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Title: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 06, 2014, 07:16:40 PM
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Million Mask Movement (http://millionmaskmovement.com/)

Our mission is to make a positive difference in our communities.

It may not be possible to turn the world into a perfect place, but we encourage people to make the positive changes they want to see happen in their communities.

Legal protests are our First Amendment right, and they can be used to peacefully spread important messages about what is going on in the world, country, state, city or even neighborhood.

We also encourage people to take the right steps to set up charity drives and other projects to help the less fortunate around them.

Positive changes do not happen overnight, but they can happen gradually when people work together toward a common goal.

Please see the LINKS (http://millionmaskmovement.com/links.html) page to find additional resources you may find helpful.



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The truth may hurt for a little while but living a lie will hurt you forever (http://millionmaskmovement.com/fukushima.html)

What a quaint surprise!

Fukushima the #1 Truth Fest Current Issue…

…and we thought nobody was listening   :P


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We are Anonymous
We are Legion
We do not Forgive
We do not Forget
United as One
Divided by Zero
We are Uniting Humanity
We Are You
Expect Us


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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 06, 2014, 07:20:32 PM
You do realize it is against the law to wear a mask in quite a few places.?....
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 06, 2014, 09:45:41 PM
I like these better

(https://evbdn.eventbrite.com/s3-s3/eventlogos/24457164/mask.jpg)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 07, 2014, 04:02:39 AM
Our mission is to make a positive difference in our communities.
I'm sure those selling the masks agree. :)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 07, 2014, 05:19:33 AM
I'm sure those selling the masks agree. :)

So the movement isn't perfect, but then again, nothing is.

Sourcing the masks from cheap labour should be addressed, I got mine from the UK, and everyone else should be mindful from where theirs was created.

Besides that, the mask does now symbolise our discontentment with the powers that be..
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 07, 2014, 05:42:45 AM
I think these would be big sellers.. ;D

(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh618/johntfountain/comic_bunny_mask_zps9b66790b.jpg) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/johntfountain/media/comic_bunny_mask_zps9b66790b.jpg.html)

(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh618/johntfountain/images_zps5fad1576.jpg) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/johntfountain/media/images_zps5fad1576.jpg.html)

(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh618/johntfountain/images1_zps0538c5ae.jpg) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/johntfountain/media/images1_zps0538c5ae.jpg.html)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: sky otter on September 07, 2014, 05:43:29 AM

wearing a mask just proves to me you don't have the balls to show the courage of your convictions

hiding behind a mask seems to be what the terrorist favor,,.so that when their movement is defeated
they think they can sneak over to the other side and pretend they never did it

I have NO RESPECT for those wearing a mask...C O W A R D S
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 07, 2014, 05:46:42 AM
I'm sure Batman and every other masked super hero would disagree with you there aha.

ETA: To expand in real terms, the mask allows for anonymity when it is needed, for example, it provides very real protection from being photographed and labelled as a possible domestic terrorist. It allows the wearer to demonstrate a collective thought, reverting back to the symbol and message attached to it.

Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: petrus4 on September 07, 2014, 05:52:09 AM
I have NO RESPECT for those wearing a mask...C O W A R D S

I've worn the mask in public.  It can be surprisingly liberating.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 07, 2014, 05:57:37 AM
I've worn the mask in public.  It can be surprisingly liberating.

Indeed... You coward  :P

Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: sky otter on September 07, 2014, 06:02:26 AM

ah I see twiddy dee and twiddy dum have  jumped in



It allows the wearer to demonstrate a collective thought
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/13/55/53/83/untitl12.png)


yep collective thought

bwhahahahahahahahah
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 07, 2014, 06:09:14 AM
ah I see twiddy dee and twiddy dum have  jumped in



It allows the wearer to demonstrate a collective thought
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/13/55/53/83/untitl12.png)


yep collective thought

bwhahahahahahahahah

ya just got some gold...for that...I forgot about the Borg!
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: WhatTheHey on September 07, 2014, 07:22:05 AM
 ;D Million mask movement!   :o This sounds like a million people wearing masks are going to take a crap at the same time.   Just tell me where so I can be up wind! LOL 

  Sorry, I just couldn't resist.  ;D  It was a set up for a movement joke if I ever saw one.   ;D   LOL  Ok moving right along!


  WhatTheHey
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 07, 2014, 08:00:16 AM
ah I see twiddy dee and twiddy dum have  jumped in

I sharnt bite the bait...
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 07, 2014, 08:06:40 AM
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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 07, 2014, 08:12:24 AM
Perhaps a moment of reflection is timely here   :P

And the music is pretty good, too     8)

[youtube]CkuPEwzXnuI[/youtube]

Unanimous | Mellow Yellow Praises - Faces of the Goddess - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkuPEwzXnuI)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 07, 2014, 08:19:55 AM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_our_planet-580.jpg) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_our_planet-FULL.jpg)



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/plato_plus.jpg) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum1/index.php?topic=1405.0)

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 07, 2014, 08:32:41 AM
To me, the difference between this
(http://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/AP499910748453_0.jpg)

and this
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Counting_Sheep_%288026481405%29.jpg/640px-Counting_Sheep_%288026481405%29.jpg)

is that the elements of first group think they are in control of something, while in fact they control as much as the second group.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 07, 2014, 09:11:56 AM
What would be a more appropriate alternative Armap?
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: noradwopr on September 07, 2014, 09:46:03 AM
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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 07, 2014, 09:49:23 AM
What would be a more appropriate alternative Armap?
First, not hiding behind a mask, the fact that everybody has a mask makes it impossible to know with which ones we can count on and which ones are "planted" by other group(s) just to make them think that they are more than they are.
For example, if the police "plants" 100 masked officers in a 200 people demonstration then the police knows that there were only 100 real demonstrators, while the demonstrators think that they were 200.

Also, a recognisable face has more power than an anonymous mask. One thing I remember reading in a book written by a WWII pilot was that they didn't have any problem shooting down the enemy planes because they were impersonal, they didn't see them as people, just as an enemy machine.

I suppose that's the same thing some people feel when facing a police group in anti-riot gear, they look more like a machine than a person like ourselves, so it's easier to act against them in an inhuman way, as they are not recognised as human.

I hope that makes sense. :)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: burntheships on September 07, 2014, 10:21:39 AM
For example, if the police "plants" 100 masked officers in a 200 people demonstration then the police knows that there were only 100 real demonstrators, while the demonstrators think that they were 200.

Very likely.  ;)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 07, 2014, 10:37:32 AM
Makes PERFECT sense and well put.

When everyone is behind a mask there is no wayto know who is friend or foe

Anonymous has so many factions, some mat be real, some wannabe's some plants... You have no way of knowing.

We know it was Anonymous that hacked ATS and published the account info of 8500 members on an anon website. That one actually messed up my Amazon account and my email. I jad the same password in those two and someone changed the password on me


Anon groups have hack attacked banks etc  but that affects "We the People..." more than it does the PTB...


The Other Side Masks Up

(http://stratrisks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Taiwanese-soldiers-wearing-ballistic-masks-look-like-the-cavalry-from-hell.jpg)

(https://www.scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/486w/public/2013/10/21/soldier_2.jpg)


Our Kids Indoctrination to the Mask

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 08, 2014, 12:34:58 AM
First, not hiding behind a mask, the fact that everybody has a mask makes it impossible to know with which ones we can count on and which ones are "planted" by other group(s) just to make them think that they are more than they are.
For example, if the police "plants" 100 masked officers in a 200 people demonstration then the police knows that there were only 100 real demonstrators, while the demonstrators think that they were 200.

Also, a recognisable face has more power than an anonymous mask. One thing I remember reading in a book written by a WWII pilot was that they didn't have any problem shooting down the enemy planes because they were impersonal, they didn't see them as people, just as an enemy machine.

I suppose that's the same thing some people feel when facing a police group in anti-riot gear, they look more like a machine than a person like ourselves, so it's easier to act against them in an inhuman way, as they are not recognised as human.

I hope that makes sense. :)

Good points as always...
But I like the idea of being a counter machine..
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 08, 2014, 01:23:40 AM
Good points as always...
Thanks. :)

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But I like the idea of being a counter machine..
I don't have any problems with being "counter", but I do have problems with being/looking like a machine.

I know that I am starting to sound like an old man (and I am really getting old, obviously), but one thing that marked the Carnation Revolution was the people going to the streets to meet the soldiers and interacting with them as humans, putting carnations on the barrels of the guns. That meeting between the people and the revolutionaries showed both that the soldiers looked like their brothers and sons and that the people looked like the soldiers' mother and fathers, and from that moment a special bond was created, and that's the type of bond that is not easily broken, and those in power know it, as that's what they fear the most.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Pimander on September 08, 2014, 03:53:26 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeFzeNAHEhU[/youtube]
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 09, 2014, 12:00:36 AM
Thanks. :) and that's the type of bond that is not easily broken, and those in power know it, as that's what they fear the most.

Hence the creation of drones and other robotic weapons... no human interaction. You won't have a soldier to worry about that might not want to shoot his own people  (Tiananmen Square and Kent state not withstanding)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 09, 2014, 12:05:12 AM
THEY did not wear masks...

On 3 July 2013, a coalition led by the Egyptian army chief General Abdel Fattah el-Sisi removed the President of Egypt, Mohamed Morsi, from power and suspended the Egyptian constitution, as a conscious response to Egyptian protesters who demanded the end of Morsi's administration and the initiation of early presidential elections. The move came after four days widespread national protests against the administration and an ultimatum by the military for the government to "resolve its differences" with opponents within 48 hours or face the implementation of a military "road map" for reforms.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Anti_Morsi_protest_march_at_28th_June_2013.jpg)

THEY went down in history as a successful ousting of their problem


Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 09, 2014, 12:07:01 AM
THEY did not wear masks...

Las protestas en Brasil de 2013 son las manifestaciones públicas en curso en las ciudades de Brasil, organizados principalmente por el aumento de los precios del transporte público y, adicionalmente, por el volumen del gasto público en la realización de la Copa FIFA Confederaciones 2013, la Copa Mundial de Fútbol de 2014 y los Juegos Olímpicos de Río de Janeiro 2016. Otros temas que son base de las protestas han sido el reclamo de mayor inversión estatal en educación y salud.

Protests in Brazil in 2013 are ongoing public demonstrations in the cities of Brazil, mainly organized by the rising prices of public transport and, additionally, by the volume of public spending on the performance of the FIFA Confederations Cup 2013, the World Cup 2014 and Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro 2016 Other topics that are based on the protests have been the claim of greater state investment in education and health.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Idosa_presente_na_manifesta%C3%A7%C3%A3o_em_Belo_Horizonte.jpg/640px-Idosa_presente_na_manifesta%C3%A7%C3%A3o_em_Belo_Horizonte.jpg)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 09, 2014, 12:09:56 AM
THEY did not wear masks...

Turkish Protestors Just Took The Israeli Embassy, Raised Palestinian Flag…
July 18, 2014


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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 09, 2014, 12:13:05 AM
THEY did not wear masks...  or Burkahs

Iranian Green Movement

The Iranian Green Movement refers to a political movement that arose after the 2009 Iranian presidential election, in which protesters demanded the removal of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad from office. Green was initially used as the symbol of Mir Hossein Mousavi's campaign, but after the election it became the symbol of unity and hope for those asking for annulment of what they regarded as a fraudulent election. Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi are recognized as political leaders of the Green Movement.[1] Hossein-Ali Montazeri was also mentioned as spiritual leader of the movement.[2]

The Green Movement protests were a major event in Iran's modern political history and observers claimed that protests were the largest since the Iranian Revolution of 1978-1979


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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 09, 2014, 08:38:02 PM
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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Amaterasu on September 09, 2014, 09:58:36 PM
They who did not wear masks were not in high-tech surveillance areas with FBI and Others ready to hunt down participants.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 09, 2014, 10:22:05 PM
They who did not wear masks were not in high-tech surveillance areas with FBI and Others ready to hunt down participants.

No they didn't... they just had troops with guns and tanks to face

 ::)

(http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/iran3.jpg)

but they had NUMBERS

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/17/article-1193401-05602924000005DC-367_634x419.jpg)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 10, 2014, 01:22:47 AM
They who did not wear masks were not in high-tech surveillance areas with FBI and Others ready to hunt down participants.
That's the problem, while those with the mask are (apparently) afraid of what might happen to them those on the photos zorgon posted were not afraid of the armed men that were in front of them.

To me, wearing a mask is a sign of either cowardice, being a "fashion follower" or just a slightly different kind of sheep.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 10, 2014, 02:36:11 AM
Or... Just a cool accessory. I think the issue is 'over thought'..
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 10, 2014, 05:48:00 AM
Or... Just a cool accessory. I think the issue is 'over thought'..
When one person uses it, yes, when dozens use it on a demonstration, I don't think so.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 10, 2014, 06:02:22 AM
What would you describe the use of the mask as?
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 10, 2014, 12:20:03 PM
What would you describe the use of the mask as?
Me? In what circumstances?
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Amaterasu on September 10, 2014, 11:00:55 PM
That's the problem, while those with the mask are (apparently) afraid of what might happen to them those on the photos zorgon posted were not afraid of the armed men that were in front of them.

To me, wearing a mask is a sign of either cowardice, being a "fashion follower" or just a slightly different kind of sheep.

And some of Us have a message and the mask appeals to the revolutionaries, the Ones I am trying to reach, and also hides My one buck tooth so it will not be a focus.  These are the reasons *I* used the mask.  I have NO fear, have no interest in "fashion," and surely am not any kind of sheep.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 11, 2014, 03:38:44 AM
And some of Us have a message and the mask appeals to the revolutionaries, the Ones I am trying to reach, and also hides My one buck tooth so it will not be a focus.  These are the reasons *I* used the mask.  I have NO fear, have no interest in "fashion," and surely am not any kind of sheep.

Yea, what Amy said. I've noticed the mask helps in capturing public attention, it makes heads turn where otherwise there may have been no head turning previously.

But if that makes me a 'sheep', then I stand guilty as charged.
After all - we are all lambs for the slaughter...
I'd just like to think of it as a marketing tool, to sell an idea  - or many idea's.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Pimander on September 11, 2014, 03:52:54 AM
I think the masks are extremely amusing.  I agree with the sentiment that your true face can have more power if the issue is one of conscience and masks allow groups to be infiltrated and manipulated easily.

Whats wrong with being a black sheep. :P
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 11, 2014, 05:47:30 AM
And some of Us have a message and the mask appeals to the revolutionaries, the Ones I am trying to reach, and also hides My one buck tooth so it will not be a focus.
I don't think it appeals to the revolutionaries, only to the "couch revolutionaries", those that talk a lot and do nothing.

Also, I think that to avoid your one buck tooth from being a focus you only needed to have some image(s) on screen, no mask necessary, unless it's just a marketing ploy, something I despise.

PS: how many real revolutionaries do you know?
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 11, 2014, 05:50:29 AM
Yea, what Amy said. I've noticed the mask helps in capturing public attention, it makes heads turn where otherwise there may have been no head turning previously.
If that's the case then it's just a question of marketing, and the people that turn their heads do just that, nothing more, so it just works as an amusement for the masses.

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I'd just like to think of it as a marketing tool, to sell an idea  - or many idea's.
I agree with that, but I hate marketing. :)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 11, 2014, 05:56:50 AM
Greetings:
It did not surprise me in the least that the message
was overlooked by those who couldn't understand it.
   :P

OR CHOSE NOT TO
IN ORDER TO DERAIL THE DISCUSSION



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Our mission is to make a positive difference in our communities.

It may not be possible to turn the world into a perfect place,
but we encourage people to make the positive changes they want to see happen in their communities.

Legal protests are our First Amendment right,
and they can be used to peacefully spread important messages about
what is going on in the world, country, state, city or even neighborhood.

We also encourage people to take the right steps to set uP
charity drives and other projects to help the less fortunate around them.

Positive changes do not happen overnight, but they can
happen gradually when people work together toward a common goal.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)

tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)

 
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 11, 2014, 12:23:07 PM
Our mission is to make a positive difference in our communities.
How, I don't see any reference to any thing being done or prepared that will make a positive difference, can you be more specific?
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 11, 2014, 12:41:12 PM
How, I don't see any reference to any thing being done or prepared that will make a positive difference, can you be more specific?

It's out of character for you be unfairly biased and pessimistic.
As Amy has stated previously, you cannot just 'generalise' the Anonymous movement. Collectively they reprresent discontentment with the status quo, and a revolutionary change in thought. Individuals behind the Anon mask often stand for various causes, have various methods, various goals, and various effects.

Anon varys from specialist hackers, to the common activist, and even plain old trolls. Some Anons do charitable work, others stage street demonstrations, others target institutions, others spread information and awareness.

Some of these variations have been successful in their ambitions, others not. Some endeavors have been percieved as postive, others negative...

But the fact remains, the concepts of Anonymous have sparked wee revolution globally..  The Anon idea has often planted the seed of new thought..
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 11, 2014, 12:57:20 PM
It's out of character for you be unfairly biased and pessimistic.
I was only asking a question about something that appeared to be about something specific.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 11, 2014, 01:19:16 PM
I was only asking a question about something that appeared to be about something specific.

You post seems to suggest you cannot think of anything *positive* that has come from Anon ideaology.

As your an intelligent and usually no-biased person, I thought you would be able to name some of the positives...
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 11, 2014, 01:22:32 PM
You post seems to suggest you cannot think of anything *positive* that has come from Anon ideaology.
That's true, I can't think about any thing positive that has come from what you call "Anon ideology", one of the reasons is that I don't know what you mean by "Anon ideology".

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As your an intelligent and usually no-biased person, I thought you would be able to name some of the positives...
I'm not, as I don't remember any.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 11, 2014, 01:39:23 PM
That's true, I can't think about any thing positive that has come from what you call "Anon ideology", one of the reasons is that I don't know what you mean by "Anon ideology".
I'm not, as I don't remember any.

Well, as you state you do not understand Anon Ideaology, I will gracefully bow out, for two reassons: Firstly, If you don't understand Anon ideology by now, given your exposure to the subject, then nothing I present will probably sway that, its a feeling, an idea, a determination and a solidarity that many of us share - however, its appears some others don't...

Secondly, I'm extremely tired, posting from crapberry, and if I was going to attempt to give the subjcet justice, I'd need to write an essay.

I may return at some point to further expand on my choice of the word 'solidarity'.

:)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 11, 2014, 01:39:48 PM
It's out of character for you be unfairly biased and pessimistic.

ArMaP asked a question... I have the same question...

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As Amy has stated previously, you cannot just 'generalize' the Anonymous movement.

Why not? Since they themselves say they don't have an organization as such?

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Anon varys from specialist hackers, to the common activist, and even plain old trolls. Some Anons do charitable work, others stage street demonstrations, others target institutions, others spread information and awareness.

Looks like you just 'generalized'  ::)

Collectively they reprresent discontentment with the status quo, and a revolutionary change in thought. Individuals behind the Anon mask often stand for various causes, have various methods, various goals, and various effects.

'Various causes" "various methods", "various goals", "various effects"

In other words chaos

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Some endeavors have been perceived as positive, others negative...

Well so far the only contact I have had with Anon has been negative. Had my account hacked at ATS (a site that actually SUPPORTED Anon at the beginning) and had my personal info plastered on a main Anon site.  Anon hackers have attacked my Amazon account and my bank  Anon has attacked yahoo emails and several other sites like linked in and posted those passwords etc on Anon sites

If I were to see an Anon mask I am most likely going to be inclined to swing my (real) sword and off with their heads

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But the fact remains, the concepts of Anonymous have sparked wee revolution globally..  The Anon idea has often planted the seed of new thought..

Revolution always leads to war FIRST before things get better  Are you ready to lose everything in another war?  Not me  too old for that sh!t,

In case your not certain, I am NOT Anon friendly  :P
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 11, 2014, 01:47:10 PM
its a feeling, an idea, a determination and a solidarity that many of us share - however, its appears some others don't...

That has been the way of the world since Cromagnon discovered fire... not everyone shares the same views or ideology

 ::)

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I may return at some point to further expand on my choice of the word 'solidarity'.

I know what solidarity means  but Anon by your own admission, is all over the map on ideas, methods and effects so it is the exact opposite of solidarity.  A loose knit "brotherhood' perhaps but solidarity means one purpose, one goal

SOLIDARITY: Unanimity,  unity or agreement of feeling or action, especially among individuals with a common interest; mutual support within a group

You do not have unanimity in anon...  only a general concept of revolution

And since WE don't see any positive actions instigated by Anon, perhaps you could share a list with us?
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 11, 2014, 02:11:35 PM
Well there's knowing the dictionary definition of a word, and then there's understanding the context and alternative definitions of a word. Thoughts aren't always easily translated into words...

Exactly -  'a general idea of a revolution', and that's where I define the solidarity in Anon, a solidarity that some sort of revolution needs to take place. And the 'some sort' accounts for all the variations we observe.

That's the best textual translation I can offer for my thoughts, so it'll have to make do.

Sure - the Anon on the 'ground' in the UK have raised huge awareness to the Privatisation of our public services, and has attracted the youth with the *local* Anon rules of 'do not break the law, protest peacefully and have fun' approach.
(Which differs from some other Anon appraoches, obviously)

There's my first hand knowledge of the 'on the ground' Anon movement in the UK, besides that, I'd highlight that the Hackers globally have brought the spot light to a lot of issues the mainstream media would have us brush under the carpet.

As Anon is ever reaching and ever alternative, there must be more individual stories of postive effects to spawm from the Anon movement.

I have previosly stated there have been negative effects also.

My point is, it has not all been negative.

And unless you are actively seeking local, and national Anon activities you won't be aware of much more other than what the news and youtube feed you.   
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 11, 2014, 03:49:21 PM
Well, as you state you do not understand Anon Ideaology,
I didn't say that, I said that I don't know what you call "Anon Ideology".

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I will gracefully bow out, for two reassons: Firstly, If you don't understand Anon ideology by now, given your exposure to the subject,
How do you know how much exposure to the subject I have?
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 11, 2014, 06:42:26 PM
How do you know how much exposure to the subject I have?

It's painfully obvious.   :P

In perhaps its biggest coup to date, Anonymous directly caused the resignation of the chief executive of a U.S. security firm that was helping the government track down cyberactivists.

Aaron Barr, who headed HBGary Federal, had boasted to the Financial Times that he would reveal the names of some of Anonymous's leaders.

