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Title: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 06, 2017, 03:37:44 PM
Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS

This is a topic I started on many years ago. It was what got Ted Twietmeyer onboard with Pegasus in the first place. It involves the changing Schumann resonace and it is all about changing timelines

These changes are only noticed by  the people they effect, although it appears that they do effect several people with the same shift.

In the case of the MARS event, ted wrote about it as PROOF of timeline shifts... then later when I went to follow up on it, he didn't know what I was talking about. Then now all the info is back and he has added to it.

A similar thing happened with several other people I know, but I will get to that later

I wii start with this statement:

I AM NOT FROM THIS TIMELINE

And I posted this in GENERAL so outsiders can see and I am hoping this brings the Sapce Otter back because she can help verify this. Locking this until I finish as I need to run some errands...

Time Lines
A Glitch in the Matrix


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/Timelines_001.jpg)
Berenstein Bears Anomaly (Glitch in the Matrix), Mandela Effect
Image Credit: Quantum Zen


Time Lines - A Glitch in the Matrix
Nov 25 2016
A funny thing happened on Mars...

A few years ago I was looking into reasons why TIME might be changing... tied to the Schumann Resonance it appears that Time itself may be changing and that a current day is only 16 hours instead of 24, but our clocks still show 24...  The ONLY reason we can even be aware of this change is that part of us exists OUTSIDE of time so we can 'feel a disturbance in the force' as it were.  Many people I have talked to have the feeling that time is shorter. They can't get as much done in a day as before...   Yes we are told that this is a phenomena of getting old... BUT when young people are making the same comments it's time to look at it.

This article is NOT about the change in TIME itself. I will link to my work on that later as it is not yet compiled, but you can start your own search  "a day is now 16 hours" and "Schumann resonance increasing"

During my research into the time changes I used many search terms like "shrinking time". "time speeding up"  etc  and over the years an odd thing happened...

One day I would search and find several universities studying the same thing. I saved the articles and the links to refer to at a later date. But when I went back to look at them... they were GONE... no links, nothing came up in search and the files were not on my computer.

Okay so was I going crazy? Well I had it all fresh in my memory so I didn't think so.  I then started looking deeper at time issues and started finding that MANY other people have experienced the same thing. They too were told they were imagining things or were crazy.

Oddly enough there is an old TWILIGHT ZONE ("A matter of Minutes") episode on just this kind of experience  where things are missing one day, but back in order the next day.

Well during this new search I came across an article by Ted Twietmeyer...  It is his theory that time lines have been changed in small ways by something changing in the past (like if a time traveler went back and history changed just a little bit due to something that happened)  If such a change was major, we might no be here to remember it so it would be a moot point. So only small things would show up.

A funny thing happened on Mars...

Why Mars?  many of us have been involved for decades looking at endless photos take by the two Rovers Spirit and Opportunity...  those photos also have what is called a SUNDIAL which is basically a color chart for the images. So all anomaly hunters are familiar with that thing like the back of our hands. Below is a current photo of that sundial on one of the Rovers on the Martian surface.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/mastcam-6b.0.jpg)

The issue here is the gear-like ring on the post. I will post a portion of Ted's article below explaining this.  When he posted that article my first thought was "Hell yeah there is no gear on that thing!" and I looked up all my old photos on file. DANG! They all had the gear... so I contacted Ted and added my voice to his.   The years went by... and I wanted to return to the topic for our forum...  the articles were GONE... I contacted Ted... he had no idea what I was talking about.  Okay this is getting insane, I thought.  Then recently, end of 2014, I looked at it again... and Lo and Behold... all the articles are back

No I am NOT crazy... but if I am so are many others following this research. But it is difficult. Because if those time lines keep flipping, I never know if this work will survive the next flip. Al I know is that it DOESN'T Change in my memory.

Here is the update to his first article that caught my attention:
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 06, 2017, 03:43:28 PM
Rover Sundial Survey Concluded
By Ted Twietmeyer 12-31-7


First, I'd like to extend my thanks on behalf of Jeff and myself to all those who responded to the survey. So what is the purpose of the survey? It is about TIME. Specifically, a change in the past which had appeared to cause a change in the present.
 
About a week prior to this posting, a change in the sundial on the Rover was suddenly noticed. This design change appeared
in the sundial which I've attempted to illustrate in the altered photo below:

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/RoverSundial20nal.JPG)

 Original sundial as remembered by four different people. This image has been modified in an attempt to show what several individuals remember. (Make that seven people, myself and two others on my team at Pegasus)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/Rov007.JPG)

 Image of the sundial as presented in the survey
 
The difference between these two images is the appearance of protrusions near the base of the shaft, which look something like teeth on a gear. These objects were not seen back in 2005 when the book "What NASA Isn't Telling You About Mars" was first published. Apparently, something in the past has caused a sudden change in the present. All known copies of this image, both digital and those in print, have all been changed and look like the image above.
 
SURVEY RESULTS
 
None of the nine respondents to the survey has observed this change. Though somewhat disappointing, the survey data must stand as it is. Possible reasons for this may be that three of the four people who observed this change had some extensive involvement with the creation of Mars book, and therefore had a strong memory of what it originally looked like. After seeing this, some Rense readers might also recall the change as well. Almost all respondents referred to a change in color or the lack of dust on small features of the sundial, and only one referred to the ring around the outside which anchors the sundial to the rover as being different. It may be true that this ring is also different as well.
 
At this point you may be wondering how this change could be possible. Consider that your mind exists outside of space-time. Your thoughts take place essentially at the quantum level, since they consist of electrical and electrochemical actions. Even if the physical world were to change you could still remember something as it originally was. For example, most likely at some point in the past you observed an eclipse of the Moon. This is something no one forgets.
 
Although that eclipse you remember has long passed and no longer exists, you can recall it anytime like the memory of a photograph or a loved one. If another full eclipse was forecast to take place but when it took place it only partially covered the moon instead, you would know something is very wrong. Likewise, if you saw a photograph of an actual full eclipse in a book which was captioned as a partial one, you would also know something is wrong.
 
This author was perhaps the first to notice the change in the sundial. It was only after presenting the image to others or discussing it with them, did they also recall that the protrusions around the base of the shaft were not there before.
 
Did someone go back in time and make a suggestion to Bill Nye ("the science guy") to add the protrusions to the design? He is credited with conceiving the sundial/photometric calibration target combination. Did they suggest to him that these protrusions would enhance it's operation? We may never know. And perhaps Bill Nye may not even know a subtle suggestion took place, if the suggestion was made in a subtle manner. The fact that apparently not one photograph exists anywhere without these protrusions (except the photo specially created for this report) substantiates the fact that every photograph related to this in the present has been changed. Only the memory of the sundial as it originally was designed exists, and nothing else.
 
At first glance, this might appear to be a very minor issue. But the impact of altering the past which instantly changes the present can be staggering. What other events may have been altered in the past, and who has the technology to time travel?
 
I would also like to thank Jeff Rense for being open minded on this matter, and for giving me the opportunity to field this survey.
 
Ted Twietmeyer
tedtw@frontiernet.net
www.data4science.net
www.bookonmars.info

SOURCE:  RENSE.COM (http://www.rense.com/general79/sruvv.htm)  Reprinted by Permisson from Ted Twietmeyer
 
 
IMPORTANT UPDATE on Survey Results
 
Thanks to an email from a rense.com reader named Edd(?) we have images of the sundial used on the first rover mission to Mars, known as Pathfinder. This one is quite different from the current rover sundials.
 
 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/d33p.jpg)

 Sundial on Pathfinder [1]
 
 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/RoverSundial20nal.JPG)

Rover Sundial 2007
Sundial as remembered by several people on Spirit and Opportunity rovers
(Above image altered to show it as remembered.)
 
Note that the Pathfinder sundial does not have the gear-like ring present on the current Spirit and Opportunity rovers. It does have different color reference markers however.
 
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/Rov007.JPG)
 
Rover sundial 2007.jpg Actual photograph of Spirit
and Opportunity sundial as it appears today.
 
Ted Twietmeyer tedtw@frontiernet.net
[1] - http://mars-news.de/life/mpf-anomalies.html
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 06, 2017, 03:45:40 PM
Somewhere in a Small Pennsylvania Forest

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/woods.jpg)
Image Credit: Shadyside Worms, PA

"Somewhere" because this happened a long time ago (70's) and I forgot the exact location we were at.  The site was a small campground in Pennsylvania and we were attending a Civil War Reenactment Musket Shoot. Was my first time venturing into reenactment activities, so we went just to observe and try our hand at hitting targets with the sightless long rifles.

The campground was just off the main road and there  was a small rectangular forest next to the campground. This forest was bordered by the camp site on one side, a farm on the opposite side, the main road on the third and a dirt farm road on the fourth. It wasn't very large  as it was about the same length as the campgrounds. In the stock photo above you can see the approximate density of the woods.

So one afternoon of our stay three of us went for a walk into the woods... we came to a small sunlit clearing, with a big flat exposed rock layer in the middle. Just at the edge of that rocky area there was an old civil war wagon, mostly decayed. Didn't have a camera with us back then.  We headed back to the camp down the same path we came and told the others.  Went back the next morning, the plan was to dig around it for any interesting artifacts, etc...

Well it was GONE... no trace of it... no trace of the rocky clearing. We even took string and roped off sections as we made a grid looking for it, even though we were sure of the path (This really was a small section of woods.  Never found it...  It was like it had appeared for a brief moment then was gone...

At the time it was more of a Ghost Story for us... there are many similar tales in the region. But today thinking back on it, I would be more inclined to add it to my Portal theory.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/Tents_001.jpg)
Image Credit: Passion for the Past - Our camp site (aka the Reenactor Post Office)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 06, 2017, 03:49:36 PM
Tucumcari, New Mexico 88401
June 30th 2016


Last June my daughter and I went to visit my ex wife in Houston Texas for a week. Drove down to bring her the rest of her stuff... that was a fun trip (not :P ) Heavy load, last a couple tires on the trailer.  On the way home, the trip was more pleasant as we had no deadline to get back and did some sight seeing...

The incident began when I was looking for a gas station and the next station was a Flying J in Tucumcari, New Mexico. Now I don't have a card for them and still had enough gas to get a few more towns so we skipped it. Around the next bend saw a nice new looking SHELL gas station ahead sign...  So we exited the freeway and turned back towards town now on Main Street, which is an old section of the Infamous Route 66

Well Tucumcari, New Mexico is mostly a Ghost Town... 

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/Downtown%20Tucumcari%20NM_2841-S.jpg)
Downtown Tucumcari, New MexicoCredit: DGHPhoto

That gas station?  Not so new LOL

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/DSC_0695a.jpg)
Credit: Dr Bob's Route 66 Motorcycle Ride

The following two screenshots from Google maps show the three key points of the incidence. A is the exit we took off the freeway. Finding no gas station open we continued down Main Street back towards the freeway and the Flying J station. We turned right towards the freeway at point B...

The next moment we were on an on ramp to the freeway 10 miles from the town heading back the way we came... at point C on the second screen cap.  Experienced a few minutes of head spinning nausea until I got my bearings. Continued on to the next exit at San Jon to turn around... (it was after we turned back we saw the mileage sign "Tucumcari  10 Miles"

So now we were low on gas and I had to stop at the Flying J (shows on my bank statement as I used the debit card)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/Card_01.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/NM-001.png)

Point A: Exited the Freeway - Point B Turned off Main Street towards Freeway

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/NM_002.png)

Point C: Where we suddenly ended up back on Freeway going back the way we came.
That gray on ramp was where we 'reappeared'  and thought we were in the right direction

After filling up and getting back on the Freeway... there were no more incidents the rest of the trip home...
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 06, 2017, 03:52:21 PM
Part Two

...until later that night.

We parked the trailer and unloaded the car... Since we were gone for two weeks we needed groceries. The Smith's close to us is open 24 hours (gotta love Vegas :P).  So we headed over to the store down the road we always use...  and saw THIS in the middle of the road (on an divider)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/DSCF7085a.JPG)

That was NOT THERE when we left....  Okay weird, but they might have put it up while we were gone.  Continued through the next lights at Desert Inn Rd and I almost went off the road. My headlights were reflected off of two huge white eyes in the middle of the curve.  Had no idea what it was (until we got close)  The next day we went to take a picture... It is an old rusted statue of a Steampunk Squid vehicle... THIS was also not there when we left. Contacted the county, they tell me it was built in 2012 !?!  Considering the rust on it... seems about right. But it wasn't there two weeks before when I filled up at the Exxon on that same corner on the way out of town.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/DSCF7079a.jpg)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/DSCF7082a.JPG)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/DSCF7081a.JPG)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/DSCF7083a.JPG)

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 06, 2017, 03:54:28 PM
Part Three

Oct 03, 2016

Every year we go camping at a Medieval week long event near Bakersfield, California  We take I 15 to the Bakersfield exit.  The event is always the first week of October.  So we head out early in the morning to arrive around noon when the site opens for setup.  On the way out of town, we were suddenly blinded by three bright points on the right hand side of the freeway... the image below is what caused it.  That photo is from an article that was dated FEB 21 2014, 9:23 AM ET

THIS was not there the last time (2015) we went to California! I have done extensive posting on solar power installations on Pegasus website... NEVER heard of this or saw it and its only 40 minutes from our house just into California.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/140221-solar-power-jsw-02-819a_a761029a5c757872f1fa9df7bde04760.nbcnews-fp-1200-800.jpg)

FEB 21 2014, 9:23 AM ET Credit: NBC News
This plant was built in 2012 (same year as that statue in part two) and came online:
Ivanpah Solar Electric Generating System Reaches ‘First Sync’ Milestone
— Testing confirms operational readiness of world’s largest solar thermal project —

NIPTON, Calif.–Sep. 24, 2013– Today it was announced that the Ivanpah Solar Electric Generating System produced its first output of energy when the Unit 1 station was synchronized to the power grid for the first time. Achieving this critical “first sync” is a major milestone for the project, which is jointly-owned by NRG Energy, Inc., BrightSource Energy, Inc. and Google. - SOURCE
Driving around Las Vegas the past few weeks there are several other changes we have noticed... big ones, but I don't think there is any need to add them to make the point of this article as they would only have meaning to us anyway.

Ted Twietmeyer, who has done research on this very topic, believes these changes are due to a possible time traveler having made small changes in the past. I tend to lean more to the Quantum Timeline explanation. I have been aware of many little "glitches in the matrix" over the years since I started Pegasus Research Consortium. having spent several years also posting at ATS (AboveTopSecret.com) I came across many similar stories that other people have experienced. Ted has also received emails and letters from people with similar experiences and links to those (at Rense.com) are listed below under "Related Links"

It was Ted's article on the mars Rover Sundial that got me to start looking into the time discrepancies and I was brought to ATS searching for information on possible portals (dimensional and or stargates). So this research really comes in three distinct parts:
1) Time lines and "glitches"
2) Time itself shrinking or speeding up (Schumann Resonance)
3) Dimensional Portals, both naturally occurring or man made (yes maybe alien connection too)
#3 We already have extensive research on though far from complete. I will be working on all this over the next few months to put all my notes in order so I can present it in a way that make sense. There is a LOT of collected data...  You can view the Portal information here  STARGATES

The BIGGEST issue with this incidence that I found most distressing was people I knew... Several people I have talked to for years are no longer the same. I will not name names... but I have some online friends that are so different now I do not even recognize them... a few are completely opposite in their current view point.  I did not fully realize this until I brought up certain subject.  One person on FB just today as I type this... He had made a post "History is Fake"  implying that the History we remembered being taught is no longer true.  I replied "WHAT IF" History is fluid and changing? and we talked a bit about timeline changes. I mentioned this incidence (in brief) and his reply was:
"I do have some small interesting stories that happened as of late, if you find the time maybe you can contact me on my cell phone [# deleted], interpreting your current comments on my page it does seem that you had dramatic shift in attitude I find that you're not the same Ron Schmidt, that I have interacted with in the past, that's what it seems like to me.
So... this is my first confirmation that someone else has noticed a drastic change.

Conclusion:

I am NOT from this TIMELINE


If anyone reading this has their own story to tell and doesn't mind sharing, please drop me an email at standauffish@earthlink.net or join us at our forum HERE
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 06, 2017, 04:01:49 PM
Posted it on the website

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/02files/Time_Lines_01.html

I will be adding to this with more later I know years ago there were threads at ATS telling similar stories. I had this in the works for some time but posted it today because on Facebook Jerry Wills of XPedition Radio ( a contributor on Pegasus) just posted THIS today

UPDATE:

February 06, 2017
First comment from someone else...  This was posted today on Facebook by our friend Jerry Wills of Xpedition Radio (he has share his work on the Amary Maru Stargate with us)

Jerry Wills

Something is... well, something is not right. Take a few minutes and soak up this video. This is NOT what I saw, not what I remember, and I'm really staggered by this. I watched this event LIVE... It did NOT happen this way, yet these are the only clips available. They offer 'proof" this is the only version. Manipulation? No.. There are people who only recall these incidents as played out here. So what the hell has happened to the world I remember? Obviously, we have jumped from one reality to another. Let's open this for discussion...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWM6cCxxBtY

Okay granted this kid seems a bit flacky but I have heard similar stories from yong and old  and most people say we are crazy or come of with other excuses

The thing to point out is that those who did NOT get effected by a particular time line shift would NOT remember things differently because they are from the new timeline that you just jumped into

I think this all ties in with my Dimensional Portal and Stargate research.

Many people I know (knew) are different in this timeline  and others have not changed as far as I can tell. Some are almost direct opposites and it has driven me batty the last frew months

Research I was working on before... when I look for a link to show someone. it is not there or not the same anymore.

So I will be focusing on this topic a LOT in the coming year


Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Pimander on February 06, 2017, 05:23:12 PM
An old teacher of mine Dr Colin Pounder (a geophysicist PhD) once told me a story.

He was on a bus journey late at night sitting upstairs on a double decker just behind the stairs where he could clearly see who came up the stairs and got on and off the bus.  There were not many people on the bus, just a few getting on and off.  Near to the end of the journey a woman got on the bus.

The bus got to the end of the journey at the last stop and he walked down the stairs and the driver asked him where the woman was who just got on upstairs.  Colin turned around expecting to see the woman walk down the stairs behind him but she wasn't there.  The driver shouted up that this was the last stop but she didn't reply or come down the stairs.

The driver was worried that the woman might be ill so they both went up the steps to the top deck to check that she was OK.  There was nobody there.  They both checked behind all of the seats but the woman who got onto the bus had gone.


Colin originally told this story to myself and a friend who were interested in the paranormal and he knew we were collecting material on ghosts, UFOs and so on.  He though the woman must have been a ghost.

Sorry Colin, but I disagree.  Ghosts don't pay bus fares.  This sounds more like a time glitch or something....

What do you think Z?

http://volcaniclightning.tripod.com/colin.htm
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 06, 2017, 05:27:32 PM
To me, all this "time glitch" thing is just a way of people not admitting that they were wrong.  :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on February 06, 2017, 05:28:01 PM
I have a brief anecdote that happened many years ago, but still disturbs me. Call me crazy if you like. I know what happened in my life.

I trace these timeline issues back to the night Obama was elected - November 5, 2008. This was the night things started to go all wonky.

My best friend, overnight, went from being a very nice, understanding person to a completely nasty, hostile cynic who clearly despised me. For the record, I did not vote in that election as I did not like either candidate, so it wasn't politics. It was like she was a completely different person.

In any case, we'd known each other for 40 years and she dropped me just like that with no explanation whatsoever. We haven't spoken since.

The following month a photograph taken in the driveway of my home appeared on my cellphone. It showed a yellow extension cord laying on the driveway. There was nothing else in the picture. I did not take it. Where did it come from?

I forgot about it and when I remembered it, roughly a month later, I looked for it and it was gone.

Third, my house was brand new. I hadn't yet cleaned out the line from the dryer to the roof. I left for a week. When I came back, the dryer hose had been cut and duct-taped back together? Who the hell was in my house, or, was this an alternative timeline?

Fourth, one evening I'd made a quick run to the store. When I returned I found a juice glass containing a white, milky liquid floating in a clear liquid on my kitchen counter. It had been placed on a circular pink hotpad that I'd knitted. Who put it there? WTF was it?

I called the police who came to the house. They tried to mindf*** me into believing I'd put it there and forgotten about it. Not! I went along with it to get them out of my house.

Completely. Fracking. Bizarre.

I was so uneasy with these events that for months I locked everything and slept with the lights on.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Eighthman on February 06, 2017, 05:41:20 PM
I clearly recall reading an odd blog - pretty sure it was VT - that Aliens had made a decision to remove the US as Hegemon  and put world headquarters somewhere in China.  After that, new technology would be released and manufactured in China in some area whose name starts with a "D".

This notion has guided my thoughts for well over a year but I can't find any trace of it.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on February 06, 2017, 05:50:09 PM
I had a book, IronMan The Ultimate Guide. It was given to me by my son on my Birthday in 2007. I had it in my bookcase displayed face out so you could see the cover. I recently rearranged my office and the book is no where to be seen. I asked my son if I had given it back to him for signage at a convention. He says he has no recollection of this book! I had many pictures of my bookcase, but now they don't show that book. It just vanished. No one I've talked to ever remembers seeing it. I thought I was going crazy in my old age, but maybe not! Hhhmmm
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 06, 2017, 06:57:38 PM
There have been a couple of events that Z and myself have chatted about over the past few years, mostly involving famous people...I distinctly remember Bob Seger having throat cancer and dying from it... then suddenly there is a new album out by Bob Seger and they are promoting his next tour ???

Judging by our association over the years and our inter-action, this is the right Zorgon  :P hopefully I have remained static in his view of me  8) although I could name one in particular that both of us have known for quite some time that is definitely not the same person we both knew...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 06, 2017, 07:04:10 PM
Zorgon, is that the same Exxon we stopped at that night on the way over to see John? and that was when, in 2013? If it is the same store, that metal contraption was not there.

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Shasta56 on February 06, 2017, 09:35:38 PM
To me, all this "time glitch" thing is just a way of people not admitting that they were wrong.  :P

Some people are more susceptible to time's fluid nature.  You seem to have a more linear mindset, from what I've read in your posts.  That may account for your lack of bizarre experiences in that particular area.  Just a thought.

Shasta
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 07, 2017, 03:54:46 AM
To me, all this "time glitch" thing is just a way of people not admitting that they were wrong.  :P

THIS does not surprise me thast you would say this. At least it means you wre the same ArMaP in this timeline :P

I MIGHT have expected you to say this phenomena is the "Mandella Effect"

 8)

So here is the problem... to those people that have experienced this... it is 100% real... and no amount of debunking will change that...If and when it happens to you you will undersatnd  Until then you don't have a horse in this race.

MANY have tried to explain it  from calling people that experience this crazy, to coming up with fancy names like the "Mandella Effect" to give a name to a phenomena were many people experience the SMAE memory 'glitch'

But the thing is this  People living in this timeline would have memories 100% related to this timeline... while those that have 'popped in" as it were would bring with them 100% clear memories of THEIR previous timeline

So the people in TL#1 will say those claiminng to be from TL#2 are crazy or delusional.

You cannot have a serious conversation between the tow because each side is 100% sure of their version  and in truth each side IS 100% correct...

Psychologists call the phenomenon confabulation. The term is used clinically to refer to memory defects experienced by patients with brain damage, and also to describe everyday phenomena like embellishing the truth when recounting events and inventing facts on the fly to fill in gaps in memory. We've all done these things at one time or another, though we're rarely conscious of it when we do.

Nope not at all the same thing :P

When Did Nelson Mandela Die?

One type of memory glitch that has generated a lot of Internet buzz in recent years is called the "Mandela Effect." In simplest terms, the Mandela Effect is an instance of collective misremembering. The term "Mandela Effect" was coined by self-described "paranormal consultant" Fiona Broome, who has written on her web site that she first became aware of the phenomenon after discovering that she shared a particular false memory — that South African human rights activist and president Nelson Mandela died in prison during the 1980s (he actually died in 2013) — with many other people. Then she began noticing other examples...

http://mandelaeffect.com/nelson-mandela-died-in-prison/

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Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 07, 2017, 03:58:08 AM
I don't usually quote Snopes :P but this is a good article from an independent writer and not really a debunk and it fits the point

The Berenstain/Berenstein Bears

No single example of the Mandela Effect has generated more online buzz than that of the children's book series and animated TV show The Berenstain Bears. Quite a few people who grew up with the series, it turns out, remember the title being The Berenstein Bears, with the name ending in "ein" instead of "ain" (with some even going to go so far as to maintain that the fictional bears' surname was changed along the way to make it "less Jewish"):

A page on Broome's web site cites a number of testimonials:

I too clearly remember it as ‘Berenstein’ even though I never read the books. Why would anyone change that? Seems irrelevant.

Does anyone remember the Berenstein Bears? I do. Although somewhere along the line the name has changed to the Berenstain Bears. No record of “stein” which is definitely how it was when i was younger. No question about it.

I would like to say that I VERY CLEARLY remember “Berenstain Bears” being Berenstein Bears. I very specifically remember it being pronounced “STEIN” on the show.

Didn't it used to be the Berenstein Bears? Now, suddenly it's the Berenstain bears? Is this some sort of anti-semitic cover-up? Or have those of us who grew up in the 1980's been misinformed, misread, and mispronounced?

Clearly, something of interest is going on here, but what? How to explain the fact that many different people can share the same false memory? This, unfortunately, is where much of the Internet discussion on the topic veers into woo-woo territory.

http://www.snopes.com/2016/07/24/the-mandela-effect/
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 07, 2017, 04:00:10 AM
Parallel Universes and Virtual Realities

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One theory based on principles of quantum mechanics holds that people who experience the Mandela Effect may have "slid" between parallel realities (à la the science fiction TV series Sliders). After growing up in a universe where it was "Berenstein" Bears, for example, some people one day woke up to find themselves in an alternate universe with "Berenstain" Bears.

Another theory posits that unbeknownst to ourselves, we all exist within something resembling a "holodeck" (a device in the world of the Star Trek series that creates a virtual reality experience for recreational purposes). On this model, apparent memory glitches are actually software glitches that cause inconsistencies in our perception of reality. Can you prove this isn't the case?

There's nothing inherently wrong with this sort of speculation — it's fun, in fact — but it yields no practical explanation or testable hypotheses. Nor is it necessary. We don't have to conduct thought experiments about the ultimate nature of reality to explain why we misremember things — or even why we misremember some of the same things the same way.

http://www.snopes.com/2016/07/24/the-mandela-effect/
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 07, 2017, 04:06:24 AM
To me, all this "time glitch" thing is just a way of people not admitting that they were wrong.  :P

I have spend a lot of time collecting data on Solar power plants out here in the West, especially Nevada Solar One and the Nellis AFB array. These cover huge areas of land and can be seen miles away... 

The three towers are literally on the side of the highway and actually blinding as you drive by... There is NO WAY I would have forgotten to mention those especially on a hyway I drive several times a year

So this is NOT a case of mistaken memory... they simply were not built, nor even planned in my previous time line... while in THIS one they were operational in 2012
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 07, 2017, 04:19:37 AM
Sorry Colin, but I disagree.  Ghosts don't pay bus fares.  This sounds more like a time glitch or something....
What do you think Z?

I think that this Timeline thing is related to the Dimensional Portals and "Stargates" around the world.

Quantuum Physics is looking at these timeline as strings that sometines cross or tough each other. That is where my thinking is headed. It would explain a LOT

Your story of that woman is exactly the same as appearance of the Loch ness monster or Bigfoot... they appear briefly in our timeline and then return... or perhap we are only glimpsing them in their dimension for a brief moment... which would explain the lack of physical evidence

More and more stories and discoveries of portals and dimensional breaches are coming out.  Jacque Vallee was looking at the   so was Bigelow and the NIDS and Aviary groups at Skin Walker Ranch.

We have the Air Force documents talking of "naturally existing portals" and the NASA discovers the Portal are real in space, some vanishing in seconds, others that are relatively stable

Hollywood is full of portals  like Sliders for example that is exactly about moving across timeline

More and more people are becoming aware of this effect  so either it is because they are realizing they are NOT crazy... OR these incidents are becomeing more frequent. The existance of the internet has alos helped, because you can get stories from all over the world

Like UFO's you have to sift the true stories from the attention seekers but that is easy to do

In my case in Arizon on that return from Texas one minute I was at one intersection... the next blink I was 10 miles away... 

Ever since then I am finding many things changed
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 07, 2017, 04:27:25 AM
I have a brief anecdote that happened many years ago, but still disturbs me. Call me crazy if you like. I know what happened in my life.


From Jerry Wills We have a great cross-section of views and comments, and I thank each of you for your comments and commentary. This has been fascinating and educational. Where does this leave us? Though there are no answers so far, I have my personal theory. What is it? Well, we have 2 distinct groups represented here. Both groups completely certain of their position. What can this mean? Well, for example; My group (I only call it that for conversational sake) recalls things the second group disagrees with, which would be the case if my group suddenly found themselves in this timeline. The first group knows with certainty those things relevant to their experience as does my group.... and we can not agree at all because we have different experiences due to our knowledge of our respective timelines. I'm still interested in dialogue. There are no wrong answers here, folks. No one is stupid, goofy or insane. To go beyond what we know requires us to go where we have never considered. I think we can get closer to understanding if we keep talking, so long as you are also interested to contribute.

 ::)

He is correct... since one group is not from this timeline what the recall and know as fact will not be the same as those that have always been here.  The group that arrived here knows something is not right because THEIR world changed... but those from here have had no change so assume the others are eithe delusional, crazy or just making it up
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 07, 2017, 04:42:24 AM
I trace these timeline issues back to the night Obama was elected - November 5, 2008. This was the night things started to go all wonky.

Hmmm I don't recall when I first started looking into this but the stargates brought me to ATS in Oct 2006...  The Ted Twietmeyer article on Mars is dated 12-31-2007 so that was about when I started.

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My best friend, overnight, went from being a very nice, understanding person to a completely nasty, hostile cynic who clearly despised me. For the record, I did not vote in that election as I did not like either candidate, so it wasn't politics. It was like she was a completely different person.

My Tenant was a very nice guy always paid on time very quiet, a security guard who was against theft vehemently... after we came back he became an asshole, stopped paying rent was busted for shop lifting and put foam in the drains before we finally got him out

Several people I have known a long time are completely opposite... so much so I don't recognize them and was actually shocked by a couple of them. One was an pro active Atheist and is now a Bible Thumper... I won't name names because it is meaningless anyway  as they would not have any memories of the versions I know :P

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The following month a photograph taken in the driveway of my home appeared on my cellphone. It showed a yellow extension cord laying on the driveway. There was nothing else in the picture. I did not take it. Where did it come from?

I forgot about it and when I remembered it, roughly a month later, I looked for it and it was gone.

Third, my house was brand new. I hadn't yet cleaned out the line from the dryer to the roof. I left for a week. When I came back, the dryer hose had been cut and duct-taped back together? Who the hell was in my house, or, was this an alternative timeline?

Fourth, one evening I'd made a quick run to the store. When I returned I found a juice glass containing a white, milky liquid floating in a clear liquid on my kitchen counter. It had been placed on a circular pink hotpad that I'd knitted. Who put it there? WTF was it?

These LITTLE thing are happening all the time... people have blamed Gremlins for these things :D

There was an old black and white Twilight Zone episode that tried to explain this in a novel way.  The point is that it was on the minds of people already back then... The story is interesting to say the least LOL

Now see? I just said it was an old B&W episode and when I looked it up it is actually in color and dated 1985

 :o

 ::)

"A Matter of Minutes"
The Twilight Zone episode


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Matter_of_Minutes

Closing narration
"Time, a handy fiction to explain why everything doesn't happen all at once. Or maybe we're the fiction, moving minute by minute...through the Twilight Zone.”

Note
This episode is based on the short story "Yesterday Was Monday", by Theodore Sturgeon first published in June 1941. It is also similar in concept to the Stephen King novella The Langoliers.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 07, 2017, 04:55:09 AM
This notion has guided my thoughts for well over a year but I can't find any trace of it.

When I started this research into timelines and the Schumann Resonance I was still on ATS...  Threads would appera discussing the topics  and then disappear

At first I thought it was the typical ATS thread deleting crap but soon realized that they had just VANISHED
At the same time I was looking at "shrinking time" in regards to the Schumann resonance (basically a DAY today is only 16 hrs long even though our clocks still show 24)  The first time I searched I found many University studies on this... so I saves files and links to put it together later

Well several months later I decided to continue...  The articles were gone from the web, No new search I did yeided anything and my saved files and links were all gone.

So just for this post  I googled "Time speeding up"  like I did before...

and found THIS right away...

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Without going into too much scientific explanation, all matter has a frequency, or an electro magnetic “pulse.” Schuman Resonance measures that of earth. When this resonance was first measured in the 1950’s, the earth’s frequency was 7.8 hertz. Apparently recently it has been recorded at 12 hertz. This means that a 24 hour day now feels as if it’s just 16 hours.

http://www.cofcogroup.com/is-time-speeding-up-or-is-it-just-me/

Now nay sayers and psychologists will say "Its just that your getting older and your perception is changing" 

Nope I don't agree and young people have told me the same thing... in fact it was conversations like that with teens that got me started LOOKING

So ignoring the Psychos :P

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Is time speeding up? | Life Energy Designs
www.lifeenergysolutions.com/blog/is-time-speeding-up/
Einstein proved that it isn't, that time is in fact speeding up. ... confirms this, he says that the rotation of the Earth is slowing down, and time is speeding up.

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Schumann Resonance And The Time Speeding Up Phenomenon - In5D
in5d.com/schumann-resonance-and-the-time-speeding-up-phenomenon/
Jul 24, 2016 - Compiled by Gregg Prescott, M.S.. Editor, In5D.com. Time is actually speeding up (or collapsing). For thousands of years the Schumann .

