Edgar Fouche had written this debunk of Anonymous The Deathbed Ex-CIA Deathbed Confession It took me some searching to find this I remember when we went over this it was years ago already time flies.
This video you can see Jeremy Corbell @ 19 seconds and his buddy Richard Dolan with guest "Kewper Stein" This man has read and watched far too many YouTube videos and has blended several stories together. I know that Linda Moulton Howe contacted Richard Dolan and had him go meet this man saying he wa the rel deal... Ok that's how they do there research no fact checking...
Intro: No name, no credentials, no documents, and no previous history of work or disclosure. Age 77 at the time this was filmed sometime around 2014
He can easily be disproved as being ANY ex-CIA director. Why? He's too old to be prosecuted & the Statute of Limitations have long run out in his case.
VIDEO TIMELINE00:10If he were dying he would be in a hospital bed and not walking around a cheap hotel.
Look at the video, this is not a hospital or hospital room.
It is a hotel room with typical TV, Clock Radio, window A/C, and phone.
You can see Dolan's notes on the bed and his luggage and recording equipment.
The man is using a walker, NOT a wheelchair.
00:15This guy says he is dying of kidney problems.
He wants us to believe him but he keeps using the words 'blood cleansing' instead of dialysis.
He has the most normal looking skin I've ever seen for a person dying of kidney problems.
He would have a jaundice look to his skin.
This is obviously NOT a 'Deathbed Confession.' Really!
00:45"That's why I'm going along with the interview at this time."
00:55Military career... "I was 'drafted' into the military." - "US Army"
Born 1936 and he would have been 17 when the Korean War ended in 1953.
Congress passed the Universal Military Training and Service Act in 1951 to meet the demands of the war.
It lowered the induction age to 18½ and extended active-duty service commitments to 24 months during the war.
So it's impossible he was drafted as he was too young for the Korean War and too old to draft during the Vietnam war.
01:10"I was sent to the Signal training center," - instead of the 'Army Signal Corps.'
01:16"In the Eastern United States" - What state?
"What year would this have been?" REPLY: "1958'
That means he was 22 years old at that point.
01:30"I went through the 'radio teletype' course." "Also cryptography... crypto course." "They pulled the top five students to be instructors"
This is possible. Not unheard of.
02:00"After one day my boss came to me."
He would have used the term 'my Sergeant' instead of boss.
02:10"He (the boss) said how would you like to make some extra money."
There would be no extra money for an enlisted man doing work with any three letter agency back then.
02:40"I would have to get a Top Secret White House 'Q' Clearance."
Even back then, in 1958, it would have taken at least 1 year to get a Top Secret clearance.
Remember the Cold War?
Not to mention further time to get the appropriate SAPs & SCIs, to be at Area 51, Groom AFB.
And be able to brief the President when this guy was only about 22 years old is impossible.
The 'Q' clearance? Q clearance is only awarded if you need to know or have access to Nuclear related data or programs. Period!
02:42"He said I'm the Eastern Director for the CIA."
He's talking about his military boss at the Army training school one day after becoming an instructor.
So his military boss was ALSO the Eastern Director of the CIA? He would have been a 'Deputy Director' at best.
But his military boss couldn't possibly have been CIA.
02:50"After about six weeks my security clearance came through."
That would be impossible even if he were the President of the US.
03:00"My CIA card was like a credit card." (sic 1958) "slice it and just walk in"
IBM engineered the world’s first magnetic stripe card in the early 1960s under contract with the government, and were implemented into military security systems in the late 60s.
Card readers used a bar type code (late 1960s) or a magnetic strip.
In order to scan a bar code you need a optical OCR scan device that translates the code to verify it and activate an open door or alarm response.
With a magnetic strip you need a magnetic tape head reader that also sends the digital data to a translator to activate the opening of the door for access or sending an alarm.
In either case you are talking about computer, optical, and digital technology not available in the 1950s.
("In the early 1970s we were using security door locks where you had to push in six numbers to gain access. Then a few years later each person had his own number assigned to punch in. In the late 70s we were using photo ID cards with the magnetic strips on the back and your picture on the front. In the early 80s we were using a magnetic cards with a palm reader. By the 90s we were using iris scanners, but they had a lot of problems with them back then because of changes in the iris from people who had diabetes and their high or low blood sugar would change the refraction of the iris scanner results." Edgar Fouche)
Wiegand (embedded ferromagnetic wires) and Proximity (LC circuit with magnetic field within less than 20 inches - 1985) cards and readers are still popular.
03:15"I used an artificial name"
Never. It would be term like alias, assumed name, designation name, moniker, or pseudonym. NOT "Artificial Name"
03:25"I started working with him (CIA director) on Project Bluebook"
{Project Blue Book (1952-1970) had a small staff. Brad Steiger's wife Sherry worked for Hyneck. There were NO CIA personnel on the Project Bluebook Staff.}
03:40"Cases we got from Fort Bellville Maryland" (sic Bluebook)
Fort BELLVILLE? He doesn't even know the name of the Fort. Fort Belvoir is in Virginia not Maryland
04:25"I always stayed state wise"
A military man would have used the term CONUS, meaning Continental United States. Or at least State Wide. Never 'State Wise.'
04:50"I was coming in the Army from Fresh Off The Farm so didn't know hardly anything."
