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Re: The Plan
« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2013, 11:46:41 PM »
Ah, Matrix.  We deviate.  Yes, it is a "video game."  But what is the "win" scenario?  I say it is that creating of "heaven..."  EveryOne wants "heaven," no One wants to let OTHERS have "heaven:" THEY are just LAZY.

No "Winning" involved ! That's a Monkey thing..  LOL.

The Earth will change, but I can say; NO more Money.... won't need it.

Heaven so called, will continue as it always has...

Can't go to Heaven, if your "Real Self" is already observing from their....   :)

"Meet Suit" can't go to Heaven.... as it is part of a Program "Book"....  LOL.

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« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2013, 11:59:18 PM »
Hey I just finished designing a 4 story house for a friend for free, does that count. In China many people barter expenses. My talents for yours. Is it fair, NO! That’s why money was invented……If I make a rug that takes me 3 months, should I give it up for a dozen apples.  Even a thousand apples. How am I going to eat them. Then I have to re-barter the apples to get more rug supplies.  Money was a very good idea, the problem is what they did with it. No different than the gun and bullet talk.
 
Need more Keys Amy........Maybe hundreds to thousands of them. Our little world has a lot of problems locked up in money. And I do think with out goals many will go the fat/lazy way. I would.
Goals keep me going and alive. There has to be a reason for the next day besides watering the robots.
 
This needs to go deeper to figure it out! It will be a grass roots thingy, you know the PTB will never go for it. The only way to halt them is not to play their games. So at some time everyone needs to stop all banking, pay days, mortgages, car payments and so on with out the country going belly up.
 
How do you handle defense? How to handle dictators and other that will just come in and take your stuff and leave to sell it in a location that uses money. This needs to be a world thingy.
 
Will they still ship me my coffee if I don't pay for it just because they love Deuem.
 
Say everyone needs to do something to get his/her allocation. Ok, what do you do if they don't do their share, give them more free stuff. We do that now...It doesn’t work.
 
I would say that the average member here has a decent education. [they can all type and understand computers to start with] But this crowd is different than the masses of the world. I know a lot of people that don't care about anything and have no goals. What to do with them. Shot them? Move them to an island for rejects? I don't know.
 
What happens if something I want to do is over my head, can I do it anyways. It breaks no laws. Say I walk over to the airport and take a jet for a ride. See, some things need rules and not laws. [ this brings back some form of gubermint ]
 
How do you handle rules. The gubermint screwed that up; I wonder what people would do on their own. In a very short time, like minds would attract and depart the unlike ones and make their area better and then the jealousy starts.

I can see hackers hacking every robot in the world. Oh no I Robot for real. Ok, can we hack proof a robot?

Many, many keys,
Deuem.

Keep going. It’s good you started your own thread on this. I like it…….
 

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« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2013, 04:44:01 AM »
You compare People who have NEVER been taught to find Their gifts and develop them with People who would be so trained.  You compare People who now "have more" and have no training in "money management" to Those who have the same resources available to ALL with no "going back to the poorhouse."

So WHO will train them?  Before you said if people were just given free energy and free everything they would jump at it and go about seeking their bliss... Now they need training first on how to manage the handouts... so I ask again WHO will train them and how many will actually accept the lessons?

I have spent a lot of energy here trying to teach people how to manage money and get a relief from the current money troubles. I know it works with the people who took the lessons to heart and I know it works for me (now that I finally practice what I preach ;) ) But the rest still procrastinate and complain ;)

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And to be frank, in abundance, it takes only a very few to do what needs to be done for the rest, so even if most "did nothing" (really? ALL the lottery winners did nothing?), it is no skin of anyOne's noses.

I accept that  As I have said many times only a small handful of men created the USA. So WHERE are those few? Surely by now with all the talk about abundance being the solution from many sources other than yourself, surely there must be those leaders in the wings to make the first move.... so where are they?

And no not ALL lottery winners do nothing, but statistics show that the majority of such winners blow it all in a short time... and definitely big winners in Casinos will over 90% of them lose it back

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Strange but true: an extra-big lottery prize means you've got an extra-big chance of going bankrupt.

That's the implication of a paper published in 2010 by researchers at Vanderbilt University, the University of Kentucky and the University of Pittsburgh. The authors looked at lottery winners as separated into two groups: those who won sizable cash prizes (between $50,000 and $150,000) and those who won more modest prizes of $10,000 or less. They found that five years after the fact, the big winners were the ones more likely to have filed for bankruptcy.

