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Offline ArMaP

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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #90 on: June 10, 2013, 04:01:53 PM »
Of course, Obama will try to make the story "about the whistleblower", and not take responsibility of the wholesale spying upon all Americans by his administration et al they all work for him - Justice, NSA, FBI, IRS, State, Treasur, etc.
They do not work for Obama, they work for whoever runs the country. :)

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« Reply #91 on: June 10, 2013, 05:00:04 PM »
Well first we had Echelon running the PROMIS program ...

Now we have PRISM.

Is it just me or is PRISM a newer version of PROMIS ?  a rhetorical question.

Michael Riconosciuto is an interesting person to search for .. as is the late Danny Casolaro.

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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #92 on: June 10, 2013, 05:41:56 PM »
Well first we had Echelon running the PROMIS program ...

Now we have PRISM.

Is it just me or is PRISM a newer version of PROMIS ?  a rhetorical question.

Michael Riconosciuto is an interesting person to search for .. as is the late Danny Casolaro.

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Michael Riconosciuto is a very very interesting guy. So interesting in fact, the tptb had to put him away in prison till 2024. This guy is not just some guy and from what I have gathered, he may not be human.

Danny Casolaro is dead but Michael Riconosciuto is not. That man and his ilk are suspiciously untouchable. Most of those who worked with MR are dead but some are not.

Cabazon indian reservation was their play ground in the 80s and the chief and several friends were murdered while sitting out in their yard by a guy we know now was the head of security at the Cabazon casino. This guy, James Hughes, got away, went to south america and lived for 20 some years till they got him in miami on a warrant.

This guy was sought by the daughter of one of those murdered and she knew he did it but law enforcement would not go after him till some years ago.

James Hughes confessed to murdering those three people on the Cabazon reservation and they let him go. Imagine that in the world of spooks.

Another good read is called the last circle by sherrie seymour where even more names like spooky John Nickles come out of the wood work. Google that title and its online to be read for free. Talk about spooky and spooks, its in there.


http://aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.com/2009/10/octopus-murders-victims-daughter.html


To read online sherries book the last circle: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/last_circle/0.htm
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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #93 on: June 10, 2013, 05:47:02 PM »
They do not work for Obama, they work for whoever runs the country. :)

That is a very incorrect statement. The President is like the CEO of any corporation. The "CEO" is ultimately held responsible, by the board of the corporation, for everything that happens relative to the corporation's conduct of business. Any President should receive the same consideration for the good or bad execution of the Executive Branch of the Government.

I am going to try to post a link to an organizational chart for you that depicts the President's areas of responsibilities.

In most of the US gov. org. charts I have looked at, it is noticeable that "The Constitution" is the top box on the chart, being the "head" of our country's government.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/rob_goodspeed/3020963540/
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« Reply #94 on: June 10, 2013, 05:47:42 PM »
YES IT DOES HAVE A REAL AND LASTING EFFECT!

This crap represents direct violations of what is in our Constitution and in our Bill of Rights. These are foundational documents for this country, and they do not change every time someone has a different idea about how they think it should be. All elected officials are in office to "uphold the Constitution", and that doesn't allow government to take actions that violate it and impinge upon the rights of we the people.

Might point out that it does not stipulate whether it is the original constitution or the CORPORATE constitution that nullified the original in 1871:

http://www.dailypaul.com/138686/the-act-of-1871-is-this-the-source-of-all-our-problems

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The following article explains how the original
"Constitution for the united states for America"
was in 1871, changed to the
"THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA".

If this impostor is the source of our modern day problems, repealing it could be the simple solution as well.

I am a neophyte of this topic but find it most interesting. Hopefully, some other DPs will help confirm the accuracy of this historical event and bring additional understanding to the fore.

Excerpt:
The Congress realized our country was in dire financial straits, so they cut a deal with the international bankers — (in those days, the Rothschilds of London were dipping their fingers into everyone's pie) thereby incurring a DEBT to said bankers.

If we think about banks, we know they do not just lend us money out of the goodness of their hearts. A bank will not do anything for you unless it is entirely in their best interest to do so. There has to be some sort of collateral or some string attached which puts you and me (the borrower) into a subservient position. This was true back in 1871 as well.

The conniving international bankers were not about to lend our floundering nation any money without some serious stipulations. So, they devised a brilliant way of getting their foot in the door of the United States (a prize they had coveted for some time, but had been unable to grasp thanks to our Founding Fathers, who despised them and held them in check), and thus, the Act of 1871 was passed.

In essence, this Act formed the corporation known as THE UNITED STATES. Note the capitalization, because it is important. This corporation, owned by foreign interests, moved right in and shoved the original "organic" version of the Constitution into a dusty corner. With the "Act of 1871," our Constitution was defaced in the sense that the title was block-capitalized and the word "for" was changed to the word "of" in the title. The original Constitution drafted by the Founding Fathers, was written in this manner:

"The Constitution for the united states of America".

http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm
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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #95 on: June 10, 2013, 05:57:21 PM »
That is a very incorrect statement.
What I meant was that today is Obama, after him it will be someone else.

