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The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima
« on: October 07, 2013, 06:13:54 PM »



ISIS Report 30/09/13
The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima

"Massive leakages of heavily contaminated water, crumbling structures, and spent fuels that if exposed to air could release 85 times as much lethal caesium as was released at Chernobyl are obvious reasons why urgent help is needed from the world’s top experts." Dr Mae Wan Ho.

Petition to Ban Ki-Moon
Harvey Wasserman, American journalist, author, democracy activist and advocate for renewable energy, urges us to sign a petition to be delivered to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon:

CRISIS AT FUKUSHIMA #4: PETITION THE UN & US FOR GLOBAL RESPONSE


In a desperate attempt to cope with the continuing crisis since the nuclear meltdown in March 2011, TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Company) says that it may begin trying to remove more than 1,300 spent fuel rods from a badly damaged pool within 60 days.

The pool is precariously perched on top of a tilting, sinking building that could come crashing down in the next earthquake or all by itself. (A relatively small earthquake did strike Fukushima prefecture 19 September.)




The 400 tons of fuel in that pool could release more than 15,000 times the radiation released at Hiroshima.

TEPCO does not have the scientific,
engineering or financial resources to handle the job,
and nor does the Japanese government.

It needs a coordinated worldwide effort of the best scientists and engineers, says Wasserman. [1]




Thousands of tons of heavily contaminated water are pouring through the Fukushima site (see Box 1). This is also further undermining the unstable structures at Fukushima, including the one supporting the Unit 4 fuel pool.




Groundwater carries contamination to ocean and throughout the site
According to Greenpeace International [2], documents newly obtained by the Asahi Shimbun (Japan’s international daily news) reveal that US nuclear experts had urged TEPCO to install frozen soil barriers as early as April 2011 to try and prevent groundwater contamination.

But TEPCO officials sent a memo to government officials to delay the announcement so as to protect the company’s finances and investors’ confidence. Banri Kaieda, then head of the Ministry of Economy, Trade, and Industry (METI), which oversees the promotion of nuclear power, agreed to hold off the announcement, with TEPCO Executive Vice President Sakae Muto reportedly promising to quietly proceed with the ice wall project, but never did so.

TEPCO denies that Muto made such an agreement.




Now nearly two and a half years later,

an estimated 800 to 1,000 tons
of groundwater flow down
through the plant each day,
with 300 tons of contaminated
water entering the ocean.

In addition, 400 tonnes of contaminated water a day seep into damaged reactor buildings.

Workers are unable to identify
where the water is entering the buildings
or how to stop the seepage.





The radiation levels remain so high
that they cannot get close enough to do anything.


Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s administration has promised $470 million of taxpayer money to begin building the ice wall, as international pressure mounts in advance of the 2020 Summer Olympic Games recently awarded to Tokyo.


For those who may wonder, this is what a 'normal' Spent Fuel Pool looks like.



Spent fuel assemblies the major hazard in exposed and damaged pools
More than 6,000 fuel assemblies are now sitting in a common pool just 50 metres from Unit 4, some containing plutonium. The pool is not contained, leaving it vulnerable to loss of coolant, the collapse of a nearby building, earthquake, or other mishap [1].



More than 11,000 fuel assemblies are scattered around the Fukushima site, amounting to 85 times as much lethal caesium as was released at Chernobyl, according to long-time expert and former Department of Energy official Robert Alvarez .

Spent fuel must be kept under water, as it is clad in zirconium alloy that will spontaneously ignite when exposed to air.

Each uncovered rod emits enough radiation to kill a person nearby in a matter of minutes. A fire could force all personnel to flee and make electronic machinery stop working.


A new fuel fire at Unit 4
would spew out a continuous stream
of lethal radiation poisons for centuries.




Arnie Gundersen, nuclear engineer for forty years, who once manufactured fuel rods, points out that the fuel rods in Unit 4 core are bent, damaged and brittle to the point of crumbling. Cameras have revealed worrying quantities of debris in the already wrecked fuel pool.

The engineering and scientific barriers
to emptying the unit 4 pool
are “unique and daunting,”


says Gundersen, and must be done to
“100% perfection.”



That is not all.   :P




Radioactive water leaking from storage tanks
As of mid-September, TEPCO was storing 435,000 tons of radioactive water in above-ground tanks as well as in basements of the reactor buildings, 137,000 more tons than were stored the previous year [2], and rising.


