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RFID Chip in Obamacare Implemented by 2014
« on: July 01, 2012, 10:39:02 AM »
From: http://starfawkesofthe21stcentury.tumblr.com/post/26284366157/rfid-chip-in-obamacare-implemented-by-2014

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For medical services will you agree for yourself and your family to be chipped like a farm animal with a RFID? Better start making up your mind now.
Sec. 2521, P. 1000 – The govt. will establish a National Medical Device Registry.

More at link.

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Re: RFID Chip in Obamacare Implemented by 2014
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2012, 10:54:11 AM »
that link doesn't work
Are WE there YET ?

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Re: RFID Chip in Obamacare Implemented by 2014
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2012, 11:05:17 AM »
WOW!  They pulled THAT fast!  They must not was Us to know...  I do remember PP1008-1012, I think it was... House Healthcare bill...

Geez.  Gotta love the web.

EDIT:  Did a search, Snopes (who has been shown to be compromised) is saying it's not true...

Seems it is indeed a hoax, though.  I am a bit nervous though.  I wouldn't be surprised if buried deeply there wasn't something that could be used to mandate chipping.
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Re: RFID Chip in Obamacare Implemented by 2014
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2012, 11:14:44 AM »
From: http://starfawkesofthe21stcentury.tumblr.com/post/26284366157/rfid-chip-in-obamacare-implemented-by-2014

More at link.

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I'm sorry but this is misinformation.... The government already has an invisible bar code chemical that uses NO CHIP to identify you, and implants are OFF THE MARKET for human uses.. the chemical code is like DMSO and is quickly absorbed by your fat cells. All they have to do is find something you much touch, - and you become "tagged by a SYNTHON".

I wrote a book on this, http://www.psychopropulseur.com/Spacepen12.html
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Re: RFID Chip in Obamacare Implemented by 2014
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2012, 11:18:52 AM »
I wrote a book on this, http://www.psychopropulseur.com/Spacepen12.html
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Bon jour, Raymond  :)

The link you provided doesn't work...Error 404.

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« Last Edit: July 01, 2012, 09:12:47 PM by zorgon »
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Re: RFID Chip in Obamacare Implemented by 2014
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2012, 11:44:19 AM »
Yes, Raymond, this is indeed misinformation.  You may note My edit on My second post.  BUT...  It's in the works, mark My words.

The original said something about having to choose healthcare + chip vs. no healthcare + no chip.  And since We know the chip is on Their agenda, this choice is VERY likely to become a reality, now that They control healthcare...

EDIT to add:  I got a 404 on Your link too.
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Re: RFID Chip in Obamacare Implemented by 2014
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2012, 07:08:44 PM »
Ok, here we go again!

I for sure don't know much about this subject, however, it doesn't take much effort to find out for sure that this is not just somebody's "pipe dream"!!! This is very much a subject that is a part of "Obamacare" - ie. "America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009".

I will post specific data I have obtained from Wiki, and I will post a link for that also. If we post the "words" here, it will be harder for them to be "just removed", as it seems other links on this subject may have been removed from the net. The Wiki page was last updated in 2011.

On the Wiki screenshots I am posting, I have highlighted "some" of the words that do relate directly to people/patients (us), as the "medical devices" are discussed or referred to. Maybe this will help us get our attention focused on this subject!

As Amaterasu said, "mark my words" ----- it sure looks like this is going to happen, unless it does get "repealed", by a new President, and Congress!!

Here is the Wiki link:

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/H.R._3200/Division_C/Title_V/Subtitle_C





« Last Edit: July 01, 2012, 07:11:07 PM by rdunk »

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Re: RFID Chip in Obamacare Implemented by 2014
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2012, 07:43:11 PM »
I think you may be over reacting as far as the document I just read.

My Father had a pacemaker. It had a serial number etc.

I have a stent, I carry a card with the serial number, lot number and placement at all times in my wallet for reference.

I believe that is all they are talking about.

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Re: RFID Chip in Obamacare Implemented by 2014
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2012, 08:21:56 PM »
I suppose one could say that this includes any device that might be "used", but there is absolutely no reason to think that "implant data chips" are not a future consideration here, in these words.

I don't really think that "pacemaker stuff" would go anywhere near what is being referred to as a need for "protecting patient privacy and proprietary information". Not much data in a pacemaker to relate to privacy. This represents Obamacare's approach to  managing "medical devices", and "patient data" seems to be very much a consideration for being a part of that.

And just where might that patient data be, if not in a medical device, such as a "chip"???

No, the way I read this, with the "Commissioner of Food and Drugs, involved, with the "head of the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology involved, as well as others, this can be very inclusive, regarding patient data.

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Re: RFID Chip in Obamacare Implemented by 2014
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2012, 09:19:32 PM »
I wrote a book on this, http://www.psychopropulseur.com/Spacepen12.html
Raymond

Fixed the link...

Wow weird front page :P

$29.95 eh :D

Of course Pegasus gets a free signed copy for the library right? :D

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Re: RFID Chip in Obamacare Implemented by 2014
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2012, 09:27:20 PM »
Great book, worth the 30 bucks...definitely!
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Re: RFID Chip in Obamacare Implemented by 2014
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2012, 09:39:19 PM »
Has anyone ever heard of a chip being inserted into new recruits in boot camp?
And if so, what years did they either do it, or start it?

It seems they would have it easy when we got our shots in the first week.

And the way those shots felt it was like they were shooting a rock into my arm, and the infection that most of us got afterwards was blamed on the "reaction to the vaccine", whatever that was.

Severe pain under the armpit, and a locked up shoulder for two days.

Sound familiar Zorgon?

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Re: RFID Chip in Obamacare Implemented by 2014
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2012, 12:17:33 AM »
Don't know about the military, but I am convinced They are chipping "po' folk" who come into emergency rooms - at one hospital in Ithaca, NY, nearly for certain.
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Re: RFID Chip in Obamacare Implemented by 2014
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2012, 06:43:52 AM »
Hey, Amy, didnt you say once they were doing it there, and tried to get you to geta  shot and you refused? or was it someone else her?

Frightening to say the least, as when we dont ask for something, and get it, it usually isnt for our own good!

We see how easy it is to chip a dog or cat, and such, humans have a much bigger body, and more spots to inject it.

I wonder also, if these chips refer info constantly, or if they are read only, where you have to be near or within a certain range to be read.

That little bump on the arm, where I got my shot in the Navy?

Had it excised years ago, and the doctor showed it to me under a microscope, and it was square and made of some sort of metal, which was scratched and shiny where the scalpel hit it. It didnt look like any device, and he said it appeared to be a piece of a nail or something I picked up during construction work.

Id have noticed that, eh?

Anyways, since that day about ten years ago, when I had Basal cell taken off my neck on that same day, my entire outlook on life has changed from negative to positive, so maybe it was something bad...who knows? I wish I had been aware of all this amazing knowledge here back then, as I would have saved the little piece, but instead he tossed it into the garbage can next to his desk with a tink!

Besides, I wouldnt want it anywhere near me now!

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Re: RFID Chip in Obamacare Implemented by 2014
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2012, 07:06:49 AM »
It was Me, and They gave Me the shot.  Was supposed to be an "IV injection," but was injected into the back of My hand.  And there is a lump there - smallish, but a lump.

So...  I am nearly certain I was chipped.
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