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A team of scientists will embark on a voyage next week to study an “open wound” on the Atlantic seafloor
where the Earth’s deep interior lies exposed without any crust covering.

The lesion is located mid-way between the Cape Verdes Islands and the Caribbean in the Atlantic Ocean
It lies nearly 2 miles beneath the ocean surface and extends over thousands of square kilometers.

“It’s quite a substantial area,” said Chris MacLeod, a marine geologist at Cardiff University in the UK,
who will be part of the expedition.

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Earth’s tough skin

An outer crust of varying thicknesses covers most of the surface of the Earth like a shell.
The crust is about 20 miles deep beneath continents and about 4 miles deep under the ocean floor.
The Earth’s middle layer is called the mantle; it is heated by the Earth’s core and is much hotter
and softer than the crust.
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Earth’s crust is constantly being destroyed and created, and this cycle of destruction and renewal
occurs faster with ocean crust than with continental crust. New ocean floor crust forms at seams
on the Earth’s surface, called mid-oceanic ridges, where the planet’s tectonic plates meet and where
molten magma rises up from the planet’s upper mantle.

The upwelling drives seafloor spreading, which is the movement of two oceanic plates away from each other.
Oceanic crust is destroyed at so-called subduction zones where two plates collide and typically the denser one
slips beneath another plate.

This is how scientists think it works, but areas of exposed mantle on the Earth’s surface aren’t easily explained
by this theory. They are regions “where this process seems to have gone wrong somehow,”
MacLeod said. “There’s no crust formed, and instead we’ve got mantle—which is normally in the deep Earth
—on the seafloor.”
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Scientists have known about such anomalies for years, but it is only within the past decade that they have
actively begun investigating them, MacLeod said.

In 2001, MacLeod was part of a team that visited the Atlantic Ocean gash.
“We ended up answering one or two questions but posing many more,” he said. “What we’re going to do
with this expedition is try to really nail down what’s happening.”

There are two popular hypotheses about how these holes in the Earth’s crust form.
“One is that the original volcanic crust did form but that it’s been ripped away by a huge rupture,”
MacLeod told LiveScience.

MacLeod likens this process to stretching a person’s skin until it ruptures, exposing the flesh
underneath. “You take the crust and you stretch it and you pull it and pull it until it breaks,” he said.

The other idea purports that somehow the area of exposed mantle was never covered by a magma crust
in the first place.
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A rare opportunity

Regardless of how they formed, the exposed mantle provides scientists with a rare opportunity to study
the Earth’s rocky innards. Many attempts to drill deep into the planet barely get past the crust.

“One of our objectives now that we’ve got direct access to these mantle rocks is to try and look at
their internal properties and try to find out about the deep Earth process that we can’t get at directly,”
MacLeod said in a telephone interview.

Getting equipment down onto the seafloor where the exposed mantle is will be difficult, however.
“It’s a very hazardous, very unforgiving environment,” he said. “There are very steep slopes
and huge pressures. So getting samples back from these areas is challenging still.”

The team of researchers, led by Roger Searle of Durham University, will begin traveling to the site
on March 5, 2007 aboard the new UK research ship “RSS James Cook.” Over the course of about six weeks,
the team will use sonar to image the seafloor and a robotic seabed drill to collect rock cores.

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Thousands of animals were found to be frozen in a brief moment of geological time. Ancient maps
of Antarctica suggests that it too was 'frozen over' in a brief moment in time.

It has been suggested that approximately 12,000 years ago there was a displacement of the Earth's crust.
The entire outer shell of the earth moved approximately 2,000 miles. When the Earth's crust shifted
all of Antarctica was encapsulated by the polar zone. At the same time North American was His theory
is based on the theory of Continental Drift - the continents of the earth have been slowly drifting apart
over millions of years. This is possible because the outer crust of the Earth floats upon a semi-liquid layer.
The theory of Crustal Displacement states that the entire crust of the Earth can shift in one piece
like the lose skin of an orange.

Prof. Hapgood who created this theory documented three Earth crust displacements in the last 100,000 years.
Some researchers believe that they happen every 41,000 years and that the last one happened 11,500 years
ago. Hapgood believes that this cataclysmic shift is caused by imbalanced ice at the polar caps.
Over time ice builds up at the poles reaching as much as two miles in thickness, from the Arctic Circle
and became temperate.

The tremendous weight of the ice causes an imbalance on the globe.
The ice shifts dragging the outer crust and the continents in one piece to new positions.
The polar caps are now in a warmer climate where they begin to melt.
The polar regions are now in a temperate climate where they begin to melt where temperate
regions are in the polar regions where they freeze and build up ice.

