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San Onofre - America's Fukushima?
« on: August 04, 2012, 09:09:01 AM »
America's Been Nuked Report
17 months after 3/11




San Onofre




America's Fukushima ?





A report released last week by one of the nation’s leading independent nuclear engineers revealed serious unresolved safety problems with the steam generators at San Onofre’s two aging nuclear reactors and warned the problems could lead to accidents and significant radiation releases if the reactors are allowed to restart.


8 Million Lives Threatened By California San Onofre Reactor Problems



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Friends of the Earth launched a new television ad campaign today targeting the utility Southern California Edison, the operator of the troubled San Onofre nuclear reactors, which are currently closed due to serious safety problems.

"The plan is to get people to tell their friends and family members and get them involved in raising awareness about the issue so they can combat the power and influence the nuclear industry has over our regulators."       


"This needs to reach critical mass so the public can demand in a voice of solidarity that the issue is properly addressed

before the people in the Los Angeles and San Diego area find themselves living in the same level of radioactive nuclear fallout that the 20 million people in the Tokyo metropolitan area are living in now."







Is anyone paying attention?


"The paper also documented that Edison misled the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission about changes made to the reactors,

failing to disclose differences between old and new steam generators that could seriously compromise the safety of the reactors."


“The Nuclear Regulatory Commission knows
these reactors need to stay offline,


and Southern California families know it too,”


said Damon Moglen, climate and energy project director at Friends of the Earth.


“But Southern California Edison is pushing ahead.

That’s unacceptable, especially after it was its deception that led to this dangerous situation."



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The ad was paid for by Friends of the Earth. It was endorsed by Citizens Oversight Projects, Committee to Bridge the Gap, Physicians for Social Responsibility — Los Angeles, Residents Organized for a Safe Environment (ROSE), San Clemente Green, SanOnofreSafety.org, and the Peace Resource Center of San Diego, all groups representing local residents endangered by the San Onofre reactors.

Nuclear watchdog Friends of the Earth has been campaigning on the dangers of nuclear power since its founding in 1969.


People deserve better than to have their power company racing to restart dangerous nuclear reactors after one sprang a radioactive leak and when both threaten much worse.”


The "much worse" is something that is not acceptable to Citizens of Planet Earth.






”As man attempts
to become God-like,
we release potential forces
that can,
and probably will,
destroy us.”






But wait!

A glowing, wriggling tentacle waves from the back of a spent fuel pool ... it's the MSM:

Fallout: From Fukushima to San Onofre




The San Onofre nuclear power plant in San Diego County, California


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The radiation that blew out of the Fukushima nuclear-power plants, particles of which the jet stream swept across the Pacific, barely left a trace on sensitive monitoring equipment in California.


Yet its minute presence also registered loud and clear: this is one planet.


What the above MSM conveniently forgot to add to the story that almost 25% of those 'sensitive monitors' were off-line for various reasons in the two months immediately following the triple melt-throughs before the EPA shut down the monitoring program on 3 May 2011, 'because there is no need to monitor..."    :o


Let’s look at a few tidbits from our friends over at USA Radiation News Today™ for possible enlightenment.


7 February 2012
Highest level of radioactive cesium in San Francisco-area milk since August 2011 — Now at 150% of EPA’s maximum contaminant limit


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2/6/2012 (2:31pm): A new milk sample has been measured, this one with a best-by date of 2/16/2012. The results are posted to the milk sample page. Low levels of both Cs-134 and Cs-137 were still detected in the sample.

Best Buy Date of 02/16/2012:
Cs-134 @ 0.052 Bq/L
Cs-137 @ 0.115 Bq/L

0.167 Bq/L of radioactive cesium = 4.526 picocuries/L (1 Bq = 27.1 picocuries)

The EPA Maximum Contaminant Level for radioactive cesium in milk is 3 picocuries/L:

“EPA lumps these gamma and beta emitters together under one collective MCL (Maximum Contaminant Level), so if you’re seeing cesium-137 in your milk or water, the MCL is 3.0 picocuries per liter; if you’re seeing iodine-131, the MCL is 3.0; if you’re seeing cesium-137 and iodine-131, the MCL is still 3.0.” -Forbes.com

These are the highest cesium levels detected by UCB since at least August 2011 (As the MDA was higher over the summer, it’s hard to be sure of the exact levels at that time).







