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Title: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Sinny on April 17, 2013, 02:36:47 PM
Hey Guys, 

(Firstly - mods feel free to move to a more suitable forum if you wish - secondly apologies for the long post, I didn't originally intend it to be so aha)

As some of you are aware I've been studying some "fringe" "channelers" in the ET/UFO field.

Now I really don't want to keep spamming the site with the same old "mumbo Jumbo", however during in my course of researching the Doris 'Dhama' Ekkers Phoenix Journals - Commander Hatonn, I was (of course) also looking at criticism, refuters and debunkers.

I couldn't find many (or any) legitimate 'debunkers'  - as in actual fact 'Hatonn' (lets work on the premise he is REAL) addresses ALL debunkers WITHIN the journals - and having read 60% of ALL the Journals and *affiliates* I'm yet to find a claim that Hatonn hasn't ripped apart with COMMON SENSE.

Believe me or not - the proofs there to be read  :P

So anyway - As one who likes to prove MYSELF correct or incorrect - my investigations continue...

However, I've just hit a MAJOR BRICK WALL.

The only person who has claimed that Hatonn is fraud that I've YET investigated (thoroughly) myself is one called Richard T Miller of the Solar Cross Foundation.

I do not recall how I stumbled upon him, down the dark and murky alley ways of the internet, regarding old and forgotten web pages, but anyway - I found him.

Who is Richard T Miller?

Richard T Miller claims to have been in the Operations Room of Scott Air Force Base in Belleville, Illinois, at the time Thomas Mantell was rumored to have been killed whilst flying his plane tracking a UFO.

For details:

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Richard Miller became a contactee around 1954. Prior to that time he served
in a branch of the armed forces that later became the U.S. Air Force, was
personally knowledgeable of the UFO phenomena taking place in the 1940’s, and
participated in some top government UFO studies. After becoming a contactee, he
actually spent time aboard an alien craft by invitation of its occupants (the
same aliens who had previously made physical contact with our President
Eisenhower).
http://www.ufocasebook.com/Mantell.html

Quote
At the time of contact, he lived here in Michigan. He became a channel around
which a group formed to study the messages he was receiving. These recordings
are classic and the information contained in them are more pertinent today than
ever before.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/prepare4contact/message/28744

Richard Miller created an organization called The Solar Cross Foundation to investigate the ET/UFO Phenomena. There's not much to be found on the Solar Cross Foundation to say the least:

The Solar Cross Foundation (1955 - 1979)
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ricahrd+t+miller+the+solar+cross+foundation&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#client=firefox-a&hs=4Xa&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=richard+t+miller+the+solar+cross+foundation&spell=1&sa=X&ei=QAhvUfuuIsWd0AXfnoHABA&ved=0CC4QvwUoAA&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.45368065,d.d2k&fp=c6c0eceedbf3f154&biw=1360&bih=645

Richard T Miller then went on to author the book  Star Wards - Welcome Home Earth Man (and two sequels, I believe)
http://www.amazon.com/STAR-WARDS-Welcome-Home-Earthman/dp/B000OFWL94

He later went on to create The Phoenix Project -  Its long to explain so here I'll excerpt from Paranet.

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A few weeks ago, ParaNet received on-line copies of several documents which purported to come from a previously unknown organization called "The Phoenix Project". The project is described in the documents as a "private, civilian, research organization" which was "formed in 1952 to investigate and correlate information" concerning UFOs and ETs. According to the information contained in the documents, for a small price one can receive printed copies of the project's reports, complete with maps, magnetometer readings, and a host of other supporting charts and diagrams which serve to make the whole endeavor look scientific and legitimate.

Paranet investigated The Phoenix Project quite thoroughly - and a lot can be understood from reading the whole transcripts. (linked below after all quotes)

Amongst the things Paranet *thought* they discovered was a connection between The Phoenix Project by Richard T Miller & Co and The Phoenix Project - Doris 'Dhama' Ekker - a connection made because BOTH Richard and Dhama claim to 'Channel' Hatonn, and mixture of SIMILAR postal addresses.

