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Re: FukuGate - We've Been Conned
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2012, 07:07:09 PM »
The Soviet combat ethic of giving every two men a rifle, and instructing them thus: You, carrying the rifle. If he runs, shoot him. You, without the rifle, when he dies, take the rifle.

How one would ever go up against the type of man, woman and child who defended Stalingrad...Adolf (Ball) was destined for failure. And while one might consider them a vanquished enemy, I find myself attracted somewhat to the skin of that buck that we took. However...

Isn't that what the masses of world humanity have brought us to, right here, right now?

You, with the paycheck, drink this kool-aid and buy this meaningless drivel. You, without the paycheck...

I'm checking my bug-out kit this weekend.

All the Best, Free Thinkers...

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Re: FukuGate - We've Been Conned
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2012, 09:35:47 PM »
so do we move to argentina?
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

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Re: FukuGate - We've Been Conned
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2012, 09:42:24 PM »
Peru.
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Re: FukuGate - We've Been Conned
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2012, 10:34:36 PM »
When faced with such  adversity, distress and dispair ...and the chips are down...if we cannot laugh or smile we would cry.

There is always one mans piece of advice to consider...who always came to the rescue in WW2...





What else are we to do if threats from EMPs and a major Nuked world...

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Re: FukuGate - We've Been Conned
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2012, 09:44:13 AM »



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This is another part in our continuing series to fill in the blanks and share with discerning students the truth about the Fukushima ongoing disaster/fiasco spewing FALLOUT 24/7/365.


For the record, we share a quote from another of our stalwart friends, zworld, on the Fukushima mega-thread on Tango.

In that thread, we fired another round at the soon-to-be-sinking Nuke dingy on page 1300, 4 July 2012.

You won’t see these numbers on CNN.



“Anyway, as I’ve said many times, my math usually sucks, but I’ve been over all the data I can find and the math a couple times and I think I’ve got this right.

When all fuel assemblies are added together there was initially 5,019,119 lbs of uranium in all.

After five years, the amount converted into plutonium, not including that which is in the MOX fuel, equates to roughly 55,000 lbs of plutonium.

If older fuel rod accumulation greater than 1.27% Pu and MOX fuel was added to the equation the amount would be even higher.






55,000 lbs of plutonium equals roughly 25,000 kilograms of plutonium. That is how much Pu is onsite at Dai-ichi at this moment minus or plus any created or changed via the explosions and meltdowns.

Now consider that all nuclear explosions by all nuclear countries have released less than 8,000 kilograms of plutonium.


There is 3 times the
amount of plutonium sitting at Dai-ichi
than released in all previous nuke blasts.


And that doesn't include the massive amounts that may be present in the UC (underground chamber).

No wonder I cant sleep at night.” 



Thank you, friend zworld for your timely information.

Now, let’s see what info exists in the MSM as far as numbers go regarding Plutonium at Nukushima.




The spent fuel pool at an intact (for the moment) nuclear power plant.














Then one might add/deduct the unknown amount spirited away in the dead of night under US Navy escort on Zorgon’s barge.




And this Skipper nugget documenting radiation levels in Japan 10 days after 3/11.




Any way one does the math, the results do not bode well for the inhabitants of Planet Earth.


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Re: FukuGate - We've Been Conned
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2012, 04:45:00 PM »


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Greetings from Lake WoBeGoneSouth:

Today, we're going to promote others that we admire.

First, we have a dramatic video from our friend Ms. Milky that will not only bring one up-to-date on the ongoing nuclear disaster/fiasco in Japan, it just might horrify one enough to investigate further as a prelude to a call to action:



[youtube]DrQv1tq_oUg[/youtube]



Then, we have another excellent hatrickpenry piece adding nails to the ‘Plume-Gate’ coffin and then further adding fuel to the ‘who is the real shill’ fire.


‘Plume-Gate’ FOIA Reveals NRC, Other Agencies Knew Of Radioactive Fallout in USA « hatrickpenry


[youtube]kvAhacnui2o[/youtube]



AS NOT SEEN ON ALEX JONES SHOW!

Have a look yourself….that’s what Freedom Of Information is all about, without it we wouldn’t know jack.

With it, we get (inaudible) transcripts and heavy redaction…but sometimes, sometimes a ‘mistake’ is made and we find out bombshell evidence…in this case that they knew the radiation was coming, knew CHILDREN would be affected and did NOTHING to warn us.






In fact, they did everything they could to conceal it.

There’s a link below to the NRC webpage and all the documents…have a look, learn the inner workings of an off-the-chart cover up.

Other links included to the infant mortality study and Chernobyl study, both of which are congruent with one another.






Enenews article: http://enenews.com/controversy-after-govt-estimate-showed-40000-microsievert-
NRC FOIA documents, free for all to view: http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/foia/japan-foia-info.html
Mortality rate increase after Fukushima: http://www.radiation.org/reading/pubs/HS42_1F.pdf
Chernobyl study: http://www.radiation.org/reading/pubs/HS42_1F.pdf





Nice to see that the word is getting out ... hatrickpenry nails it again:




"Why is the Alternative Media
hiding the largest,
provable conspiracy of all time?"