However, these
storage tanks are leaking.


Radiation readings shot up by more than 20% to their highest levels early in September [3]. Radiation hot spots have spread to three holding areas for hundreds of the tanks storing water contaminated by being flushed over three reactors that melted down in March 2011.




Readings just above the ground near a set of tanks showed radiation as high as 2,200 mSv on 3 September 2013 (a day before the 6.9 magnitude earthquake off southern Japan); the previous high in areas holding the tanks was 1,800 mSv recorded 3 days earlier.

Both levels would kill an
unprotected person within hours.

The Nuclear Regulation Authority (NRA) said the recently discovered hotspots are highly concentrated and easily shielded.

TEPCO said one of the tanks was leaking last month. Another small leak was found later and the rising number of areas with concentrated radiation is raising concerns of further leaks.

The government has ordered TEPCO to transfer all the water held in about 310 weaker bolted tanks to more reliable welded tanks that take longer to build, although an NRA official has said some of the welded tanks too might not be safe, as they are lined up on the ground rather than on a concrete foundation.




Continued dumping of radioactive water into the ocean
TEPCO has admitted it dumped 1,130 tons or reportedly low-level radioactive water into nearby Pacific Ocean in early September, after heavy rainfall resulted in water collecting within barriers set up around the tanks of contaminated water [2]. Officials said the water contained between 3 and 23 Bq/L radioactive strontium.

Although the legal limit for strontium in seawater is 30 Bq/L, TEPCO later acknowledged that they had not tested the water for Cs-134 or Cs-137.

Groundwater wells in the area, the site of a recent leak of 300 tons of highly radioactive water, have begun to show increasing levels of contamination.


Samples taken from one well near the leak
on 14 September tested 170,000 Bq/L of tritium.


Japan’s fishermen are incensed; and say they will put off test-fishing for white-bait until next spring and consumer confidence remains low. The NRA plans to begin radiological testing of ocean waters off the Fukushima coast, using a ship with a radiation counter that will examine the ocean floor within 1,000 km radius.

The government of South Korea has refused to lift an indefinite ban on seafood imports from 8 Japanese prefectures, which was imposed on 9 September 2013.

It is one year since the NRA was set up to oversee nuclear safety. Chairman Shunichi Tanaka issued a reminder that the Fukushima disaster is still in a precarious state and a danger to Japan’s citizens.





Remaining reactors to be decommissioned
Prime Minister Abe urged TEPCO officials to decommission the two remaining undamaged reactors 5 and 6. TEPCO has been reluctant, hoping they could be restarted for profit.

The government has already injected a trillion yen into TEPCO last year.

The company might ask for another trillion as decommissioning costs.

TEPCO finally agreed to shut down reactors 5 and 6 which are nearing the end of their 40 year lifetime in any case [4].

This would enable the company to concentrate workers and other resources to cope with decommissioning reactors 1 to 4, a process expected to take 40 years.




No easy homecoming for evacuees
Approximately 160,000 people were forced to evacuate in the first days of the crisis, and tens of thousands remain displaced [3]. The National Institute of Advanced Industrial Science and Technology estimated total decontamination costs at $50 billion.


Municipal officials are concerned that residents will not return,
as decontamination efforts have not been successful,
and fear of radiation remains high.



Many former residents are worried that conditions at the Fukushima plant are still unstable.

Although the government lifts evacuation orders once radiation levels fall below 20 mSv per year, the International Commission on Radiological Protection recommends exposure no more than 1 mSv per year.




"Many residents no longer believe official radiation estimates released by the Japanese government, which are often lower than readings gathered by citizens and independent organizations using hand-held Geiger counters,"

Nobuyoshi Ito, a farmer from Iitate, told Reuters,

“They remove the ground under the posts, pour some clean sand, lay down concrete, plus a metal plate, and then put the monitoring post on top. In effect, this shields the radiation [emitting] from the ground."

I asked the mayor, ‘why don’t you protest to the central government?’

"But the municipality isn’t doing anything to fix the situation.”