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Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 07, 2017, 05:04:27 AM
I thought I was going crazy in my old age, but maybe not! Hhhmmm

Well your not crazy :D  But it appears you and seeker are still the same from my point of view :D

The fact that shows like the twilight zone covered the same phenomena proves that is isn't only us. Humans however have a pathelogical need to explain the unexplainable so they will come up with all sorts of stuff like the "Mandella Effect" mentioned earlier or "Hundredth monkey effect" postulated on jerry Wills FB page

On the other hand Qauntum Physics is looking at parallel dimensions or the Multiverse where there are endless timeline versions...

What is the multiverse theory?
The multiverse (or meta-universe) is the hypothetical set of infinite or finite possible universes (including the Universe we consistently experience) that together comprise everything that exists: the entirety of space, time, matter, and energy as well as the physical laws and constants that describe them.

What is the theory of parallel universes?
A parallel universe is a hypothetical self-contained separate reality co-existing with one's own. A specific group of parallel universes is called a "multiverse", although this term can also be used to describe the possible parallel universes that constitute reality.

Is there another dimension?
A Universe of 10 Dimensions. When someone mentions “different dimensions,” we tend to think of things like parallel universes – alternate realities that exist parallel to our own, but where things work or happened differently. ... Beyond these three visible dimensions, scientists believe that there may many more.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 07, 2017, 05:08:49 AM
Zorgon, is that the same Exxon we stopped at that night on the way over to see John? and that was when, in 2013? If it is the same store, that metal contraption was not there.

Seeker

Yes that was the same Exxon...
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 07, 2017, 05:21:55 AM
The Quabbalah details the different realms or shadows that are inter-connected and how to access them...

In Roger Zelasny's Chroniciles of Amber he details countless 'shadows' of the true Earth and how a member of the true blood of Amber can move from one to the next by their thoughts...

And we seem to travel in groups,may only be one or two, but for me, right now, my family is right, Z and Sarge appear to be right, but some are not...

 8)  Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: dreb13 on February 07, 2017, 05:47:57 AM
throwing this in here since I just happen to stumble across the topic of "Schumann Resonance" just the other day.  Not really sure what to make of it though.

Humans are Waking Up: For First Time in Recorded History, Schumann Resonance Jumping to 36+

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On 1/31/2017, for the first time in recorded history, the Schumann Resonance has reached frequencies of 36+.

This is a big deal. In 2014, it was considered anomalous for the frequency to have risen from it's usual 7.83 frequency to somewhere in the 15-25 levels.

Here is what it looked like in 2014: http://imgur.com/a/KNaw2

And an article discussing how strange this was back in 2014: http://www.trinfinity8.com/why-is-earths-schumann-resonance-accelerating/

Now it is spiking at well over 30 for the past two days.

Proof: http://imgur.com/a/KUnqq

Site where this info is from (where you can track in real time): https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsosrff.tsu.ru%2F&edit-text=

Then click on "Schumann resonance" on the left. The site needs to be translated.

According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances), the Schumann Resonance "are a set of spectrum peaks in the extremely low frequency (ELF) portion of the Earth's electromagnetic field spectrum. Schumann resonances are global electromagnetic resonances, generated and excited by lightning discharges in the cavity formed by the Earth's surface and the ionosphere."

It has long been suspected that human consciousness can impact the magnetic field and create disturbances in it, particularly during moments of high anxiety, tension and passion: http://sedonanomalies.weebly.com/schumann-resonance.html

According to the above article, "As human beings we have extraordinary potentials we have hardly begun to study much less understand. Creative gifts, intuitions, and talents that are unpredictable or emergent may become stabilized in generations to come. Hopefully, we can learn to understand both our emergence from an essentially electromagnetic environment and facilitate our potential for healing, growth and non-local communication."

Many have been reporting the feeling that time has been speeding up. Could the increased frequencies have something to do with this?

People on YouTube are actively discussing these anomalies: https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=urF_u3DpWw0

For more info on global consciousness and the "science of interconnectivity," here's another good resource: https://www.heartmath.org/research/global-coherence/

It includes a link to the Global Consciousness Project (http://global-mind.org/gcpdot/), which seems to correlate to the increase in the electromagnetic frequencies in the past 48 hours.

As the previously cited article (http://www.trinfinity8.com/why-is-earths-schumann-resonance-accelerating/) states:

"For many years this resonance frequency has hovered at a steady 7.83 Hz with only slight variations. In June 2014 that apparently changed. Monitors at the Russian Space Observing System showed a sudden spike in activity to around 8.5 Hz. Since then, they have recorded days where the Schumann accelerated as fast as 16.5 Hz. (The graph is usually blue with some green, and no white.) At first they thought their equipment was malfunctioning, but later learned the data was accurate. Everyone was asking, what’s causing this intermittent spiking activity?"

"Is the Earth’s frequency speeding up? Since the Schumann frequency is said to be “in tune” with the human brain’s alpha and theta states, this acceleration may be why it often feels like time has sped up and events and changes in our life are happening more rapidly."

"These emerging resonances are naturally correlated to human brainwave activity. So this means, we are changing. Many years ago I was trained in EEG Neurofeedback, so I looked at what these accelerated frequencies might be telling us about human evolutionary change. A 7.83 Hz frequency is an alpha/theta state. Relaxed, yet dreamy—sort of a neutral idling state waiting for something to happen. A 8.5 – 16.5 Hz frequency moves one out of the theta range into more of a full calmer alpha state with faster more alert beta frequencies starting to appear. (This correlates with slowly waking up cognitively). Since the Schumann Resonance has had sudden spikes between 12 – 16.5 Hz (see pic’s white areas), I found this even more interesting. In Neurofeedback, 12-15 Hz is called Sensory-Motor Rhythm frequency (SMR). It is an ideal state of “awakened calm.” Our thought processes are clearer and more focused, yet we are still “in the flow” or “in the know.” In other words, Mother Earth is shifting her vibrational frequency and perhaps so are we. This may be one of many signs that we are AWAKENING."

"Scientist’s report that the Earth’s magnetic field, which can affect the Schumann Resonance, has been slowly weakening for the past 2,000 years and even more so in the last few years. No one really knows why. I was told by a wise old sage from India that the magnetic field of Earth was put in place by the Ancient Ones to block our primordial memories of our true heritage. This was so that souls could learn from the experience of free-will unhampered by memories of the past. He claimed that the magnetic field changes are now loosening those memory blocks and we are raising our consciousness to greater truth. The veil is lifting. The blinders are coming off. If true, it raises even more intriguing questions."

"Whatever is happening, it’s clear that this acceleration may make you feel more tired, exhausted, dizzy, depressed, and even strange as you raise your own frequencies to be more “in tune” with the New Earth. Adaptation is not always an easy process, but keep in mind it’s all part of your own unique AWAKENING."

What are your thoughts on what will happen if we maintain spikes of 30+?

2/2/17 update: we are now in our 3rd straight day of 30+ resonance, and it seems like it is getting more constant / stronger! http://imgur.com/a/UPAVh

https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/5rezz5/humans_are_waking_up_for_first_time_in_recorded/
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Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on February 07, 2017, 06:49:50 AM
Berenstain Bears???  WTF!  They were the stein bears that I remember. 
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 07, 2017, 07:07:35 AM
Some people are more susceptible to time's fluid nature.  You seem to have a more linear mindset, from what I've read in your posts.  That may account for your lack of bizarre experiences in that particular area.  Just a thought.
Either that or I just accept that I may be wrong and don't say that the rest of the universe changed around me instead. ;)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 07, 2017, 07:19:19 AM
So this is NOT a case of mistaken memory... they simply were not built, nor even planned in my previous time line... while in THIS one they were operational in 2012
That's why I don't like that "explanation", as, like the "aliens did it", it's just a kind of "deus ex machina" to solve a problem we do not understand. In this case of "shifting timelines" or "Mandella effect" or whatever we want to call it, to me, it looks like a variation of the "facebook mentality" that makes people want to be the centre of attentions, particularly by implying that everything changed around them but they are still the same.

Also, saying that "I don't have a horse in this race" is not exactly true, when people say that those that have not experienced something like this are, somehow, on a "lower league", like when people say that they "know" things because they are "awaken" or something like that. It's the same as saying that they are special and the others are not.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Somamech on February 07, 2017, 10:16:47 AM
I guess Time on Earth as we perceive it, is nothing more than an effect on decay in the simplest of understandings based on our own Physical Decay.

If we were to take an approach of understanding the problem from a point of knowing that consciousness on Earth is lived through a human body, and we are infinity so to speak... Then we may understand why.

I'm sure everyone here on this site has seen the thread's on ATS about Past Live's.  If not check out Past Live's on Youtube. I mention that in relation to this thread because anyone could be running their own subroutine without even knowing.  Yeah I am saying it's quite possible that we are not directing our program... we still have means to act within it though!  Kinda a no bad no good.. it is what is kinda thing!




 
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on February 07, 2017, 10:53:06 AM
My humble, personal theory is that our reality is being manipulated to avoid some future catastrophe. I view it as a braided rope composed of the necessary timelines or "universes", interwoven to bring us to a specific place in time.

Those of us who have experienced these oddities in time were/are actually sacrificed as collateral damage to achieve the greater good.

Just a theory, but it fits my personal experience.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 07, 2017, 11:42:19 AM
Berenstain Bears???  WTF!  They were the stein bears that I remember.

When I read that article I had the same reaction and had to google it  Sure enough it is now "Berenstain" which doesn't even make any sense. 'stein' is a normal ending for names both in german and jewish names...

But more important  This debate only popped up resently and it appears that many people are saying WTF?  So much so that it is becoming a bigger conspiacy than 9/11

How you spell “The Berenstain Bears” could be proof of parallel universes
http://www.avclub.com/article/how-you-spell-berenstain-bears-could-be-proof-para-223615

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DZnPZ2iXtk

Followed from the video..

The Berenstein Bears: We Are Living in Our Own Parallel Universe

http://www.woodbetween.world/2012/08/the-berenstein-bears-we-are-living-in.html
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 07, 2017, 12:07:43 PM
Either that or I just accept that I may be wrong and don't say that the rest of the universe changed around me instead. ;)

Well that may work for you  but it is sort of an Ostrich reaction :D  Why would you accept that you MAY be wrong, when you can access an immense knowledge base to help discover that you may NOT be wrong and there really is something going on?

That is afterall what we do here... that is why Pegasus was created  to explore alternate answers to what others just accept. ATS once had the same goal.  Star Trek Motto is "Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before."

To just accept that you MAY be wrong instead of boldly going somewhere new is just silly.


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to me, it looks like a variation of the "facebook mentality" that makes people want to be the centre of attentions, particularly by implying that everything changed around them but they are still the same.

There are always the attention seekers. The New Agers are especially in that category with them believing they are Star Seeds and indigo kids etc...  but it is relatively easy sorting out the pretenders and those who are confuddled by an experience they cannot explain and are seeking others who have had similar experiences.

I tend to ignore the ones that are obvious attention seekers, at least the obvious ones.  Those with real experiences have a different way of talking about it that is easy to spot, at least for me anyway. Debunkers that have never had an experience but have the need to tell others they are crazy are worse than the attention seekers :P  because they seem to have a need to prove you are crazy so their little world isn't turned upside down.

Skeptisim is fine, we should always question... but sometimes a fair skeptic needs to consider that just maybe there really IS something more to it.

When it is just facebook people making claims for attention that is one thing, but when scientists start looking at it seriously, it is time to focus on what may be actually happening rather than worry that a few attention seekers with false stories get into the mix

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Also, saying that "I don't have a horse in this race" is not exactly true, when people say that those that have not experienced something like this are, somehow, on a "lower league", like when people say that they "know" things because they are "awaken" or something like that. It's the same as saying that they are special and the others are not.

No I disagree.  If the conversation is about ORANGES and what they taste like, only those who have eaten an orange have "a horse in that race" Those who have never eaten an orange can onlt add what they THINK but cannot offer and real input. It is not a case of "lower league" vs "Hey look at me I am SPECIAL"  That may be the case for the pretenders that hop on the wagon, but since they have never experience it, they too have no horse in this race

Take near death experiences for example. Only those that have actually had one can know with certainty what happened. All the rest can only guess.  But human nature tends to fear what they cannot understand so it is easier to call someone crazy than to have your own sanity shattered by alternative realities


Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on February 07, 2017, 12:11:15 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2528296/Mystery-phantom-islands-solved-Lands-disappeared-ancient-maps-explained-mistakes-mirages-myths.html

Does this glitch in the matrix help explain phantom islands that were once there but now nowhere to be found.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on February 07, 2017, 12:17:09 PM

I'm sure everyone here on this site has seen the thread's on ATS about Past Live's.  If not check out Past Live's on Youtube. I mention that in relation to this thread because anyone could be running their own subroutine without even knowing.  Yeah I am saying it's quite possible that we are not directing our program... we still have means to act within it though!  Kinda a no bad no good.. it is what is kinda thing!


I was thinking about that very thing.   There was a young boy that could remember his past life very clearly.  It consumed him so much that he talked his mother into taking him to his old old home which was on an island not too far from where they lived.

Once they arrived there was many things that were exactly like he described.  However there were some things that did not fit.  Parallel universes would help explain the differences.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-boy-who-lived-before/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wh0OsVtdeE
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on February 07, 2017, 12:29:47 PM
I saw that. That little boy knew all kinds of details about the house and the town.

There was another little boy in the US who was a pilot. I can't remember all the details, but his parents did research and everything he said checked out. He was killed in a dogfight during WWII.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 07, 2017, 12:32:04 PM
Armap, Joe Sixpack has a tendency to muddle thru his day at his sucky job, glad to go home, staring at the ground until he walks in to his safe haven, content to listen to the dribble on tv while drinking a cold beer and not really interested in anything but trying to relax...

Then there is that small percentage of us peeps that are very curious about most things in general and actually pay attention to the world around them; and for some of us there will be some event that not only causes our ears to perk up but will push the envelope to the point that you have to look for answers, have to find a rhyme or reason for what just happened...

some put forth minimal effort and it fades quickly for them; for some of us, there is enough evidence or an event of such magnitude that there is no going back, for you are past the point of no return...

I hit that point just about 40 years ago when myself, my boss, and my best friend watched Darth Vader's superstar destroyer fly over us and then zoom off into the night; the problem was, when we saw what we did, I don't think Star Wars had been released yet and I know damn well that none of us had any clue that anything like that existed outside of a Hollywood movie; so yeah, there was no going back to the mundane world for me after that...

 8)

Seeker

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on February 07, 2017, 12:37:26 PM
Yes. There is a definite before and after.

I haven't been the same person since.

My search for the truth has consumed my life.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 07, 2017, 02:25:24 PM
Well that may work for you  but it is sort of an Ostrich reaction :D
It's not, it's one of the possibilities, one that people that talk about the "Mandella effect" or whatever they may call it appear not to accept.

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Why would you accept that you MAY be wrong, when you can access an immense knowledge base to help discover that you may NOT be wrong and there really is something going on?
Because those two things are not mutually exclusive. The fact that I accept that I may be wrong doesn't mean that I don't look for other possibilities, it means that I don't deny that possibility.

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No I disagree.  If the conversation is about ORANGES and what they taste like, only those who have eaten an orange have "a horse in that race" Those who have never eaten an orange can onlt add what they THINK but cannot offer and real input.
That's not what was said, what was said was that it seems like I have a "more linear mindset", so if people are talking about me, how is that not my race?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 07, 2017, 02:29:28 PM
Armap, Joe Sixpack has a tendency to muddle thru his day at his sucky job, glad to go home, staring at the ground until he walks in to his safe haven, content to listen to the dribble on tv while drinking a cold beer and not really interested in anything but trying to relax...

Then there is that small percentage of us peeps that are very curious about most things in general and actually pay attention to the world around them; and for some of us there will be some event that not only causes our ears to perk up but will push the envelope to the point that you have to look for answers, have to find a rhyme or reason for what just happened...

some put forth minimal effort and it fades quickly for them; for some of us, there is enough evidence or an event of such magnitude that there is no going back, for you are past the point of no return...

I hit that point just about 40 years ago when myself, my boss, and my best friend watched Darth Vader's superstar destroyer fly over us and then zoom off into the night; the problem was, when we saw what we did, I don't think Star Wars had been released yet and I know damn well that none of us had any clue that anything like that existed outside of a Hollywood movie; so yeah, there was no going back to the mundane world for me after that...
And all that is irrelevant to what I was saying. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on February 07, 2017, 02:31:47 PM
Shasta is being kind. I'm not. You are no gymnast, ArMaP. You are a locomotive welded to the rails.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 07, 2017, 02:42:29 PM
Shasta is being kind. I'm not. You are no gymnast, ArMaP. You are a locomotive welded to the rails.
You don't know me. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on February 07, 2017, 02:49:05 PM
You don't know me. :)

Then maybe you should consider dispensing with the old rancid.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 07, 2017, 03:18:53 PM
Then maybe you should consider dispensing with the old rancid.
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.  ???
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on February 07, 2017, 04:05:22 PM
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.  ???

Expand your horizons. Embrace the surreal. Dali did. It made him a household name and no one thought he was crazy.

Interesting, the times my phone chooses to malfunction. It crashed during my first attempt to reply to your message, something it has never done before.

Welcome to the Twilight Zone.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 07, 2017, 05:18:28 PM
Expand your horizons. Embrace the surreal.
I do, just because I think one theory is little likely to be the real explanation doesn't meant that I am looking for a common explanation, although I always look for those first, as they are often disregarded.

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Dali did. It made him a household name and no one thought he was crazy.
Not really, many people did thought he was crazy.

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Interesting, the times my phone chooses to malfunction. It crashed during my first attempt to reply to your message, something it has never done before.
Twice in this thread, when I came back and refreshed the page, my post appeared to move to the previous page. Did it really? I can't really say, as I wasn't looking for references to see what would happen, but it did look like it. :)

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Welcome to the Twilight Zone.
The original black and white version from 1959 or the colour version from 1985? ;)

PS: most of the things you posted about your own experiences sound more like "common" paranormal events than things that could be attributed to a time line glitch, like things that appear out of nowhere and things that would look normal to someone that didn't know that things weren't like that before, like the hose.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on February 07, 2017, 05:52:17 PM
Regarding your statement on Dali, no one with any brains thought he was crackers.

And the rest?

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There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

William Shakespeare

Whoever he may have been, he was a very smart man.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 07, 2017, 06:17:38 PM
Regarding your statement on Dali, no one with any brains thought he was crackers.
Unfortunately, many artists are considered crazy by the ignorant because they don't do things like they are supposed to do.

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There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
True, but I think we need an updated version: :)
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There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy, religion and science.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 07, 2017, 06:38:41 PM
I don't remember which one, but there was a post that reminded me of the movie "Dark City (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_City_(1998_film))".
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on February 07, 2017, 09:49:39 PM
https://www.buzzfeed.com/christopherhudspeth/crazy-examples-of-the-mandela-effect-that-will-make-you-ques?utm_term=.urKqMBrgE#.ijGoG2Zj7

20 Examples Of The Mandela Effect That’ll Make You Believe You’re In A Parallel Universe

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Somamech on February 08, 2017, 08:40:49 AM

I was thinking about that very thing.   There was a young boy that could remember his past life very clearly.  It consumed him so much that he talked his mother into taking him to his old old home which was on an island not too far from where they lived.

Once they arrived there was many things that were exactly like he described.  However there were some things that did not fit.  Parallel universes would help explain the differences.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-boy-who-lived-before/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wh0OsVtdeE

Thanks Mic, you got exactly what I probably didn't convey so well. Good to see you bud.. been way too long huh ?  ;)

I can understand why people would find the past life documentary you posted as hocus pocus. But at the same time unless we studied all these case's personally one on one we really don't know, and that also fall's onto the belief side too.

I personally believe in infinite life and think that in some case's it may explain why some people remember thing's in one manner and have some confusion.

On the other side of things changing where we are directly changing history... Look at say Star War's now.  I have no idea where I am with that and what to expect with Rogue One when I eventually see it. 

I was a kid who went to the Cinema to see Return to The Jedi.  Now in this day and age of Hollyweird rewriting story's instead of making a good share of new one's I sometimes have no idea WTH is going on as I don't have the time to invest into that.   It's why I am so happy the new Stargate Movie never got made... as that was going to Mandella Effected... and SG was a brilliant Linear Program which took the best of Star Trek and made it Better! 

 

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 08, 2017, 03:24:47 PM
20 Examples Of The Mandela Effect That’ll Make You Believe You’re In A Parallel Universe

What IF

It's the other way around?  What if people NOTICING the changes are simply giving the parellel Universe shift a NAME and that name is the "The Mandela Effect" because it is easier for them to write it off as some weird effect of the mind, than to accept it is actually happening?

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on February 09, 2017, 06:27:59 AM
Good to be talking to you Soma!  It has been a while. 

This topic is certainly mind bending that is for sure.  I have what I think is a good memory and the changes mentioned above are perplexing.

So ....  What happened to the matrix?  What caused the glitch?

I remember Dolores Cannon (RIP) talking about the new earth.

Dolores Cannon and the New Earth


Since Dolores Cannon’s book The Three Waves of Volunteers and the New Earth was published in 2011, many people have come forward to share their experiences about being volunteers who have come to Earth at this time to help our planet and its people rise in vibration and frequency in order to move into a higher dimension.

The Three Waves of Volunteers and the New Earth book cover by Dolores CannonMany people also continue to ask what the New Earth is and how can we get there. Dolores wrote, “During my work, I have heard much about everything being composed of energy and the shape and form is only determined by the frequency and vibration. Energy never dies. It only changes form. I have been told that the Earth itself is changing its vibration and frequency, and it is preparing to raise itself into a new dimension. There are countless dimensions surrounding us all the time. We cannot see them because as the vibrations speed up, they are invisible to our eyes, but they still exist, nonetheless.”

Experiencing or moving into the New Earth is really just a matter of consciousness and perception. In other words, if our consciousness and thoughts are fixated on the negativity and violence of what we might call the Old Earth, we are unable to perceive the New Earth, which exists simultaneously in another dimension. It may sound too simple to be true, but the reality is whatever your consciousness and thoughts focus on is what you will experience and perceive. You are creating your reality with your thoughts, and if they’re focused on negative experiences, your consciousness will vibrate at a frequency that is too low to perceive the New Earth


According to Dolores, “’They’ said that we would notice the physical effects more as the frequencies and vibrations increase. Many of us can sense on another level of our being that something is happening.” So even as the frequencies and vibrations increase all around us, it is really up to us to do the constant work of shifting our perception to focus on the positive aspects of our lives to experience what life can be like on the New Earth. A wonderful new reality exists for us if we make the effort.

Many of you have heard the terms co-creator or co-creation with God or the Source. What that implies is we all have a personal responsibility to do our part to learn, grow and focus on all the beautiful things our lives on this planet have to offer. The New Earth is not merely a new place to go that will magically make our lives better. It is a state of mind from a pure focus of intention available to us right here and now.



http://www.dolorescannon.com/blog/dolores-cannon-earth
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Somamech on February 09, 2017, 08:24:09 AM
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Good to be talking to you Soma!  It has been a while. 

Likewise mate!  :)

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Somamech on February 09, 2017, 09:51:46 AM
The Dejavu Effect Should be considered here as well.. as I'm sure it's all interlinked somehow! :)

The amount of time's I've had Dejavu in some of the most insignificant scenario's is mind baffling.  These Dejavu's always happen to me with a less than spectacular moment that include's a location and what someone said or did that was insignificant. I've had this happen in Taiwan before, and as much as I want to be there... I'm still working in Oz and I cannot speak fluent Mandarin.

Dejavu is really odd as sometime's the lost memory can resurface years down the track.

Like I said Dejavu is Odd when bought into this discussion, as it could be seen as a projection when one was looking forward and there is nothing to it.  It could be seen as a projection where you created a reality years past to experience. Or you were shown something that didn't make sense of at the time and some or most of your memory wiped. Honestly I don't know.

I do know I have had time's where I've thought to myself during mundane situations that this has happened before on more time's than I care to recall. 

Timelines   ???  weird huh!









 

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on February 09, 2017, 11:21:01 AM

Dejavu all over again!
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 09, 2017, 01:43:33 PM
So ....  What happened to the matrix?  What caused the glitch?

"back to the Future" covered it nicely...

You go back in time and cause one small change and it has ripples trhough time

The old concept  You go back in time and kill your father before you are born, do you cease to exist? If so you would not be born to go back in time and kill your father

In BTTF they simply made the changes create a NEW timeline...

So IF there are time travellers in the future, it is possible we are seeing effects of this

The SMALL stuff  like the Berenstein/Berenstain Bears appear to be experienced by many if not most people... while the major events seem to affect only a few

As Seeker said we seem to travel in groups...  some things change for everyone, some for a small group and some just for the individual.

IF we are going to assume that in the future they will have Time Travel, then this is a very good proof of it. We already have the Looking Glass technolgy that allows us to see POSSIBLE futures

Everything we do in life leads to different possible futures. Say you are walking down an alley... at the end you can turn right or left or turn around and go back the way you came...  That gives three possible futures...  YOU may not be important to Time at that moment  but lets say if you turned left you ran into hodlums and were killed...  So what ever you would have done in life will not happen

Star Trek did a good one on that with McCoy going back into the past and saved a woman from being killed.  That made their whole way of life vanish  No more starship... 

It is one of the first "Stargates" :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uKWpWkcpdM
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 09, 2017, 01:47:59 PM
One thought is that the Glitch started with the rift created bt the Philadelphia Experiment

That one is a tricky one  because in this reality the Eldrige survived

But if they did cause the rift, perhaps we don't have the correct history to analyse, because the rift changed the timeline  :P

Got a headache yet?

There was one version of the story in a movie where they fixed it by doing NOTHING at a certain point  I need to find that film
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 09, 2017, 02:23:39 PM
They also did one in either the new twilight zone series or the outer limits, just watched it this summer right after my surgery, can't remember which program it was now; but this lady scientist had developed a time portal and was going back in time and selectively murdering serial killers and rapists,etc., and it showed the paradox the cops were having to try to deal with as history and their leads in the case disappeared in front of their eyes...
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Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 09, 2017, 02:35:35 PM
The Dejavu Effect Should be considered here as well.. as I'm sure it's all interlinked somehow! :)
There was a time when I had relatively frequent deja vu, so I decided to look at them with more care, and I started noticing small differences between those occasions and the previous, so while they were very similar situations they weren't exactly the same.

I haven't had a real deja vu since then.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 10, 2017, 05:17:13 AM
Zorgon, don't forget about this here:

Jeff Rense & William Tompkins - The Moon is an Alien Command Center (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum2/index.php?topic=9886.msg130338#msg130338)

and there is this from exopolitics

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Retired aerospace engineer, William Tompkins, has just given his most detailed account yet about the operations of secret space programs on the September 27 episode of Cosmic Disclosure. Many of Tompkins’ revelations corroborate the earlier testimony of the show’s primary whistleblower, Corey Goode, who first publicly came forward in late 2014.

Previously, Tompkins has described in his book, Selected by Extraterrestrials, and in subsequent interviews, his involvement in two space programs. First came his assignment in intelligence operations on a German/Nazi led secret space program during the World War II, much of which was relocated to Antarctica. This space program evolved into what Goode later described as the “Dark Fleet.”

After the War, Tompkins became directly involved in the development of a U.S. Navy secret space program called “Solar Warden,” where he provided the early draft designs for kilometers long spacecraft and non-terrestrial bases, while working at the Douglas Aircraft Company from 1951 to 1963. Solar Warden, according to Tompkins, became operational in the early 1980s.

Tompkins’s role in these space programs is supported by a number of documents provided in Selected by Extraterrestrials, and others provided in a March 2016 interview. In addition, FOIA documents have just been made available (to be described in an upcoming article), which confirm key details about Tompkins involvement in a Navy led espionage program aimed at infiltration of Nazi antigravity research projects during World War II.
Navy League Board Meeting (2)

Minutes of Meeting discussing Special Projects Committee. Click to Enlarge

Tompkins’ revelations about the current operations of secret space programs derive from two periods in his life. First is his time at the helm of the Rogue Valley (Medford), Oregon chapter of the U.S. Navy League from 1985 to 1999. During this period, he was given briefings about operations of secret space programs and extraterrestrial life, and shared some of this information through a “Special Projects Committee”; with retired Navy, Marine and USAF officers and their children.

Corroboration for Tompkins’ statements about the Navy League Special Projects Committee comes both from related documents and two retired Navy officers who confirmed key aspects of his testimony. Furthermore, Tompkins says that Admiral Hugh Webster, who ran the U.S. Navy League chapter in San Diego and was an executive officer for it nationally, was initially briefed about the Navy’s secret space program by Tompkins in 1985. Webster subsequently began a similar operation in San Diego, and became part of the Navy’s covert operations.

The second period in which Tompkins learned about the operational details of the Navy’s secret space program began in 2000, when he moved to San Diego, giving him more opportunities to work directly with Webster. It was Admiral Webster who gave Tompkins permission to write his autobiography and reveal all he knew about the Navy’s secret space program.

Tompkins has further disclosed that he is a participant in the Navy’s annual “West” meetings in San Diego, where leading aerospace companies come together to share their research and development findings. Among the purposes of these meetings is the goal of finding the latest technologies that may be of use for the Navy’s secret space program.

Tompkins says that he has attended all of these Navy West meetings since the year 2000, and plans to attend again in 2017 because he still has clearance to be present at classified meetings. Tompkins is currently 93, with a sharp mind, excellent memory and still physically healthy. It would be fair to say that he is considered to be a “wise elder” among those running current operations with the Navy’s secret space program.

Given Tompkins’ background, and continuing involvement with the Navy’s Solar Warden program, his statements about its current operations bear special significance.

These are some of the highlights of what he revealed during his Gaia TV interview.

Thousands, thousands, not just a few, thousands of people have joined the Navy here in the United States. They joined the Space Navy. They signed up for a 20-year tour. So these folks, men and women, were given a lot of examinations and a lot of information on what they were going to need.

Many of them went to the Moon, our Moon, and facilities there and got checked out and organized and established where is the best place they’re going to go, what their criteria is going to be, what major area they’re going to develop, like what class in the university. And then they get sent to a Mars facility for a short time.

Tompkins’ comments here are especially noteworthy. They corroborate the testimony of Goode, who asserted that there are thousands of personnel involved in the Navy’s secret space program. He and another alleged whistleblower, Randy Cramer, spoke of an operations center on the Moon called Lunar Operations Command, and both claim they were taken there in 1987 for their formal inductions.

lunar-operations-command

During his interview, Tompkins describes how secret space program personnel are assigned after the induction:

And then they get assigned to a specific base. And they work for a short time in the base before they’re assigned a naval cruiser, or a naval attack vehicle, or even a naval spacecraft carrier, which are one, two, and four kilometer long class. And we have eight of those battle groups out there. So there’s plenty of room for new people to come aboard….

The above statement corroborates what Goode claims he underwent after his induction at Lunar Operations Center. He was assigned to the research vessel, the Arnold Sommerfeld, where he spent six years performing a number of science and exploratory missions in the solar system.

Tompkins next corroborates Goode and Cramer’s claims, along with a third whistleblower, Michael Relfe, about what happened at the end of their 20 and back programs:

So at the end of the 20 years, they have an option for another 20 years. They could go for another 20 years. Or they have the option to come back to Earth where they were born and where they entered the Navy.

And then they make this decision they want to come back. So they age regress. They’re now 20 years older than when they joined the Space Navy, okay? And so they take several weeks or several months, and they reverse their age back to 21 when they joined the Navy….

And now, during that several weeks returning, their minds, not painfully, but their minds are played with to where 90.99 [likely meant to say 99.99 percent] of their memory for the last 20 years out in space is removed.

In the book, Insiders Reveal Secret Space Programs and Extraterrestrial Alliances, a chapter is devoted to a comparative study of the testimonies of Goode, Cramer and Relfe. Tompkins’ testimony adds a significant level of credibility to what each of these individuals had to say about how they were treated at the end of their secret space program 20 year tours of duty.

Before the close of the interview, Tompkins revealed his knowledge about a corporate run space program that emerged to rival the Navy’s Solar Warden program:

But the corporations, at the same time they were doing the military mission programs, they were doing other programs which could possibly allow them to nullify the space programs of the military, like Solar Warden.

And these people, then, utilizing all the advances in space systems, military wise, developed the capability to move off the planet and mine materials on other planets in the solar system and/or continue on out into the galaxy through the 12 closest stars, Alpha Centauri being the first, and mining or extracting materials, or whatever, and making money.

This same group of top corporate people of all these companies that are doing the jobs, that they are getting paid for, were paralleling the space missions for industrialization – making money… We’ve got corporate operations operating parallel to missions to solar system planets and other stars’ planets, doing the same thing.

Tompkins testimony here corroborates what Goode revealed in early 2015; that there is a corporate run space program he called the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate. Previously, in April 2014, Cramer claims he was assigned to a Mars military base from 1987 to 2004, to protect five corporate run colonies there he described as the Mars Colony Corporation. Similarly, Relfe says that during his time on Mars, from 1976 to 1996, he was part of a military operation to protect Mars colonies.

Tour Flyer SSPsBill Tompkins’ detailed knowledge of current operations of the Navy’s secret space program, a corporate run program, and his willingness to now relate this information is a significant development for all who have been closely following his testimony. It is a major scoop for Cosmic Disclosure that Tompkins chose to reveal his knowledge there first, and it certainly helps substantiate the earlier testimony of Goode and others concerning Solar Warden and parallel secret space program operations.

[Note: To watch William Tompkins on Cosmic Disclosure, click here. For transcript click here.]

