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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2018, 10:16:40 PM »


well this  should be interesting to see how it is established as fake or not..

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42560688

Emmanuel Macron: French president announces 'fake news' law
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French President Emmanuel Macron has announced plans for a new law to combat so-called fake news.

He said that during elections social media would face tougher rules over the content that they put online.

Deliberate attempts were being made to blur lines between truth and lies and undermine people's faith in liberal democracy, he added.

Correspondents say there is no question that Mr Macron had Russia in mind when he made the announcement.

He has already spoken out publicly about what he sees as Moscow's attempts to manipulate opinion in Europe and the United States.

>How fake news plagued 2017
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'Protect democracy'
Speaking at a new year reception for the media, Mr Macron said it was possible now at a cost of just a few thousand euros to propagate untruths over social media.

"Thousands of propaganda accounts on social networks are spreading all over the world, in all languages, lies invented to tarnish political officials, personalities, public figures, journalists," he said.

In response, he proposed imposing tougher rules on social media about revealing the sources of apparent news content.

He also said limits would be put on how much could be spent on sponsored news material.

"We will develop our legal system to protect democracy from this fake news," he said, quoted by AFP.

France's audiovisual regulator would be given extra powers to "fight any destabilisation attempt by television channels controlled or influenced by foreign states", he added.

Mr Macron denounced Russia media outlets RT and Sputnik at a joint news conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin last May, accusing them of spreading "deceitful propaganda".

Since then RT has launched a French-language TV channel.

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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2018, 07:07:32 AM »

well this  should be interesting to see how it is established as fake or not..
The only thing I think can be done without turning into censorship and, because of what he said, I think they are thinking about, is to make a clear distinction between personal opinions and paid space, as it appears that paid posts were the (supposed) problem.

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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2018, 08:41:17 AM »


i agree with you Armap
but i was wondering how strongly they planned on inforceing their law..
will they do background checks on single names to make sure that they are opinions and not planted comments. ?

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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2018, 10:58:12 AM »
The French were suckers and fools to trust Macron.  It's just another, 'vote for any one you want, get the same result'. 

Note the usual propaganda about Russian news. Meanwhile, the US violates international law, builds bases in Syria, helps terrorists, wrecks Libya and then claims to have defeated ISIS after Russia actually finished them.  Maybe Macron is some Vichy official who got reincarnated.

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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2018, 02:29:40 PM »

while i don't feel this is 'fake news' per se..it is about fake news
it isn't fake news because it is

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The charges brought by Special Counsel Robert Mueller are seen as a major development in his continuing probe into the US 2016 election.
i feel the bbc is the least bias and the article is verrrrrrry interesting regardless of what polictial feelings you have
i think it tells us, that if nothing else.
beware : qualify your source : do more research


the entire article is worth the time and can be found at the link


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43095881


What does the indictment say?

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said there was no allegation that any American was "a knowing participant in this illegal activity" nor was it alleged that the meddling altered the election outcome.

Three of the people named have also been accused of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and five have been accused of aggravated identity theft. Three companies have also been charged.

The 37-page indictment says a group of Russians:

Posed as Americans, and opened financial accounts in their name; some visited the US
Spent thousands of dollars a month buying political advertising
Purchased US server space in an effort to hide their Russian affiliation

Organised and promoted political rallies within the United States

Posted political messages on social media accounts that impersonated real US citizens

Promoted information that disparaged Hillary Clinton

Received money from clients to post on US social media sites

Created themed groups on social media on hot-button issues, particularly on Facebook and Instagram

Operated with a monthly budget of as much as $1.25m (£890,000)

Financed the building of a cage large enough to hold an actress portraying Hillary Clinton in a prison uniform

The indictment says those involved systematically monitored the success of their internet posts.

and who is to say that other countries  haven't done the same
after all there are groups in this country that carry out the same 'attempt at influencing' under many names



some other links

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43091945
Russia-Trump inquiry: Full text of Mueller's indictment
16 February 2018


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40709270
Russia-Trump: Who's who in the drama to end all dramas?
23 January 2018


http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43093390
The tactics of a Russian troll farm
16 February 2018


i think the most telling quote is this one:
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"The Americans are very impressionable people, they see what they want to see...," he was quoted as saying by Russian news agency Ria Novosti on Friday. "I'm not at all upset that I'm on this list. If they want to see the devil, let them see him."
opps forgot to add who was being quoted
Yevgeny Prigozhin, known as "Putin's chef"




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« Last Edit: February 17, 2018, 02:32:22 PM by space otter »

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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2018, 06:55:12 AM »
Posed as Americans, and opened financial accounts in their name; some visited the US
I suppose that's the only possibility for an illegal action, if they used real people's identities, which I doubt.

 


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