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Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2016, 02:54:31 PM »
I predict there will be noticeable emigration to Russia from the US and EU.  The fading western culture seems to be led by nihilists.

I doubt this very much. While our leadership is composed of horse's a**es, America is still one of the greatest countries on the planet in many other ways.
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Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2016, 08:43:12 PM »
I predict there will be noticeable emigration to Russia from the US and EU.  The fading western culture seems to be led by nihilists.

You could be on to something.
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Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2017, 05:22:35 PM »


could these two things be related?



http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-intercepts-2-russian-bombers-off-alaskas-coast/ar-BBA0zcG?li=BBnb4R7

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US intercepts 2 Russian bombers off Alaska's coast

Associated Press Associated Press5 hrs ago

WASHINGTON — The U.S. military says it intercepted two Russian bombers in international airspace off Alaska's coast.

Navy Commander Gary Ross, a Pentagon spokesman, says a pair of F-22 Raptor aircraft intercepted the Russian TU-95 Bear bombers on Monday.

Ross says the intercept was "safe and professional."

North American Aerospace Defense Command monitors air approaches to North America and defends the airspace.

Fox News said Tuesday the Russian planes flew within 100 miles (160 kilometers) of Alaska's Kodiak Island.

It said the American jets escorted the Russian bombers for 12 minutes. The bombers then flew back to eastern Russia.


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http://www.newsweek.com/tour-russias-giant-new-arctic-military-base-585759


TAKE A TOUR OF RUSSIA'S GIANT NEW ARCTIC MILITARY BASE
BY DAMIEN SHARKOV ON 4/18/17 AT 1:46 PM

Russia’s Ministry of Defense has unveiled the country’s newest Arctic military base on one of the northernmost points of its remote Franz Josef Land archipelago. Moscow has invited internet users on a virtual tour around the facility known as Arkticheskiy Trilistnik or ‘Arctic Trefoil’.

Despite its college dorm aesthetics, the base can comfortably support 150 staff for up to 18 months, establishing the mold for Russia’s post-Soviet military strategy. It is the second base of its kind since Russia unveiled a similar base on Kotelny Island  in 2015; and Russia is planning four more to follow.

The new base is a refinement of the trefoil design of three hubs, connected by  an internal quad by covered lobbies, that will likely be repeated in the planned bases at Rogachevo, Cape Schmidt, Wrangel Island and Sredniy Island. All form part of Russia’s bid to strengthen its military command and communication presence across its northernmost territories.


The new base on Franz Josef’s northern Alexandra Land has limited conventional combat capabilities and is primarily focusing on radar and surveillance. But its significance, much like its shape, is three-pronged, analysts say.


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While the virtual tour does not show any military equipment at the base, Igor Sutyagin, a  Russian military expert at London’s Royal United Services Institute, notes that its arsenal is likely to include anti-ship and anti-aircraft defenses. Its combat significance, alongside other similar bases, will be in surveilling a region that Moscow has struggled to keep an eye on.

“The problem with Russian defense is that until recently the Russian military had a huge gap in its radar coverage on its Arctic coast,” Sutyagin says, noting that Moscow had few facilities along the Northern Sea Route that spans the majority of the country’s length. “It meant that virtually everybody could enter the waters without notice. Now you need radar so you are just aware of what passes through.”

Sutyagin estimates that the base will have standard self-defense capabilities, such as Russia’s surface-to-air missile system Pantsir, for air defense, and a cruise missile battery with up to 400 kilometers in range. The size or nature of the first deployment is not yet public, though it will almost certainly contain navigation experts to operate the radar and Arctic intelligence equipment.

The ability to flag a potential threat has become more pertinent to Russia, particularly since China—which is not an Arctic power—has pushed for equal trade access to the world’s northernmost waters.

“Twice Chinese vessels have entered Russian territorial waters without permission from Russia, carrying out research but violating Russian sovereign law,” Sutyagin says. “Two years ago the Chinese navy sent marines on an exercise at the Bering Strait,” he adds, referring to a 2015 incident that concerned the U.S. but also Russia.