(I have a theory! aha)

Here's a glimpse:

(Please note that in the LINK Paranet goes off tangent quite a bit, please bear in mind the *current discussion)

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ParaNet received the three documents as uploads from a Mr. Jack L. Mathias of Carson City, Nevada, who represented himself as the sole public spokesman for the Project. But the reports themselves name neither the authors of the documents nor the principals of the Phoenix Project. Instead, they cryptically state that they are the work of "former military personnel who have all been associated with intelligence activities, and have knowledge of covert government operations concerning UFO's" (AND also 'disinformation' projects? - Branton). Given the sorry history of anonymous documents and 'former' government agents in the UFO community, ParaNet felt it necessary to start its own investigation in an effort to determine just who was behind the Phoenix Project and what their motives might be.

First we sent a letter to the post office box listed in the documents, asking for further information about the group; but the letter was not answered. We corresponded by electronic mail with Mr. Mathias, who represents himself as an agent for the group, but he refused to provide any of the information we requested. So much for the direct approach.

Each document formally states that the Phoenix Project logo is a registered trademark [presumably in the state of Nevada, since that is where their mailing address is located], so we tried a query to the Nevada trademark office in Carson City. That office informed us that the state of Nevada has NO record of any current trademarks under the "Phoenix Project" name.

 They did say that articles of incorporation were filed under the name of the Phoenix Project on 25 August 1988 by a Mr. Thomas Naylor of Las Vegas, Nevada. However, the corporation failed to file the names and addresses of its officers by 1 July 1989 as required by Nevada law, as a result of which the incorporation was revoked by the Nevada Secretary of State. And so we reached another apparent dead end, except for one bit of trivia uncovered by a ParaNet investigator in Las Vegas: An attorney named Thomas C. Naylor had recently moved into an office building at 2810 West Charleston in Las Vegas.

Next we contacted the U.S. Postal Service in Carson City, Nevada to determine the box holder for the Phoenix Project's publisher, Advent Publishing Company. We were told that the box was registered to a Richard T. Miller, whose address was given as a mobile-home park in Carson City.

Following this, we contacted the Clerk and Recorder's office in Carson City, and determined that a Richard Miller is listed with them as the legal owner of Advent Publishing. However, the telephone number they gave us for Mr. Miller has been disconnected, and directory assistance was unable to provide a new one. Another brick wall.

To this point, all attempts to verify the Phoenix Project's legitimacy using conventional methods had proved futile, so we decided to try a different approach. The Phoenix Project explicitly and emphatically disclaims affiliation with any other groups using the name 'Phoenix'. And just to make sure everyone gets the message, each document states at the beginning that "n particular, there is no affiliation with a publisher known as America West, any of its publications, or the individuals known as George and Desiree Green"

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Unfortunately, ParaNet has uncovered evidence that these disclaimers may be intended to conceal rather than to illuminate.

America West, it turns out, is the publisher of a magazine called the Phoenix Liberator, which carries large quantities of channeled material alleged to originate with an entity from the Pleiades known as 'Hatonn'. The Phoenix Liberator has come under fire recently from some in the UFO community as anti-Semitic and neo-fascist. [See, for example, "Hatonn's World: A Neo-Nazi ET?" by Don Ecker in the July/August 1992 issue of UFO Magazine.]

(Also note that Don Eckers judgment of 'Hatonn' is highly flawed - for a start he calls Hatonn a reptilian, when Hatonn clearly states WHO HE IS..I.E NOT a repttilian LOL)

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But a few days ago one of ParaNet's subscribers uploaded a response from 'Hatonn' to Don Ecker, which he said he had pulled down from the Phoenix Liberator BBS; and with it he posted a new address for the Liberator. That address was all too familiar: 2810 West Charleston Boulevard, Las Vegas, Nevada -- THE SAME BUILDING, it seems, where an attorney named Thomas Naylor also has his new office.