© Michael E. Salla, Ph.D. Copyright Notice

Announcement: Documents and whistleblowers revealing the creation of antigravity spacecraft belonging U.S. secret space programs, with special reference to the testimony of William Tompkins, will be presented in upcoming lectures and workshops in Los Angeles (Oct 8-9) and San Francisco (Oct 14 & 16) by best-selling Amazon.com author Dr Michael Salla. More info here.
Further Reading

    Secret History of RAND Corporation in Reverse Engineering Antigravity UFOs
    RAND Corporation Part of Alien Proxy War Involving USAF & Navy Secret Space Programs
    Gene Roddenberry Based Star Trek on Secret US Navy Space Fleet
    Navy Admiral oversaw 29 Spies in Nazi Germany & started US Secret Space Program
    US Navy League Conducted Extraterrestrial Special Projects from 1985 to 1999
    US Navy Spies Learned of Nazi Alliance with Reptilian Extraterrestrials during WWII

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Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Somamech on February 10, 2017, 08:58:10 AM
There was a time when I had relatively frequent deja vu, so I decided to look at them with more care, and I started noticing small differences between those occasions and the previous, so while they were very similar situations they weren't exactly the same.

I haven't had a real deja vu since then.
That is quite interesting mate!

The last Dejavu that happened to me where I thought WTF was in Taiwan. It was a Mundane situation...shrugged it off as nothing and thought hmm thats odd. What was odd is that in retrospect is I cannot speak Taiwanese Mandarin fluently, or live there on a permanent basis. 

In the above Dejavu I had no idea i would have or create that dejavu.

I can understand self created Dejavu's.. And thats another whole worm farm.  As that would state either some future knowledge or self created projection.  Or many other scenario's which are honestly not researched or understood
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Somamech on February 10, 2017, 09:08:00 AM
They also did one in either the new twilight zone series or the outer limits, just watched it this summer right after my surgery, can't remember which program it was now; but this lady scientist had developed a time portal and was going back in time and selectively murdering serial killers and rapists,etc., and it showed the paradox the cops were having to try to deal with as history and their leads in the case disappeared in front of their eyes...
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Seeker

Hey good to see you Seeker!  ;D

Do you ever recall seeing a Twilight Zone episode in the 1980's which was about what happens between time as we know it?  If I recall correctly the people working between time were in Blue Leotard suits... Yes it's a funny thought.. but that is how I recall that episode as wee kid growing up in the 80's LOL

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 10, 2017, 11:21:28 AM
Hey good to see you Seeker!  ;D

Do you ever recall seeing a Twilight Zone episode in the 1980's which was about what happens between time as we know it?

yeah I posted that one on page 2


"A Matter of Minutes"
The Twilight Zone episode


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Matter_of_Minutes

Closing narration
"Time, a handy fiction to explain why everything doesn't happen all at once. Or maybe we're the fiction, moving minute by minute...through the Twilight Zone.”

Note
This episode is based on the short story "Yesterday Was Monday", by Theodore Sturgeon first published in June 1941. It is also similar in concept to the Stephen King novella The Langoliers.


Yes blue jump suits except the forman :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lnyJVauDpo
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Pimander on February 10, 2017, 12:00:04 PM
Unfortunately, many artists are considered crazy by the ignorant because they don't do things like they are supposed to do.
I know several artists and I'd say they are borderline crazy.  Genius and madness are close bedfellows.

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Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on February 10, 2017, 06:02:24 PM
If this post needs to be moved then please do so Seeker or Zorgon

I've come across a ton of youtubes on the Mandela effect, most of which I have viewed.

One of the effects is on a program I never watched Sex in the City, I tend to go for UFO Hunters or Paranormal Witness, along those lines, interesting shows.

Now forgive me if I am wrong but I always thought the title of the show above was Sex in the City.

Imagine my surprise when I was surfing through my cable channels and I noticed Sex And the City.

Mmmh interesting.  Maybe I got it wrong, as I said I never watched it, but something seems to be going on or is amiss.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 10, 2017, 06:18:37 PM
I never watched it either, but the name has always been "Sex and the city", as I used to see it advertised.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 10, 2017, 06:44:01 PM
I never watched it either, but the name has always been "Sex and the city", as I used to see it advertised.
I remember seeing adverts for it, and I do believe it was for sex and, not sex in...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on February 10, 2017, 09:58:20 PM
I dont know guys; I will just post this little yt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7BjyMBf1SM
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 11, 2017, 01:34:08 AM
It was Sex IN the city for me...

That video is PERFECT

Calling it the mandella Effeect because one person named it that based on her experience is all well and good  BUT it doesn't help us find the CAUSE of this Mandella Effect

What IS interesting is that so many people are becoming aware that there IS an effect.

I suppose though it willmake it harder to research, because all the people with no life :P will jump in and claim it happened to them and soon it will be as bad as the UFO stuff is today


So I better start looking for solid cases before that happens :D

Thanks for that video... yet another example of a small change effecting so many

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on February 11, 2017, 03:57:56 AM
I'm starting to question myself again and again all the time Zorgon, thanks.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 11, 2017, 04:43:32 AM
Proof is in the pudding, right? Going to have to dig on this one; but I am also willing to accept that it might be my memory of this one that is flawed, because, as far as I can remember, I never watched the program, just remembered the ads for it; I just don't watch much television... always been too busy working until now, and I still don't watch but very little ;D

The Schumann resonance is increasing, and everything is based on vibration/motion, all the way down to the sub-atomic level; so, what is speeding/increasing the rate? Perhaps we need to set up a tone generator set at 432 Hz and see if it affects our personal space around it...

It could also be related to all those atomic detonations, for it has been suggested that an atomic blast causes a rip in the fabric of space/time itself...

Instead of silly hu-mons opening Pandora's box, we may have blown the lid off of it

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on February 11, 2017, 05:07:51 AM
Sometimes I feel I drift between two or more parallel realities seeker, drives me nuts; my cat must go with me though, because he hasn't disappeared yet.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 11, 2017, 06:32:06 AM
I dont know guys; I will just post this little yt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7BjyMBf1SM

To me it sounds that most of the times they say "sex and the city", only a few sounded like "sex in the city", but I suppose that's normal, as the sound for either is very similar.

So, if there was a change, when did it occurred?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 11, 2017, 06:33:15 AM
Calling it the mandella Effeect because one person named it that based on her experience is all well and good  BUT it doesn't help us find the CAUSE of this Mandella Effect
Calling it anything else doesn't help either.

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I suppose though it willmake it harder to research, because all the people with no life :P will jump in and claim it happened to them and soon it will be as bad as the UFO stuff is today
Too late for that, it already happened. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 11, 2017, 06:35:28 AM
Proof is in the pudding, right? Going to have to dig on this one; but I am also willing to accept that it might be my memory of this one that is flawed, because, as far as I can remember, I never watched the program, just remembered the ads for it; I just don't watch much television... always been too busy working until now, and I still don't watch but very little ;D
That's exactly the situation I'm in, the difference is that I remember both the original title ("sex and the city") and the Portuguese version ("sexo e a cidade"), which is a direct translation of "sex and the city".
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on February 11, 2017, 06:36:57 AM
On Facebook, Zorgon and I participated in a convo about the Mandela Effect recently.
And in my post I commented on a collectible IronMan book that I knew I had and it had been given to me by my son as a birthday present.
Which he had no recollection at all of its existence or that fact that he had given it to me.
I had it displayed on my bookcase, cover out for several years and I noticed some weeks ago that it had gone poof, gone, disappeared.
No one could remember its existence. Only me...
So when the topic came up on Facebook, I made mention of it.....

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Well last night, it suddenly reappeared. Poof....

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Seems it had been there all the time, just laying face down with several other Marvel books I had and my wife, while sitting there in my office, discussing repainting the quest room, started reading the binders of the books that were laying down.
And there it was. I must have handled that stack of books several times over these last weeks and never once did it occur to me to LOOK at the books I was handling.
So no Mandela effect for me....
Not saying others haven't experience the effect, but you can take Rock off that list.

 ;) ;D 8)
Rock
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on February 11, 2017, 10:12:58 AM
I, too, remember it being "Sex In the City".
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 11, 2017, 10:17:12 AM
On Facebook, Zorgon and I participated in a convo about the Mandela Effect recently.
I saw that. :)

One question: is your son an Iron Man fan or a general comics fan?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on February 11, 2017, 10:21:47 AM
I saw that. :)

One question: is your son an Iron Man fan or a general comics fan?

That was my first thought, that a child had appropriated it.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 11, 2017, 10:22:25 AM
That was my first thought, that a child had appropriated it.
That's not what I'm thinking. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on February 11, 2017, 10:23:13 AM
That's not what I'm thinking. :)

Okay. So what are you thinking?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: rdunk on February 11, 2017, 10:31:29 AM
And the plot thickens..........

With wiki, it is "Sex and the City" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_the_City

And others:

https://www.youtube.com/show/sexandthecity

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0159206/

http://www.tv.com/shows/sex-and-the-city/

http://www.hbo.com/sex-and-the-city/index.html

https://www.amazon.com/Sex-City-Season-1/dp/B015EV84PC

http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/sex-and-the-city/100391

http://www.eonline.com/photos/8978/tv-s-most-naked-shows/289332

http://www.sidereel.com/tv-shows/sex-and-the-city

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2010/may/23/sex-and-the-city-film-terrible

https://www.directv.com/tv/Sex-and-the-City-UjAyQUwvT1NJTkk9

And much etc!!   ;D

Even when I search on Sex "in" the City, everything comes up Sex "and" the
City!

The video comment posted earlier with all "in's" does seem to push it the other way, but it certainly is not on the net that way, or so it seems.  :o :o

But with this show being based upon a book with the same title - "Sex AND the City" - ................!!!

.......and I have never watched this show either!!!  :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 11, 2017, 11:14:36 AM
And the plot thickens..........
With wiki, it is "Sex and the City" -

THAT is the thing with timeline shifts

The MEMORY is strong...  but the change effects everything physical

Like the Sundial 'gear' on the Rovers... Wether that gear things is on that post makes no difference to anything, in fact it serves no function, but with YEARS of pouring over mars photos, anyone that searched for anomalies in the rover photos had that sundial burned into their subconscious

So when Ted first mentioned it, I thought " Well of course it is a straight post, seen that thing thousands of times"

So I go check my files  and EVERY picture I have now shows the gear

So while many of us clearly remember Sex IN the City or BerenSTEIN Bears, any search will yield Sex AND the City and BerenSTAIN Bears.

These little glitches seem to effect mass amounts of people  so as Seeker said we move in groups. The bigger the shift. the fewer people in that group

Years ago on ATS when I was looking into the 'Shrinking Time' phenomena where a day is now only 16 hours while our clocks still show 24, I found all sorts of articles about people having major shifts. The Universities had studies on the shrinking time

So I files all the papers and links preparing to do work on it.

I then got distracted with the John Lear moon thread and put it all on th back burner

When I got back to it... it was ALL GONE  The files I had saved  GONE, the studies online?  GONE  The posts on ATS? couldn't find them

So TODAY (Just now) I do the search

First thing pops up

About 99,600,000 results (0.56 seconds)

The day has only 16 hours. I can feel that!Don't you?And there is .
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread775165/pg1

LOL the second post is a typical ATS NAYSAYER   :P I HAT that place now :P

The Earth Is Spinning Faster And The Day Has 16 Hours Not 24 Hours ...
http://www.naturalhealingmagazine.com/is-spinning/

  I still do not see the the University studys returned but do a google search on "Time Speeding Up (https://www.google.com/search?q=time+speeding+up&rlz=1C1AOHY_enUS708US708&oq=time+speeding+up&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i59j0l4.1211j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)"

It has always been said that as you get older time seems to get shorter. While this IS true to a point, it was when young people started feeling it that I started looking in to it


Now YOU being Christian should be all over this :P

Why Because...

The Quickening: Is Time Accelerating? - Eternal Productions
http://www.eternal-productions.org/PDFS/The%20Quickening.pdf
The pace of life has certainly increased, but is time speeding up? Recently, scientists ... If an acceleration of time is occurring, is it anticipated in the Bible?

"And Those Days Shall Be Shortened" - Judeo Christian Church
http://judeochristianchurch.com/and-those-days-shall-be-shortened/
Jan 9, 2013 - What happened in the Bible that points to this point in time? In Isaiah we are told of ... 0.43 km/s or speed it up to 30.2 km/s. We can already get ...

So while I cannot yet find those university studies  it seems the religious site are all over this
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on February 11, 2017, 11:21:57 AM
I, too, remember it being "Sex In the City".

Me also,   :o.  Weird
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 11, 2017, 11:42:10 AM
Okay. So what are you thinking?
I'm thinking that, if Sgt.Rocknroll's son is not a Iron Man or comics fan then it may have easily forgotten about giving the book to his father, so the "missing" book was only a result of his son forgetting about it and Sgt.Rocknroll not seeing it. Sgt.Rocknroll's recollection was correct in this case, as he was right in remembering that he had the book.

If Sgt.Rocknroll's son is an Iron Man fan then my theory is rubbish. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on February 11, 2017, 11:43:20 AM
Question, bear with me on this -

What kinds of machines generate electromagnetic fields?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 11, 2017, 12:12:27 PM
The MEMORY is strong...  but the change effects everything physical
The memory is strong but may be wrong. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 11, 2017, 12:13:15 PM
Question, bear with me on this -

What kinds of machines generate electromagnetic fields?
All electric machines or mechanical machines with magnets and metal parts.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on February 11, 2017, 01:13:24 PM
I saw that. :)

One question: is your son an Iron Man fan or a general comics fan?

General fan, I'm the comic nut!  ;D

Edit: after reading the rest of the posts, he's just as much into comics as I am. He's given me several items related to comics. So he should have remembered. But it was with his old girlfriend and he may have put out of his mind.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 11, 2017, 02:58:40 PM
Question, bear with me on this -
What kinds of machines generate electromagnetic fields?

Anything and everthing using electricity generates an EM field.  It is a mtter of STRENGTH of that field that is important

If you live under power lines you can light up a fluorescent tube with your hand (you are the 'ground' connection :D )

A proper UFO nee Flying saucer type craft whether ours or theirs generates a very powerful field that can trigger the old balarms at a nuke base, stop a car, etc

An Em field strong enough to disturb the matrix? As far as I know, we don't have anything that strong  though who knows what they have at Area 51 :P

The EM field around a flying saucer is why you cannot get a clear photo of one when it is powered up :P and it is what makes many of our planes STEALTHY  by applying EM fields to a special 'coating' on the plane (invented by Dr Joe Resnick, patent stolen by the US Government for the fee of $1.00)

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 11, 2017, 02:59:30 PM
Me also,   :o.  Weird

Perhaps all those attached to Pegasus travel in the same group :D
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 11, 2017, 03:03:32 PM
The memory is strong but may be wrong. :)

One question  WHY do you think it may be wrong?  To me it makes more sense that when so many people have so many clear memories that it becomes time to search for a real answer, not just assume they are having faulty memories, are delusional or are crazy...

Most scientific discoveries have happened because people dare to look beyond what is the accepted answer  Scientists told the Wright Brothers that flying is not posible :P

"The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible." Arthur C Clarke
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 11, 2017, 04:50:56 PM
One question  WHY do you think it may be wrong?
Because it's possible. :)

We know that people, sometimes, have memory lapses, either forgetting something or misremembering something.

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To me it makes more sense that when so many people have so many clear memories that it becomes time to search for a real answer, not just assume they are having faulty memories, are delusional or are crazy...
In this "Mandela effect" case, what we see just a yes/no situation. When we ask someone "what was the name of that show, was it 'sex and the city' or 'sex in the city'?" we are already presenting them the possible answers, limiting their answers (if they don't really remember). Some people, when faced with two choices always choose the last one they heard, so someone like that, when hearing the above question would choose the second choice, 'sex in the city'. Also, many people (or most, I haven't really make a statistic, even informal), when asking something to other people present the choice they think are right in the end, maybe because they know (even without noticing) that other people tend to choose the last option.

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Most scientific discoveries have happened because people dare to look beyond what is the accepted answer  Scientists told the Wright Brothers that flying is not posible :P
Saying that the universe changed around them is not really looking for an answer, as they are choosing something completely unproven. Also, accepting unproven theories while disregarding known facts is not the best way of making scientific discoveries, as science should be based on facts.

PS: if scientists at the time told the Wright brothers that flying was not possible then they didn't know about the previous work from other people, in which the Wright brothers based their work, like Otto Lilienthal, so those scientists were the ones ignoring the facts.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 11, 2017, 04:59:04 PM

PS: if scientists at the time told the Wright brothers that flying was not possible then they didn't know about the previous work from other people, in which the Wright brothers based their work, like Otto Lilienthal, so those scientists were the ones ignoring the facts.
Sounds like the majority of scientists and especially archeologists in general  ::)

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Phedre on February 12, 2017, 02:16:51 PM

It would appear to me that the Mandela Effect has 2  "in common " things going for it. 1. It is personal 2. It is random.

My Mandela Experience(sorry) was Mandela him self, I read and heard on the radio, he had died in prison. It did make an impression on me. My utter Shock was when it was announced he was the leader of South Africa. It  made me feel like I was falling from a great height. After awhile, I chalked it up to my feeble mind.  Then as I did my forum browsing. The same experience started to pop up a very times, from others. It made me feel better, that I was not alone, with the "Experience", but still one with no explanation? :o 

Is it an Experience attached to the person, or the "event" or both? It seems to be an "occurrence "  enough to have it's own label,  Mandela Effect, even without explanation.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 12, 2017, 02:31:32 PM
It would appear to me that the Mandela Effect has 2  "in common " things going for it. 1. It is personal 2. It is random.

My Mandela Experience(sorry) was Mandela him self, I read and heard on the radio, he had died in prison. It did make an impression on me. My utter Shock was when it was announced he was the leader of South Africa. It  made me feel like I was falling from a great height. After awhile, I chalked it up to my feeble mind.  Then as I did my forum browsing. The same experience started to pop up a very times, from others. It made me feel better, that I was not alone, with the "Experience", but still one with no explanation? :o 

Is it an Experience attached to the person, or the "event" or both? It seems to be an "occurrence "  enough to have it's own label,  Mandela Effect, even without explanation.
It appears to be a tad bit of both, Phedre;from my own personal experiences and beliefs, we do travel together in "soul" groups, and it does appear that when something wiggles in the continuum, we experience the same change; now the thing is, everything we have noticed that catches our attention is a periphery event not tied directly to us,and I wonder just what we would notice if something directly affecting us did occur, or if we could notice it; paradox at work would probably also be pulled out of our memory

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Pimander on February 12, 2017, 02:51:04 PM
If you mainly rely on hearing the title of the show then "Sex and the City" sounds just like "Sex in the City".  If you ignore the credits and title text then how would you remember what the show was really called?  Especially rdunk who never watched it. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Phedre on February 12, 2017, 03:47:40 PM

Hi Seeker, I can relate to what you are saying, for the most part. :) I'm old, my accelerated aging, has come to my direct attention and I notice my new aches and pains. By the same token, my skin Dr. Tells me I am growing what my skin Dr calls "barnacles" comes under the same category as aging, but I was totally unaware of these "new arrivals"  until she pointed them out to me.

So I would say I am aware of just so much. Who knows what flys around me in the soup of life, that is never noticed, or perceived.  But it is certainly exciting to think about catching on to something once in awhile!
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on February 12, 2017, 05:36:38 PM
Here is another one that I know wasn't right, six people in the JFK assassination car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STItwSqMydk
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 12, 2017, 05:49:19 PM
Here is another one that I know wasn't right, six people in the JFK assassination car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STItwSqMydk
I have to disagree on that one, Biggles; 2 secret service agents, John and Missus Connally, Jackie and John Kennedy; I have a copy of the original film footage squirreled back and have watched it for far too many times...

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 12, 2017, 06:00:59 PM
I have to disagree on that one, Biggles; 2 secret service agents, John and Missus Connally, Jackie and John Kennedy; I have a copy of the original film footage squirreled back and have watched it for far too many times...
That's why I said some posts back that it was already too late to research this, now everybody's excuse is the "Mandela effect".
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on February 13, 2017, 10:47:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=328&v=fvoyoP4UUw0

[youtube]fvoyoP4UUw0[/youtube]


1. Nelson Mandela
2. The Village people
3. Wizard of Oz the scarecrow
4. Snow white line
5. The back of the eye sockets
6. Tony the tiger
7. JC Penney
8. Hitler’s eye color
9. Sally Field Quote
10. Chuck E. cheese
11. Desi Arnaz
12. Procter and Gamble
13. Mr. Rogers Neighborhood
14. Interview with The Vampire
15. Mona Lisa
16. The Home Depot
17. The Berenstain Bears
18. Staples
19. Gene Wilder
20. I love lucy’s
21. Oreos
22. Seth Macfarlen
23. Wizard of Oz Quote
24. jfk
25. Cheez it
26. Oscar Mayer
27. C3PO
28. Wolkswagen
29. Volvo
30. Ford
31. Fruit loops
32. Skechers. t
33. Zsa Zsa Gabor
34. Silence of the lambs
35. Cup O Noodles
36. Whiteout
37. Fruit of the Loom
38. Katy Perry
39. Johnny walker
40. Gaddafi
41. Sally Fields’
42. Johnny quest
43. folgers
44. Fidel Castro
45. Mickey mouse No longer has suspenders
46. O’Reily Auto Parts
47. Queen
48. Beam me up, Scotty
49. Gortons
50. Mike N Ikes 
51. Dr. Doolittle
52. Depends
53. Elliot’s
54. Ghandi
55. Vlassic
56. Eddy’s
57. Penzoil
58. Smokey the Bear
59. Pikachu’s tail
60. Lay-Z-Boy
61. Kit-Kat
62. Inspector Gadget
63. Curious Jorge
64. Sinbad
65. Starwars line,
66. Bill Nye
67. monopoly man
68. Haley’s Comet 
69. Australia
70. Spagetti - o’s
71. Tank man
72. Vick’s Vaporub
73. Herbal Essence
74. Coke Zero
75. Marilyn Monroe
76. PhilCollins’
77. Moses
78. Oxy Clean
79. Sex in The City
80. Cuba
81. Lion and wolf
82. Chic-fil-A or Chik-
83.  Jiffy
84. Febreze 
85. Double Bubble
86. Field of dreams
87. Forest Gump line
88. Barbie world
89. CliffNotes
90. Thanksgiving 
91. Harry Houdini
92. Daylight Savings
93. XBOX logo
94. Looney Toons
95. The adams family
96. Jaws
97. Chevron
98. Haines
99. Pixi Stix
100. Reddi whip



Most of these are not the way I remember them.  There are few that don't fit.  They say everyone will be different.

Beam me up Scotty never existed......WTF?????????????? 8)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 13, 2017, 10:58:15 AM
I do believe I still have a vcr tape of Star Trek with "Beam me up, Scotty" on it; at one time had every episode on VHS, will have to see if my son still has all of them along with all the Dr Who episodes from John Pertwee thru Peter Davidson  8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on February 13, 2017, 11:00:17 AM
What about JCPenny?  Here are two links which show both.  This is really getting weird.

https://www.occultspace.com/mandela-effect-residual-proof-jcpenney-changed-from-jcpenny-remembered-jcpenny-thought-going-crazy-when-found-always-jcpenney-knew-that-wasnt-true-finally....   But wtf is this?


https://www.google.com/search?q=JCPENNEY&espv=2&biw=1242&bih=580&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj2zcvx_ovSAhVnxFQKHRLIBCwQ_AUICSgE#imgrc=91GGSu8tSivVHM:



Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on February 13, 2017, 01:26:20 PM
That's a good one Mic, and they keep on coming.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 13, 2017, 01:57:16 PM
What about JCPenny?  Here are two links which show both.  This is really getting weird.

WOW  I was just logging off when I saw this... WTF? i called my Ex in Texas and asked her  She spelled it JCPenney (but is 100% positive it is BerenSTEIN not STAIN as she read those books to our kids)  I need to find those books in my daughters storage

I also spotted FROOT LOOPS vs FRUIT LOOPS  and Kit-Kat  vs KitKat


ARGGGG My head hurts  literally  I need some air
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 13, 2017, 02:05:58 PM
Does anyone have any of the old JCPenny catalogs laying around?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on February 14, 2017, 05:48:04 AM
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/jcpennymandelaeffect-148636077284nkg_zpsehyizu7y.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/jcpennymandelaeffect-148636077284nkg_zpsehyizu7y.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 14, 2017, 06:44:25 AM
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/jcpennymandelaeffect-148636077284nkg_zpsehyizu7y.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/jcpennymandelaeffect-148636077284nkg_zpsehyizu7y.jpg.html)
I wouldn't trust a photo of a shop without identifying the shop, as anyone can hang a sign on their shop.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on February 14, 2017, 09:09:27 AM
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/jcpennymandelaeffect-148636077284nkg_zpsehyizu7y.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/jcpennymandelaeffect-148636077284nkg_zpsehyizu7y.jpg.html)

 :o :o :o

I routinely drive by a JC Penney warehouse here and it's spelled as I've spelled it here in my post.

Holy cow.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 14, 2017, 02:30:46 PM
I remember it being J C Penny; have several people looking to see if they still have any J C Penny catalogs laying around...

and what about Radio Shack? I distinctly remembering them going bankrupt and announcing their stores were going to be history...but everywhere I look I see Radio Shack stores wide open and thriving??? ???

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on February 14, 2017, 03:42:00 PM
Radio Shack did go bankrupt I believe.

This video of the simpson's has clips of items and  clips from movies the way I remember them.

This is really getting complex.  Why would the Simpson's be immune from the effects?????? :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhqzjtTBDCc

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 14, 2017, 05:38:58 PM
This is really getting complex.  Why would the Simpson's be immune from the effects?????? :o
What do you mean by that? ???
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Pimander on February 15, 2017, 07:56:57 AM
I can explain quite a few of the above list. :)

“We Are the Champions” by Queen ends differently than many recall.
Many of those familiar with the song remember the final lyrics being “No time for losers, ’cause we are the champions…of the world!” Guess what? There is no “of the world!” The song just ends, and it’s driving people crazy because they feel 100% sure that they’ve heard otherwise in the past

I had a look at this one.  Yes, the album and single just end without ...of the world.  But what about the most watched live gig in history?  Live Aid?

Funnily enough, it ends with "...of the world".  so people were just remembering hearing it at Live Aid.  SImples!  8)

At about 3m.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPKlrRwJB8A
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on February 15, 2017, 12:01:37 PM
What do you mean by that? ???


Well for example.

They are saying that in Star Wars that the line was "Luke, I am your Father".  But now is "No, I am your Father"

In the Simpsons the line remains "Luke, I am your Father" 


Why would the Simpsons have it the way a lot of us remember?  Is it immune to the Mandella effects?

I don't know my head hurts...
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 15, 2017, 01:11:25 PM
In the second movie it is 'Luke, I am your father" just as it is J C Penny  and Berenstein Bears...

something has slipped, perhaps a virus in the matrix... no matter, I am not losing any sleep over it and really can't see right now where we can do much besides focus on the here and now and be positive in our daily affairs

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 15, 2017, 03:26:31 PM
In the Simpsons the line remains "Luke, I am your Father" 

Why would the Simpsons have it the way a lot of us remember?  Is it immune to the Mandella effects?

For me it is '"Luke, I am your father" and I saw those films so many times the main lines are etched on my grey matter

Simpson's immune? MAYBE  because they are a very strange show with all the predictions they have made that come true. MAYBE they are the programmers of the matrix

Just had this one sent to me. This is for all you Christians out there

"THE LION SHALL LAY DOWN WITH THE LAMB"

In my world everyone knows that scripture Christian or not, BUT..

It doesn't exist   :o

Now the odd thing about this one is that it is still around on the internet so perhaps this one hasn't fully slipped yet. 

SAYINGS NOT FOUND IN SCRIPTURE

Isaiah 11:6
The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them.

Isaiah 65:25
"The wolf and the lamb shall graze together; the lion shall eat straw like the ox, and dust shall be the serpent's food. They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain," says the Lord.

So WTF?  I never EVER heard the WOLF and the lamb

I need a bottle of RUM before my head explodes

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/0220a80545348b140c03cb570cb6cf2c/tumblr_n2ndmmo5641tux4mao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 15, 2017, 03:36:15 PM
Wolf??? :o I think I need to go on vacation... I hear that the girls are friendly on Altair IV...

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 15, 2017, 05:18:22 PM

Well for example.

They are saying that in Star Wars that the line was "Luke, I am your Father".  But now is "No, I am your Father"

In the Simpsons the line remains "Luke, I am your Father"
The Simpsons aren't saying that the line in Star Wars was "Luke, I am your father", they are only using that line.

Quote
Why would the Simpsons have it the way a lot of us remember?
Why not? It could be for two reasons:
1 - they may be using that line exactly because it's not the one on the film, so no rights problems;
2 - the people that wrote the text or decided what the text should say also thinks that was the original line.

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Is it immune to the Mandella effects?
The Mandela effect is thinking that things changed, if they are using the line that doesn't appear on the movie then they are affected by the Mandela effect, not immune. If they were immune they would say the text as it appears in the movie.

PS: I also think that nothing changed and it has always been "No, I am your father".
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 15, 2017, 05:21:15 PM
I hear that the girls are friendly on Altair IV...
Mandela effect again, the girls aren't friendly on Altair IV.  :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 15, 2017, 05:23:33 PM
Hate to tell you this, Armap, but I just pulled up that scene from Star Wars on the dvd and it's Luke, I am your father  8)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 15, 2017, 05:32:23 PM
For me it is '"Luke, I am your father" and I saw those films so many times the main lines are etched on my grey matter
For me has always been "No, I am your father". Just look at the rest of the conversation, "No, I am your father" makes more sense than "Luke, I am your father", as it's an answer to what Luke just said.

PS: As I think the whole Mandela effect is just people trying to hide their own mistakes under a fancy name for memory slip, I thought that someone with many facebook friends could make a simple test and try to start a new example of the Mandela effect, by choosing, for example, a sentence from a movie or a song and asking other people if they remember something else, then see how many people agree with this new example. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 15, 2017, 05:33:04 PM
Hate to tell you this, Armap, but I just pulled up that scene from Star Wars on the dvd and it's Luke, I am your father  8)
Well, just post it, so we can see it. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on February 15, 2017, 05:34:26 PM
I haven't been to the mall here in decades. I'm going to make a special trip and take a picture of the JC Penney's sign. Still need to know where I can host it though.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Pimander on February 15, 2017, 05:35:31 PM
and what about Radio Shack? I distinctly remembering them going bankrupt and announcing their stores were going to be history...but everywhere I look I see Radio Shack stores wide open and thriving??? ???

RadioShack, after years of puzzling bottom-seeking stock investors on how it managed to stay in business, filed for bankruptcy on Thursday evening. The retailer, best known to consumers in recent years as a trusty seller of easy to lose cords, chargers and tech accessories, also announced a deal to sell between 1,500 and 2,400 stores to a consortium including Standard General and Sprint while in restructuring.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2015/02/05/radioshack-cuts-the-cord-after-90-years-files-for-bankruptcy/#54965b811723
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 15, 2017, 05:35:57 PM
Well, just post it, so we can see it. :)
I am sure there is a way to do that, but I don't have a clue how  ???
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 15, 2017, 05:45:06 PM
I am sure there is a way to do that, but I don't have a clue how  ???
If you have a camera you can record it. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Norval on February 15, 2017, 08:13:29 PM
This is only a test, please don't delete this post and say it never existed.

This is only a test   ::)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Norval on February 15, 2017, 08:16:04 PM
Just had this one sent to me. This is for all you Christians out there

"THE LION SHALL LAY DOWN WITH THE LAMB"

In my world everyone knows that scripture Christian or not, BUT..

It doesn't exist   :o

Now the odd thing about this one is that it is still around on the internet so perhaps this one hasn't fully slipped yet. 

SAYINGS NOT FOUND IN SCRIPTURE

Isaiah 11:6
The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them.

Isaiah 65:25
"The wolf and the lamb shall graze together; the lion shall eat straw like the ox, and dust shall be the serpent's food. They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain," says the Lord.

So WTF?  I never EVER heard the WOLF and the lamb

I need a bottle of RUM before my head explodes

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/0220a80545348b140c03cb570cb6cf2c/tumblr_n2ndmmo5641tux4mao1_500.jpg)

Read the book and then you too will know what it really says.  ;D
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on February 16, 2017, 12:02:51 AM
This whole ME seems to be increasing and its darn well annoying the hell out of me.

Example:  One show I watch every week is The Haunting Of.........usually a celebrity and Kim Russo, psychic medium goes to where there haunting was with the celebrity and finds out what went on.

So, I am watching the show below for a second time on youtube, but this time all the words are written backwards instead of forwards like it was a few weeks ago, not happy Jan.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIwpH8PVEQs

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 16, 2017, 12:42:55 AM
Just read an interesting quote by William S Burroughs : "Your mind will answer most questions if you learn to relax and wait for the answer."

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: dreb13 on February 16, 2017, 05:56:31 AM
At my local Loews AMC movie theater, they have movie quotes that run along the top of the walls in the hallways that lead up to each theater.  I remember that there was the Star Wars quote (or misquote) on one of the hallways and after a quick google image search, I found the quote.  The picture was of the entire hallway but I cropped it to show the quote.

(http://i68.tinypic.com/2up2uqc.jpg)

I had a friend who pointed out years ago that that line is misquoted and every time I've watched Empire Strikes Back, it stands out to me.  However, popular usage goes a long way and the misquote isn't only in The Simpsons, it was also in Tommy Boy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsI3lFHkU_s

Now, that being said, I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that Hannibal Lecter never said "Hello Clarice" in Silence of the Lambs.  :o
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 16, 2017, 11:51:18 AM
Read the book and then you too will know what it really says.  ;D

That is a very STUPID reply...  Of COURSE reading it would show what it says NOW... not what it said BEFORE  and all you did was evade the question... and we don't know what YOU recall... Wolf or Lion

Silly Lemming


That is the biggest problem with this effect... those from THIS current timeline would not see anything amiss  and those anyone that says they recall it as being different would be treated as if they were crazy, delusional or have a faulty memory.

But as Biggles just pointed out the effect is getting stronger and more people are becoming aware that something is going on...
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 16, 2017, 11:58:43 AM
What I want to look at now is WHEN these changes started occuring.   It seems to me that most are very recent, like JC Penny.  I even went to the JC Penny store to see what the sign said...