BTW, remember way back when we pondered the question of Napa Valley wine being affected?

And the story got buried and never saw the light of day, let alone have any of the grapes or wine tested.

Crazy we are, you say?

Check this out, mate.


7 September 2011
Alpha radiation detected in imported Japanese Sake

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10-minute interior average Japanese Sake #1 Liquid in Test Dish bought in Southern California Japanese market = 45.6 CPM which is 22.3% higher than previous background average.

When detecting with the Inspector, the sake in its unopened bottle, there was little ionization above background radiation.

That makes this significant reading all the more troublesome because

it indicates the presense of alpha radiation which is up to a thousand times more dangerous than beta and gamma radiation.



(Image for illustration only. Identity of radioactive sake withheld)
 

16 January 2012
Over EPA limit:
Cesium levels in San Francisco area milk now higher than 6 months ago



Pasteurized, Homogenized Milk from the San Francisco Bay Area with Best By Date of 12/29/2011

Cs-134: 0.068 Becquerels/liter (Bq/l) ±0.011 [MDA=0.044]
Cs-137: 0.075 Bq/l ±0.015 [MDA=0.052]
Total cesium is .143 Bq/l, or 3.87 picocuries/l (pCi/l) (1 Bq = 27.1 pCi).

The EPA Maximum Contaminant Level for radioactive cesium in milk is 3 pCi/l:

“EPA lumps these gamma and beta emitters together under one collective MCL [Maximum Contaminant Level], so if you’re seeing cesium-137 in your milk or water, the MCL is 3.0 picocuries per liter; if you’re seeing iodine-131, the MCL is 3.0; if you’re seeing cesium-137 and iodine-131, the MCL is still 3.0.” -Forbes.com


Current levels are about 40% higher than what was detected 6 months ago:


Pasteurized, Homogenized Milk from the San Francisco Bay Area with Best By Date of 8/22/2011

Cs-134: 0.047 Bq/l ±0.010 [MDA=0.041]
Cs-137: 0.052 Bq/l ±0.013 [MDA=0.044]











20 October 2011
220 days later: Radiation levels in San Francisco-area milk remain above EPA's Max Contaminant Level -- Cesium-137 continues steady increase that began in August

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BERKELEY, Oct. 18 — The Nuclear Engineering Department at the University of California, Berkeley has posted new test results for store-bought milk from the San Francisco Bay Area.

The total amount of radioactive cesium increased slightly since the last test, and has risen steadily since the minimum detectable amount was lowered in August.

Results:

Bay Area store-bought milk sample with best buy date of October 10, 2011

Cs-134 @ 0.056 Becquerel per kilogram (Bq/kg)
Cs-137 @ 0.088 Bq/kg

SOURCE: UC Berkeley
Conversion: 27.1 picocuries (pCi) in a Becquerel

The sample has 3.888 pCi/l of radioactive cesium, compared with the EPA’s Maximum Contaminant Level of 3.0 pCi/l.

“EPA lumps these gamma and beta emitters together under one collective MCL [Maximum Contaminant Level], so if you’re seeing cesium-137 in your milk or water, the MCL is 3.0 picocuries per liter; if you’re seeing iodine-131, the MCL is 3.0; if you’re seeing cesium-137 and iodine-131, the MCL is still 3.0.” -Forbes.com


And this from contributer mothra 1 year ago:

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http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/UCBAirSampling

Milk is just one good indicator of food chain exposure across many categories, being a concentrator, somewhat localized to area grazing animals AND a highly regulated industry. I’m not certain the general public understands the implication of that measure?

To demonstrate, a person may see in the link above, how a “minute” fluctuating radiation air and precipitation sample can manifest in soil, tap water, grass, milk and produce etc.

I just don’t see why the EPA expectation and blanket statements about “decrease in levels” are logical right now when:

1.) Fukushima emissions are increasing.

2.) It’s ongoing, levels are rising.

3.) Milk is the indicator of food chain exposure in most categories.

4.) Radiation concentrates as you go up the food chain – not the opposite. Humans and breast milk are at the chain top.

5.) I-131 alone takes 80 days to dissipate when exposure stops, and that’s not including cesium.

6.) Not all exposures are the same. Ingested alpha and beta particles are very different from external gamma (airline flights, suntans et al).

7.) This developing radiation situation is in addition to prior exposure levels.