And then another strange coincidence: A posting coming across the Internet stated that before 'Hatonn' channeled through his current host, he used to convey his messages through a Mr. RICHARD MILLER, who started an organization which was known as the Solar Cross and which was apparently a forerunner of the Phoenix Liberator

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Is this the same RICHARD MILLER who owns the Phoenix Project's publisher, Advent Publishing Company?

We do not yet know if the THOMAS NAYLOR who tried to incorporate the Phoenix Project is the same THOMAS NAYLOR who apparently SHARES 2810 West Charleston with the new offices of the Phoenix Liberator. We do not yet know if the RICHARD MILLER who owns Advent Publishing is the same RICHARD MILLER who reportedly once channeled 'Hatonn'.

 In short, we do not yet know if the Phoenix Project is truly an independent organization, or merely another incarnation of America West Publishers and the Phoenix Liberator. But the coincidences are certainly striking and suggestive. And in light of this we again urge extreme caution in dealing with the Phoenix Project material, until such time as a definitive assessment of the Project's motives and reliability can be made.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/branton/esp_dulcebook16.htm

Richard T Millers rebuttal to Paranet:

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The statement I refer to is - whether I am, or my company is,
another incarnation of America West and their people.  The answer is an
emphatic - no.

    Let me set the record straight.  I am a semi-retired electronic and
radio and television broadcast engineer.  I am also the sole owner of
Advent Publishing Company.  This Company is registered as a sole
proprietorship, in Carson County, State of Nevada. I operate this
business to occupy my spare time and to supplement my retirement income.
Neither myself, or my Company has any connection with America West
Publishing, their publication the "Phoenix Liberator," or any of their
numerous publications.  I do not know them, and I have never had any
dealings with them.

    It should be perfectly clear and very obvious from what I've stated,
that I find the activities of America West and the content of the
"Phoenix Liberator" thoroughly disgusting.  And that, Mr. Corbin, is the
overwhelming reason for my use of a strong disclaimer, disavowing any
relationship or affiliation with the above named organization, its
publications, and their known principals.

    You also raise the question as to whether I am the same Richard
Miller who, many years ago, communicated with an individual known as
Hatonn and started an organization known as the Solar Cross.

    My answer may startle you.  Yes I am, and yes I did.  However, I
have not been active in such activities for many years. I am answering
this question only because of your attempt to make an onerous
association between myself and America West, and the "Phoenix
Liberator."  An association that doesn't exist.

    I can state, however, without reservation, that the "Phoenix
Liberator" is fraudulently using the name Hatonn and claiming he is the
source of their information.  They have used the name of a respected
Being as a "drawing card" to entice the innocent and lend a degree of
credibility to the rubbish they publish.
http://mail.paranoiamagazine.com/archive/General-Conspiracy-Data/PHOENTRM.TXT

Ok, so Miller claims NO affiliation with the 'fraudulent' (his words) Hatonn scribed by Doris Ekker, despite the similarities (Well, they major differently in linguistics according to Don Ecker, reference to article made above)

I believe him - despite Paranets reservations, he has no affiliation with Doris and thinks the whole things a hoax.

Richard writes to Doris's Hatonn to claim fraud with given explanation - Doris' Hattonn responds to the claim with given explanation:

Phoenix Journal - First Steps -  by Gyeorgos C. Hatonn, SOLAR CROSS OR SOMETHING, page 89

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=7UyEzFvM9kQC&pg=PA95&lpg=PA95&dq=Richard+T+Miller+solar+cross+hatonn&source=bl&ots=KXnOKziZq1&sig=uR_VxiNnhYS045tQmYeYkqbkeg8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Kw5vUcf6N5TB0gWqhICwDQ&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Richard%20T%20Miller%20solar%20cross%20hatonn&f=false

Hatonn explains (in his own individual way) why he is not a fraud, and he hints at where the confusion lies.
Yes he HINTS. He can't breach the Law of Confusion/Free Will  ;) (Ra Reference aha).