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YOU don't understand how very differently Humans will behave with training and a lack of worry about meeting basics.


I understand perfectly. Have studied human behavior for decades. The Romans (the citizens) had abundance,  They had cheap labor (slaves)  They had leisure.  And what happened? the citizens turned to drunken orgies and stopped caring about anything.

But there is no point flogging a dead horse ;)

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« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2013, 04:51:40 AM »
Really z?  That's what You would choose?  Really?  How sad.

Not about me :P Its about the general populace. Seems you are confused ;)

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EveryOne *I* know can think of SOMETHING They would DO.

Sure  EVERYONE has dreams... everyone will give a list of what they will do... but in the end ACTION does not bear up the words.  I can give you many examples of people whose circumstances turned for the better but they never acted on what they wanted to, what they said was their dream, even though now they could pursue it

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It must be sad to have nothing One would do if freed from financial BS.

I can think of lots of things.... :D but again your missing the point. At the moment I can already say in a few months I will be free from financial BS. Tried to show everyone here how to do it. How easy it is. A few got it :D

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« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2013, 05:04:29 AM »
And yes there was "energy involved."  It just happened to be HUMAN energy.

Well you cannot eliminate human energy from the equation. Humans need to expend MORE energy to better themselves. If they stop striving for that, they stop being human

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Let's get off Our butts and DO it.  If religion STOPS You from the effort, there is something very wrong, in My view.  Almost like serving the dark side through inaction...  How does that quote go?  Evil triumphs where good Humans do nothing?  Basically that.

Do WHAT exactly? beyond spread the word?

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And since MY "religious" views see Consciousness as "God/god" co-creating the now, I, as "God/god" choose to create towards TAP.

Maybe the metaphor is God=Humans willing to make Conscious co-creation of "heaven," and thus it's up to Us.  You likely won't see it that way. 

Sure we can all be god.. :D  Create our own little Universe as we see fit.

Now find me two people that can 100% agree on anything, much less focus on that one thing to materialize it...

In my view... THAT is the problem with the Law of Attraction... not enough people to focus on ONE thing. This is why secret societies came about with emphasis on rituals, symbols and mantras... to FOCUS many minds on ONE topic

Without that regimental focus... you will never get enough people to focus on a project.

Look at Anonymous... great idea at the start... but it got out of control and to big to fast with NO FOCUS... just throw on a mask and make a statement... but every mask has a different point of view and a different agenda. Now it is basically anarchy

This too shall pass....

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« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2013, 05:17:11 AM »
"Lazy."  Heh.  The rich have leisure; the poor are lazy.  Whatever.

Ah yes there ya go again twisting words... Whatever :P

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And I say this:  "IF there is anything beyond this life and we are truly here to learn a lesson... then no matter what man plans, the powers that run the Universe be it God or the Force... the plans of man will fall awry" is a goofy "if" to use to demotivate Oneself from an effort to make it better.  I say it's a bloody cop-out, even.

Wow seriously? You really don't get it huh?

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There is no proof either way, and clinging to inaction, NOT stepping up to the plate and being responsible for some part of what is created on this planet, because MAYBE and IF, that's just plain CHICKEN.

The thing you fail to understand, or refuse to understand is that MANY people on this rock HAVE the proof they need. And what do you mean by inaction? Only that people don't jump on YOUR selected course of action... which so far as I can see is basically nothing more that talking about it to spread the word.

You can only repeat the story so many times to the same people before it works against you. If a plan is sound it will stand on its own merits. You cannot force people to accept your views...

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It's what They COUNT ON.

"They" who?  Everyone talks abut "They", the "illuminati" "the PTB" "The Cabal"  yet no one has yet been able to say exactly who "they" are. It is to general. To most people "They" is anyone who doesn't agree with them ;)

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Meh.  Do enjoy the night, z.

Oh I will :D  I just got the Auction catalog in the mail and my item is on the front cover :D  I expect good things ;) 

And getting all excited about a few stones I have lying about I dug up some time ago, using nothing but human energy.  Not going to jinx it but dang...  if I only knew back then  ;)

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Re: The Plan
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2013, 05:31:06 AM »
Spend as much time informing Others as possible.  That is what One who truly believes in getting this rolling does.  That is the first step.  I can offer suggestions of what to do...  Write anyOne and everyOne You can think of...  Um, post on forums...  Tweet links...  Post comments on Youtube...  Talk about it whenever it seems to fit.... 

