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Fukushima Affect on Northern Hemisphere and US West Coast
« on: January 03, 2014, 03:29:35 PM »
This article is from Intellihub and I didn't realize how much more widespread the problems was with regards to wildlife.  Since we have a number of our folks on the West Coast to include Canada and also Alaska in the Northwest, I thought I would start a thread just for these areas and the possible issues that are arising from Fukushima.

http://intellihub.com/2013/12/30/is-fukushima-decimating-wildlife-in-the-western-portion-of-north-america/

"Radiation? Seals, Sea Lions, Polar Bears, Bald Eagles, Sea Stars, Turtles, King and Sockeye Salmon, Herring, Anchovies and Sardines In The Western Part of North America All Suffering Mysterious Diseases At the Same Time" from Intellihub...

Bald Eagles have been the latest species added to the list.  Is it radiation or some other malady?  I am not an expert in this field but it sure makes a person wonder.  Is it radiation in the air?  Is it radiation through the food chain for the wildlife?  The timing sure is suspicious.

Or perhaps something else?

https://www.seafoodsource.com/en/news/supply-trade/25101-china-bans-us-west-coast-shellfish-imports

China has closed its doors to all imports of West coast shellfish. Chinese officials tested samples of geoduck clams and found elevated levels of arsenic and a toxin that causes Paralytic Shellfish Poisoning.  But this is only shellfish....
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Re: Fukushima Affect on Northern Hemisphere and US West Coast
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2014, 03:51:15 PM »
Global Research

Fukushima Radiation: Japan Irradiates the West Coast of North America

http://www.globalresearch.ca/fukushima-radiation-japan-irradiates-the-west-coast-of-north-america/5305310

Fukushima: Diseased Seals in Alaska tested for Radiation

http://www.globalresearch.ca/fukushima-diseased-seals-in-alaska-tested-for-radiation/28392

Fukushima: Radioactivity Flowing into the Ocean will Shift towards West Coast of North America, Unpredictable Consequences

http://www.globalresearch.ca/fukushima-radioactivity-flowing-into-the-ocean-will-shift-towards-west-coast-of-north-america-unpredictable-consequences/5362535



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Re: Fukushima Affect on Northern Hemisphere and US West Coast
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2014, 04:30:54 PM »
Bald Eagles have been the latest species added to the list.  Is it radiation or some other malady?  I am not an expert in this field but it sure makes a person wonder.  Is it radiation in the air?  Is it radiation through the food chain for the wildlife?  The timing sure is suspicious.

Or perhaps something else?
The symptoms make me think of something else, as I don't think slow radiation poisoning would have those results, this looks more like chemical poisoning or something like it, but I am even less of a specialist in this than in other subjects. :)

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Re: Fukushima Affect on Northern Hemisphere and US West Coast
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2014, 04:54:13 PM »
There may be different causes each type of species, but the curious thing that has my mind going is that all this happening almost like the dominoe theory.  That's why I used the word "possible" Fukushima issue.  I wish I had more education in this area.
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Re: Fukushima Affect on Northern Hemisphere and US West Coast
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2014, 06:35:10 PM »
Looks like Seals, Sea Lions, Polar Bears, Bald Eagles, Sea Stars, Turtles, King Crab, Sockeye Salmon, Herring, Anchovies and Sardines will have to be added to the banned in China list. I'll talk to the boss.  8)
 
I would think it is a food chain thingy. That is what got to the Eagles the last time with DDT. It takes awhile to build up but once it reaches the tipping point they all die.
 
I am waiting to see if all the Pacific whales start dieing off. They eat the smallest of creatures, the ones that get infected first by anything.
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ps. I wouldn't put it past anyone to also use FUKU as a back ground story to dump their own crap out there and blame it on Fuku. We do live in a sick world.

