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U.S. Navy caught in Titanic lie!
« on: March 05, 2013, 01:49:23 PM »
  John Lear

U.S. Navy caught in Titanic lie!



It was recently discovered that the U.S. Navy had discovered the location of the Titanic 3 years before the official announcement by Ballard.

For 3 years the U.S. Navy explored for in some cases secret artifacts and documents that had gone down with the Titanic in 1912.

It is not clear what those documents or artifacts were or why it was necessary to keep the search secret for 3 years.

When the public got their first look, it was said that the videos were the first taken since the sinking. But in fact the Navy had had approximately 36 months to search the vessel.

In addition to the lie of when the Titanic was really found another lie was perpetrated when the U.S. Navy asked underwater archeologist Robert Ballard to photograph the alleged remains of the U. S. nuclear submarine Scorpion (SSN-589) near the Azores, allegedly found by ‘a little-known Naval Research Laboratory scientist named Chester "Buck" Buchanan, using a towed camera sled of his own design aboard Mizar.’ Wikipedia’.

The real story, according to John Lear, is that both the Scorpion and the Thresher (SSN-593) were lost on highly secret missions to explore under the western U.S. geological plate.

The entire western U.S. sits on a plate supported by the Pacific Ocean and from several entrances along the western coastline, one being Moss Landing north of Ft. Ord this vast area allows submarines to transit to various bases in Washington, Idaho, Oregon, Nevada, California and Arizona.

Although Ft. Ord was officially closed in 1994 there are rumors of extensive underground tunnels and facilities.

Submarines have been seen at China Lake Naval Air Station, Lake Tahoe, Pyramid Lake, Sand Point and other western U.S. Navy bases.

 Another possible location sub base location is Las Vegas in what was formerly called the U.S. Navy Lake Mead Naval Station (or, Las Vegas Marine Corps Naval Base) at or near Nellis Air Force Base.

The Navy Base at Las Vegas was located northeast of Nellis AFB and may still be operational. A few years ago there was extensive excavation in this location. Helicopters patrolled the area and kept intruders out with a bullhorn.

Not all bases are located at the surface. In the case of the large submarine base in Hawthorne, Nevada the base is located 4300 feet below the surface and is reached by huge elevators.

Huge elevators facilitate the transfer of ordnance built at the former U.S. Army Depot just across the street from the U.S. Naval Undersea Warfare Center just south and barely a mile from Walker Lake. In 1980, HWAAP Hawthorne Army Ammunition Plant was redesignated as a government-owned contractor-operated facility. Day & Zimmermann Hawthorne Corporation (DZHC) is the current operating contractor. In 1994, the facility received its current name of the Hawthorne Army Depot (HWAD).

For many years the sign on the highway entering Hawthorne from the south said U.S. Naval Underwater Warfare Training Center. A few years ago the word ‘Training’ was removed from the sign and is now, U.S. Navy Underwater Command Center Auxiliary.

‘Finally located after nearly 6 months of searching, the Scorpion was allegedly located by a towed camera sled, which was fabricated by J.L. "Jac" Hamm of Naval Research Laboratory's Engineering Services Division and is currently housed in the U.S. Navy Museum, Washington Navy Yard, Washington, DC. (Buchanan had located the wrecked hull of Thresher in 1964 using this same technique.)

Elaborate fabricated stories were concocted by the Navy to cover-up the disappearance of the Thresher and Scorpion to hide their actually missions under the western U.S. geological plate.

In 1985 to further enhance the fabricated sinking location of the Scorpion the Navy asked Ballard to find the wreckage and photograph it. For the past few years this part of the Titanic story has been devoted to showing alleged parts of the Scorpion. However, the careful view will note that very little of the wreckage in the film looks like a submarine or submarine parts.


So what did the Navy spend 3 years looking for on the Titanic? Why is such a secret? One thing we can be sure of and that is that with all Navy secrets this is just the tip of the iceberg.




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Re: U.S. Navy caught in Titanic lie!
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2013, 02:15:12 AM »
So what did the Navy spend 3 years looking for on the Titanic? Why is such a secret? One thing we can be sure of and that is that with all Navy secrets this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Would it not be something else near the wreck that they were working on and the Titanic is just a good cover and side show.  Apart from the old sub wrecks, isn't there an important cable under the Atlantic?  Is there another where they were working?
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Re: U.S. Navy caught in Titanic lie!
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2013, 03:40:20 AM »
Ok, The Alantic is growing a couple of inches a year forcing the pacific to shrink.  This should cause subduction zones on the west to be active. If this is so, then is the area around yellow stone the end of the zone. It is growing every day. Has anyone heard if the rockies are growing or stable? We are in for a big one some day. Just time is holding it back for now.
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2013, 04:04:08 AM »
Perhaps they were putting a bomb to trigger the big one and get the population down?  Or stopping enemies from having the chance?

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Re: U.S. Navy caught in Titanic lie!
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2013, 04:46:07 PM »
Although Ft. Ord was officially closed in 1994 there are rumors of extensive underground tunnels and facilities.

Submarines have been seen at China Lake Naval Air Station, Lake Tahoe, Pyramid Lake, Sand Point and other western U.S. Navy bases.

I was stationed at Ft. Ord in 1976 to 1979 and heard rumors about underwater passages North of Ord.  I wasn't in the research mode at the time.  I was around 27 at the time and really didn't think nothing of it.  As afr as tunnels and underground facilities..I really here about those.

I also was housed at China Lake for 2 days as part of an Army funeral detail.  We were only allowed to go straight to our quarters from the main gate and back out again.  We were monitored closely.  Never could figure out what a Naval Base was doing out in the middle of desert....
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2013, 04:59:54 PM »
With all of these underground sub tunnels and perhaps thousands of navy men travelling in them, Why has more information not slipped out? One would think that a few sailors would talk about it.
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Re: U.S. Navy caught in Titanic lie!
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2013, 05:05:27 PM »
So, how was the Navy "caught in a lie"?

I don't get it.

???

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Re: U.S. Navy caught in Titanic lie!
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2013, 05:09:20 PM »
It was recently discovered that the U.S. Navy had discovered the location of the Titanic 3 years before the official announcement by Ballard.

For 3 years the U.S. Navy explored for in some cases secret artifacts and documents that had gone down with the Titanic in 1912.

It is not clear what those documents or artifacts were or why it was necessary to keep the search secret for 3 years.

When the public got their first look, it was said that the videos were the first taken since the sinking. But in fact the Navy had had approximately 36 months to search the vessel.


I believe this is the lie being talked about (above)
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Re: U.S. Navy caught in Titanic lie!
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2013, 05:13:06 PM »
The other lie according to John

In addition to the lie of when the Titanic was really found another lie was perpetrated when the U.S. Navy asked underwater archeologist Robert Ballard to photograph the alleged remains of the U. S. nuclear submarine Scorpion (SSN-589) near the Azores, allegedly found by ‘a little-known Naval Research Laboratory scientist named Chester "Buck" Buchanan, using a towed camera sled of his own design aboard Mizar.’ Wikipedia’.
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Re: U.S. Navy caught in Titanic lie!
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2013, 05:16:31 PM »
I understand that, but where is the proof (or at least some evidence) that they were caught in a lie?

Just because someone says it it becomes a fact? ???

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