Since We don't have 'leaders', that would be next to an impossibility.   :P

Anonymous (We are You) responded by hacking into HBGary's computer system through its public website, accessing 71,000 private emails, and indexing them in a searchable format for anyone to read.

Surprise, surprise!

The emails revealed an institution that was comfortable employing dirty tricks to preserve its image.

Tit for tat.   lol

Last week, congressional Democrats demanded an investigation into HBGary.

On Feb. 28, Barr was forced to resign.   :P


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_I_ILL_KEEP.jpg)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Pimander on September 12, 2014, 04:47:31 AM
I wonder how many people realise that some of the "work" allegedly done by "anonymous" is actually covert three letter agencies creating an excuse to implement new laws and justify increased funding for internet related so called intelligence work?

Three letter agencies see the net as an area to expand their work.  It would not be the first time they create a problem in order to offer a solution that results in more money and powers for themselves.  ;)

David Icke (yes I know he lost the plot a bit LOL) wrote about this in his earlier books.

Modus operandi:-

1.  Decide what you wish to do.  {get new powers and money for agencies}
2.  Design a problem which will create the political will to do something about it.  {web activism gone rogue}
3.  Politicians create laws and offer agencies cash as a solution.  {cash and new powers for internet intelligence work}
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 12, 2014, 05:14:18 AM
I wonder how many people realise that some of the "work" allegedly done by "anonymous" is actually covert three letter agencies creating an excuse to implement new laws and justify increased funding for internet related so called intelligence work?

Three letter agencies see the net as an area to expand their work.  It would not be the first time they create a problem in order to offer a solution that results in more money and powers for themselves.  ;)

David Icke (yes I know he lost the plot a bit LOL) wrote about this in his earlier books.

Modus operandi:-

1.  Decide what you wish to do.  {get new powers and money for agencies}
2.  Design a problem which will create the political will to do something about it.  {web activism gone rogue}
3.  Politicians create laws and offer agencies cash as a solution.  {cash and new powers for internet intelligence work}

I think many of us realise this Pi, but we cant allow that to deter us..
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 14, 2014, 08:36:45 AM
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MISSION & VISION
No need is too small and no voice is too quiet to be heard. We will devote the time and energy necessary to educate, advocate and elevate.

VOLUNTEERING
It is our desire to see the people come together as a world-wide community to volunteer their time and resources to bettering the world for their neighbors, and future generations.

RECENT PROGRAMS
Occupy Steubenville brought over 2,000 people to the streets of Steubenville Ohio in support of a rape-victim, immediately resulting in a grand jury investigation and multiple indictments.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_stubbenville_sheriff.png)

The Anonymous member MC'ing the event — the one standing next to him in the picture above — actually got a chance to interview the sheriff at one point. When asked about the now notorious video of the member of the football team joking about raping the victim, Abdalla said he found it "disgusting." He told Anonymous that he was aware of the video's existence, but didn't watch it until three days ago, when Anonymous and their partners at LocalLeaks was first broadcast to the public via their constantly updating Steubenville Files.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 14, 2014, 10:12:40 AM
[youtube]YLZxFfI0bag[/youtube]

4:12 Anonymous: A Message to Humanity - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLZxFfI0bag)

Published on May 8, 2013
A very powerful message to all the people of the World.

United We Stand.
Together we can fight for a better world.
No man, women, or children should be enslaved for the greed of the few.
No human life should ever be sacrificed!

We are Anonymous
We are Legion
We do not Forgive
We do not Forget
United as One
Divided by Zero
We are Uniting Humanity
We Are You
Expect Us


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_Expect_Us_Red_LOGOorig-400.png)

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tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 14, 2014, 10:43:13 AM
RECENT PROGRAMS
Occupy Steubenville brought over 2,000 people to the streets of Steubenville Ohio in support of a rape-victim, immediately resulting in a grand jury investigation and multiple indictments.

That's good, but why the need for publicity for themselves? That's what I disagree with, instead of appearing as normal citizens exercising their right they appear as an anonymous entity.

PS: two years ago doesn't look like recent.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 14, 2014, 10:46:09 AM
No man, women, or children should be in-salve for the greed of the few.
What does "in-salve" mean? ???

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We are Legion
Wasn't that some demon(s)?

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We Are You
No you're not, I am me, stop trying to include me in something I am not part of.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 14, 2014, 12:15:00 PM
OMG!
A TYPO!!!


(Or an intentional ploy to see who's lurking.)   :P

Thanks for pointing that out.

You are right, again.     ;D

YOU are not Anonymous.   :P

Thanks for pointing that out.

Again, too bad You missed the message,
whether by overlooking or intentional dissembler design,
You missed it.    ;)

United We Stand.
Together we can fight for a better world.
No man, women, or children should be enslaved for the greed of the few.
No human life should ever be sacrificed!

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_if_you_choose_nothing.jpg)


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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 14, 2014, 12:16:18 PM
We told you so…years ago.   :P

[youtube]HrXyLrTRXso[/youtube]

Anonymous - Message to the American People - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrXyLrTRXso)

Uploaded on Dec 3, 2011

Dear brothers and sisters.

Now is the time to open your eyes!

In a stunning move that has civil libertarians stuttering with disbelief, the U.S. Senate has just passed a bill that effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America.

The National Defense Authorization Act is being called the most traitorous act ever witnessed in the Senate, and the language of the bill is cleverly designed to make you think it doesn't apply to Americans, but toward the end of the bill, it essentially says it can apply to Americans "if we want it to."

Bill Summary & Status, 112th Congress (2011 -- 2012) | S.1867 | Latest Title: National Defense Authorization Act.

This bill, passed late last night in a 93-7 vote, declares the entire USA to be a "battleground" upon which U.S. military forces can operate with impunity, overriding Posse Comitatus and granting the military the unchecked power to arrest, detain, interrogate and even assassinate U.S. citizens with impunity.

Even WIRED magazine was outraged at this bill, reporting:

"Senate Wants the Military to Lock You Up Without Trial...the detention mandate to use indefinite military detention in terrorism cases isn't limited to foreigners. It's confusing, because two different sections of the bill seem to contradict each other, but in the judgment of the University of Texas' Robert Chesney — a nonpartisan authority on military detention — "U.S. citizens are included in the grant of detention authority."

The passage of this law is nothing less than an outright declaration of WAR against the American People by the military-connected power elite.

If this is signed into law, it will shred the remaining tenants of the Bill of Rights and unleash upon America a total military dictatorship, complete with secret arrests, secret prisons, unlawful interrogations, indefinite detainment without ever being charged with a crime, the torture of Americans and even the "legitimate assassination" of U.S. citizens right here on American soil!

If you have not yet woken up to the reality of the police state we've been warning you about, I hope you realize we are fast running out of time.

Once this becomes law, you have no rights whatsoever in America. — no due process, no First Amendment speech rights, no right to remain silent, nothing.

The US senate does not want us to speak. I suspect even now orders are being shouted into telephones and men with guns will soon be on their way.

Why?

Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth.

And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there?

Cruelty and injustice...intolerance and oppression.

And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance, coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission.

How did this happen? Who's to blame?

Well certainly there are those who are more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable. But again, truth be told...if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.


I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be?

War. Terror. Disease.

There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you and in your panic, you turned to the now President in command Barack Obama. He promised you order. He promised you peace.

And all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent.

More than four hundred years ago, a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words - they are perspectives.

So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you, then I would suggest that you allow the fifth of November to pass unmarked.

But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek...then I ask you to stand beside one another, one year from November 5th, 2011, outside the gates of every court house of every city DEMANDING our rights!!

Together we stand against the injustice of our own Government.

We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
United as ONE.
Divided by Zero.
We do not forgive Censorship.

We do not forget Oppression.
US SENATE…
Expect us!!

Music by: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Requiem

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)

tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 14, 2014, 12:34:13 PM
Again, too bad You missed the message,
Which one? :)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 14, 2014, 12:50:39 PM

Published on Apr 18, 2013

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[youtube]QljWb2qEzcA[/youtube]



Anonymous Message to the masses April 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QljWb2qEzcA)


We are Anonymous
We are Legion
United as One
Divided by Zero
We do not Forgive
We do not Forget
We are Uniting Humanity
Expect Us



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_Expect_Us_Red_LOGOorig-400.png)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif) (http://)

Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Elvis Hendrix on September 14, 2014, 12:51:07 PM
When you get a lucid front man and a galvanised plan, il listen.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 14, 2014, 01:14:07 PM
[youtube]Meo7VR7fHnQ[/youtube]

Anonymous : How We Changed the World 2014 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Meo7VR7fHnQ)

Published on Jul 8, 2014

ANONYMOUS HEADQUARTERS: http://AnonHQ.com
Become Anonymous: http://www.anonhq.com/be-anonymous
JOIN US: https://www.facebook.com/ArmyAnonymous
CLICK TO SUBSCRIBE: http://bit.ly/anonymoussub
Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/anonforce2012
Get Your Anonymous Mask in US: http://amzn.to/OHrOI6
Get Your Anonymous Mask in UK: http://amzn.to/Q0cHKL
Get Your Anonymous Mask in Canada: http://amzn.to/1dzAo1x
Get Your Anonymous Mask in Germany: http://bit.ly/anonymous--maske

We are Anonymous
We are Legion
We do not Forgive
We do not Forget
United as One
Divided by Zero
We are Uniting Humanity
We Are You
Expect Us


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_Expect_Us_Red_LOGOorig-400.png)

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 14, 2014, 01:50:02 PM
Expect us, to do what?
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: sky otter on September 14, 2014, 03:35:16 PM


this long winded bull s hit thread on we are one  is the very definition of propaganda

Thor I really thought better of you
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Pimander on September 14, 2014, 03:56:28 PM
Thor, you are not anonymous.  We know who you are mate. :P
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 14, 2014, 04:01:18 PM
[youtube]mEw_16qhcSU[/youtube]


Anonymous Final Resistance 2014 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEw_16qhcSU)

Published on Aug 14, 2014
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: WarToad on September 15, 2014, 08:51:18 AM
 :o

Anonymous are not the good guys.  They just want to throw stones and see what breaks.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Amaterasu on September 15, 2014, 09:23:32 AM
Excuse Me?  Anon can be anyOne.  Maybe some want to "throw stones and see what breaks," but I can assure You most want to solve the problems, ethically and with heart.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 15, 2014, 09:45:42 AM
Excuse Me?  Anon can be anyOne.  Maybe some want to "throw stones and see what breaks," but I can assure You most want to solve the problems, ethically and with heart.

na·ive

/n???v/

adjective

adjective: naive; comparative adjective: naiver; superlative adjective: naivest; adjective: naïve; comparative adjective: naïver; superlative adjective: naïvest

(of a person or action) showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment.

"the rather naive young man had been totally misled"

(of a person) natural and unaffected; innocent.

"Andy had a sweet, naive look when he smiled"

synonyms: innocent, unsophisticated, artless, ingenuous, inexperienced, guileless, unworldly, trusting; More
gullible, credulous, immature, callow, raw, green, wide-eyed;
informalwet behind the ears, born yesterday
"don't be fooled by his naive manner of speaking"
antonyms: worldly
of or denoting art produced in a straightforward style that deliberately rejects sophisticated artistic techniques and has a bold directness resembling a child's work, typically in bright colors with little or no perspective.

I like thae last part 'resembling a child's work'

Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 15, 2014, 09:50:55 AM
I think it's naive to give up on a movement just because the big bad wolf wanted to, and has, to an extent infiltrated it.

I think it's naive to give up and admit defeat- rather than show some balls and metal to reclaim the movement back.

I don't wanna start this debate again  ::)  :P

LOL

Check out my topics in the UFO/Contact section  8)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Pimander on September 15, 2014, 12:47:44 PM
OK, lets say I wanted to achieve an objective stated by the "organisation" called anonymous.  I need help from these other "anonymous" folk.

Q1: How do I know which ones are really "anonymous" to ask for help?  What if I contact an FBI agent?

Q2: If contacted by another "anonymous" member, how do the contacted members know the person is not an FBI agent or something?

Q3: How can you run an organisation if the only people who know who are interested in it are FBI agents? (because if you are open about your interest you are not anonymous.) ::)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: sky otter on September 15, 2014, 01:34:55 PM



yeah lets all wear a mask

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/13/55/53/83/untitl14.png)

hey add a cross that’ll convince the rest we are good guys

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/13/55/53/83/images17.jpg)

and if that doesn’t work  will hit them where it hurts and take their money
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yep masks are good things to have when you have no guts to show your face

Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 17, 2014, 09:50:29 PM
Well it seems a certain someone is having trouble finding good CONTENT to keep her site alive...

It was pointed out to me by a Watcher that  this person is trying to drag me back into discussion HERE (http://www.cosmic-token.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1696)

I am not interested  8)

However this second comment was made from viewing THIS thread...

Perhaps Zorgon, in light of current events... you might consider rephrasing your meaning here?

"If I were to see an Anon mask I am most likely going to be inclined to swing my (real) sword and off with their heads"

Perhaps we should all be very relieved that you apparently don't have a "real sword?"
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum1/ind ... ic=7288.30

Linda

Well to whomever here still feels the need to pass on all our material pass THIS along...


Zorgon has MANY real swords... they are very SHARP ( a dull sword is nothing but a useless wall hanger. Zorgon's daughter also has many real swords... also very SHARP.  Zorgon is very GOOD with a sword though because of current leg issues he doesn't partake much in the live combat these days

(http://landoflegendslv.com/07foreign/03orgs/01SCA/images/Events/Estrella2000/001.jpg)

But he still has an Army at his beck and call...

(http://landoflegendslv.com/07foreign/03orgs/01SCA/images/Events/Estrella2002/battle/battle041.jpg)

THEY don't wear masks either (though they do wear armor)...

(http://landoflegendslv.com/07foreign/01ov/images/Events/Forest1997/OVMF101.jpg)

...and are mostly ex and active military or similar types , kinda like Brent (Bjarki the Bear) who is special forces and who was Zorgon's body guard shown here after we Knighted then Governor of Nevada Kenny Guinn

(http://landoflegendslv.com/07foreign/01ov/images/Events/Forest1999/People/002.jpg)

Does that make my POINT?

 ::)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Pimander on September 18, 2014, 04:28:45 AM
Not another "anonymous" supporter whose alleged full name we already know.  Is it completely lost on folks that there is nothing anonymous about people knowing who you are. ::)

Will the real anonymous sign your names below please. ;D

Ludicrous.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Amaterasu on September 18, 2014, 08:40:11 AM
Not another "anonymous" supporter whose alleged full name we already know.  Is it completely lost on folks that there is nothing anonymous about people knowing who you are. ::)

Will the real anonymous sign your names below please. ;D

Ludicrous.

Why is that a focus?  The point is the sentiment, the desire to cast off the poisoning, slavery, and wretchedness that Humanity is beset with.  Not whether "We know who You are."

The point of Anon is to unite.  Not staying personally hidden.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 19, 2014, 01:11:03 AM
Why is that a focus?  The point is the sentiment, the desire to cast off the poisoning, slavery, and wretchedness that Humanity is beset with.  Not whether "We know who You are."

The point of Anon is to unite.  Not staying personally hidden.

There is clearly two opposing veiw points on this forum regarding the Anonymous matter...
Neither of us will convince or sway the other..
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 19, 2014, 01:13:38 AM
It's curious that she who shall not be named is still trying to tempt you into communication....
What a strange endeavor..
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Pimander on September 19, 2014, 06:02:28 AM
It's curious that she who shall not be named is still trying to tempt you into communication....
What a strange endeavor..
I imagine in real life she would not attempt to communicate with someone if she did not like them.  Her behavior has been odd on forums for a long time if you ask me.  Odd is OK but not if it completely takes over person or groups website who have worked hard to give our friends a place to do our thing.  Bloody rude if you ask me.  :)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: The Seeker on September 19, 2014, 06:23:32 AM
I imaging in real life she would not attempt to communicate with someone if she did not like them.  Her behavior has been odd on forums for a long time if you ask me.  Odd is OK but not if it completely takes over person or groups website who have worked hard to give our friends a place to do our thing.  Bloody rude if you ask me.  :)
Yes, quite rude; my opinion is that person is a spider spinning a web to ensnare all who would enquire or have interest in those certain fields, if for no more than to divert them away from certain paths or achievements...

just my take on the matter...


seeker
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 19, 2014, 07:21:40 AM
[youtube]NraNhjyhLfk[/youtube]

You've Woken Up...Now What? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NraNhjyhLfk)


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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Pimander on September 19, 2014, 08:05:41 AM
The point is the sentiment, the desire to cast off the poisoning, slavery, and wretchedness that Humanity is beset with.  Not whether "We know who You are."
Sorry.  I'm just having a joke about the name anonymous.

You know I hate what untrammeled Capitalism is doing to us all.  If the right movement appears I'm on board all the way.  There are details about me that I may share with some of you at some point but I have been involved with things in a big way in the past.  I definitely can't post about it here.

Ultimately though I have come to realise that the most likely way we will sort out the mess will involve some kind of political challenge alongside other action.  Not just mass rallies or hacking.

There is a good reason I won't touch Skype.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Pimander on September 19, 2014, 08:10:43 AM
my opinion is that person is a spider spinning a web to ensnare all who would enquire or have interest in those certain fields, if for no more than to divert them away from certain paths or achievements...
Well I can't think of any other explanation for the behavior of some of the associated people.

Go back and read some (not all) of the material in the IG too.  A lot of it just does not make sense.  It is like some books I have read that are designed to confuse the rational mind.  Those works are designed with a mystical purpose (as opposed to diversion).  Maybe I'm really thick or something but if I'm not then some of those threads are complete BS.  Maybe I missed something but that is what I see.  I hope I'm not just hopelessly stupid.   ;D
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on September 19, 2014, 08:18:55 AM
Well I can't think of any other explanation for the behavior of some of the associated people.

Go back and read some (not all) of the material in the IG too.  A lot of it just does not make sense.  It is like some books I have read that are designed to confuse the rational mind.  Those works are designed with a mystical purpose (as opposed to diversion).  Maybe I'm really thick or something but if I'm not then some of those threads are complete BS.  Maybe I missed something but that is what I see.  I hope I'm not just hopelessly stupid.   ;D

Apart from the IG, is sounds like you just described another of the Forums we have on here..

I'll let you guess which  :P
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Pimander on September 19, 2014, 08:45:33 AM
I'll let you guess which  :P
I'm saying nothing as I don't wish to upset anyone but I think I've guessed LOL. ::)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 19, 2014, 10:23:51 AM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_anonymous_HDQ.jpg)



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_everything_takes_time.jpg)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ColoradoGold on September 20, 2014, 05:39:26 AM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_that_which_divides_us.jpg)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 20, 2014, 05:53:43 AM
:o

Anonymous are not the good guys.
They just want to throw stones and see what breaks.

Greetings:

Thank you for your time, consideration and participation.

And your point of view comes from interviewing ALL Anons?   :P

Just who do you think are 'the good guys'?

Not all of 'they' can be painted with your negative broad brush.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_call_me.jpg)

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: undo11 on September 20, 2014, 06:18:31 AM
i am torn between the 2 approaches: 

on the one hand you have an out of control system
and on the other hand you have an out of control populace.

there doesn't seem to be a lesser of 2 evils. 
and to make matters worse, anon is promulgating the same troublesome issues this planet has had for thousands of years -- LACK OF FORGIVENESS.

there would be no fights between brothers (jews vs. arabs, chinese vs.  japanese, and etc) today, if people forgave each other.  that part of the anon statement, really needs a rethink.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: undo11 on September 20, 2014, 06:39:12 AM
p.s. and don't assume because i say forgiveness is the solution, that i think it will ever happen, globally.  i'm not that naive, but dang, it would help.  it certainly isn't going to solve problems by letting your competition know that you're punishing them by being the same kind of evil they are. it's like "hello pot, my name is kettle."


more than anything on the planet, we need full disclosure on everything, not just on the question of ET.  we kill each other due to lack of information. we condemn each other over lack of information.  we blame each other, due to lack of information.  and then we refuse to forgive each other.......you guessed it, over lack of information. we are ALL hostages and victims of lack of information.  blaming each other, isn't going to solve it.  only full disclosure will. then maybe, we will finally forgive each other. 
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Pimander on September 20, 2014, 06:44:12 AM
there would be no fights between brothers (jews vs. arabs, chinese vs.  japanese, and etc) today, if people forgave each other.  that part of the anon statement, really needs a rethink.
That is a really good point.  At some point humans have to draw a line and move on from historical feuds if they want lasting peace.

I've said it before and I'll probably say it again.  Any species that still settles disputes by killing each other is still pretty primitive.  Bombs and bullets are not the best way to decide how resources are divided.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: undo11 on September 20, 2014, 06:53:03 AM
eek i have one more statement on this.

here's a stream of consciousness thingy--

imagine you're born without a body part that effects some other aspect of who you are as an adult. let's say that missing part effects you psychologically.  let's say that over the years, that psychological effect has not been addressed and becomes more pronounced (mostly because the brain is still a riddle for most doctors, even if they do understand its functions) until you become a problem to society - not because you are deliberately messed up in the head, but because lack of information has caused your issues to be incorrectly or inappropriately, addressed.

  now let's say the problems you present to society at large eventually become particularly egregious (scaling factor dependent on the culture), and you eventually end up in prison.  what did you actually do wrong?  honestly, not a thing.  you were a victim of lack of information and the people you wronged, were also victims of lack of information. it snowballs on itself. 

whoever has the whole story and is hiding it from everyone else, is really the issue.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: undo11 on September 20, 2014, 07:11:11 AM
That is a really good point.  At some point humans have to draw a line and move on from historical feuds if they want lasting peace.

I've said it before and I'll probably say it again.  Any species that still settles disputes by killing each other is still pretty primitive.  Bombs and bullets are not the best way to decide how resources are divided.

the anon thing is also based on the idea of survival of the fittest, which is the primary cause of all suffering on the planet, including amongst its various offshoots are greed, hate, revenge, and a plethora of other social problems that anon people actually are embracing in the form of non-forgiveness and revenge, as if they were new concepts.  it's not new AT.ALL, in fact, it's the driving force behind the very problems they want to solve. 

every time my brain takes a mental trip down that road in order to suss out what to think about anon, i arrive at the same place, even if the road has different nice places to visit (honorable things anon has done along the way) than the other guy's version of survival of the fittest {greed that leads to charitable donations and quality of life issues, solved along the way}. 

that road is so well traveled, it's practically super freeway 10 lanes wide....on both sides.  and no one seems to notice the big elephant in the room that this same thing has been tried, trillions of times before. surely we are more inventive than that, as a species

Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 20, 2014, 08:54:26 AM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_call_me.jpg)
Then stop using a mask that is used by some people that do not stand for freedom and are not fighting for general freedom.

