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Offline zorgon

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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2017, 01:04:06 PM »

is  the old time word propaganda  the new word fake news?

No it's still propaganda :P but it was LEGALIZED under Obama


The NDAA Legalizes The Use Of Propaganda On The US Public


1948 propaganda Santa

The newest version of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) includes an amendment that would legalize the use of propaganda on the American public, reports Michael Hastings of BuzzFeed.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-legalizes-propaganda-2012-5


"Never let TRUTH get in the way of a good story" ~ Mark Twain


U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News to Americans

For decades, a so-called anti-propaganda law prevented the U.S. government’s mammoth broadcasting arm from delivering programming to American audiences. But on July 2, that came silently to an end with the implementation of a new reform passed in January. The result: an unleashing of thousands of hours per week of government-funded radio and TV programs ...

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/

So... there ya go...  fake news is NOW real news :P

VELCOME TO AMERIKA!!!


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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2017, 01:39:22 PM »
The social media outlet disclosed RT spent $274,100 on ads in 2016, and $1.9 million on ads since joining the platform in 2011.
2016 - 2011 = 6 years

$1.9 / 6 = $316,666

That means that RT spent less on ads in 2016 than on previous years. :)

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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2017, 05:03:43 PM »


thanks Z for that link and it really needs to be read by anyone looking at any news from anywhere

let the reader be skeptical of all  regardless of the source
it's all slanted

everyone wants to get you to believe their story




http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-legalizes-propaganda-2012-5

The amendment — proposed by Mac Thornberry (R-Texas) and Adam Smith (D-Wash.) and passed in the House last Friday afternoon — would effectively nullify the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948, which explicitly forbids information and psychological operations aimed at influencing U.S. public opinion.


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https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/5736/text
Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012 - Congress.gov
https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/5736/text
May 10, 2012 - To amend the United States Information and Educational Exchange Act of 1948 to authorize the domestic dissemination of information and ...




http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/
U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News to ...
foreignpolicy.com/.../u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to...
Jul 14, 2013 - The restriction of these broadcasts was due to the Smith-Mundt Act, a long-standing piece of legislation that has been amended numerous ...



http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-legalizes-propaganda-2012-5

NDAA Legalizes Propaganda - Business Insider
www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-legalizes-propaganda-2012-5
May 21, 2012 - The amendment — proposed by Mac Thornberry (R-Texas) and Adam ... the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948, which explicitly forbids information and ..




http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/05/congress-propaganda/
Is Congress Really Authorizing US Propaganda at Home? – Mother ...
www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/05/congress-propaganda/
May 22, 2012 - Moreover, the amendment could conceivably bring more of the government's overseas information ... modifies the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948.
How the NDAA Allows US Gov to Use Propaganda Against Americans ...



https://www.occupycorporatism.com/how-the-ndaa-allows-us-gov-to-use-propaganda-against-americans/
https://www.occupycorporatism.com/how-the-ndaa-allows-us-gov-to-use-propaganda...
Jul 22, 2013 - The newest version of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) has an amendment added that negates the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948 ...
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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2017, 05:26:01 PM »

everything should say paid for by....


http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-41785158

Facebook to disclose more on political ads
51 minutes ago
 From the section Technology


Facebook has announced measures to make political advertising on the social media platform more transparent.

Political advertisers will have to verify their identity and location and their posts will carry a disclosure saying "paid for by".

The steps come amid allegations that Russian-backed groups used social media ads to interfere in the US election.

Executives from Facebook and other internet giants will testify before a Senate hearing on Tuesday.

"When it comes to advertising on Facebook, people should be able to tell who the advertiser is and see the ads they're running, especially for political ads," Rob Goldman, Facebook's vice president of ads, said in a blog post.

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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2017, 08:52:06 PM »


it's probably only going to get harder to find the truth of anything..


http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-41837435
Facebook, Twitter and Google berated by senators on Russia
Dave Lee
North America technology reporter
1 November 2017
 From the section Technology

Russian operatives, likely working from St Petersburg, provoked angry Americans to take to the streets, a US Senate committee heard on Wednesday.
The May 2016 protest, arranged by a group named Heart of Texas, was one example of Kremlin-backed efforts to destabilise the American electoral process.
Lawyers for three technology companies - Facebook, Twitter and Google - were told they were grossly underestimating the scale of the problem.
"You just don't get it," said California Senator Dianne Feinstein.
"What we’re talking about is a cataclysmic change. What we’re talking about is the beginning of cyber-warfare."