And well the store is GONE  There is now a huge Goodwill store and a Pizza place similar to Chuck E Cheese... NO JC Penny store  No JC Penney Store

I was there before I went to Texax :P because my wife worked there

I dod phone her and asked her how she spells it and she replied; "JC Penney"

However when I mentioned Berenstein/Berenstain bears she went nuts...   For her it was STEIN as she was very familiar with the books having read them to the kids.  She says we should have the books still  I will check my daughters boxes


So it appears that  some of these changes are happening at different times and effecting different people

If we can track when these changes appeared that may show some interesting results

I have heard that CERN is responsible

I had hear earlier that the Philadelphia Experiment had triggered it

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 16, 2017, 02:19:16 PM
So, I am watching the show below for a second time on youtube, but this time all the words are written backwards instead of forwards like it was a few weeks ago, not happy Jan.
Did you watch the video in that YouTube channel? That video was clearly mirrored, while the one below wasn't.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4sw4sv_the-haunting-of-s05e02-eric-roberts_tv
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 16, 2017, 02:23:46 PM
So it appears that  some of these changes are happening at different times and effecting different people
There are no changes, only in the minds of a few people that aren't capable of admitting that they may be wrong.  :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on February 16, 2017, 06:58:36 PM
There are no changes, only in the minds of a few people that aren't capable of admitting that they may be wrong.  :P

Didn't think of that, it probably was mirrored, but it was Sex in the City, I can find a yt with a guy showing his girlfriend's Sex in the City memorabilia she bought, all show Sex In The City.

Could be two overlapping timelines or merging timelines changing things, who knows, but they have changed without a doubt.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on February 16, 2017, 07:40:56 PM
Some people have typed in Mandela Effect into Google Earth, guess what, I will put it below;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eq74IVp3fQ
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Pimander on February 16, 2017, 08:42:10 PM
It is obviously the wolf and lamb.  Lions live on hot plains and sheep live in the colder hills like wolves. :P ::)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2017, 01:04:41 AM
There are no changes, only in the minds of a few people that aren't capable of admitting that they may be wrong.  :P

There ARE changes but the minds of some people aren't capable of seeing them or admitting they might be wrong :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2017, 01:11:13 AM
Could be two overlapping timelines or merging timelines changing things, who knows, but they have changed without a doubt.

Yes Biggles   Converging timelines in fact. Dan Burisch warned us about them way back when we started looking into the stargates...

I had forgotten that until I was reminded by Dan Benkert over at Facebook

The following has been retrieved from the Wayback Machine and reprinted on Biblioteca Pleyades

(http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_titulos/danburisch29.gif)

W.M. discusses the issue of The Doctrine of Convergent Timeline Paradox, from the perspective of a remote viewing methodology.
 
(The problems that had been caused by the J-Rods who were using their technology to travel back in time, and thereby creating overlaying time anomalies)


Can it be that what we think is physical reality is made up of an illusion, a play of light of quantum participant observer probabilities?

Is reality an illusion that is physically effective?

What if, just like you can hypnotize someone to think they were burned when they were not, and they suffer real skin burns caused by their imagination, that you could hypnotize masses of people to both experience a world they are conditioned to expect and believe, and also have them be unable to experience something they are conditioned to deny as being real?
 
The brain’s body image can lead the presentation of objectively measurable physical manifestations in the body.
 
This is the flip side of what we usually assume, which is also true, that experience of the physical body, through sensation and action, certainly lead to experience in the brain’s body image.

But on the other hand, given the placebo power of the mind to cause the manifestation of physical symptoms, and given masses of people could do it in concert, it is possible the entire agreement about what is reality can be manipulated, and reality itself can be herded.

Is there a global timeline placebo effect going on?

Are we in a situation where we have been manipulated by competing ET races into using our innate and possibly soon to be more awakened creative conscious spiritual energies in a way that serves them, but not always us?

Must they keep us asleep to get away with herding our souls like cattle for their own ends?
Are we being led along in a fairly controlled sleepy manner to preserve and continue steps toward a realizing a large global consensus blueprint future, a future that serves these ET society future human interests, not necessarily our own present day human interests?
What does the Dan Burisch saga have to do with this?


"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistant one" ~ Albert Einstein

continued...


Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2017, 01:11:50 AM
What is the DCTP doctrine?

The DCTP (Doctrine of Convergent Timeline Paradox) is a doctrine of the human race’s probable competing pasts, observer relative present and probable futures.
 
A DCTP prime truth is there are strongly competing timelines or futures that are in a natural semi-quiescent laminar convergence right now, until the 2012 period is upon us when things change.
 
The DCTP suggests that future humans are warning of an upcoming environmental catastrophe following the 2012 galactic energy related natural stargate amplifications in our solar system that will be possibly precipitated by the presence of some artificial stargates on the Earth. If this future transpires, it is a future that leads to the developmental evolution, for better or worse, of various factions of future humans, now known as J-Rod ET’s or Orion Talls.
 
The DCTP suggests there is a future where a possibly pole shift related environmental catastrophe is averted and does not happen, and relative to this different time line, the future that generated the J-Rods as we know them will never evolve from our own, and we have taken a new path.
 
The DCTP suggests the remaining presence of the J-Rods in our timeline, having originated from the alternate prior timeline, will effectively be world line immigrants from a future that they helped never happen for us.
 
The DCTP suggests our distant descendents help us change our course in a way that precludes their own development in this new timeline, but they still exist in our timeline coming from that prior original future they traveled back from to,
have helped us avert the catastrophe (Maji allied J-Rods), and/or
help them raid our genetic stocks before the catastrophe (Illuminati allied Rogue J-Rods).
 
The DCTP suggests future humans or J-Rods, have engaged in a future into past immigration, and are using current day human genetic resources as an evolutionary pit stop to recover factors they lost in their own originating timeline.
 
The DCTP suggests there is a future where we continue to have an ongoing relationship with the non-Rogue J-Rods, and another where they stay relatively hidden, denied, unknown, and they either go to other planets, or otherwise gradually fade out of history. The ET phenomenon related to future humans as ET’s fades out.
 
The DCTP suggests there is a future where if the so called Ark of the New Dawn were not to be deployed because it isn’t needed after all (hey folks, come on out, the weather’s great up here, no catastrophe like you thought, we dismantled those remaining stargates in time!)
 
The DCTP suggests there are many timeline overlays going on, at least pre-2012.
 
The DCTP suggests there are many externally introduced novel butterfly attractors that are being stacked into motion in our timeline pre-2012.
 
The DCTP suggests that circa 2012 as we cross the galactic ecliptic natural stargate wormhole that exist along the galactic ecliptic will line up and activate in such a way as to cause a plenum of energy flux of some kind that will affect our solar system.
 
The DCTP suggests that this natural stargate activation event will produce some changes in the solar system and the sun which, along with changes and energy flux associated with any natural stargates in the vicinity of our planet.
 
The DCTP suggests that future humans have time traveled to the past – our present – and are working to steer timeline causality into certain trajectories.
 
The DCTP suggests that the future humans experienced a catastrophe that began with an event that occurs around the 2012 timing, and this catastrophe may have included the activation of artificial wormholes or stargates left over from previous ET travelers, which activation may have precipitated a radical pole-shift and other things during or subsequent to that timing.
 
The DCTP suggests that future humans have used the ability to time travel to return to a pre-2012 era in order to attempt to deactivate certain artificial stargates that may have helped precipitate disaster attributed to their activation during the 2012 timing.
 
The DCTP suggests that these future humans, known also as ET’s or J-Rods, have also returned back in time in order to migrate their future human species into a more survivable and evolutionarily efficacious future.
 
The DCTP suggests that timelines can be overlaid or stacked, and that we presently live in a causality nexus that combines multiple timelines and multiple loops of timeline feedback.
 
The DCTP suggests that if due to their influence and present human actions, the historical catastrophe of their ancient history – our immediate future – does not happen, then it is understood the J-Rods will not develop in the new timeline as they did in the original one that developed them to their current evolutionary appearance.
 
The DCTP suggests that if the catastrophe does not happen as it once did, the J-Rods who have migrated back in time will continue to exist from their heritage of the prior timeline they evolved in, but that humanity in the present new timelines will be spared an evolutionary path that led to the J-Rods current problems.
 
The DCTP suggests that the J-Rods from more than one future have migrated back to our present era, specifically the 45’s (meaning they are from the future 45,000 years ahead of us...) and the 52’s, and that the 52’s, as a whole, are suffering from a terminal form of peripheral neuropathy (PN).
 
The DCTP suggests that the 45 J-Rods, 7k years earlier in time than the 52’s, do not directly suffer from the PN syndrome are split into two factions, reasonable and unreasonable, or friendly and rogue, and that the rogue J-Rods resist following any agreements with current time human governments, and that the friendly 45’s and the 52’s have both formed treaties (Tau9)
 
The DCTP suggests that the latest summed iteration of multiple composite timelines have, across different scales, a substantial degree of relative integral convergence of causality paths with all the prior feedback loop overlaid lines after the original line.
 
The DCTP suggests the feedback loop overlay series of new time or world lines is constituted of varying causality streams in multi-wave paradox that we are currently riding together. The multi-wave time stream is comprised of the original and all the varying changed or tweaked world lines, through to the latest loop overlay.
 
The DCTP refers to a composite of multi-potential range of different possible causality trajectories, with different relative outcome probability-to-actuality biases, but existing as an overlay. Living inside a multi-trajectory time stream stack, individual participant observer by their own resonance can individually bias their superposition-to-position to one or more of the different lines in the stack.
 
The DCTP suggests there are causality trajectory potentials in the environment of stacked time stream potentials which all remain common across the lines. They remain singular or at least flow in unified fused convergent trajectory, and in this respect the timelines remain, at certain scales and domains of participant observation, relatively indistinguishable from each other.
 
The DCTP suggests other novel or divergent future potentials are also resonantly competing with each other for substantially mutually exclusive future outcomes. Yet at other scales of observation, much of the different causality stream paths are largely similar to one another.
 
The DCTP suggests the stacked timeline experiential paradox effect is intensified by how extreme the range of line-to-line novelty in the time line stream stack. The more extreme range the experience of locally or globally divergent timeline superposition-to-position dominance depends on the bias of the participant observer.
 
The DCTP suggests multiple loop or embedded time streams can alternately flow in a laminar-like convergence or causal fusion or otherwise flow divergently and separately, depending on the participant observer population intentional variations. Does this suggest the native active intentional resonance of the participant observer can converge with one stream or another and entrain their conscious observer participant influence to reinforce to particular time stream potential over another?
 
The DCTP suggests a paradox generating situation where the time stream is appearing to remain largely convergent and fused as if one singular largely composite world line, but on the other hand there are different causal trajectories which can super-positioned into position by the influence of participant observers. Does like attract like, and the laws of resonance entrainment apply in this regard?
 
The DCTP suggests any given “reality” is comprised of convergent probability waves more than solid objects, and locality is a balanced convergence of both local explicate and entangled non-local implicate pattern potentials. If this is so, do mass convergent causal vector potentials literally tend to reinforce and steer global consensus causality in a direction that is consistent with the convergence of probability waves produced by masses of observer participants?
 
The DCTP suggests the prime global, planetary and species strategic inference is that we live in a time that includes the progression of more than one future in the offing that will develop. Is it true the stakes are that these currently overlaid different future potentials are each and all vying for conscious observer participant quantum population? They each have spiritual quantum superposition advocacy to entrain our souls into their particular causality orbit. Which orbit we align to is the causality time line that more of our conscious energy will be invested in, and hence feeds forward to energize those future potentials, just as those future potentials fed back to look for (1) reinforcement or (2) change.
 
The DCTP suggests that pre-2012 that several distinct time lines are stacked and overlaid and in relative laminar-like convergence, and that in the 2012 period there is a galactic scale alignment that provides a natural boosting and “turning on” of natural stargates in our solar system.
 
The DCTP suggests that the natural stargates may accommodate and support spiritual evolutionary changes and transformation for human consciousness, and will additionally produce material effects on the electromagnetic environment of the sun and our planet. Is it thought by some of the future humans that during this event, the existence of some remaining artificial stargates on Earth may have radically influenced the progress of a natural pole shift in progress to unnaturally occur in such an accelerated manner that it has radical global environmental consequences?
 
The DCTP suggests that some of the future humans wish to possibly avert the severity by removing or disabling any artificial stargates before the galactic alignment stargate boosting event.
 
The DCTP suggests there are some future humans who have effectively migrated back to this present time and appear to want to,
influence their precedent future so that it may not happen as it once already did for them (and still could for us), and
emigrate to this present for its expedient evolutionary resources, such as for pre-catastrophe DNA pit stop, in order to genetically engineer and accomplish a future human species evolutionary potential recovery operation.
 
The DCTP suggests if the future humans (who are here to be present timeline changers) avert the catastrophe that befell their species, they will still exist, and still have originated from their earlier now relatively defunct timeline, but they will now recover more of their lost evolutionary energy that was sapped by their historical accretion into that timeline, and more fully move on from their presence in this timeline.
 
However, is it not also true they will themselves from present, after averting the catastrophe, diverge into a new timeline that becomes increasingly separate from ours as a species now moving along a much different future timeline trajectory?
 
The DCTP suggests that the future humans who have time looped back are executing a present era DNA pit stop to recover those lost factors that their soon to be averted future had eventually stripped them of. These future humans, will, through this time looped DNA hybridization operation, produce a new future genetic line for evolutionary progress for them.
 
It will hopefully combine what was the best of our human future in the post-catastrophe trajectory, with the best of their past heritage, our present pre-2012 gene pool, and permit them a recovered evolutionary trajectory.
 
The DCTP suggests the new evolutionary trajectory project instigated by the future humans operating in our present era, looks to accomplish its ends by several somewhat conflicting means. In one instance one faction of future humans, the more logic and technology worshippers, descendents of present day Illuminati, are willing to resort to any means necessary to move along their evolutionary recovery agenda without much care for how it affects our timeline forward (since it won’t be them), and in another instance, the heart and compassion worshippers, the brothers from Orion, want to see a win-win where the new future timeline of the emigrated future humans only supports a better future for the current human species.
 
The DCTP suggests the service-to-self expediency logic camp is uninterested in our new future timeline and its fate just using us as a free resource for achieving their ends for an evolutionary uplift, as and such, could care less if we still hit the catastrophe that befell them – these are the Illuminati linked Rogues.
 
The DCTP also suggests, that in contrast, the service-to-others compassion camp is very interested in optimizing how this reverse time emigration of the future humans can also incidentally help to both,
to avert the precedent catastrophic pole shift future that happened for them
provide a disclosure of the 2012 events potentials in a way that can spiritually reinforce a more optimal evolutionary fate for present era humans.
And this future human group is comprised of the non-rogue future humans – who are working with the present-era faction known as the Maji.
 
The DCTP suggests the future human descendents of the Illuminati and Maji, in their various flavors, are both competitively influencing the present pre-2012 for their own ends, but with the Illuminati are willing to see a win for them and losing situation for us, whereas the Maji are predisposed to influencing towards a win-win, service-to-all outcome.
 
The DCTP suggests that one faction of future humans called the Rogues wish to prevent disclosure of how humans may choose to populate different possible soul futures.
 
The DCTP suggests that the some of the future humans known as Rogue J-Rods, wish to engage in soul-energy hijacking activity in addition to genetic energy recovery activity, and this may have an additional negative effect on the prospects of the current era timeline trajectory.
 
The DCTP suggests that human souls from the future are influencing their soul ancestry in their relative past, our present, in to order to upgrade their own future.
 
The DCTP suggests the future holds a known track of development that eventually generates three
 
The DCTP suggests that of recent, the present day Maji allied future human J-Rods, have begun to appreciate how their ancestral genetic pit stop operation in our time will have further karmic consequence they will face in their new future if they engage in it with unwilling free souls.
 
The DCTP suggests, that as a result, the non-Rogue J-Rods are largely curtailing their continuing abduction activity to obtain genetic material in order to forward their hybridization program. It also suggests they have recently chosen to “live” with the state of the art DNA hybridization level of accomplishment they have reached as of this point, and further suffice through evolutionary genetic tuning of the current stock, and also suffice also through the possible influence of certain present era-human new breakthroughs in energetic biological healing.
 
The DCTP suggests, that in contrast to this, the Illuminati descended more Godless Rogue J-Rods dismiss abduction compassion considerations, and that even while they would like to obtain natural biological healing technologies uniquely discovered in the current loop by present humans associated with the Maji, they are far too arrogant and self interested to care about how much they “manipulate” and “use” the present era to serve their own timeline uplift resource piggy bank.
 
The DCTP suggests that the Rogue J-Rods are against disclosure of the situation in any manner that would promote present day human species enlightenment, as this enlightenment provides human conscious souls freedom from their plans to continue to manipulate their ancestors, after a fashion, to be an expedient resource for their own upliftment ends.
 
The DCTP suggests that as a result, these Rogue J-Rod future humans have deployed a population of near era time traveling human hybrids, often known as MIB’s, who are early products of prior accomplished future-human/past-human genetic hybridization work, to acts as a timeline enforcement operation.
 
The DCTP suggests this causality control and containment operational force of MIB’s instigated by the Rogues is intended to accomplish the ends of
preventing consensus awareness of their abduction activity and present era manipulating presence
preventing scientific progress to develop technologies that could be used against them
preventing any mass human enlightenment breakthroughs that could impair their capacity to manipulate present day era humans toward a future of servitude to their own future evolutionary ends
 
The DCTP suggests from the Rogue ET view, that consensus acknowledgement and awareness of the ET presence will produce unpredictable responses among the genetic resource stock and thereby hinder their usage agenda.
 
The DCTP suggests that substantial leap frog scientific progress due to the feedback of future technology into this current era can provide current era humans with the ability to combat the Rogue agenda.
 
The DCTP suggests that the natural consequence of the 2012 period stargate activation will boost and accelerate present day human observer participant co-creative quantum energetic potentials, and that this influx into the population during this period will cause the presently semi-convergent laminar time stream flow following that period to diverge into several increasingly distinct and increasingly divergent timelines.
 
The DCTP suggests that pre-2012 these laminar timeline streams can be more easily crossed back and forth naturally by observer participants depending on their conscious resonance.
 
The DCTP suggests that there is a dimensional war or timeline resonance competition in the present day laminar flow for more soul energy migration into the different lines, and that these factions of different future human ET societies realize. They will only be successful to the degree current present era humans behave in accordance with their desires.
 
The Rogue J-Rods desire to control and use this current day era as a “natural resource” to be exploited for their own future hybrid and future non-hybridized evolutionary ends, and the non-Rogue J-Rods desire to cooperatively both help themselves and us in the present, by
recovering lost evolutionary factors for them own future development,
contributing to our new catastrophe-averted future timeline some more balanced material and spiritual potentials
enabling a limited voluntary evolutionary consensus agreement level exchange and integration of their existence between themselves and present new timeline humans to support a more optimal trajectory future for the preservation of the species
 
The DCTP suggests if the non-Rogue J-Rods recover lost factors from our present era they will assure themselves of avoiding an evolutionary dead end future.
 
The DCTP suggests that if the non-Rogue elements contribute to averting the catastrophe that will help karmically balance the use they have made of the present era as an evolutionary pit stop for their continuing into a new future from this loop back point.
 
The DCTP suggests that if the non-Rogue J-Rods help enable an optimum evolutionary engagement by present era humans of the natural stargate activation and boost during the 2012 period, then this will feed forward to produce new evolutionary future spiritual factors that will feedback to support their new course in even deeper positive participant quantum energetic karmic loop back terms.
 
The DCTP suggests that the non-Rogue J-Rod future humans are allied with the present day Maji human faction, through a treaty called the “Tau-9 treaty for the preservation of humanity”, but that the Rogues are not a party to this treaty, which is why they are called Rogues.
 
The DCTP suggests that the present day Illuminati are building a number of Arks to survive a predicted abrupt global change due to the hypothesized 2012 stargate activation, and that their descendents will become the Rogue J-Rods.
 
The DCTP suggests that if the global catastrophe is averted by whatever means, that the re-direction of quantum observer participant energy away from their precedent future will result in a weakening of their capacity to influence our future in their current era loop back immigration trajectory.
 
The DCTP suggests that if the post global pole shift environmental catastrophe does not occur, that there are significant positive benefits reaped from the 2012 natural stargate activation period. The benefits could be to alternatively produce a human consciousness liberating evolutionary leap frog, and a level of enlightenment among the masses, that will produce a new set of future timeline trajectories that will compassionately steer the course of humanity into a virgin future of untold beneficial futures and heights, and in fact fulfill the original evolutionary directive to evolve the consciousness of humanity into its optimum potential as future creative agencies in the universe.
 
The DCTP suggests that if the Illuminati connected Rogue J-Rods can obtain the secrets of new biological re-vitalization technology associated with the discovery of how to produce Ganesh particles, (cellular level effective electromagnetic energy bundles which carry the potential to heal as well as potentially harm), that this could help them to achieve some of their desired ends with regards to their DNA hybridization and recovery goals.
 
However sharing this disclosure is being reasonably withheld by the Maji in order to possibly influence the Rogue J-Rod current course of action, and as a result have them abide by some of the Tau-9 treaty objectives.
 
Another prime DCTP truth is that Post 2012, the different timeline streams, “old lines” (original and earlier loop back and forward), and new ones (later loop back and forward), will increasingly and naturally more and more separate and diverge into less and less interacting phase coherence with each other. There is a global timeline split event coming up soon.
 
When there is,
enough mass population cohesion of competing conscious observer quantum energy potentials, combined with
enough natural quantum resonance boosting factors (2012),
...then, several different global futures can and will establish themselves in different mass-quantum phase positions of forward time.
 
The DCTP says there is a future where the original environmental catastrophe occurs. The Ark is deployed, and the illuminati style Ark distant descendents eventually become the J-Rods, apparently more Rogue than not. The post-catastrophe surface dwellers survive and some eventually head for Orion to become the Talls, the others head elsewhere as an Ark society, and the classic archetypal H.G. Well’s Eloi versus Morlock like human evolutionary split somewhat transpires.
 
The DCTP says there is a future where the catastrophe is not averted, though attempted to be averted, and things go so bad that the loop back J-Rod Rogues use us effectively as spiritual batteries for their own future benefit (The Matrix movie was close to revealing the nature of our illusion). These Rogue folks are like a spiritual vampire soul sucking slow motion 911 Al Qaida attack on the sly against the whole human species. They don’t want their presence to be known, since history has proven it potentially fatal to getting away with soul trapping, and they don’t want us to figure out how to be free of them, and they are afraid we might use our awakening to control them.
 
The DCTP infers that the Rogue J-Rods are scared of what our spiritual potential can unleash in terms of our own newly possible futures. The Rogues prefer us to not have the capacity to be transparently at-one-with-and-within the wonderful conscious creative quantum energy potentials that 2012 alignments can forge that robs them of their unknowing human livestock flock. That is their greatest fear.
 
The DCTP identifies that humanity as a whole is quantum volitionally participant in their different mass futures from different grouped biases of quantum accretion potential.
 
The fact is, present time humanity could become the conscious, subconscious, or unconscious victims of its own negative future that has already cruised into existence ahead of us, and is even already bouncing back to us in a shout for help, and watch out!! Or, humanity can increasingly become a fully awake conscious creator in the matter of its future.
 
Furthering that opportunity for conscious choice and influence for the preservation of humanity, is the choice that the DCTP recognizes and is challenged to provide an answer to, without shooting itself in the foot, without the cure killing the patient. Hence the operational need for extreme discretion about the process of disclosure and assimilation of the DCTP truths into the pre-2012 culture.
 
The DCTP suggests the natural life boosting effects of the 2012 timing will one day begin to boost different global competing futures, and amplify their diverging into increasingly separate and distinct global future timelines. While we all will continue to exist in all the futures, our conscious volitional quantum soul energy has a choice as to where we take most of our consciousness.
 
When we take enough of our consciousness somewhere – that somewhere becomes more physically real and solid and dense. When we take very little of our consciousness down another possible free-will timeline, that timeline tends to hold less energy, and is comparably, a more dream-like phantom reality.
 
The DCTP suggests there the more conscious you become by connecting with the consciousness that exists, the more potential you have to be an agency, in your own way, of helping to steer the mass quantum field towards more optimal self-corrective revision.
 
The DCTP suggests there are Blue Apples everywhere at all scales of creation and life, from subatomic, to atomic, to molecular, to electromagnetic, to cellular to organismic. Blue apples are simply all the active hyper-dimensional toroidal vortex connection points of and between all conscious local “life” or “soul” in the universe at large.
 
The DCTP suggests that Blue Apples are natural spatio-temporal locations, points and regions and events where the non-local oneness continuum that encompasses this universe is more actively linked across dimensions, from local to non-local. Blue apples are the natural wormholes between local physical life and non-local spiritual life. Blue apples connect the energetic beingness vortexes of universal soul into individual expression. Blues apples connect the tough-love of transpersonal consciousness and unified beingness that is the force of evolution with individual souls, lifeforms, and all diversity of identity in time and space.
 
The biggest DCTP secret is our spirits, souls and hearts, if awakened, are natural and very powerful blue apple stargates.
 
The DCTP suggests there is a dimensional war for harvesting our soul creative energy into different future timeline realities. Heaven, hell and purgatory timelines are a literal choice for the future physical existence of the human species. Every human soul, consciousness itself, is in reality a blue apple, every auric Chakra is a blue apple, every type of vortex relationship between this dimensionality and others at all scales is a blue apple - blue apples of the solar system gravitational EM field, the blue apples of the planetary EM vortex field, blue apples in the magnetic cross lines of the geo-electromagnetic Earth field currents, blue apples of geophysical mineral life, plant life, animal life and human life.
 
The DCTP suggests technology based artificial blue apple stargates exist, whose presence on Earth may cause an Earth EM field flip short-circuit or blowout during the 2012 period, and cause consequent disastrous global environmental conditions following the 2012 period.
 
The DCTP suggests there have always been competing streams of future mass consensus reality timelines, and that competing reinforcement of different paths, different futures currently embedded in the larger time stream is a manipulated affair. There is more than one past, present and future timeline potential that is unusually converged for a while right now, all mixed for our integrated pleasure right now, as our opportunity to solve the questions of conflict that this world presents.
 
The DCTP suggests that if we solve the challenges of compassion and inclusion, of sensitivity and courage, and we dismantle the artificial stargates that are a symptom of an overload of arrogance, we then avert a planetary system overload, things go more smoothly, and the natural 2012 period stargate activation becomes all the more wonderful an opportunity for awakening and vitalizing a new untrammeled future, an undiscovered new world, where instead of a catastrophe befalling our arrogance, there is, in contrast, a grand resonance of spiritual awakening that heralds a bright future that is newly born.
 
The DCTP suggests that right now, we are pre-2012, so now is the time to make the difference by waking up from our slumber, and begin to realize how we have our individual and collective strong mass quantum probabilities associated with and invested in several different distinct futures.
 
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2017, 01:14:23 AM
The DCTP Transcendence Debriefing

Transcending the DCTP suggests identifies that the more energy patterns in the time and space of the subconscious or unconscious mind are at odds with the intentional energies of the conscious mind, the more we are dis-integrated and in a Gordion knot slumbering to the consciousness of the living loving infinity that surrounds us.
 
Our multi-dimensional soul vortex, that is the portal of who we are as pure beingness, in this numb slumber, ends up stuck with much of its essential quantum influential conscious awareness capacity being ineffective in directing its own course.
 
The true and hidden potential and natural powers of quantum creative influence remain elusive and hidden from easy access by the average human soul.

 
Transcending the DCTP suggests that your consciousness is deprived of much of your energy capacity as a soul, due to all the mind numbing, feeling numbing, arrogance increasing preoccupations, distractions, negative investments, unhealthy engagements, recessions into the subconscious, or into the unconscious, the buying global propaganda, the refusal to think or feel, not growing up, not being alive, not loving and not being connected to the truth and feeling and the beauty and the pain and intricacy of all that is in your worldly perceptual sphere.

 
Transcending the DCTP suggests you can be an agency of conscious compassionate loving spheres of intention and quantum accretion influence that far exceed your local limits of prescience.
 
 
Transcending the DCTP suggests it is our natural potential as human beings to be completely connected with God, to consciously accept the invitation from the universe, every living thing, every changing thing, and all the beauty and chaos within the whole and all its parts.
 
It is not only our birthright, it is our invited responsibility to wake up now and make the coming 2012 natural stargate quantum blue apple life vortical reality boosting events occur to our maximum evolutionary benefit.

 
Transcending the DCTP suggests that transpersonal awareness, is experiencing your relationship to the wholeness and connection of other souls and connection to the universe of course. Transpersonal awareness is the natural connection between the spark of divinity that is your conscious soul, with any of the chaos and intelligence of creation.
 
This awareness is expressed through the enlightenment of the internal conscious awareness capacity to be in directed and receptive sentient and sensorial union with any and all of the spiritual and material aspects of any object of perception. This skill is available to everyone as an effortless experience to have, if they tell the truth to themselves. This is effective without anything other than childlike humility to truly wake up and see what is, and not what you expect or want.
 
This is sharing connection, riding the quantum entanglement currents between everything in the living and alive universe that is, discovering how all of the consciousness of creation is available to be connected with your own consciousness, if you so truly invite it and intend it and allow it and become its agency.
 
When you consciously experience higher self and unconscious self manifestations that allow you access reality at a larger and deeper scale, all of creation can be a synchronistic reflective medium of who you are and who you are becoming in the beyond.

 
Transcending the DCTP it is calculated, that right now, circa 2005 on planet Earth the global mass quantum accretion power distribution is as follows:
10% Higher conscious creation, up from recent past
10% Unconscious creation, down from recent past
60% Subconscious creation, down from recent past
20% Conscious creation, up from recent past
 
 
Transcending the DCTP suggests if you are personally over 50% in the conscious domain for yourself, you are as enlightened as anyone can ever typically claim. But if you are volitionally all spent in the unconscious domain then the momentum consensus blueprint future is more probably your future.
 
If you don’t consciously stand for something, you fall for everything.

 
The DCTP suggests there are future timelines that are more probable depending on what part of the quantum future power distribution you are biased to.

 
Transcending the DCTP suggests if you have invested too much of your 'blue apple' soul energy in the subconscious domain, then you are slumbering through the predilection of your personal story, your local concerns, your perceptual habits, patterns, scripts, contracts, karmas, and illusions.

 
Transcending the DCTP suggests most are asleep in the real dream of the real world, unable to awaken from the realness of the illusion they have invested themselves into.

 
Transcending the DCTP suggests the secret truth beyond the DCTP is there is a universal mind-heart-infinity symphony of all beingness hoping we will reach out and become a co-creative friend, companion and partner in the larger creation’s unified intentional quest for evolving higher orders of love and consciousness.
 
To eventually each of us have the capacity to recover the yield of all the soul energy lost into all Maya wheels of pain and unconsciousness we have passionately invested ourselves in to learn, understand, love, become one with, and eventually transcend.

 
Transcending the DCTP suggests the secret truth of enlightenment is that simple innocent yet wise humility, honesty, sensitivity, vulnerability, caring, courage, openness, receptiveness, and desire to experience and know more of love, along with a little discernment, is and has always been the natural answer to realizing the desire for union and connection and cosmic belonging with all life and beingness.
 
These habits of humility, being as the wise fool lilies of the field, can make transparent all the mysteries of the soul’s own grain of sand within the world’s disguise, freeing one to forge into a new future never before predicted, never before possible, and that will become more spiritually integrated in ways that are currently unimaginable by any individually bound consciousness, agenda or storyline.
 
It is virgin timeline territory and virgin consciousness evolution territory.

 
Transcending the DCTP suggests it is the destiny of more and more souls to eventually choose the timeline of more love and less pain, more beauty and less violence, more oneness and less chaos, and more enchantment and less crisis.
 
But to actualize this higher evolutionary path, we must not be the ones that somehow escaped the problems in the world, but be the ones that found a way to consciously solve and resolve them.

 
Transcending the DCTP suggests that the optimal future timeline is the timeline where all the problems were solved, not avoided. The irony is that the timelines where the huge problems are avoided and ignored or covered up are the timelines that run into serious problems.
 
Creating something wonderful requires waking up and getting to work, not expecting someone or some spiritual agency to fix it for you. For this reason it is asserted that some disclosure of the hidden truth of our situation occur.
 
As a species if we can wake up to and recognize what is at stake, we may change the course of the future the DCTP fears will transpire.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/dan_burisch/esp_dan_burisch_29.htm
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2017, 01:30:51 AM
Oddly enough all the old stuff I was looking at years ago is popping back up  Here is one summary comment from a member at Project Avalon

Posting it here as a reminder for me to go back and glean the data from 2009

Mercuriel
03-16-2009, 12:21 PM
This is also related to Montauk and the Chair. They called this Project "Looking Glass" and It was initiated due to the Philadelphia Experiment.

Apparently, when They tried the Initial Philadelphia Experiment - It worked - And the result of this was a rip in Space/Time from there to the Year 1987.

From the Tech They supposedly got off the downed Roswell Craft - They were able to consruct a Chair that had the effect of moving the Occupant through time. Once They had closed the rip - They then went further and tried to go back and Edit Time in other ways. "Jump Rooms" also came from this Tech.