That's step one.  Is that enough detail?

Yup PLENTY enough detail...

But we already knew that step and gave you all the opportunity and platform to do just that.

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Step 2: vote People in who will support the actions...IF They who control elections let Us.  Betting We could solve this issue.

Okay... tell me who on the ballots today support this position and I will vote for them...

If you cannot do that, then tell me who we should support to get them to step up and run for office....

Just saying "Vote for people that support it" is not enough... because I do not see anyone on the ballot that is for TAP or similar solutions.  I thought Harry Reid and Shelly Berkely  (Along with Robert Redford) were two such people. Our Renaissance group supported them when they fought to stop the Arctic Oil Drilling in the protected preserve...

We WON twice and they gave up the third time. I still have the letters of thanks.  But Harry Ried is no longer on my 'nice guy' list for several reasons dealing with our project and John's mine  but I digress :P

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Really, why don't You ask specific questions?  Because beyond #1, spreading awareness to the tipping point, the leaders of the moment will emerge, and the goals are simple enough to understand.

Specific questions have been asked... but you don't have the answers on how to get the ball rolling beyond "spreading awareness"  Look around facebook, Twatter and the net in general. People these days are bombarded by so many ideas, fake news, Hollywood tiffs, false flags, gloom and doom etc etc etc . The general populace has a very short attention span... They read VERY little as we have proved here again and again... and they retain even less.

Even I am getting so overloaded with information I can no longer keep up and post up to date news like I used to

"spreading awareness" without affirmative action to back it will lead nowhere. To get something to stick... people have to see the seeds of action forming.

You may be right  a leader or two may emerge from the awareness... but if you are also right about the evil cabal wanting to stop it, then that leader will soon have an 'accident'
 

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« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2013, 05:37:36 AM »
EveryOne wants "heaven," no One wants to let OTHERS have "heaven:" THEY are just LAZY.

Everyone wants heaven... but no two people want the SAME heaven...  All the Male Muslims in the world want 72 virgins when they go to heaven :D, The Buddhists all see Nirvana, The Christians tell us you will be rewarded by getting wings and flying around playing a HARP all day and spending all your time worshiping for eternity  :o

Me? Well a small Kingdom filled with amazon women might be appealing :P

But yeah if given the chance people will be LAZY, whether Prince or Pauper  or even king... I could get used to hand maidens taking care of things :P

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« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2013, 06:32:40 AM »
You compare People who have NEVER been taught to find Their gifts and develop them with People who would be so trained.  You compare People who now "have more" and have no training in "money management" to Those who have the same resources available to ALL with no "going back to the poorhouse."

And to be frank, in abundance, it takes only a very few to do what needs to be done for the rest, so even if most "did nothing" (really? ALL the lottery winners did nothing?), it is no skin of anyOne's noses.

YOU don't understand how very differently Humans will behave with training and a lack of worry about meeting basics.

What was that Einstein quote about the fish and the tree?...

How can you teach people to find their 'gifts'?... If somebody has a gift they should damn well know about it.

In regards to training, I believe all the greats have trained them selves, just as everybody today should train them selves.
'Money Management' for example - how hard is that?
Work out your income, work out your expenses, work out a survival budget etc etc.
I'm not trained in money managment, however, if it ever occured to me I needed training in money management, I'd train my self, if I couldn't hire a peer. 

I notice one of your replies to Zorg is 'inaction of the Good leads to the Evil rule'.
I used the same statement in counter to one of your aguments last week.