That would help stopping the spread of confusion and help other people understand what you do.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 21, 2014, 03:22:58 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_we_use_masks.jpg)




And for those who hide behind avatars on SkyNet
to be able to throw stones at the Messenger in order
to derail what is meant to be a positive, meaningful thread.
   :P



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_you_cant_win~0.jpg)



Quote
That would help stopping the spread of confusion and help other people understand what you do.


Thank you for Your concern.

However, many millions of concerned citizens worldwide are
clearly not confused and certainly understand what We do.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_worldwide.jpg)


Besides that, the masks have nothing to do with the message, as You well know.    ::)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_masks_TimeWarner-640.png)


Because some of the ignorant infiltrators cause trouble behind
the masks, that does not mean that ALL behind masks are there to cause trouble.

The mask debate is a thread that You might want to start, ArMaP.   :P

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_POOLS_CLOSED.png)

(Inside joke for those Who bothered to look at the Message.   :P
Comments posted here get GOLD about Your thoughts after viewing that presentation.)

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 21, 2014, 03:29:09 PM
There is clearly two opposing veiw points on this forum regarding the Anonymous matter...
Neither of us will convince or sway the other..

You have just defined Humanity

 ::)

Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 21, 2014, 03:32:06 PM
It's curious that she who shall not be named is still trying to tempt you into communication....
What a strange endeavor..

No Sinny not curious... Sad is the word  I would use...

Besides all my notes on "Ctitters" is easy to find on the website

But she does seem to follow this thread. LOL Maybe she has joined Anonymoose too
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on September 21, 2014, 03:33:53 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_we_use_masks.jpg)
What is that supposed to mean? ???

Quote
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_you_cant_win~0.jpg)
I don't think that's true, we can win "their game" by playing by "their rules", we just need to learn them well.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 21, 2014, 03:36:59 PM
You've Woken Up...Now What?

Well THAT is a good question... for years I have been showing people stuff trying to wake them up...

The few that do  get that light bulb flashing over their head, the great AHA! Moment

(http://onlinemarketingwithvince.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/aha-moment.jpg)

Then for a few minutes after they shower you with kudos for sharing...

The next day?

Back to the same old grind dealing with what is REALLY important to them

[youtube]A8FgTYTswfg[/youtube]
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Pimander on September 21, 2014, 03:45:32 PM
Before Enlightenment chop wood carry water, after Enlightenment, chop wood carry water.~Zen Proverb
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 21, 2014, 03:46:27 PM
Apart from the IG, is sounds like you just described another of the Forums we have on here..

Well your friend Robomont puts it THIS way at BN

i came from the forum and my arm was twisted to join the inventors group.
if deuem is a chinese spy then im greatful that his country helped fund my project.he was the first one to send me money.its more than the usa gov has done for me.

im not mad at you back.im your friend.
im only upset with zorgon for letting his place go south.
im a little upset with pwm because he promised big releases of info that never came.for like three years.
ig was a private group but basically everybody and their dogs was allowed in.even though only three of us was doing the work.the rest were scared or leeches.scared because the stuff was dangerous or leeches because they never did any real work.just sat back and took a free ride .

http://articlechase.com/beyondnews/showthread.php?tid=9178&pid=44472#pid44472

Interesting comment

I guess since there is no more IG group and a lot of stuff was deleted we can just open that up to the regular members now
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 21, 2014, 03:56:22 PM
p.s. and don't assume because i say forgiveness is the solution, that i think it will ever happen, globally.  i'm not that naive, but dang, it would help.  it certainly isn't going to solve problems by letting your competition know that you're punishing them by being the same kind of evil they are. it's like "hello pot, my name is kettle."

I agree... what I do not understand is the leaders...  What I mean in this case is the religious leaders. I don't want to derail this to discuss religion. just make a point from personal experience on this issue of forgiveness. (we can continue it in the other forum if need be later)

Here is the thing. Jews, Muslims and Christains have been at it for literallt thousands of years, All believe in the same god basically and do not deny this. Yet for 2000 plus years there has been no forgiveness of each others interpretation.  In fact each group is further splintered over still more interpretations.

Yet when I was searching for god as it were I spoke the top people in most of these groups.  Not the first level preachers (they only quote books and brush you aside) I mean Imams Rabbis and Mon Signeurs, even Mormon Elders

Each one discussed it calmly and rationally. No attempt to convert me, just told their views. The odd thing was THEY ALL AGREED that tolerance and forgiveness was the KEY...  yet not ONE could answer WHY the top leaders do not preach that openly

Do you get my point?  SOMETHING is preventing them from openly doing what they espouse to be the solution in private

Must be ALIENS   :o

Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Pimander on September 21, 2014, 03:57:46 PM
I guess since there is no more IG group and a lot of stuff was deleted we can just open that up to the regular members now
That would be amusing to me.  I wonder if anyone can find something new of substance bacause I never did.   ;D
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 21, 2014, 04:01:24 PM
Then stop using a mask that is used by some people that do not stand for freedom and are not fighting for general freedom.
That would help stopping the spread of confusion and help other people understand what you do.

Perhaps the GOOD Anon need a new mask to seperate them from the BAD Anon...

In theater there are two masks

(http://www.robertberezin.com/wp-content/uploads/theater-masks-1.jpg)


Religion has two masks

(http://cache.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/1458693-bigthumbnail.jpg)

Both of those clearly define the good from the bad?

Just a thought

 ::)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 21, 2014, 04:12:18 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_you_cant_win~0.jpg)

Actually that is EXACTLY how you CAN win...

You learn the rules of their game and use those rules against them. 

You cannot win at POKER if you do not know the rules

You cannot win at Finance unless you know the rules.  It took me most of my life to learn the rules of that one. I can now teach those rules to anyone that wishes to listen and learn and make things better for themselves in the CURRENT situation

A few already have.

You CANNOT win by using the same tactics your enemy uses. That has NEVER worked because the end result is YOU become THEM


BTW That Guy Falkes Mask Anon uses?  How many know the history?

The Guy Fawkes mask is a stylised depiction of Guy Fawkes, the best-known member of the Gunpowder Plot, an attempt to blow up the House of Lords in London in 1605. The use of a mask on an effigy has long roots as part of Guy Fawkes Night celebrations.

So the mask has a very violent origin....  makes it hard to trust it

The SECOND use of that mask is for the book "V for Vendetta "

In that story the mask was used by a FASCIST group

In this dystopic future, a fascist party called the Norsefire has exterminated its opponents in concentration camps and now rules the country as a police state. The comics follow its titular character and main protagonist, V, an anarchist revolutionary dressed in a Guy Fawkes mask, as V begins an elaborate, violent, and intentionally theatrical revolutionist campaign to murder his former captors, bring down the government, and convince the people to rule themselves,

So is THIS the image Anon portrays?  A group of MURDEROUS FASCISTS worse than the NAZI?

That is the image many perceive when they see the mask  a group dedicated to pure Anarchy

Maybe they should have invented an ORIGINAL mask  not adopted one with such a violent bloody history

Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 21, 2014, 05:21:53 PM
But Z, it looks sooooo cool doesn't it? Makes great graphic animated gifs!  ::)
Makes you want to sign up! Huh! ;)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: undo11 on September 22, 2014, 08:10:15 AM

So is THIS the image Anon portrays?  A group of MURDEROUS FASCISTS worse than the NAZI?

That is the image many perceive when they see the mask  a group dedicated to pure Anarchy

Maybe they should have invented an ORIGINAL mask  not adopted one with such a violent bloody history

actually, it was one of those infamous catholic vs. protestant things.  the catholics wanted a catholic leadership on the throne, but it was occupied by henry's descendants who were not so much protestant as they were just simply not catholic.  there is a difference but its very slight, generally speaking.

Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on September 22, 2014, 03:06:08 PM
actually, it was one of those infamous catholic vs. protestant things.

No not going there   :-X
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on October 14, 2014, 02:00:49 PM
[youtube]nqIVLFQuxgk[/youtube]


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Published on Sep 18, 2014
Anonymous - WE CAN CHANGE THE WORLD

Connect with Anonymous
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We are Anonymous
We are Legion
We can Forgive
We will Never Forget
United as One
Divided by Zero
We are Uniting Humanity
We Are You
Expect Us



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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 03, 2014, 05:20:49 PM
[youtube]JE6tDllNP2E[/youtube]

0:31 Anonymous - The 5th of November, Are you ready? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE6tDllNP2E)

Published on Oct 1, 2014

Anonymous - The 5th of November, Are You ready?
Million Mask March (http://www.millionmaskmarch.com/)

Connect with Anonymous
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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 03, 2014, 05:28:10 PM
ANONYMOUS Million Mask March
Largest World Protest by The Most Influential Group in the World
November 5th, 2014 (http://www.millionmaskmarch.com)

You are hereby cordially invited.

Anonymous is a truth movement advocating hacktivism as self-defense for unconstitutional government. It is our aim to shed light on corrupt government in order to set people free from oppression.

Since Anonymous is a movement and not an organization, our leadership is undefined and fluid.  We function not by credentials but by the power of idea to resonate with the whole. With no rulers, there are no rules and no specific membership criteria. In fact, you don’t even have to be computer savvy or anonymous to be Anonymous.

Now being hailed “The Most Influential Group in the World,” Anonymous has caught the passionate attention of millions. With our annual Nov. 5th global event known as Million Mask March (in commemoration of Guy Fawkes Day), we have for the last two consecutive years organized “The Largest World Protest.”


Million Mask March Theme Song
“We’re Gonna Trip the Light!”

[youtube]Pwe-pA6TaZk&[/youtube]

4:52 Where the Hell is Matt? 2012 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwe-pA6TaZk)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 03, 2014, 07:31:40 PM
[youtube]Z-3RiAypVNc[/youtube]

4:03 Million Mask March 2014 song - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLeZHPF2QWWsW5zP82oyPenpT7DU9opaKv&v=Z-3RiAypVNc)

Published on Oct 26, 2014
Jonny Concrete - 'Obey'


We’re gonna do what Germany did to take down the Berlin Wall:
INTRODUCING MONDAY MARCHES in alliance with Million Mask March.

ANONYMOUS | Million Mask March (http://www.millionmaskmarch.com/map)

November 5th, 2014

Click on Map (https://mapsengine.google.com/map/u/0/viewer?mid=zcw0ZYrLl5RQ.khgYCnHItPbY) Below to Search Worldwide Locations

eMail Map@MillionMaskMarch.org
Telephone:  1-860-888-3127 USA Eastern Standard Time

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_map_nov5.png) (https://mapsengine.google.com/map/u/0/viewer?mid=zcw0ZYrLl5RQ.khgYCnHItPbY)

HOW TO USE THE MAP
If you’re using your mobile phone to search, get/update Google Maps App (http://www.google.com/mobile/maps/).
Go to:  MillionMaskMarch.com/map (http://www.millionmaskmarch.com/map).  (.org & .net lead to same).

Once you start zooming in,  city names/event pages and search option will appear.

As a protective measure, copy this link for safekeeping:
https://mapsengine.google.com/map/viewer?mid=zcw0ZYrLl5RQ.khgYCnHItPbY

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 03, 2014, 07:34:46 PM
[youtube]FfBv4T318gw[/youtube]

6:43 Million Mask March London - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfBv4T318gw)

Published on Nov 10, 2013
Video by
Ayesha Jones & Tommy Xiaoj
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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 03, 2014, 07:37:26 PM
For those who still don't get it...


[youtube]14dj1xJvGGA[/youtube]
9:46 Courage is Contagious. Million Mask March - London, Canada - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14dj1xJvGGA)

Published on Nov 7, 2013
Thank you for watching and sharing this video.
I love you.

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 03, 2014, 07:48:45 PM
I know I shouldn't but I can help it. I hate friggin' hackers. All these high and mighty platitudes about finding the truth and exposing evil corrupt governments is baloney. They're criminals and should have their fingers cut off. There now I've done it!
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on November 04, 2014, 02:21:41 AM
We’re gonna do what Germany did to take down the Berlin Wall:
They didn't wear masks...  ::)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on November 04, 2014, 02:25:00 AM
Click on Map (https://mapsengine.google.com/map/u/0/viewer?mid=zcw0ZYrLl5RQ.khgYCnHItPbY) Below to Search Worldwide Locations
There's one thing wrong in that map, some ignorant marked the Lisbon march as if it was in Porto.  ::)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 04, 2014, 05:05:05 AM
For those who still don't get it...
Courage is Contagious. Million Mask March

Where is the Courage hiding behind a mask? 

Where is the purpose? Those interviewed in that video say they are marching for no particular cause

Count me as one who still does not get it   :P
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 04, 2014, 05:15:41 AM
I know I shouldn't but I can help it. I hate friggin' hackers. All these high and mighty platitudes about finding the truth and exposing evil corrupt governments is baloney. They're criminals and should have their fingers cut off. There now I've done it!

HOW are they "exposing evil corrupt governments" by hacking PAYPAL?  I need Paypal to make my living via Ebay etc....  So how does attacking Paypal or shutting down Ebay hurt the PTB or the Cabal or the Evil Government?

No it hurts the little guy trying to make a few bucks to survive

Anonymous Defendants Plead Guilty in PayPal Cyber-Attack

Thirteen people involved in a 2010 cyber-attack on EBay Inc. (EBAY)’s PayPal unit pleaded guilty to charges they sought to damage computers.

The hacker group Anonymous took credit for the attack, saying it was retaliation for the online payment company suspending the account of WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy website.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-07/anonymous-defendants-plead-guilty-in-paypal-cyber-attack.html

Paypal is tied directly to my bank account (albeit I did set up a separate account for that) It is tied to my Ebay Etsy and Amazon accounts


This Halloween my daughter and I put up an awesome Pirate display... (photos coming)  Several of the local punks figured all they needed for a costume this year was a Hoody and an Anon Mask  I was NOT amused :P

FBI Arrests 14 Over Group Anonymous' Alleged PayPal Attack
http://www.advfn.com/nasdaq/StockNews.asp?stocknews=EBAY&article=48499392

Brit mastermind of Anonymous PayPal attack gets 18 months' porridge
A British member of the hacking group Anonymous was jailed today for orchestrating attacks that knocked PayPal, Visa and Mastercard offline.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/24/uk_anonymous_hackers_sentencing_payback/


Nice way to get the support of the little people.
Hopefully they will make it legal soon to shoot them   :P

 ::)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 04, 2014, 05:35:32 AM
Well Z, you and I are definitly on the same page with these punks....

But hey they make great animated gifs, and cool looking videos and stuff.... ::)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: WarToad on November 04, 2014, 07:10:19 AM
Can we ban people who support this stupidity, please?  There is no courage in wanting to hide and be anonymous.  Courage steps up and take a stand, AS YOURSELF AND WHAT YOU STAND FOR.

As for anonymous, there's a handfull of movers and shakers, and million coattail riders and hanger on wanna-be's,
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 04, 2014, 08:02:21 AM
Can we ban people who support this stupidity, please?  There is no courage in wanting to hide and be anonymous.  Courage steps up and take a stand, AS YOURSELF AND WHAT YOU STAND FOR.

As for anonymous, there's a handfull of movers and shakers, and million coattail riders and hanger on wanna-be's,

Greetings:

Obviously, stupidity is in the eyes of the beholder.

How about we ban people who advocate censorship?

There ARE a handful of movers and shakers doing the good work.

If you do not like what is written, don't read it.

As usual, everyone misses the message… :P

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Courage steps up and take a stand, AS YOURSELF AND WHAT YOU STAND FOR.

Yup. That's why my real name (https://www.rebelmouse.com/thor_anderson/) is across the boards in all social media (http://www.gofundme.com/chqvmg) tied to thorfourwinds (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum1/index.php?topic=7287.0) at Pegasus.

What do You stand for, Sport, hiding behind the avatar "War Toad?"   :P

Please enlighten us with Your positive ideas, links, anything ... ;D


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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 04, 2014, 08:04:15 AM
As for anonymous, there's a handfull of movers and shakers, and million coattail riders and hanger on wanna-be's,

You speak as if You had any real knowledge on the subject.   :P
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: WarToad on November 04, 2014, 08:04:47 AM
LOL.  Hook, line, sinker.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 04, 2014, 08:07:51 AM

Thank you for your time and consideration.


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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: WarToad on November 04, 2014, 08:10:28 AM
 ::)    ;D
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: petrus4 on November 04, 2014, 08:31:11 AM
That was inappropriate.  I apologise.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 04, 2014, 09:08:40 AM
[youtube]mEw_16qhcSU[/youtube]

Anonymous Final Resistance 2014 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEw_16qhcSU)

Published on Aug 14, 2014

Gabriella Coleman (http://gabriellacoleman.org/?page_id=8), an expert in hacker culture (http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2012/12/beacons-freedom-hacking-anonymous/) , is writing a book about Anonymous.

She told me that one of the most fruitful ways to think about Anonymous is simply as a vehicle for getting the word out.

“One of the things that is interesting about them,” said Coleman, “is that they have shown the world what large-scale protest politics online looks like. But in the end, I think their strength is publicity.”


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Members of the Palikot Movement Party protest against
the ratification of the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement


In 2012 alone, Coleman said, Anonymous had played a significant role in publicizing the Stop Online Privacy Act (SOPA) (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/12/sopa-anonymous-january-18_n_1201397.html) in the U.S., the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) (http://venturebeat.com/2012/02/17/anonymous-acta-gov-websites-hack/) and the government crackdown on the MegaUpload file-sharing site (http://gizmodo.com/5877679/anonymous-kills-department-of-justice-site-in-megaupload-revenge-strike).


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Anonymous launched Operation Megaupload


The denial-of-service attacks that temporarily shut down government or corporate websites shouldn’t necessarily be seen as acts of vandalism that break things, but rather as stunts designed to get the world thinking, hey, there might be something weird and wrong, as in the case of MegaUpload, about the spectacle of a government shutting down a major website before a court has found anyone guilty of a crime.

Since 2008, when individuals started to organise diverse collective actions under the banner of Anonymous, a living model was created, demonstrating to the world what a radical politics of dissent on the internet looks like. Even if Anonymous was to vanish, its history, exploits and propaganda material are here to stay; there will likely be others — in different forms and with distinct twists — who will take its place?

What is a little less clear is what will eventually become of freedom of expression online, given the increasing capabilities for surveillance, censorship and control all over the world.

Is Anonymous merely the party at the funeral of online freedom?

Or does it represent the irreverent clowns, rabble rousers, and tricksters who are keeping the reaper at bay and enabling others, from protesters on the street to elected representatives in parliament, to join the raucous political carnival and challenge threats to personal privacy and freedom?

In 2012, Coleman wrote earlier this year (http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2012/12/beacons-freedom-hacking-anonymous/) Anonymous “began to be portrayed as an open-source brand of radical protest politics and not necessarily as hooligans hell-bent on unleashing extremist, chaotic acts… Anonymous is a distinct, emerging part of this diverse and burgeoning political landscape."

Its real threat may lie not so much in its ability to organize cyber attacks but in the way it has become a beacon, a unified front against censorship and surveillance.

What’s not to love? Go get ‘em, Anonymous.


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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on November 04, 2014, 09:24:04 AM
As usual, everyone misses the message… :P
I see several possibilities for that:
- the messenger isn't doing it right;
- the delivery method is wrong;
- the message is in the wrong format for the intended audience;
- the message is being delivered to the wrong audience.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 04, 2014, 09:24:45 AM
Criminals with good intentions.....lol... ::)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on November 04, 2014, 09:39:29 AM
“One of the things that is interesting about them,” said Coleman, “is that they have shown the world what large-scale protest politics online looks like. But in the end, I think their strength is publicity.”
I agree, and that's probably why I don't care about them much, as I ignore publicity. :)

Also, I think that shows what I think is wrong with this whole Anonymous thing, as publicity is not the same as information, and that's what they should be doing, informing people of those things the media usually ignore or hide.

In the Megaupload case, for example, their actions didn't result in common people asking "why a major website was shutdown before a court has found anyone guilty of a crime?", or, if they did, I didn't see anyone talking about it, which means that it was not a success.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 04, 2014, 12:46:04 PM
There ARE a handful of movers and shakers doing the good work.

Agreed  but its like the UFO crowd  A mere HANDFUL are the real deal, and their message gets buried by the 1000's of charlatans in it for the buck and the 1000's of hoaxers just messing with people.  The NOISE vs SIGNAL ration in the UFO circuit is so bad I can no longer hear the SIGNAL

So is "handful of movers and shakers doing the good work." enough? and how do the outsiders know which ones are doing the good?

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As usual, everyone misses the message… :P

Perhaps we are blinded by the NEON LIGHTS that the message is written with?

 ::)

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Yup. That's why my real name (https://www.rebelmouse.com/thor_anderson/) is across the boards in all social media (http://www.gofundme.com/chqvmg) tied to thorfourwinds (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum1/index.php?topic=7287.0) at Pegasus.

Well I thought this was about a MILLION masks  not just the ONE that has a Thor Label   :P 

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What do You stand for, Sport, hiding behind the avatar "War Toad?"   :P

Yes people do forget that they too hide behind that Avatar mask. I too use my real name  LOL Zorgon is more real than my mundane name  even the post office sends mail to King Zorgon

So  neon banners aside... how about you just spell out that message that we are not getting in plain English for us simpletons?

 ::)

On a side note... how fares the housing war?
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 04, 2014, 12:51:31 PM
As for anonymous, there's a handfull of movers and shakers, and million coattail riders and hanger on wanna-be's,

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You speak as if You had any real knowledge on the subject.   :P

In all fairness in that video of the Canadians marching a couple of those interviewed openly state that they are there for no particular purpose and just 'along for the ride'  So there you have it from the Masked Ones own mouth.

Right here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14dj1xJvGGA#t=56

And the guy that is the 'reporter'? Skull Babylon?  LOL that guy sounds like a hoser  eh? :P

So after attempting to actually listen to all those interviews... can anyone tell me what exactly they said?

 ::)

Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: petrus4 on November 05, 2014, 02:37:35 PM
You speak as if You had any real knowledge on the subject.   :P

Anonymous at this point, are pretty much the dictionary definition of the phrase, "useful idiots."

Before anyone accuses me of being ignorant because I'm expressing an opinion that they disagree with, be aware of the fact that I know Anon's history, and was actually involved to a small degree in both Operation Chanology and Operation Egypt.  I've also spent at least several hundred hours on 4chan.

