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i think this fits better here
but  this thread http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10412.msg137371;topicseen#new


 made me go find this article that i read the other day

it seems the cycle of drought and then heavy rain changes the weight of the earth and then the earth shakes..


think about this.. ice is melting  - it's raining a lot  - water has weight

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/arkansas/articles/2017-06-19/reservoir-water-weight-blamed-for-arkansas-earthquake-swarm

Reservoir Water Weight Blamed for Arkansas Earthquake Swarm
Earthquakes that hit the Arkansas Ozarks region recently are being linked to Bull Shoals Lake, which has risen 42 feet since March 1 because of heavy rainfall.

June 19, 2017, at 12:04 p.m.
HARRISON, Ark. (AP) — Earthquakes in northern Arkansas are being linked to the weight of extra water at a flood-swollen reservoir.

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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-oroville-earthquake-20170302-story.html
Oroville Dam faces another risk: Earthquakes from rapid rise in water levels

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really good  vid with this one

http://www.news9.com/story/24792205/a-new-theory-about-whats-causing-oklahomas-earthquakes

Antonides says his research shows that aquifers near the location of certain earthquakes had been depleted, through both drought and increased human demand, and then suddenly refilled, through intense and heavy rains.
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Antonides says his research shows that aquifers near the location of certain earthquakes had been depleted, through both drought and increased human demand, and then suddenly refilled, through intense and heavy rains.

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Antonides' paper lays out evidence that this hydrologic loading could have triggered, not only the Prague earthquake, but last April's 4.3 magnitude quake in Luther, a 5.8 M quake in Virginia in 2011, and others. University of Oklahoma research seismologist Austin Holland says he may be right.

"I think, in some cases," Holland told us, "there's really strong evidence that hydrologic loads can trigger earthquakes."


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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-03/california-floods-trigger-big-one-geologists-warn-quake-risks-snowpack-rising-reserv

California Floods To Trigger "The Big One"? - Geologists Warn Of Quake Risks From Snowpack, Rising Reservoirs

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a bit of history.. history is always interesting

https://www.earthmagazine.org/article/benchmarks-august-17-1959-hebgen-lake-earthquake-and-landslide

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good article..long

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40492957

Giant 'white wanderer' poised to break free
Jonathan Amos
Science correspondent
4 hours ago
 
Everybody is fascinated by icebergs. The idea that you can have blocks of frozen water the size of cities, and bigger, sparks our sense of wonder.

British astronaut Tim Peake photographed one from orbit that would just about fit inside Central London's ring road. But at 26km by 13km (16 miles by 8 miles), it was a tiddler compared with the berg that is about to break away from the eastern side of the Antarctic Peninsula.

A rift has grown across the edge of the Larsen C Ice Shelf. A thin, 5km-long section of the floating shelf is now all that prevents a 6,600-sq-km berg from drifting away into the Weddell Sea.

Think about the size for a moment. That's more than a quarter the area of Wales.



A big berg, certainly, but the largest in the satellite era was almost double this size


Keen to gather some more statistics, scientists have used the Cryosat spacecraft to run the rule over the putative iceberg.

As we all know, blocks of ice sit mostly under the water, and the European Space Agency (Esa) mission has a special radar altimeter that is able to figure out by how much.
From orbit, Cryosat senses the height of the ice sticking above the surface - the so-called freeboard. It's then a relatively simple calculation to work out the draft - the hidden part below water.

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An icy colossus: Big bergs need to be tracked because they can eventually reach shipping lanes

"Cryosat has these two radar antennas that allow us to get an extensive swath across the berg and enable us to build an elevation model," Dr Noel Gourmelen from the University of Edinburgh told BBC News.
“The average thickness calculated from this is 190m, but the largest draft is about 210m. It means the ice is standing about 30m above the water."
Dr Gourmelen says there is an estimated 1,155 cubic km of ice in the would-be berg.