8.) Not everyone’s risk is the same – as in children and high risk individuals like immuno-supressed et al. By that I mean we aren’t all 30 year old men from 40 year old studies when these “acceptable low dose/safe dose thresholds” were set.

9.) Even “low dose” exposure by multiple pathways has aggregate risk (1 in 39,000 cancer alone) by the CDC’s own conservative Hiroshima model (under 200 ton load. Fukushima is 1,900 tons and 900 miles closer to US): http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/radiation/fallout/feasibilitystudy/Technical_Vol_1_Chapter_4.pdf

I just want to be clear and out my bias that individuals should have access to all open data and be allowed to make their own choices based on that. I agree with Scotland’s take on that score.

Thanks for reading and being patient with me in advance.

Best wishes to you all.

I hope I’m wrong.


And the beat goes on:


Japan Nuclear Radiation In Hawaii Milk 2033% Above Federal
Drinking Water Limits



Radiation Detected In Drinking Water In 13 More US Cities,
Cesium-137 In Vermont Milk - Forbes



California Cows Threaten Strike If Forced to Eat Radiated Grass




Clarabelle Clovenhoofer – Spokecow for Bovine Union Local #238


“The attitude of those happy cows in California will turn very sour if they are forced to eat radiated grass.”


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Bovine News Today is reporting that the persnickety bovines will strike if fallout from the Japanese nuclear meltdown continues to rain on their beloved California grasslands.


Clarabelle Clovenhoofer, local union spokesbovine, had this to say,

“It’ll be a cold day in the pasture before we eat radiated grass.”


One must understand
that fallout
from the Fukushima disaster
is threatening world food supplies.


CNN, Reuters, and Russia Today are all reporting that radioactive material is being carried by minute moisture droplets in the air. It can then be directly inhaled into the lungs, get washed down by rain into the sea and onto the soil, and eventually contaminate crops, marine life and drinking water.

Cow’s milk is especially vulnerable, experts say, when cows graze on grass exposed to radiation.

Here in Rio Linda, we call that stuff fallout.   :P


This is one more huge blow to the already fragile world food supply.

If you are relying solely on supermarkets and the government to feed you in a disaster, you are gambling with your family’s future.

But, then again, if you hoard more than a week's worth of food, you are classified as a terroist.    :o

And if you have a 'victory garden' or something similar for a sustainable food supply for your family, it is subject to government intervention and subsequent destruction.    :o






In any case, truth-seekers must not fall for the old cabal tactic of getting their opponents to fight each other.



We all agree we want to end poverty,
stop environmental destruction,
have world peace
and enter a new age of
discovery, abundance, wonder and freedom.


So please, let's concentrate on that positive vision and avoid negativity whenever possible.

 



"Even when children plea for help
directly to the government
their cries are ignored,


which can be interpreted
as nothing less than the government
telling the population to go Fukushima themselves


because the agenda
of the globalist corpocracy
is more important



than something
as insignificant as
the value of human life."









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Re: San Onofre - America's Fukushima?
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2012, 12:53:18 PM »
Matter of FucT is, effective decommissioning needs new techs & modern ones been too expensive+ too long to take'em seriously. so regular protests are useless to solve trouble.
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Re: San Onofre - America's Fukushima?
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2012, 03:58:55 PM »
Sar, ALL the excellent (free energy) solutions have been hidden and suppressed.  Many are relatively cheap to build and maintain.  Compared to nuke power, they're practically free themselves.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2012, 04:07:29 PM »
Sar, ALL the excellent (free energy) solutions have been hidden and suppressed.  Many are relatively cheap to build and maintain.  Compared to nuke power, they're practically free themselves.
Amy, most problem to R&D any HES (high energy source) always been not suppressing from bad or "bad" guys, but safety issues per se. 
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San Onofre nuclear power plant: More dangerous than imagined
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2012, 05:20:15 PM »

13 July, 2012, 22:29



The San Onofre Nuclear Generating plant (Reuters/Mike Blake)


San Onofre nuclear power plant: More dangerous than imagined


More than six months after regulators ordered an intense probe of a California power plant, authorities say that conditions at the San Onofre nuclear facility are actually much worse than ever thought.

“This reveals a far greater problem than has been previously disclosed, and raises serious questions about whether it is safe to restart either unit,”

Daniel Hirsch, a nuclear expert at the University of California, Santa Cruz, tells the AFP of the latest news regarding an investigation into problematic reactors at the site.