At any rate - These Edits resulted in Multiple Timelines that only served to Muddy the waters and complicate things for Them and Us. It was rumored that "Looking Glass" was shut down in the late Nineties when It was realized by Them that all They were doing was screwing up things even more than It already was with the First Event (Philadelphia Experiment).


http://projectavalon.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-12104.html
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2017, 03:26:21 AM
From Space Otter via Email


I have spent a lot of time in my life thinking folks were pranking me...
for instance
I would call a friend or see a neighbor and say oh  I found this whatever you were asking about and they would say..
ah.!? I don’t remember  but I was just going to try and find that
or
I would hand a person in charge of  a certain work experiment my findings.. and they would look at me and say.. what is this and why are you handing it to me..
I would say.. you ask for it.. at another time.. days  hours..whatever
and they would say no we never had that conversation I was  just going to tell you to do this...
and I would just smile and say  I’m just faster than a bunny
and of course they would be a little freaked and  pile on more thoughts of me being ultra-weird..
and it had mixed results of either that person  being afraid of me or wanting to study me  more closely....sigh
 
thru the years I have thought of myself as maybe smarter, in a more aware sense - in that I saw/noticed things others didn’t  or psychic cause this happened a lot ( along with other stuff) in many different ways..
But  within the last year or so I have wondered if I was going back and forth in time...only retaining snippets of stuff that pertained to me personally
 
I have  mostly had the ability of standing back and seeing myself in sort of third person....last year some time end of summer beginning of fall that all changed..drastically.. and I am only seeing the change in retrospect..I think the not being able to handle the political stuff was   a give-away of some sort of change... and when Z mentioned his time glitches I told him  I couldn’t wait to read his story..and it’s taken him long enough. lol
 
but  now the time glitches are different.. I feel things differently and am struggling to figure out just what the hell is going on now.. I usually don’t reveal this  kind of stuff about myself I am very private but I can put it here- now.. cause I think that type of time glitch is gone (at least for me)  and there is a newer difference in  the time glitch.. and I’m hoping by participating in this thread  there will be some info I can use to figure it out
 
anyone..????
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2017, 03:30:43 AM
mandelafreakout 2 points 3 months ago
About a month ago, it was Chuck E. Cheese in my reality. I remember Chuck E Cheese's from when I was a kid though. I can't believe how many people are from the "It's-always-been-Cheese" reality.


https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/5acscq/possible_chuck_e_cheese_residue/

TIME TRAVELLERS could account for such minor chages
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on February 17, 2017, 03:44:41 AM
mandelafreakout 2 points 3 months ago
About a month ago, it was Chuck E. Cheese in my reality. I remember Chuck E Cheese's from when I was a kid though. I can't believe how many people are from the "It's-always-been-Cheese" reality.


https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/5acscq/possible_chuck_e_cheese_residue/

TIME TRAVELLERS could account for such minor chages

Yep, God knows what time travellers stuffed up.  It's like ............oh goodie, we have something new to play with, yippee.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 17, 2017, 07:05:44 AM
Didn't think of that, it probably was mirrored, but it was Sex in the City, I can find a yt with a guy showing his girlfriend's Sex in the City memorabilia she bought, all show Sex In The City.
The problem with things like that is that's how those people that make fake merchandise work. Making something branded "Sex in the City", while very similar to the original, it's not the same, so they can argue that they are not infringing any copyright. Several years ago a guy that worked with me bought a wireless phone, from what looked like a known brand, Panasonic, but only after the guy that sold him the phone was gone did we noticed that it said "Panscanic".
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 17, 2017, 07:09:22 AM
There ARE changes but the minds of some people aren't capable of seeing them or admitting they might be wrong :P
That's the problem with things like this, we can keep on this forever without reaching any conclusion.

I think this was created by someone to create even more divisions among people.  :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Pimander on February 17, 2017, 10:02:25 AM
Here is a strange one.  I replied to a post earlier in this thread.  It was the post about "Sex and the City" and I replied that it sounds like "Sex in the City" which is probably why people remembered it wrong.

When I replied, I read all the posts and then replied and the foum didn't warn me that there had been posts when I was typing.  I looked again today and ArMaP had already replied saying something similar before I posted!!!  I'd swear that post wasn't there before.....

Mandela effect?  Well I could say that.   The fact is that it is more likely I just didn't notice ArMaP's post for some reason.

Most of the other "Mandela Effect" stuff is the same.  It is about memory or human error.  Absolutely no way it can be proven and therefore I am probably wasting my time typing this and you are wasting your time reading this.  ;D
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Amaterasu on February 17, 2017, 10:11:45 AM
I don't usually quote Snopes :P but this is a good article from an independent writer and not really a debunk and it fits the point

The Berenstain/Berenstein Bears

No single example of the Mandela Effect has generated more online buzz than that of the children's book series and animated TV show The Berenstain Bears. Quite a few people who grew up with the series, it turns out, remember the title being The Berenstein Bears, with the name ending in "ein" instead of "ain" (with some even going to go so far as to maintain that the fictional bears' surname was changed along the way to make it "less Jewish"):

A page on Broome's web site cites a number of testimonials:

I too clearly remember it as ‘Berenstein’ even though I never read the books. Why would anyone change that? Seems irrelevant.

I was going to bring this up when I saw this topic...  The last name I was given at birth has an "ei" in it and is pronounced the German way ("eye"), as it is a German last name.  But throughout My childhood, People who didn't know would pronouns the "ei" as "ee" - as in the jewish pronunciation.  I became very sensitive to the way "ei" was pronounced in any word I saw it in.  And each time I saw it again, I would do a little mental verify...  "Yup.  That's pronounced [whichever way]."  When the Berenstein Bears came out, I noted that the "ei" was pronounced "ee."  The hundred or more times I saw "The Berenstein Bears," I would do My little mental verify.  "Yup.  That's pronounced "Berensteen."  Then...  Suddenly I hear that it has ALWAYS been BerenstAIn???  That would never have made My radar!

Yes...  I have a few other examples that SOMEthing is up - timeline mergings, portals, whatever...  Like learning to spell "fruit" from My cereal box, asking My mom why the "oo" sound was spelt "ui" and being told there were a lot of english words that were spelt funny, but that's how "fruit" is spelt and I had better learn to spell it that way!  Today...  It's "froot loops," not "fruit loops..."  WTF?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2017, 10:18:01 AM
The Disintegration of the Persistence of Memory
1954 by Salvador Dali


Seems this subject has been covered before :D

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When Time Stops (Schumann Resonance)


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Between the nearly perfectly conducting terrestrial surface and ionosphere, a resonating cavity is formed. Broadband electromagnetic impulses, like those from lightning flashes, fill this cavity, and create globally the so-called Schumann resonances at frequencies 5 – 50 Hz (Schumann, 1952; Bliokh et al., 1980; Sentman, 1987).

ELF is used by the US Navy to communicate with submerged submarines. The extremely high electrical conductivity of seawater shields submarines from most electromagnetic communications.

Signals in the ELF frequency range, however, can penetrate much more deeply.

The low transmission rate of most ELF communications limits their use as communications channels; generally an ELF signal serves to request that a submarine surface and initiate some other form of contact.

One of the difficulties posed when broadcasting in the ELF frequency range is antenna size. In order to transmit internationally using ELF frequencies, an extremely large antenna is required.

The US maintains two sites, in Wisconsin and Michigan. Both sites use long power lines as antennae, in multiple strands ranging from 14 to 28 miles long. Considerable amounts of power are generated and emitted by ELF, and there have been some concerns over the possible ecological impact of such signals

The electromagnetic field (EMF) is composed of two related vectorial fields, the electric field and the magnetic field. This means that the vectors (E and B) that characterize the field each have a value defined at each point of space and time. If only E, the electric field, is nonzero and is constant in time, the field is said to be an electrostatic field.

The electromagnetic field generates a force F on a charged particle, given by the Lorentz equation where q is the charge of the particle, and v is its current velocity (expressed as a vector.) The behavior of electromagnetic fields can be described with Maxwell’s equations, and their quantum basis by quantum electrodynamics.

Scientists believe that the Schumann resonance is due to the space between the surface of the Earth and the ionosphere acting as a resonant cavity that is then excited by energy from lightning strikes.

A resonant cavity is a cavity in which standing waves can be built up. It is used in lasers. The lowest-frequency (and highest-intensity) mode of the Schumann resonance is at a frequency of approximately 7.8 Hz.

The phenomenon is named after W. O. Schumann, who predicted this phenomenon in the 1950s, and helped detect its existence.

The ionosphere is the part of the atmosphere that is ionized by solar radiation, and too tenuous to be cooled by contact with other air.

It forms the inner edge of the magnetosphere and has practical importance because it reflects radio waves to distant places on Earth.

The ionosphere is generally recognized to have three, sometimes four layers.

The D layer is the innermost layer, and mostly absorbs radio waves.

The E layer is the middle layer.

The F layer combines into one layer at night, but in sunlight divides into two layers, the F1 and F2.

The F layers are responsible for most skywave propagation of radio, and are thickest and most reflective of radio on the side of the Earth facing the sun.

Scientists explore the structure of the ionosphere by bouncing radio waves of different frequencies from it, and using special receivers to detect how the reflected waves have changed from the transmitted waves.

Schumann Resonance & Zero Point

Changes are occurring on the physical, emotions, mental, and spiritual levels.

Ancient prophecies predicted it. Indigenous traditions honor it. Changes within the Earth are affecting your sleep patterns, relationships, the ability to regulate your immune system and your perception of time.

You are living a process of initiation that was demonstrated over 2,000 years ago, preparing you to accept tremendous change within your body. That change is happening now.

Migraine headaches, tiredness, electrical sensations in the limbs, and  cramps in the muscles networks Flu like symptoms intense dreams.

These could all be caused by the changes taking place on Earth now.

The human body will become more sensitive as a result of the new vibrations. The resonance of Earth (Schumann Resonance) has been 7.8Hz for thousands of years.

Since 1980 it has risen to over 12Hz.

This means that 16 hours now equate to a 24 hour day.

Time appears to be speeding up!

Gregg Braden tells of the scientific proof of the Earth passing through the Photon Belt and the slowing of the Earth’s rotation.

At the same time there is an increase in the resonant frequency of the Earth (Schumann Resonance).

When the Earth stops its rotation and the resonance frequency reaches 13 cycles we will be at a zero point magnetic field.

The Earth could be stopped, and in 2 or 3 days it will start turning again in the opposite direction.

This will produce a reversal in the magnetic fields around the earth and so forth.

Geophysical Condition no.1:

Earth’s Rising Base Frequency:

Earth’s background base frequency, or “heartbeat” , called Schumann Resonance, or SR – is rising dramatically.

Though it varies among geographical regions, for decades the overall measurement was 7.8 cycles per second.

This was once thought to be a constant; global military communications developed on this frequency.

Recent reports set the rate at over 11 cycles,and climbing. Science doesn’t know why, or what to make of it.

Gregg Braden found data collected by Norwegian and Russian researchers on this; it’s not widely reported in the U.S. (The only reference to SR to be found in the Seattle Library reference section, is tied to the weather.

Science acknowledges SR as a sensitive indicator of temperature variations and worldwide weather conditions. Braden believes the fluctuating SR may be a factor in the severe storms, floods, and weather of recent years).

 

Geophysical Condition no.2: Earth’s Diminishing Magnetic Field

While earth’s “pulse” rate is rising, her magnetic field strength, on the other hand, is declining.

According to Professor Bannerjee of the University of New Mexico, the field has lost up to half its intensity in the last 4,000 years.

Because a forerunner of magnetic polar reversals is this field strength, scientists believe that another reversal is due. They also believe that because these cyclical  shifts are associated with reversals, Earth’s geological record indicating magnetic reversals also marks previous shifts in history.

Within the enormous time scale represented, there were quite a few of them.

 

Schumann Resonance

The Earth behaves like an enormous electric circuit. The atmosphere is actually a weak conductor and if there were no sources of charge, its existing electric charge would diffuse away in about 10 minutes.

There is a ‘cavity ‘defined by the surface of the Earth and the inner edge of the ionosphere 55 kilometers up.

At any moment, the total charge residing in this cavity is 500,000 Coulombs. There is a vertical current flow between the ground and the ionosphere of 1 – 3 x 10^-12 Amperes per square meter.

The resistance of the atmosphere is 200 Ohms. The voltage potential is 200,000 Volts. There are about 1000 lightning storms at any given moment worldwide.

Each produces .5 to 1 Ampere and these collectively account for the measured current flow in the Earth’s ‘electromagnetic’ cavity.

The Schumann Resonances are quasi standing wave electromagnetic waves that exist in this cavity. Like waves on a spring, they are not present all the time, but have to be ‘excited’ to be observed. They are not caused by anything internal to the Earth, its crust or its core.

They seem to be related to electrical activity in the atmosphere, particularly during times of intense lightning activity. They occur at several frequencies between 6 and 50 cycles per second; specifically 7.8, 14, 20, 26, 33, 39 and 45 Hertz, with a daily variation of about +/- 0 .5 Hertz. So long as the properties of Earth’s electromagnetic cavity remains about the same, these frequencies remain the same.

Presumably there is somechange due to the solar sunspot cycle as the Earth’s ionosphere changes in response to the 11-year cycle of solar activity.

Schumann resonances are most easily seen between 2000 and 2200 UT.

Given that the earth’s atmosphere carries a charge, a current and a voltage, it is not surprising to find such electromagnetic waves.

The resonant properties of this terrestrial cavity were first predicted by the German physicist W. O. Schumann between 1952 and 1957, and first detected by Schumann and Konig in 1954.

The first spectral representation of this phenomenon was prepared by Balser and Wagner in 1960.

Much of the research in the last 20 years has been conducted by the Department of the Navy who investigate Extremely Low Frequency communication with submarines.

Time will appear to speed up as we approach Zero Point. A 24 hour day will seem to about 16 hours or less.

Remember the Schumann Resonance (or “heart beat” of Mother Earth) has been 7.8 cycles for thousands of years, but has been rising since 1980.

It is at about 12 cycles at present. It stops at 13 cycles.

Zero Point or the Shift of the Ages has been predicted by ancient peoples for thousands of years. There have been many shifts including the one that always occurs every 13,000 years at each half ofthe 26,000 year, Procession of the Equinox.

Zero Point or a flip of the magnetic poles could happen.

It is said that after Zero Point the Sun will rise in the west (see also the signs of the end of time in Islam):  and set in the east. Past occurances of this change have been found in ancient records

https://aenigmaunveiled.wordpress.com/2009/12/10/when-time-stops-schumann-resonance/
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2017, 10:35:26 AM
Somewhere in Revelations was the part about shortening of days.  Now if Rdunk or Norval who know that book would play nice :P and find it that would be a big help.

No I am NOT going to "read the book" to get answers to one question. This is why we have a TEAM here :P

Revelation 8:12-13New King James Version (NKJV)

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Fourth Trumpet: The Heavens Struck
12 Then the fourth angel sounded: And a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them were darkened. A third of the day did not shine, and likewise the night.

This has been explained by several different Bible study groups in many different ways...  I have always maintained that there IS some truth in ALL Ancient Scriptures but it is buried DEEP in the mud of Religion

Source #1  End Times Ministries

The Fourth Event


Revelation 8:12-13 explains that the fourth trumpet would sound before the length of the days become shortened, and the sun would not shine for a third of the day. Therefore, time will be shortened and our days around the world will be experienced differently. After the Berlin Wall fell in 1989, a “new world order” with a new age of globalization began to develop. President Ronald Reagan challenged Mikhail Gorbachev to “tear down this wall!” and 29 months later the fourth trumpet sounded.

https://www.endtime.com/blog/revelation-seven-trumpets-shall-sound/

THIS site has about a hundred scholars with different opions on what that passage means so I have a head ache :P THIS is why the water is like solid MUD

https://www.studylight.org/commentary/revelation/8-12.html

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Amaterasu on February 17, 2017, 11:08:51 AM
"back to the Future" covered it nicely...

You go back in time and cause one small change and it has ripples trhough time

The old concept  You go back in time and kill your father before you are born, do you cease to exist? If so you would not be born to go back in time and kill your father

In BTTF they simply made the changes create a NEW timeline...

So IF there are time travellers in the future, it is possible we are seeing effects of this

The SMALL stuff  like the Berenstein/Berenstain Bears appear to be experienced by many if not most people... while the major events seem to affect only a few

As Seeker said we seem to travel in groups...  some things change for everyone, some for a small group and some just for the individual.

IF we are going to assume that in the future they will have Time Travel, then this is a very good proof of it. We already have the Looking Glass technolgy that allows us to see POSSIBLE futures

Everything we do in life leads to different possible futures. Say you are walking down an alley... at the end you can turn right or left or turn around and go back the way you came...  That gives three possible futures...  YOU may not be important to Time at that moment  but lets say if you turned left you ran into hodlums and were killed...  So what ever you would have done in life will not happen

Star Trek did a good one on that with McCoy going back into the past and saved a woman from being killed.  That made their whole way of life vanish  No more starship... 

It is one of the first "Stargates" :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uKWpWkcpdM

Here's My issue with "choices" making a "new timeline..."  At what level do things count?  Does looking right instead of left make a difference?  Does scratching an itch at a 45 degree angle make a difference from scratching it at a 46 degree angle?  Where is the line at which choices will spawn a new timeline?  And given the quantum nature of things, will a particle "fixing" at one point create a new timeline over "fixing" at another point when observed?  I mean...if every choice creates a new timeline...  Wow.  Just mindbogglingly wow!
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Norval on February 17, 2017, 11:27:13 AM
Many times it is the problem of which translation is being used. When Gale and I do research we generally use about a half dozen translations from the major religious institutions. Often times there are some very radical differences in the translations, and even some reversals of meaning.

The only passage that I know of which refers to time being cut short is this one.

"The time of the end will be cut short because of the Saints (chosen ones, the Elect, the Holy Ones, etc., , , ) or all flesh would be destroyed."

In some translations even the passage numbering is different so I don't know them. Ask Rdunk, , , ,

I have found no passages that truly indicate time travel, or lines. But, there are some very interesting ones that indicate technologies way beyond ours.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2017, 12:21:46 PM
I have been trying to catch up with emails... ( I get several 1000's a day from all my sources and news feeds and don't always have time to skim them let alone read them all  This is why I created a forum :P  It is easier to get my attention here)

So Space Otter has been sending me emails (about 72 last count :P) and I have been replying in reverse order (newest first) which tends to mess up the timeline of those emails  BWAHAHAHA I just HAD to add that :P

So After I sent her my original timeline page she sent this.. (yes she does still read her in general posts)

I have copied this as is though I was given the choice of not posting it all;

Space Otter says:

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I am sending this to Z and he can decide to post it or not.. I don’t think I am ready to be on line yet.. too many things to deal with at this
“time.”.so sorry to make him work any more than he does but felt since he called, I did need to answer but otter is fading in and out right now..time glitch ?..something else?..no answer yet but working on it
 
 
 
ok so I was taped on the shoulder to find the link to pegasus (cause I had deleted it) and I get tapped on the shoulder a lot
 
 
you can skip this part but it explains  a bit of what is happening  to me now
side note one
the reason I left was the continuing comments about folks having to do with politics and specifically the last election..  I have always thought my skin was pretty thick and really didn’t care for either contestant but..(and this relates to the time glitch thing).. somehow these comments have touched a spot I did not recognize and that rippled into emotions that hadn’t previously been affected...me or at least one of me (ties to time glitch) has always held a firm belief in not taking anything  (especially on line) personally and there I was..upset continually and ready to toss words back and forth... and I did toss a few (I found that in itself as very upsetting..what the hell is going on here )...so rather than continuing with  the word tossing, which is totally NON productive, I left and then when I thought I was over it (HAH) I came back and read a comment that hit me again so I erased the link to here..
 
then the tap on the shoulder.. and really finding the link is easy so this morning  I came back to this thread with the idea of reading only it and nothing else.. we’ll see how that goes cause curiosity  good or bad is still  a strong thing I live with.
 
another part you can skip
side note two
background on my life up to here most of the older posters know ..I am not a tech person and don’t really do movies or sci fi stuff but have followed the lines of individual study in to the old practices...and in answering some of the things that have happened to me and around me have found myself in some unusual places looking for answers..
I have always considered myself strongly connected to the earth and nature
and besides  this time glitch thing has happened all my life but is now becoming more intense and different
 
now  onto the time glitch thing..
 
my belief at this time is that the barrier between dimensions (?  or whatever label you would like) is fading in and out and if you have been a researcher into the not- obvious you are susceptible to the diminishing of  whatever the hell separates these things
I have always believed you need to qualify your terms so you aren’t comparing apples vs oranges in  discussion but I have no idea of what to call this except dimensions..so sorry about that.. I like to be specific and sometimes that leads me to too many words – so dimensions it is for now
 
when I was young and would ask my mom about this or that happening she would look puzzled and then answer with..”you must have dreamt that”..so for a long time I just figured that’s how you got info and believed everyone did it..
 
as I got to be in the library and book stores I would look for substance on that dream info.. that led down some very strange roads and a lifetime of observations and trying to  figure it out...
mostly I have gone with the idea that folks are divided into groups
1.those content with blocking what is happening
2. those who say.. what the hell.. and then forget
3. those who say ...what the hell.. and go looking
I think it has always been there all along but only a few have noticed....why?....
well that goes to another thread altogether about if we reincarnate and if we come with requests to see.. or if we just get hit on the head and curiosity bites you ..pick whatever you like but I’m going back to the dimension thing
 
what Z has described about the forest and his trip and things that weren’t there.. I have had happen  too, actually  it’s happened most of my life
when I was doing endurance completions we (me and my riding buddy) would often come back to camp and ask about a certain piece of beautiful trail.. only to be looked at like we should be disqualified for going off the marked trail..sigh  and then  coming home my riding buddy would say what are you talking about when I brought it up..
one trail  out of jamestown ny was 55 miles and we rode back into the Allegheny national Forrest  in pa.
one section affected me so strongly that I found it in a trail book and hubby and I drove back and hiked it.. that trail was closed years ago
but you can still find it in the old hiking books
.. however I was watching a public tv program about geology and a penn state guy was talking about that very spot and a particular rock formation that we hiked to.. and how they had somehow decided it was part of the original gaia... I have never been able to re-find that program after  searching  penn state info and on line info more times than I care to admit.. it just isn’t there...
 
that’s only one of many examples of strangeness..... I know it all happened..I still ask myself why the hell I needed to find that rock formation and still have no answer
 
lately things are getting even a different weird..in that MORE folk are noticing this stuff.. so that tells me that one of two things is occurring
1. the separation of dimensions is fading
or
2. folks are not able to ignore what has always been there
 
ah ha.. to me  the bigger question is WHY is this now more obvious....
if
time is getting shorter..(double meaning on that.. lol)
if the poles (magnetic)  are shifting
if the frequencies are amping up
if the earth is about to enter it’s next phase –
if we are aware.. what should we do besides observe?
 
so glad to have you guys join me on this trip but what now..I think we need to do more than just notice the facts of it
 
 
I think it’s way too long now..but I could go on
 
be nice to each other..
 
formerly otter  now no label that fits
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2017, 12:27:41 PM
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if you want to use it
here’s a pic of the rock formation   it’s actually on the cover of this hiking book from 1990
 
 
 
https://www.amazon.com/Allegheny-National-Forest-Hiking-Guide/dp/B01DAE3YF0
 
Allegheny Group
Allegheny National Forest Hiking Guide

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Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on February 17, 2017, 03:51:59 PM
Hey Space Otter,

Makes complete sense to me. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on February 17, 2017, 04:04:46 PM
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/jcpennymandelaeffect-148636077284nkg_zpsehyizu7y.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/jcpennymandelaeffect-148636077284nkg_zpsehyizu7y.jpg.html)

Look at this and tell me there is nothing going on!

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Old+jc+penney+sign&FORM=HDRSC2
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2017, 04:51:10 PM
It is obviously the wolf and lamb.  Lions live on hot plains and sheep live in the colder hills like wolves. :P ::)

Is it? Christianity started in ROME  :P The Romans fed Christian lambs to the Lions in the Coleseum  not Wolves

And since Rome was founded by a WOLF, the wolf was not feeding on Christians :P

So the LION makes a lot more sense that the Wolf

And since my parents were Lutheran I had to go to bible school as a kid  and they taught us the Lion and the lamb  and that only TWO of each animal got on the ark :P

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Norval on February 17, 2017, 08:06:16 PM
That is a very STUPID reply...  Of COURSE reading it would show what it says NOW... not what it said BEFORE  and all you did was evade the question... and we don't know what YOU recall... Wolf or Lion

Silly Lemming


That is the biggest problem with this effect... those from THIS current timeline would not see anything amiss  and those anyone that says they recall it as being different would be treated as if they were crazy, delusional or have a faulty memory.

But as Biggles just pointed out the effect is getting stronger and more people are becoming aware that something is going on...

Sorry, the original post got lost for a bit, this was what else I had offered.

  "IF" people would actually READ THE "most Holey Writing" BOOK, they might just get some of the quotes correct.

Like, "Peace on earth, good will towards men."
REALITY
 "Peace on earth towards men of good will."

Read it and stop quoting "religious dogma", , , ,  ,please!

geeeee I hope that don't offend someone's poor sensitive ears  ::)  :P  ;D
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Amaterasu on February 18, 2017, 08:55:46 AM
Sorry, the original post got lost for a bit, this was what else I had offered.

  "IF" people would actually READ THE "most Holey Writing" BOOK, they might just get some of the quotes correct.

Like, "Peace on earth, good will towards men."
REALITY
 "Peace on earth towards men of good will."

Read it and stop quoting "religious dogma", , , ,  ,please!

geeeee I hope that don't offend someone's poor sensitive ears  ::)  :P  ;D

The point is...  What We read there today is different from what We read yesteryear.  Reading it NOW is no proof it's always been that for ALL of Us. 
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 18, 2017, 09:08:32 AM
The point is...  What We read there today is different from what We read yesteryear.
One correction: what we read there today is different from what We remember reading yesteryear. :)

The fact is that there's no way of proving that we read something in the past.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Amaterasu on February 18, 2017, 09:18:09 AM
One correction: what we read there today is different from what We remember reading yesteryear. :)

The fact is that there's no way of proving that we read something in the past.

While I will give You that, that We cannot prove what We read in the past, My point was that, as We cannot prove it one way or another, to point to what is there now is no proof it has always been that way.

BTW, did You read My experiences with the thing We are calling "the Mandela effect?"  How would You explain what I have experienced?  Seeing "The Berenstein Bears" and specifically noting the pronunciation of the "ei" a hundred and more times, and learning to spell "fruit" from the box of Fruit Loops...
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 18, 2017, 09:32:28 AM
BTW, did You read My experiences with the thing We are calling "the Mandela effect?"
I did.

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How would You explain what I have experienced?  Seeing "The Berenstein Bears" and specifically noting the pronunciation of the "ei" a hundred and more times, and learning to spell "fruit" from the box of Fruit Loops...
Bad memories or bad information. How can we know that when you looked at "Berenstain" you didn't read "Berenstein"? We all do that from time to time, reading something that isn't there, like the Panascanic phone my colleague bought.

To me, this whole "Mandela effect" thing is more a social experiment than anything else. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Amaterasu on February 18, 2017, 10:37:29 AM
I did.
Bad memories or bad information. How can we know that when you looked at "Berenstain" you didn't read "Berenstein"? We all do that from time to time, reading something that isn't there, like the Panascanic phone my colleague bought.

To me, this whole "Mandela effect" thing is more a social experiment than anything else. :)

ROFL!  Yeah, for years I just "misread" and misHEARD.  And what about My memory of learning to spell "fruit?"  With the box of Fruit Loops in front of Me?  No, ArMaP...  Sorry.  That will not fly.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 18, 2017, 10:53:19 AM
ROFL!  Yeah, for years I just "misread" and misHEARD.
It's possible.

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And what about My memory of learning to spell "fruit?"
I didn't comment on that because I didn't understand what you wrote.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Amaterasu on February 18, 2017, 11:57:40 AM
It's possible.
I didn't comment on that because I didn't understand what you wrote.

ArMaP, what are the PROBABILITIES that I would both mis-read, being VERY sensitive to "ei" and not at all sensitive to "ai" AND misHEAR - for YEARS?  about 9,999,999,999,999 to 1, I would say.

You didn't grasp about "Fruit Loops" vs what it now "has always been," "Froot Loops?"  I learned to spell the word, "fruit" by reading the cereal box.  It said "Fruit Loops."  I asked My mother why the "oo" sound in "fruit" was spelt "ui."  She responded that a lot of english words are spelt strangely, but that was the way "fruit" was spelt and that I had better learn to spell it that way.  But now...

It "has always been" "Froot Loops."

Clearly I would NOT have been able to learn to spell "fruit" properly by reading My box of "Froot Loops" if that was how it was FOR ME back then.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 18, 2017, 01:26:33 PM
You didn't grasp about "Fruit Loops" vs what it now "has always been," "Froot Loops?"
When I first read, no, I didn't understand it, but now that I reread it I understand it. It may be a case of false memories.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Amaterasu on February 18, 2017, 03:32:23 PM
When I first read, no, I didn't understand it, but now that I reread it I understand it. It may be a case of false memories.

I doubt that very much.  I thought about that lesson many times through the years - each time I saw an new english word with weird spelling.  That's why I remember it so well.  Again, the probability that it is a "false" memory is down to 9,999,999,999,999 to 1.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: rdunk on February 18, 2017, 08:29:32 PM
Zorgon said, "Somewhere in Revelations was the part about shortening of days.  Now if Rdunk or Norval who know that book would play nice :P and find it that would be a big help.

No I am NOT going to "read the book" to get answers to one question. This is why we have a TEAM here :P

Revelation 8:12-13New King James Version (NKJV)"
_______________________________________________________________

Hey Z, as you say, "the shortening of days" is definitely biblical scripture, but hat is not a particular area that I have specifically studied. However, there is considerable writing about this subject on the net that does address it in detail, but still leaves it open for what is the reality of it.

I will take one "interesting" article for this discussion and present it here, so maybe we can get some feel for how this shortening of days might play out.

The Article - "Except Those Days be Shortened"

In His discourse about the end times, Jesus said, "And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened" (Matthew 24:22). "And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom He hath chosen, He hath shortened the days" (Mark 13:20). What does this mean?

Three possible interpretations are: 1) the individual days are shortened, 2) the tribulation period is shortened, and 3) Satan's days are cut short. You may know of others, but we'll discuss these three. And finally, we'll discuss the pre-wrath variation on this.

Of these three interpretations, one of them has other Scriptures to support it, one has other Scriptures against it, and one has no direct Scriptures that I know of either for it or against it.

Read the full details of this discussion: http://www.rapturesolution.com/beechick/Gray/Shortday.htm


 

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on February 18, 2017, 08:49:20 PM
I interpret it as 'no flesh will be saved' except the elect whose days will be shortened.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Pimander on February 21, 2017, 06:16:13 AM
There is no point in trying to understand the Book of Revelation without a grounding in Kabbala.

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“And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations”

The river is consciousness flowing from Kether/God/The Source.  The tree is the Kabbalistic Tree of Life.

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on February 22, 2017, 11:07:43 AM
How many remember The Home Depot, being just Home Depot?

It still is Home Depot in the province of Quebec.  They have a law there where names and advertising have to be prominantly in french.  Leaving the "THE" off may be to have it closer to being french.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/quebec-cracks-down-on-english-brand-names-forces-prominent-french-signage-to-be-included

Anyways. for me, seeing "The" looks strange and not the way I remember.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on February 22, 2017, 06:39:50 PM
How many remember The Home Depot, being just Home Depot?

It still is Home Depot in the province of Quebec.  They have a law there where names and advertising have to be prominantly in french.  Leaving the "THE" off may be to have it closer to being french.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/quebec-cracks-down-on-english-brand-names-forces-prominent-french-signage-to-be-included

Anyways. for me, seeing "The" looks strange and not the way I remember.

I've read numerous reasons why people are affected, but I know its not going away.  The flat earthers got me head spinning as well Mic.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 04, 2017, 10:40:46 PM

perhaps some of this stuff can explain  the time glitches..
perhaps the gravitation waves are affecting us as if we were on a big blanket and it is being shaken.....rolling us around
or maybe we are going thur portals and not realizing what is happening during the experience


hummm 2012 gets a mention  - maybe the wrold we knew did end and we are version 0.?


Hidden Portals in Earth's Magnetic Field


June 29, 2012: A favorite theme of science fiction is "the portal"--an extraordinary opening in space or time that connects travelers to distant realms.  A good portal is a shortcut, a guide, a door into the unknown. If only they actually existed....

It turns out that they do, sort of, and a NASA-funded researcher at the University of Iowa has figured out how to find them.

"We call them X-points or electron diffusion regions," explains plasma physicist Jack Scudder of the University of Iowa.  "They're places where the magnetic field of Earth connects to the magnetic field of the Sun, creating an uninterrupted path leading from our own planet to the sun's atmosphere 93 million miles away."
A new ScienceCast video explains how hidden portals form--and how we can find them. Play it
Observations by NASA's THEMIS spacecraft and Europe's Cluster probes suggest that these magnetic portals open and close dozens of times each day.  They're typically located a few tens of thousands of kilometers from Earth where the geomagnetic field meets the onrushing solar wind.  Most portals are small and short-lived; others are yawning, vast, and sustained.  Tons of energetic particles can flow through the openings, heating Earth's upper atmosphere, sparking geomagnetic storms, and igniting bright polar auroras.

NASA is planning a mission called "MMS," short for Magnetospheric Multiscale Mission, due to launch in 2014, to study the phenomenon. Bristling with energetic particle detectors and magnetic sensors, the four spacecraft of MMS will spread out in Earth's magnetosphere and surround the portals to observe how they work.

Just one problem:  Finding them.  Magnetic portals are invisible, unstable, and elusive.  They open and close without warning "and there are no signposts to guide us in," notes Scudder.

(https://smd-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/science-red/s3fs-public/styles/large/public/mnt/medialibrary/2012/06/29/polardata_med.jpg?itok=KzLPjkpf)
Computer models based on data from NASA's Polar spacecraft, circa 1998, provided crucial clues to finding magnetic X-points.
Actually, there are signposts, and Scudder has found them.

Portals form via the process of magnetic reconnection.  Mingling lines of magnetic force from the sun and Earth criss-cross and join to create the openings. "X-points" are where the criss-cross takes place.  The sudden joining of magnetic fields can propel jets of charged particles from the X-point, creating an "electron diffusion region."

To learn how to pinpoint these events, Scudder looked at data from a space probe that orbited Earth more than 10 years ago.

"In the late 1990s, NASA's Polar spacecraft spent years in Earth's magnetosphere," explains Scudder, "and it encountered many X-points during its mission."