>Iceberg 'doodles' trace climate history
>Antarctica's troublesome 'hairdryer winds'
>The graveyard of giant icebergs

Past tracking history suggests the berg will eventually arc north-east towards the Atlantic Ocean
This is all very useful information because it tells scientists a lot about where and how fast the Larsen object might move once it becomes free. And those are critical details if the berg were to reach shipping lanes to become a navigation hazard.
Bergs are influenced by winds and currents, of course, but a couple of other factors also come in to play simply because of the Larsen object's sheer bulk. Remarkably, one is a gravitational effect.

The mass of Antarctica pulls the water higher near its coasts compared with the centre of the ocean - by something like half a metre. The Larsen berg will actually slide down this slope. But that's only if its keel doesn’t then snag on the ocean bottom.


Ploughmarks: The keels of icebergs will cut deep channels in sea-floor sediments
The waters close to Antarctica are shallow and there's a good chance the berg will dig in, gouging a huge trough in the seafloor as it then turns round. Cryosat's thickness information tells researchers where the berg can and cannot go.
It's called "kedging" - a term used by sailors, coined from the use of the kedge anchor to manipulate the course of a vessel, explains Dr Mark Drinkwater, one of Esa's senior Earth observation scientists.
“The icebergs often shoal and pivot or spin around their grounding point, resulting in stop and go motion or a change in direction. So, the iceberg from Larsen C could take some time before it escapes the shallow bathymetry of the western Weddell Sea."
Dr Anna Hogg from Leeds University added: "That said, it's not impossible it could simply become stuck on some high-rise topography on the ocean floor. We've seen that before where an iceberg becomes a semi-permanent ice island in the Weddell Sea."
The expectation, however, is that the berg will bump and grind its way northward in near-coast currents, along the Peninsula.

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MIAC #24 Visible Changes to Earth's Climate as the Grand Solar Minimum Intensifies

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Published on Jun 29, 2017
A new report and video out from NASA about the upcoming "solar minimum", they phrased it so that there is no mention of the "grand solar minimum" which will send Earth's weather patterns out of sync, so I tried my best to fill in the missing pieces of the cosmic ray increases, strength of the next solar cycle, weather changes and electrical changes in our atmosphere, the electric universe and the cause - effect relation ship of it all. Mostly the crop loss aspect which is encountered by every society during a grand solar minimum.




Unprecedented - 30 wildfires/9 states - "Turning livestock loose to run from wildfires"

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Published on Jun 29, 2017
**Millions of acres are at risk it is so incredibly dry**
Nationally, 30 large fires have burned nearly 180,000 acres.

Twenty new large fires were reported in nine states. More than 8,000 firefighters and support personnel are assigned to wildfires across the country. Firefighters contained 11 wildfires yesterday.



At 2 p.m. MDT, the National Multiagency Coordinating Group increased the national preparedness level to PL3 due to the increase in large fire activity in multiple geographic areas.



Weather: A strong ridge of high pressure centered over the Yukon and Northwest Territories will keep eastern portions of the Alaskan interior warm and dry. There will be a slight chance for isolated thunderstorms along the North Slope and east of Fairbanks. Western portions of the state will be wet under the influence of a stalled frontal system.

A broad trough over the Pacific Northwest through the Northern Great Plains will keep temperatures near normal across much of the west. Slightly breezy conditions are expected across the Great Basin and Central Rockies.

Across the Southwest, monsoonal moisture will continue to ooze northward into New Mexico and southeastern Arizona and will lead to another round of scattered wet storms in the afternoon.


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Extreme UV in Massachusetts - "Full Throttle on 4th of July" - Team UV High in MA!

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Published on Jul 4, 2017
July 4, 2017: Relevant data you need to know...Be safe out there.


**TEAM UV Record UV reading from Massachusetts today....yes, Massachusetts!**

(Brian, the Field Operator detected his highest UV reading from Massachusetts which was the highest for the entire country on this day for our team!)

*What is Extreme UV?*

A UV Index reading of 11 or more means extreme risk of harm from unprotected sun exposure. Take all precautions because unprotected skin and eyes can burn in minutes. 
Try to avoid sun exposure between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m.
If outdoors, seek shade and wear protective clothing, a wide-brimmed hat, and UV-blocking sunglasses.
Generously apply broad spectrum SPF 30+ non-toxic sunscreen every 2 hours, even on cloudy days, and after swimming or sweating.


