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Offline micjer

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Putin's Warning: Full Speech 2016
« on: February 08, 2017, 07:43:10 AM »



Signed in 1972, the ABM Treaty barred both the US and the USSR from deploying national defenses against long-range ballistic missiles. The treaty was based on the premise that if either superpower constructed a strategic defense, the other would build up its offensive nuclear forces to offset the defense.

The superpowers would therefore quickly be put on a path toward a never-ending offensive-defensive arms race, as each tried to balance its counterpart’s actions. Until Bush took office, the Treaty was referred to as a “cornerstone of strategic stability” because it facilitated later agreements, reducing U.S. and Russian strategic nuclear arsenals.

The US, assuming that a weakened Russia will never again be in a position to counter US hegemonic power, proceeded to encroach on Russia’s borders through its manipulation of NATO objectives.

Today, there is no instrument in international law that prevents the possibility of mutually assured destruction. Putin has been sending out warnings for over 10 years – all of which fell on deaf ears. Who will push the button first?


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Re: Putin's Warning: Full Speech 2016
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2017, 07:50:20 AM »
Typical of how the US pushes more war and the public ignores the aggression.   Who withdrew from the ABM treaty?

With hypersonic weapons and the Sarmat missile, Warmongers are kidding themselves if they think they can prevail in an all out war.  And that supposes that these ABM systems actually work in any practical sense.  They depend on radar tracking - as their achilles heel.  Doesn't it seem foolish to think stealth technology and ABM tech can co-develop without one canceling the effectiveness of the other?

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Re: Putin's Warning: Full Speech 2016
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2017, 09:58:12 AM »
Typical of how the US pushes more war and the public ignores the aggression.
Russia are at war.  With one of our European neighbours (Ukraine) and in alliance with Iran and Syria also with the enemies of ISIL/Daesh (Sunni rebels who are also fighting Assad).

This is one of the reasons the intel agencies consider Russia an enemy still.  How does Trump square working with Russia with fighting ISIL, when their enemies are being pulverised by the Russians and Iranian Shia fighters?

Bleedin' nonsense. ::)

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Re: Putin's Warning: Full Speech 2016
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2017, 01:13:32 PM »
Russia would be paying rent for Crimea today except that US NeoCons pushed for a coup that threatened the port.  Totally unnecessary.  The US cheated Soviets out of rebuild money after WW2 and treated them rudely ( Truman, Molotov).   Crimea was Russian before Texas was part of the US.  US ambassador Kagan is famous for saying , "F**k the EU".

There may be more Sunnis fighting WITH Assad than against him ( not widely known).  Iran will likely evolve into a nice secular state if the US can stop trying to attack it. Iran is far better than the real cause of exported terrorism: Saudi Arabia.  There was a time when women commonly went out in public without head covering, no big deal in Arab nations ('70's such as Nasser's funeral). Thanks to Wahhabi oil money......

The US ruined the lives of 6 million people in Libya for no apparent reason by unleashing jihadists thru killing Khaddafi.  They had the best standard of living in North Africa, maybe the whole continent.  Vandalism of a whole nation and it's treated as trivial, a non-event.  And Iraq?  This is why Russia is upset.  Somebody should be.

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Re: Putin's Warning: Full Speech 2016
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2017, 02:28:34 PM »
A simple question: what is todays Date? Hmmm? The last time I looked it is February 8th; so, that means Mr. Trump has been in charge for 19 days, and you expect him to straighten out all the screwups from the last 8 years in 19 days????
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Re: Putin's Warning: Full Speech 2016
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2017, 11:43:41 AM »
Exclusive: In call with Putin, Trump denounced Obama-era nuclear arms treaty - sources

 Thu Feb 9, 2017 | 10:38pm IST

http://in.reuters.com/article/usa-trump-putin-idINKBN15O29Z


In his first call as president with Russian leader Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump denounced a treaty that caps U.S. and Russian deployment of nuclear warheads as a bad deal for the United States, according to two U.S. officials and one former U.S. official with knowledge of the call.

When Putin raised the possibility of extending the 2010 treaty, known as New START, Trump paused to ask his aides in an aside what the treaty was, these sources said.

Trump then told Putin the treaty was one of several bad deals negotiated by the Obama administration, saying that New START favored Russia. Trump also talked about his own popularity, the sources said.

The White House declined to comment. It referred Reuters to the official White House account issued after the Jan. 28 call, which did not mention the discussion about New START.

It has not been previously reported that Trump had conveyed his doubt about New START to Putin in the hour-long call.

New START gives both countries until February 2018 to reduce their deployed strategic nuclear warheads to no more than 1,550, the lowest level in decades. It also limits deployed land- and submarine-based missiles and nuclear-capable bombers.

During a debate in the 2016 presidential election, Trump said Russia had "outsmarted" the United States with the treaty, which he called "START-Up." He asserted incorrectly then that it had allowed Russia to continue to produce nuclear warheads while the United States could not.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said he supported the treaty during his Senate confirmation hearings.

During the hearings Tillerson said it was important for the United States to "stay engaged with Russia, hold them accountable to commitments made under the New START and also ensure our accountability as well."



If this was an exam I would have to say the President was not very well prepared. 
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