Hatrick Penry explains tonight and every night 'til the Presidential election is over. The show runs from 11-11:30pm.





"Plume Gate, all things considered, is the Achilles heel of this administration

in that it is a cover up involving the deaths of thousands of Americans, perhaps 3-5 times as many as 9/11, yet unlike the controversy surrounding the ‘inside job’ theory of 9/11, we have proof of their foreknowledge in the FOIA documents.”

Once the public at large is made aware of this fact, could it bring an end to Obama’s re-election chances?"


~from Operation Mockingbird Style Alternative Media Infiltration Exposed by Hatrick Penry




Construction of Nuclear Power Plant at Fukushima Dai-ichi



From ‘The Divide and Conquer Department:’


Is this another example of the pot calling the kettle black?


Hatrick Penry: I’m calling out The Intel Hub, NaturalNews and PrisonPlanet

‘Former’ CIA and Military asset General Albert Stubblebind owns NaturalNews!

100% proof Alex Jones sheilds Obama from consequences of Plume-Gate

Maybe they are all shills…

“Maybe all of them are shills, that’s why they are in the ‘camera’s eye’ and you are not.?In the case of Dice vs. Jones, could this be an elaborate hoax wherin Mark Dice is to capture and lead as many of the ‘I think Alex Jones is a shill’ crowd as possible? After all, that crowd has been growing and growing…”





IMHO, MUST READ/SEE/UNDERSTAND.

This will give one a good understanding of the world-changing reality of Fukushima Daiichi. We consider this a must-see video from Arnie and Mrs. Gunderson.



[youtube]OkqK51is3no[/youtube]


Arnie Gunderson’s optimistic viewpoint worth considering from the video:

“Japan is at a tipping point.

You have an opportunity here to change the way we use energy.  Or Japan can go back and turn on all its nuclear reactors again and continue business as usual and of course risk another accident.

So you have a choice, you have the opportunity to change the way you use energy and to change the way you distribute energy.  You can create smart grids that share power from the north to the south and from the east to the west, where the frequencies are different.

We can distribute our generation, instead of having massive power plants in locations like Fukushima-Daiichi and Fukushima-Danai.  We can distribute those power plants throughout Japan, throughout the world, with windmills, with solar power, with conservation and with distributed small sources of generation.

Those are all one way of doing it compared to the other which we are presently using, which is central station power. We needed central station power in the 20th century. Now with computers, we do not need central station power anymore.

We can do it another way.”






NOTICE
A telephone number to add to your Blackberry    :P   Deborah Dennis, FOIA/PA Officer for Japan-Related FOIAs at (301) 415-5704.

CLICK HERE for the Freedom of Information Links! SAVE THIS FOR YOUR REFERENCE!

'Things' on the Internet have a strange way of disappearing that may run contrary to certain interests.


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« Last Edit: May 30, 2013, 12:53:09 PM by thorfourwinds »
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Re: FukuGate - We've Been Conned
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2012, 08:14:23 AM »
Thor, all of this just keeps on getting worse by the minute and really makes me feel useless. I can't think of any way to stop it from my position. They are just going to let everyone die. Write us off and then continue doing this till no one is left. Just look at your map. The radiation is not harming Japan. It is all going to the pacific and the USA. Why would they care if they nuked the states slowly? The states nuked them quickly.
 
Just thinking out loud in print. I would think if the air went the other way and flooded dear old mother China. It would have been dealt with one way or another in the first few days.
 
What are the states going to do when millions of people start to fall over dead?
 
I think the world needs to step in and stop this madness. It should be the only thing they work on till fixed. If this keeps going, the entire Pacific Ocean will be a graveyard. Once that happens, it is only a short time for the rest of most of us.
 
I still think they should nuke the plant and vaporize everything there.
 
Deuem
 

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Re: FukuGate - We've Been Conned
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2012, 12:40:29 PM »
i agree nukem,unless an air cannon can blow the stuff enuf to separate.
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Re: FukuGate - We've Been Conned
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2012, 05:40:14 PM »

Let me get this straight. We are proposing to detonate a nuclear explosive over tons of radioactive material? The way I see it, we get 1 of two results.

1. We detonate the device on the ground and the radiation pressure might generate the mother of all fission reactions, and it goes spectacularly badly.
2. We do an airburst, and spread the stuff far and wide, as an "atomic vapour". Can't see that
going well either. And how big a device would it have to be to completely obliterate fuku? Would not the neighbours complain? 

Anyway we here do not have any abillity to influence events in the shorterm, but longterm, maybe.

It all depends upon how much you'd like a bit of change and whtehr you are prepared to really push for it. To stand up and say NO I'd rather live like the Amish than use nuclear generated electricty. (Good news is you do not have to. I reduced my electricity consumption well below the percentage supplied by nuclear, so I can justifiably say, I don't want it, I don't need it, and neither does anyone else.

Of course I am surrounded by people who think differently to me, but nowadays they hear that little Beep that comes from wherever I happen to be, and they are reminded without me having to say one word, that there is a problem.