Watch out for bright surfaces, like sand, water and snow, which reflect UV and increase exposure. *Excellent Sunblock Brand* "BADGER"




Record Cold July in Arctic & Squaw Valley & Tahoe First Time Ever July 4th Skiing

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Published on Jul 4, 2017
Contrary to what the media is rattling off about above normal temperatures in the Arctic, the Danish Meteorological Institute (DMI) shows that temperatures are record low and just 1C above freezing. Also for the first time ever in history Squaw Valley and Tahoe ski areas will remain open for July 4th skiing and beyond. There is still so much snow up in the mountains that mountain biking and hiking is dangerous because of the still deep snows.




*Unprecedented* - 400,000 evacuated as 15.6 inches of rain falls in 4 hours!

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Published on Jul 5, 2017
Some 400,000 people have been ordered or advised to evacuate on Wednesday, July 5, 2017 after extreme amounts of rain hit western Japan, causing major floods and landslides.

As of late afternoon (local time), at least one person has been killed and 6 are still missing, believed to be buried under mud or swept away by raging rivers. Parts of Fukuoka Prefecture saw 398 mm (15.6 inches) of rain within just 4 hours, more than the region usually receives during the entire month of July. Heavy rain is expected to continue at least until Thursday night.

Japan Meteorological Agency
http://www.jma.go.jp/en/gms/smallc.html?area=6&element=0&time=201707052050
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Catastrophic flood affects 10 million - 40,000+ homes collapse - MASSIVE river sets record

MrMBB333
Published on Jul 4, 2017
Massive rivers in central and south central China are at maximum capacity and the overflow is flooding millions of people from historic rainfall that began just a few days ago.

Dozens of people have perished and many are missing. 10's of thousands of homes have been wiped out by the incredible force of the flood waters.

At least 33 people have been killed and 15 are still missing since June 22, 2017 in at least 8 central and southern provinces of China, including Hunan, Hubei, Anhui, Sichuan, and Guizhou, China’s Ministry of Civil Affairs said today.

Water levels in more than 60 rivers have recently risen above warning levels. Xiangjiang River in Changsha, the capital of Hunan, reached a record high of 39.51 meters (129.6 feet) early July 3, higher than the previous record of 39.18 meters (128.54 feet) set by a massive flood in 1998.



Between 100 and 300 mm (3.9 - 11.8 inches) of rain were recorded since June 29 in central and southern Guizhou, Guangxi, Hunan, northern Jiangxi, eastern Hubei, southern Anhui and other parts. Guilin, Guangxi, Jiujiang, Loudi and Xiangtan recorded between 420 and 486 mm (16.5 - 19.1 inches).

On July 1, Guilin, Wuzhou, Yongzhou, and Xiangtan saw between 200 - 240 mm (7.9 and 9.4 inches), Gullin registered between 250 - 407 mm (9.8 - 16 inches), and the largest three-hour rainfall of 150 - 203 mm (5.9 - 8 inches).



In Hunan Province, the worst hit, floods affected 6.616 million people, 24 people were killed and 8 are still missing. 16 000 houses collapsed and 171 000 were damaged.

Bangladesh could see the same in coming days as climate conditions are favorable for more intense flooding events. Bangladesh is home to over 160 million people.




Media Black out on EXTREME WEATHER in Spain? Plus Solar Update!

The Grand Solar Minimum
Published on Jul 5, 2017
Why are no major outlets reporting?




Huge energy beams appear over the South Atlantic on MIMIC - 1000 miles wide!

MrMBB333
July 5 2017




Yellowstone Volcano: Earthquake M5.8 150 miles From Yellowstone, Damage, Power Out, Gas leaks

Mary Greeley
Published on Jul 6, 2017
Lincoln, Montana is without power. Broken windows in Butte, MT.