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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #96 on: June 10, 2013, 06:20:47 PM »
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osoF7nzSy2A[/youtube]

Enjoy...   :)

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« Reply #97 on: June 10, 2013, 06:23:34 PM »
Might point out that it does not stipulate whether it is the original constitution or the CORPORATE constitution that nullified the original in 1871:

That matters not. While it does seem to bother just a few, The Constitution is the Constitution! We have plenty of people well versed in all aspect of the Constitution and Constitutional Law, so no need to be concerned with whatever theorists might try to throw around in this regard. There are certain areas in our government that do need to be eliminated, like the Federal Reserve, and the IRS, etc.. But such action will simply be a matter of doing the things necessary to "gitter done"! :))

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« Reply #98 on: June 10, 2013, 06:26:39 PM »
Might point out that it does not stipulate whether it is the original constitution or the CORPORATE constitution that nullified the original in 1871:

That matters not. While it does seem to bother just a few, The Constitution is the Constitution! We have plenty of people well versed in all aspect of the Constitution and Constitutional Law, so no need to be concerned with whatever theorists might try to throw around in this regard. There are certain areas in our government that do need to be eliminated, like the Federal Reserve, and the IRS, etc.. But such action will simply be a matter of doing the things necessary to "gitter done"! :))

What do You mean, "That matters not???"  The Constitution as originally written is GONE.  And if You take oath to "protect the constitution," and the constitution is NOT the one everyOne THINKS it is...  Yeah.  It MATTERS.
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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #99 on: June 10, 2013, 06:28:16 PM »
The English "Yes Minister" Series puts any PM in its true Context... Tongue in Cheek..

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=osoF7nzSy2A[/youtube]

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« Reply #100 on: June 10, 2013, 07:14:42 PM »
What do You mean, "That matters not???"  The Constitution as originally written is GONE.  And if You take oath to "protect the constitution," and the constitution is NOT the one everyOne THINKS it is...  Yeah.  It MATTERS.

Prove it with indisputable proof! Not just someones theory about this and that. At the present, I flat do not accept this theory, that all has changed, other than what changed about Washington D.C., by this act. And most on the internet that I looked at do not accept the Act as being any sort of real problem either.

Many things are wrong with our government, but it is not because the Constitution has been nulled and voided, because it definitely has not been!!

Talk with someone who really knows what they are talking about, relative to the Constitution!! I wouldn't bother listening to unlearned conspiracy theorists on the subject of the Constitution.

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« Reply #101 on: June 10, 2013, 07:34:09 PM »
Matrix, that is a funny video :D - funny only because it depicts just how stupid people can be in situational mechanics. And this video pretty well covers the intended various scenarios - from disinterested, to good, to bad, to how can I not interfere with my potential promotion, and to being analyzed with whiskey, on the couch.

Watching man in the role of life can be a real hoot, and at the same time be very sad, knowing how the story of man ends.

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Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #102 on: June 10, 2013, 07:40:13 PM »
Talk with someone who really knows what they are talking about, relative to the Constitution!! I wouldn't bother listening to unlearned conspiracy theorists on the subject of the Constitution.

Obama would likely never formally rescind the Constitution; anyone who did would be suicidal, at least before the Vietnam generation are extinct.  After that it probably won't matter.

Formal Constitutional suspension, however, is entirely unnecessary.  Laws already exist on the books, which are entirely capable of overriding everything it grants in practice; at which point it becomes irrelevant.

Rdunk, you currently have a government which knows only one law; superior force.  There have been members of the police talking about the possibility of Constitutional suspension in certain cases, even if Obama himself hasn't.  The reason why cops can talk about that, however, is because America is now a country where police can kill people and get away with it.

Again, you can talk about what laws are or are not theoretically on the books, as much as you want.  As far as the Obama administration is concerned, the law does not matter.  It will do whatever it wants to do, and most of the time it will get away with it, because the American population are too busy watching porn or cat videos, telling themselves that they are powerless, or engaging in mindless, reflexive worship of the military to do anything about it.

[youtube]MtN1YnoL46Q[/youtube]

This video is a good example, of what has replaced political debate or oversight in contemporary Western society.  We are cowardly, morally degenerate 4 year olds, for the most part; and the rare exceptions who exist, like Snowden or Bradley Manning, simply end up dead.

There is your vaunted Constitutional Republic.
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« Reply #103 on: June 10, 2013, 07:59:52 PM »
Actually Petrus4, I believe you and we are only beginning to see the very scratchings on the surface, for what this country can do, when the people decide that something must be done.

That which we have seen to be started in just the past few weeks is pretty amazing. As Drudge said today, "Every day a new scandal"! Even some of the mainstream news sources are beginning to directly make anti-administration comments. The people are getting very involved, and will more and more as this develops. Even I have sent specific messages to "involved" senators and congressmen, as I am certain others are doing.

The outcomes are going to get even more interesting! There is already a strong voice for the elimination of the IRS. And that might just be a good first step!! Lots of "steps" need to be taken to get this country back to where we need it to be.

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« Reply #104 on: June 10, 2013, 10:17:12 PM »
Kentucky Senator Rand Paul calling the spying an astounding
assault on The Constitution.

[youtube]-5lgvxcMkS4[/youtube]


Paul sees this just the opposite of Obama, who describes the
latest spy scandal a modest encroachments on privacy.
What does Obama know about modesty?  >:(

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"I'm going to be seeing if I can challenge this at the Supreme Court level," Paul said.
 
"I'm going to be asking all the internet providers and all of the phone companies: ask your customers to join me in a class action lawsuit," Paul told host Chris Wallace. "If we get ten million Americans saying we don't want our phone records looked at, then maybe someone will wake up and something will change in Washington."
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/06/rand-paul-calls-of-mass-class-action.html?m=1

Help him reach his 10 million signatures, join the class action suit!

http://randpaul2016.com. help him reach ten million signatures!
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