There was a time when Anon were a genuinely autonomous group of intelligent subversives, who thought for themselves and did things for their own reasons.  Said group has not existed since around mid way through Chanology, however.

Their involvement with Occupy was what really destroyed Anonymous.  These days the group consists of largely the same people that Occupy itself did; naive, entitled, liberal, Marxist indoctrinated, generally disgusting white male Millennials, who get led around by the nose and used as a private army, by anyone with the money and intelligence to convince them that they are actually serving a populist cause, as they were tricked into doing during the Arab Spring.

When Anon start fighting the American government's proxy wars for it, that is when you know that they have ceased being part of the solution, and have become part of the problem.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 06, 2014, 11:47:50 AM
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[youtube]nPNrQLDVOrA[/youtube]

3:20 Anonymous Call for World Wide Wave Unity #WakeTheMasses ~ #MillionMaskMarch 2014 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPNrQLDVOrA)

Published on Apr 20, 2014

Share and Like to WAKE THE MASSES UP!

There is something seriously wrong with World Governments and many people are very unaware of this.

We are All in this TOGETHER.

We are not here together in our egos.

We are here together as representatives of universal consciousness and the people and beings of Earth.

We have chosen to harness the power of our current technology and come together as one people to create positive change for all beings here on Earth.

We are volunteers proving, regardless of location, that we can coexist and work together for the betterment of all people's and the future of the children and beings of Earth.

We wish to inspire others to see us as reflections of themselves, take action, form positive groups, create new things together through unconditional love for humanity, nature and all life.

The Second Enlightenment is Upon Us All...

Know that You are Loved.

Don't Just Expect us.
Join Us.
This November 5th
#MillionMaskMarch


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4:47 Million Mask March 2014 Trailer - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrGl7ul-Paw)

Published on Nov 4, 2014

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 06, 2014, 12:00:33 PM
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Million Mask March: Met Police Ban Masks at Anonymous Protest Designed to Bring London to Gridlock (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/million-mask-march-met-police-ban-masks-anonymous-protest-designed-bring-london-gridlock-1473317)

Police have imposed an order banning thousands of protesters from wearing masks at tonight's Anonymous "Million Mask March" in London.

The Metropolitan Police Service has issued a Section 60AA across Westminster between 5pm on Wednesday, 5 November, and 2am on Thursday.

It means police will be able to demand protesters remove the distinctive Guy Fawkes mask worn by online movement group Anonymous's supporters.

Thousands of demonstrators are expected to descend upon the capital tonight for an event that has been advertised with the slogan "Remember, remember…".

They are expected to occupy Trafalgar Square from around 6pm and march towards Westminster and the Houses of Parliament.

A YouTube trailer for the march says it is an opportunity to protest against "dictatorships, evil corporations and repressive governments".

A Facebook page promoting it says: "When will the world learn that humans cannot be oppressed?
 The drive for freedom and justice is paramount in our existence.
We demand a world that is free from oppression."


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LIVE - Million Mask March floods London streets - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eib32B_KH6M#t=5785)

Started on Nov 5, 2014
Protesters are rallying outside the Houses of Parliament in London to protest global corporations and government corruption. The "Million Mask March" called for by Anonymous is famed for featuring demonstrators wearing Guy Fawkes masks, adopted by the collective from the V for Vendetta novel.


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Anonymous Million Mask March Live: Coverage of Protests From Auckland to London and New York (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/anonymous-million-mask-march-live-blog-1473172)

Key Points:
      463 protests expected around the world
      22 events orangised in towns and cities across the UK
      Several arrests in Washington
      Police in London given permission to remove masks as hundreds of riot police stand-by
      Over 2,500 Anonymous members expected to protest outside UK Parliament
      IBTimes UK reporters at the London march providing live updates.Tweet any news to @IBTimesUKTech

#Million Mask March DC on Livestream (http://new.livestream.com/accounts/5475444/events/3559177)


Peering through the computer, we find Anonymous in any instant to be an aggregate sack of flesh – meshed together by wires transistors and Wi-Fi signals – replete with miles of tubes pumping blood, pounds of viscera filled with vital fluids, an array of live signaling wires, propped up by a skeletal structure with muscular pistons fastened to it, and ruled from a cavernous dome holding a restless control centre, the analog of these fabulously grotesque and chaotically precise systems that, if picked apart, become what we call people.

Anonymous is an ever-changing idea. It is a platform to allow for activism online, allowing disparate people around the world to come together under a single voice which now has the power to facilitate real change.

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 06, 2014, 01:49:16 PM
From a friend, and we couldn't say it better…  :P

 
Regarding selective perceptions of Anonymous:

You're mistaking a lack of leadership and rules for a lack of ethics, and that's intellectually dishonest at best.

In addition, you're taking the selected actions of individual self admitted black hat hackers as representing the entirety of a political movement.

That'd be like me saying, "You're a white guy, so clearly you support slavery, right?"

Starting to see why broad generalizations make you seem stupid?

It's not even offensive, I ain't even mad.

It's just ludicrous.


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What you don't seem to understand is that I was there for all this.

I saw the shift from being a bunch of jerkoff teenage pranksters to being one of the foremost activist groups on planet freaking earth.

I was researching them before Assange, before Wikileaks, hell, before Scientology.

So go ahead. Tell me how I've been deceived.

I will play along.

No 90 minute screeds on your "opinion".

Just give me one, any one bit of remotely compelling evidence that can trump actually having BEEN there.

Firstly, Anons do not fight each other. They disagree, occasionally bicker like children, and troll the poop out of one another, but never fight.

Secondly, the illegal actions were tried. DDOSing didn't work so it went to hacking, hacking didn't work so it went to occupy, occupy didn't work so now it's time for the next thing.

Anon makes mistakes, lots of em.

It just never makes the same mistake twice.

What I know is this next thing will be totally legal, and in support of the constitution.

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 06, 2014, 01:51:13 PM
[youtube]c62aG_4PQHA[/youtube]


 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c62aG_4PQHAAnonymous - WE LIKE TO HELP - YouTube[/url)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 06, 2014, 03:46:18 PM
You're mistaking a lack of leadership and rules for a lack of ethics, and that's intellectually dishonest at best.

The Police generally for the most part are law abiding people that really DO want to 'serve and protect'  Yet daily 'we the people' look at the actions of a FEW on the force that take the power into their own hands and effectively become criminals.

These criminals are rarely brought to justice so in the eyes of "We the people.." we tend to think the entire force of cops is corrupt


Islamic extremists are said to number 1% of all Islam  yet that 1% is still several MILLION compared to the number of 'peaceful' Muslims...  it is the extremists that "We the people..." have to deal with...

The vast majority of the 'peaceful' Muslims say they do not condone the actions of the few YET DO NOTHING to police their own kind... so "We the people..." tend to assume all Muslim are evil women hating freedom hating terrorists

So now we have Anonymouse... You say a FEW are evil hackers that attack "We the people..."  and the rest are do gooders.  Yet I do NOT see Anonymouse stepping up and saying that these evil hackers DO NOT speak for them (except you  :P)

"We the people..." do not have dealing with any do good Anon  we only get the attacks from the evil hackers

So is it FAIR?  No but that is human nature... and as long as the cops, or the Muslims or the Anons do NOT POLICE THEIR OWN... this opinion of "We the people..." will not change


A while back I pointed out the MASK came from a really BAD example  the Guy Fawkes riots. You told me Anonymouse doesn't represent that

Yet now in London on the 5th  seems that yes they DO IN FACT promote that

So... "We the people..." are confused

and rightly so


Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 06, 2014, 03:49:25 PM
In addition, you're taking the selected actions of individual self admitted black hat hackers as representing the entirety of a political movement.

Already covered above but we hate Bush or Obama openly and blame them for everything evil under the sun  but not all conservatives or democrats are evil

So I ask again  WHAT precisely is Anon doing to STOP the evil individual self admitted black hat hackers?

If they claim "Its not us...anyone can hide behind a mask..."

then you have proved my point  :P
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 06, 2014, 04:04:11 PM
That'd be like me saying, "You're a white guy, so clearly you support slavery, right?"
Starting to see why broad generalizations make you seem stupid?
It's not even offensive, I ain't even mad.
It's just ludicrous.

I am a white guy and I think having a few women slaves might not be so bad  :P (willing of course :P)

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Secondly, the illegal actions were tried. DDOSing didn't work so it went to hacking, hacking didn't work so it went to occupy, occupy didn't work so now it's time for the next thing.

Anon makes mistakes, lots of em.

It just never makes the same mistake twice.

So you admit that Anon WAS behind the as you say ILLEGAL DDOSing, hacking, etc.  You also say that there is no leader or rules...

So what is to stop those PREVIOUS hackers etc from doing what they did before? Since there are NO RULES no one is obligated to stop.  Since there is no LEADER WHO tells them to 'cease and desist' the illegal activity?



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Firstly, Anons do not fight each other. They disagree, occasionally bicker like children, and troll the poop out of one another, but never fight.

Seems a common trait amongst Hu-mons   :P

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What I know is this next thing will be totally legal, and in support of the constitution.

We shall see.... 

in the meantime a statement like THIS from an official ANON site disturbs me

So what exactly is ISIS? ISIS is the next wave of boogie men that we as American’s are told we must degrade and destroy, or whatever Obama said about them, because if we don’t they will surely be responsible for the next 911.  Whether or not that is true I don’t know.  What I do know is that I am absolutely sick to death of fighting wars against ideology.  That is ultimately what this war is about.  Obama can drop as many bombs on ISIS as he wants but nothing he does will end the IDEA of ISIS.  Whether or not you agree with or believe in what ISIS believes in, you cannot dismiss the fact that ISIS and Islamic extremism is an idea. An idea is what gives Anonymous it’s strength. Idea’s cannot be broken or thrown away into the trash.  You know the deal.  As long as the idea of ISIS exists, no number of bombs you drop on them will win the war.  The air strikes and soon-to-be boots on the ground are nothing more than a stop gap.  You can spend years going over the politics of war in the middle east, Islamic fundamentalist extremists and why they seem to want to blow up the world.  Ultimately, if I was born into a war torn desert where my people were starving, where disease and despair were prevalent, and where outsiders were sucking up the only natural resource my country had while I squandered my life away in poverty, I’d want to blow poop up too.

http://anonhq.com/anonymous-hacker-group-goes-isis/

Nice message... I cannot decide if Anon is for or against ISIS at this point  I get conflicting messages but that last comment is downright scary in my opinion
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 06, 2014, 05:27:54 PM
To continue from the same source:

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Now while the idea of ISIS will not be destroyed by bombs or anything else for that matter, the greatest way to battle an idea is with a better idea.

This brings me to OPISIS.

Our Anon brothers and sisters around the world have launched a cyber-war against ISIS. Back in June, ISIS hacked an Anonymous Twitter account.  I’m sorry but that’s like poking the sleeping bear.

Anonymous set out to launch it’s own war against the new terrorist group airing a video which made it very clear that any country who assists ISIS will suffer the consequences.

Anonymous has already committed cyber attacks against Turkish government websites and has put a scare into countries like Syria and Qatar who have recently invested heavily in upgrading their cyber security. What effect will cyber attacks have against ISIS? It is hard to say.

One factor which is of concern is, what kind of retaliation will there be from ISIS? ISIS has suspected connections to the Syrian Electronic Army (SEA).  If the SEA retaliate against western cyber targets, the outcome could be disastrous. Follow the Anonymous battle against ISIS at #OPISIS.

 
When I first heard about ISIS, my first thought was that this was some kind of CIA operation on behalf of the military industrial complex designed to get us back into Iraq.

I haven’t changed my mind.

When one traces world events throughout the last 60 years or so, the CIA and the American intelligence community has played a major role in shaping world events.

From the attempted coup in Haiti, to the Bay of Pigs, to the Gulf of Tonkin, the CIA have proved their willingness and ability to manipulate world events to further their own agenda, even if that agenda is in direct opposition to the will of the American people.  You constantly hear people talking about “the government” and blaming them for all their woes.

The one thing that I have come to realize is that there truly are two American governments.

There are your elected officials who appear to play the game by the rules, have to get elected, follow procedure, etc. Then there is the American intelligence community.  These are the guys who really call the shots.  The CIA have a long history of manipulation, especially in the middle east.

We created Al-Qaeda and I have no doubt that the CIA helped create what we know today as ISIS.  The military industrial complex knew that once we went into Iraq, we would never leave.  I applauded Obama for pulling soldiers out of Iraq, but he should have known the powers that be, would never let it go at that.  Even Obama answers to the powers that be.

 

There is no doubt that ISIS poses a great threat to the world.

They have no respect for any idea that doesn’t fit with theirs.  They do not embody the freedom and equality that we hold so dear. If ever there  was an idea that needed to be wiped out, it is ISIS.  I do not know where this war is going, what our objective is and if it will ever truly end.  I do know that while the bombs are dropping, ISIS is still gathering strength and at this moment is within miles of Turkey and their movement is taking them toward Baghdad.

I sit here frustrated as I know that the problems we are currently facing were created by my own government.

I wish I could close with some powerful words of encouragement but I can’t.

All I can do is watch and wait and hope that the people in charge make the right decisions as this unending war wages on.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on November 07, 2014, 06:23:50 AM
They have no respect for any idea that doesn’t fit with theirs.
That reminds me of Anonymous.  :P

PS: could you please use the quote tags when quoting other sources? It's hard to know what's your opinion and what's a quote.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: petrus4 on November 07, 2014, 01:31:17 PM
Yes people do forget that they too hide behind that Avatar mask. I too use my real name  LOL Zorgon is more real than my mundane name  even the post office sends mail to King Zorgon

Are you meaning to imply that my skin is not, in fact, green? ;)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 07, 2014, 09:31:12 PM
They have no respect for any idea that doesn’t fit with theirs.

Well back in the 70's the Hippies were all about peace and love and "Do your own thing"  Well that is what they preached.

But when I chose to "do MY own thing" that wasn't THEIR "own thing" I was accused of being 'The man" That was the term for PTB at the time LOL


Maybe I will Join up :P and bring my own mask 

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: petrus4 on November 08, 2014, 04:41:44 PM
The Police generally for the most part are law abiding people that really DO want to 'serve and protect'  Yet daily 'we the people' look at the actions of a FEW on the force that take the power into their own hands and effectively become criminals.

I admit to feeling torn by this.  I keep seeing, over and over and over again, the incessant craving that Americans in particular have, to worship the police.  I keep trying to point out why doing so is a bad idea; why irrespective of whether or not the police are good people, civilian reverence of them is a sure means of guaranteeing an authoritarian, thug based, fascist society...but no one listens.

I'm realising now, that the reason why I keep objecting to this, is because it is inconsistent with my own preferences and interests, to live within a fear-based fascist dystopia.  If the rest of you can't understand why this is a bad thing, then if it didn't affect me, I wouldn't care what you think.

The problem is, however, that it does affect me.  I don't have the luxury of simply being able to go to another planet where America's fascism, endless addiction to war, and general depravity and filth do not exist.

I don't want every day to be Memorial Day.  I don't want to listen either to politicians, or even worse, to people on a forum like this who should know better, continually reminding me that I am supposedly a helpless infant that needs the protection of authoritarian psychopaths, from entirely imaginary threats which said psychopaths have themselves invented, for the purpose of keeping themselves relevant.

I do not want police protection.  I have never asked for it, nor benefited from it.  I don't respect the police, I don't value them, and I don't recognise virtually any need for them.  I especially do not recognise, and completely reject, any moral obligation that it is implied that I supposedly have, to be grateful to them.  I owe them nothing whatsoever, and I will not accept being told otherwise.  The existence of the police for me, is completely non-consentual and involuntary; I do not want them, yet I am unable to alter the fact of their existence.

I also reject any claim that authoritarian social structures are fundamentally necessary.  If the last century in particular has demonstrated anything, it is that people are actually at their most dangerous when they are following someone else's orders.

People want authority.  They crave it.  They make excuses for it.  That is why it exists; not because it is necessary, and certainly not because it is good.  They want it because, as Milton wrote and as Khan quoted, they are all still clinging to the vain hope that they might be able to one day rule in Hell; and they prefer that hope, even if it never happens, over the prospect of serving in Heaven.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: VillageIdiot on November 08, 2014, 05:19:08 PM
The only reason you walk the streets in safety is the police. I hope you find out what it's like without them. Maybe then you'll wake up and realize they're one facet of the machine standing between us and complete anarchy - rape, robbery, wanton violence. Clearly you've never been in the middle of a riot.

It's easy to sit in your little chair and type away in the safety of your basement, isn't it? Because the police maintain order in the streets. You wouldn't be so comfortable without them.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: petrus4 on November 08, 2014, 06:04:30 PM
The only reason you walk the streets in safety is the police.

Where I'm living, it isn't.  I'm not saying that violence never happens; but it is rare.  Usually it also only happens when people genuinely have some sort of real grievance with each other, as well.  Mainstream society is pathological in a lot of different ways; Nimbin is less so.  It's not only easier for most people to get their needs met here, but the people here also tend to be more aware of what said needs are, so we don't have a scenario where people just randomly "go off," due to accumulated frustration.

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Maybe then you'll wake up and realize they're one facet of the machine standing between us and complete anarchy - rape, robbery, wanton violence.

This is the usual appeal to Hobbes.  In my experience, violence tends to be caused by three things.

a}  A cultural scenario which normalises violence, and desensitises people to it; via media and other such things.

b}  Physical and/or psychological abuse, which either causes mental illness, or again causes the individual who experiences it, to become more predisposed towards it, and to assume that it is a normal method of relating to people.

c}  Starvation or other forms of material deprivation, which motivate people to become violent, in order to get their needs met.

I live in a scenario where b} exists, but to a large extent a} and c} do not.  I also believe that the only reason why said other two conditions exist within the cities, is because of the pathological nature of cities themselves; not human beings.  When people are removed from urban environments, in my experience their behaviour overwhelmingly tends to improve, and this is because again, their ability to meet their needs also does.

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It's easy to sit in your little chair and type away in the safety of your basement, isn't it? Because the police maintain order in the streets. You wouldn't be so comfortable without them.

Unfortunately for your argument, I've been in violent situations before, on multiple occasions.  In every instance, the police were very predictably nowhere to be found.  In my experience, they materialise like clockwork in order to charge people for trivialities such as traffic offenses or marijuana posession, yet are absent on an equally reliable basis if your life is being threatened.

The visible condescension of your reply, is not appreciated and also rejected; and it serves to reinforce my point.  Namely, that those who advocate the necessity of the police, will usually attempt to verbally bludgeon anyone who disagrees, back into ideological compliance, because you lack a genuinely compelling argument.

Said aggression also implies support for another contention of mine; namely, that both the police and their advocates, are in fact a much greater genuine threat to human wellbeing, than the criminals and/or terrorists which said police or their advocates, claim to protect the population from.

I think a certain amount of protection genuinely is desirable; but I think where my opinion differs from most people, is that I don't feel that I need to be protected by the police, as much as I need protection from them.

EDIT:-  I'm going to finish by making a prediction here, V.I.  Namely, that you most likely won't respond to me here again; and this is because, like most advocates of either the police or authoritarianism more generally, you aren't actually interested in debate or examination of your ideas, but rather, are only really interested in projecting belligerence towards me, because I disagree with the standard groupthink.  I've seen this sort of attitude from a few other people, here.  The goal is simply to punish me for daring to hold or express non-standard ideas; not to actually expose either your ideas or mine, to genuine critical examination.

If, on the other hand, you are willing to prove me wrong, and also improve my opinion of you in the process, I invite you to do so.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: VillageIdiot on November 08, 2014, 06:41:27 PM
I don't care what you think of me. I recognize you as a taker. That's all I need to know about you.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: petrus4 on November 08, 2014, 06:55:16 PM
I don't care what you think of me.

I can hope that I eventually learn to do likewise.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: robomont on November 08, 2014, 11:54:59 PM
lmao.yea thats why i just beat two in court,because they are so honest and upstanding.
thats right,i beat a no insurance ticket by a state trooper and charged two of them with stalking.
i win !!!!!
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on November 09, 2014, 03:48:56 AM
The only reason you walk the streets in safety is the police. I hope you find out what it's like without them. Maybe then you'll wake up and realize they're one facet of the machine standing between us and complete anarchy - rape, robbery, wanton violence. Clearly you've never been in the middle of a riot.

It's easy to sit in your little chair and type away in the safety of your basement, isn't it? Because the police maintain order in the streets. You wouldn't be so comfortable without them.

This is the same harsh clash of opinion that me an a co-worker have.

She picked up on the fact most mention of the police are accompanied with a scowl and look of disgust on my face.

Well, my reaction has only been shaped by my environment and experiences.

The police should be there to serve and protect, under common law.

Anything beyond that, is treading on me.

They currently have a number of authority and ego complexes going on and are outragiously corrupt. I imagine their training is inherently incorrect.

Our queens tax enforcers need to taking down a peg or all.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on November 09, 2014, 04:04:25 AM
I don't care what you think of me. I recognize you as a taker. That's all I need to know about you.

I see him as a contributor.
So many dare not venture where he goes.
But life's all about give 'n' take, aye.

Observation: Petrus more often than not demostrates and utilises logic, common sense, integrity,  moral and ethical correctness. It is amusing and disappointing for me to see that most attempts at challenging his thoughts and expressions are woefully uneducated, emotional and substandard.

Which perfectly demonstrates what is wrong with todays society.
Most people do not realise how the systems brainwashing is so deeply embedded into their being.

Not aimed at anyone in particular btw.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: robomont on November 09, 2014, 04:06:16 AM
anonymous is not añonymous ,now that tor has been hacked.

as long as backdoors are hardwired into every chip in the world,no one is safe.

ive said this for years but folks dont listen.

i can hack anything ,but i choose not to.its what seperates the men from the boys.

hacking is just another form of rape.when its used to hurt peeps.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 09, 2014, 08:56:05 AM
Observation: Petrus more often than not demostrates and utilises logic, common sense, integrity,  moral and ethical correctness. It is amusing and disappointing for me to see that most attempts at challenging his thoughts and expressions are woefully uneducated, emotional and substandard.

Greetings:

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Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 09, 2014, 01:14:49 PM
People want authority.  They crave it.  They make excuses for it.  That is why it exists; not because it is necessary, and certainly not because it is good.  They want it because, as Milton wrote and as Khan quoted, they are all still clinging to the vain hope that they might be able to one day rule in Hell; and they prefer that hope, even if it never happens, over the prospect of serving in Heaven.