7/6/17 4am earthquake update dutchsinse - Missing earthquake consequences - YouTube




7/6/17 5am earthquake update dutchsinse - M5.2 hits near Vanatu

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Yellowstone is Freaking Out - 5 8 Mag Earthquake & Yearly Levels reached in 1 month, July, 2017


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Published on Jul 6, 2017
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Utica Flash Flood: State of Emergency

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Published on Jul 2, 2017
A different community gets washed away three times a week, and Mother Nature, has exactly nothing to do with it. Anyone with eyes can look at GOES radar every day, and see it for themselves. Yesterday it was Upstate New York, today it is going to be the middle of the country, and it will be somewhere else tomorrow.



So, as Americans go about trying desperately trying to get a brief respite from wage slavery and incessant meme-driven misdirection and distraction, they will be forced to contend with flash floods, hail, and tornadoes.

Happy “Independence Day.”




7/08/2017 -- USA on Earthquake watch + M5.6 strikes W. Pacific as expected
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Lightning Strikes Split Cone Geyser @ Yellowstone Geyser Basin
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Published on Jul 8, 2017




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http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/giant-antarctic-iceberg-breaks-free-of-larsen-c-ice-shelf/ar-BBEh4LP?li=BBnb7Kz

Giant Antarctic iceberg breaks free of Larsen C ice shelf
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Nicola Davis
3 hrs ago


Photo gallery by Reuters

A giant iceberg twice the size of Luxembourg has broken off an ice shelf on the Antarctic peninsula and is now adrift in the Weddell Sea.

Reported to be “hanging by a thread” last month, the iceberg was found to have split off from the Larsen C section of the Larsen ice shelf on Wednesday morning after scientists examined the latest satellite data from the area.

The Larsen C ice shelf is now 10% smaller than before the iceberg broke off – or “calved” – an event that researchers say has changed the shape of the Antarctic peninsula.

At 5,800 sq km the new iceberg is half as big as the record-holding iceberg B-15 which split off from the Ross ice shelf in the year 2000, but it is nonetheless believed to be among the 10 largest icebergs ever recorded.

“It is a really major event in terms of the size of the ice tablet that we’ve got now drifting away,” said Anna Hogg, an expert in satellite observations of glaciers from the University of Leeds.

The huge crack that spawned the new iceberg grew over a period of years, but between 25 May and 31 May alone, the rift grew by 17km – the largest increase since January. Between the 24 June and 27 June the movement of the ice sped up, reaching a rate of more than 10 metres per day for the already-severed section.

But in the end it wasn’t a simple break – data collected just days before the iceberg calved revealed that the rift had branched multiple times, meaning that several small icebergs have also been formed.


Unlike thin layers of sea ice, ice shelves are floating masses of ice, hundreds of metres thick, which are attached to huge, grounded ice sheets. These ice shelves act like buttresses, holding back and slowing down the movement into the sea of the glaciers that feed them.

“There is enough ice in Antarctica that if it all melted, or even just flowed into the ocean, sea levels [would] rise by 60 metres,” said Martin Siegert, professor of geosciences at Imperial College London and co-director of the Grantham Institute for Climate Change & Environment.

But while the birth of the huge iceberg might look dramatic, experts say it will not itself result in sea level rises. “It’s like your ice cube in your gin and tonic – it is already floating and if it melts it doesn’t change the volume of water in the glass by very much at all,” said Hogg.

Following the collapse of the Larsen A ice shelf in 1995 and Larsen B in 2002, all eyes have turned to Larsen C.

But Siegert is quick to point out that the calving of the new iceberg is not a sign that the ice shelf is about to disintegrate, stressing that ice shelves naturally break up as they extend further out into the ocean. “I am not unduly concerned about it – it is not the first mega iceberg ever to have formed,” he said.

Andrew Shepherd, professor of Earth Observation at Leeds University, agreed. “Everyone loves a good iceberg, and this one is a corker,” he said. “But despite keeping us waiting for so long, I’m pretty sure that Antarctica won’t be shedding a tear when it’s gone because the continent loses plenty of its ice this way each year, and so it’s really just business as usual!”