Sometimes they ask me. Then I tell them what I know. It's not the fastest way to "form opinion" as the people in the advertising and PR games would see it, but it seems to be working and it's low cost enough for me. I have one enquiry for a price on a counter this week. You just need one that goes BEEP when the rads cross the threshold that you set... :c)
I do feel at least like I am doing SOMETHING...

Fruitbat.

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Re: FukuGate - We've Been Conned
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2012, 06:17:08 PM »
When I move up and out I intend to have solar panels, so will be off the grid.

Hell, if a windmill wasnt too much to buy I'd get one of them too.

There is enough bloody radiation roaming around this globe without anyone adding to it for God's sake.  ::)
I know that I know nothing - thanks Capricorn.

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Re: FukuGate - We've Been Conned
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2012, 08:07:15 PM »
ok,how about a giant dozer push the whole thing out ,spread it out .that way the reaction ends.the tons of material can be transfered and buried by robots before any of the above proposals are done of course.
what im saying is an air cannons pressure could be adjusted to just blow it out at a certain velocity.say a hundred mph.shot directly at the molten pool.it should disperse in blobs.these blobs being separated,would slow the reaction down significantly.hopefully to the point of resolidifying.
the cannon would be mounted on a dozer remotely controled by shielded control wire cable.
if are doesnt work the high pressure water ,maybe superchilled to increase its density.
it all comes down to getting that molten glob seperated.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2012, 08:34:08 PM by robomont »
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Re: FukuGate - We've Been Conned
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2012, 04:26:17 AM »
fruitbat
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1. We detonate the device on the ground and the radiation pressure might generate the mother of all fission reactions, and it goes spectacularly badly.
2. We do an airburst, and spread the stuff far and wide, as an "atomic vapour". Can't see that
going well either. And how big a device would it have to be to completely obliterate fuku? Would not the neighbours complain? 


I have never read an honest answer to this no matter who I wrote to. I still think it would vaporize into nothing. Use an air blast but not too high. Make it a big glass crater.
 
If you used conventional weapons, then yes it would just get spread all over the place and make it worse. But a good nuke should vaporize the entire site. I don't see how the material would react and make it a bigger explosion. This material needs implosion not explosion to detonate.
 
Some one out there must understand this stuff and have the right answer. As far as I understand it, even 1 nuke would not detonate another nuke right next to it, just incinerate it.  They either have to go off exactly at the same time or drop them in one after another. Boom, wait, boom. So to give the first one enough time not to incinerate the second one coming in.
 
By the looks of things, they are not going to do anything anyways. So we all start glowing then die. The pacific is only giving everyone time.
 
At the heart of the matter is another question, is this considered an act of war or an accident. If 50 million people in another country start falling over, what then? What would Japan say if this accident had started on the East side of  North or South Korea and all of the radiation covered their country? Would the Japanese people just say thank you?
 
Deuem
 
« Last Edit: October 25, 2012, 04:30:26 AM by deuem »

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Re: FukuGate - We've Been Conned
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2012, 12:38:50 PM »
yep, if that stuff was blowing over china,invasion of japan would be imminent.
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Re: FukuGate - We've Been Conned
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2012, 06:01:19 PM »

Nuclear Technology is an act of war against all life.

Understand that, and you'll know what must be done.

IF you want to try and make a difference buy a counter, with the cumulative memory and a settable threshold for the beep, and when you understand how to use it and what it is telling you go out among the un educated and tell them. It's the only way anyone will ever catch on. When those beeps come out of my pocket at work a bit more often you can see people catching on... Sooner or later there will be a tipping pont and we'll get some action. I reckon I need to get 10 people to buy counters and carry them, with the aim of passing on the knowledge of a need for individual ownership of geiger counters, in order to have won my part of the War Against Nuclear Kontamination...

Maybe we'll need a better acronym, but first someone out there buy yourself a geiger counter and report back to us what you see. I've been seeing an equvalent of 10millsieverts per year (shorterm, recently, aparently falling, now) and overall around 4-5 extrapolated up from my approx 6 months cumulative reading of 2milliseverts.

Wouldn't it be nice of all that government tech we paid for in the fifties worked as advertised and could give us moving maps of the contamination and there were damage limitation measures we could take?

FB!

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Re: FukuGate - We've Been Conned
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2012, 01:17:13 AM »
yep, if that stuff was blowing over china,invasion of japan would be imminent.

I agree, I think the decission would take about 5 minutes. A couple of ICBMs would be visiting that site real quick. Sometimes you need to fight fire with fire.
 
Now, I don't want everyone thinking I love Nukes or that I am ok with with what is going on. Yes, we need a better method of power. For sure! But this rabbit is well out of the hat and I see nothing going on.
 
Are they just waiting for the pacific fish to turn belly up, then the West coast of the states to roll over and die?  The story is on the back page now and well covered up. It only lives because of people like Thor.
 
Deuem
« Last Edit: October 30, 2012, 07:32:29 AM by thorfourwinds »

 


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