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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #150 on: June 13, 2013, 01:37:43 AM »
ACLU sues Obama administration over NSA surveillance

http://videos.huffingtonpost.com/aclu-sues-over-nsa-phone-records-program-517814133

http://videos.huffingtonpost.com/aclu-sues-obama-administration-over-phone-surveillance-517814178


David Jackson, USA TODAY 6:47 p.m. EDT June 11, 2013

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National Security Agency surveillance programs came under more scrutiny Tuesday as the American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit and a prominent senator and Internet giant Google called on the Obama administration to disclose more information.

In its lawsuit, the ACLU said an NSA program that harvests phone calls violates the rights of all Americans.

"The program goes far beyond even the permissive limits set by the Patriot Act and represents a gross infringement of the freedom of association and the right to privacy," said Jameel Jaffer, the ACLU's deputy legal director.

Meanwhile, Google sought permission to disclose more details about another contested NSA program, one that allows the government to collect online information from non-U.S. citizens.

And Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., who chairs the Senate Intelligence Committee, told reporters she has asked Gen. Keith Alexander — the head of the NSA and U.S. Cyber Command — to declassify more information about its phone and Internet surveillance programs.

The goal is "so that we can talk about them, because I think they're really helpful," she said.

The Guardian and Washington Post disclosed these programs last week, based on leaks from a former NSA contract employee.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/06/11/obama-aclu-lawsuit-national-security-agency-surveillance/2412885/


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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #151 on: June 13, 2013, 01:42:39 AM »
Daniel Ellsberg On NSA Spying: 'We're A Turnkey Away From A Police State'



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BERKELEY, Calif. -- Famed Pentagon Papers leaker Daniel Ellsberg had harsh words for the Obama Administration during an event here Tuesday evening, charging that the rapid expansion of government surveillance since 9/11 has left the country "a turnkey away from a police state."

"We're not a police state yet, but the foundation has been set," he continued. "It could happen overnight."

Ellsberg, 82, is a former military analyst who became one of the most famous men in America when he leaked a top-secret government report on the Vietnam War to The New York Times in 1971. He has since been a patron saint to the civil liberties movement and is viewed by many as a predecessor of modern-day leakers like Bradley Manning and now Edward Snowden, the man who recently released evidence of the National Security Agency's covert phone records collection and Internet data mining.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/12/daniel-ellsberg-nsa-spying_n_3429694.html

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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #152 on: June 13, 2013, 01:45:14 AM »
So....

This guy made $200,000  a year for snooping on "We the peeps...
?

Where does I sign up?

 ::)

And now he is a hero for telling people what us poor conspiracy nuts have been saying and showing for over two decades

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it's no so huge monies :) + his payroll was $122k per annum, afaik.
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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #153 on: June 13, 2013, 02:17:19 AM »
it's no so huge monies :) + his payroll was $122k per annum, afaik.

Well its more than I have :P and I have been spying ion the spooks for free :D

Nice to see you back :D

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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #154 on: June 13, 2013, 05:24:08 AM »
ive made 10000$ a month before.i can vouche.life is sweet.now i make 10000$a year and life almost sux bigtime.
that is the true haves and have nots.
thats why most wont ever leave the nsa.
i guess at the rate we are going,daddy when i grow up,i want to be government shill.
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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #155 on: June 13, 2013, 08:03:51 AM »
Clapper told some senate investigative committee, when asked if the NSA will be spying on citizens, no they will not, clapper responds.

SURPRISE!, yes they will. How they get around that question is they contract the spying out and simply inhale the information to a database program.
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« Reply #156 on: June 13, 2013, 10:19:46 AM »
A few years ago it was revealed that here in the UK at listening stations like Menwith hill & RAF irton moor where the echelon data mining computers/software are housed.

TPTB got really rich abusing the system to listen in on competing companies and there clients. They took the data they got and made Billions using insider Trading help.

I'm sure I read the people involved also used the computing power to play the stock markets to make even more cash.

One such company we're ENRON.Just read how they lived it up! obscene really.

I find it hard to believe this practice ever ceased!

Skipped a lot of the post's so sorry if it's been posted about.

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Menwith Hill it's so big it's actually a self contained village. UK owned and UK civilian residents help alongside the USA who RUN the site for the likes of NSA & GEOINT (space spooks).




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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #157 on: June 13, 2013, 01:57:34 PM »


no fat lady singin yet...



Loretta Sanchez, Dem Rep, Says NSA Revelations Only 'The Tip Of The Iceberg' (VIDEO)
The Huffington Post  |  By Melissa Jeltsen Posted: 06/13/2013 4:11 pm EDT  |  Updated: 06/13/2013 4:16 pm EDT

Loretta Sanchez, Dem Rep, Says NSA Revelations Only 'The Tip Of The Iceberg' (VIDEO)
The Huffington Post  |  By Melissa Jeltsen Posted: 06/13/2013 4:11 pm EDT  |  Updated: 06/13/2013 4:16 pm EDT

Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif.) warned that the recent revelations on the government's clandestine national surveillance programs, brought to light by an NSA whistleblower, are just the "tip of the iceberg."
Sanchez spoke to CSPAN's "Washington Journal"
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/313247-4

 on Wednesday, after attending a briefing Tuesday with intelligence officials. While she said she couldn't repeat much of what she and other House members were told, she said they learned "significantly more" than what is currently being reported in the media.