Adrian Luckman, professor of glaciology at Swansea University and leader of the UK’s Midas project which is focused on the state of the ice shelf, said that while the ice shelf might continue to shed icebergs, others have suggested it might regrow.

He added that it took seven years after the release of a large iceberg from Larsen B before the ice shelf became unstable and disintegrated, and stressed that while large melt ponds were seen on Larsen B prior to its collapse - features which are thought to have affected the structure of the ice shelf - those seen on Larsen C are far smaller and are not even present at this time of year.

While climate change is accepted to have played a role in the wholesale disintegration of the Larsen A and Larsen B ice shelves to the north, Luckman emphasised that there is no evidence that the calving of the giant iceberg is linked to such processes.

Twila Moon, a glacier expert at the US National Ice and Snow Data Center agrees but, she said, climate change could have made the situation more likely.

“Certainly the changes that we see on ice shelves, such as thinning because of warmer ocean waters, are the sort [of changes] that are going to make it easier for these events to happen,” she said.

The progress of the rift, and the loss of the iceberg, has been carefully followed by analysis of radar images from the European Space Agency’s Sentinel-1 mission, which provides data from the region every six days. “Before we would have been lucky if we had got one satellite image a year of an event like this, so we would not have been able to watch it unfold,” said Hogg, pointing out that the radar system allows data to be collected whatever the weather and in the dark, while technological advances mean more data that can be downloaded than for previous satellites.

The news of the giant iceberg comes after US president Donald Trump announced that the US will be withdrawing from the 2015 Paris climate accord – an agreement signed by more than 190 countries to tackle global warming. “Truly I am dismayed,” said Moon of the move.

Now at the mercy of the ocean currents, the newly calved iceberg could last for decades, depending on whether it enters warmer waters or bumps into other icebergs or ice shelves.


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But while the birth of the huge iceberg might look dramatic, experts say it will not itself result in sea level rises. “It’s like your ice cube in your gin and tonic – it is already floating and if it melts it doesn’t change the volume of water in the glass by very much at all,” said Hogg.


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Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
« Reply #352 on: August 01, 2017, 09:13:30 PM »






ahhhhhhhhh can the great lakes have too much water ?










http://woodtv.com/blog/2017/06/23/great-lakes-water-levels-90/

Great Lakes Water Levels June 23, 2017
By Bill Steffen under Bill's Blog, News, Weather

All of the Great Lakes water levels remain well above average. 

The level of Lake Michigan/Huron is up 4″ in the last month, up 3 inches year-to-year and is now 15″ above the June average level.  Lake Superior is also up 4″ in the last month and up 3″ year-to-year.  Superior is now 11″ above the June average level and only 2″ below the all-time highest June level set in 1986.  Lake Erie is unchanged in the last month and is up 9″ in the last year.  Erie is 19″ above the June long-term average.  Lake Ontario is down 4″ in the last month, but it’s still 30″ higher than one year ago!  Ontario is still at the highest June level ever.  It’s 62″ higher than the lowest all-time June level set in 1935. 





http://www.lre.usace.army.mil/Missions/Great-Lakes-Information/Great-Lakes-Water-Levels/Water-Level-Forecast/Weekly-Great-Lakes-Water-Levels/

ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS WEEKLY GREAT LAKES WATER LEVEL UPDATE
Jul 28, 2017
 