Hatonn (Doris') also makes it CLEAR he is NOT denying Richard T Miller was in contact with Hatonn. (previously)


I see where the confusion lies, however if you don't I probably couldn't explain it  :P

Long story short (-ish)

I'm not in a position to pay £80 for Millers book Star Wards, so my next best option was to locate his audio tapes (a common thing these tapes seem to be, as Beter, Elkins, Doris  and ??- all used audio tapes)

I require these tapes In order to verify a theory I have - or in order to prove that Doris' Hatonn is in fact a hoax..

Here's the thing

I managed to find some of those tapes 2 weeks ago. However being pressed for time I only managed to listen to 20 mins worth (out of about 70 tapes) - so I bookmarked the page to return to at a later date. I actually opened them last week, although my media player didn't seem to want to work, so I left opening them to return to at a later date.

Today, I returned to the site with the intention of downloading them all before they disappeared on the net.

And guess what? THEY DISAPPEARED  :o  ::)

Here's my source - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/prepare4contact/message/28744

All links 404ed.

http://ipsmediaworks.net/issa/
http://loveandempowerment.com/1024_p1
http://www.stardoves.com/pub.html

Now I may need to put my tin foil hat back on - but all those links bloody worked last week!  :o

That's the only bloomin site I've ever found those tapes on, and I'm rather annoyed and disappointed that I cannot locate any of audio tapes, my classified is a plea, that some day some one else will take interest in this Miller fellow and help me locate the Audio tapes

Any help greatly appreciated :)

P.s - For anyone interested - after months of intensive research into The Phoenix Project by Doris Ekker, it either seems to be LEGIT (In ways you can't imagine) - or a HUGE DISINFO campaign.... Until Richard T Miller is investigated - I cannot decide which.








Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: robomont on April 17, 2013, 03:39:12 PM
i think i remember don ecker being a proven fraud.
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Sinny on April 17, 2013, 03:46:02 PM
Yea he's got Loony Toon Detractor written all over him :)
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Sinny on May 11, 2013, 04:28:56 AM
Guys - after being unsuccessful finding alternative sources to the Audio files my self, I also posted my request of help over at ATS in the hopes I may strike gold..Lucky for me, I did find help, as another member posted a link to a site in Spanish (I believe).

That was great - but look here, a couple of weeks on and that link has now become defunct  :o

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread942864/pg1

Is somebody playing mind games with me?!?!?!?!?! aha.
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: sky otter on May 11, 2013, 09:39:16 AM


Sinny
this isn't something i have previously been interested in but i do enjoy looking stuff up
so
i hope some of this may be of help in your search ;D


COMMANDER HATONN - THE PHOENIX LIBERATORwww.greatdreams.com/ufos/hatonn.htm?Cached
SimilarI also don't know why it was important to check on Commander Hatonn. ..... disks or tape records, destroy the guidance systems of missiles and the computer ..... We were told that the box was registered to a Richard T. Miller, whose address ...
http://www.greatdreams.com/ufos/hatonn.htm


The Future Of Mankind - A Billy Meier Wiki - Appendiceswww.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Appendices?Cached
SimilarRichard T. Miller (false contactee) channeling tape - 47. Haton [Hatonn] - 47. 6.4. 12. Usamine - girlfriend of Semjase, language specialist - 47. CONTACT 48 ...
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Appendices


THE ESSENCE OF THE NOTES - Geocitieswww.oocities.org/maurice_osborn/ES11.htm?CachedCONTACT 47 [Sunday, February 29, 1976, 1:48 a.m.] Contact person: Semjase Richard T. Miller (false contactee) channeling tape 47. Haton [Hatonn] 47. 6.4.12 ...
http://www.oocities.org/maurice_osborn/ES11.htm