"I believe it's just the tip of the iceberg," she said.

Last week, The Guardian published a bombshell report
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order

 detailing how the U.S. government has been secretly collecting phone and Internet data. Edward Snowden, who came out as the individual responsible for the explosive leaks, is currently hiding in Hong Kong.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/13/edward-snowden-nsa_n_3433011.html

"I think it's just broader than most people even realize," Sanchez went on.

(h/t The Hill)

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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #158 on: June 15, 2013, 02:19:35 AM »

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« Reply #159 on: June 15, 2013, 02:44:55 AM »
Old article but VERY interesting...

How NSA access was built into Windows
 Duncan Campbell 04.09.1999


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A CARELESS mistake by Microsoft programmers has revealed that special access codes prepared by the US National Security Agency have been secretly built into Windows. The NSA access system is built into every version of the Windows operating system now in use, except early releases of Windows 95 (and its predecessors). The discovery comes close on the heels of the revelations earlier this year that another US software giant, Lotus, had built an NSA "help information" trapdoor into its Notes system, and that security functions on other software systems had been deliberately crippled.

The first discovery of the new NSA access system was made two years ago by British researcher Dr Nicko van Someren. But it was only a few weeks ago when a second researcher rediscovered the access system. With it, he found the evidence linking it to NSA.

Computer security specialists have been aware for two years that unusual features are contained inside a standard Windows software "driver" used for security and encryption functions. The driver, called ADVAPI.DLL, enables and controls a range of security functions. If you use Windows, you will find it in the C:\Windows\system directory of your computer.

http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/5/5263/1.html

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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #160 on: June 15, 2013, 02:45:13 AM »

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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #161 on: June 16, 2013, 06:38:44 AM »


in the beginning there was this...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


U.S. surveillance architecture includes collection of revealing Internet, phone metadata
848Share to FacebookShare on TwitterAdd to PersonalPostSave to KindleShare via EmailPrint ArticleMoreBy Barton Gellman, Barton Gellman Jun 16, 2013 12:59 AM EDT


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On March 12, 2004, acting attorney general James B. Comey
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/comey-in-line-to-become-fbi-director-officials-say/2013/05/29/7a730b0a-c8af-11e2-9f1a-1a7cdee20287_story.html
and the Justice Department’s top leadership reached the brink of resignation over electronic surveillance orders that they believed to be illegal.

President George W. Bush backed down, halting secret foreign-
intelligence-gathering operations that had crossed into domestic terrain. That morning marked the beginning of the end of STELLARWIND, the cover name for a set of four surveillance programs that brought Americans and American territory within the domain of the National Security Agency for the first time in decades. It was also a prelude to new legal structures that allowed Bush and then President Obama to reproduce each of those programs and expand their reach.

What exactly STELLARWIND did has never been disclosed in an unclassified form. Which parts of it did Comey approve? Which did he shut down? What became of the programs when the crisis passed and Comey, now Obama’s expected nominee for FBI director, returned to private life?

Authoritative new answers to those questions, drawing upon a classified NSA history of STELLARWIND and interviews with high-ranking intelligence officials, offer the clearest map yet of the Bush-era programs and the NSA’s contemporary U.S. operations.

STELLARWIND was succeeded by four major lines of intelligence collection in the territorial United States, together capable of spanning the full range of modern telecommunications, according to the interviews and documents.

Foreigners, not Americans, are the NSA’s “targets,” as the law defines that term. But the programs are structured broadly enough that they touch nearly every American household in some way. Obama administration officials and career intelligence officers say Americans should take comfort that privacy protections are built into the design and oversight, but they are not prepared to discuss the details.

The White House, the NSA and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment on the record for this article. A senior intelligence official agreed to answer questions if not identified.

“We have rich oversight across three branches of government. I’ve got an [inspector general] here, a fairly robust legal staff here .?.?. and there’s the Justice Department’s national security division,” the official said. “For those things done under court jurisdiction, the courts are intrusive in my business, appropriately so, and there are two congressional committees. It’s a belts-and-suspenders-and-Velcro approach, and inside there’s rich auditing.”

But privacy advocates, such as Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), said the intelligence committee on which he serves needs “straight answers” to do vigorous oversight.

He added: “The typical person says, ‘If I am law-abiding and the government is out there collecting lots of information about me — who I call, when I call, where I call from’ .?.?. I think the typical person is going to say, ‘That sure sounds like it could have some effect on my privacy.’?”

Two of the four collection programs, one each for telephony and the Internet, process trillions of “metadata” records for storage and analysis in systems called MAINWAY
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/call-records-of-fewer-than-300-people-were-searched-in-2012-us-says/2013/06/15/5e611cee-d61b-11e2-a73e-826d299ff459_story.html
and MARINA, respectively.