Wishy Washy  :P

I notice you are leaning more towards how 'people should rely on others' (Service to others)
I maintain that if everybody served them selves adequatley, then no one needs to help anyone (service to self)
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« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2013, 10:12:59 AM »
well i have tried to keep out of this  mostly because there are good points here and there

but
if you are waiting for the perfect time to be happy  or to be saved or for someone to listen to you
or anything
you are SO missing the point of this excusion on this rock

you have to find what is in yourself at this moment to be joyous..not just so-so content
but to be happy in the chaos..
 in someone elses words   ..    find your bliss
 maybe that bliss is just comfort..but it's your decision what your bliss is in the moment
and it can change
if you spend your time looking to others..you have failed
we are all  like a pebble into the pool.. your whatever  spreads
i'ld rather my spirals outward were joyous

Z is working on his by dumping the financial bs and along the way he is sharing his info
it's not on him wheather anyone uses it..he did his part
sadly amy  imo you are sitting on your hands waiting for someone to take care of you and what you think the world should be like.
.perhaps a better use for your dreams would be writting fantasy novels..you have excellent writting skills and some ideas that would be great stories..
flesh them out.. and get them published...pretent it is fiction
that seems to work well for coming true..
most here are living off of ideas they have seen in print or watched in movies..
you might accomplish your goals in that way
argueing your ideas here isn't doing it

by being here we are afforded the time to learn that we truly are in charge of our own destiny
tons of deversions and such to slow you down.. but only if you let yourself be sidetracked



there is only one lesson here...you are in charge of your own and only your own destiny


every obstical in your path is only to make you be more aware that
you call the shots in how things are handled for you

sorry for the mini rant and soapbox preachiness..
going outside to pull some weeds..


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« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2013, 10:14:37 AM »
No "Winning" involved ! That's a Monkey thing..  LOL.

The Earth will change, but I can say; NO more Money.... won't need it.

Heaven so called, will continue as it always has...

Can't go to Heaven, if your "Real Self" is already observing from their....   :)

"Meet Suit" can't go to Heaven.... as it is part of a Program "Book"....  LOL.

So...  I should just give up?  Let it go and scrape it out the rest of My days, learning that My ideas are pointless?  That what I do is irrelevant?

Is that what I can take from what You said?
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« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2013, 10:22:11 AM »
This is food for thought in what happened to me today...

My 93 year old Grandma who I love dearly, and who is also one of my best friends broke her hip yesterday.  I spent today in a hospital full of old folke where the sun has set on their life...

Yesterday I also saw a video of a 95yo who has been deemed the oldest Yoga instructer in the world.  Yeah sure that is debatable... Perhaps???  But on the same token I don't think I will see another 95 year old who can do things better than most teenagers.

Moral of the story is... You can only Lobby Yourself to make change.  Lobby yourself enough and you may change other people, but without that initial step of providing a base for people to see there is another worm farm to live in per se, don't expect some moronic fools who Fleece the Lamb to provide change !

Worst part is that you cannot exclude them from change  ;D

And that is the Paradox of life we live in :D

 

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« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2013, 10:30:49 AM »
Okay... tell me who on the ballots today support this position and I will vote for them...

There's no One yet.  FIRST the ideas must hit the tipping point.

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If you cannot do that, then tell me who we should support to get them to step up and run for office....

Me?

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Specific questions have been asked... but you don't have the answers on how to get the ball rolling beyond "spreading awareness"  Look around facebook, Twatter and the net in general. People these days are bombarded by so many ideas, fake news, Hollywood tiffs, false flags, gloom and doom etc etc etc . The general populace has a very short attention span... They read VERY little as we have proved here again and again... and they retain even less.

THAT was why I made the vid...  And yeah, You may think that is some stupid step, spreading awareness, but any OTHER efforts (beyond getting the methods of free energy extraction viable - which We are doing here on Peggy - and all over the planet) are rather pointless at this stage.  Until enough People have the chance to shift paradigms, They simply will not.  And even when They have had that opportunity, They likely wont, but enough eventually will.  Then the rest follow.

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"spreading awareness" without affirmative action to back it will lead nowhere. To get something to stick... people have to see the seeds of action forming.

Wrong.  When We all are aware - We can shift paradigms.  Without awareness of another paradigm, few will spontaneously shift.  And with a shift of paradigm will come a shift in focus - to the steps I offer.

And Peggy herself is doing the FE work, MANY are doing it.  THAT is the "doing" that must be done at this stage.

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You may be right  a leader or two may emerge from the awareness... but if you are also right about the evil cabal wanting to stop it, then that leader will soon have an 'accident'

Agreed, but there will always be a leader behind the top One(s) to emerge if the top One(s) are removed.  As least there will be until They have gone through a vast many.  And before that happens, I think We can wrest control.
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« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2013, 11:18:10 AM »
Hey I just finished designing a 4 story house for a friend for free, does that count.

