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Re: My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2012, 08:46:10 AM »
once again i think you're quoting some pope or something cause according to jesus the temple is the human body.
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Re: My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2012, 08:51:49 AM »
once again i think you're quoting some pope or something cause according to jesus the temple is the human body.
Indeed, Beth!

And theres two of them!

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Re: My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2012, 09:17:55 AM »
Indeed, Beth!

And theres two of them!

Cheers!;)
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not sure i understand what you mean.
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Re: My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2012, 09:27:53 AM »
i said that in response to petrus4's comment that christians teach that sacred geometry (he shows a picture of the temple depicting the human body) is satanic.   i was like...wait.
jesus said the temple of god would be the human being.  not the building. 

so anyone who thinks christians teach the building is the location of god must not be reading jesus' words but someone else's words.  i mean, what other conclusion can you reach? 
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Re: My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2012, 09:49:51 AM »
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"Then exactly what the frigging heck is your own Temple Canon, guys?"

^evidence.

i think my response was appropriate, was it not?
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Re: My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2012, 09:59:36 AM »
doh. lol  sorry took me a bit to figure out what you were saying.
2 temples (as it the two temples on the sides of the head).

this carl munck video about the stonehenge matrix , global positioning etc, is interesting
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Re: My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2012, 10:39:21 AM »
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I played wait for it Undo..LOL!

Our temples are the very basis for how the biblical and pre biblical writing speak in allegory of how we must enter the temples and make them useful.

What I find interesting is there is two temples, and that they are the yin and yang, the battle between our left and right brain hemispheres.

A daily struggle to make correct decisions based on what we perceive to be wrong and right, and to learn which temple is the right one takes years of practice and discipline.

Which temple will  enter today?

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Re: My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2012, 11:10:30 AM »
All that play on words with "temple" makes sense only in English (and maybe other languages that I do not know).

In Portuguese we have different words, "templo" (the building) and "têmpora" (the body part).

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Re: My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2012, 12:15:07 PM »
Hey ArMaP! I wonder if the semantics work in Portuguese as well...Hmmm..maybe a bit of Portuguese etymology is in the cards tonight!
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Re: My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2012, 12:33:11 PM »
I truthfully wish that I could learn about this stuff, without ever having to hear about the Masons.  I truthfully wince, mentally if not physically, every time I see the Eye anywhere.  They are an absolutely vile group, as far as I'm concerned.

Well you COULD learn about Sacred Geometry right here... I have a really good thread about it here... but not mentioning the Masons and RC in context with it? Not possible :P

And using Pike and Crowley as source material? You people make me laugh....

The fact that you wince when you see the eye everywhere when you don't understand it, tells me perhaps it is best I leave that thread in the Mystic Secret room after all....

You and Undo say the secrets are 'in the wrong hands"  and you both say who are they to decide who gets to see it...  but either one of you can simply join and have access to those secrets... once you show you have a serious will to learn

Do you think either of you are 'the right hands' to hold such information?

Here is one example on the extreme end...  I know how to make a nuclear device but have no interest in making one...  you think that info should just fall into the hands of everyone?

Medical schools teach you how to be a brain surgeon... yet that knowledge is kept 'secret' from the masses until you pay your tuition fees and have a basic background in medical skills. Even once you reach that 'level', many fail and never become a practicing brain surgeon

The Mystery Schools are no different. You want to learn how Jesus moved that mountain, you need to learn the basics and how to control it. And yet ALL that knowledge today is freely available on the internet  LOL  I myself have spent decades showing it.

But people like you are more interested in bad mouthing a group based on preconceived notions and what you have heard on the net... that you don't take the time to LISTEN to what is being said.

There is a course on Sacred Geometry at one College that has it online. I have posted that several times... yet no one responded save a few off the cuff comments. University of Wisconsin/Madison has the original Emerald Tablet documents... the Hermwtic Works  I have those here and on my website... but the few that have looked at them cannot understand them and prefer to use web versions written by people with no Hermetic teaching

But you would be biased anyway as the are Rosicrucian Works  just like the Bible is a Christian Work...