Charles H. Hapgood was a history professor who began, at the prompting of some students,
to look into the search for the lost continent of Atlantis. That lead him to the ideas
of Hugh Achincloss Brown: that the entire earth could be made to be repositioned at a radically new angle
on its axis of rotation.

Hapgood realized that the entire planet did not have to be repositioned around its axis.
Only the outer crust need move, just as the loosely peeled skin of an orange could be slid around
the unmoved inner slices. This line of thinking was published in Earth's Shifting Crust (1958),
in collaboration with James H. Campbell, a mathematician-engineer.

Hapgood ultimately revised key parts of his thinking because his calculations convinced him
that the mass of the ice cap on Antarctica could not destabilize the earth's rotation.

That book was later revised and in 1970 republished as The Path of the Pole by Charles Hapgood
in which he said:

"Polar wandering is based on the idea that the outer shell of the earth shifts about from time to time,
moving some continents toward and other continents away from the poles. Continental drift is based
on the idea that the continents move individually.

A few writers have suggested that perhaps continental drift causes polar wandering.
This book advances the notion that polar wandering is primary and causes the displacement of continents.
This book will present evidence that the last shift of the earth's crust (the lithosphere) took place
in recent time, at the close of the last ice age, and that it was the cause of the improvement in climate."

Hapgood goes on to mention to two areas where he finds much of his evidence, in data derived from studies
of geomagnetism and from carbon 14 dating. Although he argued that such global disruptions
happened repeatedly, Hapgood by then was rejecting the idea that such disruptions could happen quickly.

Based primarily on that technical data, he argued that each shift took approximately five thousand years,
followed by 20 to 30 thousand year periods with no polar movements. Also, in his calculations,
the area of movement never covered more than 40 degrees. The presence of a truly liquid layer between
the core and the outer crust would allow such slippage, moderated by inertial forces.

Looking down on the current North Pole, we can identify at least 3 previous positions of the pole,
according to Hapgood. These are shown roughly by the numbered red dots below.

In his revised version, the movements to each of these positions were not cataclysmically fast
but relatively slow. Each took about 5000 years. According to his interpretation of the evidence,
after each shift the new north pole remained in place for between 20 and 30 thousand years.

If the poles shift even as little (within 40 degrees) as Hapgood argues, then the equator moves
in significant ways. This is shown below by the red lines on the paired views of the globe).
Each pair shows two views of where the equator would be, roughly, for each position of the north pole
shown above.

The changes in position are especially noticeable by where the equator cuts across the African continent
in each situation--high, diagonally or low, compared to today.

The 3 different time periods

North Pole Position #1
From the Yukon area of North America at about 80, 000 B.P. and moving east by 75,000 B.P
to the Greenland Sea.

North Pole #2
From the Greenland Sea, starting at about 55,000 B.P. and then moving south-west by 50,000 B.P.
towards what is now Hudson Bay.

North Pole #3
From the Hudson Bay area at about 17,000 P.P. and moving north to its present location by about 12,000 B.P.

If the equator shifts, the line of tropics and sub-tropics also shifts. You can see the rough locations of shifts
from deserts to 'jungles' because of equator relocations.

Notice that what is now Brazil--and the Amazon--are would be on the equator in all 3 situations.
Saudi Arabia (and its potential for oil) would be very close in each situation.

Hapgood's chart of different locations of the North pole within the last 100,000 years.


The earliest maps supposedly were written on clay tablets and come from the ancient Babylonians
around 2300BC. These maps were of land lots and were used to control taxation.
There are maps made on silk from China around the 2nd century BC.
The Mayans and Incas made maps of the territories they conquered.
In the early 1300's navigators developed maps of the Mediterranean and other known coastlines.
Finally in modern times we have perfected the art of map making and navigation.
"Only since the late 1700's has it been possible to collect & record truly accurate geographic information

There is a map called Piri Re'is - dating from 1513, which was made by a man named Piri Ibn Haji Memmed,
otherwise known as Piri Re'is. This man was an Admiral in the Turkish navy.
Today we only have a fragment of the original map.

Piri claimed:

• The map was made from approximately 20 original source maps.
• The western portion of the map was obtained from Christopher Columbus
• Some of the source maps were dated from the time of Alexander the Great
• Some of the maps were based upon mathematics - (which we know is the sacred Geometry).
Charles Hapgood performed a detailed analysis of this map. He worked with students from Keene State College,
as well as with cartographers from the US Air Force. After a detailed analysis, several interesting observations
were made.