Since then, Russia has upgraded its ability to spot incoming vessels, which can then call a conventional force of Arctic-trained paratroopers or marines to the fore. Such units can be deployed quickly even from a distance.

Backing Arctic Claims
Russia is one of five countries with claims over the North Pole and the resources in it. The radar bases represent a permanent presence in its most remote areas that raises the stakes for anyone else willing to claim access to disputed waters.

“This is definitely a kind of posturing but we cannot mark it down as unfounded posturing,” Sim Tack, military analyst at Stratfor, says. “It is part of a very distinct strategy that Russia establishes a permanent presence in region to back territorial claims. It would not mean much as a development otherwise. Even if the base’s functions are limited to monitoring the fact that forces will be able to be present on the ground for an extended period of time, even in the case of supplies being interrupted, is significant.”

According to Sutyagin, radar bases are links in a newly forged Russian chain of defense in the Arctic that Moscow hopes will involve other facilities such as an airfield nearby that can host more serious and more mobile firepower, albeit not permanently.

“That is serious argument potentially with other smaller nations for instance Denmark which is preparing a claim on the north pole via Greenland,” Sutyagin says. “Russia will construct Arctic airfield less than 200 kilometers [124 miles] from the North Pole, also on Franz Josef Land, where it can deploy bombers if needed. If Denmark makes a bolder move for the North Pole, Russia can say ‘Do you have real capability to control territories where we have permanent presence?’”

A Psychological Boost
The Defense Ministry and the Kremlin’s frequent announcements of Arctic strategy—including the decision to showcase the newest base through a virtual tour—tells us something significant. The message to the Russian public is to reassure them that them that Russian capabilities are nearing the status that the Soviet Union once enjoyed in the High North.


Why Russia Is Way Ahead in Race to Control the Arctic
“To a very large extent this announcement is for PR,” Sutyagin says, adding that the government hopes to rally the patriotic spirit of military prowess with such announcements.

“They do not see this as a new claim [over the Arctic]” he says. “Rather they want to restore the Soviet sphere of influence which includes the famous Soviet Arctic triangle, spanning from the Kola peninsula to Kamchatka,” he says.

The line between the two places spans Russia’s northernmost ports, which had Arctic expertise during Soviet times though many facilities among them fell into disrepair after the end of the Cold War. Since 2014, Russian armed forces have sought to recover some of the prestige of Arctic operations, forming the Arctic military command, in the northwest. The increased visibility of these Arctic units seems to be part of a deliberate strategy to boost Russian public pride in the military at a time of economic hardship.

“Of course,” he says, “the government wants people to see it and think ‘we are so strong, so forget about your empty fridge.’”


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Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2017, 06:59:13 PM »
I'd go for NK, mainly because its controlled by a dumbass.
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Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2017, 07:06:12 PM »
This sabre rattling with Russia has been going on since the Cold War and will continue.  Posturing, 2 powers flexing their muscles.  When I was in Europe during the Cold War, this happened all the time.  The Arctic Base has been there for quite some time.
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Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2017, 07:09:27 PM »
Exactly, plus they don't have the fat kid ruling the country.  ::)
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Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2017, 07:15:01 PM »


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_stations_in_the_Arctic

Many research stations there....to include Russian ones.
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Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2017, 04:07:33 AM »
You guys ought to read Living Moon sometime :P

Especially about the airstrip the CIA bought INSIDE Russia  :P

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Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2017, 05:23:02 AM »
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3360129/russia-wipe-out-us-navy-electronic-bomb/

In this topic, it is difficult to separate fact from fiction. Russia has claimed some new jamming capability based on different physical principles (Sputnik).  There was a rumor that all US aircraft carriers have to outfitted with fiber optics to prevent this jamming from getting thru.  Also, the US is flying F-22's over ISIS in Syria and complaining that Russian radar is "painting them".