For more information on the real extent of the Fukushima disaster and how to cope with radioactive contamination see [5] Death Camp Fukushima Chernobyl - an ISIS special report, SiS 55.
References
   1.   “The crisis at Fukushima’s Unit 4 demands a global take-over” Harvey Wasserman, Common Dreams, 20 September 2013, https://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/09/20-1
   2.   “Fukushima nuclear crisis update for September 17 to September 19, 2013, Christine McCann, 20 September 2013, Greenpeace International, http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/nuclear-reaction/fukushima-nuclear-crisis-update-for-september/blog/46707/
   3.   “Record radiation readings near contaminated water tanks”, Aaron Sheldrick and Mari Saito, Reuters, 4 September 2013, http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/04/us-japan-fukushima-tanks-idUSBRE98301020130904
   4.   “Fukushima nuclear crisis update for September 20th to September 23rd, 2013, Christine McCann, 23 September 2013, Greenpeace International, http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/nuclear-reaction/fukushima-nuclear-crisis-update-for-september/blog/46748/
   5.   Ho MW, Greaves S and Saunders PT. Death Camp Fukushima Chernobyl, ISIS special report, 2012, also Science in Society 55, 11-42, 2012.



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Re: The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2013, 09:01:03 PM »



TEPCO : Press Release | Partial Change of the Special Measures for Electricity Bills Applied to the Customers Eligible for Compensation who Evacuated from the Evacuation Zone in Accordance to the Act on Special Measures Concerning Nuclear Emergency Preparedness


We deeply apologize to the people of Fukushima and broader society for the tremendous inconvenience and anxiety caused by the accident at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station. We also would like to apologize for placing heavy burden on our customers' daily lives and business activities by requesting an electricity rate raise under the current severe economic situation.

Since March 11, 2011, the special measures for electricity bills have been applied upon request to our customers eligible for receiving compensation who evacuated from the evacuation zone in accordance with the Act on Special Measures Concerning Nuclear Emergency Preparedness (Previously announced on September 30, December 26, 2011 and March 26, 2012).

For the purpose of reducing burden on these customers until the compensation is paid out, the special measures will be partially changed. Our request to add supply conditions not included in the supply provisions developed based on the proviso of Article 21, paragraph 1 of the Electricity Business Act (Special Measures for Electricity Bills Applied to the Customers Eligible for Compensation who Evacuated from the Evacuation Zone in Accordance to the Act on Special Measures Concerning Nuclear Emergency Preparedness) submitted to the Minister of Economy, Trade and Industry has been approved today.

The following is the outline of the changes made to the special measures for electricity bills.

- Further extension of the electricity bill payment due date at a new residence
Eligibility?Applied upon request to the customers eligible for receiving compensation who evacuated from the evacuation zone after March 11, 2011 in the case of newly concluding an electricity contract in our service area.

Detail
The electricity bill payment due date (the 30th day from the following day of the meter reading) is extended as follows:

(Electricity bill of) March 2011: (Payment due date extended for) 24 months, April 2011: 23 months, May 2011: 22 months, June 2011: 21 months, July 2011: 20 months, August 2011: 19 months, September 2011: 18 months, October 2011: 17 months, November 2011: 16 months, December 2011: 15 months, January 2012: 14 months, February 2012: 13 months, March 2012: 12 months, April 2012: 11 months, May 2012: 10 months, June 2012: 9 months, July 2012: 8 months, August 2012: 7 months, September 2012: 6 months, October 2012: 5 months, November 2012: 4 months, December 2012: 3 months, January 2013: 2 months, February 2013: 1 month.
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Re: The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2013, 09:11:24 PM »
Thor,

Excellent information, thank you.

This does indeed bring many challenges to
the peoples of the earth. My heart goes out
to those who dwell in Japan, no one else
will be affected as great as they are.

I too, would ask of General Electric...why?
Why GE did you allow this to even begin?

Did you not think that Fukushima would once more
see the day that the sea besieged it once again?

And what of the 23 plants that you have operating
in The U.S.

Nevermind.....we demand....NO MORE NUKES!!!!
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Re: The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2013, 09:20:46 PM »


sadly they are talking about a super typhoon to hit japan  within the next week which might make things very much worse


Double whammy drenching in Japan? Super typhoon Francisco may follow Wipha’s path
By Jason Samenow, Published: October 18 at 3:54 pmE-mail the writer


Just one week following a deadly dousing from Typhoon Wipha, a second typhoon could deluge Japan. On the heels of Wipha comes super typhoon Francisco, about 250 miles west-northwest of Guam, tracking north-northwestward.