The Contact Reports of "Billy" Eduard Albert Meier: a topical listing ...be.convdocs.org/docs/index-120510.html?page=6?CachedContact person: Semjase Richard T. Miller (false contactee) channeling tape: http ://www.textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2423.ufo. Haton [Hatonn]: ...
http://be.convdocs.org/docs/index-120510.html?page=6

download - Phoenix Source Distributorswww.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/940802.pdf?CachedJul 28, 1994 – However, we are going to HAVE A SAVIOR1 Not Hatonn, not ...... ion of Richard T . Miller, much the more- ment in point says it all: ...... 1 However on this tape we did not mention the ception that Ronn would have ever said ...
www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/940802.pdf?Cached

Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn - The Preferred Network Inc. | Conspiracy ...www.conspiracyking.com/Gyeorgos-Ceres-Hatonn.html?CachedResults 1 - 20 of 103 – 4 audio tapes: Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn provides facts concerning the ... born into a "Time of Radiance", This journal describes in detail t…
http://www.conspiracyking.com/vmchk/Gyeorgos-Ceres-Hatonn.html

Hatonn Meeting Tapeswww.phoenixsourcecanada.com/html/hatonn_meeting_tapes.html?CachedPhoenix Source: Phoenix Journals, Wayne Dyer, David Childress, David Icke, Gyeorgos. Home · Journals · Hatonn Tapes · Global Alliance · Newspaper ...
http://www.phoenixsourcecanada.com/html/hatonn_meeting_tapes.html

6 years worth of recording The WORD Meeting Tapes in MP3 ...hatonnspeaksthetruth.wordpress.com/.../6-years-worth-of-recording-the-...?CachedSep 15, 2010 – Why not listen to those tapes and get a real feel of Hatonn so that you would truly know a false speaker from a real one? EJ now confirms his ...
http://hatonnspeaksthetruth.wordpress.com/2010/09/15/6-years-worth-of-recording-the-word-meeting-tapes-in-mp3-format-meetings-with-commander-gyeorgos-ceres-hatonn/


 MUST READ: The Hatonn Tapes (MJ12 and More)tinfoilpalace.eamped.com/.../must-read-the-hatonn-tapes-mj12-and-more...?CachedNov 17, 2010 - 7 posts - 3 authors
Re: MUST READ: The Hatonn Tapes (MJ12 and More). #1, by jafo, 18 November 2010 09:19 AM. Waded through some of it.. but that is way too ...
http://tinfoilpalace.eamped.com/2010/11/17/must-read-the-hatonn-tapes-mj12-and-more/


Lecture by Hatonn - Serendipitywww.serendipity.li/eden/hatonn.html?Cached
SimilarLecture by Hatonn. ... Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy Subject: INFO: The Grey Men Tape - Channelled Hatonn message (Long) Keywords: Phoenix ...
http://www.serendipity.li/eden/hatonn.html



ok...back to the garden.. ;D
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Sinny on May 11, 2013, 10:29:03 AM
Thank you for your efforts  ;D

Unfortunately, I already have the above subject matter covered, however, the Solar Cross audio tapes still elude me.

Two sources I am inclined to believe, state the subject matter I am currently searching for is fraudulent anyway - although my OCD will not be satisfied until I have investigated everything I wanted to know  ::) 

Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: greatlakeatlantic on August 24, 2013, 12:58:19 PM
Hi, this is my first time I've been active on this forum.  After I found your thread, I signed up just so I could attempt to help you on your search for the Richard T. Miller tapes.  I have the tapes in mp3 format, at least the only tapes that still exist.  I also have a pdf of the latest edition Star Wards that I could send you.  I was in touch with Richard's partner who he was living with at the time of his death in September 2000.  Richard developed Brain Cancer, and began destroying everything he had, i.e. Tapes, records, and papers, which would include the tapes, including Solar Cross literature.  I actively tried to gather as much info and material that I could about Richard and his life, and now believe I own everything that still exists.  If you'd like it, I'd be happy to give you whatever you need.

Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Sinny on August 25, 2013, 03:58:58 AM
I can't thank you enough GreatLake,

Thanks for my personal email - It would be most awesome if you could please add your content into this thread, and I will download all add and to my personal library.

I can't wait to read Star Wards - and it will certainly help me finish my investigations stated above.

Kindest, excited regards,
Sin.

Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: greatlakeatlantic on August 25, 2013, 10:33:36 AM
Here is a link to my google drive, where you'll be able to download the recordings of the extraterrestrials that Richard T. Miller was said to have been in contact with.  They are fascinating listens.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B5ws1QCmQvu1Ty1Nd2FKVVJUeTA&usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B5ws1QCmQvu1Ty1Nd2FKVVJUeTA&usp=sharing)

Below are the links to the full body of surviving work of Richard T. Miller.

Star Wards https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5ws1QCmQvu1T1VnemttZzIzX1U/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5ws1QCmQvu1T1VnemttZzIzX1U/edit?usp=sharing)

The Arisian Chronicles https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5ws1QCmQvu1aVlxX0k3UnJWdFk/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5ws1QCmQvu1aVlxX0k3UnJWdFk/edit?usp=sharing)

Today Plus One https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5ws1QCmQvu1NjhCSmJQSlI0QXc/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5ws1QCmQvu1NjhCSmJQSlI0QXc/edit?usp=sharing)

Please let me know if any of these don't work.

I'm glad I could satisfy your curiosity.  I was at one time in the exact same place you were, trying to dissect the differences and decide for myself what really was going on with the Hatonn from Phoenix Journal and Liberator and the Hatonn from Richard's T. Miller's recordings and books.  There is a STARK difference, and you will soon come to know that for yourself.  If there's anything else I can help with, or if you'd like to discuss Richard, or any of the other 1950's contactees, please don't hesitate.

"I depart now beloved ones, in the “Light” of the Radiant One, and in so doing say
this to you: Oh people of Earth, come home! Come home! I am Hatonn."
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Sinny on February 21, 2014, 03:23:06 AM
(note to self)
This threads generated a lot of viewings, compared to my Phoenix Journals thread... I wonder what the reasoning is?
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: greatlakeatlantic on February 21, 2014, 03:44:32 AM
Is there anything else you'd like to discuss?  Was what I provided helpful?
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Sinny on February 21, 2014, 03:56:25 AM
Sure, thank you for checking back in  ;D

Please review this thread: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum1/index.php?topic=6161.0

The first segment relates to Richard T Miller, and then the rest takes me on a journey from there.. I wish I could tell you what I'm looking for.. but I'm still trying to figure that part out lol.

If you have any developing thoughts I'd love to hear about them..
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Logos on November 12, 2014, 12:48:08 AM
Here is a link to my google drive, where you'll be able to download the recordings of the extraterrestrials that Richard T. Miller was said to have been in contact with.  They are fascinating listens.

Today Plus One https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5ws1QCmQvu1NjhCSmJQSlI0QXc/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5ws1QCmQvu1NjhCSmJQSlI0QXc/edit?usp=sharing)

Please let me know if any of these don't work.

I'm glad I could satisfy your curiosity.  I was at one time in the exact same place you were, trying to dissect the differences and decide for myself what really was going on with the Hatonn from Phoenix Journal and Liberator and the Hatonn from Richard's T. Miller's recordings and books.  There is a STARK difference, and you will soon come to know that for yourself.  If there's anything else I can help with, or if you'd like to discuss Richard, or any of the other 1950's contactees, please don't hesitate.

"I depart now beloved ones, in the “Light” of the Radiant One, and in so doing say
this to you: Oh people of Earth, come home! Come home! I am Hatonn."

Thanks for providing this material, as I, too, had been looking for Miller's material for some time.

However, the link to "Today Plus One" is dead. Could you repost it?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Sinny on November 12, 2014, 04:40:13 AM
Logo's, GreatLakes has not been around since I hinted at my doubt of the authenticity of the 'Communication'.