This could be an enormous mistake in that it gives Russia a ready opportunity to practice and experiment on tracking stealth aircraft.

Oh, and there is word that some Jews are considering moving back to Russia from Israel because of social problems in Israeli culture.  The reverse emigration might be starting.

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Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2017, 08:48:12 AM »
You guys ought to read Living Moon sometime :P

Especially about the airstrip the CIA bought INSIDE Russia  :P

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Can you post a link to get me to the right place in the vast warehouse of Pegasus?

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Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2017, 11:59:06 AM »
From My own Looky Loos over time I'm pretty glad the Earth's Police Force has come back from the dead!

If I recall correctly we used to have a member here who said China is Great..YET he had to use a VPN to say it to debunk another member LOL

I'm not sure if we have ever had a content Russian Member as memory fail's me, but I do think we had a member called Sarkozy at some point.  He/She didn't seem content.

At some point, we have to look to what our freedom has produced and be proud of it rather than knock it down!

North Korea Just Celebrated 101 years of Family Ownership and threatened "to use Pre-emptive Nuclear Strikes if they were Attacked" Yeah makes no sense!

The Western World which has provided the Earth all of the great things we know and love sure has it's problems.. but they dont compare to the crudhole's that deserve some Mil Might!

If what was posted here on the living moon was posted in other country's we would be Dead. But then again other country's don't have orbital weapon's and a secret space program LOL

 






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Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2017, 12:23:34 PM »
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3360129/russia-wipe-out-us-navy-electronic-bomb/

In this topic, it is difficult to separate fact from fiction. Russia has claimed some new jamming capability based on different physical principles (Sputnik).  There was a rumor that all US aircraft carriers have to outfitted with fiber optics to prevent this jamming from getting thru.  Also, the US is flying F-22's over ISIS in Syria and complaining that Russian radar is "painting them".
rumors are just that; rumors.  ::)

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This could be an enormous mistake in that it gives Russia a ready opportunity to practice and experiment on tracking stealth aircraft.
Nothing different than any other event for the last 70 years

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Oh, and there is word that some Jews are considering moving back to Russia from Israel because of social problems in Israeli culture.  The reverse emigration might be starting.

Since you are always downing and trashing the United States and predicting it's downfall, not to mention you are always praising Russia and China, why don't you join them

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Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2017, 01:23:19 PM »
If I recall correctly we used to have a member here who said China is Great..YET he had to use a VPN to say it to debunk another member LOL

Yes  and that person also said that Pegasus was BANNED in China because we support Tibet :P

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I'm not sure if we have ever had a content Russian Member as memory fail's me, but I do think we had a member called Sarkozy at some point.  He/She didn't seem content.

Yes Sarkozy was the only known Russian we had here :D  He didn't seem discontented so much but did tell us the things we thought Russia had ... they didn't :P

Freedom is an awkward thing  to much of it and you get what is happening in the US right now  Utter chaos :P

There was one fellow from ATS who had a friend in Russia...  He took some photos of an abandoned ICBM site  the one that was blacked out on Google Earth...

Seems a LOT of stuff in Russia is just abandoned. These dang mobile launchers are still LOADED  yet just abandoned and anyone can walk in



http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/Russian_Bases_ICBM_Site_Chukotka.html

Not sure why so many people here are upset with Russia  They mean us no harm :P


At some point, we have to look to what our freedom has produced and be proud of it rather than knock it down!

North Korea Just Celebrated 101 years of Family Ownership and threatened "to use Pre-emptive Nuclear Strikes if they were Attacked" Yeah makes no sense!

The Western World which has provided the Earth all of the great things we know and love sure has it's problems.. but they dont compare to the crudhole's that deserve some Mil Might!