But it IS necessary...

From the first group of humans that huddled in a cave, they seek LEADERSHIP... Humans are a social animal. As such the majority require direction and someone to look after them. USUALLY it is the STRONGEST that rules not necessarily the WISEST

But no matter how you cut it humans will always need authority in some form.

It is up to the WISE ONES to make sure that authority works for the good.  It is not the NEED for AUTHORITY that is a problem... it is the selection of the SHEPHERDS that is need of change.


The reason CULTS thrive is because people need someone to follow, same with Religions, same with political parties... same with reeanctment roleplaying groups...  NOTHING will get done until someone steps up to LEAD and start the ball rolling

You can make speeches on this forever, you can state your opinion, but it will not change the basic fact of human nature.

Humans are inherently lazy and want/need someone else to do the work for them.  Take away the police, and you will soon have the gangs running the place.  Like we had in the days of Al Capone. People here in Vegas will even say that maybe Vegas was better when the Mob ran it... even our mayor was a mobster at one time... 

But would you REALLY want the gangs of today running the show?  The Cartels that back them are a lot worse than even the worst cop...
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: petrus4 on November 09, 2014, 07:06:44 PM
Which perfectly demonstrates what is wrong with todays society.
Most people do not realise how the systems brainwashing is so deeply embedded into their being.

I appreciate the support, Sinny, as always.

I truthfully do not understand how pro-authoritarian indoctrination has managed to embed itself as deeply within the minds of many people as it has, these days.  It may be because the methods of Western governments have become much more mature than they have been in the past; although I suspect a deeper issue is at work.

I think the real problem, is the fact that over the space of nearly a century, humanity's integrity has been gradually and systematically eroded.  I am aware of the Machiavellian perspective regarding human nature, even within the medieval context, and I know that it does have a certain degree of validity.

Nevertheless, my opinion (and said opinion is reinforced on a daily basis by direct experience) is that as a species, humanity is currently in a more thoroughly degraded and degenerate state than ever before.  I do not, however, believe that fascism or governmental authority is a cure for said degeneracy; quite the opposite.  As Crowley said, freedom strengthens the will.

It is not being locked in cages, or having uniformed, governmental babysitters that will improve human nature; and if we constantly insist that said human nature is the reason why we require such, then as a species we are genuinely doomed.

Anarchy is not the most dire threat to us, at the current time.  An excess of order is.  Everywhere I look online, now; everywhere I go, if I venture outside of Nimbin, or when I turn on the television while I am here, everything I am confronted with reduces down to a single thing.  An unceasing, continual, inescapable cry, echoing from the souls of probably 90% of contemporary humanity.

"We want our Fuhrer!"

If there is one thing that I have observed for the last two decades, which at times reduces me to a level of genuinely near-suicidal depression, it is that; humanity's relentless, insatiable, and apparently incurable craving for fascism.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: robomont on November 09, 2014, 10:16:18 PM
the mindset you talk of comes from the howdy doodi ,lone ranger shows.
never question and always obey authority.most of the shows from the 50's and 60's were like this.
the new movement in authoritarianism is in the schools.as i have a teen in highschool.ive experienced this with the principle who makes up the rules as he goes along.expecting absolute obediance.so i cussed him out on the phone.

its taken three years but i think ive got through to them that i really dont care what they think.

except for her calculus teacher,hes cool.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Wrabbit2000 on November 10, 2014, 07:34:58 AM
The problem is, however, that it does affect me.  I don't have the luxury of simply being able to go to another planet where America's fascism, endless addiction to war, and general depravity and filth do not exist.

What did the United States do to you personally..or to someone you know/love to cause such venom and toxic feeling inside you? I've wondered this before in general with folks I chat with, but that last line struck me as so vicious to the topic, I had to raise the curiosity.

There are a great many things I don't care for about the American system myself...but to suggest American is the root of problems our planet faces, and to the extent of suggesting off-world escape as the only means to leave it? It seems to suggest a very very shallow understanding of the world and America's place in it. America is not good these days...true. However, to suggest there isn't worse shows a person has lived a decent life thus far, to still hang onto such ideas.

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I do not want police protection.  I have never asked for it, nor benefited from it.  I don't respect the police, I don't value them, and I don't recognise virtually any need for them.

So you are properly trained, well armed and entirely willing to kill other people without hestitation, without compassion and without need to reflect and feel bad about it later, right? You HAVE the means..right now...and within reach to defend yourself by deadly force and you are entirely WILLING to do that...yes?

When in public, if you witness someone being attacked..you can, do and WILL continue to intervene physically and risk yourself for the benefit of someone outmatched or outclassed by thugs or bullies...correct? If your front door is kicked down by home invaders (it happens enough to be a concern now, almost nation wide).....you have everything you need to 'dispatch' the problem ...right?

Finally... When we consider the fact there are human pieces of trash and animals on two legs who view other human beings as little more than prey to feed on during life.....You have the time, training, ability and willingness to hunt those predators on your own time, so they may not cull from the population like a lion on the African savannah, correct?

I raise these points, because if you are not both willing and prepared to do these things, yourself, then police ARE a needed part of society. They always have been, and the need will only grow as populations produce more "defects" to put a cold term to this, by sheer odds and laws of averages. SOMEONE must hunt those people turned feral animal, because they kill freely as open sport.

Should cops be held to a higher standard? Absolutely. Should benefits of the doubt be given to misconduct by them? Absolutely not. Should they be held higher for respect in soceity? Yes.. They absolutely should for being willing to DO the job none of us would want, would be very good at or would LAST at for very long at all.

^^^ With power comes responsibility though and with respect comes obligation. Getting the respect the do DEMANDS we hold them, without question, to account for whatever they do wrong. Without exception and without the work to find excuses which currently becomes job #1 when something comes up. After all...Police are who normal people call when excuses have run out in their own situation. The last we need is to have a new set arrive.

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People want authority.  They crave it.

People want it for what I noted above. The world is not a nice place, and Darwin hit it 100% correct. It is survival of the fittest, down to the street level where that law actually DOES still rule life and death. Even in America.

You and others may be perfectly willing to become your own police force, when needed, and do so with cold efficiency as called upon. Most people would rather pay OTHERS to do it....and so, they need those others available and willing to take a paycheck for the work.

Hence... We don't want authority. We NEED it. Much like any society of size does. It's been tried the other way, and outside occasional groups of like minded people choosing to cooperate? It's never been anything but bloody and terrible failure.

I'd challenge anyone to show me an example which turned out differently and wasn't limited to like minded people participating.

** sorry.. A piece of quoted text outside quotes got left in the middle of things.. My bad
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: WarToad on November 10, 2014, 08:49:02 AM
"Nature is red, in tooth, in claw."  Humanity is not outside of nature.  We are a warlike race, always have been, still are, the future does not look different.  The strong dominate, the weak kneel or die, the smart manipulate their way through the game as best they can and stay under the radar.

This has been your tutorial, welcome to the game of Life.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on November 10, 2014, 09:44:35 AM
What did the United States do to you personally..or to someone you know/love to cause such venom and toxic feeling inside you?

I'll hazard a guess at spending his tax dollars on genocide.

 
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but to suggest American is the root of problems our planet faces
I don't think he means 'America' the country, but everything the American policy makers have created today.

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However, to suggest there isn't worse shows a person has lived a decent life thus far, to still hang onto such ideas.

How many other countries are militarily stationed in at least 38 other countries?

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So you are properly trained, well armed and entirely willing to kill other people without hestitation, without compassion and without need to reflect and feel bad about it later

I'd prefer him NOT to be all that you just mentioned!! lmafo!!

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When in public, if you witness someone being attacked..you can, do and WILL continue to intervene physically and risk yourself for the benefit of someone outmatched or outclassed by thugs or bullies...correct?


I'm sure if we COULD we WOULD.

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If your front door is kicked down by home invaders (it happens enough to be a concern now, almost nation wide).....you have everything you need to 'dispatch' the problem ...right?

2nd Ammendment should do just fine.

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Finally... When we consider the fact there are human pieces of trash and animals on two legs who view other human beings as little more than prey to feed on during life.....You have the time, training, ability and willingness to hunt those predators on your own time, so they may not cull from the population like a lion on the African savannah, correct?

You could make your point without all the bullcrap analogies youknow..


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I raise these points, because if you are not both willing and prepared to do these things, yourself, then police ARE a needed part of society.

Incorrect. Once again I see people jumping from A to C without ever having passed B.

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They always have been, and the need will only grow as populations produce more "defects" to put a cold term to this, by sheer odds and laws of averages. SOMEONE must hunt those people turned feral animal, because they kill freely as open sport.


Words escape me.

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You and others may be perfectly willing to become your own police force, when needed, and do so with cold efficiency as called upon. Most people would rather pay OTHERS to do it....and so, they need those others available and willing to take a paycheck for the work.


Still missing his whole debate and argument. This isn't about the lack of need of protection, but the questioning of authority..

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Hence... We don't want authority. We NEED it.

Speak for yer self.

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It's been tried the other way, and outside occasional groups of like minded people choosing to cooperate? It's never been anything but bloody and terrible failure.


Evidence please.

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I'd challenge anyone to show me an example which turned out differently and wasn't limited to like minded people participating.

I'm sure the list will be extensive - I can't dedicate the time, perhaps Petrus will.

Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 10, 2014, 12:17:02 PM
I'm sure the list will be extensive - I can't dedicate the time, perhaps Petrus will.

Are you sure?

Always LOVE those answers when asked to produce data to back up a position... "Oh I am busy now... maybe someone ELSE will do the work"

Kinda proves our point :P
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on November 10, 2014, 12:52:25 PM

Kinda proves our point :P

The zero amount of data I inputted has zero effect on the data for or against our arguments. Something + Zero remains the something it was, don't you know.

Hence, my post proves nothing.

You are proving my point of A-C having missed B .

Why is it I should prove anything? I haven't provided data because the opposing opinion hasn't..... How about somebody disproves me? Just as effective isn't it?

And besides that, we haven't even outlined the formulae of what it is we are trying to prove or disprove, what variables and definitions are involved, or methods which can be utilised..

Yet, somehow we are  wrong already!

Derp.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on November 10, 2014, 01:45:01 PM
Also, I don't know how it truly is in America, but the standard 'code of conduct' over here in the UK is we 'never grass'.

Police are kept out of about 80% of working or lower class within Britian.
(Can't really speak for any other lol). 

All sorts go on, but we handle it our selves.

I can't describe it truly, or explain how honestly embedded this is within society, but ask any Brit, n they'll tell ya.

The punishment usually fits the crime far more effectively also.

A thief often gets taken from and shamed, a naughty kid a slap round the ear hole, a nonce will be watched (or worse), and a murderer usually handed over to the authoritys. Society keeps it's self in check here. British society that is anyway - the foreigners are fastly destroying that.

I believe there was a time in America where the town kept them selves in check?

The fact is, security does not come at the cost of liberty, and I think that's the point me and Petrus are trying to make.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Wrabbit2000 on November 10, 2014, 06:38:00 PM
Sorry to push your buttons so hard.... Petrus and I have debated this in less than confrontational ways a few times. It wasn't meant confrontational, although I do say I'm American...Proud to be without apology (outside those who lead my nation) and the bash America as a sport nonsense gets old. Real old after awhile...but that's a personal observation.

Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 10, 2014, 06:42:36 PM
Gold for you!  ;D
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: spacemaverick on November 10, 2014, 07:49:06 PM
My 2 cents...attack the American policy makers not my country which are the people.  I don't like them either but I do fight against their policies.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 11, 2014, 04:44:13 AM
"Nature is red, in tooth, in claw."  Humanity is not outside of nature.  We are a warlike race, always have been, still are, the future does not look different.  The strong dominate, the weak kneel or die, the smart manipulate their way through the game as best they can and stay under the radar.

This has been your tutorial, welcome to the game of Life.


As Matrix is fond of saying

BINGO


"We're human beings with the blood of a million savage years on our hands But we can stop it. We can admit that we're killers. but we won't kill today." - Captain James T. Kirk

But the armchair activist will never understand this   8)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: petrus4 on November 15, 2014, 03:46:48 AM
I originally was not going to bother answering this; because for some time, I wondered what the point was.  I have tended to suspect for a while now that whatever conclusions people around here might have of me, have already been drawn.  I'm not going to convert anyone on either side of the line.

As a result, this will not be an attempt at self-justification, but an explanation.

What did the United States do to you personally..or to someone you know/love to cause such venom and toxic feeling inside you? I've wondered this before in general with folks I chat with, but that last line struck me as so vicious to the topic, I had to raise the curiosity.

I have spent 20 years immersing myself in the American government's darkness, Wrabbit.  While other people went outside, and engaged in the more normal activities of life, I remained online, night after night, until sunrise, reading and learning.

I know about Operation Northwoods.  I know about MK-ULTRA, the Monarch mind control program, and the Psychic Warrior remote viewing project.  I know about Jonestown.  I know about REX-84, and Operation Garden Plot.  I know about the Project for the New American Century.  I know about the CIA's adventures in Nicaragua, and their assassinations of various political leaders who proved inconvenient; mostly in Latin America, of course, but in some other countries as well.  I've read things like Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, and the operations manual that the CIA wrote while they were in Nicuragua.  I know about Waco.  I know about Morris Fishbein and the formation of the AMA, and what his goon squad did to people like Royal Rife; as well as what the FDA did to Wilhelm Reich and his research.

I know about many inconsistencies and irregularities associated with World War 2.  I know that the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan not out of necessity, but out of vindictiveness on the orders of Harry Truman, as an act of retaliation for Pearl Harbour, and that neither Eisenhower nor MacArthur supported its' use.  I know that the war was ultimately funded by the same group of bankers on both the Allied and the Axis sides, and that the Germans at times enlisted the services of corporations which were ostensibly headquartered in Allied countries, such as IBM.

All of this has convinced me, over a long period of time, that the proverbial "good guys," are not who most of us think they are.  They are not the Five Eyes' governments, and they are most especially not the intelligence agencies of those countries.

I am also, however, not naive.  I have at least a cursory knowledge of the history of Rome in particular.  I have read Machiavelli, Sun Tzu, and to a lesser extent von Clauswitz.  I know full well, therefore, that certain unpleasant but expedient actions are occasionally necessary for the maintenance of a given civilisation.  Yet there is a massive difference between occasional, irregular movements made in the shadows on the one hand, and the routine activities of organisations like the NSA and GCHQ on the other.

Does this mean that I think that America as a whole is as evil as its' government?  No; but then again...I've seen recently how more and more American cities are passing laws criminalising homelessness, and arresting those who try to feed the homeless.  There is virtually no opposition from the majority of the public, to these laws.  Most polls on 9/11 indicate that more than 50% of the public still believe the government's account of the incident, as well.

The question of the American public's level of responsibility, for the nature of its' government, is a complex one.  It does not, in truth, have a simple yes or no answer.  As I have said before, Hitler observed that were it not for the psychological and moral flaws of the German people, which he was able to exploit, he would not have been able to achieve any of what he did.

When I spoke of American depravity and filth in an earlier post, what was I referring to?  I was primarily referring to the hypocrisy of various minority advocacy movements.  In a very recent case, Matt Taylor (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-30055278) has been widely condemned for wearing a "sexist," shirt which apparently contains images of female comic book characters; yet as has also been observed, if the shirt had been worn by a woman, it would probably be considered an empowering depiction of female sexuality.

I am also referring to another piece of blatant hypocrisy (http://np.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/2m7enk/gay_men_or_anybody_do_you_find_it_slightly_weird/cm1n4vb?context=3) that I recently encountered on Reddit.  The gay movement has continually screamed blue bloody murder about "discrimination," for years at this point; yet these are the same people who will get a Christian cake shop shut down for refusing to bake a gay couple a wedding cake on the one hand, while expressing ambivalence about heterosexuals entering a gay venue on the other.

I'm fed up to the back teeth with both feminism and the gay movement, at this point.  I am so utterly sick of, and furious with them that I don't know how to adequately verbalise it; but for what it's worth here, know that I am absolutely not some sort of prudish bigot, where non-heteronormative sexuality is concerned.  I've had numerous transgendered friends online, as well as spending long periods in IRC channels dedicated to both the gay and BDSM community, as well as having spent time within the roleplaying community of World of Warcraft.  I've also fairly regularly seen material on the /h/ and /d/ boards of 4chan, that would probably induce vomiting in a number of people here.  So their sexuality, in and of itself, is not the problem.

What I am fed up with is their authoritarianism, and their hypocrisy, and the fact that they insist on having everything their own way.  As soon as they perceive anyone as a source of opposition to them, then it becomes perfectly fine in their minds, for them to treat said opposition in a manner as bad as they themselves have been treated, if not worse.  I'm also fed up with the toxicity and hatred of men that feminism fosters and encourages, and the fact that feminism has made it virtually impossible to have a successful, long term monogamous relationship in any Western country.

Why do I mention that in a post complaining about America?  Because both of these movements are primarily (although not exclusively) American; and they do erode and destroy the social cohesion of non-American countries that are exposed to them, as does New Atheism, which is also Anglo-American in origin.

I know your perspective is moderate and balanced, Wrabbit; or that you try to be. 

I, on the other hand, am radical.  I am not moderate, because as far as I am concerned, the current reality is not moderate. 

I ask you to read the above, and then, with what you now know about my background, to ask yourself why we most likely have very different perspectives about who was responsible for 9/11, as one of the most important examples.  Go and read about Operation Northwoods and the recommendations of the Project for the New American Century, and then come back and tell me about how it was still just a wonderful freaking coincidence, that a completely random bunch of Third World Islamic terrorists gave the Bush government its' most treasured Christmas wish.

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America is not good these days...true. However, to suggest there isn't worse shows a person has lived a decent life thus far, to still hang onto such ideas.

This is the standard American defense, and it has been for a very long time.  Even if it ever did hold water, it does not any more; it hasn't since at least the first Gulf War, if not Vietnam, because both of those conflicts were based on farce, and any genuinely educated person knows that.  The fact that the Chinese government might be doing worse things, does not justify criminal or immoral behaviour on the part of the American government.  It is a deflection, and a logical fallacy.

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So you are properly trained, well armed and entirely willing to kill other people without hestitation, without compassion and without need to reflect and feel bad about it later, right? You HAVE the means..right now...and within reach to defend yourself by deadly force and you are entirely WILLING to do that...yes?

I suspect you know what the answer to this question is, which is also why it was worded rhetorically.  My answer is that 98% of the time, the need for violence with which to defend myself is unnecessary; and I also do not believe, and have never seen any solid evidence to suggest, that this is primarily because of the actions of the police.  To claim that it is, is as far as I am concerned, a reflexive, unfalsifiable expression of mind control.

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When in public, if you witness someone being attacked..you can, do and WILL continue to intervene physically and risk yourself for the benefit of someone outmatched or outclassed by thugs or bullies...correct? If your front door is kicked down by home invaders (it happens enough to be a concern now, almost nation wide).....you have everything you need to 'dispatch' the problem ...right?

I do not live in a major population center, which means that I do not live in an area where either of these scenarios occurs, or is likely to occur.  I live in a town which has an exceptionally high degree of social cohesion.  People behave themselves here because of a network of relationships that are based on trust, and because it is to their own detriment to do otherwise; not because of punitive action taken by the police.  I'm not saying that police action never occurs here; but it is exceptionally rare.

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Finally... When we consider the fact there are human pieces of trash and animals on two legs who view other human beings as little more than prey to feed on during life.

I know, and have known, of very few such individuals meeting the above description, who are not public servants, quite seriously.  Look into it, and you will discover that overwhelmingly the most dangerous individuals have all been members of one government or another.  Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, Pol Pot; all government leaders.  Closer to home, we can also talk about the attrocities committed within Iraq under the second Bush presidency

The enemy are not civilian criminals within the public, and this has been proven endlessly as far as I am concerned.  The real collective enemy of the public, are those who said public refuse to acknowledge as such; the police, military, and government.  I consider both Bush presidents in particular, to very effectively match the description that you have given in the above quote; yet apparently far too many Americans do not.

You might try and cite organised crime elements, such as the Mexican or Columbian cartels for example; but in response to that, I would encourage you to conduct some research on the effect that the decriminalisation of marijuana has had in Colorado recently.  I'm not saying that said cartels no longer exist, but I'm sure you'll find good evidence that decriminalisation has been very bad for their business.  As a result, we find that this type of criminality is aided and abetted by governments, and police are often also beneficiaries of it.  Look into the CIA's history of cocaine trafficking as well, for instance.  The entire reason why the DEA are so opposed to ending drug prohibition, is because doing so will also end their funding, and they know that.

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I raise these points, because if you are not both willing and prepared to do these things, yourself, then police ARE a needed part of society. They always have been, and the need will only grow as populations produce more "defects" to put a cold term to this, by sheer odds and laws of averages. SOMEONE must hunt those people turned feral animal, because they kill freely as open sport.

I don't believe in the idea that people simply "go off," randomly, or otherwise engage in inexplicable behaviour.  People do things for reasons.  Occasionally, mental illness genuinely is one of those reasons, but even there, I don't believe that things are as mysterious as governments want us to believe.  Governments want the public to believe that homicidal psychosis is supposedly as random as a lightning strike; that a person can go from walking down the street or otherwise behaving entirely normally, to engaging in mass murder in the literal space of minutes. 

You are trying to appeal to my fear, here; yet for the most part, it is a fear that I simply do not have.  I believe that the reason why mass murder incidents occur more regularly in America than in other countries, is because America is a highly economically stratified, and from what I have seen, generally psychopathic and dysfunctional society.  In other words, when an American conducts a school shooting, all he is really doing, is behaving in a manner that is consistent with the society in which he has been raised.  You will probably consider such a statement to be grievously offensive, yet I would encourage you to look at the nature of many urban black neighbourhoods in particular, before you try and tell me that I am wrong.

Massacres like Columbine do not occur randomly.  They occur as a result of resentment, frustration, cumulative misanthropy, and often a loss of belief in the individual's ability to survive; factors, in other words, which are also often present with suicides as well.  The difference between suicide and homicide, usually revolves around whether or not the individual in question has decided to take other people down with him.  Again, yes, psychopathic serial killers do exist; but you might want to look at statistics on the number of those that existed, before the late nineteenth century, and the emergence of large urban population centers.