What were originally just minor concerns caused the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) to order an investigation in January, closing one reactor at the San Onorfre site between San Diego and Los Angeles in the interim.

More than half a year later, though, the publishing of their latest findings suggest that the problems with the plant are more than just a few frayed wires.

Initially, Gil Alexander of Southern California Edison, the plant’s owners, told the Los Angeles Times that the problems brought up at the beginning of this year “wouldn’t even qualify as the least severe.” Nonetheless, a single reactor responsible for churning out around 1,100 megawatts of electricity has been put on ice ever since. Upon the NRC’s latest findings, Alexander’s assumptions seem anything but accurate.

Hirsch adds to AFP that the just published findings show that more than 3,400 steam generator tubes in the new steam generators at San Onofre have undergone some sort of damage — as well as about 1,800 in Unit 3 and 1,600 in Unit 2.

Those tubes are instrumental in keeping the site’s 65 foot tall, 1.3 million pound generators up and running. And although some wear and tear is expected, the Associated Press recalls that the generators were replaced in a $670 million overhaul with some components not finished until last April.


Despite these upgrades, though, in some sections like the facility’s Unit 3 reactor, more than 50 percent of the tube wall that lines the generators has experienced significant wear.

Alexander originally told the Times that the incident would be handled appropriately in just a matter of hours. That was January. This week, Hirsch says, “Edison had been talking about trying to get Unit 2 back on line at end of summer; now we know to do so they would have to run with a large number of damaged tubes.”


"The problem is vastly larger
than has been disclosed to date,”


he adds to the AP.

In an AP investigation last year, it was revealed that nation’s nuclear facilities have prompted around 113 alerts since only 2005 that can be blamed, at least in part, on aging. The vast majority of plants in the US, including San Onofore, are older than a quarter of a century.

“I think we need nuclear power, but we can’t compromise on safety. I think the vulnerability is on these older plants,”

engineer Richard T. Lahey Jr., formerly with General Electric Co, told the AP during the investigation. Although San Onofre has seen a fair share of upgrades and additions over the years, it was first set up all the way in 1968, making it among some of the oldest American facilities of its kind.

“They're … trying to get more and more out of these plants,” nuclear safety scientist Dana Powers added to the AP.
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Re: San Onofre - America's Fukushima?
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2012, 05:22:49 PM »
Amy, most problem to R&D any HES (high energy source) always been not suppressing from bad or "bad" guys, but safety issues per se. 

I've told this story before here but will tell it again.  A friend of Mine used to work as a "roadie" for an inventor.  This inventor had come up with a way to tap the earth's magnetic field and was traveling around trying to drum up investors.  My friend's job was to set up and take down the demonstration.

According to My friend:

1.  The device worked - outputting more usable energy than input to operate the machine
2.  It had no safety issues beyond normal safety issues with electricity
3.  The inventor had invented it on His own
4.  It was fairly inexpensive to build.  Maybe $500-$1,000 ish

My friend lost His job there because one day the FBI showed up and arrested the inventor, confiscating all equipment, on charges of...

Patent infringement!

To My knowledge, the inventor is still imprisoned after being railroaded thought the court system.  So.  If it has a patent (which was not easily available in a prior art search - the inventor did do a search) W(here)TF is this invention?

So...  No.  They have been ACTIVELY suppressing inventions, some "dangerous," no doubt, but clearly some not really.
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2012, 05:43:40 PM »
I've told this story before here but will tell it again.  A friend of Mine used to work as a "roadie" for an inventor.  This inventor had come up with a way to tap the earth's magnetic field and was traveling around trying to drum up investors.  My friend's job was to set up and take down the demonstration.

According to My friend:

1.  The device worked - outputting more usable energy than input to operate the machine
2.  It had no safety issues beyond normal safety issues with electricity
3.  The inventor had invented it on His own
4.  It was fairly inexpensive to build.  Maybe $500-$1,000 ish

My friend lost His job there because one day the FBI showed up and arrested the inventor, confiscating all equipment, on charges of...

Patent infringement!

To My knowledge, the inventor is still imprisoned after being railroaded thought the court system.  So.  If it has a patent (which was not easily available in a prior art search - the inventor did do a search) W(here)TF is this invention?