There is anothe course in Sacred Geometry presented by a Christian Artist... and though he uses the word God a lot... he too has to cover the Eye :P  But then he understands and has no problem separating knowledge from Religion even though he has his personal belief

Rdunk created a thread on here trying to show the POSITIVE side of Christianity. Yet the very people that have made claims about how Christianity is always attacked... ended up derailing that thread several times and turning it once again into a bash fest. Pimander split it... but NO ONE went to the split thread to continue the off topic nonsense...

Neither Pimander or I are Christians but we gave Rdunk the opportunity to present his religion in a positive light... but look what happened? Even those who should be most supportive of his attempt fell back into the same old attack/counter attack routine.

Now you come and start a thread calling Masons. Etc Monsters.... and you think you are ready to receive knowledge?

Well I don't think this knowledge would be in the right hands if it was to land at your feet. :P In fact I am more inclined to believe that;

A) You would twist it to suit your beliefs
B) Not fully understand it because you are already biased about the source
C) you have not yet reached maturity enough to put aside your need to attack that which you do not understand

Until you can free your mind from this fear of other philosophies you will never be in the right frame of mind to understand the secrets of the Universe

You Petrus has claimed to be a Kali worshiper. To many that is worshiping a vile EVIL deity...

But you say you cannot look at Mason stuff because that EYE keeps popping up...

Well to you I say ..

YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE 

Because any true Kali worshipper knows the true meaning of the EYE



And since Kali is part of Hinduism, every TRUE Hindu knows the body is the  temple

The Hindu : Life & Style / Metroplus : The body as temple

So until all you bashers can put aside your own biases long enough to LISTEN to real knowledge... you will NEVER be ready to learn the Ancient Secrets and will always be like Jesus said;

“The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, “‘though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understand.’ "

Yoda:

“Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes. Even between the land and the ship.”

Luke:

“I can’t believe it.”

Yoda:

“That is why you fail.”

Put aside your hatred of other belief systems long enough to LISTEN to what the other guy has to say and understand that your belief (generic 'your') is not the ONLY truth

You cannot learn anything new when you vilify the very ones who possess that which you seek

BTW hear is your FIRST lesson in Sacred Geometry in the Universe itself thanks to Hubble



When your ready to put aside your bashing and learn, give me a call ;)
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Re: My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2012, 01:00:20 PM »
I for one, totally understand your disdain for the views Petrus shared earlier, Zorgon, and as a fellow initiate of sorts I must be flexible with the whole Freemason issue.

I also understand the shock Petrus has sustained from learning some of the bad things about freemasons of certain times and societies, which may not be based on the original message the freemasons wished to convey.

Like the Christians and such, freemasonry has been split and divided into differing ideals and activities through the ages, so a base and origin of its definition may be necessary to discuss this in a balanced manner.
I for one am game for some lernin';)

I have found numerous differences in different freemason writings and teachings through my searches on the web, so it seems imperative to sift through the lot for the gems and valuable parts.

I also wish to learn from you and see the side which you care to present in reply to the many different opinions presented by current freemasonry, as several of the local fellows Ive met who claim to be freemasons have turned out to be quite odd, and vague in their beliefs.

Maybe they havent reached the level which defines a true freemason yet, or they have been taught by someone who isnt getting the whole picture.

I think you should do a locked thread about what you feel is the crux of freemasonry and how it has changed and been applied throughout the millenia, to share with us all the whole of your views about it.

With a separate discussion thread, of course.:)

Then and only then can we discuss the subject from an enlightened standpoint, and make arguments and agreeances without conflict.

How bout it, Z?:D

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Re: My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2012, 01:04:06 PM »
You call Masons MONSTERS...

well back at ya...  At least you don't see headlines like these about masons :P

Here are some REAL MONSTERS  all under the cover of "Religion"

Sacrificed? Beheaded body at Kali temple
Someswar Boral, TNN Apr 16, 2010, 02.23am IST


BOLPUR: A beheaded, naked body lying on the altar of a Bolpur Kali temple on Thursday triggered fears of a human sacrifice by a tantrik. Marigold flowers and incense sticks were scattered around the corpse.The sacrificial altar was smeared with blood. The battered head, with some of the teeth bashed in, lay in the grass, a few metres away.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2010-04-16/kolkata/28122209_1_human-sacrifice-naked-body-temple

Thuggee Cult

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Thuggee also known as tuggee or simply thugs, was a religious cult and an organized gang of professional assassins who traveled in groups across India for several hundred years. They were first mentioned in the ?iya-ud-Din Barani  dated around 1356. In the 1830s they were targeted by William Bentinck, along with his chief captain William Henry Sleeman, for eradication. They were seemingly destroyed by this effort.