You can look at virtually any index of human wellbeing you like, Wrabbit.  For the industrialised world, America, Portugal, and Australia are consistently the three at the bottom; and the other thing that these three countries also consistently have in common, is their level of economic inequality.  Violence is not a random force of nature; it has a specific cause, and said cause is the type of Objectivist social model which many Americans view as a moral ideal.  School shootings, domestic violence, hard drug use, other forms of crime; the graphs for all of them very closely match with the level of economic inequality.

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I know that there are people here who derive a sense of moral satisfaction and superiority, from referring to me as a parasite; yet what they do not understand is that I genuinely want everyone else to have what I have, because I know that we will not develop a truly harmonious society without it.  Yet, another part of the problem here, is the fact that many Americans in particular do not actually want social harmony; they believe that conflict is not only inevitable, but actually desirable and the only possible crucible for human development.

I've spent too much time conversing with fascists on 4chan.  Compared to them, this forum is a relatively easy crowd; yet it is disturbing how many here have similar perspectives.  The supposed victory over Hitler is one of the main justifications touted for every new war which the Five Eyes governments want to start; yet I am confident that if Hitler saw the current nature of Western society, his response would be a broad, and extremely satisfied smile.

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Hence... We don't want authority. We NEED it. Much like any society of size does. It's been tried the other way, and outside occasional groups of like minded people choosing to cooperate? It's never been anything but bloody and terrible failure.

Yes, said groups do need to be very small.  I've never tried to say otherwise.  Federalism is a terrible thing.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 15, 2014, 04:25:22 AM
Well here is a small country for sale....

You could rule it anyway you see fit    8)


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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on November 15, 2014, 09:41:18 AM
What I am fed up with is their authoritarianism, and their hypocrisy, and the fact that they insist on having everything their own way.  As soon as they perceive anyone as a source of opposition to them, then it becomes perfectly fine in their minds, for them to treat said opposition in a manner as bad as they themselves have been treated, if not worse.  I'm also fed up with the toxicity and hatred of men that feminism fosters and encourages, and the fact that feminism has made it virtually impossible to have a successful, long term monogamous relationship in any Western country.

Why do I mention that in a post complaining about America?  Because both of these movements are primarily (although not exclusively) American; and they do erode and destroy the social cohesion of non-American countries that are exposed to them, as does New Atheism, which is also Anglo-American in origin.
I agree, that's the same "need for enemies" from people in the US (and, apparently, the US government itself) that I have noticed since I started reading online forums, some 11 years ago.

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You might try and cite organised crime elements, such as the Mexican or Columbian cartels for example; but in response to that, I would encourage you to conduct some research on the effect that the decriminalisation of marijuana has had in Colorado recently.
That happened in Portugal with the decriminalisation of the use of any drugs and the classifying of drug addiction as a health problem.

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You are trying to appeal to my fear, here; yet for the most part, it is a fear that I simply do not have.  I believe that the reason why mass murder incidents occur more regularly in America than in other countries, is because America is a highly economically stratified, and from what I have seen, generally psychopathic and dysfunctional society.
I also suspect that the use of several medicinal behavioural drugs (I don't really know what to call them) has some influence in that.

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Massacres like Columbine do not occur randomly.  They occur as a result of resentment, frustration, cumulative misanthropy, and often a loss of belief in the individual's ability to survive; factors, in other words, which are also often present with suicides as well.
I also see that as a result of that "need for an enemy" thought and how, apparently, that idea is embedded in people's mind in the US. One of the things I always thought strange is how many times I see in US books, movies and TV shows the idea that small boys are supposed to loath small girls and act as if they are some kind of enemy, as I never saw that in Portugal or in books, movies or TV shows from other countries.

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You can look at virtually any index of human wellbeing you like, Wrabbit.  For the industrialised world, America, Portugal, and Australia are consistently the three at the bottom; and the other thing that these three countries also consistently have in common, is their level of economic inequality.
At least one example would be good. :)

Edited to add: great post, petrus4.  :)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Glaucon on November 15, 2014, 02:13:46 PM
*Picture me as a narrator in which you're starring in: "Dementia Brain Tour"*

As the semaphore relay's a sub-domain of topics, the subject swings, and swings, and swings inside....perpetual chaos juxtaposed with the Craftsman.

"Transmitting their becoming to one another in a cycle, so it seems" a reader thinks. He knows he's not impressionable stuff
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: spacemaverick on November 15, 2014, 02:59:14 PM
PETRUS.....you may be surprised but I agree with you on a great number of points you brought out.  I have been studying (for my own knowledge) the same subjects since about 1988 and continue to do so to this point.  American citizens have lost a lot of freedoms that we once enjoyed and it is our fault.  I got to the point that I told myself that I would inform people of the truth and what they do with that truth is up to them to do what they will.  People are going to believe what they want to believe.  I figured my job is to inform and that is all.  I have been called everything in the book for some of my views...oh well...their loss.  I have seen the government system in our military and law enforcement and I don't like what I see but I can sure inform others about it and give my opinion.  I believe what it boils down to in the end is human nature for those around us.  You put garbage in and you get garbage out.  I look at countries with dictatorships and all it is I see is that a small group of people want all they can get and when that doesn't satisfy...then they must have the power over people.  We as citizens let it happen over time because we have become more interested in entertainment and the like to the point of being fanatical...can we do the same about our freedoms?  I wonder what it will take for people to wake up.  You said a lot of what I have been wanting to say.  GOLD FOR YA...

I still love my country...I just don't like the power behind the scenes that want to take it from me.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: petrus4 on November 16, 2014, 03:13:16 AM
I want to make a few additional statements, in this thread; I have not said all that I need to, quite yet.  There is something else that I want to draw people's attention to.  Something vitally important.

Over the last couple of days, I have been re-reading accounts and some background information, of the battle of Thermopylae, which was, of course, dramatised in the film 300.  For those of you who do not know, that is the story of 300 Spartans who temporarily stalled the advance of the Persian emperor Xerxes, and a force of at least several hundred thousand men.

We are told to revere Leonidas and his men as heroes.  Yet perhaps two days ago also, on television here I saw a dramatisation of the life of Ned Kelly, who was a bushranger during the late 19th century.  Something that I had not previously known, was that Kelly was the leader of a populist movement, and wanted to create an independent state of Victoria, which would have seceded from the Australian Commonwealth.  When Kelly was hanged, apparently the authorities also received a petition asking for him to be pardoned, with 32,000 signatures.

My point here, is to encourage awareness of the fact that we revere who we are told to, and we condemn who we are told to, and history is written by the victors.  Leonidas and the Spartans are depicted to us as defending Greek democracy, yet the Spartans did not have a democratic system in precisely the same manner as Athens; they still had kings.  General Lee and the Confederate Army in America, on the other hand, are demonised for wanting their autonomy; and Lincoln is held up as the saviour of the Union, despite the myriad crimes that Lincoln committed in the process of doing so.

I am no more free of the mind control myself, than anyone else.  Yet one of the things that use of LSD taught me, is that while I do not have a single thought in my head for the most part, that has not been put there by the cabal, the one ability that I do at least still have, is the ability to re-arrange said building blocks of thought into my own shapes; and as it turns out, that may just be enough.

Question the conventional narratives, all of you.  Read The Art of War.  Read The Prince.  Read The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.  Read Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars.  Read The 48 Laws of Power.  Learn how war is waged, and how the political game is played. 

It does not have to take a lot of time.  You can study a chapter of The Art of War in the same amount of time that it will take to watch an episode of Family Guy.  One of those two activities will benefit you; the other will not.  If you find the theory boring, that is fine.  Buy a copy of Borderlands 2 from Steam, or Age of Empires, and set yourself the task of recognising in practical terms, how your current chapter of The Art of War is relevant to what you will do within those games.  Do the same with the other books I have listed.

Once you have done so, you will no longer continue to give the Five Eyes governments the benefit of the doubt, because you will recognise the patterns.  You will be able to see the circles, and how they go around, and around, without stopping.  History has truthfully repeated itself for thousands of years.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 16, 2014, 03:40:16 AM
Once you have done so, you will no longer continue to give the Five Eyes governments the benefit of the doubt, because you will recognise the patterns.  You will be able to see the circles, and how they go around, and around, without stopping.

How about I just ignore Da Gubmint all together and go on about my business?

 ::)

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History has truthfully repeated itself for thousands of years.

That is because people will always stick their noses into another's business. It's what Hu-mons do best.  Some guy has a bad day, so picks on the first person that crosses his path files a complaint for that person being rude and gets them fired... when that person had done nothing wrong

It is the nature of the beast  to meddled in the affair of others.  That will not likely change anytime soon

So how is your new forum going?

 8)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 16, 2014, 03:43:50 AM
You put garbage in and you get garbage out.

Well see... that is all a matter of perspective  :P

In Japan they take sh!t and make it into hamburgers

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on November 16, 2014, 06:15:18 AM
Yet perhaps two days ago also, on television here I saw a dramatisation of the life of Ned Kelly, who was a bushranger during the late 19th century.  Something that I had not previously known, was that Kelly was the leader of a populist movement, and wanted to create an independent state of Victoria, which would have seceded from the Australian Commonwealth.  When Kelly was hanged, apparently the authorities also received a petition asking for him to be pardoned, with 32,000 signatures.
I remember watching a TV series some 30 years ago about him, and, although I don't remember any reference to secession from the Australian Commonwealth, I remember that there was some kind of land dispute (based on the laws of the time) between two opposing sides.

I think it was called "The last outlaw" or something like that.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on November 16, 2014, 11:55:17 AM
Sorry to push your buttons so hard.... Petrus and I have debated this in less than confrontational ways a few times. It wasn't meant confrontational, although I do say I'm American...Proud to be without apology (outside those who lead my nation) and the bash America as a sport nonsense gets old. Real old after awhile...but that's a personal observation.

Wrabbit, you didn't push my buttons :)

Sometimes I'm just pushed for time in order to convey a 'tone' to accompany my posts.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on November 16, 2014, 12:10:01 PM
How about I just ignore Da Gubmint all together and go on about my business?


Because ignoring everything will make it go away?

Suppose it all comes down to what you want in life, and who you put first.

I'll lay my life down to change the world, I gain joy from being constructive outwardly, and inwardly, but more outwardly.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 18, 2014, 02:02:19 PM
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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 18, 2014, 04:56:03 PM
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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 18, 2014, 08:10:00 PM
Because ignoring everything will make it go away?

Well yeah  sorta   :P
But mostly they will go bother someone else

 ::)


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Suppose it all comes down to what you want in life, and who you put first.

I used to be the go to guy to get problems solved. Didn't get me anywhere  :P  Once the 'feel good" rush wears off it's stark reality you face...  I think I will do the 'me first' for a while and see how that pans out

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I'll lay my life down to change the world, I gain joy from being constructive outwardly, and inwardly, but more outwardly.

There are a LOT of dead heros out there while the psychopaths sit in the comfort of their gem lined caves and go on about their business... 

The days of Glory where "Fearless Leader" was at the head of his troops leading the Charge are long gone,



Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: spacemaverick on November 18, 2014, 08:13:14 PM
Well yeah  sorta   :P
But mostly they will go bother someone else

 ::)


I used to be the go to guy to get problems solved. Didn't get me anywhere  :P  Once the 'feel good" rush wears off it's stark reality you face...  I think I will do the 'me first' for a while and see how that pans out

There are a LOT of dead heros out there while the psychopaths sit in the comfort of their gem lined caves and go on about their business... 

The days of Glory where "Fearless Leader" was at the head of his troops leading the Charge are long gone,

Here...here great one... my sentiments exactly.  that's the point I have reached.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 18, 2014, 08:17:28 PM
The only thing at this stage of my life worth laying down my life for is my family.

I did the service thing already.

 ;D
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on November 18, 2014, 08:52:42 PM
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I used to be the go to guy to get problems solved. Didn't get me anywhere  :P  Once the 'feel good" rush wears off it's stark reality you face...  I think I will do the 'me first' for a while and see how that pans out

I agree 100% there with you Z . 8)

We all learn this in the End I guess ....  :)  Well should do anyway.

When the World passes by and at the end of each 'Story', the Only one left is Our 'Real Selves'.   :)

It is then, we understand WHAT we experienced, and WHY.

God I'm NOT getting Old .... I've become old ....  LOL.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 18, 2014, 09:20:26 PM
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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 18, 2014, 09:37:54 PM
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Nice!

 Seems China tops the list by a strong lead   8)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: burntheships on November 18, 2014, 11:46:40 PM
...attack the American policy makers not my country which are the people. 

Gold for you!
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: burntheships on November 18, 2014, 11:51:56 PM
Houston, we have a problem… (http://map.ipviking.com)

Who is doing what? Oh wait...
Isnt hacking a form of censorship?

IF someone hacks my email, *I* am censored.
 

Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: RUSSO on November 20, 2014, 08:34:43 AM

Isnt hacking a form of censorship?

I think it works both ways.

Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: WarToad on November 20, 2014, 08:50:42 AM
Who is doing what? Oh wait...
Isnt hacking a form of censorship?

IF someone hacks my email, *I* am censored.

And this is my problem with Anonymous.  They are self appointed judge, jury, and executioner.  Am I allowed to do that against a person or business entity I don't like?  Of course not.  Should they be allowed?  Of course not.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: petrus4 on November 22, 2014, 11:53:00 PM
And this is my problem with Anonymous.  They are self appointed judge, jury, and executioner.  Am I allowed to do that against a person or business entity I don't like?  Of course not.  Should they be allowed?  Of course not.

Unfortunately, this is the paradox of vigilantism.  In order to act, a vigilante first has to make decisions; decisions which are not always possible.

If Anonymous genuinely were effective vigilantes, then I would probably feel more supportive of them than I currently do.  What they lack, however, is discernment.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 26, 2014, 10:41:44 PM
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Aim #OpSafeWinter highlight our intentions for 2014-2015 we are Anonymous, this Is #opsafewinter.

For too long you just walk on by, you pass that soul on the street, that soul, your son, your mother, father, brother, daughter. And look away, not wanting to admit how close you are to being like them.

Some claim that homelessness is caused by something they did wrong. We aim to project that homelessness is an effect, an effect that our current humanity accepts. There are people on our streets in our communities without shelter, without food, without warmth or the comforts too many take for granted through no fault of their own.

Why does society demonize the poor? - (when the fault lies with the rich).

And ask yourself, How long would you last if the next paycheck was your last? What would you do to feed, shelter and keep yourself safe without money? Who could you turn to?

Anonymous does not acknowledge this to be an acceptable status quo. Human beings are not disposable, are not to be thrown away like the trash and ignored; we all have value.

We will do what we can to assist those who find themselves In this vortex of poverty. We ask you, do what you can. Humanity and kindness costs nothing.

Humanity In this age appears to be lacking. There exists in every community small pockets of humanity, here and there, struggling, fighting against a norm that's sickening, that says I'm ok, I have what I need and without a care for others. But there are those among us who are homeless, hungry, cold, alone.

Anonymous asks you, do what you can. Assist those that need support. Share just a little of our comforts with another in need.

Embed In your child's mindset that helping others is a normal human trait and your child will instill this trait in their child's mind and we progress. We progress as a species and prove to the world that humanity is here, alive.

We can make the world a better place simply by caring for each other. Fulfilling our needs through each other in the spirit of compassion, understanding and generosity - that is the duty we share as humans.

We learned to share when we were children. Let's not forget it as adults.

A moment of kindness can change the world for you and the people you help.

Kindness is contagious. Your act of kindness and generosity can save a life.

We can put humanity on a plateau that none have seen before.

Lets do this, be a part of opsafewinter

We are anonymous
We do not forgive
We do not forget
Do what you can
The homeless can expect us


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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on November 27, 2014, 05:33:43 AM
?Why does society demonize the poor?- (when the fault lies with the rich).

Because human society needs to be a winner. We see it in all our activities. Always the need to be on top.  So the poor are considered at the bottom...  it IS as simple as that

And its not the fault of the rich that a fool and his money are soon parted. How many LOTTO winners are back to being poor in a short time? Because they have not learned the Law of Money. Yes the rich DO take advantage of this fact of human nature rather than teach the poor how to handle money, but its not their fault :P

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And ask yourself, How long would you last if the next paycheck was your last?

Been there SEVERAL times in my life... down to the last penny, no work... the last time the entire family was out of work. We lost our house TWICE because of the economy in Winnipeg devalued the property and GM closing the factory in Oshawa droped propety to 25% of their value. So moving to the US we had thought we would be able to sell but ended up losing it all because it was cheaper to walk then take the loss


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What would you do to feed, shelter and keep yourself safe without money? Who could you turn to?

Anything I can... collect scrap and turn it in for cash... stand with the illegals waiting to get some day work (yes it works... ended up getting a great job that way in Winnipeg because I had viable skills) Sell stuff at flea markets, yard sales...

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Anonymous does not acknowledge this to be an acceptable status quo. Human beings are not disposable, are not to be thrown away like the trash and ignored; we all have value.

Whether you accept it or not there ARE useless eaters on this planet :P

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We will do what we can to assist those who find themselves In this vortex of poverty. We ask you, do what you can. Humanity and kindness costs nothing.

Always have... we raised MILLIONS for charities that actually helped people with our guild. No masks :P Hard to build a reputation behind a mask... and I have the letters of thanks to prove it


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Humanity In this age appears to be lacking. There exists in every community small pockets of humanity, here and there, struggling, fighting against a norm thats sickening, that says I'm ok, I have what I need and without a care for others.

Blame all the Gloom and Doom porn on the internet that gives people a false reality of how bad things are  so they give up.

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But there are those among us who are homeless, hungry, cold, alone.

Well move to the desert. Back during the Depression many tent cities popped up out here in the desert. Its WARM here  no winters really. And there is tons of free food in the desert.  Yeah yeah I know  its not that simple right?  Well the desert is full of Yucca Roots (potato like) and Prickly Pears (leaves are a succulent veggie and fruits are like citrus. Lots of Quil and Rabbits and Geckos taste like chicken

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 01, 2014, 02:26:58 PM
2:35 OpSafeWinter 2014 #OpSafeWinter Anonymous - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BijOTs862Gs)



facebook - Anonymous OpSafeWinter (https://www.facebook.com/anonymousopsafewinter)

Greetings, we are Anonymous.

We come to you once again to ask for your help in making the lives of those less fortunate more bearable.

In times like these when it seems humanity, tolerance and peace is hard to find, it falls to us - the ordinary citizens of this planet to show there is still love, compassion and respect left in the world.

Operation SafeWinter was and still is about caring first and helping second. A kind word, the willingness to listen and even a smile can change a person's day, but a blanket, some warm clothes or even a sandwich can change a person's life.

We ask you to help us help those who are suffering the most in our societies. We do not ask for donations of money, just donations of time.

The Operation Safewinter mission is in three phases.

Phase 1. To build an interactive map showing the locations of shelter, soup kitchens, advice centers, etc worldwide.

This phase has already begun, but we need your help. List the resources in your town or city and send it to us. Use the map to know where these places are locally and pass on this knowledge.

Phase 2. Encourage volunteer units to help gather blankets and clothing to be distributed out to those that need them most.

Using the map, work with already established groups in your areas to help even if its just an hour per week. Make sandwiches, cakes and hand out food parcels. Bottles of water are most important.

Phase 3. To save just one life this winter, to make the day better for just one person.

To work together with respect, love and compassion - and show that even though it seems the world is out of control -  that, we, as citizens of this planet, still have our humanity.

We are Anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Operation Safewinter re-engaged.
Expect us.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 03, 2014, 07:08:41 PM
This ties in with previous communication in this thread from esteemed members in Portugal… enjoy.    ;)
Please let us know what You think of this.


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Big. Maior Corrupção Governo De Portugal Anonymous Expect Us!!! . Epic - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz6y2yQbZJE)

Published on Jun 28, 2014

Greetings citizens, Portuguese.

We are Anonymous.

The year 2013 was the most shameful that some Portuguese lived in almost 40 years of democracy,
was the year in which the largest number of graduates emigrated,
was the year that the government put more people out of work than ever
insisting on telling us that unemployment is an opportunity,
was the year in which the elderly were unable to buy medicines,
the year in which the bank has raised more money from the pockets of Portuguese, through their agents in government
was the year that most children were raised in poverty, many whose parents have no money to buy them a book, or a pair of shoes, or even a warm coat for the cold this winter, which still not passed,
was the year in which the largest number of companies, small and medium businesses closed,
was the year that restoration suffered most in recent years,
was the year that all of us who are humble people of Portugal, workers were placed in poverty nearly destroying the middle class, yet somehow some were able to input to economic growth,
was the year in which the public served as a scapegoat for the crisis,
was the year that all pensioners Portugal were razed, and openly exposed to cuts that will do nothing to resolve the crisis call these gentlemen speak.

This was a black year, but as always not sleep Anonymous, the Anonymous is aware, and the whole population does not like being probed, and dragged deeper into this misery.

We had a president behave like a mental patient,
a prime minister of behaving like a school kid who does not know anything about the economy,
had a hoax perpetrated by a child who wanted to be the Deputy Prime Minister in order to seem important,
had changes of ministers, secretaries of state, but they are all the same.

This was the year that all the excuses served to attack the 9 million people in this country,
people who only have the responsibility of 15% of the public debt, an irony.

Because banks, together with their agents in the state, are the holders of more than 83% of this highly acclaimed public debt, which is allegedly incurred by the Portuguese people.

Lies, lies, lies behind, put people into a vain hope that the summer never materializes.

We see the budgets of Parliament are increased only to members and other officials, criminals and mobsters in the House that is seen as untouchable.

We see an increase in government debt because the entire Portuguese banks are telling them to delete all who follow the rules of the European Union, despite its agents placed in politics who signed the documents of the European Union to maintain an economy based on debt where the winners are always the same, and we quote.

Banco de Portugal.
Banco Espírito Santo.
Portuguese Investment Bank.
Millennium BCP.
CGD.
Caixa Económica Montepio General.
Banif Investment Bank.
Banco BIC of Angola.
Continent.
Pingo Doce.
Jumbo.
Intermarket.

All this gained, and continue to contribute to the misery of all Portuguese,
in a nutshell, anonymously, in the coming days, will be placed on the Internet in the form of what we call "leakage" of various organizations that documents adhere to their computer networks, and we will prove it, they have directly contributed to the decline of country and a people that deserves to be independent and free from criminals and gangsters in power.

To those who defend criminals in PF, SIS, PJ, PSP power.

You can start researching now, we want to laugh even more of you and all those in power.

You are also the shame of this country.

We Are Anonymous.
We Are Legion.
We Do Not Forgive.
We Do Not Forget.
United As One.
Divided By Zero.
Expect Us.