•The map provided remarkably accurate latitude and longitude locations of coastal features of Africa,
North and South America, and a portion of Antarctica. (This point is contested by many people
and is addressed later in the section on Antarctica)

•The source maps themselves utilise the principles of plane geometry and an ability to account for the curvature
of the Earths surface
•The knowledge of longitude suggests either a people, or a mechanism, that are currently unknown to us.
(This is because the ability to determine longitude with any degree of accuracy is not known before AD 1700 (?) ).
•The map is based on an equidistant projection with its centre on the meridian of Alexandria in Egypt
Professor Hapgood presented a number of exhibits in his book, The Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings
to support these claims. He also presented a plethora of empirical evidence to back up these points.

To understand the method of projection examine the following map.
This is a section of an equidistant projection centred on Memphis Egypt.
This map was produced by the US Air Force.
Note the similar distortion of the coastline of the Americas between Piri and this map.

This map shows the superimposition of the portolan type projection on the equidistant projection.
Note that the numbers on the outside of the largest circle correspond with projection points on the map
of Piri Re'is.

The degree of accuracy contained in the Piri Re'is map is extraordinary. Given that the author of this map
himself claimed to have based this map, not on his own surveying skills, but rather on ancient maps
going back to the 1400's and earlier, serious questions about the development of navigation
as we currently understand it.

This is the Oronteus Finaeus World Map of 1532 - showing Antarctica.

Hapgood and his team converted this map from its current projection method into a modern projection method.

 Compare the above with a modern map of Antarctica to see at a glance just how close they were.

This demonstrates that sometime in the history of the earth, before at least the 1500's a sea faring people
existed that could circumnavigate the globe and accurately survey its features. Atlantis, Mammoths,
and Crustal Displacement
Rand Flem-Ath and Graham Hancock all write that an unknown advanced civilization existed on the Antarctica
continent and was destroyed by cataclysmic shifting of the crust of the Earth.

Rand and Rose Flem-Ath in their book When the Sky Fell claim that the lost advanced civilization
of Graham Hancock was Atlantis based upon a very liberal, loose, and speculative interpretation
of the myth of Atlantis as told by Plato. Regardless of whatever a person chooses to call it,
the main claim is that the remains of advanced, lost technological civilization lie buried beneath Antarctica.

One has to wonder - if such a civilization existed, why have the ruined cities, infrastructure,
and other artefacts of a lost advanced civilization that made the source maps for the Piri Reis,
Oronteus Finaeus, and Buache maps and inspired megalithic architecture not been found?

 According to Graham Hancock Fingerprints of the Gods and Rand Flem-Ath, the solution is that
the remains of this civilization lie buried beneath the Antarctic ice cap where it was destroyed and buried
by Earth crustal displacement.

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What IF...

The expanding Earth theory is true?

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What IF...

The expanding Earth theory is true?

Puts an interesting perspective on things doesn't Z ?

I am discovering some interesting thins Z..

My guess is that when the seas go through the "Trenches" the Water exists in a gaseous form
(After the "Trenches" close again due to the mechanic involving thermodynamics) as though absorbed
into rock at high temperatures.
When the Earth cools again the pressure becomes too high to be contained under the crust so it escapes
out the Ridges where the crust is pulling apart !

The gas is projected skyward then condenses and falls as rain...   :)   A hell of a lot of rain...   :)

I'm starting to understand the Possible mechanics, involving "Thermodynamics" and I find it fascinating
to say the least.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2013, 09:01:43 PM by The Matrix Traveller »

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Yeah it does BUT  where did all the water come from?

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You beat me to it see my above thoughts...

The whole damn thing is Cyclic.

From an engineering point of view things are becoming much clearer.

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The Earth is acting like a "thermal engine".... Involving Thermodynamics...  LOL.

The Trenches and the Ridges behave like valves...  LOL.

The Seas enter the Trenches (one Valve) and exit the Ridges (The other Valve)

And it is all driven thermally, involving thermal interactions....  LOL.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2013, 09:07:43 PM by The Matrix Traveller »

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With the information I have found so far and a little Engineering knowledge, I am now able
to make up an animation to show the workings of the Earth, acting as a Thermal Converter
or Thermal Motor.

It will take a couple of Days, but I believe it is worth doing, and with a written description.

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what yall are saying sounds very reasonable.ill throw this in.maybe the water was here all along.but in human time period there was ground like florida.lime stone that desolved and made massive caverns .a meteor or giant quake rocked the planet and like collapsed like dominoes.ground sank everywhere at once.forcing the water to the surface.these giant caves were created by carbolic acid from co2 in the water.this co2 has been trapped in oil and gas reserves that is now being released.unless we trap this carbon somehow.the cycle will repeat.
just a theory
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.


