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Ica Stones of Peru
« on: July 23, 2012, 03:13:28 PM »
Ica Stones of Peru





The Ica Stones are a collection of andesite stones alleged to contain ancient depictions of dinosaurs and advanced technology. They were reportedly discovered in a cave near Ica, Peru not far from the Nazca Lines.

The Ica stones were popularized by Javier Cabrera, a Peruvian doctor who received an engraved stone as a birthday gift in 1961. Cabrera identified the engraving on the stone as a stylized depiction of an "extinct fish" that lived millions of years before.




Carlos and Pablo Soldi, two collectors of artifacts who had failed to interest the archaeological community with their findings, found an interested party in Dr. Cabrera, to whom they sold 341 similar stones. Cabrera soon found another supplier, a peasant named Basilio Uschuya.

From these and other sources, Cabrera collected over 15,000 engraved stones over the next thirty-five years.






Description of the Stones

The stones come in all sizes. There are small ones that can fit in the palm of you hand while others are more massive. All of the stones have images that have been carved with continuous lines etched into the rock surface. The etching reveals a lighter color than the original dark varnish of age, yet the etched grooves also bear traces of this varnish, indicating that the carving was done in ancient times.

They are a form of Andesite, a gray to black volcanic rock, and a very hard mineral that would make etching quite difficult with primitive tools, a local river rock, covered with a patina of natural oxidation. Laboratories in Germany have authenticated the incisions that make up the carvings as extremely ancient. Nearby fossil finds indicate the area to be replete in bone fragments millions of years old.

Unlike clay figurines that have organic material (i.e. straw) in their composition, there are no organic materials in plain old rock that will tell anything of its age. Traditional radiocarbon dating techniques rely upon organic material (that was once alive) to determine age. The surface of these rocks, however, has a varnish that is the result of bacteria and minute organisms which have adhered to them. A good black varnish or patina will take thousands of years to discolor and coat each stone. Etching these rocks would have removed the existing varnish, revealing the bare rock. Since these rocks have developed additional varnish in the grooves, it seems likely that they have were carved a long time ago.




Depictions

Dr. Cabrera's library is organized by subject matter including physical and social sciences (races of man), (nature) ancient animals, geography (lost continents), and prophecy (the knowledge of global catastrophe.)

The stones depict a wide variety of scenes: dinosaurs attacking or helping humans, advanced technology, advanced medical operations, maps, and sexual depictions. While there is a degree of ambiguity that leaves room for differing interpretations, they display definite knowledge of things that are wholly anachronistic. They have caught the attention of many people inclined to question aspects of modern science, and Creationists and others have used the Ica stones to argue against prevailing scientific theories.


Ancient Astronomers and Astronauts







Cabrera attempted to resolve the many scenes into a narrative, and from there to decipher a history of the civilization he believed made the stones. He believed that the ancient technology belonged to what he called Gliptolithic Man, an extraterrestrial race which supposedly arrived sufficiently long ago to coexist with the dinosaurs and then genetically engineered modern man.


The Coiling Snake (DNA) and the Tree of Life


Cup, vessel, womb, or holy grail that receives


the sperm (seeds) for creation


Pyramids, Tiwanaku, Sun Gods of Creation

Dr. Cabrera believed that some time after creating humans and megalithic monuments, the ancient astronauts left, utilizing the nearby Nazca Lines as a spaceport based on the harness of electromagnetic energy for propulsion of space faring vehicles. The entire area was made up of huge iron ore deposits that concentrated magnetic energy, creating an electromagnetic field of extraordinary strength.




Nazca Monkey


Nazca Humming Bird

Dr. Cabrera continued his research with geologists to interpret the maps on several stones showing a weird configuration of the world. Some angles and land masses looked vaguely familiar, but the majority were badly skewered into strange shapes. Geologists have confirmed that based on current computer projections, the shapes indicated on the rocks are indeed accurate for the planet Earth, as it was, about 13,000,000 (million) years ago - pre-stone age.


Stones depicting the continents of ancient Earth


pointing to the existence of unknown continents that today remain a part of our collective mythologies.
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Re: Ica Stones of Peru
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 03:26:17 PM »
Dinosaurs and Other Animals
















Riding a horse long before they were brought to the American Continent








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Re: Ica Stones of Peru
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 03:29:53 PM »
Medical Procedures


Cesearean Section


Heart Surgery: Blood vessels are shown being reconnected via re-absorption tubes utilizing the natural regeneration of cells.