If what was posted here on the living moon was posted in other country's we would be Dead. But then again other country's don't have orbital weapon's and a secret space program LOL
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Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2017, 02:10:35 PM »


yeah i know a lot of countries have research stations in the artic..  this was just a new one
and the planes  are still at it...might be sabre rattling or just a PR stunt to keep them visible
or maybe they have some new tech to check things out here and they are testing it with the ship and planes


but more articles today on the same thing so who knows





http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russias-military-buildup-in-arctic-puts-us-on-alert/ar-BBA1SoC?li=BBnbcA1
Russia's military buildup in Arctic puts U.S. on alert
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© Provided by CBS Interactive Inc. Russia's Arctic military base on Alexandra Land of the Franz Joseph Land archipelago

Russian President Vladimir Putin has never been one to pass up a photo-up, and his latest candids come from the icy Arctic. He was photographed in March pensively walking among glaciers, reports CBS News’ Jonathan Vigliotti.

The Kremlin has also previously released video of reindeer-riding Russian soldiers. It’s all part of the unveiling of the country’s crown jewel: Russia’s sprawling Trefoil military base, located just outside the Arctic Circle. It can house 150 troops and warplanes.

While parts of the base remain top secret, the military offered up a virtual tour of the building's interior. The PR rollout comes as Moscow moves to lay claim to the region’s huge oil and gas reserves believed to be worth as much as $35 trillion.

Russia, the United States, Canada, Denmark and Norway have all been trying to assert jurisdiction over parts of the Arctic. Legally it’s still unclear who can lay stake to the territory, but the Kremlin knows how persuasive a good show of force can be.

“We all stand to make money in the Arctic, but of course this will all grind to a halt if we see a new arms race instead,” former Defense Department policy analyst Robert English said.

While the U.S. has a military presence in the Arctic, including airfields and infantry bases, there is concern in Washington that Russia has pushed in recent years to expand its own military capabilities there, its most significant buildup in the region since the end of the Cold War. Defense Secretary James Mattis addressed the issue during his confirmation hearings. “The U.S. must ensure that Russia doesn’t expand those efforts to dominate the region,” Mattis said.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/russian-bombers-again-fly-near-alaska/ar-BBA2YyS

Russian bombers again fly near Alaska
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1 hr ago

For the second consecutive night, Russia flew two long-range bombers off the coast of Alaska on Tuesday, this time coming within 36 miles of the mainland while flying north of the Aleutian Islands, two U.S. officials told Fox News.

The two nuclear-capable Tu-95H bombers were spotted by U.S. military radar at 5 p.m. local time.

Unlike a similar incident Monday night, this time the U.S. Air Force did not scramble any fighter jets.

Instead, it launched a single E-3 Sentry early warning aircraft, known as AWACS, to make sure there were only the two Russian bombers flying near Alaska, and not other aircraft flying underneath the large bombers.

U.S. territorial waters extend 12 nautical miles from shore.

Two Russian bombers flew within 100 miles of Alaska on Monday night.

The Russian bombers took off from an airbase in Petropavlovsk, Russia and returned five hours later to an airbase in Anadyr. Both locations are in eastern Russia, some 1,000 miles away.

Last week in Moscow, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said U.S.-Russian relations were at a “low point” during a news conference with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

While Tillerson was in Moscow, a trio of Russian bombers flew near the east coast of Japan, forcing the Japanese military to scramble 14 fighter jets at various times to intercept the bombers. A Russian spy plane traversed Japan’s west coast.

Before Monday's flight near Alaska, the last time Russian bombers flew near the U.S. was July 4, 2015, when a pair of Russian bombers flew off the coasts of Alaska and California, coming as close as 40 miles to Mendocino, Calif.

Russian President Vladimir Putin called then-President Barack Obama to wish him a happy Independence Day while the bombers cruised the California coastline.

In February, a Russian spy ship sailed up and down the East Coast of the U.S. while remaining in international waters.

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Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
« Reply #44 on: April 19, 2017, 03:11:48 PM »
I'm not worried, I've got the Blue Angels practicing over my house.

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