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Today I am working on an article to show what I have found and perhaps both records in ancient writings
regarding these events.

I will also explain more about water.

I can guarantee the Earth is driven by and involving thermodynamics which recycles the rubbish
collected on its surface such as the result of human behaviour.

The Earth relocates its Seas from one side of its crust to the other back and forth over a cycle of some thousand years. Possibly the full cycle takes about 10,000 years but this may vary.

But anyway I will explain each stage of this cycle with pictures and script with an animation to follow.

I honestly don't know WHY I didn't pick up on this earlier I guess I was blind....  LOL.

Once seen it is very simple to understand the process.   :)

Check out "Carnot's Cycle" to get a little understanding of the thermodynamics involved.

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What IF...

The expanding Earth theory is true?

This has been my personal thought for some time now 'Z', it is the most 'Relevant' to all explanations. As the Mass increases, Gravitational forces from out side our world are at greater potential.

Though we have discussed these scenario's many times before with the Global Warming crowds, I don't think they quite understand all that the Mechanics of the Universe en-tales as far as evolutionary  process of a planet or a Galaxy for that matter. I would have continued pulling up pertinent Data supporting this, but then it is turned into a Troll fest for those that can't see these proof's for what they truly are.

@ Matrix:
Check this out, it is one of those things you expect to find when we experience same fault line tectonic movements. And in all actuality is the smoking gun for something remarkable happening somewhere on our planet beneath the sea.

Satellites glimpse ultra-powerful “black hole” whirlpools in Atlantic

This can only be happening from tremendous vacuum/Displacement forces, from what I understand about the physics or dynamics of Earth. But, then again, I am only reading what science's keep telling us and finding with in such unpredictable fields of understanding such as tectonic movements, Earth Quakes, Tsunami's, etc. etc.

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Ah Dynamics...    :)

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Loved the movie/s Z .... LOL

I am still working on an article I am writing explaining the workings of Plate Tectonics involving
the relocating of the seas in cyclic behaviour.

Just as our heat Engines i.e. Internal combustion engines such as jet engines, petrol and diesel engines
are based on today so too plate tectonics and the relocation of the seas is based on similar principles,
involving "thermodynamics".

Instead of the oxidising fuel (a Chemical process) being used the Heat Source is the interior
of the Earth itself.

The inner of the Earth provides the Hot Cycle while the Atmosphere provides the Cold Cycle.

Everyday examples;

Examples of everyday heat engines include the steam engine, the diesel engine, and the gasoline
(petrol) engine in an automobile. A common toy that is also a heat engine is a drinking bird.
Also the stirling engine is a heat engine. All of these familiar heat engines are powered by the expansion
of heated gases. The general surroundings are the heat sink, providing relatively cool gases which,
when heated, expand rapidly to drive the mechanical motion of the engine.

Nitrogen is the media used in an internal combustion engine, and the fuel + Oxygen provides the heat source.

The Cold Cycle in an internal Combustion engine is the Exhaust and Intake cycles.

The Hot Cycle is the transfer of Energy from the burn (Chemical Process) into the Nitrogen which can't burn,
and it is this expanding Nitrogen, which pushes the piston down, turning the Crankshaft.

Between these 2 sets of Cycles is what is called the "Insulation mode".

So we have. The Intake, an adiabatic expansion during the "Insulation Mode", the burn, (Hot cycle)
then the exhaust & intake, (the "Cold cycle") then back to that 1st adiabatic expansion,
during the "Insulation mode".

The opening of the trenches is like the "Intake Valve" system and the Oceanic ridges and land ridges
behave like the "Exhaust valve".

The Hot Cycle takes place in the Earth and the Cold Cycle on the upper side of the Earth's Crust.

The rock "Olivine", is the one which stores the water under the crust in the upper mantle.

Here is a statement made by one scientist.

Hydration of Deep Mantle Olivine Presented by: Spencer Salmon

Olivine in the Mantle
•? In just the upper 410 km olivine could contain the volume of the ocean in water
•? More pressure and temperature means more storage capacity

Added text;

"Volcanoes" and "Volcanic Vents" I think you will find, act as "Pressure Control Valves" on both the Intake & Exhaust.

Volcanoes on the Intake (Trenches) and Volcanic Vents (along Ridges) on the Exhaust.
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I am now about 70% of they way through writing an article, explaining the mechanics behind the Cyclic
relocating of the Seas, which has happened many times before in the past.

I hope to post it here in a couple of days...    :) USA, LLC
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