Surgery


Tracheotomy

Other Findings

The stones are reported to have been found in caves and stream beds. Because they are rocks and contain no organic material, Carbon-14 dating cannot be used. No other method of radiometric dating has been applied to the stones. Furthermore, even a confirmation of the rocks' age would not prove that the engravings upon them had not been produced at a later date.

In 1998, Spanish investigator Vicente Paris declared after four years of investigation that the evidence indicates that the stones are a hoax. Among the proofs presented by this investigator were microphotographs of the stones that showed traces of modern paints and abrasives. The strongest evidence of fraud as claimed is the crispness of the shallow engravings; stones of great age should have substantial erosion of the surfaces.

In 1973 Basilio Uschuya confirmed that he had forged the stones during an interview with Erich von Daniken, but later recanted that claim during an interview with a German journalist, saying that he had claimed they were a hoax to avoid imprisonment for selling artifacts.

In 1977, during the BBC documentary Pathway to the Gods, Uschuya produced a "genuine" Ica stone with a dentist's drill and claimed to have produced the patina by baking the stone in cow dung. He continued to make and sell stones.

In 1996, another BBC documentary was released with a skeptical analysis of the stones and the newfound attention to the phenomenon prompted the authorities of Peru to arrest Basilio Uschuya, as under Peruvian law it is illegal to sell archaeological discoveries. Uschuya recanted his claim that he had found them and instead admitted that they were hoaxes, saying "Making these stones is easier than farming the land." He also said that he had not made all the stones. He was not punished, and continued to sell similar stones to tourists as trinkets.

Who actually created the Ica Stones? For now they remain an enigma.


Reprinted from Crystal Links

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Re: Ica Stones of Peru
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 03:35:36 PM »
Ica Stones

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These carved stones found near the town of Ica Peru seem to indicate that the history of the world is not what we've been taught to believe. Are they real or hoaxes?

Ica Stones and Dinosaurs

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The Ica Burial Stones of Peru

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Re: Ica Stones of Peru
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 03:50:57 PM »
Ica stones


An Ica stone depicting dinosaurs. by Brattarb

The Ica stones are a collection of andesite stones that bear a variety of diagrams, including depictions of dinosaurs and what is alleged to be advanced technology. They are not considered to be genuine archeological artifacts but instead have been shown to be trinkets created by Peruvian locals as curiosities or hoaxes.

Description

The stones are composed of andesite and vary in size from pebbles to boulders. They are shallowly engraved with a variety of images, purportedly depicting a variety of scenes:[1][2]

    extinct animals, such as dinosaurs
    advanced medical works
    maps


Popularization by Cabrera


A collection of Ica stones surrounding a portrait of Javier Cabrera by Brattarb

In 1966, Peruvian physician Javier Cabrera Darquea was presented with a stone that had a carved picture of what Cabrera believed to be an extinct fish by a friend for his 42nd birthday. Cabrera's father had begun a collection of similar stones in the 1930s, and based on his interest in Peruvian prehistory, Cabrera began collecting more. He initially purchased more than 300 from two brothers who also collected pre-Incan artifacts, who claimed they had unsuccessfully attempted to interest archaeologists in them. Cabrera later found another source of the stones, a farmer named Basilio Uschuya, who sold him thousands more. Cabrera's collection burgeoned, reaching more than 11,000 stones in the 1970s. Cabrera published a book, The Message of the Engraved Stones of Ica on the subject, discussing his theories of the origins and meaning of the stones. In this he argued that the stones show "that man is at least 405 million years old" and that what he calls gliptolithic man, humans from another planet, and that "Through the transplantation of cognitive codes to highly intelligent primates, the men from outer space created new men on earth."  The Ica stones achieved greater popular interest when Cabrera abandoned his medical career and opened a museum to feature several thousand of the stones in 1996.