I found an obscure reference to Millers 'Boss' having busted Richard Miller faking the Radio communication...

Unfortunately I lost the foreign link which took me several months to find...

I think his bosses name was R.Cox, but this is from poor memory.. You have reminded me to attempt to locate this link again thank you.

And Greatlakes, if you check by to see this, I hope I didn't offend you.
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Logos on November 14, 2014, 12:57:32 AM
Thanks, Sinny.
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Miller1986 on January 10, 2017, 11:18:33 AM
hi guys....just want to let you know...all tapes exist...and i mean all of them...not just tapes...

Also all documentation about many secret projects,all documentation about SOLAR company..

All names who was working there...also all info about his secret group who was dealing with UFO (names,positions,photos..etc )...
Have everything about Richards work and personal info from 1947 till 2000 ...when he died...
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: The Seeker on January 10, 2017, 12:08:25 PM
hi guys....just want to let you know...all tapes exist...and i mean all of them...not just tapes...

Also all documentation about many secret projects,all documentation about SOLAR company..

All names who was working there...also all info about his secret group who was dealing with UFO (names,positions,photos..etc )...
Have everything about Richards work and personal info from 1947 till 2000 ...when he died...
that is very interesting, Miller; can you verify that you have all this data? Please feel free to contact me via pm...


Seeker
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Miller1986 on January 13, 2017, 01:49:14 AM
yes,i can verify,almost all documents are signed with his name..have dates on them,some have stamb like registered document,also have all his personal post mails what he was getting from people with who he was working on some secret projects...(some of letters was coming from Bill & William Cooper)..

I don't know so much about all this, im not researcher...i was been lucky to find all this stuff...and now was trying to find out about Richard and things what he was doing...but on internet i was not been able to find out a lot..
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Sinny on March 18, 2017, 10:59:44 AM
Oh, I'd love to look at it all.. Not sure how you could or would go about sharing?

His communication with Bill Copper might shed the light I have been seeking.

Thanks for popping by!
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Miller1986 on July 25, 2017, 09:35:53 PM
it is way to much documents for scanning and sharing... way to much...
Thinking to try to sell all this stuff on eBay ... i even have his oscilloscope  ..
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: The Seeker on July 26, 2017, 01:55:31 AM
it is way to much documents for scanning and sharing... way to much...
Thinking to try to sell all this stuff on eBay ... i even have his oscilloscope  ..
So, how much are you looking to get for all the documentation? Put some numbers out there (preferably by PM or email) so we have something to look at, plus a picture of what you have to offer would help

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Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Sinny on July 28, 2017, 03:38:47 AM
it is way to much documents for scanning and sharing... way to much...
Thinking to try to sell all this stuff on eBay ... i even have his oscilloscope  ..


Could/would you give us an overview of the details? Could you tell me more about the contents of his communication with Cooper and others?

Also, let us know if and when you post those things to ebay.

Could we see some photos?

I really want that info!

Interested in purchasing depending on your price.
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Miller1986 on August 06, 2017, 06:23:21 PM
i will send u some pictures later, when i stack all documents together... i give couple of files to some person who contacted another person in Canada, and this person says that i should not try to sell it on public sites....
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: zorgon on August 06, 2017, 10:07:47 PM
i will send u some pictures later, when i stack all documents together... i give couple of files to some person who contacted another person in Canada, and this person says that i should not try to sell it on public sites....