Long-term track guidance takes super typhoon Francisco on a course generally towards Japan, with another round of rain and wind possible some time between Wednesday and Friday next week.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2013/10/18/double-whammy-drenching-in-japan-super-typhoon-francisco-may-follow-wiphas-path/

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Re: The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2013, 09:36:54 PM »
And this from our friend John Hutchison:    ;)



Published on Sep 27, 2013
MORE SO THEN JAPAN AS THE TRADE WINDS CARRY OVER TO THE USA AND CANADA EXAMPLE REMEMBER THE ASH FROM MOUNT SAINT HELEN'S BLEW EAST SENT TO ME BY AN EX CBC TV JOURNALIST TONIGHT THIS OFFICIAL MAP SINCE 2011 TO PRESENT TIMES SHOW YOU HOW THE RADIATION DUMP WORKS.

The number is much larger for the fuel rods, and as a result the re-calcs will make the end result much worse.

I am not posting the new fuel rod count at this time, because there are a number of sources for the fuel rod increase. I have to determine which INCREASED number is the correct one.

Just wanted to let you know.
Fukushima Impact.

Approximate impact of Cs-137 pollution on Pacific Ocean.

1 curie (named after Madame Curie who discovered radation in a mineral called pitchblende) equals 37 BILLION Becquerels of radation.

1 uc = 37,000, radations per second.

For Cesium-137 it is 88 Curies per gram.

So 1 gram of Cesium-137 is 3,256 billion becquerels per second.
3,256,000,000,000 radations per second.
99,959,279,200,000 becquerels per second per ounce
5,997,556,752,000,000 becquerels per minute from 1 ounce of Cs-137.

There are 1,231 spent fuel rods with about 35% is Cs-137.
A rod is 48.09 lbs.
about 20,721 lbs Cs-137
322,160 oz of Cs-137
28.3495 gm to oz.

So 9,133,076 grams of Cs-137 in 1231 fuel rods.
A gram of Cesium-137 produces 3,256 billion becquerels of radation per second.

So the total radation per second from 9,133,076 grams of cs-137 is: 29,737,298,640,498,000,000 atoms emitting radation per second.


A little doom here; We just might be dead but lets be sure.

1 cubic mile of sea water is 777,205,186,560,000 cubic feet.
So 7.71682543518 is the Cubic Foot radation per second per cubic mile.
So in 1 day there are 666,733.717599549 emitted radation happening in a cubic foot per day mile.

There are about 63,800,000 square miles of Pacific Ocean.
Average depth is about 2.28 miles.
There are 145,464,000 cubic miles in the Pacific Ocean.

Cs-137 has a double decay process 94.6% of the time; first a beta ray, then a gamma ray.
So each cubic foot of the entire Pacific Ocean will have 218.174056838937 Beta radation events per day.
So each cubic foot of the entire Pacific Ocean will have 206.392657769635 Gamma radation events per day.

This is the Cs-137 radation breakdown pattern: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
This describes what a Gamma ray is. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
This describes what a Hertz is. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Gamma rays have higher energy than X-rays, and they are ionizing radation just like X-rays.
The summary is 218 plus 206 divided by 34 or 12.47058.
The number 34 is the average background radation of the N. American continent.

The Pacific Ocean will have a "radation fog" in every cubic foot of water that is 12.47 times HIGHER than the average background radation count of North american continent.

Sea life will be effected in some manner; perhaps all fish will get cancer.

The impact on humanity is a shortage in sea food.

No swimming allowed until radation levels abate to a "safe level";

... in about a few thousand years... :P
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Re: The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2013, 09:42:15 PM »


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Re: The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2013, 10:18:38 PM »





TEPCO : Water Shielding Wall
8 July 2013

In order to mitigate the dispersal of radioactive material into the ocean, we have been constructing a water shielding wall in front of the existing seawall of Units 1 to 4 since October 2011. It is scheduled to be completed in the spring of 2014.

We started placing steel pipe sheet piles, which will form the main structure of the water shielding wall, from April 2.