So...  No.  They have been ACTIVELY suppressing inventions, some "dangerous," no doubt, but clearly some not really.
Amy, what is the least reason, ye've, to call that invention safe?? to play with Earth's m-field has some funny side-effects & applications. i don't think it's good idea to put megaton-(or greater)class toys 4 free using.  :)
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Re: San Onofre - America's Fukushima?
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2012, 07:30:46 PM »
Sar, Amicus, it was an example.  To illustrate that They SUPPRESS things.  If They feared repercussions from the drawing on the EM field of the planet, They would NOT have railroaded Him in court on patent infringement charges and left Him to rot in jail.  They would have discussed with Him the issues inherent in His invention.  Tried to talk sense to Him.  Something other than bursting in, collecting all apparati, arresting Him, and ruining His life.

They would have behaved far differently.
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2012, 07:59:08 PM »
Sar, Amicus, it was an example.  To illustrate that They SUPPRESS things.  If They feared repercussions from the drawing on the EM field of the planet, They would NOT have railroaded Him in court on patent infringement charges and left Him to rot in jail.  They would have discussed with Him the issues inherent in His invention.  Tried to talk sense to Him.  Something other than bursting in, collecting all apparati, arresting Him, and ruining His life.

They would have behaved far differently.
Amica, Just look at the 20th century: humans got there so many nice techs & what a mess was done with! i guess you know many examples how human suppresses common sense

in short, i'd like to not judge Elder Brothers 4 their methods so fast  :)
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2012, 08:03:25 PM »
Amica, Just look at the 20th century: humans got there so many nice techs & what a mess was done with! i guess you know many examples how human suppresses common sense

in short, i'd like to not judge Elder Brothers 4 their methods so fast  :)

That was not the common Human, but driven by the war profiteers.  They provoked war; They built the war machines and bombs, They profited.

If You want peace, take the profit out of war.
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2012, 02:51:55 PM »
That was not the common Human, but driven by the war profiteers.  They provoked war; They built the war machines and bombs, They profited.

If You want peace, take the profit out of war.
They & only They are to blame 4 any $hit has happened around, but we're so small abused people & can change absolutely Nothing.
if human looks at 'self as a slave, then (s)he is the slave.
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Re: San Onofre - America's Fukushima?
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2012, 05:13:58 PM »
They would NOT have railroaded Him in court on patent infringement charges and left Him to rot in jail. 

Does this inventor have a name?

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Re: San Onofre - America's Fukushima?
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2012, 07:01:08 PM »
They & only They are to blame 4 any $hit has happened around, but we're so small abused people & can change absolutely Nothing.
if human looks at 'self as a slave, then (s)he is the slave.

Oh, Sar, Amicus, We are not slaves, but there IS a group that would believe We are, and They are trying to put Us down to a manageable level.  They enslave Us in many devious ways, though We are Beings and therefore, by rights, not slaves.  (I also believe We carry EA's DNA and are therefore royalty in the ASA-RRR bloodline...  But One has to accept The Terra Papers to go that far, I suppose.)

And We CAN change things, starting by bringing the solution I offer to the tipping point in awareness. 
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Re: San Onofre - America's Fukushima?
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2012, 07:07:40 PM »
Does this inventor have a name?

No z, and I admit this is anecdotal.  My friend was reasonably close, though I lost track of him when He left Ithaca.  Spidy sense says He told the truth.  But You have good probability of disregarding My story of My friend's story and I accept that.  I have been talking to new friends here and some of Them know someone who was in hiding because of a free energy invention...

I stand some chance of getting that name - but it might not be wise to announce it publicly, for the sake of that Person, and Those who know that Person
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2012, 12:02:10 PM »
Oh, Sar, Amicus, We are not slaves, but there IS a group that would believe We are, and They are trying to put Us down to a manageable level.  They enslave Us in many devious ways, though We are Beings and therefore, by rights, not slaves.  (I also believe We carry EA's DNA and are therefore royalty in the ASA-RRR bloodline...  But One has to accept The Terra Papers to go that far, I suppose.)

And We CAN change things, starting by bringing the solution I offer to the tipping point in awareness.
Amica, i Just can repeat to you: most problem of HES always been safety issues. safety means not only technological troubles, but social Ones as well too. ye cannot & have no rights to bring so-called free energy to every idiot on the Holy Earth! :(
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