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Breaking News / Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Last post by spacemaverick on February 18, 2018, 02:40:59 PM »
Do not overlook the fact that several rifles were reported to be AR-10's, which fire 7.62x51 (.308 Winchester) the same as an M60...

Yeah, I forgot to mention those also.  7.62 are messy but very effective...
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Breaking News / Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Last post by The Seeker on February 18, 2018, 02:31:52 PM »
Do not overlook the fact that several rifles were reported to be AR-10's, which fire 7.62x51 (.308 Winchester) the same as an M60...
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Breaking News / Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Last post by spacemaverick on February 18, 2018, 01:20:45 PM »
I have fired an M60 in the army.  Listening to the firing, it sounded more like the M16 I fired in the army.  They now in the civilian sector call them AR-15's.  If they fire a 5.56 NATO round which has more of a louder sound than a civilian .223 round, then that would only partially account for the different sound.  He could have changed the bolt to where he could fire .22 caliber rounds.  .22 caliber rounds are much cheaper and are more plentiful and can do enough damage to a body, to render it dead or severely wounded.
 The .223 or 5.56 NATO round when it hits bone will flatten out and tumble like a razor blade in the body.  The other variables are videos taken from different positions amongst buildings, will give you different echo's bouncing off the different structures.  People taking videos are at varying distances and in different positions will increase the variables, hence the different sounds.  The maximum EFFECTIVE range is 400 meters for the M-16 or AR-15.  He could have had a bump stock or even a crank attached to the trigger to make it like an automatic.  He could also pull the trigger very fast which could sound like automatic fire.

Having worked armed security after my stints in the military, law enforcement/corrections and then armed security...security outside the military and corrections is a joke her in the states.  That is a whole different story in itself.
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General Discussion Area / The Question We Should Be Asking
« Last post by Eighthman on February 18, 2018, 01:08:19 PM »
I put this here because no one seems to be discussing it.  How would the emergence of AI evolve into governance?

AI seems to be emerging as something powerful and scary.  Meanwhile, western nations seem to be decaying into disturbing tribalism and an ungovernable mess.  Do these trends come together in some sort of synthesis? How do we accept Computer Overlords?  How would it affect Congress? Or corporate governance?

I cannot imagine an advanced Alien culture being anything similar to popular American individualism. I gotta believe that they must be a lot more collective in order to survive.  I mean, we can't even seem to handle guns as a society much less putting vastly more powerful tech into common hands.

There has to be some path here or evolutionary outcome that puts it all together.
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Breaking News / Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Last post by ArMaP on February 18, 2018, 11:50:28 AM »
I'm far from a specialist in this area, but the first thing I noticed on the videos from the Las Vegas shooting was that the fire rate was irregular, and that doesn't happen with an M60, it has a very steady rate of fire (from what I could see/ear in the videos).

Do we have someone used to how an M60 and an AR-15 sound in here? :)
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Breaking News / Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Last post by petrus4 on February 18, 2018, 08:48:05 AM »
I don't know, but that doesn't answer my question: where did you get the M60 from?

Mostly from the sound from some of the footage I saw; it was pretty much identical.  It was a much deeper, lower pitched sound than I was expecting from bullets.  I haven't heard a lot of gunfire but what I have heard usually sounds like loud cracking.  This was different, and the rhythm is the same as what I've seen from videos with an M60 firing as well.
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Breaking News / Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Last post by ArMaP on February 18, 2018, 06:59:15 AM »
Why would he need that many guns, Armap?
I don't know, but that doesn't answer my question: where did you get the M60 from?
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World News - Current Events / Re: fake news - live
« Last post by ArMaP on February 18, 2018, 06:55:12 AM »
Posed as Americans, and opened financial accounts in their name; some visited the US
I suppose that's the only possibility for an illegal action, if they used real people's identities, which I doubt.
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Breaking News / Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Last post by petrus4 on February 17, 2018, 09:54:11 PM »
Why would he need that many guns, Armap?
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This Magnificent Planet / Netherlands underground
« Last post by space otter on February 17, 2018, 03:02:36 PM »

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