So he admits he had no higher education or special skills or talents. Why use experienced scientists or career military men when we have farm boys?
Yep, that's how the military picks people for Special White House and CIA Top Secret programs. LOL !!
06:00I had to take a vow" "...for forty years, ...and fifty years."
Never heard it called a vow. It's called Secrecy Oath and you have to Sign this 'agreement' it before you work on a Classified Program and it has a termination period.
"it's up in 2010" Doesn't he know it's 2013 or is this an three year old interview? Doesn't make sense.
06:25Anyone else notice at 6:25 right after he says "project" it's clear they edited it but I wonder why?
06:30"The Project Bluebook thing went kind of pop:
He's referring to the Fall of 1958 but Bluebook didn't end until 1970.
07:00"Boss says we have a new assignment"
"We're going to the Capital to help Eisenhower see about these Aliens..
So the CIA boss who started off as his military boss is telling him this?
07:40"President Eisenhower and Nixon were there and said we called the people from MJ-12, Area 51, and S-4 in.. and they said we had no jurisdiction over them.'
No one has ever related that anyone from MJ-12 was at Area 51 or Groom AB.
S-4 has been debunked dozens of times as not being at Papoose dry lake and is a Radar site at Tonopah AB.
8:45"He says Eisenhower tells him to tell the People at Area-51 and S4 that he will invade and take over the base with the "First Army from Colorado"
Research "The First Army" was never were in Colorado.
"Tell whoever is in charge"
The President and Vice President don't know who is in charge? That was highly unlikely during Eisenhower's administration. He was the five star general in World War II.
09:10"They took us the 15 miles south to S-4 ...It had different garage door openings.
To this day Papoose dry lake which is SOUTH of Groom AB has NO facilities. Geologists have been there, satellite photos show NO improved roads, parking areas, lights, or entrances as Lazar claimed. Half of Papoose is not even in the Area 51 No Fly Zone.
However the radar Site S-4 is NORTH of Groom AB at TTR.
There were no automatic garage door openings in the late 50s.
The military would have referred to them as 'Hanger' doors.
09:30"They had different saucer craft"
He's just repeating the stories of Bob Lazar and his followers who copied the same disinformation.
"It was kind of crashed up"
10:20"I got the mathematical code for reversing gravity."
And my favorite was that he got a 3x5 card with math code to reverse gravity, Sure just math, what didn't they have physics back then?
10:30"They were interviewing a grey alien" - "This one looked a little bit Oriental."
He describes the typical grey alien from fiction books and science fiction movies. Not one thing new or different.
12:30He says President Eisenhower didn't know there were aliens for sure.
Well if the MJ-12, Area 51, and non-S4 bosses told Eisenhower he had no authority then why would they have let this Army Grunt from the farm and his military/CIA? boss in to see the alien craft and the alien?
12:50"Went back to Area 51 and they took us into the main building" "...we saw a U-2, which we didn't know existed."
A U-2 would have been in a HANGER or on the Flight-line/ramp. not in something you would describe as a 'main building.'
So far the way he describes this if you listen carefully, it all took place up till this point in less than a year.
President Dwight Eisenhower personally signed off on the U-2 acquisition.
Officials from the CIA, Air Force and Lockheed, the contractor building the U-2, began moving into the facility in July 1955.
The site was selected for the U-2 program in 1955 after an aerial survey by CIA and Air Force staff.
13:00"...and a model of the SR-71."
The Lockheed A-12 was a reconnaissance aircraft built for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) by Lockheed's famed Skunk Works,
based on the designs of Clarence "Kelly" Johnson.
The A-12 was produced from 1962 to 1964, and was in operation from 1963 until 1968. The single-seat design, which first flew in April 1962, was the precursor to both the twin-seat U.S. Air Force YF-12 prototype interceptor and the famous SR-71 Blackbird reconnaissance aircraft.
So he's speaking of 1958 or 1959 and the prototype of the A-12 wasn't even built before the 60s.
13:40"...flew back on President Eisenhower's Lockheed Electra"
The Lockheed L-188 Electra is an American turboprop airliner built by Lockheed. First flying in 1957, it was the first large turboprop airliner built in the United States. Initial sales were good, but after two fatal crashes led to expensive modifications to fix a design defect, no more were ordered.
I can find no reference to President Eisenhower ever being on a Lockheed Electra.
President Dwight D. Eisenhower selected the Lockheed Constellation L-049 as his "Air Force One", and named it "Colombine" after his wife's state flower from Colorado
14:00Meeting Eisenhower "...the old OSS warehouse building" "...President Hoover was there." Hoover would have been almost 80 in 1958.
Office of Strategic Services, the forerunner of the CIA.
Below is the location of the buildings for the OSS during WWII and some CIA still work in these off limits buildings.
15:40..."Lynda Moulton Howe's phone call, her phone was tapped. They got my phone number... through the phone company..."
Well you mean the NSA couldn't find him with all their spyware, or Homeland Security? WTF
15:50"When they found you what happened" (Dolan)
Response from old guy...
"Two guys in black suits in a Lincoln Town Car..."
Production of the Lincoln Town Car was stopped in 2010 and the 2011 was the last released model.
By this time the government had long converted to bullet proof large black SUVs.
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