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Re: Monsanto acquires rights to the Sun
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2014, 07:41:41 PM »

i had to look it up..no further comment...sigh :(




Lumpenproletariat  From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Lumpenproletariat is a term that was originally coined by Karl Marx to describe that layer of the working class that is unlikely ever to achieve class consciousness and is therefore lost to socially useful production, of no use to the revolutionary struggle, and perhaps even an impediment to the realization of a classless society.[1] T

he word is derived from the German word Lumpenproletarier, a word literally meaning "miscreant" as well as "rag". The term proletarian was first defined by Marx and Friedrich Engels in The German Ideology (1845) and later elaborated on in other works by Marx. The Marxist Internet Archive writes that " this term identifies the class of outcast, degenerated and submerged elements that make up a section of the population of industrial centers" which include "beggars, prostitutes, gangsters, racketeers, swindlers, petty criminals, tramps, chronic unemployed or unemployables, persons who have been cast out by industry, and all sorts of declassed, degraded or degenerated elements."[2]

In The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Napoleon (1852), Marx gives this description of the lumpenproletariat:

Alongside decayed roués with dubious means of subsistence and of dubious origin, alongside ruined and adventurous offshoots of the bourgeoisie, were vagabonds, discharged soldiers, discharged jailbirds, escaped galley slaves, swindlers, mountebanks, lazzaroni, pickpockets, tricksters, gamblers, maquereaux [pimps], brothel keepers, porters, literati, organ grinders, ragpickers, knife grinders, tinkers, beggars — in short, the whole indefinite, disintegrated mass, thrown hither and thither, which the French call la bohème.[3]

In the Eighteenth Brumaire, Marx rhetorically describes the lumpenproletariat as a "class fraction" that constituted the political power base for Louis Bonaparte of France in 1848. In this sense, Marx argued that Bonaparte was able to place himself above the two main classes, the proletariat and bourgeoisie, by resorting to the "lumpenproletariat" as an apparently independent base of power, while in fact advancing the material interests of the "finance aristocracy".

For rhetorical purposes, Marx identifies Louis Napoleon himself as being like a member of the lumpenproletariat insofar as, being a member of the finance aristocracy, he has no direct interest in productive enterprises.[4] This is a rhetorical flourish, however, which equates the lumpenproletariat, the rentier class, and the apex of class society as equivalent members of the class of those with no role in useful production.[citation needed]


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Re: Monsanto acquires rights to the Sun
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2014, 07:44:05 PM »
Way too deep for me. ;D
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Re: Monsanto acquires rights to the Sun
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2014, 07:48:32 PM »
We thought we had a winner here, to be sure.   


i will resort to one of the fine  comments my darling father would make  when one of us kids thought we knew something


so & so  thought he had to fart ..he shi t  himself


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Re: Monsanto acquires rights to the Sun
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2014, 08:08:05 PM »
SpaceMaverick may find himself inundated by skyclad pagans wanting to correct his thinking.   We take grandmothe moon and hrr cycles pretty seriously.

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Re: Monsanto acquires rights to the Sun
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2014, 05:43:27 AM »
Greetings:

Is it true that We stand accused by (gasp!) the lumpenproletariat   ;)  of intentional disinformation techniques?   :P

We thought we had a winner here, to be sure.    ;D
Too many words, please just answer this simple question:
were you fooled by it or were you trying to fool other people?
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Re: Monsanto acquires rights to the Sun
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2014, 05:50:24 AM »
IMHO, as the author is a writer par excellence,

IMHO, the author completely discredited himself.  He has nothing but shame.  Completely unable to make an arguement against Monsanto with truth and intellect, he wallows in the gutter of lies and deceit to fabricate a story to sway opinion aganst Monsanto for something Monsanto never did.  We think that story is childish and a waste of reading time.  Psy-ops from the anti-corp who should have been above that.  There's enough truth and facts out there to make an honest arguement.  But no.  The author had neither the truth or intellect to make an honest arguement.


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Re: Monsanto acquires rights to the Sun
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2014, 06:02:39 AM »


Lumpenproletariat  From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Lumpenproletariat is a term that was originally coined by Karl Marx to describe that layer of the working class that is unlikely ever to achieve class consciousness and is therefore lost to socially useful production,

...This is a rhetorical flourish, however, which equates the lumpenproletariat, the rentier class, and the apex of class society as equivalent members of the class of those with no role in useful production.[citation needed]

LULZ!  So Marx, who used the word to disparage a "class" of people, essentially put himself into the same class by using it.    Karma, baby!
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Re: Monsanto acquires rights to the Sun
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2014, 09:33:45 AM »
Too many words, please just answer this simple question:
were you fooled by it or were you trying to fool other people?
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Re: Monsanto acquires rights to the Sun
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2014, 05:17:58 PM »
SpaceMaverick may find himself inundated by skyclad pagans wanting to correct his thinking.   We take grandmothe moon and hrr cycles pretty seriously.

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hehehehehe, Bring it on.....    ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D
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Re: Monsanto acquires rights to the Sun
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2014, 05:10:36 AM »
You do realize that men are pagans too, right?  And that many of us dames have been practicing the craft since the 1970's?  Just want to be sure you have the cirrect visual.  Lol.

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