 Metadata
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/metadata-reveals-the-secrets-of-social-position-company-hierarchy-terrorist-cells/2013/06/15/5058647c-d5c1-11e2-a73e-826d299ff459_story.html
includes highly revealing information about the times, places, devices and participants in electronic communication, but not its contents. The bulk collection of telephone call records from Verizon Business Services, disclosed this month by the British newspaper the Guardian, is one source of raw intelligence for MAINWAY.


The other two types of collection, which operate on a much smaller scale, are aimed at content. One of them intercepts telephone calls and routes the spoken words to a system called ­NUCLEON.

For Internet content, the most important source collection is the PRISM project

http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html

 reported on June 6 by The Washington Post and the Guardian. It draws from data held by Google, Yahoo, Microsoft and other Silicon Valley giants, collectively the richest depositories of personal information in history.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-surveillance-architecture-includes-collection-of-revealing-internet-phone-metadata/2013/06/15/e9bf004a-d511-11e2-b05f-3ea3f0e7bb5a_story_1.html

Former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, 29, who unmasked himself as the source behind the PRISM and Verizon revelations, said he hoped for a systematic debate about the “danger to our freedom and way of life” posed by a surveillance apparatus “kept in check by nothing more than policy.”

For well over a week, he has had his wish. Startling disclosures have poured out of the nation’s largest and arguably tightest-lipped spy agency at an unprecedented pace. Snowden’s disclosures have opened a national conversation about the limits of secret surveillance in a free society and an outcry overseas against U.S. espionage.

The debate has focused on two of the four U.S.-based collection programs: PRISM, for Internet content, and the comprehensive collection of telephone call records, foreign and domestic, that the Guardian revealed by posting a classified order from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to Verizon Business Services.

The Post has learned that similar orders have been renewed every three months for other large U.S. phone companies, including Bell South and AT&T, since May 24, 2006. On that day, the surveillance court made a fundamental shift in its approach to Section 215 of the Patriot Act, which permits the FBI to compel production of “business records” that are relevant to a particular terrorism investigation and to share those in some circumstances with the NSA. Henceforth, the court ruled, it would define the relevant business records as the entirety of a telephone company’s call database.

The Bush administration, by then, had been taking “bulk metadata” from the phone companies under voluntary agreements for more than four years. The volume of information overwhelmed the MAINWAY database, according to a classified report from the NSA inspector general in 2009. The agency spent $146 million in supplemental counterterrorism funds to buy new hardware and contract support — and to make unspecified payments to the phone companies for “collaborative partnerships.”

When the New York Times revealed the warrantless surveillance of voice calls, in December 2005, the telephone companies got nervous. One of them, unnamed in the report, approached the NSA with a request. Rather than volunteer the data, at a price, the “provider preferred to be compelled to do so by a court order,” the report said. Other companies followed suit. The surveillance court order that recast the meaning of business records “essentially gave NSA the same authority to collect bulk telephony metadata from business records that it had” under Bush’s asserted authority alone.






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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #162 on: June 16, 2013, 07:33:02 AM »
Daniel Ellsberg On NSA Spying: 'We're A Turnkey Away From A Police State'


really?



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« Reply #163 on: June 16, 2013, 08:26:24 AM »
maybe but i saw a post somewhere else that said thatvsnowden hasnt revealed anything.
i would say the politicians and the msm has released all the secret info so far.snowden has just consolidated it and repeated it.

thats why im very sceptical of the whole situation.plus this distracts us from irs ,bengaz,i ap reporters ,fast and furious ,to infinity and beyond at this rate.
and really pissed off our allies citizens.

then you add in that israel is being paid to spy on us.really?
time to send somebody packin along with israel.a bunch of fleas suckin the life out of this country.germany 2.0   .

never forget uss liberty.what kinda fools are running our country?
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« Reply #164 on: June 16, 2013, 08:46:19 AM »

then you add in that israel is being paid to spy on us.really?
time to send somebody packin along with israel.a bunch of fleas suckin the life out of this country.germany 2.0   .


In Canada I believe we are also being spied on by Israel, My internet service provider uses an active firewall/antivirus so I wanted to know what it was they used. I contacted a buddy of mine that says they use ZONEALARM which is an ACTIVE antivirus program meaning it always is being monitored by a server.

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Check Point was established in Ramat-Gan, Israel in 1993, by Gil Shwed (Chairman and CEO as of 2012[update]), Marius Nacht (Vice Chairman as of 2012[update]) and Shlomo Kramer (who left Check Point in 2003). Shwed had the initial idea for the company’s core technology known as stateful inspection, which became the foundation for the company's first product, FireWall-1; soon afterwards they also developed one of the world’s first VPN products, VPN-1.[2] Shwed developed the idea while serving in the Israel Defense Forces, where he worked on securing classified networks. [3][4]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_Labs
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