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facebook Anonymous PORTUGAL (https://www.facebook.com/AnonymousPORTUGAL)

Thanking You in advance,

With great respect,

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Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)

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telling the truth is considered a revolutionary act."

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on December 03, 2014, 07:27:18 PM
So...

Does anonymoose do paid advertizing?

 ::)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 03, 2014, 09:34:22 PM
Not sure as to Whom that last comment was directed at,
but We will take a shot at the always moving target.    ;)

The Advertising/Marketing Department (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum1/index.php?topic=3779.0) is still awaiting Your Announcement
that 'the site is now able to accept advertising,'
which would make the previous comment moot.   :P

BTW, We prefer Tahiti Joe's Polynesian Hot Sauce on our geckos    ;D

BACK TO TOPIC


Perhaps the following will interest our members in the UK.

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(23 December 2014) #OpSafeWinter - Turning Piccadilly Gardens Manchester Into An Emergency Food/Clothing/Bedding Bank (https://www.facebook.com/events/621270481317189/?ref=22)

On 23rd December Anonymous members and the general public wanting to help the homeless are invited to bring as many supplies as they can for the homeless of Manchester to survive this winter.

Christmas is supposed to be a time of charity; giving and new beginnings... So let's all come together as ONE and help people who are less fortunate at this time by sourcing items we no longer use that can benefit others..

If everyone was to bring a rucksack filled with goodies like toiletries; food; gloves; hat; sleeping bag; tent etc then we'd have a good chance of helping those who have to live on the streets... SURVIVE at least one more night. Far too many people are dying on our streets of hypothermia; septicaemia and pneumonia whilst their immune systems are 'down'.

If you're a landlord with properties available in Manchester then please come down too with the housing benefit forms & keys... Because there's plenty of potential tenants in Manchester City Centre who just need a chance.

The same applies to any employers who are willing to give a homeless person a job.

If we have any hairdressers/ barbers that would be willing to offer hair-cuts too, please comment on the event page and simply turn up on the 23rd in Manchester Piccadilly.

Everyone is welcome and we'll be contacting all of the other outreach/grassroots operations currently working in Manchester to help out too.

Tuesday, December 23 at 12:00pm in UTC
Picadilly Gardens Manchester in Manchester, United Kingdom


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(29) Help The Homeless - Christmas Feast - 24th December 2014 (https://www.facebook.com/events/947019941979247/?ref_newsfeed_story_type=regular)

This year is our first ever Christmas helping the homeless of East Lancashire so we're going to offer them a feast of traditional festive delights. Whether you're religious or not, Christmas is a time of being kind and charitable... And forgiving.

Let's spread that message and come together to help those who are less fortunate. We're going to offer a whole array of hot food, a small 'present' and support during what can be a very lonely time for some.

If you would like to help with this event or would like to donate to make it a huge success then please contact Wesley the Project Manager via wesley@helpthehomeless.org.uk or direct via 07722525101


Wednesday, December 24, 2014 at 1:00pm in UTC
Blackburn Fire Station (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Blackburn-Fire-Station/158342320865355)
Byrom St, BB2 2LE Blackburn


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(29) The Help The Homeless BIG SLEEP OUT - Blackburn & Darwen (https://www.facebook.com/events/1476965412576154/?unit_ref=related_events)

Jan 31, 2015 at 12:00pm to Feb 1, 2015 at 12:00pm in UTC

To raise awareness on homelessness in Blackburn, Darwen and surrounding areas we're organizing a sponsored BIG SLEEP OUT to raise funds for a catering trailer to act as a mobile soup kitchen which will operate around Lancashire in the winter months and beyond...

We will be sleeping out on Canterbury Street carpark where we facilitate our outreach grassroots initiative each Wednesday night feeding the homeless.

Everyone is welcome to this event and sponsorship forms will be available from the start of November from Pauline Lau who is the Blackburn Help The Homeless: East Lancs manager there... ?

Can You last a night on the streets?
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on December 04, 2014, 07:20:36 AM
This ties in with previous communication in this thread from esteemed members in Portugal… enjoy.    ;)
Please let us know what You think of this.
I agree that 2013 was a bad year, but what did Anonymous did about all that?
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: petrus4 on December 04, 2014, 10:08:59 AM
This year is our first ever Christmas helping the homeless of East Lancashire so we're going to offer them a feast of traditional festive delights. Whether you're religious or not, Christmas is a time of being kind and charitable... And forgiving.

Let's spread that message and come together to help those who are less fortunate. We're going to offer a whole array of hot food, a small 'present' and support during what can be a very lonely time for some.

Regardless of my previous concerns about the group's having been hijacked, this is genuinely an admirable thing.

Before you begin your meal, feed someone else. Traditionally in India a five-fold offering is made: to the sacred fire, a cow, a crow, a dog,  and another human being, who might be a child, a beggar, or anyone else outside one's own family. This is a practical thanks to Nature, a feeding of some of Her children in gratitude to Her for providing you some of Her other children as sacrifices for consumption. And, it is another way of controlling Ahamkara (egoism), an admission that the food is intended not for mere self-gratification but for the greater good of all beings. Feed anyone - a pet, a plant, a neighbour, a stranger- so you can experience a little of Nature's joy, the joy which a mother feels when she feeds her children and watches them grow and develop in consequence.
        -- Hinduism.co.za (http://hinduism.co.za/food.htm#Religion%20of%20compassion)

If only society as a whole were still governed by the dharma; but the scriptures themselves have also warned of these days.

Utathya said: If the deity of the clouds pours rain seasonably and the king acts virtuously, the prosperity that ensues maintain the subjects in felicity. That washerman who does not know how to wash away the filth of cloth without taking away its dye, is very unskilful in his profession. That person among Brahmanas or Kshatriyas or Vaisyas who, having fallen away from the proper duties of his order, has become a Sudra, is truly to be compared to such a washerman. Menial service attaches to the Sudra; agriculture to the Vaisya; the science of chastisement (punishment) to the kshatriya, and Brahmacharya, penances, Mantras, and truth, attach to the Brahmana. That Kshatriya who knows how to correct the faults of behaviour of the other orders and to wash them clean like a washerman is really their father and deserves to be their king.

The respective ages called Krita, Treta, Dwapara and Kali, O bull of Bharata’s race, are all dependent on the conduct of the king. It is the king who constitutes the age.

[Note: The sense of the verse is that it is the king who causes the age, for if he acts righteously, the age that sets in is Krita; if, on the other hand, he acts sinfully, he causes the Kali age to set in; etc. etc.]

The four orders (Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaisyas and Sudras), the Vedas and the duties in respect of the four modes of life (Brahmacharya, Grihastha, Vanprastha and Sannyasa), all become confused and weakened when the king becomes heedless. The three kinds of fire, the three Vedas (Rik, Sama, Yajur), and sacrifices with dakshina, all become lost when the king becomes heedless. The king is the creator of all creatures, and the king is their destroyer. That king who is of righteous soul is regarded as the creator, while he that is sinful is regarded as the destroyer. The king’s wives, sons, kinsmen, and friends, all become unhappy and grieve when the king becomes heedless. Elephants and steeds and kine (cows) and camels and mules and asses and other animals all lose their vigour when the king becomes unrighteous.

It is said, O Mandhatri, that the Creator created Power (represented by the king) for the object of protecting Weakness. Weakness is, indeed, a great being, for everything depends upon it.

[Note: He who protects weakness wins heaven, while he who persecutes it goes to hell. Weakness, thus, is a great thing. Its power, so to say, is such that it can lead to heaven and hell everyone with whom it may come into contact.]

All creatures worship a king. All creatures are the children of the king. If, therefore, O monarch, the king becomes unrighteous, all creatures come to grief. The eyes of the weak, of the Muni, and of the snake of virulent poison, should be regarded as unbearable. Do not, therefore, come into (hostile) contact with the weak. Thou shouldst regard the weak as always subject to humiliation. Take care that the eyes of the Weak do not burn thee with thy kinsmen. In a race scorched by the eyes of the weak, no children take birth. Such eyes burn the race to its very roots. Do not, therefore, come into (hostile) contact with the weak. Weakness is more powerful than even the greatest Power, for that power which is scorched by Weakness becomes totally exterminated. If a person, who has been humiliated or struck, fails, while shrieking for assistance, to obtain a protector, divine chastisement overtakes the king and brings about his destruction. Do not, O sire, while in enjoyment of Power, take wealth from those that are Weak. Take care that the eyes of the Weak do not burn thee like a blazing fire. The tears shed by weeping men afflicted with falsehood slay the children and animals of those that have uttered those falsehoods. Like a cow a sinful act perpetrated does not produce immediate fruits.

[Note; the keeper of the cow has to wait, till it calves, for milk.]

If the fruit is not seen in the perpetrator himself, it is seen in his son or in his son’s son, or daughter’s son. When a weak person fails to find a rescuer, the great rod of divine chastisement falls (upon the king). When all subjects of a king (are obliged by distress to) live like Brahmanas, by mendicancy, such mendicancy brings destruction upon the king. When all the officers of the king posted in the provinces unite together and act with injustice, the king is then said to bring about a state of unmixed evil upon his kingdom. When the officers of the king extort wealth, by unjust means or acting from lust or avarice, from persons piteously soliciting mercy, a great destruction then is sure to overtake the king. A mighty tree, first starting into life, grows into large proportions. Numerous creatures then come and seek its shelter. When, however, it is cut down or consumed in a conflagration, those that had recourse to it for shelter all become homeless.

[Note: The commentator states: The sense is, I suppose, that if the king be overtaken by destruction, his officers also do not escape.]

When the residents of a kingdom perform acts of righteousness and all religious rites, and applaud the good qualities of the king, the latter reaps an accession of affluence. When, on the other hand, the residents, moved by ignorance, abandon righteousness and act unrighteously, the king becomes overtaken by misery. When sinful men whose acts are known are allowed to move among the righteous (without being punished for their misdeeds), Kali then overtakes the rulers of those realms. When the king causes chastisement to overtake all wicked people, the kingdom thrives in prosperity. The kingdom of that king certainly thrives who pays proper honours to his ministers and employs them in measures of policy and in battles. Such a ruler enjoys the wide earth forever.


I have found the words of the Mahabharata, and of Hinduism more generally, directly provable via my own experience, even moreso than the Bible.  You can see for yourselves how the above applies to the present day.  The scripture diagnoses the problem, and it offers the cure.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Somamech on December 04, 2014, 11:02:24 AM
What I don't get with _anon_ is that they need to wear Mask's, Yet Sea Shepherd do not need a mask ?

It would seem to me that Sea Shepherd have been more effective in lobbying than Anon. 

I only use SS as an example because they are well known.  In reality there are many grassroot organisations effecting change that we don't hear about who do not need to hide their face.   8)

ANON don't even receive MSM now.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 04, 2014, 03:44:18 PM
I agree that 2013 was a bad year, but what did Anonymous did about all that?
Always asking what Others are doing to make this a better world.

What did You did (sic) about all that?   :P
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on December 04, 2014, 05:10:56 PM
Always asking what Others are doing to make this a better world.
That's because I don't know, and when I don't know I ask, as I find it better than just assume. :)

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What did You did (sic) about all that?   :P
Me? Nothing special, but I don't talk as if I did something important, I just spent more than one year receiving half of my salary to see if we could save the company where I work.

PS: I suppose that (sic) means it should have been "what did Anonymous do", right?  :)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 04, 2014, 07:29:29 PM
...I just spent more than one year receiving half of my salary to see if we could save the company where I work.

Quite laudable, to be sure.
Thank You for Your honorable service.   8)

I just spent the last three years (no complaints here, BTW :-*)
(and approaching $25K) supporting a heartfelt cause, also,
as that is what honor is all about.'   ;)

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PS: I suppose that (sic) means it should have been "what did Anonymous do", right?  :)

Just bustin' Your chops, as Sarge would say, My Friend.   ;)

OK, 'Tis the Season, so…truce.

I just wanted to let you know—the things you do for our dearly beloved
Pegasus do not go unnoticed and I/We appreciate your dedication,
- and photo expertise, and I know others do too.    ;D

You are not only a valued member of this group, you’re a respected friend.

With great respect,

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Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)

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Happening NOW...
Marchers in NYC are coordinating via social media to
join up various groups of protestors into one BIG mass of humanity…
now going north up Broadway…NOT going to Union Square…
WORD…converge in Times Square…

STAY TUNED (http://new.livestream.com/JamesFromTheInternet/events/3634900?origin=stream_live&mixpanel_id=a381741fbae81-0a8ec8c75-43681f0a-2ee000-a381741fbbf0f&acc_id=6016844&medium=email)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on December 05, 2014, 04:53:29 AM
I just spent the last three years (no complaints here, BTW :-*)
(and approaching $25K) supporting a heartfelt cause, also,
as that is what honor is all about.'   ;)
As we say in Portugal, if I had $25K I would get married, that's almost my income in these last three years.  :P

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Just bustin' Your chops, as Sarge would say, My Friend.   ;)
As I have on my signature in another forum, I like to be corrected when I'm wrong, as that's the best way of learning. :)

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OK, 'Tis the Season, so…truce.
Truce? I didn't know that we were at war. ;)

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I just wanted to let you know—the things you do for our dearly beloved
Pegasus do not go unnoticed and I/We appreciate your dedication,
- and photo expertise, and I know others do too.    ;D

You are not only a valued member of this group, you’re a respected friend.
Thanks. :)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on December 05, 2014, 08:34:10 AM
There's been some heated opinions of late, that's to be sure.
Which I suppose represent different emotional and mental states of mind.
Don't know about everyone else, but I've found myself extremely frustrated, and slightly passive aggressive.

My own development has taken me to a level where the eye's do not just look, but now they also see. We are living in an extremely false reality, and yet to partake we must in order to 'survive'.

I just bear in mind this:

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society".

I love how diplomatic you two are, certainly something to aspire to.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 06, 2014, 09:17:00 PM
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Be The Change You Want To See - AnonHQ (http://anonhq.com/change-want-see/)
December 5th, 2014 | by hqanon
Written by: AnonymousWorldWideNews (https://www.facebook.com/AnonymousWorldWideNews)
 
The only authority that can make a difference is you.

Not the police. Not the military. Not so-called grand juries.

Only you!

Do not look to the plutocratic mandarins for assistance, or expect anything but vaudevillian smoke and mirrors from the billion-dollar corporate circus that’s rampaging across the globe like a retarded elephant on steroids with nuclear weapons strapped to its back flinging Monsanto seeds.

The local killers want us distracted by foreign killers so they can rob us blind and keep us under control. It’s our responsibility to wake up to this fact and to at least attempt to put a stop to it.

Like Martin Luther King, Jr. said, “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.”


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(image courtesy anonymous)


It’s time to end the blind march of the living dead, and to begin instead the wide-awake journey of being truly alive.

It’s time to end the rank and file of willful ignorance. This means questioning the status quo and the people who blindly uphold it. This means holding the power-that-be accountable for their actions.

This is our call to adventure.

Mother Nature is screaming at us using a language older than words.

It echoes in our bones. It resonates in our souls. We can all feel it.

Some of us are confused by it, and we are suffering from cognitive dissonance, but she is still there singing her harsh Truth.

And it is high time we listened. It’s time we made some noise. It is time her voice became our voice. It is time to replace “their unhealthy unsustainable way” with “our healthy sustainable way.”

“The secret of freedom lies in educating people,” wrote Maximillian Robespierre, “whereas the secret in tyranny is in keeping them ignorant.”

So ask yourself: Am I an agent of liberty, intent upon freeing and empowering people; or an agent of tyranny, intent upon keeping people suppressed and ignorant?

If it’s the latter, by all means keep the chain of obedience intact and keep people suppressed.
But if it’s the former, by all means break the chain of obedience and join us in educating people.

The war machine begins and ends with you either blindly obeying the vicious chain of obedience or having the courage to disobey when you feel the actions of the chain of obedience are immoral.

It won’t be easy. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2JvZvPN-hA&spfreload=10)

Hell, it will probably be the hardest thing you will ever do, and you may have to face “vilification and disgrace” because of it, but sometimes that’s the price you have to pay for being a moral agent in an immoral world.

That’s the price you pay for courage.

That’s the price you pay for liberty (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXg7vfrkmnE&spfreload=10).

At the end of the day, if you still feel like it’s all for naught and that you cannot possibly make a difference, consider the words of Thomas Edison, “When you have exhausted all possibilities, remember this: You haven’t.”

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on December 07, 2014, 08:59:30 AM
“The secret of freedom lies in educating people,” wrote Maximillian Robespierre, “whereas the secret in tyranny is in keeping them ignorant.”
I agree with that, and I have pointed to that several times. :)

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It’s time to end the rank and file of willful ignorance. This means questioning the status quo and the people who blindly uphold it. This means holding the power-that-be accountable for their actions.
I also agree with this, and that's one of the reasons I am not a follower of Anonymous, as it looks like an easy way of replacing a status quo with a different status quo.

Fight ignorance and question the status quo? By all means, but with someone that doesn't hide his face behind a mask.

Now, after all that talk, what are Anonymous going to do to "educate the people"? More YouTube videos?
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 07, 2014, 11:44:13 AM
Fight ignorance and question the status quo?
By all means, but with someone that doesn't hide his face behind a mask.

Still with the mask thing.    ::)
You don't wear a mask, so just what are You doing to fight ignorance and question the status quo?

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Now, after all that talk, what are Anonymous going to do to "educate the people"? More YouTube videos?

Really glad You asked.

[youtube]vnJc5jGmocc[/youtube]


Anonymous: Intro Freedom Fighters For Free Speech HD - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJc5jGmocc)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/how_will_you_spend_Xmas.jpg) (https://www.facebook.com/homesnotspikes)

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tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on December 07, 2014, 12:29:09 PM
Still with the mask thing.    ::)
Yes, I don't like masks, never did, since I was a small child. The only time I used a costume in Carnival was because my parents forced me to do it. :)

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You don't wear a mask, so just what are You doing to fight ignorance and question the status quo?
I try to spread knowledge of all the things that may be useful to everybody I contact, but those are very few, as I was never a person that likes to be surrounded by other people, so I don't know many people in real life.

I try to show to people that knowledge is more important than the right to have guns or using drugs (for example), but most people in forums like this one are too occupied seeing things from their own personal point of view and ignore what other people tell them when it does not follow their own ideas.

I try to show that one million people on the street is not the same thing as a revolution, that to make a real revolution they have to have a working plan that applies to everyone, including those not involved in the organisation and actions of that possible revolution, but most people are too used to the Hollywood version of revolutions and appear to think that they just have to wish for one for it to happen.

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[youtube]vnJc5jGmocc[/youtube]
What, useless videos? Those don't help.  :P
Have you noticed that most Anonymous videos use the word "we"? "We" this, "we" that, that's not helping fight ignorance, as it doesn't help anyone learn any thing except about Anonymous.

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(There's a space missing between "of" and "homeless" on the fourth line)
That looks like a good idea, but it reminds me of that saying: give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

Wouldn't it be better if they tried to give people the information to help them avoid being in those conditions/situations or get out of those situations? Helping people look their best for job interviews is nice, but why not go the next step and help people how to behave in a job interview? Why not teach people things they might need on a job interview? Or even better, why not train people about their jobs to give them better chances of getting one or not losing what they have?

For example, instead of just saying that there will be "a huge epidemic of homeless people" because of Universal Credit, why not explain what people should do to avoid being a victim of that Universal Credit (whatever it may be)? I don't know about the UK, but here in Portugal there's usual more than one way of doing things and there are several ways for people getting help from the Social Security or some other government funds, but those are usually hidden from the public, only the people that work with them know they exist, and they usually exist so the government can point to them in case of need, but they keep them hidden so few people know about them.

Wouldn't it better to know how to avoid having their home taken by the bank instead of having to fight the bank?

That's the kind of knowledge that people need to have, the kind of knowledge that an organisation like Anonymous could spread, as, because of the anonymity of their members, they can have members in those organisations looking for the (more than likely to exist) loopholes in the bureaucracy.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on December 07, 2014, 12:31:24 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum1/avs/avatar_17_1415233592.png)  <-----MASK


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum1/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=547;type=avatar)  <-----NOT a MASK

 ::)


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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on December 07, 2014, 12:51:18 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum1/avs/avatar_17_1415233592.png)  <-----MASK
No, a mask is something you use to hide your real face, not something you use to represent yourself in a virtual place like a forum.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on December 09, 2014, 05:58:39 AM

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum1/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=547;type=avatar)  <-----NOT a MASK

 ::)


Well, it is a sort of mask.. You are living in the realm of fantasy  :P
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 11, 2014, 06:57:21 PM
We are going to post this here to utilize the attention already acquired by this thread.

What say You, our UK members?


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Published on Dec 1, 2014
EXPECT US.

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: petrus4 on December 11, 2014, 11:11:34 PM
Yes, I don't like masks, never did, since I was a small child. The only time I used a costume in Carnival was because my parents forced me to do it. :)

A mask is a source of tremendous power, Armap.  An individual may well be able to do things with a mask on, that he would never be willing to do with it off; but that does not necessarily mean negative things, either.  It can mean tremendously positive ones.  My time as Mirshalak, and also my offline experience under the mask with Project Chanology, represent probably the two most empowering periods of my life, so far.

[youtube]tkAs4ZzG2zk[/youtube]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkAs4ZzG2zk

The powers that be would like to ban and outlaw the Guy Fawkes mask, for exactly the same reason that they attempt to enforce real names on social media accounts, and Capitus Diminutio Maxima via our utility bills and credit cards.  There is nothing more fundamental than identity, and therefore no greater way that they can disempower us, than by confiscating our ability to change it.

Apart from anything else, anonymity when committing altruistic acts, allows for complete purity of motive.  There is no possible way that it can be claimed that a person is only doing something generous for narcissistic supply, if nobody ever knows who you are while you commit said actions.

I will agree that Anonymous tend to have a grossly over-inflated opinion of the amount of real good that they can do; but then again, I know that their own response to that, would be to say that at least they are trying.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on December 12, 2014, 04:32:15 AM
A mask is a source of tremendous power, Armap.  An individual may well be able to do things with a mask on, that he would never be willing to do with it off; but that does not necessarily mean negative things, either.

Well there is THIS mask

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/wuherdb/JasonMask2.jpg)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on December 12, 2014, 04:33:32 AM
And there is THIS mask

(http://www.spirithalloween.com/images/spirit/products/interactivezoom/processed/07071319.interactive.a.jpg)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on December 12, 2014, 04:38:22 AM
Well, it is a sort of mask.. You are living in the realm of fantasy  :P

No Zorgon is my real identity... I get mail from government offices and delivered by the post office to King Zorgon :P

And this is my Duke  Knighting the Governor of Nevada Kenny Guinn...