The Study Result on the Water Shielding Wall at the Groundside

1. Purpose of this study
We conducted analysis on the effect and influence of installing water shielding
wall at the groundside in addition to the one at the seaside from the following
aspects:

(1) Effect to prevent further expansion of ocean contamination
(2) Risk of accumulated water inside the buildings flowing into groundwater
(3) Interference with other projects


For the mitigation of groundwater flow into the buildings, because it is difficult
to manage groundwater level around the buildings in accordance with the water
level of accumulated water inside the building by implementing water shielding
wall at the groundwater, we plan to study on another solution to manage
groundwater level around the buildings by sub-drain around the buildings.







2. Study Result
(1) Effect to prevent further expansion of ocean contamination
Because hydrogeological structure around Units 1 to 4 buildings draws a slope
evenly from mountain side to seaside, groundwater flows from mountain side to
seaside. Therefore, groundwater around the buildings would not flow out into
four directions, but always flow into the sea (Figure-2).






Taking into account the characteristics of groundwater flow at the designated
location, we have analyzed the effect of further expansion of ocean
contamination by installing water shielding wall by means of three-dimensional
flow line trace analysis.

As a result, we find that we can prevent groundwater
around the buildings from flowing into the sea by managing with ground water
drain, installing water shielding wall at the seaside (Figure-3).






In case of installing water shielding wall at the groundside, because it is not
possible to prevent groundwater from flowing from mountainside completely, it
is necessary to implement countermeasures like water shielding wall at the
seaside in order to prevent further expansion of ocean contamination.

(2) Risk of accumulated water inside the buildings flowing into groundwater
We analyzed the level of change in groundwater level around the buildings,
caused by the installation of water shielding wall, by means of
three-dimensional seepage analysis.

As a result, regarding the groundwater level around the buildings, the level
would decrease by 0 to 0.5m from current situation in case of water shielding
wall at the seaside. In case of water shielding wall at the groundside, the level
would decrease by 1 to 2 m from current situation (Figure-4).





Therefore, it is
concluded that the case installing water shielding wall at the groundwater
would increase the influence in terms of the risk of accumulated water inside the
buildings to flow out, because the possibility which the level of groundwater
would be lower that the level of accumulated water inside the building would
rise.


(3) Interference with other projects
Water shielding wall at the seawater would not interfere with the other projects
because the wall will be installed at the seaside of existing seawall. On the other
hand, water shielding wall at the groundside interferes with important facilities
and construction which aim for stabilization.

Further because it has many
difficulties in its implementation, e.g. requiring the removal and move of
existing facilities, there would be more influence by installing water shielding
wall at the groundside from points of interference with the other projects
(Figure-5).





3. Conclusion
Regarding the prevention of further expansion of ocean contamination, it is
important not to let accumulated water inside the buildings flow into
groundwater. In this sense, it is appropriate to see the water shielding wall as
the countermeasure to prevent such flow of contaminated groundwater into
ocean. We deem that we should avoid countermeasures which would increase
such risk of accumulated water inside the building to flow out.

With those aspects, after the comprehensive evaluation on the effect and
influence by installing water shielding wall at the groundside, we have reached
the conclusion that it is appropriate to address the issues only with water
shielding wall at the seaside, not combining the one at the groundside.

For the installation of the water shielding wall at the groundside, we will discuss
the matter again at an appropriate point of time, based on the progress of the
other projects.


TEPCO : Nuclear Power Station | Fukuichi Live camera



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Re: The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2013, 05:09:26 AM »
I do believe if you were to set up a ground water drain under the plant it could make the flow increase.
 
I would like to see them inject something like a concrete slurry under the entire plant area so that that land becomes so thick that the ground water diverts in another dirrection. Once the water flow is away from the plant they could drain it if needed.
 
This type of solidification is not a new practice. It is simple, cheep and fast. You can make shapes if needed to curve mountain water away or split it to sections also. Lots of tricks. to be sure Pound in a steel coffer dam all the way around and then start.
 
I like the Math model on the Ocean radiation. Some how a stir factor needs to be added. How long would it take to mix 100%. At first it should follow currents and the sides of the stream fall off and get mixed. So until that happens all over the ocean I would think the hot spots would be so much worse than the total mix that nothing could live in them. If the fish do live there, the off spring will be mutants for sure.
 
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Re: The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2013, 05:15:50 AM »
NOW would be a good time for the aliens to show up and tell us what to do.