In 1973 during an interview with Erich von Däniken, Uschuya stated he had faked the stones. In 1975 Uschuya and another farmer named Irma Gutierrez de Aparcana confirmed that they had forged the stones they gave to Cabrera by copying the images from comic books, text books and magazines. Later Uschuya recanted the forging story during an interview with a German journalist, saying that he had claimed they were a hoax to avoid imprisonment for selling archaeological artifacts. In 1977, during the BBC documentary Pathway to the Gods, Uschuya produced an Ica stone with a dentist's drill and claimed to have produced the patina by baking the stone in cow dung. That same year, another BBC documentary was released with a skeptical analysis of Cabrera's stones, and the newfound attention to the phenomenon prompted Peruvian authorities to arrest Uschuya, as Peruvian law prohibits the sale of archaeological discoveries. Uschuya recanted his claim that he had found them and instead admitted they were hoaxes, saying "Making these stones is easier than farming the land." He engraved the stones using images in books and magazines as examples and knives, chisels and a dental drill.[5] He also said that he had not made all the stones. He was not punished, and continued to sell similar stones to tourists as trinkets. The stones continued to be made and carved by other artists as forgeries of the original forgeries.


Impact

The stones have been used by some creationists attempting to show evidence of humans living in proximity with dinosaurs, a claim for which no evidence exists[6] and that contradicts the well established evidence that the extinction of dinosaurs predates mankind by approximately 65 million years. Believers in ancient astronauts have also attempted to use the stones as evidence of a lost, advanced civilization brought to man from other planets and mytho-historians have claimed them as evidence that ancient myths are accurate histories, neither of which are positions supported in the scientific or academic communities.

In his Encyclopedia of Dubious Archaeology: From Atlantis To The Walam Olum archaeologist Ken Feder commented "The Ica Stones are not the most sophisticated of the archaeological hoaxes discussed in this book, but they certainly rank up there as the most preposterous."


SOURCE: Ica Stones - Wikipedia

Jurassic library - The Ica Stones

Jurassic Library - Philip Coppens




The Message of the Engraved Stones of Ica
Javier Cabrera Darquea


The message of the engraved stones of Ica
Millenium ed.
Javier Cabrera Darquea.
Published 2000 by [s.n.] in Ica, Perú .
Written in English.
About the Book


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At 360 kilometers south of Lima - capital of Peru - in the coastal province of Ica, there were discovered in 1961 some strange and mysterious stones shaped somewhat like river rocks. The strangeness, the mystery of the stones was that they pictured animals, men and ways of life very different from those previously discovered by students of the classical cultures of Peru. The stones came from Ocucaje, an agreeable little town located 40 kilometers south of Ica. In this region, underground, are to he found innumerable graves of men who lived in the times of the Inca and before; lying on the surface of the earth are petrified remains of both tiny and huge prehistoric animals. Ocucaje lies in an immense desert criss-crossed by mounds of ancient rocks, perhaps the oldest on the planet. There, in the solitude of the desert landscape, testimonials to the recent past and the ancient past lie side by side. And if it were not for the small fields that arise on either side of the river - dry most of the year - that crosses the desert, it might be said that this part of the world had died, that time stopped here.

The strange stones were found by the peasants of Ocucaje. Ocucaje lies in the zone where since the beginning of the century the finest ancient textiles and ceramics have been unearthed, and the peasants have dedicated themselves, generation after generation, to the clandestine practice of searching for artifacts. On a clear night, armies of men armed with picks, their faces covered so as not to breath the stench of the graves, protected by amulets to defend them against evil spirits, with the silence as their only witness, perform the enigmatic task of literally uncovering the past. For long hours these moving shadows people the desert; if someone unaware of what they were doing should happen to surprise then at their work, he would think that the dead had abandoned their endless sleep to arise from the grave and take up their lives where death had interrupted them in some unknown moment so long ago.

About the Book
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Re: Ica Stones of Peru
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 03:53:20 PM »
The Jurassic

For those living in the USA and worried about the ice melting with Global Warming and watching the sea levels rising...

If you pick out your state below, I would suggest some of you

BUILD AN ARK  :P


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Re: Ica Stones of Peru
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2012, 04:02:53 PM »
Cool!
I'll be closer to the beach.
But sad to say my original retirement home will be under the waves. :'(

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Re: Ica Stones of Peru
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2012, 05:10:35 PM »
Cool!
I'll be closer to the beach.
But sad to say my original retirement home will be under the waves. :'(

Hope you like fish... because if you look at that map, all the food growing areas are under water... but then. its those sediments that make those areas so fertile today :D

 


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