Well that is a good idea to keep it private

 I previously bought a lot of original T T Brown papers  (just about ready to scan them all)  It was through Ebay but a few other members thought they were doing me a favor trying to get them so it drove the price up.  All they had to do was let me know LOL so we din't bid against each other

Pegasus is not rich  but between a few of us we can come up with some cash. Let me know what you are looking for. The collection will be preserved then
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: robomont on August 07, 2017, 02:15:33 AM
the scope sounds interesting but i dont have alot of dough.really broke,but give me a price anyways if it still works.i want a scope,having one with a story.well thats kinda cool too.
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Miller1986 on August 10, 2017, 12:54:16 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182707476579?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

here is the link of scope on eBAY....its works & asking & $ 200 or best offer...

if u cant find it with this link, just go on eBay and type '' HEATHKIT 10-12 ( RICHARD T. Miller)
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: zorgon on August 10, 2017, 02:12:03 PM
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tjQAAOSww1FZeB1F/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Cobi53 on August 13, 2017, 09:39:04 AM
I realize that this thread is years old. However, I just found it today. For what it is worth, I have personal experience with Richard Miller. In the mid 70s, in San Jose, Calif., my grandmother joined the Solar Cross Foundation, headed by Richard Miller. She met Miller at the Rosicrucian temple in San Jose. At the time, I was 10 and accompanied her to the "workshops" given by Miller. Looking back, the workshops were just B.S. session about aliens and space ships.

Anyway, my grandmother became a closely knit member of the group. She had all of Miller's tapes. We used to sit at the kitchen table and listen to them together. Of course, from the perspective of a child, I found the tapes fascinating, if not a little scary. My grandmother believed in all of it...every word. Naturally, I believed too because she was my role model in this respect.

Solar Cross became my grandmother's social life and more...being part of it gave her purpose. In fact, she edited many pages of the manuscript for Miller's book, Space Wards, from the kitchen table with her manual typewriter. I observed this with my own eyes.

Ok, fast forward to the early 80s. Grandma had been a member of Solar Cross for several years by now. Richard Miller, the family story goes, convinced several of the members to sell their homes in San Jose and move to Middletown, CA, by Clear Lake. My grandparents were among those who sold and moved. By that time, I was around 15 or so. I spent summer vacations with them, later moving in with them when I was 17. There were several members living in Middletown besides my grandparents.

The story that Miller sold them was that the aliens, or the brothers of the Solar Cross..Kla La, Mon ka, Voltra, etc...(I know, those names wouldn't fly today), were supposed to come down in their space craft and meet everyone by Clear Lake. Unfortunately, Richard Miller absconded with the group's money, as well as the wife of one of the members. He later resurfaced in Carson City, Nevada...but that was much later.

Now, my grandmother was devastated by this. She'd believed in it with all of her heart...so did the other members who moved to Middletown. Also, they were basically broke. My grandfather was retired, so were a few of the other members. He had taken quite a large sum from them. My grandmother never really got over that. I remember her telling me about all of it when I was older, before she passed. My grandfather never really believed it...but he went along with it because it made her happy.

I do not know if there ever was an investigation into it or not. My family has never told me that. Maybe they don't know. My mother is still with us...and remembers all of it. I remember quite a lot of it myself, having  witnessed a lot of it.

In my later adulthood (I am now 53), I have tried to find details about Miller on the Internet...but they are not easy to find. I speculate this is because all of this occurred long before the Internet. The tapes are still out there online. I've listened to them; they have not changed. Rest assured, they are fake. Miller was a con man. He invented the story of the aliens. He faked the channelings.  Do I have proof of any of this? No, I do not, outside of eye witness testimonies of myself and my remaining family members, my mother and her sister. Still, I like to tell the truth, as I know it, about Miller whenever I get the rare opportunity.

That said, I do not try to debunk all alien theories. I do tend to believe in their possibility...but I do not believe everything I see or hear.
Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: A51Watcher on August 13, 2017, 10:21:51 AM
Cobi -

Ouch!

Now it sounds more like Richard T Miller & Vanishing Wads of Cash!

eta: A quick check of youtube does show many video's of his channelings.


Title: Re: Richard T Miller & Vanishing Audio Tapes!
Post by: Pimander on August 14, 2017, 03:17:30 PM
I can pick you up an oscilloscope for less than $200 and can stick on some brand new ticker tape than has the name of anybody you like.  Albert Einstein anyone?