BTW, over on the token we have some new information has appeared which would suggest that JKH can de-irradiate somewhere from a distance.

I'm chonging my way through it as we speak, and if there seems to be any useful truth I'll bring it back here, but if anyone else wants to take a look and cannot get onto the token I'll bring it over if asked.

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Re: The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2013, 09:48:36 AM »
Japans Tepco has succeeded where no other government has not.  Through their ineptness they have managed to contaminate a good portion of the world.  We see deep sea creatures coming up from the depths of the Pacific trying to get away from the radiation (I believe).  Radiated seafood in the Pacific,  radiation raining down on the Northern hemisphere,  infant mortality going up here in North America and the World Governments do nothing.  This affects us all.  THE WORLD MUST INDEED TAKE CHARGE AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE BEFORE WE ARE ALL NUKED.  We worried about atomic weapons and spent millions on defense and then the very thing that we used for possible destruction of an enemy and gives us electricity may very well kill us.

I was once a heavy proponent of nuclear power and now I am not.  It has not been regulated enough to make sure that facilities adhered to strict building and operating standards.  Inspections performed by foxes in the henhouses.  I have been studying this problem since it has happened and have been trying to get the information out there on various other forums.

Thor has done a masterful job here at Pegasus with a much deeper analysis of the situation than I could have done.  The information and analysis by Thor needs to be disseminated to a wider audience even outside the forum so that all people may benefit.  Videos online, Facebook, blogs and whatever else can be utilized.  If we reach people one person at a time, it is worth it.  As human being we want to see immediate results from the fruits of our labors, we want numbers, we want high production, we want to get the information out there.  This begins with a single step to people one by one.  Then that person will tell his or her friends and so on.

I believe that Thor's information should be disseminated more widely and the bright minds at Pegasus can make this happen.   The information for the general public would have to be less technical and in smaller bites due to the human attention span.  Think about it.  Rod
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Re: The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2013, 01:36:19 PM »
Honestly, there's not much that can be done. Fuku will be contaminating the planet for thousands of years. We can divert the water and encase the reactors and spent fuel pools, but none of this will stop contamination. It will only slow it down.

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Re: The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2013, 02:03:23 PM »
Honestly, there's not much that can be done. Fuku will be contaminating the planet for thousands of years. We can divert the water and encase the reactors and spent fuel pools, but none of this will stop contamination. It will only slow it down.

Then we must try to slow it down.
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2013, 02:25:27 PM »
What's the bloody point if they won't shut all the other ones down?

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Re: The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2013, 02:59:19 PM »
What's the bloody point if they won't shut all the other ones down?

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We don't need to give up.  If we can slow Fukushima down, at least it is the worst one for now, we can slow down the process of killing ourselves.  At least Russia buried Chernobyl.  I am not one to give up putting out the word.  I am like a mosquito that just keeps buzzing around until someone smacks me, then I get up again.  We should not give up!
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Re: The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2013, 11:23:39 PM »
In the oceans depths it might be raining dead fish. Either from the lack of food or radiation. All dead fish do not float. Some drop right to the bottom. If I was an Oar fish and my home was being bombarded by dead fish I think I would look for a new home. Besides they like fresh fish. They taste better than old dead fish.
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Re: Immaculate Deception by astr0144
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Re: bigfoot caught on sherrif's dashcam in Georgia by The Seeker
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Re: Another Roswell program making conclusions of what really happened by astr0144
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Re: Immaculate Deception by astr0144
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Re: Another Roswell program making conclusions of what really happened by petrus4
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Re: Another Roswell program making conclusions of what really happened by ArMaP
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Re: Immaculate Deception by zorgon
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Re: Immaculate Deception by zorgon
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Re: Immaculate Deception by zorgon
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Re: bigfoot caught on sherrif's dashcam in Georgia by petrus4
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Re: bigfoot caught on sherrif's dashcam in Georgia by zorgon
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Re: Another Roswell program making conclusions of what really happened by astr0144
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Re: Another Roswell program making conclusions of what really happened by ArMaP
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Another Roswell program making conclusions of what really happened by astr0144
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Re: Immaculate Deception by astr0144
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Re: Immaculate Deception by astr0144
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Re: bigfoot caught on sherrif's dashcam in Georgia by dreb13
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