Because Polar carried sensors similar to those of MMS, Scudder decided to see how an X-point looked to Polar. "Using Polar data, we have found five simple combinations of magnetic field and energetic particle measurements that tell us when we've come across an X-point or an electron diffusion region. A single spacecraft, properly instrumented, can make these measurements."

This means that single member of the MMS constellation using the diagnostics can find a portal and alert other members of the constellation. Mission planners long thought that MMS might have to spend a year or so learning to find portals before it could study them.  Scudder's work short cuts the process, allowing MMS to get to work without delay.

It's a shortcut worthy of the best portals of fiction, only this time the portals are real. And with the new "signposts" we know how to find them.

The work of Scudder and colleagues is described in complete detail in the June 1 issue of the Physical Review Letters.


Author:  Dr. Tony Phillips | Production editor: Dr. Tony Phillips | Credit: Science@NASA

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http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/gravitational-waves-the-impact-on-you-me-and-the-world-1276695
Gravitational Waves - The Impact On You, Me And The World
World | Agencies | Updated: February 12, 2016 15:57 IST
NEW YORK:  After decades of research and nearly a billion dollars, some of the world's smartest people have managed a super-feat: they've detected gravitational waves.

The discovery means scientists have found a new way to measure, further explore our universe, and understand how Earth was created in the so-called Big Bang.

What's being billed as the biggest scientific breakthrough in 100 years is based on the LIGO method (more on that in just a bit). Experts say it's near-certain to win a Nobel Prize, but deciding which of the nearly 1,000 scientists involved across the world should be nominated could be challenging.

And in the meantime, what does it mean for you and me? Scientists hope to uncover more detail about how not just the earth, but the entire universe, was formed.

Now, the LIGO (Laser Interferometer Gravitational-wave Observatory). The machines that gave scientists their first-ever glimpse at gravitational waves are the most advanced detectors ever built for sensing tiny vibrations in the universe.
 
(http://i.ndtvimg.com/i/2016-02/ligo_650x400_41455272447.jpg)
The Laser Interferometer Gravitational-wave Observatory (LIGO) Livingston Laboratory detector site is located near Livingston, Louisiana.
The Ligo method means that scientists are not confined to just looking at the universe, but can listen to it. "Until now, astronomy has been almost exclusively a visual enterprise: Scientists have relied on light, visible and otherwise, to observe the cosmos," reports The Washington Post.

A billion years ago, two very large deep holes, each with the mass of about 30 suns, were orbiting each other faster and faster till they collided. From that violent merger, a wobble of energy moved through deep space and landed on Earth in September in the US.

Here's why studying black holes and their collisions is important for scientists. "The gravity of large objects warps space and time, or 'spacetime' as physicists call it, the way a bowling ball changes the shape of a trampoline as it rolls around on it. Smaller objects will move differently as a result," explain The Washington Post's experts.

So far, scientists had been deprived of direct evidence of black holes colliding.

Caltech's Kip Thorne, a lead player in the experiment, says none of this is likely to facilitate time travel. So just get to work on time already.

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and my searching for info has me here too..



https://mms.gsfc.nasa.gov/index.html
The Magnetospheric Multiscale Mission
MMS in formation
Project Description:
MMS investigates how the Sun’s and Earth’s magnetic fields connect and disconnect, explosively transferring energy from one to the other in a process that is important at the Sun, other planets, and everywhere in the universe, known as magnetic reconnection. Reconnection limits the performance of fusion reactors and is the final governor of geospace weather that affects modern technological systems such as telecommunications networks, GPS navigation, and electrical power grids. Four identically instrumented spacecraft measure plasmas, fields, and particles in a near-equatorial orbit that will frequently encounter reconnection in action.

Science Goals:
MMS reveals, for the first time, the small-scale three-dimensional structure and dynamics of the elusively thin and fast-moving electron diffusion region. It does this in both of the key reconnection regions near Earth, where the most energetic events originate.

Mission Objective:

By observing magnetic reconnection in nature, MMS provides access to predictive knowledge of a universal process that is the final governor of space weather, affecting modern technological systems such as communications networks, GPS navigation, and electrical power grids. MMS will establish knowledge, methods and technologies applicable to future space weather missions and the future growth and development of space weather forecasting.
The four identically instrumented MMS spacecraft fly in an adjustable pyramid-like formation that enables them to observe the three-dimensional structure of magnetic reconnection. This enables them to determine whether reconnection occur in an isolated locale, everywhere within a larger region at once, or traveling across space. MMS sensors will measure charged particle velocities, as well as electric and magnetic fields, with unprecedented (milliseconds) time resolution and accuracy needed to capture the elusively thin and fast-moving electron diffusion region. MMS probes reconnection of solar and terrestrial magnetic fields in the dayside and nightside of Earth’s magnetosphere, the only natural laboratory where it can be directly observed by spacecraft.

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 06, 2017, 09:20:30 PM
i was typing this to Z and thought maybe it should be here for more discussion

well that whole madella thing is imo just humans making errors that then go viral...
how many times have you heard of the internet having some movie star dead..TILL the next day..now they say it's a hoax.. but it has happened in the past also
 
i remember the mandella thing.. he was in prison and very sick with pnuemonia or something and they thought he was going to die and they reported that..then some paper got ahead of themselves in printing his obit with his life story....it was only out  for a short time..not sure if it was even an entire day..when it was corrected to say that he was NEAR death but not dead....then in a week or so he was better...
the penny thing and the bear thing.. just lazy writting that went viral..with the internet  it's out and broadcast before anyone does a fact check..so that doesn't impress me much
 a lot like these twitter things that get posted and then deleted but someone has taken a screen shot and it lives forever.....
what if ten years from now you find the saved (what was deleted post) and nothing else...you would swear that was it and not know anything else..i think that is what has happened with most of the madella stuff.. and it's something to talk about..
like a twlight zone episode
 
i have had things dissappear and return  (some not) for years.. back in the 80's the thing was it was spirits playing and all you had to do was tell them to bring it back
or whatever..
bascially you were giving yourself an auto suggestion to find whatever you couldn't find...happens all the time.. nothing really mysterious about it..unless you make it woo-woo stuff
 
however..being in one spot  and a second later being in another spot.. that is a bit different than road daze, i think
haven't you ever had road daze?..which happens when you drive the same route a lot.. like going to and coming from work...
 i've had that happen.. you start out and in minutes ( in stead of an hour) and  there you are at your destination...or some daze it would seem to take soooo much longer than normal...  and you go.. what?!!!!
that's all well documented stuff and has happened  to many
 

your loosing the wagon in a small space.. 
 it made me  remember the brigadoon movie where the village only showed up  once a century?...
i was thinking about it when i was reading thru the thread and looked it up  to see who wrote it.. and it was Learner and  of course i can't find the piece now to put here but i'll go look for it (i'll see if i call to it what happens)
Lerner said he made it up but then after conversations found that there were many legions about this happening...

soooo what are we left with ?.....i'm still thinking about it

maybe someone has more info

going searchin

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ok wasn't that hard to find again ..only pieces from the link
and ah yes the "unconscious coincidence"...hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigadoon


The New York Times's theatre critic George Jean Nathan wrote that Lerner's book was based on a much older German story by Friedrich Gerstäcker, later translated by Charles Brandon Schaeffer, about the mythical village of Germelshausen that fell under a magic curse.[10] However, Lerner denied that he had based the book on an older story, and, in an explanation published in The New York Times, stated that he didn't learn of the existence of the Germelshausen story until after he had completed the first draft of Brigadoon.[11][12] Lerner said that in his subsequent research, he found many other legends of disappearing towns in various countries' folklore, and he pronounced their similarities "unconscious coincidence".[11]





http://www.masterworksbroadway.com/blog/how-original-is-brigadoon-by-peter-filichia/

I mentioned this issue when lecturing on Brigadoon at Ohio Light Opera in July. Afterward I was approached by Steven Ledbetter, a noted musicologist who’s fluent in German. He offered me his translation of Germelshausen, which I gratefully accepted.

Ledbetter’s preface states that Germelshausen is “the single most obvious and significant source for the plot of Alan Jay Lerner’s libretto. Lerner always resisted rumors that there was a folk tale or an ‘old story’ behind his plot. But composer Frederick Loewe had been born and raised in Vienna. Among speakers of German, Gerstäcker would have been a familiar name. Loewe might well have read Germelshausen as a child or heard the story told to him. He might then have mentioned enough details of it to Lerner to give him an idea for the musical almost without his being aware of its literary origins. Certainly the basic elements of Germelshausen are so similar to those of Brigadoon that some connection seems indicated.”

Let’s see if we agree based on the work itself, which is set in the 1840’s – coincidentally enough, the time that Lerner established as Brigadoon’s last previous appearance, a hundred years before 1947.   A German man named Arnold wanders (alone, unlike Tommy, who has Jeff by his side) into Germelshausen. Gerstäcker identifies him as a sketch artist by trade, which is more than Lerner tells us about Tommy; he never does reveal what the guy does for a living back in ol’ NYC.

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 07, 2017, 01:47:20 PM

perhaps some of this stuff can explain  the time glitches..
perhaps the gravitation waves are affecting us as if we were on a big blanket and it is being shaken.....rolling us around
or maybe we are going thur portals and not realizing what is happening during the experience


hummm 2012 gets a mention  - maybe the world we knew did end and we are version 0.?

Well Star Trek did cover this possibility   The NEXUS wave

It was like a huge gravity wave that traveled the universe and from time to time touched planets and things time related happened.  Gene Roddenberry had vision and several times made some awesome predictions  (like the small A drive computer cards :P 0

NEXUS
A nonlinear temporal continuum in which reality appears to reshape itself in fulfillment of a person's innermost wishes, accessed by way of an energy ribbon that crosses the galaxy every 39 years. The few who have been to the nexus and returned describe it as a euphoric experience, like "being wrapped in joy."

(http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/nexus-stvii.jpg)

1947 was a NEXUS year  I did a whole page on listing the important things that changed in the world in that year but can not find it righty now

1947 was the year FLYING SAUCERS became a reality 
1947 was Roswell when the UFO craze began
Central Intelligence Agency was created on July 26, 1947
Mahatma Gandhi begins march for peace in East-Bengali Jan 2 1947
Jan 4 Emilio G. Segrè and Carlo Perrier announce technetium, a previously unknown element and the first artificially synthesized chemical element
Feb 20 State of Prussia ceases to exist.

The Nag Hammadi Codices and the Dead Sea Scrolls - 1947 Nexus
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/scrolls_deadsea/scrolls_deadsea03.htm

There are naturally many events happen every year but 1947 was very important especially in topics related to what pegasus looks at. I will find that page  I am sure its in the work files somewhere

I cannot find much more online right now about NEXUS years  but I will get back to it

The 'slipping through portals' unnoticed is what is currently my MAIN theory especially considering the military reports I have of "naturally occuring portals". the NASA study you reposted above, the work many have done around the world attempting to open these portals (Brian Allen at Roslin Chapel; Bigelow at Skinwalker ranch; etc)

It is also my theory that Loch Nes, Bigfoot and yeti sitings are better explained by brief portal openings and that is why there is no hard evidence to find

IMO it's all connected  I just haven't had time to piece it all together
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 07, 2017, 02:10:05 PM
the penny thing and the bear thing.. just lazy writting that went viral..with the internet  it's out and broadcast before anyone does a fact check..so that doesn't impress me much

I would agree with you on that except that Micjer dug up his photo album from HIS memories and we have THIS

(http://thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/JCPenny_001.jpg) 

So I would say that debunks the "lazy writing" theory :P

What I find fascinating is that the photo exists  because in all previous cases I looked at the photos all changed to reflect the current timeline  THIS one didn't 


We cannot just brush off the little changes as insignificant because it's the little changes that show up more frequently

Like in Back to the Future  when Marty finally repaired the damge to the timelines they created, when he got back home there were small changes   but as he said  "Close enough"

Same in Sliders  when they finally got home it was CLOSE but there were minor differences that were not of major importance in the sheme of things, but they were noticable

So how about TINKERBELL?  Flying over the Disney Castle writing the name and dotting the "i" with her wand?


Never happened :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wZZRjBMIr0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk6Eqhm98l8
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 07, 2017, 03:02:03 PM


random comments

on the pic i can see a Jcpenn  and that's it.. so if there's more the pic needs to be centered better

also a lot of small retail folk will do a name similair to a main chain  cause people are easily fooled
or the company that put the sign up had to fix it later - to find that out you would need place and time line and local info

you and others here are constantly bringing up tv progams/stories to strengthen your point of view..i have seen some of that stuff way after it was popular..and i think they are good to mention but not as a true happening..mostly they can be used to smack an idea into existence for someone who watched to "make it so"..lol

there is someone who used to be here (and i think still is) who has a pic of a portal with a being(?) emerging.. hopefully that person will step forward and share
and guess what it was taken in texas..sorry i can't remember where


on the tinkerbell.. hey they change ads don't ya know....how much of what your parents told you they saw have you seen..  things do change..
remember the whole story of space that disney did way back (bet ya don't but i posted it on here somewhere in a different conversation)

i'm, not trying to knock any of the theories..just narrow down the possibilities of what is actually happening
you know.. what Arthur Conan Doyle said
Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 07, 2017, 03:31:23 PM
on the pic i can see a Jcpenn  and that's it.. so if there's more the pic needs to be centered better

Seriously?  WOW I can clearly see the "y"




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there is someone who used to be here (and i think still is) who has a pic of a portal with a being(?) emerging.. hopefully that person will step forward and share
and guess what it was taken in texas..sorry i can't remember where


Don't recall that one


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on the tinkerbell.. hey they change ads don't ya know....how much of what your parents told you they saw have you seen..  things do change..

yes things change, logo's change but I saw that Tinkerbell intro on all the disney movies i watched years ago...  and there is no trace of it now.  I understand you are wanting to give this whole deal a mundane logical explanation, but it's not working :P  IF it was a company change, then pulling up old copies of the videos would still have it.  If the old VHS videos do NOT have it, well people can make spelling errors to be sure, but they don't imagine or make up a whole intro scene

As to you seeing only the JCpenn  in that photo.... oddly enough when i wrote that commeny my first thought was to say "unless it appears different to people in THIS timeline"  Most interesting that you do not see the "Y"

So I did a screen cap up what I see in the pasted image  If you still cannot see the "Y"  then "Houston we have a serious problem"

http://thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/JCPenny_002.png



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remember the whole story of space that disney did way back (bet ya don't but i posted it on here somewhere in a different conversation)

I assume you mean the Disney UFO one?  Yes I have that

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i'm, not trying to knock any of the theories..just narrow down the possibilities of what is actually happening
you know.. what Arthur Conan Doyle said
Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

Fair enough :P  but Tinkerbell WAS a reality and now she is gone :P


Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 07, 2017, 03:38:11 PM

hey you don't recall the portal thing cause it wasn't on here it was a personal conversation between me and that person

what i was saying is that  the pic is cut off on my screen and that's why i can't see anymore of if.. in you link i could see half of the Y
the text area of the thread is  not as large as it used to be and i don't know if it is me or what..

i also remember tinkerbell every sunday cause that was main entertainment..
but not everything has been saved.. why else would they have the way back machine stuff?
and the fact that not everything is on line is another reason to keep your books and letters and stuff..
info is being funneled

so there :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: dreb13 on March 07, 2017, 03:53:36 PM
Tinkerbell is still there, it varies from movie to movie. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHhkzBmhRE
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 07, 2017, 04:05:09 PM
I don't see the "Y" right away either. I have to move pictures and videos around to see everything.

It's just a forum formatting issue.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 07, 2017, 04:08:44 PM


Thanks Irene

i just went to my profile to see if i could change anything but no improvement on the size of the text box
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 07, 2017, 04:16:16 PM
Tinkerbell is still there, it varies from movie to movie. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHhkzBmhRE


Interesting collection of intros, but I did not see the one in which I remember every Sunday afternoon.  Large tinkerbell appears on left side with wand and dots the I.   
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 07, 2017, 04:26:20 PM

Thanks Irene

i just went to my profile to see if i could change anything but no improvement on the size of the text box
Otter, all you have to do, with the image on screen, is hold control and push minus one time
 I had the same issue until Thor told me...

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 07, 2017, 04:32:31 PM


seeker
do i need to be on the pic or do i just do that to change the whole space..or do i do it every time
thanks..big hugs
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 07, 2017, 05:01:03 PM
hey you don't recall the portal thing cause it wasn't on here it was a personal conversation between me and that person

Ah that would explain it :P

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what i was saying is that  the pic is cut off on my screen and that's why i can't see anymore of if.. in you link i could see half of the Y
the text area of the thread is  not as large as it used to be and i don't know if it is me or what..

It is you :P

There are several fixes  #1 control + or - adjucts the size of the view of a page (works on all programs FYI) I use it a lot to read small text
#2  RIGHT MOUSE CLICK on image and select 'view image' will show the entire image  The forum defaults images to a max of 640 wide  Usually just clicking on the image will also show the entire thing

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i also remember tinkerbell every sunday cause that was main entertainment..
but not everything has been saved.. why else would they have the way back machine stuff?

Not everything has been saved on the internet to be sure and the wayback machine is awesome  BUT that Disney intro WOULD have been saved on all those old VHS copies of the movies :D Since we still have them all in mint condition. I will pull some up and see if the intro is still there

But I am glad you at least remeber it :P I was beginning to worry you were so far out as to be hopelessly lost in space :D


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and the fact that not everything is on line is another reason to keep your books and letters and stuff..
info is being funneled
so there :P

So if its NOT on the old copies of those movies?  Then what? :P  Do the info funnelers have a secret device to erase my video copies? 

So there :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 07, 2017, 05:12:53 PM
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/atinker_zpssfiipz52.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/atinker_zpssfiipz52.jpg.html)

This is close to what I remember.  Perhaps there is a difference between Wonderful World Of Disney and just Disney Movies.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 07, 2017, 08:29:19 PM


So if its NOT on the old copies of those movies?  Then what? :P  Do the info funnelers have a secret device to erase my video copies? 

So there :P



NO  if it is NOT on your old copies then YOU HAVE PROOF  of a flip ..becasue so many do remember those sunday hours of wonder and tinkerbell  flying over and waving her wand..

so
go dig them out.. and if it's NOT on there.. we have to start counting heads to see how many of us are in the group that was switched somehow...

see me being stubborn is  one more step  to figuring this thing out...

cause it isn't enough to know it happened/happens... next step is a plan on what to do with the info



and thanks for the tip on fixing the pic size
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 07, 2017, 08:37:28 PM
count me and my son as two; he is a little wiggy right now over it...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 07, 2017, 09:02:28 PM


ok i must be really bad at following directions cause  control and minus made everything even smaller
soooooooooo
i've been messing around to see what i could have done or can do
and
directly above the pegasus research consortium on the right hand side is a tiny little square
and i clicked on it
and stuff spread out and in that same banner is a slide bar to go left and right and i took it from far left to center
and
WALL LA.. big change and i can see the pic now

 ;D   8)    doin the happy dance here
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 08, 2017, 11:56:42 AM

ok i must be really bad at following directions cause  control and minus made everything even smaller

yes control and minus makes things smaller  but control and plus make things bigger :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 08, 2017, 02:52:51 PM
ok this is interesting


http://consciouslifenews.com/nelson-mandela-didnt-die-prison-matters/1168775/#

Nelson Mandela Didn’t Die in Prison, and Why it Matters
Written by Cynthia Sue Larson OCTOBER 5, 2016 in Quantum Physics
 with 44 Comments


“The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.”   – Mark Twain

If you remember seeing media coverage of Nelson Mandela having died in prison in the 1980s, and you’re wondering why he’s just this month been reported dead again, you’re in good company. Mandela is one of the most commonly discussed celebrities who has been seen alive after having been reported dead. When we personally witness disparities between events we remember having happened and what reliable physical evidence suggests has occurred, we might at first feel a sense of dissonance. Fortunately, we need not stay confused, since noticing the differences between our memories and evidence in our current reality allows us to gain valuable direct experience of how malleable reality can truly be. Recent scientific discoveries suggest it’s quite likely that both this so-called “Mandela Effect,” also known as the “Alive Again” phenomena, are not new, as shamans and spiritual teachers from every continent and age of humankind have described for millennia.

The Mechanism Behind the Mandela Effect

We are fortunate to be alive at a time when scientists from several different branches of physics are converging on the idea that we live in a holographic multiverse… AND that everything including you and me have a truly quantum nature. When we put these two big ideas together, we see the mechanism by which we can understand and appreciate how things like intuition, synchronicity, the placebo effect, and spontaneous remission can transpire.

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Illustration of Holographic Multiverse from “Quantum Jumps: An Extraordinary Science of Happiness and Prosperity”


Evidence supporting the concept of many parallel universes being interconnected comes from UC Berkeley’s Raphael Bousso, whose view of reality has been gaining support ever since last year’s discovery of the Higgs boson. And there is further good news for those wondering, “Where are these other parallel universes?” Some of the first hard evidence of other universes was found just this year by theoretical physicist Laura Mersini-Houghton of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and Carnegie Mellon professor Richard Holman, through cosmic background radiation data collected by the European Space Agency’s Planck telescope, which indicates the presence of other external universes to our own at the very moment of the Big Bang.

What Happens in the Quantum Realm Doesn’t Stay in the Quantum Realm

In much the same way that some people prefer that “what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas,” many physicists have hoped that the weirdness known to happen in the quantum realm would remain safely confined there. This appears to not be the case, as evidenced in recent ground-breaking laboratory experiments over the past few years. Increasing numbers of studies with macroscopic scale objects, such as diamonds, are consistently and repeatedly demonstrating such distinctly quantum behaviors as entanglement–which Albert Einstein once called, “spooky action at a distance.”

Related Article: Quantum Observations: Keeping Schrodinger’s Cat Alive (VIDEO)

Other behaviors previously presumed to reside exclusively within the quantum scale including: superposition of states, coherence, and teleportation are also being witnessed on the macroscopic scale. This is happening to the point that a growing consensus is beginning to form amongst physicists, such as those surveyed at a recent conference that you and I and everyone and everything around us exists in a superposition of states.

This means that in one possible reality, you have not made a decision that resulted in your catching a cold, but in another possible reality, you have. We can expect to occasionally experience quantum jumps from one possible reality to another, particularly when we are aware that such leaps are possible. These jumps from one reality to another can be a lot of fun, as some of the world’s quantum jumping experts can attest.

And who, might you ask, are the world’s quantum jumping experts? Such experts include most of the world’s top athletes, medical miracle experiencers, heroes, survivors of close brushes with death, experienced meditators, beneficiaries of the placebo effect, and people experienced with hypnosis and lucid dreaming have experienced leaps to better possible realities. These people often trust intuition, and benefit from a sense of there being a connectedness between themselves and everyone and everything else.

Evidence of Possible Futures & Pasts

As the saying goes, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.” But how can we find evidence demonstrating that alternate histories occur, when typically the only “proof” we have that a change has occurred resides in our own memories? One way to collect such proof is to rapidly document peoples’ experiences immediately following highly memorable historic events like the Kennedy assassination, the Challenger space shuttle explosion, or Princess Diana’s death. Such flashbulb memories provide reference points by which the same people can later be asked about.

Researchers Ulric Neisser and Nicole Harsch at Emory University investigated flashbulb memories of students immediately following the Challenger space shuttle explosion by collecting handwritten student reactions immediately following the disaster. When they followed up two and a half years later with the very same students, Neisser and Harsch were startled to find that students’ accounts of where they were and what they were doing when they heard the news were different from what they’d initially described. One student said,“That’s my handwriting, but that’s not what happened.”

Kindness Matters

Discrepancies between memories also often appear amongst people who were all together for a particular event, but later remember what transpired very differently. Chances are pretty good that you’ve encountered disagreements with people you’d usually consider competent and aware… except for when they insist something happened some way you know for sure couldn’t be true.

If we didn’t live in a holographic multiverse in which we’re all venturing in various directions to experience a multitude of different possible futures and pasts, we wouldn’t find the tremendous divergence between peoples’ memories. As we enter the Quantum Age, it’s time that we stop calling such differences in memory “false recollections,” in favor of “alternate recollections,” indicating respect for the fact that each and every one of us exists in a superimposed state, with access to many possible alternate histories, presents, and futures.

And most importantly, it’s time we truly show respect for one another and our multitudes of alternate histories and recollections.

Related Article: Your Brain Is Not Your Mind: An Exploration of the True Nature of Consciousness

Further details, explanations, research, examples and references about the ideas presented in this article are provided in Quantum Jumps: An Extraordinary Science of Happiness and Prosperity

go to link and page on down to read all of the comments


reading the comments are proving  interesting..
here are some out takes


My mother has been known to bi-locate.


This is because, reality, is one thing and our perception of reality is quite another.

this must have come from armaps cousin..lol[/color]
As proof of the great lengths the human brain will go to confirm that our perceptions are valid, we are here now relying on quantum physics to ponder the possibility of parallel realities in which the Berenstain Bears were actually spelled Berenstein Bears, rather than admit the possibility of our brains making a common misperception. LOL
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Amaterasu on March 08, 2017, 08:09:17 PM
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/atinker_zpssfiipz52.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/atinker_zpssfiipz52.jpg.html)

This is close to what I remember.  Perhaps there is a difference between Wonderful World Of Disney and just Disney Movies.

Every Disney intro I remember ever seeing had Tink flying in, zipping around while she wrote the Walt sig, flying out, then flying in to dot the "i."  So far I haven't seen what I clearly remember...
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 08, 2017, 09:23:24 PM
Oh I agree with you.  The above pic is the closest I can find to my memory also.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on March 09, 2017, 01:57:53 AM
When I described it to my elder sister she said that she also remembers Tinkerbell dotting the i.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: robomont on March 09, 2017, 04:49:42 AM
Walt kept his dishonorable discharge framed and mounted above and behind  his head .it can be seen in his intros from his desk.
Maybe he popped his commander in the eye and this was reason for discharge.
So this is tinkerbell popping/dotting the eye!
Maybe his commander called him a fag?
Roflmao i bet it is!
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 09, 2017, 07:12:50 AM
 
dear Robo

while i take what you say  very lightly  that little item had me checking it out
here's what i found


https://moviepilot.com/posts/2580742

Which of These 7 Weird Walt Disney Urban Legends Are Actually True?
January 13, 2015 at 09:16AM

3. Walt Disney Was Dishonorably Discharged from the Military

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This story claims that Walt Disney, who had enlisted in the American Ambulance Corp in World War I, was later kicked out of the military for dereliction of duty. It is suggested that Walt abandoned a broken down ambulance in France while waiting for assistance to arrive.


Despite being dishonorably discharged, it is further claimed Walt Disney was actually proud of this fact, and displayed his certificate of service up-side down on his office wall.



This story seems to be based on a tiny bit of truth, and not much else. Walt Disney did attempt to join the army during the First World War, however he was rejected for being underage. Instead, he did find employment with the American Ambulance Corp after the war, which was itself a division of the Red Cross, not the military. Therefore, it was impossible for Disney to be dishonorably discharged from the military.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 09, 2017, 11:30:26 AM
ok this is interesting

yes it is especially THIS part

"Evidence of Possible Futures & Pasts"

When you consider all the recent discoveries made in Quantum Physics and what we have uncovered here at Pegasus regarding projects like LOOKING GLASS  it appears that this 'effect' may be a direct result of scientists monkeying with the Matrix  :D

LOOKING GLASS uses PHASE CONJUGATION  It is basically a project that uses special mirrors to view light rays that are travelling backwards in time  What this means is that the military black ops guys have a device that can view POSSIBLE futures.

The paper is genuine... from Los Alamos National Labs  It is tied in to stargate research and I have extensive material about it.  I once posted this at ATS during the days that Clifford Stone was presenting all his FOIA documents.  It appears the owners of ATS were scared of my REAL papers :P because they put them into Skunkworks, which unlike the real skunkwork's being top secret  cream of the crop, at ATS it is the same as the hoax bin

We talk a lot about "Going down the rabbit hole" when discussing conspiracy stuff. Why do we use that? Because the Military has the "ALICE CODE"  and it shows up in a lot of top secret projects

Project Looking Glass
Los Alamos National Laboratory
Through the Looking Glass with Phase Conjugation


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/04images/Machine/Looking_Glass.png)



Abstract:

Imagine a mirror that reflects more light than was incident, that reflects a beam into the same direction regardless of the mirror's tilt, that eliminates image distortions by causing light rays to retrace their paths as if running backward in time, and that when looked at allows the observer to see absolutely nothing.

Science fiction, you say? Well, such mirrors have been the subject of intense investigation both here at Los Alamos and at other research laboratories around the world. Not only do they exist, but their practical applications may be far-reaching.

Papers:

Through the Looking Glass with Phase Conjugation - (PDF)(Archived)
PROJECT AQUARIUS - (PDF)(Archived)

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/03files/Project_Looking_Glass_LANL.html

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this must have come from armaps cousin..lol[/color]
As proof of the great lengths the human brain will go to confirm that our perceptions are valid, we are here now relying on quantum physics to ponder the possibility of parallel realities in which the Berenstain Bears were actually spelled Berenstein Bears, rather than admit the possibility of our brains making a common misperception. LOL
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Well comments like this are opinions made by people unwilling to even consider the alternative answer MAY be the correct one.  You will find that people like that just LOL at life :P   A good friend of mine on Facebook from the old days of the Guild has changed  When she first contacted me again after years of absence she was really into the conspiracy stuff and had found me via the work on ATS and wrote me asking if I was the 'King Zorgon' of the past...  Now she is ridiculing everything and I will likely have to unfriend her as it is not constructive.

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 09, 2017, 11:48:57 AM

putting some things together

previous post
Imagine a mirror that reflects more light than was incident, that reflects a beam into the same direction regardless of the mirror's tilt, that eliminates image distortions by causing light rays to retrace their paths as if running backward in time, and that when looked at allows the observer to see absolutely nothing.




« Reply #178
A favorite theme of science fiction is "the portal"--an extraordinary opening in space or time that connects travelers to distant realms.  A good portal is a shortcut, a guide, a door into the unknown. If only they actually existed....

It turns out that they do, sort of, and a NASA-funded researcher at the University of Iowa has figured out how to find them.

"We call them X-points or electron diffusion regions," explains plasma physicist Jack Scudder of the University of Iowa.  "They're places where the magnetic field of Earth connects to the magnetic field of the Sun, creating an uninterrupted path leading from our own planet to the sun's atmosphere 93 million miles away."



« Reply #6
On the way out of town, we were suddenly blinded by three bright points on the right hand side of the freeway... the image below is what caused it. 



reply 197, i think  just a few before here
We can expect to occasionally experience quantum jumps from one possible reality to another, particularly when we are aware that such leaps are possible. These jumps from one reality to another can be a lot of fun, as some of the world’s quantum jumping experts can attest.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 09, 2017, 12:11:35 PM
That article you posted from Cynthia Sue Larson

She has a LOT more related to this topic  I need to write her for permission to copy some to Pegasus

The Difference between the Mandela Effect and Manifestation

How to Choose Between Possible Worlds in the Multiverse


and more

http://consciouslifenews.com/author/cynthia/

Looks like most of them were written just late 2016  which explains why i haven't heard from her before  She also has the pages available as PDF's   

This one is off topic but may be of use around here :P

How to discuss politics calmly with anyone
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 09, 2017, 12:26:21 PM
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A good friend of mine on Facebook from the old days of the Guild has changed  When she first contacted me again after years of absence she was really into the conspiracy stuff and had found me via the work on ATS and wrote me asking if I was the 'King Zorgon' of the past...  Now she is ridiculing everything and I will likely have to unfriend her as it is not constructive.

This happened to me with a friend, overnight, in 2008.

She went from a sweet and helpful person to a hardened cynic, overnight.

It was a shock to me. I had to end the "friendship". I have no idea who that person was, but it wasn't my friend.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 09, 2017, 12:42:24 PM
Have not written for express permission yet but Cynthia is on C2C and offers free PDF copies of all het articles

How to Choose Between Possible Worlds in the Multiverse
Written by Cynthia Sue Larson OCTOBER 11, 2016 in Conscious Living, Manifestation

We have a human need to look for evidence when we see something anomalous like a reality shift or Mandela Effect suggesting we might be living in a multiverse. Those seeking evidence of Mandela Effects, also known as reality shifts, find reassurance in others who remember the same alternate histories–that indicate that we are most likely living in not one, but rather many, worlds. But are there other ways we might be able to see some kind of verification that reality shifts are real?

In addition to finding support from others whose memories of facts and events are similar to ours, we can also find further supporting evidence that reality shifts are real in flip-flopping reality shifts / Mandela Effects. Flip-flopping reality shifts provide one with the opportunity to see something change back and forth from one state to another, each time seeming as if it’s always been that way. Noticing such shifts can be especially helpful for providing someone who is unsure whether their mind is playing tricks on them, or a reality shift / Mandela Effect has actually occurred.

One of my recent experiences with a reality shift, aka “Mandela Effect,” has to do with Abraham Lincoln. I recently heard that Abraham Lincoln apparently had a living descendant up until the 1980’s. This was news to me, because when I was recently reading Lincoln’s biography, I remember feeling how sad it was that Lincoln had no living descendants of any kind. And now I’ve just heard that he did have living descendants, according to our current official records and history–which is very cool!

One of the more interesting aspects of reality shifts that I’ve observed over the past 20 years I’ve been studying the reality shift phenomenon is the way that some shifts sometimes flip-flop back and forth between a couple of noticeably different possibilities. Usually the period of time in which I observe this flip-flopping is within a few minutes, days or weeks–after which point things seem to settle down. Many readers of my RealityShifters ezine have also reported this phenomenon, and also noted that there is window of time in which the switching back and forth occurs, after which a kind of stabilization takes hold.

