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Offline onetruekeeper

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Speed of Light...Infinite or Finite?
« on: July 29, 2014, 11:55:01 AM »
Here is something to make your noodle squirm.
Is the speed of light infinite or finite?  Let's suppose the universe is finite in size and I have a light bulb that can illuminate the whole of it.  When I flip the switch, is the whole universe lit up at once or is the light going to take trillions of years to reach the ends of it?
We all know that physicists are measuring the speed of light all the time and we even have a exact speed of how fast light is. But suppose light speed is infinite and the light detectors the physicists are using is giving the impression that light takes time to travel through space but in reality it is not the light that is taking time but the detectors themselves that are taking time to respond to the presence of light. But some would argue that if you placed the detector further away from the light source, it would take longer for the light to reach the detector for it to react. True..that could be one possible explanation but another could be that when a light detector is place further away from the light source, it will respond later than the one closer to it because that is the way nature has set it up and it does not mean that light has a finite speed. Perhaps one way to test this theory is to construct several light detectors with different light sensitive materials. Each detector will be placed at the same distance from the light source and will be used to determine the speed of light. If all the detectors show the same results then the speed of light is most likely finite. But if the detectors show variations in the speed of light then it could mean that the speed of light was infinite and it was the detectors themselves that took time to respond to the light. What do you think?

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Re: Speed of Light...Infinite or Finite?
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2014, 12:21:11 PM »
well it doesnt light up all at once.i had this argument in the seventh grade with my electronics teacher.but the moon laser proved me right.if some one makes a component read what one wants it to read then thats cheating.we dont cheat here.
i may sound like i coming off harsh but im not.we are kinda disciplined in our arts here ,so it shows sometimes.t :)

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Re: Speed of Light...Infinite or Finite?
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2014, 12:31:06 PM »
for what its worth, light doesnt travel at all, it occurs as a result of field interactions.
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Re: Speed of Light...Infinite or Finite?
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2014, 12:34:59 PM »
the wave travels?
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Re: Speed of Light...Infinite or Finite?
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2014, 12:43:53 PM »
I hope some physics department would try out the suggestions I made and published the results. I am curious myself.

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Re: Speed of Light...Infinite or Finite?
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2014, 12:45:36 PM »
Pretty sure light speed is finite as you can bounce lazers off distant objects (Moon) and record the time it takes for the return of that light.  That has nothing to do with the sensors being slow, but rather the distance being traveled.
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Re: Speed of Light...Infinite or Finite?
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2014, 12:55:28 PM »
Pretty sure light speed is finite as you can bounce lazers off distant objects (Moon) and record the time it takes for the return of that light.  That has nothing to do with the sensors being slow, but rather the distance being traveled.
But we are coming back to the issue of the detectors again because we still have to rely on them to take the measurements.

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Re: Speed of Light...Infinite or Finite?
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2014, 01:02:04 PM »
its called a telescope and your eyes.the reflector is still up there.it hasnt moved .yet,high zorgon. 8)
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Re: Speed of Light...Infinite or Finite?
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2014, 01:08:03 PM »
I think you're attempting to prove a negative.  If you're not accepting detection methods as accurate, then you can never measure anything.  Your speculation remains speculation because nothing can prove your theory.
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Re: Speed of Light...Infinite or Finite?
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2014, 01:12:29 PM »
its called a telescope and your eyes.the reflector is still up there.it hasnt moved .yet,high zorgon. 8)
I am sure you are aware that even our eyes and the brain needs time to process the light signals. So we are not really seeings things as they happen but as they happened.

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Re: Speed of Light...Infinite or Finite?
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2014, 01:18:58 PM »
I think you're attempting to prove a negative.  If you're not accepting detection methods as accurate, then you can never measure anything.  Your speculation remains speculation because nothing can prove your theory.
I am not saying detection methods are inaccurate or unacceptable, what I am saying is that science has not provided absolute evidence that light has finite speed and that other paradigms could be just as valid.

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Re: Speed of Light...Infinite or Finite?
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2014, 01:27:19 PM »
yes but science is a foundation on which to build upon.if we started using any old rock on the great pyramid.the whole thing on the ground.were the guys that double check all angles on block before setting it.im not saying your wrong.i havent done the test myself and if you were right then it would destoy years of validation in other fields too.so i say your theory is on shaky ground at best.
more details on your own reason for believing your idea would be helpful.
remember,we are the guys who outed john hutchinsons latest invention as a fraud.
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Re: Speed of Light...Infinite or Finite?
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2014, 01:42:00 PM »
Oh? How did you guys prove he was a fraud? That's news to me.

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Re: Speed of Light...Infinite or Finite?
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2014, 01:42:22 PM »
There was an Interesting German Scientist known as  Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Wolfgang_von_Goethe



Goethe's Theory of Colours, Part 1



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What is/or the nature of the speed of Light, with in a "1st Person Video/Computer Game" ?   :)

Re. "The Holographic Universe"; If what we experience is a "1st Person game" of LIFE,
then perhaps the human Primates interpretation of the nature of Light, may in fact be misunderstood ?

The universe may in fact be a very, very, small "Holograph" displayed in our Visual Cortex of the brain
linked to a Computer system Not unlike that of a "Mainframe" ?

All our processes even within the brain, involves Form (Geometric Form) and the experience of form
in a variety of different forms.

a.    Sight
b.    Sound
c.    Touch
d.    Smell
e.    Taste
f.     Thought
g.    Emotions
etc. etc.
are all different functions of experiencing Geometric form ! (Image of a Universe and its Contents)

All (this universe) may be nothing more, than a Highly Sophisticated Computer Program or the result
of the playing of Software taking place in what some of the Ancients referred to as "The Place of LIFE",
in itself a Non Dimensional "Environment".

IF this is the case then our Interpretation of Light may in fact be misplaced or misinterpreted ?

Just maybe, LIGHT does NOT in fact involve Velocity and it is ONLY the human interpretation
involving the apparent or Interpreted "Rate of change" taking place in "The NOW" ?
« Last Edit: July 29, 2014, 01:51:56 PM by The Matrix Traveller »

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Re: Speed of Light...Infinite or Finite?
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2014, 01:47:03 PM »
the search button in top right,just type in john hutchinson.it broke my heart too,as i was a jh fan.sometimes the truth hurts,when playing chess with the gods.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2014, 01:51:16 PM by robomont »
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