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Offline Ellirium113

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Humans need not apply
« on: September 12, 2014, 07:14:39 AM »
Excellent video on the effects of automation throughout history and what is in store for us in the future.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU[/youtube]

One thing the video did NOT mention was the inception of the robotic companions. While these types of droids are still in their infancy it is also another factor that needs to be taken into consideration.


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Re: Humans need not apply
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2014, 07:55:44 AM »
I liked the part when the video asked if my job involved sitting in front of a computer typing - and if that's what I was supposed to be doing whilst watching this vid  :o  ;D  ::)

Looks like we are all going to have to figure out what we can offer the world that a robot cannot not :-\

I'd mention that women will always have an age old industry they could fall back on ( :-X ) but the Japs seem happy enough with Robots for THAT too  :o  ::) ahaha.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2014, 08:00:03 AM by Sinny »
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Re: Humans need not apply
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2014, 12:33:22 PM »
Or...  We can eliminate the need to add Our energy to survive.  Eliminate the need for a job, any job, to get accounting tokens to pay the bills.  What We do better is imagine and create with love.
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2014, 03:55:30 PM »
Or...  We can eliminate the need to add Our energy to survive.  Eliminate the need for a job, any job, to get accounting tokens to pay the bills.  What We do better is imagine and create with love.

That works great in make-believe-world...We live in the real world where greedy fat cats don't care if your on the street begging for food so long as they can buy the latest greatest Mercedes.

When our jobs are lost due to automation but the rule book for living has not changed along with it IS THE ISSUE. If you have any sort of creative skills you might still have a chance. If you are allowed to grow your own food and actually able to maintain gardens etc. you have a chance. The rest of us are going to be in an unemployment line.

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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2014, 04:00:05 PM »
Not so.  We can choose to do things better and without money.  But it will only work if there is global dialog on the ideas.

And I guess all great solutions were "make-believe" at one time or another.  Point is, adding free energy will take the power away from those "greedy fat cats" and remove greed, which is a function of scarcity.  (Define "greed" when ALL may have as much as They want.)
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2014, 04:56:27 PM »
Not so.  We can choose to do things better and without money.  But it will only work if there is global dialog on the ideas.

And I guess all great solutions were "make-believe" at one time or another.  Point is, adding free energy will take the power away from those "greedy fat cats" and remove greed, which is a function of scarcity.  (Define "greed" when ALL may have as much as They want.)

Either way we would be getting replaced by robots... Free energy leads to automated processes to lessen labor input does it not? So in essence if you take out the greed equation completely and the same is going to hold true...at some point we will be looking at automated replacement only not for sake of profit. This would be more of a self generating ideal of having abundance with next to no labor input.

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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2014, 06:18:41 PM »
Once the elite have perfected robots to act like real people and are able to mass produce them in automated factories, it is a sure bet that their first priority is to EXTERMINATE every man, woman and child that does not serve THEIR needs. They keep us wage slaves around because we are useful to them for now.
The elite are total PSYCHOPATHS.
My suggestion is to create a holographic reality that fulfills YOUR needs and escape into it ASAP. This could be done by mental occult practices such as astral projection or meditation. But you must really want to leave this plane of existence and are prepared to leave your loved ones behind and also there is a possibility that your body would remain behind and live out it's life on auto-pilot, pretending to be YOU. Once you leave this world there is no coming back. Make your choice wisely.

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Re: Humans need not apply
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2014, 06:24:51 PM »
Either way we would be getting replaced by robots... Free energy leads to automated processes to lessen labor input does it not? So in essence if you take out the greed equation completely and the same is going to hold true...at some point we will be looking at automated replacement only not for sake of profit. This would be more of a self generating ideal of having abundance with next to no labor input.

It would not "replace" Us in any job We love to do.  No need for robots in any need We have enough People who want to do the job.  No forcing People to do things; no forcing People to NOT do things.

Yes, the basics (food, water, shelter, clothing) will be available freely.  So will the tools We need - hammers and saws for Those who love to build.  Paint and brushes for the artist.  Transportation and digging tools for Those who love archaeology.  Pots, pans, stoves and ingredients for Those who love to cook.  A key is replacing the slave's work "ethic" with the Betterment Ethic - the ethic of free Humans.

It is not "ideal."  But it IS a hell of a lot better than what We have now.
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Re: Humans need not apply
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2014, 11:25:32 PM »
Here is a interesting video about Robotoids.
Some people you have met could be one of them...LOL

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Re: Humans need not apply
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2014, 05:03:46 AM »
Here is a interesting video about Robotoids.
Some people you have met could be one of them...LOL


Beters Transcripts are the most informed source besides this video :)
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2014, 11:34:19 AM »
The Phoenix Journals had some articles about robotoids and Russian Cosmospheres ( ufo's  developed in Russia to attack enemy spacecraft ) ..most of this information probably came from Dr. Beters.

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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2014, 01:17:25 AM »
The Phoenix Journals had some articles about robotoids and Russian Cosmospheres ( ufo's  developed in Russia to attack enemy spacecraft ) ..most of this information probably came from Dr. Beters.

It did lol.

I stand by his material almost 100%, everything that could be verified, was verified... Now it's up to us to pick up where he left off..

As a side note I find the Journals to be of interest, although they were heavily involved with spooks and the New Age Circuit, I discovered little bread crumbs of independant truth scattered within - makes one wonder...
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Re: Humans need not apply
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2015, 06:40:02 PM »
DARPA's new tech lets robots learn from YouTube videos

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Things would be a lot easier for roboticists if their creations can learn from any instructional video they watch without further programming. While we're still far from teaching robots complicated skills using just a playlist of YouTube clips, a University of Maryland research team is in the very early stages of making that happen. The team's research is funded by DARPA's Mathematics of Sensing, Exploitation and Execution (MSEE) program, which aims to teach machines not only how to collect data, but also how to act on it. For this particular study, the researchers have developed a system that allowed their test robots to learn from a series of "how-to" cooking videos on YouTube. During testing, the robots were able to perform the tasks shown in the videos using the right utensils and with zero human input.

In addition, the system gives robots the ability to store whatever they've learned from the videos and to build on the knowledge to become better at handing certain tools or performing certain tasks. DARPA believes the robots could eventually learn a lot faster at a fraction of what it currently costs due to this research, especially since it could also allow them to share their knowledge with other machines. We just hope they don't end up becoming sentient and colluding against us. Want to know more? If you don't mind sifting through a document filled with scientific lingo, feel free to pore over University of Maryland's paper for more info.

http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/30/darpa-robot-videos/

http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~yzyang/paper/YouCookMani_CameraReady.pdf

Uh oh...it just watched cartoons for the last week.  :P

 


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