Rain Gutter Flip-Flops 

Right now in October 2016, my next door neighbors currently don’t have leaf guard protectors over their rain gutters, but that has not always been the case. I was surprised one day to look out my dining room window and see something I’d not noticed on the adjacent roof–a beautiful leaf-guard system installed atop the rain gutters on my neighbor’s roof. I did a double-take, while wondering how they’d managed to install such a classy system seemingly without having made any noise. I figured I must have just been away during the installation time, which surely would have been noisy, and left it at that. A day or two later, my gaze naturally wandered along the outlines of my neighbor’s roof, and I was stunned to notice that the rain gutter leaf guard system was gone!

Dog Cataracts Flip-Flops 

I find it helpful to know ‘facts’ can be in a flip-flopping state when, for example, helping intentionally vote for our elderly family dog not having cataracts when he was in his teenage years. When I first noticed his eyes looked like they were developing cataracts, I had an instant emotional reaction of “No!” while feeling a sense of certainty that his eyes would be just fine–and then the next time I looked at him, his eyes were indeed just fine. A day or two later, another family member reported to me that there was sad news–our dog was developing cataracts in his old age. I replied that our dog sometimes looks like he has cataracts, but then his eyes can be seen to be perfectly clear when we look at his eyes again. Fortunately, I live in a house where reality shifts are an accepted part of daily life. Once we’d all agreed this was the case, our elderly dog ‘locked in’ the reality with clear vision and he had no further evidence of cataracts. So, sometimes it helps to have people to assist in bringing greater coherence to a favored, healthier reality.

I include this reality shift flip-flop that I experienced one time while camping in my book, Reality Shifts: When Consciousness Changes the Physical World. I was camping in August 1998 when I noticed that several times after carefully locking all the car doors, I’d return to the car shortly afterward to find a car door unlocked. Sometimes it would be the back right door, sometimes the back left door. I felt flustered, because my intention was to keep the car locked, since my purse, money and valuables were inside! After the first time this happened, I made a concerted effort to double- check the doors were locked. The first door to appear unlocked was the left, then the right door appeared unlocked, and then the left again! I felt consternated but also intrigued. Fortunately, the times this happened I had only been gone from the car for a short time—less than an hour—and the times I was away from the car for more than an hour, it was still locked when I returned to the car.

While making Gravenstein apple pie for a neighborhood block party this month, I was sad to see that we seemed to be out of nutmeg. I hoped there’d be a little bit of nutmeg in the spice cupboard, but after having checked just about every spice container on the shelf, I couldn’t find it.

I visualized that my preferred place for the nutmeg would be on the front left-hand side of the cupboard, as I verified both visually and by shifting spice containers in that area around that it wasn’t there.

Since I am well aware that it’s possible to close a cupboard door, do something else for a bit, and come back to sometimes find an item that wasn’t there before, I did just that. I shut the spice cupboard doors, and walked over to see if I might find the nutmeg on the kitchen counter. It wasn’t there, and I returned to the spice cupboard to open the doors and check again, looking where I hoped to find it in the front left section. I then shut the cupboard doors and repeated the process of busying myself with another inspection of the kitchen counter. I did this whole sequence two or three more times, and then Voila! The nutmeg spice container was on the front left-hand section of the spice shelf, just where I’d hoped to find it originally!

Thoughts about “Reality Residue”

The term “reality residue” is used to describe lingering “smoking gun” evidence of alternate histories that are no longer part of the official historical record. Such anomalies might include, for example, a videotape case or label showing a film title the way some people remember it to be, rather than how any authorized example of such things now exist.

The general idea about “reality residue” is that “other realities” are “out there” and “we are in the real reality.” This kind of old-school conceptualization about what it’s like to live in a multiverse gives people a sense that “some people have come from certain timelines,” rather than the idea that just possibly there IS no “real reality.” Instead, consider the idea that who we are is not so much any physical embodiment of ourselves as it is our conscious awareness–the aspect of ourselves that cannot be created, destroyed, or measured the way scientists surely wish possible.

Some people think if you just go back far enough in time, that you’ll see evidence before the “timeline shift” or whatever they’re thinking happened, that you’ll see evidence before that happened. What I have instead found over 20 years of research–and that doesn’t mean it’s definitive, it’s just what I’ve experienced, and what people have written to me–is usually there’s a consistent history in whatever official history reality you’re in.

So the official history might include people like ourselves–Mandela Effect experiencers, reality shifters, who say, “Yes, I’ve written a description of it, I’ve drawn a picture of it, I’ve simulated what I think I saw. It’s not the real thing, but it’s what I remember.” So you’ll get people’s artistic representations of previous histories, but not the the so-called “smoking gun” physical evidence. But no worries. What I suggest people who are looking for reality residue do in addition to that–because you can keep looking; maybe someone will find something. Usually so far it’s been misprints, typos, things that you can explain away some other way, rather than massive physical evidence that’s overwhelmingly persuasive.

So what I like people to think about is these flip-flops. Look for those. A thought to keep in mind if noticing something that might be “reality residue” is to consider whether this might represent a reality flip-flop. Keep in mind that some flip-flopping can go back and forth between realities a few times, before stability returns and a particular history stays selected. And that can be very strong evidence for the person experiencing it.

The Power of Suggestion Drives “False Memories” and the Placebo Effect

Most any time you see the Mandela Effect covered in mainstream media, you’re likely to see mainstream journalists attempting to sweep Mandela Effects into the dustbin of so-called “false memories” without consideration of the possibility that alternate histories might be real. We do see more thoughtful consideration of the notion of alternate realities covered in news stories about the Placebo Effect.

Intriguingly, the “power of suggestion” is credited both with creating “false memories” (which are hardly ever considered to be a good thing) at one end of the spectrum, and with empowering people to enjoy tremendous placebo effect benefits at the other. Placebo efficacy has doubled over the past 30 years in the United States of America for such areas as: spontaneous remission of debilitating health problems, reduced pain, increased stamina, greater cognitive abilities, and much, much more.

The Placebo Effect is of such tremendous and growing interest that it is now being studied at dedicated research centers, such as the Program in Placebo Studies (PIPS) and the Therapeutic Encounter hosted at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center/Harvard Medical School.

There is a large and growing body of evidence to support the way we can harness the power of suggestion to surf between parallel possible worlds, especially at this time in history when many top scientists consider reality to possibly be a simulation. This simulation viewpoint was even shared by Bank of America Merrill Lynch last month with it’s clients, stating there’s a 20%-50% chance that we’re living in the matrix — meaning that the world we experience as “real” is actually just a simulation. This assertion is backed by scientists Elon Musk, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and Nick Bostrom, who wrote the thought-provoking paper, “Are You Living in a Computer Simulation?”

New paradigms take time to be fully adopted, and what we are witnessing now at this dawn of the Quantum Age is the letting go of the old Aristotelian logic, with its three basic principles of: identity, contradiction, and the excluded middle. Quantum physics has pretty much completely overturned this classical logic apple cart, but the scientific method has not yet adopted the much more comprehensive and complete quantum logic.

So while the mainstream media and mainstream science take time adjusting to the new Quantum Age, we can start enjoying some of the benefits now. Just how good can it get when you benefit from reality shift flip-flops?

You can see the YouTube summary of this blog post below:

http://consciouslifenews.com/make-living-many-worlds/11127002/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6CeYH4GiLE
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 09, 2017, 12:46:24 PM
So here we have a qualified physicist taking the Mandela Effect, maifestation and the Secret and quantum physics and wrapping it all up in a neat package

Thanks for finding this Space Otter... it will save me TONS of work

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Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 09, 2017, 01:22:20 PM


Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 09, 2017, 02:20:28 PM
Z..you're welcome.. we're both heading down the same road looking for answers...

my current question - now that i have some surrounding info to ask questions from  - is
if we can do two places at once or back and forth.. can one of me still be there while another me has shown up here..cause i really feel this may have happened to me and the search continues
switched realities with lots of similarity but not the same..sigh

there are a lot of connections at that link that i am following...meet cha for coffee somewhere in there  :D  8)



i just thought of something that makes me feel better about maybe being stuck in  the 'other' reality is that when my mother would say i must have dreamt it.. maybe i was rolling around in these realities all my life and calling it by a different name..lol others just said i was different or crazy..bwhahahahahahahahah
just more of me than i thought..
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 09, 2017, 02:38:06 PM
What’s Behind the Meteoric Rise of the Mandela Effect
Written by Cynthia Sue Larson AUGUST 8, 2016 in Mysteries, Quantum Physics, Reality Shift, Science


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Unless you’ve been on an extended retreat, you’ve likely heard the term “Mandela Effect” recently. ” While many are surprised by the recent surge of interest in the “Mandela Effect,” those of us who have been researching and writing about this phenomenon of reality shifts and alternate histories have long been anticipating just such a rise of interest. The “Mandela Effect” is named after South African anti-apartheid revolutionary Nelson Mandela, who became a topic of interest in the year 2010 by people noticing with surprise that he was alive at that time–since many people remembered him having died while incarcerated. I had published similar accounts of the dead being observed alive again in my 1999 book, Reality Shifts, and reporting first-hand accounts on the RealityShifters website from people all around the world noticing many dead people alive again. Observations of dead people alive again are just one of many types of Mandela Effects, with other notable examples including changes to song lyrics, movie dialogue, movie scenes, physical geography, physiological anatomy, and product names.

The Mandela Effect is one of those things most people won’t believe in until it happens to them. Like falling in love or going through heartbreak, the Mandela Effect is something you have to experience in order to fully embrace. And even then, it often takes more than one or two experiences to break through the resistance most of us have to accepting the existence of something that fundamentally challenges our unspoken foundational assumption that facts and historical events don’t change. This bias has been poetically expressed in the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam:

“The moving finger writes; and, having writ, moves on:
nor all thy piety nor wit shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
nor all thy tears wash out a word of it.”

(https://cynthiasuelarson.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/mandelaeffecttrendgraph.jpg?w=300)
MandelaEffectTrendGraph
Google trend graph for “Mandela Effect”

When we encounter something indicating evidence that in fact, history has changed–it feels shocking to discover some of the lines have been canceled and washed out! We seem to be approaching ‘tipping point’ where it’s getting harder for scoffers to say there’s no such thing as the Mandela Effect / reality shifts / alternate histories. The term “Mandela Effect” originated with blogger Fiona Broome in 2010 after she attended a conference where many people talked with her about remembering how Nelson Mandela had died many years earlier–though official recorded history at that time indicated no such thing had actually occurred.

Thanks to articles written by some Mandela Effect experiencers, the Mandela Effect shows evidence of increasing in popular awareness. Mandela Effect articles have been written by experiencers including the Lewiston Sun Journal’s Mark LaFlamme (“The Mandela Effect is Freaking Me Out“) who noticed a change on which side of his father he’s standing by in an old family photo;the New Zealand Herald’s Karl Puschmann (“Berenstein or Berenstain? The Riddle Making Book Lovers Mad“) who is certain the popular children’s books ought to be spelled “Berenstein” and not the way they’ve supposedly ‘always been spelled’ as Berenstain; and San Diego City Beat’s Tom Siebert (“Technology and Memory Down the Rabbit Hole“) who noticed a change to a memorable scene in a James Bond movie, “Moonraker,” in which the girl with the braces who fell in love with another character with shining teeth no longer has braces. I watched The James Bond film “Moonraker” several times while in college, and also remember the memorable scene in which the blonde girl named “Dolly” who wears glasses and braids shares a cheesy moment with Richard Kiels’ character, “Jaws,” when they notice how his shiny teeth complement the shiny braces on her teeth. Except now, she doesn’t have any braces on her teeth.

Taken individually–the way such observations of discrepancies between what we remember and recorded historical evidence have always been noted up until now–a single person feeling unsettled by noticing such a change would have been chalked up to their having made some kind of cognitive error. When such “mis-remembered” recollections are considered collectively, we are presented with the possibility that we are witnessing collectively agreed-upon awareness of differently remembered historical facts that we can start to take notice of.

Some scoffers have leapt to the conclusion that Mandela Effect experiencers who are noticing long-familiar words in movies, TV shows, books, and products are most likely suddenly sharing ‘false memories,’ due to the fact that human memories are not fully reliable. Such an explanation allows us to leave unquestioned some old assumptions that have quietly started to crumble at their very foundations since the advent of quantum physics just over a hundred years ago. While quantum physics shows us there can be no such thing as an objective observer, and now that two thirds of physicists recently surveyed agree that you and I and everything that exists does so in a superposition of states–we clearly need to revise both our scientific methodology and our assumptions about reality.

While I agree with the observation that human memories often do not match current historical records, it’s clear that stopping the thought process at that point is premature, and does not match what we are learning about the primacy of quantum logic in the natural world.

I’ve been researching this phenomena since the 1990s. It was originally called “reality shifts,” and first appeared in print in the book “Future Memory” by PMH Atwater to describe common (yet strange) experiences that near-death experiencers frequently have. I have been reporting on individual recollections of alternate histories involving everything from changes in books, to dead people alive again, to changes in the way motor memory works since 1999, in the earliest edition of my first book on this subject, Reality Shifts: When Consciousness Changes the Physical World, and in my free monthly Realityshifters ezine. I’m currently pursuing this Mandela Effect / reality shift topic in interviews with experts in the fields of quantum biology such as JohnJoe McFadden, quantum cognition such as Jerome Busemeyer, and quantum cosmology such as Yasunori Nomura on my blog and “Living the Quantum Dream” radio show. What I’m noticing is that this phenomenon appears to not be new, but rather we have reached a point in society where for the first time we are able to share memories with others that are different from the collective whole–and sometimes our memories show the same kind of alternate pasts that physicists such as Stephen Hawking have told us exist.

When we consider the matter of “confabulation” and “false recollections” at this dawning of the new Quantum Age, we see that we may eventually call such things “alternate recollections,” in recognition of awareness of the fact that we know that each and every one of us exists in a superimposed state, with access to many possible alternate histories, presents, and futures. The idea that the many worlds of quantum physics might be one and the same as the multiverse has been proposed by such esteemed physicists as Dr. Yasunori Nomura and Dr. Raphael Bousso of UC Berkeley, and increasing numbers of scientists are feeling optimistic that we might yet find evidence that we indeed live in a multiverse.

Finding Evidence of Many Worlds in Alternate Histories

There is an exciting human side to the subject of alternate histories and parallel worlds. While we don’t yet have technology to show photos from your past with evidence of parallel universes impinging on the very fabric of reality since the day you were born, we can look to see what kinds of evidence we are able to collect more easily. If we were feeling the effects of parallel universes, we would expect to occasionally notice that history doesn’t stay put. Occasionally, we’d have very different ideas of what happened than we’ve had before, or than others have had before. What would such alternate histories be like?

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Dr. Robert A. Burton recounts a fascinating experience in his book, On Being Certain, of attending a medical school reunion dinner in which conversation turned to where people were when they heard the news that Kennedy was assassinated. Burton and his classmates had all been in their second year of medical school, attending similar classes and hanging out together. An argument broke out amongst the reunion attendees as a urologist thought they were all at lunch, an internist remembered they’d been in the lab, and a pathologist remembered being at a pub down the street from the med center. With classmates turning to Burton to be the tie-breaker, setting history straight, the pathologist and urologist both agreed on one thing as they announced in unison, “Everyone remembers the Kennedy assassination.”

f this was the first time such differences of memory related to significant events occurred, we might dismiss it as a humorous aside. But the fact of the matter is that researchers are increasingly becoming aware of what they call “false recollections.” With the advent of the Quantum Age, we may eventually call them “alternate recollections,” indicating awareness of the fact that we know that each and every one of us exists in a superimposed state, with access to many possible alternate histories, presents, and futures.

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Neisser and Nicole Harsch conducted studies of Emory University students’ accuracy of recollections of events at the time of the Challenger space shuttle explosion, starting by collecting first-hand accounts from 106 students the day after the disaster detailing how they’d heard of the explosion, what they’d been doing at the time, where they were, and how they felt. The researchers followed up with the same students two and a half years later, and were startled to find that students achieved a mean score of 2.95 compared to a perfect score of 7. Less than 10% of the students were able to exactly match their original recollection of events, and over half of the students got a score less than 2.

The most noteworthy findings in this “flashbulb” memory study were student reactions when confronted with conflicting accounts. Many students persisted in confidently claiming that their current memories of events were completely accurate, even when confronted with their own hand-written journal entries. One student summed up what happened succinctly,

“That’s my handwriting, but that’s not what happened.”
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Post by: zorgon on March 09, 2017, 02:38:37 PM
It’s important to note that in this new Quantum Age, such cases of alternate histories are to be expected. They provide evidence of the superposition of states that we and everything around us exists within, so we can expect to occasionally see documented records from the past that differ from what we recall. In the Quantum Age, we understand that seeing our own handwritten notes that aren’t at all what we remember is one way that alternate histories become known.

Physicists Agree: You’re in a Superposition of States

When we understand that our belief structures are creations of our minds, we start noticing how varied individual belief structures can be from person to person. What one person considers to be realistic and matter-of-fact might seem outrageously peculiar to another. Even the idea that other people actually see images in their minds may seem outlandish to some people, let alone what those people see. When enough people shift their belief structures to look at the world in fresh, new ways, cultural paradigms shift.

Staying current with new scientific findings can help. While most non-physicists would likely see a solid physical object such as a table or a chair as only what it currently appears to be, a remarkable 2/3 majority of physicists interviewed in 2011 stated they believe that all objects can exist in superimposed states—much the way we know quantum ‘particles’ exist as energetic probabilities as much as physical particles we can measure and observe. University of Portland, Oregon, physics professor, Maximilian Schlosshauer summarized this remarkable agreement thus,

“More than two-thirds believed that there is no fundamental limit to quantum theory—that it should be possible for objects, no matter how big, to be prepared in quantum superpositions like Schro?dinger’s cat. So the era where quantum theory was associated only with the atomic realm appears finally over.”

A Scientific Basis for Instantaneous Adaptation in Stressful Times

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John Forster Cairns

The scientific assumption that organisms experienced random mutations was seriously shaken by Harvard professor John Forster Cairns 1988 proposal that the organisms themselves were preferentially producing beneficial mutations. Cairns conducted experiments with E. coli bacteria that demonstrated that in times of stress, when the bacteria were starved from food they were capable of digesting, they made “adaptive mutations” to be able to receive nutritive sustenance from a food source they’d never been able to consume before. This phenomenon in which E. coli mutated exactly the most optimal genes precisely when that mutation was required had no known basis nor explanation from established theories in genetics–and indeed seemed to contradict one of the central dogmas of molecular biology, that information only flows in one direction during transcription from DNA out to proteins to a cellular organism environment. John Cairns and Julie Overbaugh and others proposed a mechanism that what might be happening is that “the cell could produce a highly variable set of mRNA molecules and then reverse-transcribe the one that made the best protein.”

If reverse-engineering mutations by bacteria in times of starvation so they can start digesting lactose sounds crazy, it might help to know there exists a similar proven case of successful quantum biological adaptation: photosynthesis. Those who expect modern human technology to be faster and more efficient than the rustic natural world are quite surprised to learn that our best photovoltaic cells are only 20% efficient, compared with photosynthesizing plants and bacteria that regularly achieve 95% efficiency rates for transforming sunlight into energy. Plants have existed on Earth for millions of years, so it’s not too surprising to find that their natural process of photosynthesis likely utilizes quantum coherence to speed things up. In decades past, scientists believed that excited electrons carried energy randomly through photosynthetic systems in plants, hopping from one molecule to the next. More modern measurements of energy in the new field of quantum biology studying photosynthesizing plants indicates something much more efficient is going on. What appears to be happening is that electrons take advantage of the fact that energy can move not just in the material form, but in pure energy form, too, and entire systems of molecules can become entangled to allow the formation of a coherent wave that tries out different pathways simultaneously, until the most efficient route is very quickly determined. The quantum magic happens in each of a photosynthetic cell’s millions of antenna proteins that are surprisingly efficient and robust at routing energy with very little lost in transit.

University of Toronto biophysicist Greg Scholes published his findings of room-temperature quantum coherence behavior in common marine algae in Nature. Scholes describes an analogy of driving home through rush hour traffic to explain what these cells are doing:

“… you have three ways of driving home through rush hour traffic. On any given day, you take only one. You don’t know if the other routes would be quicker or slower. But in quantum mechanics, you can take all three of these routes simultaneously. You don’t specify where you are until you arrive, so you always choose the quickest route.”

Advantages of experiencing alternate realities

My point is that everyone is experiencing reality shifts that usually get brushed aside with the assumption from most social settings being that there has been confusion or misperception (with both parties assuming the other has made some kind of mental mistake). The reason I raise the topic of flashbulb memories in my book, Quantum Jumps, is to share the extraordinary findings of researchers who asked college freshmen immediately following the Challenger space shuttle explosion to write down where they were, what they were doing, and who they were with when they heard the news of this disaster very soon after it first occurred. Then some time later, these same students were again asked the same question before they were allowed to look at their own hand-written accounts. As some put it, “That’s my handwriting, but that’s not what happened.” Thanks to this research and stunning placebo effect results, we now have an opportunity to acknowledge that rather than explaining such reality shifts away as ‘memory lapses’ or confusion, we have always been witnessing the way quantum phenomena occurs at ALL levels of reality, and not only below the so-called “von Neumann cut.” I have a sense that research in these fields is about to lead us to a new level of awareness that facts can change–yet understanding of our true identity as being consciousness can help us best find our way forward in experiencing various possible realities.

What Would You Notice if You’re in a Superposition of States?

What would it feel like to exist in a superposition of states? How could you tell? You might notice things like: markedly different childhood memories from your siblings; spontaneous or speedy healing from illness or injury; different movie dialogue, writing in books, product names, song lyrics, TV shows, and celebrities alive again after being reported dead. In fact, this is precisely what people are reporting with such commonly recognized examples as:

• BerensteinBearsBerenstein Bears VS Berenstain Bears
(https://cynthiasuelarson.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/berensteinbears.jpg?w=300)

• “Mirror mirror on the wall” VS “Magic mirror on the wall”
(https://cynthiasuelarson.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/snowwhitequeenmirror.jpg?w=270)

• Mr. Rogers sings, “It’s a beautiful day in THE neighborhood” VS “It’s a beautiful day in THIS neighborhood”
(https://cynthiasuelarson.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/fredrogers.jpg?w=300)

• Darth Vader says to Luke Skywalker, “Luke, I am your father” VS “No, I am your father”
(https://cynthiasuelarson.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/darthvaderluke.jpg?w=300)

Mandela Effect Reports on the Rise

In addition to some of these commonly reported shared experiences of alternate histories, some people are also remembering other things differently, such as: “If you build it, they will come” instead of now, “If you build it, he will come” and “Jiffy” peanut butter instead of “Jif.” As increasing numbers of honest reporters and authors start running into their own experiences with the Mandela Effect–both the private experiences that only they recognize, and the more publicly shared varieties–we will continue the growing conversation about the Mandela Effect, and why increasing numbers of people are noticing it now.

And in the meantime, I recommend that you keep asking “How good can it get?” to harness imagination and your ability to provide yourself with self-guidance from your highest levels of consciousness. Asking this question helps ensure we are honoring a longer-term, fuller and more harmoniously interconnected optimal experience. We can trust our highest, largest, most comprehensive levels of consciousness, and in so doing we will continue to experience different pasts and instantaneous transformations as we move through these stressful times to more optimal realities.

You can see the YouTube summary of this blog post below:


http://consciouslifenews.com/whats-behind-meteoric-rise-mandela-effect/11124116/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s40aoMlrGbA
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Post by: zorgon on March 09, 2017, 10:12:40 PM
from:

Jerry Griffen (Zenbuoy to some)

via Facebook


I gotcha. It was called Sex IN the City when I was in it

Zorgon:   yup that is another one... so you were actually in that?

Jerry Griffin: Yep, with to Sarah Jessica and on the paystub it said sex in the city
,,,it's a strange world we live in my friend


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Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 10, 2017, 06:34:50 AM
It seems each of us have slightly different memories.  Some of the "list" that have been thrown around, seem correct to me the way they are, while others are definately different.  Little things we may notice in  our own world that only mean something to us seem to be happening also like Irene's Tea cup.

I was looking through my collection of pictures that I have accumulated on photobucket.

The following pics are very interesting yet up until today, I have "never" seen them before.  (At  least in time line)

(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/Iguacu-004_zpse8ffcb9c.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/Iguacu-004_zpse8ffcb9c.jpg.html)


(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/japan1_zps4b3ad81f.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/japan1_zps4b3ad81f.jpg.html)


Not sure how they got downloaded.  I remember all of the other pics around them.

Here is another one. I don't even know what it is!!

(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/miners1.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/miners1.jpg.html)
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Post by: micjer on March 10, 2017, 06:41:29 AM

(https://cynthiasuelarson.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/jfkcar1963nov22.jpg?w=300)

Ok I have memories of only 4 people in this car.  I remember a theory that the passenger in front seat shot JFK as there is spot where it looks like a gun being pointed backwards.  I don't remember partition in car either.

With that theory, there were not 2 people in between.  Some however remember 6 people all along.
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Post by: The Seeker on March 10, 2017, 06:58:39 AM
Mic, there were 6 people: JFK, Jackie K, John and Missus Connally, plus 2 secret service agents, one driving and one riding shotgun, and yes the divider was there since it was a limo...

Zorgon, remember that sundial? Look at this pic of the spare Rover out at JPL

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10004/800px-PIA15279_3rovers-stand_D2011_1215_D521_28229.jpg)

look at the sundial...

 8)

Seeker
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Post by: ArMaP on March 10, 2017, 07:10:55 AM
Here is another one. I don't even know what it is!!

(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/miners1.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/miners1.jpg.html)
Seeing the Chile flag in the picture I thought it could be from that occasion in which several miners got stuck on a mine. An image search lead me to this article (http://web.archive.org/web/20100825043408/http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_570595.html).
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on March 10, 2017, 07:21:00 AM
Thanks for that image, seeker, since the beginning that I was thinking that there was an older (maybe) version of the sundial that was like that. :)

Here's a brightened version (taken from a bigger version of that image).
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/Sun_dial.jpg)
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Post by: micjer on March 10, 2017, 07:27:17 AM
Right you are.  I still dont remember pic, however.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 10, 2017, 07:53:21 AM
Thanks for that image, seeker, since the beginning that I was thinking that there was an older (maybe) version of the sundial that was like that. :)

Here's a brightened version (taken from a bigger version of that image).
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/Sun_dial.jpg)
Cool  8) no gear on the spindle  :P

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10004/thumb_Sun_dial.jpg)

 8)

Seeker
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Post by: space otter on March 10, 2017, 08:46:14 AM


geeeze guys.... i'm super glad  you all recognize the differences in your memories
but does anyone have anything at all to say to the theory presented as to why they are different ?     ?       ?

sorry but i feel that part of me is stuck somewhere so my main reason for following down this particular rabbit hole is to figure out  if and how to rectify that
so i'ld really really appreciate any  thing else you have to say besides memories of the things named and named again as being different....

emotions?...family / friends /  acquaintances seeing it differently at the time you noticed and  a discussion  as to why...
i'm looking for the trigger point, if there is one
perhaps we have control of this and perhaps we don't

i'm thinking of Z and his mirrors along the road affecting him as he has
 thoughts/beliefs of the gov with the looking glass stuff
does this need a physical trigger or do you need a belief system in stuff?

i was very open to anything when younger..no restrictions and no tv/movie influences  so my trips seem to be all over the place with content..
i have memories of being places i know i have never been in the physical but knowledge of them..details i couldn't have gotten from reading...

come on guys..think about it and speak up..we may be on the way to multiple lives we can access at will and move thur

ok sorta rant over....

hugs
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Post by: micjer on March 10, 2017, 09:26:04 AM
I would place money on one of these horses.

1)CERN

CERN experiment to test if we can connect to another dimension

http://www.zmescience.com/science/cern-experiment-dimension-23845234/


Some of you might remember how in 2008, before the LHC’s power supply was turned on, the end-of-the-world-ers were picking up steam themselves trying to shut the collider down, going as far as filing a lawsuit against CERN with the European Court of Human Rights that argued: “such a scenario would violate the right to life of European citizens and pose a threat to the rule of law.” They were worried that our planet would be consumed by a miniature black hole, inadvertently created by CERN’s researchers.

Given the fact that “producing a miniature black hole” is now on the official timetable — presumably right under “Trolling 101” and “Haha” — a lot of people are bound to be worried about the latest CERN experiment. But, Switzerland is still on the map, a testament of the skill with which the collider itself and those that operate it dabble with forces so powerful they could literally break space-
time
.

or

2) Something did happen in 2012.  We entered a new world as Dolores Cannon suggested,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ucn3Xswv4Q


The other thing I have noticed is that things change after we have slept on it!  I have encountered problems which just seemed that couldnt be resolved.  Yet go to bed and sleep and next day problem solved or changed.  Is that how we enter a parallel universe, while we are sleepingÉ
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Post by: micjer on March 10, 2017, 09:32:32 AM
Just thinking about my response.  That wouldnt explain the Mandela effect though because it seemed to have started prior to 2012.

Geesh
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Post by: Irene on March 10, 2017, 10:00:12 AM
I'm with you, micjer, on the CERN bandwagon. Why does it have to be so big? It's a particle accelerator.

Things have been weird and getting weirder since they started that thing up. And they'd never admit they did something cosmically stupid if they did something cosmically stupid.  ::)

CERN's first run was September 10, 2008.

I've traced the screwup in my timeline to November 5, 2008, the night of the election of President Numbnuts.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 10, 2017, 11:28:39 AM


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Just thinking about my response.  That wouldn't explain the Mandela effect though because it seemed to have started prior to 2012.

Geesh

yeah Mic  i think it's been happening before that but something is making us more aware...and if we are more aware what should we do with that?

do we want the control to jump time lines or dimensions at will?
or stop it from happening without conscent?
or did we give consent somewhere else?..lol

maybe we are really going to the new earth ?.. the 5th dimension?...where it is all different in application but we are awake and aware ?
is it the end of a journey or just a short stop in one?

my eyes are crossed with all the reading..enough for today

thanks for  thinking about it and answering
you too Irene..even though i think it's more than the presidential election stuff
with the last two i think they are only being used as catalysts for folk to look more closely at what we want on many levels
sigh

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 10, 2017, 11:37:24 AM

yeah Mic  i think it's been happening before that but something is making us more aware...and if we are more aware what should we do with that?

do we want the control to jump time lines or dimensions at will?
or stop it from happening without conscent?
or did we give consent somewhere else?..lol

maybe we are really going to the new earth ?.. the 5th dimension?...where it is all different in application but we are awake and aware ?
is it the end of a journey or just a short stop in one?

my eyes are crossed with all the reading..enough for today

thanks for  thinking about it and answering
you too Irene..even though i think it's more than the presidential election stuff
with the last two i think they are only being used as catalysts for folk to look more closely at what we want on many levels
sigh

Otter,

That was just the earliest I could pinpoint an obvious change in my timeline.

I think someone was playing around with things to achieve a desired result of some kind and they lost control of what they were doing.

"Back to the Future" was fiction, but it perfectly illustrated what might happen if we play with things we do not understand.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 10, 2017, 12:05:07 PM
Irene
i  understood that and agree - yeah someone is pushing some buttons
but i wanted to clarify that i wasn't talking politics here but i do think the last two "choices" (and i use that term very lightly) have been to shake us up..
look at how polarized we as citizens have become..
i am stepping back (at least i think i am) to look at how they have been used to make us confirm or change how we deal with others.
and i am asking the question
what's the point?
is it to align us with something? shake us into groups ?
or to play smoke and mirrors and keep our attention from something?

i have sooooooooooo many questions   ::)

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 10, 2017, 12:46:02 PM
Irene
i  understood that and agree - yeah someone is pushing some buttons
but i wanted to clarify that i wasn't talking politics here but i do think the last two "choices" (and i use that term very lightly) have been to shake us up..
look at how polarized we as citizens have become..
i am stepping back (at least i think i am) to look at how they have been used to make us confirm or change how we deal with others.
and i am asking the question
what's the point?
is it to align us with something? shake us into groups ?
or to play smoke and mirrors and keep our attention from something?

i have sooooooooooo many questions   ::)

No politics here either. As I said, that is the earliest I can nail down the change in my timeline. It happened to be the night of that notorious election.
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Post by: ArMaP on March 10, 2017, 02:41:42 PM
I'm with you, micjer, on the CERN bandwagon. Why does it have to be so big? It's a particle accelerator.
Because it's easier to accelerate particles close to the speed of light by using a large radius trajectory.
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Post by: Irene on March 10, 2017, 02:58:09 PM
Because it's easier to accelerate particles close to the speed of light by using a large radius trajectory.

I'm not talking about the track so much as the machine itself. Why does it absolutely dwarf people? WTH are they really trying to do there?

Why would they want to create a black hole knowing how dangerous those things are? Hubris is what that is. Hubris and stupidity.

"Nothing, not even light, escapes a black hole. Let's make one in Switzerland."  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on March 10, 2017, 04:01:29 PM
I'm not talking about the track so much as the machine itself. Why does it absolutely dwarf people? WTH are they really trying to do there?
I suppose it's all related to the energy involved, the precision needed to collide particles and the sensitivity of all the sensors used to detect the particles resulting from the collisions.

Quote
Why would they want to create a black hole knowing how dangerous those things are? Hubris is what that is. Hubris and stupidity.
They do not want to create a black hole.
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Post by: Irene on March 10, 2017, 05:39:39 PM
I suppose it's all related to the energy involved, the precision needed to collide particles and the sensitivity of all the sensors used to detect the particles resulting from the collisions.
They do not want to create a black hole.

They've said they can inadvertently create one. I'm not real comfortable with that.
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Post by: The Seeker on March 10, 2017, 06:09:02 PM
They've said they can inadvertently create one. I'm not real comfortable with that.
Here is some food for thought, mostly my thoughts and ponderings on this current realm of thought...

From statements made from some of us, it appears that Zorgon, myself, Sarge Rock, and Micjer are from the same shadow or timeline, since we are all remembering the same sequential events, i.e. J C Penny, not Penney, "Luke" instead of "no", Berenstein instead of stain, etc....as are quite a few people; now we have Delores Cannon and others promoting that one earth and timeline was destroyed, leading to some of us being injected seamlessly into this timeline;

there is also the possibility that 2 timelines are converging and becoming one; now whether they will stay as one or separate again remains to be seen; the question is, if two are merging to form one, did those of us from line a have another us in line b, and if so, what happened to them?