In a way, yes.  It shows Our willingness to do things for the social currency We receive:  thanks, praise, name recognition, and on and on.  (I'm pretty sure You didn't do it with nothing in social currency in return...)

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In China many people barter expenses. My talents for yours. Is it fair, NO! That’s why money was invented……If I make a rug that takes me 3 months, should I give it up for a dozen apples.  Even a thousand apples. How am I going to eat them. Then I have to re-barter the apples to get more rug supplies.  Money was a very good idea, the problem is what they did with it. No different than the gun and bullet talk.

Again, You are looking at a system where exchange is required to survive.  In TAP, there is no such requirement.
 
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Need more Keys Amy........Maybe hundreds to thousands of them. Our little world has a lot of problems locked up in money. And I do think with out goals many will go the fat/lazy way. I would.
Goals keep me going and alive. There has to be a reason for the next day besides watering the robots.

What do You love to do - irrespective of cost?  You would not do those things?  Or do You truly have nothing You love to do?
 
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This needs to go deeper to figure it out! It will be a grass roots thingy, you know the PTB will never go for it. The only way to halt them is not to play their games. So at some time everyone needs to stop all banking, pay days, mortgages, car payments and so on with out the country going belly up.

Agreed it will be grassroots.  But it surely won't be if no One much has ever thought about it.  Thus the first step is spreading the awareness.  As far as stopping all that, it will happen of its own accord as the need for money is removed by free energy and filling necessary jobs with Those who LOVE the work, and robots to pick up slack.
 
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How do you handle defense? How to handle dictators and other that will just come in and take your stuff and leave to sell it in a location that uses money. This needs to be a world thingy.

Let's see...  "If You want peace, take the PROFIT out of war." What would defense be from?  Who would choose to war and why if there is no profit in it?  How will a dictator emerge in a governance that has no leaders except those that emerge to solve problems?  How will People "just come in and take your stuff" when We ALL are or can be armed as well as any next guy?  When We ALL are presumed armed?  And money will vanish globally with FE & robots and the interweb.
 
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Will they still ship me my coffee if I don't pay for it just because they love Deuem.

I'm sure there are enough People who care that coffee is available on this planet, and will set up what needs to be set up so that We all can go to the web and order some whenever We want.
 
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Say everyone needs to do something to get his/her allocation. Ok, what do you do if they don't do their share, give them more free stuff. We do that now...It doesn’t work.

WHAT "allocation?"  There are no "allocations."  There is plenty on this planet to sustain RICHLY vastly more than are here now - We already over produce food by about 25%.  We throw out nearly half of what We produce.  Yeah, if You want lobster, You may have to place Your name on a list.  But if You want fresh, healthy, organic food, plenty will be available to choose from.
 
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I would say that the average member here has a decent education. [they can all type and understand computers to start with] But this crowd is different than the masses of the world. I know a lot of people that don't care about anything and have no goals. What to do with them. Shot them? Move them to an island for rejects? I don't know.

Is it that They truly have nothing that sparks Their interest? Or is it that They long ago gave up that spark as unattainable because They could not afford it?  Most once had dreams but no education was available, or They couldn't afford a piano, or the clay to sculpt, or the freedom to teach what They know, or any other thing from a long list.

Also consider that They are a product of a society that has deliberately stripped the personal power from Us, and been indoctrinated into a robot mind set.  You cannot say that, tasting personal power over Their lives, that They will not find a spark that in this oppression, They no longer have.
 
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What happens if something I want to do is over my head, can I do it anyways. It breaks no laws. Say I walk over to the airport and take a jet for a ride. See, some things need rules and not laws. [ this brings back some form of gubermint ]

What happens most likely is that You don't have the proper codes to start the vehicle that is not Yours.  But saying somehow You stole the codes...You would lose all social currency, and if You survived, We would likely see You as a threat and lock You up rather than choose to have nothing to do with You in Your negative social currency standing.  For any who You injure, We will offer condolences and accept that freedom means every so often, We may have a problem arise, and We will have to solve for it.  And that problem can include deaths.
 
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How do you handle rules. The gubermint screwed that up; I wonder what people would do on their own. In a very short time, like minds would attract and depart the unlike ones and make their area better and then the jealousy starts.

Any community is welcome to set up any rules that do not violate the three Laws.