WEATHER CONDITIONS
Over the last week temperatures in the Great Lakes Basin have generally been above average. Precipitation fell through much of the basin this past week, but heading into next week expect less rainfall.  Over the entire month precipitation has been just below average over the entire Great Lakes Basin. The Lake Ontario Basin has received the most precipitation while the Lake Superior Basin has seen the least. The basin is expected to see more average summer temperatures over the weekend.
LAKE LEVEL CONDITIONS
 Each of the Great Lakes remains above their respective long term July average and are expected to remain above average for the rest of the month. All of the lakes except Lakes Erie and Ontario have risen over the last 30 days with Lake Superior being 2 inches above its level a month ago. Lakes Michigan-Huron and St. Clair are 2 and 3  inches above their level a month ago, respectively, while Lake Ontario is 6 inches lower than last month. As the summer progresses, the Great Lakes system is expected to see the lakes begin their seasonal declines. Lake Superior is expected to remain about the same over the next month while Lakes Michigan-Huron, St. Clair, Erie and Ontario are expected to decline 1, 3, 5, and 8 inches respectively over the next month. See our Daily Levels web page for more water level information.
FORECASTED MONTHLY OUTFLOWS/CHANNEL CONDITIONS
Lake Superior’s outflow through the St. Marys River is projected to be above average in July. Lake Michigan-Huron’s outflow into the St. Clair River, and Lake St. Clair’s outflow through the Detroit River are also predicted to be above average. Lake Erie’s outflow into the Niagara River is forecasted to be above average, and outflow of Lake Ontario into the St. Lawrence River is projected to be above average for the month of July as well.
ALERTS
Official records are based on monthly average water levels and not daily water levels. Users of the Great Lakes, connecting channels and St. Lawrence River should keep informed of current conditions before undertaking any activities that could be affected by changing water levels. Mariners should utilize navigation charts and refer to current water level readings. Ice information can be found at the National Ice Center’s website.
SUPERIOR
MICH-HURON
ST. CLAIR
ERIE
ONTARIO
Forecasted Water Level for Jul 28, 2017 (feet)
602.89
580.74
576.48
573.49
248.16
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http://www.twincities.com/2017/06/13/great-lakes-water-levels-this-summer-expected-to-be-highest-in-decades/

Great Lakes water levels this summer expected to be highest in decades
The Great Lakes Hydraulics and Hydrology Office at the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers’ Detroit district announced Monday in its six-month water level forecast that summer water levels on lakes Superior, Michigan-Huron, St. Clair and Erie will be at their highest since 1996-1998.

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Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
« Reply #353 on: August 30, 2017, 08:37:35 PM »
  well when you can't find anything on line about climate change then we must assume that nothing is happening..i mean if something WAS happening it would be reported..right?...nah it would only be fake news
we are so f**kin screwed


http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40686984

Sea level fears as Greenland darkens
David Shukman     24 July 2017

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The Greenland ice sheet covers an area about seven times the size of the UK
Scientists are "very worried" that the melting of the Greenland ice sheet could accelerate and raise sea levels more than expected.
They say warmer conditions are encouraging algae to grow and darken the surface.
Dark ice absorbs more solar radiation than clean white ice so warms up and melts more rapidly.
Currently the Greenland ice sheet is adding up to 1mm a year to the rise in the global average level of the oceans.
It is the largest mass of ice in the northern hemisphere covering an area about seven times the size of the United Kingdom and reaching up to 3km (2 miles) in thickness.
This means that the average sea level would rise around the world by about seven metres, more than 20ft, if it all melted.
That is why Greenland, though remote, is a focus of research which has direct relevance to major coastal cities as far apart as Miami, London and Shanghai and low-lying areas in Bangladesh and parts of Britain.
Algae were first observed on the Greenland ice sheet more than a century ago but until recently its potential impact was ignored. Only in the last few years have researchers started to explore how the microscopically small plants could affect future melting.
A five-year UK research project known as Black and Bloom is under way to investigate the different species of algae and how they might spread, and then to use this knowledge to improve computer projections of future sea level rise.
The possibility of biologically inspired melting was not included in the estimates for sea level rise published by the UN's climate panel, the IPCC, in its latest report in 2013.

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That study said the worst-case scenario was a rise of 98cm by the end of the century.
One concern now is that rising temperatures will allow algae to flourish not only on the slopes of the narrow margins of the ice-sheet but also on the flat areas in the far larger interior where melting could happen on a much bigger scale.
We joined the latest phase of research in which scientists set up camp on the ice-sheet to gather accurate measurements of the "albedo" or the amount of solar radiation reflected by the surface.
White snow reflects up to 90% of solar radiation while dark patches of algae will only reflect about 35% or even as little as 1% in the blackest spots.
When we flew by helicopter onto the ice sheet, the rolling landscape seemed surprisingly grey - my first impression was that it looked dirty.

