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Offline petrus4

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Beyond Greed and Scarcity by Bernard Lietaer
« on: December 16, 2014, 07:21:25 PM »
http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/money-print-your-own/beyond-greed-and-scarcity

A number of people really need to read this.  It is an interview with the man who apparently designed the Euro, and he is saying exactly what Amy and I have been saying.  Namely, that monetary scarcity is the problem, not resource scarcity; and said money scarcity exists purely in order to satisfy the need of some (not all) people for elitism.  It's interesting that I'm finding this immediately after looking up more info on our Lyran Giant friends, because this ties in with them.
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Re: Beyond Greed and Scarcity by Bernard Lietaer
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2015, 05:23:57 PM »
Not sure how I missed this, petrus.  Thank You for bringing it here!

Yes, the abundance of this planet is impeded in its flow to all of Us by the system of accounting for Our energy input.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

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Re: Beyond Greed and Scarcity by Bernard Lietaer
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2015, 05:22:24 AM »
It is an interview with the man who apparently designed the Euro, and he is saying exactly what Amy and I have been saying.
He didn't design the Euro, I think he was the responsible for the change to Euros in Belgium.

But it's a very interesting read, thanks for that.  :)

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Re: Beyond Greed and Scarcity by Bernard Lietaer
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2015, 10:16:11 AM »
I enjoyed the article. I am not sure how to feel about this.

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Significantly, we have witnessed in the past decades a clear re-awakening of the feminine archetype. It is reflected not only in the women's movement, in the dramatic increase in ecological concerns, or in new epistemologies reintegrating spirit and matter, but also in the technologies that enable us to replace hierarchies with networks (such as the Internet).

We have a complete lack of respect for stay at home Moms, because of the way it all works many Mothers who actually would like to take care of their own kids work for $$ and pay someone else to Mother their children. I know one such person who just got tired of the "Oh you don't work then?' Plus the lack of respect in the relationship when their check stopped coming in.

Children do not look up to the Grandmother figure unless she sports tattoos and wears mini skirts. I don't know any grown children who value the advice and show respect for their Mother or Father in the way that once was.

The "Womens Movement" seems to have run off track and is not getting any respect for where they are leading.

I don't see an increase in ecological concerns to me it seems as a society and a world we are caring less and less for our home.
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Re: Beyond Greed and Scarcity by Bernard Lietaer
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2015, 11:27:35 AM »
I've known the answer since I was a child.

The solution was quite accurately depicted in 'Robin Hood'.

Any pre-schooler could offer the solution to inequality.

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Honestly, this world sucks ass.
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Re: Beyond Greed and Scarcity by Bernard Lietaer
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2015, 12:40:46 PM »
I disagree, Sinny.  "Robbing" anyOne is unEthical.  Making money moot is not "robbing" anyOne, but allowing the abundance of the planet to flow to ALL, rich now or poor, such that We ALL are "rich."

And merely robbing Some for now does NOT solve for psychopaths in control.

"Money is the great unequalizer."
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

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Re: Beyond Greed and Scarcity by Bernard Lietaer
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2015, 01:16:59 PM »
There is an old saying...

A FOOL AND HIS MONEY ARE SOON PARTED

The reason that 5% have all the money is because 95% are FOOLS  (not counting those who don't really care about money :P )

So what is the SOLUTION? 

STOP BEING A FOOL

I will do a thread soon on how to help people stop being fools :D  (I need a refresher course myself :P )  My 'sin' is procrastination, something I tend do do a lot when I have enough cash to get by...  and only motivate when the supply runs low

 


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