AnyOne in a community that has an unacceptable rule is welcome to find another place on the planet as residence - or a sky house - and leave.

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I can see hackers hacking every robot in the world. Oh no I Robot for real. Ok, can we hack proof a robot?

What if all public works robots are open-source programmed and social currency is received for Those who come up with the BEST solutions?  Linux proves that such stigmergic effort works quite well.

Bragging rights are worth a lot on the social currency scale - for Those who value them...

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Many, many keys,
Deuem.

Keep going. It’s good you started your own thread on this. I like it…….

Understand that when I answer Your questions with questions of My own, it is because I need data to answer Yours.  It is not that I am skirting Your questions.  If the data requested is supplied, I can proceed with the answer.  [smile]
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« Reply #44 on: November 05, 2013, 11:54:15 AM »
There's no One yet.  FIRST the ideas must hit the tipping point.

That is the thing... this 'tipping point'  What exactly is that?  A few years back the webbots were all the rage... they spoke of a tipping point and made predictions that didn't happen.

Have you actually done research on how many people would need to be fully aware of TAP before it reaches this tipping point?

Have you taken into account that on a percentage basis to make it global you would need numbers in the Muslin sector and the Chinese sector?  Since the later make up the majority of the worlds population... you cannot leave them out

I 100% believe in the Law of Attraction... but I also know this... it works on a one on one basis between you and the universe. This has been known throughout time... it is repeatedly stressed in "The Secret"... it is the source of the term "God helps those who help themselves"

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Me?

Okay you... Do you have any political experience? Where do you want to start? Local level?  Are you currently affiliates with any party or would you run as independent?

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THAT was why I made the vid...  And yeah, You may think that is some stupid step, spreading awareness, but any OTHER efforts (beyond getting the methods of free energy extraction viable - which We are doing here on Peggy - and all over the planet) are rather pointless at this stage.  Until enough People have the chance to shift paradigms, They simply will not.  And even when They have had that opportunity, They likely wont, but enough eventually will.  Then the rest follow.

The video was great... save for that mask. No one thinks the plan is stupid. There are many others pushing abundance out there. But if you were really wanting people to take you seriously, drop the silly mask... have the courage to make your case as a human... not a member of some faceless group that even you told us has no organiazation (thus no focus)  It may be fun to run with the other faceless sheep and way placards denouncing "da gubment"  but if you want to be remembered for the SOLUTION not the ANARCHY, drop the silly mask. Most people I know are getting pissed off at Anon. But certainly if you have a serious message... make a video with charts facts and concrete steps to show people HOW they can get to a position to shift paradigms.

As you say if they cannot see it they don't know it's there...

But as I say  if they cannot see HOW or WHAT they can do to make the shift... they will soon loose interest in the message and look for something else, and then the plank tips back the other way

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Wrong.  When We all are aware - We can shift paradigms.  Without awareness of another paradigm, few will spontaneously shift.  And with a shift of paradigm will come a shift in focus - to the steps I offer.

And Peggy herself is doing the FE work, MANY are doing it.  THAT is the "doing" that must be done at this stage.

Awareness of a possible paradigm still requires awareness of how it can be achieved.

But carry on ;)

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Agreed, but there will always be a leader behind the top One(s) to emerge if the top One(s) are removed.  As least there will be until They have gone through a vast many.  And before that happens, I think We can wrest control.

And that could take Centuries...

I have only a relatively short time left... so I like many others on this planet first need to worry about the here and NOW and work to make my situation and the future of my family secure. Along the way I share the method of how others can do it...

Your TAP is a grand idea... for sometime in the future...  People in need care little about the distant future.  Give a man a fish and he will have a full stomach and will listen to your speech (they do this all the time at shelters)  but tomorrow that man will be more interested in looking for the next meal than thinking about the future

teach him to fish (fend for HIMSELF and his family) he will then feel more secure and have time to consider your plan

This is how politicians and both benevolent leaders and despots alike have always operated.  They identify the NEED THAT PEOPLE HAVE TODAY.... then provide that need and the people will follow them straight into hell.

Hitler did this... that is why he got as far as he did

Cult leaders do this, Religious leaders do this, Obama did this and got reelected

I did this and soon had a small Kingdom of loyal followers

People respond better to lofty ideas when they can see 'what's in it for me?'  If you can provide a solution for their IMMEDIATE woes... they will listen to your plans.



 


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