She added: "We are not going to go away, gentlemen. This is a very big deal."
In the streets
Facebook said earlier this week that as many as 126 million people might have been reached by Russian propaganda efforts, a combination of paid advertisements and so-called "organic" posts that spread naturally as other users share the content.
It added on Wednesday that an additional 16 million users could have been reached via photo-sharing app Instagram, which the company also owns.

Reality Check: When 126m isn't 126m on Facebook
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41819819

Russian trolls' social-media posts put on display
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-41829537

Facebook uncovers 'Russian-funded' misinformation campaign
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-41182519


It was organic posts that were under the most scrutiny from the Senate Intelligence Committee on Wednesday.
Senator Mark Warner, the committee's deputy chairman, discussed how the Russian-made Heart of Texas group amassed 250,000 followers.


The group then created an event to be held at an Islamic culture centre in Houston. The event was titled "Stop Islamization of Texas".
The protest duly took place, as did a counter-protest. Local media at the time reported that the organisers "could not be found" at the event.

Twitter's Russia briefings 'inadequate'
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41436406

Can US election hack be traced to Russia?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38370630


Another example shared on Wednesday showed an account sharing "benign" posts on Christianity later shifting to anti-Hillary Clinton posts after the group had reached a critical mass of users.
Twitter, too, faced criticism for potentially under-reporting the extent of automated bots on its network.

The firm's lawyer Sean Edgett said Twitter's own research suggested that less than 5% of its 330 million users were bots. Senator Warner, however, said independent research suggested the number was perhaps as high as 12-15%.

Fake news
The companies, speaking individually but agreeing on every issue, said they were "deeply concerned" that they had become the leading platforms for "fake news" on the internet.

"We cannot defeat this evolving shared threat alone," Facebook's top lawyer Colin Stretch said.

LISTEN: Russian-backed Facebook post row in a minute
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05lkf6s

However, none of the firms would commit to backing the Honest Ads Act, which would regulate online advertising, focusing on greater transparency around political advertising.

Twitter's Mr Edgett said the companies wanted some "fine-tuning" to the proposals but supported its goals.

Several senators suggested that more hearings and consultation would be needed, expressing their frustration that the companies were not being represented by higher-ranking executives.

"I'm disappointed that you're here, and not your CEOs," said independent senator Angus King.

"If we go through this exercise again we should appreciate seeing the top people."

"I wish your CEOs were here," concurred Democrat senator Joe Manchin.

"They have to answer to this."

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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2017, 07:30:09 AM »

really makes you wonder just how many advertising ploys have been used on the shepple  thru the years...sigh   ::)

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/russian-facebook-ads-examples-election_us_59fa16d1e4b01b474047d7a5?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

11/01/2017 05:50 pm ET
Here Are Some Of The Ads Russia Paid To Promote On Facebook
The ads are separate from 80,000 other Facebook posts that have so far been linked back to Russia.

By Ryan Grenoble

starts with a 2 min vid

Two months after Facebook first acknowledged it was paid to promote 3,000 divisive Russian-backed ads during the 2016 election, we’re finally getting a look at some of the ads themselves.

Members of the House and Senate released redacted versions Wednesday of just over a dozen of the ads (scroll down to see them) during congressional testimony from senior staff at Facebook, Twitter and Google concerning Russian meddling in the election through social platforms.

In an earlier analysis of its content, Facebook said the ads focused on polarizing issues, such as immigration, race relations and gay rights, in a clear attempt to foment division.

In one particularly troubling example highlighted by Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C), Russians masqueraded on Facebook as both a pro-Islam “United Muslims of America” group and an anti-Islam “Heart of Texas” group, then scheduled opposing rallies on the same day in the same area of Houston.

Followers of both Facebook groups dutifully attended, then clashed with the counter-rally across the street:

pic
“What neither side could have known was that Russian trolls were encouraging both sides to battle in the streets and create division between real Americans,” Burr said.

“Ironically, one person who attended stated, ‘The Heart of Texas promoted this event, but we didn’t see one of them,’” Burr added. “We now know why. It’s hard to attend an event in Houston, Texas, when you’re trolling from a site in St. Petersburg, Russia.”

The ads are separate from 80,000 other Facebook posts linked to Russian operatives that reached 126 million Americans during the election.

Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) directed particularly pointed criticism at Facebook on Tuesday during a hearing before the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Terrorism, asking Facebook general counsel Colin Stretch how Russian operatives could get away with paying for these ads in rubles yet raise no flags.

“Why did Facebook, which prides itself on processing billions of data points simultaneously, somehow not make the connection that electoral ads paid for in rubles were coming from Russia?” Franken asked.

“Those are two data points,” he added, driving the point home. “How could you not connect those two dots?”

Stretch acknowledged the company could have done better, casting it as “a signal we should’ve been alert to and we missed.”

Here are some of the ads:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/russian-facebook-ads-examples-election_us_59fa16d1e4b01b474047d7a5?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

WOW some really  eye opening ads for sheeple and others there

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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2017, 02:02:33 PM »
This whole "Russian interference" is ridiculous.

Apparently, it's only a problem because it was made by Russians. Facebook rules say nothing about that type of posts, and the paid adverts are (supposedly) reviewed and only published after being accepted, so it means they considered them good enough to publish.

The fact that they have looked for Russian posts instead of a specific type of post is also interesting, as it looks like posts like that made by any other country are OK.  :P

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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2017, 06:05:55 AM »
I agree ArMaP.

Another attempt to smear Trump.  If it were any other country it would be non news as no one would care.  Russians are not that evil, only the media makes them out to be.
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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2017, 07:53:57 AM »

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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2017, 10:07:55 AM »


ok no offence to you guys but i think you are missing the point here..
i was not going political even though most are political examples..they are easy to get and have a new name....fake news

imo the point is how influencing the flock has become an out of country event
it's all slanted to influence you to see things in a way that you wouldn't if you knew the truth

sure russia is a player  but so are others ..our own country included
the thing with russia is that they don't govern the same way as we do but would like to change that so yeah it's a big deal

take the  cage free eggs commercial as a prime example...
it is slanted in a way to make you see something that isn't there

who in the hell cares if the eggs are in cages or not..
it's the chickens  you should ask about..
are they in cages? or free range ?
but what do you think about when you hear that.CAGE FRRE EGGS ?
.do you see eggs being free or chickens

 see my point..
it's the old slight of hand...smoke and mirrors used on a grand scale because of social media

social media has become more of a way to herd the sheeple than a way to keep in touch with your friends
it's a free space for liars, cheats, bullies and scams
critical thinking be damned..no one would lie on purpose now would they ? ! ?
no reason to look behind the curtain for yourself

and the label has become fake news....it's not just for politics anymore




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i don't have a beef with the russians .. just shepple herders
however they become  very visible when the smoke clears

sigh

i was giving examples of how easy for the sheeple herder and  trying to warn us all to be more critical of stuff and not join the herd

i will restrain my impulse to shout "LOOK OUT"  from now on..

sigh

even a cold wet garden is looking good right now

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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2017, 01:23:53 PM »
I use social media to keep up with friends and family.  I also read the news that comes across.  I think about what the news articles are saying.  I don't automatically believe or disbelieve.  I do ask myself if what is being said makes sense.

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« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2017, 01:41:24 PM »
https://extranewsfeed.com/the-trail-of-dead-russians-da27ee4a2bdc
 
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Russians pro and against Putin, some Ukrainians, some that didn't die (and are against Putin), that list could be the result of many interconnected interests, Russian and foreign.

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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2017, 01:53:10 PM »
social media has become more of a way to herd the sheeple than a way to keep in touch with your friends
it's a free space for liars, cheats, bullies and scams
critical thinking be damned..no one would lie on purpose now would they ? ! ?
no reason to look behind the curtain for yourself
Gathering places where people are anonymous have always been a target for liars, it was only a question of time. We can see that in Internet forums and, before that, on the newsgroups. The only thing that has changed is the medium used.

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i was giving examples of how easy for the sheeple herder and  trying to warn us all to be more critical of stuff and not join the herd
I think the problem was the fact that you did use a political topic, so the political side took over, as usual.  :P

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Any place without politics looks good, and, in many circumstances, any place without other people look good also. :)

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Re: fake news - live
« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2017, 01:14:35 PM »



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Any place without politics looks good, and, in many circumstances, any place without other people look good also. :)

Dang ArMaP..we must be related !

bwhahahahahahahahahahah

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« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2017, 01:58:02 PM »
I agree on both counts.  Especially the no people part. 

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