Much of the surface was covered with what looked like patches of soot and it was pockmarked with countless holes at the bottom of which were pitch-black layers of a mix of algae, bacteria and minerals known as cryoconite.
Prof Martyn Tranter of Bristol University, who is leading the project, told me:
"People are very worried about the possibility that the ice sheet might be melting faster and faster in the future.
"We suspect that in a warming climate these dark algae will grow over larger and larger parts of the Greenland ice sheet and it might well be that they will cause more melting and an acceleration of sea level rise.
"Our project is trying to understand just how much melting might occur."
Over the last 20 years, Greenland has been losing more ice than it gains through snowfall in winter - a change in a natural balance that normally keeps the ice-sheet stable.

And one of the project scientists, Dr Andrew Tedstone, a glaciologist and also of Bristol University, said that over much of the same period, images from the MODIS satellite showed a darkening trend with the years of greatest dark producing most meltwater.
He said: "We still don't think we've reached a point where we've seen the maximum darkness that we're going to see in this area so the fieldwork we're doing is to try to find out in a warming climate 'do we think the area is going to get any darker than we've already seen in the last 15 years?'"
Earlier research had found that the ice sheet is covered with a range of contaminants carried on the winds including dust and soot from as far away as Canadian prairie fires and the industrial heartlands of China, America and Europe.
But studies over the past five years have shown that the majority of the dark material may be biological with different kinds of algae turning the ice black, brown, green and even mauve.
"This is a living landscape," according to Dr Joe Cook, a glacial microbiologist at Sheffield University.
"This is an extremely difficult place for anything to live but, as we look around us, all this darkness we can see on the ice surface is living - algae, microbes, living and reproducing in the ice sheet and changing its colour."

"We know they're very widespread and we know that they're very dark and we know that that's accelerating melt but that's not something that's built into any of our climate projections - and that's something that needs to change."
The final phase of the Black and Bloom project involves weaving the new factor of biological darkening into climate models to come up with revised estimates for future sea level rise.
And, as Dr Cook explained, the retreat of the Greenland ice sheet does not need to be total to have a widespread and damaging impact.
"When we say the ice sheet is melting faster, no one saying it's all going to melt in next decade or the next 100 years or even the next 1,000 years but it doesn't all have to melt for more people to be in danger - only a small amount has to melt to threaten millions in coastal communities around world."
Meanwhile, another factor that may be driving the melting has been identified by an Austrian member of the team, Stefan Hofer, a PhD student at Bristol.
In a paper recently published in Science Advances, he analysed satellite imagery and found that over the past 20 years there has been a 15% decrease in cloud cover over Greenland in the summer months.
"It was definitely a 'wow' moment," he told me.
Although temperature is an obvious driver of melting, the paper estimated that two-thirds of additional melting, above the long-term average, was attributable to clearer skies.
What is not known is how this might affect the algae. Their darker pigments are believed to be a protection from ultra violet light - so more sunshine might encourage that process of darkening or prove to be damaging to them.
The Black and Bloom project, funded by the Natural Environment Research Council (Nerc), aims to publish its new projections for sea level rise in two years' time.

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« Reply #354 on: August 30, 2017, 08:41:34 PM »


http://www.nature.com/news/us-science-envoy-resigns-in-protest-at-trump-policies-1.22510

US science envoy resigns in protest at Trump policies
Energy researcher Daniel Kammen faults US president’s positions on climate change and energy and his failure to condemn white supremacists.

Jeff Tollefson
23 August 2017

An energy researcher at the University of California, Berkeley, resigned his post as a science envoy for the US Department of State on 21 August, citing US President Donald Trump’s “attacks on the core values of the United States”.