The thugs would join travellers and gain their confidence. This would allow them to then surprise and strangle them by tossing a handkerchief or noose around their necks. The killings were performed in honour of the goddess Kali and were very ritualistic. They would then rob the bodies of valuables and bury them. This led them to also be called Phansigar (English: using a noose), a term more commonly used in southern India.

The term Thuggee is derived from Hindi word ??, or ?hag, which means thief. Related words are the verb thugna, to deceive, from Sanskrit sthaga meaning cunning, sly, fraudulent, dishonest, scoundrel, from ?sthagati (English: he conceals). This term for a particular kind of murder and robbery of travellers is popular in South Asia and particularly in India.



I guess you could say the Thuggee's are equivalent to the Christian Satan worshipers :P



The Catholic Church And German Porn

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Germany’s largest media company is “Weltbild.” They’re owned completely by the Catholic church. Not many were aware of that until recently, when Buchreport, a German industry newsletter, said they also sell porn. The media company sells DVDs, books, music, etc., controlling, in fact, twenty percent of the book market in Germany.

For around ten years, concerned members of the Catholic church who were aware of the goings-on have tried to point it out to Church authorities. Worldcrunch reported that, “In 2008, the group sent a 70-page document to all the bishops whose dioceses have shared ownership of Weltbild for 30 years, detailing evidence of the sale of questionable material.”

A spokesman for the church responded, “Weltbild tries to prevent the distribution of possibly pornographic content.” The previously mentioned group of Catholics were outraged at the hypocrisy in that statement.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/08/15/the-catholic-church-and-german-porn/

Catholic priest accidentally showed gay porn during presentation at a primary school

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Slideshow of 16 indecent images appeared on autoplay when priest inserted USB stick
    Father Martin McVeigh walked out of the room looking 'shaken and flustered'
    He says he has no idea how the images got on the memory stick

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2124450/Catholic-priest-accidentally-showed-gay-porn-parents-presentation.html

Missouri Catholic priest pleads guilty in child porn case

yeah I can find HUNDREDS more such posts...

Put Pegasus is NOT a religious platform... it was set up as a research site more for seeking estoteric knowledge and alternative sciences...

So stop wasting time on these thousand year old religious debates that do nothing but incite anger and frustration, and spend that energy on actually learning something

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Re: My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2012, 01:20:48 PM »
Thats the origin of the word thug, eh?

From the sound of that news report, theyre coming back to mainstream again arent they?

Disturbing to say the least!

Petrus, did you know this about Kali, or have you maybe been reading some different stuff about her? As with other belief systems, there can be polar oppsoites within them, so maybe you havent done all the homework necessary to find the full story..I hope thats the case!
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Re: My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters
« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2012, 01:58:59 PM »
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You and Undo say the secrets are 'in the wrong hands"

i said no such thing!   the point i was making was if he thought being a secret org automatically made their power evil, what of your reference to power being given out only to the "right people", and that such information could be disastrous in the wrong hands.   then i questioned what the right hands are, because i have no idea.  i was making an example of how calling masons evil because they are secretive, may be misdirected in the same way:  what are the right hands then (he brought it up first and i was making a point, which i apparently didn't do a very good job of)

  i'm in a belief system that just plops it all right out in your lap and it isn't hard to understand, there are no secrets and no mysteries.  the closest they come to that is metaphor, and the metaphors are defined in the same text anyway.  it's a belief system for the common person.  one that doesnt require you be a scientist to follow it, nor a mathematician but which can be richer and more vibrant the more you desire to learn from it.  i suppose that's true for any school of thought.

i'm getting frustrated here. you automatically think the worst of me no matter what i do
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Re: My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2012, 02:04:51 PM »
c}  This group supposedly has (or is able to) used said knowledge to elevate itself to a position of total dominion over human life, in literally every known respect.

no one is Absolute Dominion in this Game (even God) + some things look Evil 'cause ye cannot see whole picture. Prime Goal 4 Universe always been Equilibrium & Darkness/Light only are instruments 4.  :)
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