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Re: Fukushima Affect on Northern Hemisphere and US West Coast
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2014, 05:40:38 AM »
ps. I wouldn't put it past anyone to also use FUKU as a back ground story to dump their own crap out there and blame it on Fuku. We do live in a sick world.
I think that's more likely, as this type of symptoms look more like chemical poisoning than radiation effects, and, as far as I know, the amount of chemicals released by Fukushima is not the problem.

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Re: Fukushima Affect on Northern Hemisphere and US West Coast
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2014, 08:30:12 AM »
I'm inclined to agree with the food chain issue where a build up of certain substances might be an issue, but the issue of all these different species be affected still makes me suspicious.  Coincidence per chance?  I don't know.  There is also the added observation of sea creatures that normally stay further out and deeper in the ocean showing up more often along the shores on the West Coast.  Things that make you go hmmmmm.
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Re: Fukushima Affect on Northern Hemisphere and US West Coast
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2014, 08:37:43 AM »
I'm inclined to agree with the food chain issue where a build up of certain substances might be an issue, but the issue of all these different species be affected still makes me suspicious.  Coincidence per chance?
I believe in coincidences, but I don't think that's the case, as those species share the (or are part of each other's) food chain.

If I'm not mistaken, one of the things that pass through all the food chain is heavy metals like mercury, but those do not give those symptoms.

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Re: Fukushima Affect on Northern Hemisphere and US West Coast
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2014, 09:17:19 AM »
I believe in coincidences, but I don't think that's the case, as those species share the (or are part of each other's) food chain.

If I'm not mistaken, one of the things that pass through all the food chain is heavy metals like mercury, but those do not give those symptoms.

I can agree with that.  It is a shame for what we have allowed in our environment.  I didn't use to care but became for aware to a large extent when Fukushima took place.  Sad it took me that long to realize the problems we are facing.
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Re: Fukushima Affect on Northern Hemisphere and US West Coast
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2014, 01:12:12 PM »
Look out West Coast...here comes another wave of radiation fallout?

http://www.turnerradionetwork.com/news/146-mjt

From the Turner Network Radio site:

NEWS FLASH - URGENT - December 28, 2013  11:00 PM EST -- (TRN http://www.TurnerRadioNetwork.com ) -- Persons residing on  the west coast of North America should IMMEDIATELY begin preparing for another possible onslaught of dangerous atmospheric radiation from the Fukushima nuclear disaster site in Japan.  The Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) says radioactive steam has suddenly begun emanating from previously exploded nuclear reactor building #3 at the Fukuishima disaster site in Japan. TEPCO says they do not know why this is happening and cannot go into the building to see what's happening due to damage and lethal radiation levels in that building. Experts say this could be the beginning of  a "spent fuel pool criticality (meltdown)" involving up to 89 TONS of nuclear fuel burning up into the atmosphere and heading to North America. Steam photo, full details and suggested methods to protect yourself appear below.

Another criticality?

To provide insight into how much trouble this could be, the chart below proves that, according to TEPCO, reactor #3 was loaded with 566 fuel assemblies.  The spent fuel pool in reactor building #3 contains 514 assemblies; about 89 TONS.  If that "goes critical" there's nothing to contain the radiation which will go directly into the air.

This information was put out on 12-28-13 and it is now 1-4-2014...I think we need to watch the West Coast closely right now.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CxiQwGYDO-w[/youtube]

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Re: Fukushima Affect on Northern Hemisphere and US West Coast
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2014, 01:28:19 PM »
This is a link to civilian monitoring stations and in some areas on the West Coast the levels are above the 100 CPM (Counts Per Minute) alert level.  Thought you might be interested.  I don't trust the EPA monitoring system.

http://www.netc.com/

It has 5 levels of alert and some areas out West has Level 3 and 4.  Level 3 is elevated level...level 4 is concern level...level 5 is the highest level.  Just realize that in some cases there may be a local issue causing the elevated reading.  Back ground radiation from what I have been told usually can run up to around 60 CPM.