In a resignation letter addressed to Trump, Daniel Kammen joined political leaders from both major parties who have criticized the president’s equivocal response to violent demonstrations by white supremacists in Charlottesville, Virginia, on 12 August. Kammen also condemned the Trump administration’s “destructive” policies on energy and the environment, which he said have affected his work as a science envoy. Such policies include the president’s decision to pull the United States out of the 2015 Paris climate pact.

“Your presence in the White House harms the United States domestically and abroad and threatens life on this planet,” wrote Kammen, whose term as an envoy was set to end next month. The first letter of each paragraph in his message forms an acrostic that spells out the word “impeach”.

Former president Barack Obama created the science envoy programme in 2010 to boost outreach and partnerships with predominantly Muslim countries. The effort, which is run by the state department, has since expanded to cover more countries. Kammen is one of 18 scientists who have taken part in the envoy programme; his work in Africa and the Middle East has focused on national security, jobs and sustainable energy.

The White House did not immediately respond to requests for comment. A state department official confirmed that Kammen was one of three active science envoys and said the department is in the process of appointing more. The official declined to comment on Kammen’s resignation letter.

Andrew Rosenberg, who heads the Center for Science and Democracy at the Union of Concerned Scientists in Cambridge, Massachusetts, says that Kammen’s letter illustrates the moral and ethical quandaries that Trump’s policies have created for scientists who serve the US government.

“For the science envoys like Dan, where you are going and representing the United States, it’s particularly difficult,” Rosenberg says. “It’s a personal struggle that everyone has to go through.”

Another science envoy, ecologist Thomas Lovejoy of George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia, says that he understands and respects Kammen’s decision to resign. Nonetheless, Lovejoy has elected to continue in his work on biodiversity and sustainability with Amazon rainforest nations, including Peru, Columbia and Brazil. That includes working to advance an agreement between the United States and Peru to address a spike in illegal gold mining in the western Amazon.

“I’ve seen how catalytic this kind of thing can be,” Lovejoy says of his envoy efforts. “I’m just personally going ahead and doing what I think needs to be done.”


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Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
« Reply #355 on: September 22, 2017, 04:54:58 AM »
Major water receding again: Ocean mysteriously disappears in Brazil and anomalous tides in Chile

"There is something really weird happening along the Atlantic and Pacific coasts these last weeks.
Water is receding along the Atlantic coast, while Pacific waters are expanding and flooding parts of Chile. And this exact same phenomenon occurred two days ago AGAIN.

Two weeks ago, the sea mysteriously receded in Uruguay and Brazil. At the same time, on the other side of the South American continent, huge waves were crashing on the beaches of northern Chile."

http://strangesounds.org/2017/08/major-water-receding-again-ocean-mysteriously-disappears-in-brazil-video.html.


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Apparently this occured back in August of 2017 but I don't see much info from mainstream news outlets.

Video compitation of some of the events.  Pay no mind to commentary, I added video just for the substance.




Any thoughts ArMaP?  Isn't this around your neck of the woods?

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« Reply #356 on: September 22, 2017, 06:10:59 AM »
Any thoughts ArMaP?  Isn't this around your neck of the woods?
It depends, the Atlantic, yes, but on the north side, I'm in Portugal, not in Brasil. :)

But we have at least one member from Brasil, RUSSO.

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« Reply #357 on: September 22, 2017, 06:54:26 AM »
Sorry, For some reason I thought you were in Chile.  Must be another timeline collapse changing things again.  ;D

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« Reply #358 on: September 23, 2017, 02:16:40 AM »
Roll Call -

Its September 23rd 2017 10:12 am in the UK, and you cannot imagine my relief that I woke up alive this am!

I was fully expecting a event of biblical proportions to have affected me/Earth after seeing and hearing so many vids and news articles about the alignment of so many solar bodies, and that pesky brown dwarf, and its companions coming to a solar system near me/us..  :) ;)

Is everyone else who is normally here, still alive and kicking/not screaming and in general good health ?   8)

Sound off..  ;D

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« Reply #359 on: September 23, 2017, 08:19:40 AM »
I'm still here, but we don't know what time zone the Apocalypse uses, so it's better to wait a little longer.  :P

 


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