(http://landoflegendslv.com/07foreign/01ov/images/Events/Forest1999/Knight/011.jpg)

So how is it a Fantasy?

 8)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on December 12, 2014, 06:10:15 AM
Both of those masks were quite effective for their desired outcome...

No comment on the rest.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on December 12, 2014, 06:58:35 AM
A mask is a source of tremendous power, Armap.  An individual may well be able to do things with a mask on, that he would never be willing to do with it off; but that does not necessarily mean negative things, either.
I agree, and that's why I don't like them, as if people with masks act in a way that is not the way they act without them then it means that they are not being themselves when they are not wearing the mask and are lying to the rest of the world.

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The powers that be would like to ban and outlaw the Guy Fawkes mask, for exactly the same reason that they attempt to enforce real names on social media accounts, and Capitus Diminutio Maxima via our utility bills and credit cards.  There is nothing more fundamental than identity, and therefore no greater way that they can disempower us, than by confiscating our ability to change it.
I doubt it, they are probably selling them to those that think that a mask acts like an invisibility cloak.  :P

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Apart from anything else, anonymity when committing altruistic acts, allows for complete purity of motive.  There is no possible way that it can be claimed that a person is only doing something generous for narcissistic supply, if nobody ever knows who you are while you commit said actions.
And that's why I think Anonymous actions of pointing to "how good they are" are more a publicity stunt than anything else. People have been doing positive and altruistic acts for thousands of years with no need for mask.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 14, 2014, 08:40:04 PM
And now, for something completely different:

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66 year old British Rock Guitarist jailed for taking part in 2010 Anonymous DDoS attack (http://www.techworm.net/2014/12/66-year-old-british-rock-guitarist-jailed-taking-part-2010-anonymous-ddos-attack.html)

Geoffrey ‘Jake’ Commander, a 66-years-old British rock guitarist and part of the Electric Light Band Orchestra (ELO), has been given a a jail sentence for joining the popular online hacktivists collective ‘Anonymous’ and taking part in the famous Operation Payback campaign in 2010 which brought down many financial websites.

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Washington Times quotes (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/7/anonymous-hacking-attack-lands-british-rock-guitar/) that, “Geoffrey “Jake” Commander, a rock guitarist who has played with the Electric Light Orchestra (http://interceder.net/latest_news/Electric-Light-Orchestra), George Harrison and Elton John, among others, walked unnoticed through the halls of the U.S. District Court in Alexandria early Friday afternoon”.

The sentence was given by the Alexandria District Court on Friday following the  admission of guilty plea by ‘Jake.’  The ELO guitarist admitted to his involvement in the Anonymous operation at the hearing before the sentence was pronounced.

He also promised the Judge never to return to the United States after his release.

The authorities said that he could serve only ten days in prison, ‘Jake’ was earlier facing a likely prison sentence of ten years jail time in a federal prison.

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Operation Payback
The Anonymous campaign called Operation Payback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Payback) was a coordinated attack against the opponents of Internet piracy. Anonymous started the Operation Payback started as retaliation to DDoS attacks on torrent sites by anti piracy lobby.

The Anonymous then allegedly took down many anti-piracy websites all over the world through coordinated DDoS attacks.  After Wikileaks published the leaks of Diplomatic cables in December 2010, some banks withdrew banking facilities given to Wikileaks.

Anonymous then turned the Operation Payback against such banks which had withdrawn the banking facilities.

Another View:

Operation Payback, also known as Operation: Payback Is A Bitch, is a series of DDoS attacks organized by users of 4chan’s /b/ (random) board that started on September 17th, 2010 against major entertainment industry websites such as the websites for the Recording Industry Association of America and the Motion Picture Association of America. The attacks began September 19th, 2010, and have continued unabated for over one month.

Beginning on December 7th, 2010, a series of DDos assaults led by the Anonymous under Operation Avenge Assange successfully brought down Paypal, Visa and MasterCard’s websites in retaliation against their decision to suspend all transactions with WikiLeaks, reportedly under political pressure from the U.S. State Department.

Some of the other targeted sites included Amazon, Swiss Postal Finance as well as a number of U.S. government websites and various cyber security contractor firms.

The plan for Operation Payback was initially made by the users of 4chan (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/anonymous) as a response to the DDoS attacks carried out by Indian company Aiplex Software (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiplex_Software), who were hired by major media companies to carry out the said DDoS attacks against music and movie torrent-sharing sites, most notably The Pirate Bay.

After learning of the DDoS on the torrent communities, 4chan users began planning their own retaliatory attacks on media websites, with the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) and Aiplex as their first targets.


Geoffrey’s Role in Operation Payback
Reports indicate that Geoffery took part in the IRC chat administered by members of Anonymous collective and joined the 1000 members of Anonymous to launch a DDoS attack against MasterCard.

He was alleged part of the Operation Payback for over 3 hours in which he contributed to the amplification of the attack by using the LOIC (low-orbit Ion cannon) tool on his PC.

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MasterCard had reported later that it recorded a $1 million loss due to this DDoS attack.

Geoffery was arrested in 2013 after he returned to the United States with his family, 3 years after the attack.


According to sentencing papers submitted to the court, Commander had a long career in rock music, and even set up a White House tour for ELO in 1978. He later became a writer and expert on computers, but work dried up in recent years.

The chain of events that put him in front of Judge O'Grady began Dec. 10, 2010.

He was online at his home in New Hampshire when he entered an Anonymous chat room (http://site.anonnet.org/webirc/), seeing more than 1,000 others there too. From there, he clicked on an “LOIC” tool (http://pastehtml.com/view/1c8i33u.html), which stands for “low orbit ion cannon.”

Essentially, it’s a stress test tool that can be used by hackers to fire off a huge amount of traffic to a target site, resulting in servers crashing in what’s known as a DDoS, or distributed denial of service attack.

Commander clicked on one of these links. He never tried to argue that he didn’t know that what he was doing was wrong.

He said in court that he considered it a form of “protest.”

He said he thought that banks had “brought the country to its knees.”

After clicking on the link, Commander’s computer targeted MasterCard’s website, which lost more than $1 million in the attacks by Commander and others. He quit after three hours.

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The idea behind LOIC is that it can allow you to participate in attacks even if you've no clue how to hack. Just download a copy of LOIC (http://pastehtml.com/view/1c8i33u.html) (available for Windows, Mac, and Linux!), punch in the target information like a URL or an IP address and zap.

...that can be controlled by a central user...

The Windows version of LOIC has a "Hivemind" feature that lets you point your copy at an Internet Relay Chat server, allowing someone else—say, the Anon Admins behind Operation Payback (http://gizmodo.com/5709630/what-is-loic), the campaign that is currently striking out against Visa, Mastercard, and other financial organizations in retaliation for their decision to stop doing business with Wikileaks—to control at what site all connected LOIC clients are aimed. And because it takes thousands of LOICs all pointed at a single site to make a real impact, letting a central administrator press the big button of website destruction makes the whole network more effective.

Years passed, presumably with little thought of the incident.

He and his wife and son had left their home in New Hampshire and moved back to England.

But they came back to the U.S. last fall, where Commander was arrested, placed on pretrial release and had to surrender his British passport.   :P


You, too, can be a rock star (http://www.interop.com/lasvegas/?_mc=sbx_iw_le_ilv_sbx1&cid=smartbox_techweb_session_16.500042)!

Have you got $67 burning a hole in your pocket?

Then you can rent a botnet (http://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities-and-threats/cheap-botnets-a-boon-to-hackers/d/d-id/1089516?ngAction=register) for 24 hours to launch distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks, sell fake antivirus software and relay spam to unsuspecting email users via millions of compromised -- aka zombie -- PCs.

Or if you only need an hour, that’s just $9.   :P


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We are Anonymous
We are Legion
We do not Forgive
We do not Forget
United as One
Divided by Zero
We are Uniting Humanity
We Are You
Expect Us



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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on December 14, 2014, 10:18:23 PM
Well here is an idea...

If Anon wants to hack the Cabal...

If Anon wants to help the poor...

Then WHY NOT hack the Federal Reserve....

... and pay every man woman and child in the USA $35,000 for Christmas?

After all that is only $9 Trillion Dollars... the same amount they lost track of in 2009...

So  THEY WON'T MISS IT :P

Just a thought  8)


I bet THAT would get them support :P


Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 16, 2014, 11:55:45 AM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/plumpud_expectus.jpg) (http://thecryptosphere.com/2014/09/26/anonymous-re-launches-opsafewinter-for-the-homeless/)


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East-Coast Outreach on Twitter: "Busy night out on the streets tonight, over 75 fed, lots of coats and sleeping bags gone out #OpSafeWinter" (https://twitter.com/EastOutreach/status/543899870168637441/photo/1)


#OpSafeWinter: Generosity Goes Viral
by free • December 6, 2014

#OpSafeWinter: Generosity Goes Viral (https://opsafewinter.org/?p=1571)

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It’s the time of year when we are most often asked to “think of the less fortunate.”

But what if we felt empowered to take action that might actually help them?

#OpSafeWinter (http://opsafewinter.org), inspired by the lessons learned at Occupy Wall Street (http://occupywallst.org) and from teachers like Sharon Salzberg (http://www.sharonsalzberg.com) and Bob Thurman (http://bobthurman.com), aims to do just that by providing a decentralized network of support for the homeless.

Instead of waiting around for relief organizations, is it possible for us to involve ourselves in direct mutual aid (http://occupywallstreet.net/story/year-two-mutual-aid), thus revealing the interdependent nature of suffering and compassion?


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Inspired by the real-world experience and skill sets developed on the ground during Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Sandy (http://occupysandy.net), folks involved in these two previous relief missions came together to address another problem threatening more and more people during the economic crisis: homelessness.

An #OpSafeWinternyc (https://www.facebook.com/OpSafeWinterNYC) contact describes mutual aid as a two-way street. Not only do the homeless and hungry receive relief in the form of coats and food, but those doing the relief are developing contacts and getting the chance to use their skills. Everyone gets an expanded sense of what’s possible by learning to interact with their neighbors, homeless or not, in an informal setting.

From Sharon:

Lovingkindness

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Lovingkindness is a quality of friendship. Lovingkindness meditation is the cultivation of  a steady, unconditional sense of connection that touches all beings without exception, including ourselves. The quality of lovingkindness is associated with three other qualities: Compassion, Sympathetic Joy & Equanimity.

Compassion is our caring human response to suffering.

A compassionate heart is non-judgmental and recognizes all suffering—our own and that of others—as deserving of tenderness.

Sympathetic Joy is the realization that others’ happiness is inseparable from our own. We rejoice in the joy of others and are not threatened by another’s success.

Equanimity is the spacious stillness of mind that provides the ground for the boundless nature of the other three qualities. This radiant calm enables us to ride the waves of our experience without getting lost in our reactions.



#OpSafeWinter is different from traditional relief organizations in that it’s a horizontal, decentralized network. Anyone who thinks up a mission that might help the homeless can feel empowered to do so, and the network is a tool to connect those in need with those who can provide.

There are people working to document and skill-share online in major cities across not only the US but across the globe as well. It’s also different from a consciousness raising campaign that merely increases awareness of a problem and possibly inspires people to donate money.



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#OpSafeWinter takes awareness and builds on it with action.

The movement makes use of direct aid to the homeless rather than relying on intermediaries, a technique we saw in the days after Hurricane Sandy when people refused to wait for the lagging and incomplete support of the Red Cross or FEMA.

The process does one better than merely highlighting the homeless problem across the globe, but also builds a resource network of donated food, blankets, and clothing, thus stepping in with a safety net where the city and federal government has dropped the ball.

This horizontal network emerged not only from the practical on-the-ground experience of the Occupy community and decentralized online tactics like Anonymous, but also drew inspiration from teachers like IDP (http://theidproject.org) Lineage Mentor Sharon Salzberg and Buddhist scholar Robert Thurman.

Generosity is the heart of #OpSafeWinter, and it hopes to “inspire or incite people to look at their relationship with others through service to those on the streets.”

The open set of tools provided
by the #OpSafeWinter hashtag
succeed in amplifying compassionate intentions.



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/homeless_vet.jpg) (http://www.facebook.com/OpSafeWinterNYC)


This method breaks down the self/other boundary so often seen in relief organizations where I, a person of means, can give my time or money to help the amorphous suffering other. By breaking down this binary, #OpSafeWinter exposes the interdependence of suffering and provides tools for mutual aid.

We are, in effect, helping each other.

If you’re interested in being involved in #OpSafeWinter, we recommend finding out if people are already active in your city and following them on Facebook and Twitter.

For New Yorkers, @opsafewinternyc is the twitter handle where you can find out about actions, donations, and suggested tools and missions in alleviating the suffering of those most vulnerable during the winter months. You are encouraged to act on your compassion with your unique skills and forms of contribution.

Links to find out more about #OpSafeWinter & keep up with local actions:
http://opsafewinter.org/
http://www.facebook.com/OpSafeWinterNYC
http://twitter.com/OpSafeWinter

Read more: http://www.theidproject.org/blog/caroline-contillo/2013/12/30/opsafewinter-generosity-goes-viral

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: petrus4 on December 16, 2014, 06:32:23 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/anon_battles_with_honor.jpg)

While this is inspiring, Anon made a rather unusual choice of pop cultural icon, to inspire compassion towards the homeless.  Darth Vader hardly fits that image.  I would have gone with Jean Luc Picard, personally.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui6g23ygov8 - Link added for Sinny. :D
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 01, 2015, 09:31:23 AM
Donning the Digital Mask: Anonymous (MIRROR) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxiMEhVACj8)

Published on May 31, 2015

Since its beginning on 4chan, the internet-driven collective Anonymous has emerged as one of the leading hacktivist movements, targeting high-profile institutions with fearless cyber attacks.

Looking into how this collective of online hackers went from pranksters to vigilantes for global justice lead to an intriguing discovery of unique qualities that form Anonymous.

A certain tonal element of Anonymous resonated with me and immediately translated into an exciting aesthetic I was eager to take on.

There is a mesmerizing and compelling, but also terrifying quality to the dynamic spread of a collective who’s story is being written with every new day and operation.

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Sinny on June 01, 2015, 05:07:04 PM
This is propaganda, and I think it's it's great - not the asteroid stuff, but this stuff.
It's a battle for minds these days, and we've got to be in it to win it.
That includes propagating to the masses.
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: larishira on July 03, 2015, 07:27:33 PM
As a regular member of  Anonymous's Study....by the way..its a very good way to study...no to attack...but how you can defend yourself...

I claim:  please....only 25 bucks to my account ... ok everything/nothing?
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: zorgon on July 04, 2015, 10:36:11 AM
I claim:  please....only 25 bucks to my account ... ok everything/nothing?

Now THAT is a good idea... If Anonymous hackers are so good... and want the support of "We the people...."  they should hack the big banks and distribute the loot to all the little people... a real Robin Hood type heist  and delete the records :D

Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 04, 2015, 06:02:24 PM
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Anonymous - Exposing UK Pedophilia Ring in #OpDeathEaters AnonHQ (http://anonhq.com/anonymous-exposing-uk-pedophilia-ring-opdeatheaters/)

Greetings world, We Are Anonymous.

The biggest story of our generation is unfolding in the UK to near complete silence in the international corporate media. The UK media that cover it at all depict it as a ‘sex scandal’ committed by ‘child lovers’.

What the UK media depicts as “child sex” has left children missing the lower half of their bodies.

These so-called ‘sex scandals’ involve children provided for torture as bait to blackmail political opponents in Northern Ireland.

The UK has open files on 200 missing boys from 1977 and 1983.

The investigation has so far involved a huge circle of UK establishment from media, politicians, police and intelligence, known to police as The Untouchables (http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5413/mp-paedophiles-were-untouchables-ex-special-branch-officer). There are international ties being ignored.

To the people of the UK, your ruling classes are preying on you.

Not just in the ways you always knew they were. Our friends in the UK, just like our friends in Gabon, have a political class that is torturing and murdering their children and mutilating their bodies. Unlike in Gabon, the UK media is following the direction of the Paedophile Information Exchange and telling you these people are child lovers who need understanding and tolerance.

They are telling you this is sex.

Who controls the words controls your thoughts.

This is not sex.

These people feed off the agony of others. They cause wars and destruction during their working hours and they torture and murder children as recreation.

These are not child lovers.

These are death eaters.

To the people of the world, this story is not limited to the UK.

Unlike us, death eaters have no borders. Human trafficking is the biggest criminal industry in the world. Death eaters have global networks.

Resistance is existence.


[youtube]jnzwk4fj1xc[/youtube]

Anonymous - Exposing UK Pedophilia Ring in #OpDeathEaters - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnzwk4fj1xc)


We are Anonymous.
We are everywhere.
We are legion.
We are those you have left without a home.
We are those you have murdered.
We are voiceless no more.
The world will change.
We will change it.
Tyrants of the World,
Expect Us!

Action
The CSA inquiry in the UK is an attempt to depict a powerful cult as a string of isolated incidents of “sex abuse”. The complicit UK media is running a huge propaganda campaign to conflate torture and murder with “paedophilia” and call for understanding of “paedophilia”.

This is not a group of sad paedophiles who need help and understanding. This is a torture and death cult with a powerful global human trafficking network.

We demand that torture and murder be called torture and murder, not sex.

This is an international cult and needs to be investigated as one, not simply as an endless series of isolated incidents confined to the UK. We call upon our comrades globally to help us investigate and demand an end to to the trafficking networks with arrests at the top not just the bottom.

We demand an end to human trafficking and abuse complicity worldwide.

'Lift the pedo-sadist / trafficking networks and the entire global oligarchy will be in the net.'

#OpDeathEaters #Anonymous

https://twitter.com/OpDeathEaters


Anonymous - #OpDeathEaters | February, Friday 13th - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kenFyPlESY)

Published on Jan 26, 2015

Press Release:
https://anoninsiders.net/anonymous-operation-death-eaters-press-release-2902/

Twitter: @OpDeathEaters

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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on January 03, 2017, 02:30:20 PM
This is quite a good history lesson and well-produced.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckaO3RDmzdE

Anonymous - Who Owns You?
OIL, FOOD, MEDICATION, EDUCATION, MIND CONTROL
Published on Dec 30, 2016
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: micjer on January 04, 2017, 08:45:57 AM
Very interesting video.  Thanks for posting Thor
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: thorfourwinds on January 04, 2017, 08:41:54 PM

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@ micjer

Greetings and thank you for your interest.

FYI, 'a portion' of the collective is taking a different tactic this year to provide additional critical information in these interesting times to aid in mankind's transition to a world where one's life is a reflection of the change they want to see; a life based on integrity, without envy, hate or greed.  8)

Sound familiar?   ;D

BTW, did you ever see this (http://allnewspipeline.com/Anonymous_OpSafeWinter_Re_Engaged.php)?

Co-owner Susan Duclos (ANP) was aware of some of my previous involvements, and asked me to come in as a 'guest editor' and write the 'definitive epistle' on our efforts regarding OpSafeWinter to anchor the season at AllNewsPipeline, a place Zorgon turned me on to.   8)

How's this for an opening statement?

Quote
We now stand at the crossroads in history, ready to embrace our destiny, where a small act of kindness multiplies fast and soon becomes a beacon of hope, unity, love and progress that lights there road for generations to come.

Operation Safe Winter remains focused on caring for human beings on multiple levels.


Anonymous #OpSafeWinter Re-Engaged 2015-2016 (http://allnewspipeline.com/Anonymous_OpSafeWinter_Re_Engaged.php)



I attempted to share that story here at Pegasus (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum2/index.php?topic=7616.0), only to garner the attention of that lovable troll,#####, who attacks anything it (gender neutral to protect the innocent) doesn't understand and feels "wrong" about, no matter what the subject is.  :P

Some days, we feel like Zorgon, who questions the validity of continuing this forum.   :P

Why make the effort?

This is why.


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tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)





Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on January 05, 2017, 04:43:37 PM
Quote
We now stand at the crossroads in history, ready to embrace our destiny, where a small act of kindness multiplies fast and soon becomes a beacon of hope, unity, love and progress that lights there road for generations to come.

Is that "there" the right word?
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Shasta56 on January 05, 2017, 06:30:52 PM
The intent and passion are clear, even if the grammar is a bit lacking.

Grumpy Shasta
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: The Seeker on January 05, 2017, 07:02:02 PM


Is that "there" the right word?
no,Armap, that should have been "Their" instead of there...people instead of a place...

Seeker
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: micjer on January 09, 2017, 07:43:28 AM
@Thor

I appreciate your work and posting in regards to helping the homeless.

It really hits home right now when we are in the middle of a deep freeze.  Can't imagine sleeping on the streets when it is so bitterly cold out. 

(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/morganb_zps52f1720c.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/morganb_zps52f1720c.jpg.html)

When I see a homeless person I think of the movie Bruce Almighty where the man in need turns out to be God.


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Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: Shasta56 on January 09, 2017, 08:35:49 PM
Denver cops finally stopped taking people's sleeping bags and blankets.  That didn't stop them from sleeping in doorways or under bridges.  It just made it a lot more dangerous for them.

Shasta
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: ArMaP on January 10, 2017, 02:24:47 AM
In Budapest, Hungary, now facing cold weather with temperatures much lower than usual, they had a simple idea: they placed coat-hangers in some places where people can leave coats. Anyone that needs them can take them. The idea has spread across the country, so people that still refuse to go to a shelter (most of the homeless do) can at least get better protection against the cold.

Hungary invites people to hang up coats for the homeless (http://www.euronews.com/2017/01/09/hungary-invites-people-to-hang-up-coats-for-the-homeless)
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: biggles on April 16, 2017, 04:07:35 PM
They have to have some sort of covering for their faces, or else they wouldn't be called Anonymous.

I, myself Love them. xxoo
Title: Re: We Are One - Million Mask Movement
Post by: biggles on April 17, 2017, 06:13:37 PM
I subscribe on yt to Anonymous channel; and did I tell you all that I LOVE YOU and respect you all beyond words.     :-*

Do you think you can break that sex trafficking animals in LV.  Maybe your hackers can obliterate them.

Another flag for Biggs from the agents on their pc's.     ::)

Maybe you can find an isolated place in the Nevada desert to put these a...holes and tie them up.

Who said I didn't have empathy.     ;)