Active alerts at this posting

http://www.netc.com/activealerts.php

1:16C25071.14 near Newport News, VA, US 131 2014-01-04 20:23:43 U
5:812 near Grand Junction, CO, US 617 2014-01-04 05:38:00 G
4:936 near Anaheim, CA, US 218 2014-01-04 14:08:00 G
5:936 near Anaheim, CA, US 344 2014-01-04 14:08:00 G
4:955 near Eureka, CA, US 143 2014-01-04 10:31:00 U
5:955 near Eureka, CA, US 229 2014-01-04 10:31:00 U
1:AU.GROVEDALEVICTORIA near Geelong, AU 194 2014-01-04 20:22:55 I

These are level 4 Radcon alerts

Underlined numbers are CPM.

Read the comments on the site and in their forum and realize that this is a monitoring site and also realize that the higher in elevation you go the readings will go up.  The monitoring may be near some geological area where background radiation is higher to geological formations.
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Re: Fukushima Affect on Northern Hemisphere and US West Coast
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2014, 06:22:12 PM »
That list you have of the 7 high spots needs to list what their standards are. I just left a 30 back ground every day. numbers in the hundreds are not normal for anyone. D

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Re: Fukushima Affect on Northern Hemisphere and US West Coast
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2014, 08:23:37 PM »
NORM - Natural Occurring Radioactive Material - This word is the answer to any question about radiation.  If asked about radiation snow, its the NORM. If asked about cancer effects, its the NORM.  If asked about oil drilling levels, its the NORM.  The NORM was created to explain the radiation in the area where you live.

There are many questions about radiation and the causes / effects of exposure to radiation, but the one that is most often asked "What is the NORM level?"  The EPAs answer is "Health physicists generally agree on limiting a person's exposure beyond background radiation to about 100 mrem per year from all sources. Exceptions are occupational, medical or accidental exposures. (Medical X-rays generally deliver less than 10 mrem).  EPA and other regulatory agencies generally limit exposures from specific source to the public to levels well under 100 mrem. This is far below the exposure levels that cause acute health effects. The millirem (mrem) is a very small measurement of radiation.

In Olympia, WA the average NORM radiation is 50 mrem and 100 mrem exposure from all other sources would set the level of concern/watch level at 150 mrem.  Nuclear Emergency Tracking Center will alert you when the radiation exceeds the EPA's standards.  Please be careful and do not panic.  Just be aware of the concern/watch levels in your area.

In Tucson, AZ, the average NORM radiation is about 118 mrem, add 100 mrem exposure from all other sources, the concern/watch level equals 218 mrem.

This was taken from the same site.  I will have to do some digging Duem for I don't know the standard for various areas but I am sure I can find them.  The concern watch level equals 218 mrem.  I will dig further to see what I can find.

Here is a site that you can calculate you dosage:

http://www.epa.gov/radiation/understand/calculate.html

The amount of radiation exposure is usually expressed in a unit called millirem (mrem). In the United States, the average person is exposed to an effective dose equivalent of approximately 620 mrem (whole-body exposure) per year from all sources (NCRP Report No.160).
The dose calculator is based on the American Nuclear Society's brochure, "Personal Radiation Dose Chart". The primary sources of information we relied on are the National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements Reports #92-#95, and #100. Please remember that the values used in the calculator are general averages and do not provide precise individual dose calculations.

My reading for this past year was 382.319 mrems just from my dosage calculation for my specific area where I live.  This is by no means exact but generalized.  Florida is low in natural occurring radiation.  My home has smoke detectors, no granite but is made of concrete block and so on.  This is part of the dosage chart calculation.  The Midwest has a lot more natural background as well as those at a high altitude.  The higher up you go the more exposure to cosmic radiation and the lower you go the higher terrestrial radiation.
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Re: Fukushima Affect on Northern Hemisphere and US West Coast
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2014, 08:57:02 PM »
I got 452.211. No wonder I am starting to glow and Fuku is going the other way. Pretty soon I won't need lights in the house.  8) 
 
Since most of this is natureal, I wonder what would happen to us if we were without it 100%. Would we get sick or better? We must need some of it or maybe we can deal with some of it.
 
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