Perhaps our earth did succumb to cataclysm and we jumped to this one to finish our work; did our corresponding selves jump to the other and experience the cataclysm?

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 10, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
Here is some food for thought, mostly my thoughts and ponderings on this current realm of thought...

From statements made from some of us, it appears that Zorgon, myself, Sarge Rock, and Micjer are from the same shadow or timeline, since we are all remembering the same sequential events, i.e. J C Penny, not Penney, "Luke" instead of "no", Berenstein instead of stain, etc....as are quite a few people; now we have Delores Cannon and others promoting that one earth and timeline was destroyed, leading to some of us being injected seamlessly into this timeline;

there is also the possibility that 2 timelines are converging and becoming one; now whether they will stay as one or separate again remains to be seen; the question is, if two are merging to form one, did those of us from line a have another us in line b, and if so, what happened to them?

Perhaps our earth did succumb to cataclysm and we jumped to this one to finish our work; did our corresponding selves jump to the other and experience the cataclysm?

 8)

Seeker

What I remember -

Berenstein
"Beautiful day in the neighborhood."
"You are my son, Luke."
"Sex In the City"
Fruit Loops
Mandela croaking recently. The phony interpreter is a reminder.
JC Penney
"If you build it, they will come."
Jif

I also remember, in 2011, that a voice repeatedly told me I'd come home. If you'll recall, I traced my first memorable timeline issue to 2008.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: A51Watcher on March 10, 2017, 07:59:51 PM

"Nothing, not even light, escapes a black hole. Let's make one in Switzerland."  :o :o :o

Xrays escape black holes.

There are also 2 event horizons, not 1.

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on March 11, 2017, 06:49:11 AM
They've said they can inadvertently create one. I'm not real comfortable with that.
Did they really say that? Or did someone else say it?

After reading this CERN page (https://press.cern/backgrounders/safety-lhc) I can only see they said that it was highly unlikely that a microscopic black hole could be created by the LHC, but even if it was, the theories that say that it was possible also say that the microscopic black holes would disappear instantly.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Amaterasu on March 11, 2017, 07:18:28 AM
What I remember -

Berenstein
"Beautiful day in the neighborhood."
"You are my son, Luke."
"Sex In the City"
Fruit Loops
Mandela croaking recently. The phony interpreter is a reminder.
JC Penney
"If you build it, they will come."
Jif

I also remember, in 2011, that a voice repeatedly told me I'd come home. If you'll recall, I traced my first memorable timeline issue to 2008.

I remember "Luke, I am Your father."  And "Sex and the City."  All the rest, I remember as You do.

EDIT to add:  My first awareness was 2007, I think it was, when I discovered a thread on All Things Stupid that claimed New Zealand used to be north and slightly west of Australia - and that is what I remembered, too.  Now it's east and south...
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on March 11, 2017, 07:45:19 AM
I'm not buying into the whole Mandela Effect thing. Well almost not...lol

I remember:

No, I am your father (People have been using the 'Luke' thing as a misquote)

JC Penny

Berinstein Bears (now this one has me wondering)

Mandela was in jail, then released and served as President of South Africa...

Jiffy

Fruit Loops...

Sex in the City (never watched the stupid show, so I could be wrong)...

and here's the best one.....

Peggy....I remember Pegasus Research Consortium...... ;D

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Amaterasu on March 11, 2017, 10:28:21 AM
I'm not buying into the whole Mandela Effect thing. Well almost not...lol

Here's My thoughts...  WHY is it only recently that anyOne has these experiences?  No One was discussing things changing that I met back in 2000 or even 2005 - long after the web was available to compare notes.  And WHY are the "misremembered" things "misremembered" identically?

As I pointed out earlier, in the ATS thread discussing the location of New Zealand back in 2007, 1/3ish of the People remembered it being north of Australia and slightly west of the center of that continent.  If this was a case of being bad in geography, the Ones who "misremembered" would be placing it literally all over the globe.  Not two camps only - Those who said it was north and slightly west of the center of Australia and Those who said it was where it is now.

The fact that in each of these cases there are virtually always two camps is significant.  "Bad memory" would yield many more points of view, I would suggest.

So...  Something is happening here, and recently (relatively speaking) at that.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 11, 2017, 10:54:27 AM

Amy
that is a question that I have been asking myself and searching for more info on
but when I think back over my life I  always thought I might be slightly psychic cause I knew stuff.
and when someone would say..how did/do you know that I would say osmosis
But now I am wondering how did I know stuff..
.rolling thur time lines might explain it but I think it is only the tip of the iceberg...and also the 100 monkey thing for why now imo
so ooooooooooooooo
here’s one search I am currently reading thur the links..help yourself

 search terms -reality timeline switch
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=reality+timeline+switch&*

also
search terms - a glitch on Time Lines
https://www.google.com/#q=+a+glitch+on+Time+Lines+

the one above shows that it began to be research  before now




and a whole bunch of other stuff that i am looking at
heart rhythms and their affect on the geomagnetic and vise versa
plus a thing on bionumerology





Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 11, 2017, 11:47:21 AM
Xrays escape black holes.

There are also 2 event horizons, not 1.

I'm no expert, so thank you.

What is it about X-rays that makes them immune to the forces of a black hole?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on March 11, 2017, 12:16:34 PM
Here's My thoughts...  WHY is it only recently that anyOne has these experiences?  No One was discussing things changing that I met back in 2000 or even 2005 - long after the web was available to compare notes.
I think that's because people would not think so much of themselves, so they thought they were misremembering things and moved on to more important things. In recent years we have witnessing the rising of the "me", with people thinking that they are more important than anything else, and that everyone is interested in knowing what they had for lunch or what movie they are going to watch. :)

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The fact that in each of these cases there are virtually always two camps is significant.  "Bad memory" would yield many more points of view, I would suggest.
That's what I said on a previous post, these cases are always presented as one of two possibilities, so in the case of the location of New Zealand people are presented with only two possibilities, being north or east of Australia.

And that's one of the reasons I think this is more of psychological effect than anything else, as people are presented with the present situation and an alternative one, but the case is usually presented as "who remembers X being Y instead of Z?", making people either accepting the present Z or accepting the alternative Y, not giving them any chance of forming their own opinion.

If people were asked "has X always been Z or was it something else?" I'm sure we would get much more opinions.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 11, 2017, 02:06:19 PM
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I also remember, in 2011, that a voice repeatedly told me I'd come home. If you'll recall, I traced my first memorable timeline issue to 2008.

I need to add, regarding my above quoted statement, that the voice first told me I had been "lost", and then told me I was "home".

Don't ask for an explanation. I don't have one.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: A51Watcher on March 11, 2017, 05:27:19 PM
I'm no expert, so thank you.

What is it about X-rays that makes them immune to the forces of a black hole?

The X-rays come from hot gas orbiting around the black hole in an accretion disk. As the gas orbits, magnetic stresses cause it to lose energy and angular momentum, thus spiralling slowly in towards the black hole. The orbital energy is transformed into thermal energy, heating up the gas to millions of degrees, so it then emits blackbody radiation in the X-ray band.

Once the gas gets closer than a few times the horizon radius, it plunges into the black hole, so while some X-rays can still escape just before the horizon, most are emitted a fair bit outside.

X-rays are generated by BH-star binary systems from a thermalized accretion disk. This process produces soft (low energy) X-ray radiation. In some systems, the high energy emission is much harder than that of a thermal disk and dominated by synchrotron X-rays emitted from shocked gas in the jet.

I did understand some of that and Googled the rest. Fascinating stuff.

Now, why are there two event horizons?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: A51Watcher on March 11, 2017, 05:30:47 PM

re: black holes

Until recently observations and theories have only predicted 1 event horizon.

New evidence shows that there are instead 2 event horizons.

 
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 11, 2017, 06:47:10 PM
Perhaps we need The Matrix Traveller to come back and give his opinion on this topic.

I really tried to follow what he was trying to get across but I have to admit I was lost.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 11, 2017, 07:33:29 PM
A51Watcher wrote -

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The X-rays come from hot gas orbiting around the black hole in an accretion disk. As the gas orbits, magnetic stresses cause it to lose energy and angular momentum, thus spiralling slowly in towards the black hole. The orbital energy is transformed into thermal energy, heating up the gas to millions of degrees, so it then emits blackbody radiation in the X-ray band.

Once the gas gets closer than a few times the horizon radius, it plunges into the black hole, so while some X-rays can still escape just before the horizon, most are emitted a fair bit outside.

X-rays are generated by BH-star binary systems from a thermalized accretion disk. This process produces soft (low energy) X-ray radiation. In some systems, the high energy emission is much harder than that of a thermal disk and dominated by synchrotron X-rays emitted from shocked gas in the jet.

I did understand some of that and Googled the rest. Fascinating stuff.

Now, why are there two event horizons?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 11, 2017, 07:34:30 PM

emotions?...family / friends /  acquaintances seeing it differently at the time you noticed and  a discussion  as to why...

Well I talked with my wife after we returned fron visiting her in Texas when that shift happened. She is usually more skeptic than even Armap :P (one of the reasons we didn't get along :P )  I just asked her about the JC Penny thing as she had worked there in las Vegas  and she clearly recalls the spelling Penney  Didn't hesitate, just spit it out  BEFORE i told her what this was about... so since she lives in texas now that meory is different

However when I metioned the Berenstein Bears being berenSTAIN now she flipped out :D  She had read those books to our kids, he rmother had read them to her... She was 100% adamant that it was Berenstein... seems she says we still have the books in the attic So I will have to find them

Re the VHS videos  I don't have a VHS player anymore Will see if I can pick one up cheap at a yard sale

One of my friends from facbook, whom I met when we first started the medieval group is not the same person... so much so I don't recognize her to the point I may have to unfriend her

I think it is too soon to get real reactions from people other than "your crazy" or have faulty memories because people are just now realizing SOMETHING is going on.  That chart from Twitter shows it was almost not discussed at all before oct 2015 then suddenly literally went viral

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i'm looking for the trigger point, if there is one
perhaps we have control of this and perhaps we don't

As am I  and it would be awesome if there WAS a way to control it. Quantum Physics has said we SHOULD be able to  literally Mind over Matter. Sci Fi writers have touched on this as well like the Star Trek TNG episode where all thoughs came instantly into reality as they were travelling through a special section of space

I started this almost the first year I was on ATS  specifically around the Schumann resonance and 'shrinking" time (or speeding up as it were)  three times I started the research  three time things changed and files disappeared

So far THIS time around it seems to be holding

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i'm thinking of Z and his mirrors along the road affecting him as he has
 thoughts/beliefs of the gov with the looking glass stuff
does this need a physical trigger or do you need a belief system in stuff?
Well the giant solar mirror happened several months AFTER our return  The Texas trip was end of June  I saw the solar plant on the way to War in october... so I had already known I was in a different timelin, the mirrors just confirmed it in a solid slap to the face kinda way. Not a small spelling erro but a whole giant solar plant  glitch :P


As for that looking glas  that came along with al the stargate research. It seems that the PORTALS at least are very real... even NASA now confirms it.  So if the portals are real  what does that mean?

Well according to the Air Force... they say THIS

"Naturally occurring anomalous teleportation phenomena that were previously studied by the United States and foreign governments were also documented in the study and are reviewed in the report."

and in the other paper:

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Two Kinds of vm-Teleportation Identified for the Air Force Study

• Traversable Wormhole engineered as a “STARGATE”
(via Einstein’s General Relativity Theory field equations, 1915)

• Faster-Than-Light (FTL) solutions of the Polarizable-Vacuum Representation of General Relativity (Davis,Puthoff, Maccone, 2003; , Puthoff, 1999, 2000) induce a flat-spacetime version of the Stargate via engineering the vacuum EM parameters

Part 1: What are Traversable Wormholes?

• Hyperspace tunnels thru spacetime, which can:

connect together remote regions within our universe
connect together different universes
connect together different space dimensions (for higher dimensional wormholes)
connect together different chronological periods within the same space region (backwards time travel!)
Part 2 - What are Traversable Wormholes?
• Traversable Wormholes possess:

normal or backwards time flow
normal or nonexistent gravitational stresses on space travelers
entry/exit openings (or throats) that can be made to be spherically shaped, cubic shaped,polyhedral shaped, generic shaped, etc.
flat entry/exit openings are possible – a true STARGATE or flat doorway through spacetime &dimensions!

Now looking at THAT  that pretty much covers everything from Aliens to Bigfoot and Nessy to Timeline shifts to Portals

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i was very open to anything when younger..no restrictions and no tv/movie influences  so my trips seem to be all over the place with content..
i have memories of being places i know i have never been in the physical but knowledge of them..details i couldn't have gotten from reading...

Channeling perhaps? You are an empath are you not?  As such you should be able to pick up 'other' information, similar to the way Mystics access the Akashic Record  and Tibetan monks channel information ( not like modern charlattans scamming for a buck)

Writers and artists draw on this 'other' knowledge base... the sci fi of today is the reality of tomorrow

Rocket scientist  THREE countries that had no direst ties with each other at the time Three scientists independently came up with the EXACT same liquid fuel rocket concept. Those three countries became the three top space powers today



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come on guys..think about it and speak up..we may be on the way to multiple lives we can access at will and move thur


That would be cool but also confusing as hell.  For example  I did some research in timeline #1  I posted that and went back to work on it.  But now I am in timeline #2 and the facts i checked in timeline #1 are NOT the same in timeline #2   So I make comments based on my work and collected facts, only to be told  "Hey you need to fact check  that is a lot of BS"  WTF?  So I fact check and lLO AND BEHOLD... what I knew 100% befor e is no longer true LONGER TRUE

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 11, 2017, 07:38:56 PM
2) Something did happen in 2012.  We entered a new world as Dolores Cannon suggested,

I will have to see what she has to say  because it was 2012 that keeps showing up for me


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The other thing I have noticed is that things change after we have slept on it!  I have encountered problems which just seemed that couldnt be resolved.  Yet go to bed and sleep and next day problem solved or changed.  Is that how we enter a parallel universe, while we are sleeping

THAt is a very good point.  It has long been a saying "Let's sleep on it" before making any big decision.  Also when you misplace something 'sleeping on it" will usually have it show up the next day

So is it simply that we assign the task to our subconscious and then we remeber it the next day?  Or is it like Cynthia says with her Nutmeg that after the FIFTH try, the nutmeg just appeared?

perhaps that IS how we can switch :D
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 11, 2017, 07:52:57 PM
That Puthoff really gets around. He has his fingers stuck in an awful lot of pies.

I wonder exactly what he is. I thought he was connected with RV, which I suppose could be linked to just about anything the government might be up to.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 11, 2017, 07:53:09 PM

yeah Mic  i think it's been happening before that but something is making us more aware...and if we are more aware what should we do with that?

Well my original work focused back to the Philadelphia Experiment as the date when the srewups started  There was even a movie made on that aspect where they were trying to fix it. In that movie the time ripples came in waves. I forget the name and version year but will try to find it

Awareness is alway the first step. Bare in mind that with FB and Twitter these days an idea spreads like wild fire wheras back in the day few people had access to any real information outside their local sphere

And though our awareness has increased so has the scoffing and skepticism noise that is trying to drown out any real effort to understand it

What to do with the knowledge is always the next question

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do we want the control to jump time lines or dimensions at will?
or stop it from happening without conscent?
or did we give consent somewhere else?..lol

THIS is THE MAIN REASON the old Mystic Schools and "illuminati" groups remained secret.

Let's say you could learn how easily... but if you did that you may misuse that ability before you have learned the proper training and discipline...  Its like a gun... guns don't kill people and most sane people have learned how to control the urge to shoot everything, so only the idiots do

But hand that idiot a way to go back in time and mess up the world?  Not such a good idea :D

Sliders was a show about slipping through timelines at will, except that their control device broke so there was no way to get back home to their original one.  When they finally thought they had... the last scene shows a BLUE golden gate bridge :P

It may be fun to consider, but the reality would be frightening... because the next timeline you slip into, your wife might be a serial killer :P

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maybe we are really going to the new earth ?.. the 5th dimension?...where it is all different in application but we are awake and aware ?
is it the end of a journey or just a short stop in one?

That is what all the New Agers are saying  :D  And I am sure the Chritians are say Oh yeah no worries, just part of the coming Rapture

my eyes are crossed with all the reading..enough for today

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even though i think it's more than the presidential election stuff

The only thing I would toss in regarding politics is this

IF it is true that Hillary had the popular vote (though photos show her venues almost empty)  then how did Trump win?  For the sake of this discussion, lets say that enough strong willed minds MANIFESTED it

Now wouldn't THAt be a kicker?

 :o

 ::)

 8)

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 11, 2017, 08:02:08 PM
That Puthoff really gets around. He has his fingers stuck in an awful lot of pies.

I wonder exactly what he is. I thought he was connected with RV, which I suppose could be linked to just about anything the government might be up to.

Hal Puthoff...to me... is like the Smoking man was to Fox Mulder... :P I even posted that several times on ATS

EVERYTHING I researched, from RV to Stargates to free energy to zero point energy to mind control.... HAL PUTHOFF was there. Scientology? Hal was there as a high priest (or whatever they call them)  Skin Walker ranch?  Hal Puthoff was a member of the Aviary, the elite UFO research group  he was the OWL  He was also part of NIDS, Robert Bigelow's research team into the paranormal and was very active at the Skin Walker ranch portal.

In fact hal currently works for Robert as you can see on Hal's website (it has Roberts space station on the cover image 4)
http://earthtech.org/

Remote viewing, MK Ultra, MJ12, Aviary   all there :P

When Ed mitchell went to the moon, they did a telepathic message test. In fact it was Ed Mitchell who discovered Uri Geller and brought him in to Stanford Research institute

But he is in the other threads :D  though I only covered a small part of what he is involved in  He DID visit pegasus yahoo group some years back and I believe Pimander has had contact with him

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 11, 2017, 09:05:30 PM
Cool  8) no gear on the spindle  :P
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10004/thumb_Sun_dial.jpg)

Nice!  So the earthbound one has no gear :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: A51Watcher on March 11, 2017, 09:32:04 PM
A51Watcher wrote -

I did understand some of that and Googled the rest. Fascinating stuff.

Now, why are there two event horizons?

No one has put forth a theory yet as to why there are 2.

The answer will require some adjustments to Einstein's theories and calculations because he only predicted 1.



Current (needing adjustment) theories on black holes:


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hTf40BUN3_k/Us3YvT4VsNI/AAAAAAAADlE/Gl5czXqXLV0/s1600/I05-11-Schwarzschild1.jpg)


(http://www.nature.com/polopoly_fs/7.9804.1364925535!/image/event-horizon.jpg_gen/derivatives/fullsize/event-horizon.jpg)
 

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 12, 2017, 04:54:58 AM
This makes me ponder Ben Rich's statement about there being an error in the equations...

if semi-conductors break the laws of physics, who is to say that many things don't?

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on March 12, 2017, 05:42:18 AM
So is it simply that we assign the task to our subconscious and then we remeber it the next day?
I suppose it is.

My grandmother, when she lost any thing she said "the devil have it in his eyes until it reappears", saying that the devil didn't like to have anything in his eyes and things would reappear. It usually worked. :)

I suppose that's also why people used to tie pieces of string to a finger or a handkerchief to a chair leg to remember things they couldn't remember. Basically, it creates a connection between the reality we see with our desire to remember something, so our subconscious becomes alert to that connection and, when it sees the reality "anchor" it reconnects to the original memory search and, memories working mostly by being connected to other memories, it finds what we were trying to remember.

At least that's how I see it. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on March 12, 2017, 05:48:35 AM
if semi-conductors break the laws of physics, who is to say that many things don't?
They do? ???
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 12, 2017, 08:47:37 AM
Here's the thing with Dolores.   I watched her videos before 2012 and when it came and went with nothing seeming to have happened I just pushed her info to the side thinking that it was a lot smoke.

Fast forward to now, some of the stuff she talked about seems to fit!
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Amaterasu on March 12, 2017, 08:58:44 AM
I am of the opinion that Einstein's work was put out there as "truth" to hide the energy in the aether.  It is flawed, so no doubt there needs to be "adjustments."  I like Paul A. Laviolette's subquantum kinetics, but I do not know if it would predict two event horizons, or no "black holes..."  I haven't seen these addressed.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Eighthman on March 12, 2017, 10:00:57 AM
I tend to think that the Aspden Effect suggests that free energy hides within rotational inertia and that it might be made practical as a source.  I think the work of Linevich and Kanarev suggest the same thing.

As to the bizarre appearance of the world today, I am puzzled as to the causes. Some of it involves the lack of attention span within the West.  The public demands fast and easy solutions to their problems. Normally, a wise elite might distract them and set up long term fixes but since the elite can't be trusted, that isn't happening.

This might also be why Putin is so viscerally hated by western elites.  As a benevolent authoritarian, he can pursue long term solutions - and that creates a hateful envy.  Much the same goes for China with its Confucian tradition of civil service.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 12, 2017, 10:18:47 AM
Here's the thing with Dolores.   I watched her videos before 2012 and when it came and went with nothing seeming to have happened I just pushed her info to the side thinking that it was a lot smoke.

Fast forward to now, some of the stuff she talked about seems to fit!

I think she talked about some sort of splitting off of the earth if I remember right Mic.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 12, 2017, 11:50:12 AM
Yes she did.

Strange how since we have got onto this topic, there seems to be a lot of things that seem different. Too many to mention. But the problem is what is natural changes and what could be considered part of the Mandela effect is what is making my head spin.


People looked at us funny when we tried to talk to them about things like nine eleven. Watch their reaction when you start talking about parallel universes and time lines!! ::)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: A51Watcher on March 12, 2017, 12:57:18 PM
...Some black holes spin around an axis, and their situation is more complicated. The surrounding space is then dragged around, creating a cosmic whirlpool.

The singularity is an infinitely thin ring instead of a point.

The event horizon is composed of two, instead of one, imaginary spheres.

And there is a region called the ergosphere, bounded by the static limit, where you are forced to rotate in the same sense as the black hole although you can still escape....


(http://hubblesite.org/explore_astronomy/black_holes/graphics/mod3_q3_3.jpg)

In a spinning black hole, a central ring singularity is surrounded by two event horizons, the ergosphere and the static limit.


(http://hubblesite.org/explore_astronomy/black_holes/graphics/mod3_q3_2.jpg)

German physicist Karl Schwarzschild (1873-1916) first discovered the solutions of the equations of general relativity that describe non-rotating black holes.

http://hubblesite.org/explore_astronomy/black_holes/encyc_mod3_q3.html (http://hubblesite.org/explore_astronomy/black_holes/encyc_mod3_q3.html)


Cross Section of a charged black hole

(http://www.gothosenterprises.com/black_holes/images/charged.gif)


Photon sphere

You know, this photon sphere is pretty much like the photon sphere of a static black hole. Briefly, the photon sphere has a radius of 3/2 Rs. It is where light rays can hold unstable orbits around the black hole.

It is also the last possible orbital radius, since orbiting at any smaller radius would involve going faster than light. Hypothetically speaking, if you leveled your eye there, you would see the back of your head. Ah, the photon sphere summed up in four sentences!


Event horizons

Whoa ... horizons plural??

And just how does this happen when Schwarzschild's geometry predicted only one horizon?

Simple: when considering a black hole with charge, Schwarzschild's solution is no longer valid. We need something else!

We need...the Reissner-Nordstrøm solution! The two scientists with that namesake solution discovered that, if a small charge is added to a black hole, the event horizon shrinks and a second, inner horizon forms just above the singularity!

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Gunnar_Nordstr%C3%B6m.jpg)
(Gunnar Nordström (1881 – 1923) was a Finnish theoretical physicist best remembered for his theory of gravitation, which was an early competitor of general relativity. Nordström is often designated by modern writers as The Einstein of Finland due to his novel work in similar fields with similar methods to Einstein

(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/reissner-hans-jacob-engineer-mathematician-physicist-photographer-picture-id543831213)
Reissner, Hans Jacob - Engineer, Mathematician, Physicist, Germany


I've heard the inner horizon called the Cauchy horizon, and I've also heard that electrons tend to "hover" around this horizon; but I can't actually recall where I heard these things! What does this mean? Well, the event horizon is where, according to a distant observer, time seems to stop. A charged black hole just has two radii where time seems to stop.

The more charge the black hole acquires, the smaller the outer event horizon and the larger the inner event horizon gets.

If the black hole acquires a charge whose magnitude is as great as its mass (an insanely large number in the order of magnitude of 1030 coulombs), the outer and inner event horizons merge.

Should the black hole acquire a charge with a magnitude greater than its own mass, both horizons vanish and leave a naked (eek!) singularity.

This is great. This is neat. We can get rid of both event horizons! That means we can weave and bob around the charged black hole's singularity all we please without worry about needing to go faster than the speed of light.

Practicality intrudes with a catch

There's always a catch, though (you knew this was coming). The two event horizons only disappear when the magnitude of the charge of the black hole is greater than its mass.

Black holes come in 3 solar masses or more. One solar mass is roughly 1.989 x 1030 kilograms. That's huge!! You would be truly hard-pressed to amass a charge of that magnitude.

Let's just say, for hypothetical purposes, that you managed to charge up a black hole enough to disperse the two horizons. Great.

Now you have to carefully monitor everything that goes into and comes out of it and must keep a great store of charge on hand.

Something with that much charge would tend to rip apart the atoms around it, pulling the oppositely charged parts into itself.

It's almost as if the black hole is actively trying to neutralize its charge like a person would try to warm up by drinking a cup of hot liquid (mmm, hot tea!). People give electrons personalities and desires, so I see nothing wrong with doing the same for charged black holes.

http://www.gothosenterprises.com/black_holes/charged_black_hole.html (http://www.gothosenterprises.com/black_holes/charged_black_hole.html)


Good overview of Wormholes and Black Holes and even White Holes(!)  for those of you curious about such things -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8CxK0SJu4


There is now speculation that a Black Hole (or even a White Hole) may have triggered the event currently called The Big Bang.


Goodbye Big Bang, hello Black Hole Bang
 
(https://wordlesstech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Goodbye-Big-Bang-hello-Black-Hole-Bang-1-640x480.jpg)

A new theory claims that the Black Hole might have started Universe. As cosmologists have speculated, the Big Bang theory may be a myth and that the Universe was created by a Black Hole, from a collapsing star...

https://wordlesstech.com/goodbye-big-bang-hello-black-hole-bang/ (https://wordlesstech.com/goodbye-big-bang-hello-black-hole-bang/)

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: A51Watcher on March 12, 2017, 02:01:47 PM
...And so what is new in all of this?

Thanks to new space telescopes we now have concrete evidence that the two event horizon theory is the correct one.

From what I understand this information is due to be released this year.


Here is a graphic that very closely resembles the actual evidence found -


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/Gravity/Img_6758_zps2f3qiacl.png)

The regions marked 'repulsion' refer to repulsive gravity theorized to exist in Black Holes.


 
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 12, 2017, 02:07:51 PM
Hey A51,

After reading your last couple of posts I'm beginning to believe Carroll's Alice's Adventures In Wonderland was a discreet data dump by parties unknown.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: A51Watcher on March 12, 2017, 08:28:04 PM

Irene -

Ah yes... curiouser and curiouser. Those who follow Cosmology have become used to this aspect.

All probes we have sent out and also space based telescopes have smashed our preconceptions regularly.

Black and white holes remind me of the witches in OZ. Black holes suck matter out of our universe and white ones spew matter in.


(http://68.media.tumblr.com/8b9d437e558988c5f972f1dfee3c44ac/tumblr_o2v29ovoLw1umx2kso1_500.gif)


Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 13, 2017, 12:21:45 AM
Here's My thoughts...  WHY is it only recently that anyOne has these experiences?  No One was discussing things changing that I met back in 2000 or even 2005 - long after the web was available to compare notes.

Well there WERE discussions on it before...

I myself started rthis research back on ATS and there were a lot of threads with people remebering things like dead famous people that were suddenly alive.  Then it all vanished LITERALLY  All my files, the threads at ATS  everything  I thought originally it was typical ATS deleteing threads but it wasn't only on ATS

In fact it was late 2006 when i joined ATS and Ted's article on the Mars Rover was updated 2007  Rover Sundial Survey Concluded By Ted Twietmeyer 12-31-2007

Then came the shift where he didn't know what I was talking about and all the info, the university studies, etc were simply GONE. 

But yes it was only noticed by a few, not the masses


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And WHY are the "misremembered" things "misremembered" identically?

THAT is the million dollar question  IF it was 'false memories' then why are they all the same false memories?  And the reactions are from people who haven't given it much if any though until they were suddenly hit with it, at which point they usually get flustered or angry when told they are imagining it


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So...  Something is happening here, and recently (relatively speaking) at that.

Agreed  That is why I am digging into this as best as I can
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 13, 2017, 12:41:57 AM
Hey A51,

After reading your last couple of posts I'm beginning to believe Carroll's Alice's Adventures In Wonderland was a discreet data dump by parties unknown.

Well the ALICE CODE is well known to be the secret government code :P I have a LOT of material collected on that

Pine gap is just outside ALICE Springs in Australia   8)

Alice in Wonderland: The Power of Applied Confusion
The aim of the Alice in Wonderland or confusion technique is to confound the expectations and conditioned reactions of the interrogatee. He is accustomed to a world that makes sense, at least to him: a world of continuity and logic, a predictable world. He clings to this world to reinforce his identity and powers of resistance. The confusion technique is designed not only to obliterate the familiar, but to replace it with the weird…as the process continues, day after day as necessary, the subject begins to try to make sense of the situation, which becomes mentally intolerable… he is likely to make significant admissions, or even to pour out his story
 

SOURCE: DIA College PDF

WHY do you think we use the term "Going down the rabbit Hole" when we talk conspiracy?

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/03files/Alice_Intel.html

Over the doorway to the Looking Glass project at Area 51 there is a figurine of the White rabbit with the watch. Both bob lazar and Dan Burisch mention that one

The LOOKING GLASS project itself  in the actula paper from Los Alamos has Alice THIS is the cover sheet

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/04images/Machine/Looking_Glass.png)

On our page on PHASE CONJUGATION there are several military documents regarding time reversal 

Like THIS one that was moved before I saved a copy

Table I: Partial list of waveforms tested in SignalEx.
Time-reversal Naval Postgraduate School (Smith)
Contract Number: N0001400D01150014
ompor014.pdf
http://sunspot.spawar.navy.mil/seaweb/signalex.htm - (Dead Link, Not archived)

AH!  Found a copy on DTIC :D   

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/03files/Project_Looking_Glass_LANL.html#Project
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 13, 2017, 12:43:55 AM
And CERN Alice Portal

ALICE Time Projection Chamber
Welcome to the ALICE TPC Page
TPC Overview


The Time Projection Chamber (TPC) is the main tracking detector in the central barrel of theALICE experiment at LHC. Its function is to provide track finding (efficiency larger than 90%), charged particle momentum measurement (resolution better than 2.5% for electrons with momentum of about 4 GeV/c), particle identification (dE/dx resolution better than 10%), and two-track separation (resolution in relative momentum below 5 MeV/c) in the region pt<10 GeV/c and pseudo-rapidity |h|<0.9.

The TPC is cylindrical in shape with an active gas volume that ranges from about 85 cm to 250 cm, in the radial direction, and has a length of 500 cm. along the beam direction. A high voltage (HV) electrode is located at its axial center, which will be aligned to the interaction point, dividing the gas volume in two symmetric drift regions of 250 cm length. The HV electrode, which consists of an aluminized stretched Mylar foil, and two opposite axial potential degraders create a highly uniform electrostatic field in the two drift regions. The potential of the drift region is defined by Mylar strips wound around 18 inner and outer support rods.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/03files/Alice_Portal.html
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 13, 2017, 12:50:00 AM
They do not want to create a black hole.

Are you sure about that?


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Did they really say that? Or did someone else say it?

Yes they really said that :P

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After reading this CERN page (https://press.cern/backgrounders/safety-lhc) I can only see they said that it was highly unlikely that a microscopic black hole could be created by the LHC, but even if it was, the theories that say that it was possible also say that the microscopic black holes would disappear instantly.

You need to expand your reading :P

This is a paper filed at Los Alamos  (highlights are mine)

Time Machine at the LHC

I.Ya. Aref'eva, I.V. Volovich
(Submitted on 15 Oct 2007 (v1), last revised 25 Oct 2007 (this version, v2))
Recently, black hole and brane productionat CERN's Large Hadron Collider (LHC) has been widely discussed. We suggest that there is a possibility to test causality at the LHC. We argue that if the scale of quantum gravity is of the order of few TeVs, proton-proton collisions at the LHC could lead to the formation of time machines (spacetime regions with closed timelike curves) which violate causality. One model for the time machine is a traversable wormhole. We argue that the traversable wormhole production cross section at the LHC is of the same order as the cross section for the black hole production. Traversable wormholes assume violation of the null energy condition (NEC) and an exotic matter similar to the dark energy is required. Decay of the wormholes/time machines and signatures of time machine events at the LHC are discussed.

PAPER:  https://arxiv.org/abs/0710.2696
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 13, 2017, 01:35:04 PM
Stephen Hawking Confirming Danny Wilten's Theory On Gate To Another Universe In Orion

Steve Hawking has changed his mind and now says black holes are portals to another Universe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE5Ed9plVeE

Needs more reseacrch but I tossed it in here for reference
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on March 13, 2017, 02:01:17 PM
Are you sure about that?
You're right, I'm not. I should have said that they never said they wanted to create a black hole. :)

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Yes they really said that :P
Source, please.

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You need to expand your reading :P

This is a paper filed at Los Alamos  (highlights are mine)
What does "filed at Los Alamos" mean? ???

If I understood it right, it describes a possible test for the creation of "time-machines", but as a test it could have a positive or a negative result. That CERN page I mentioned says that the creation of a mini black hole was "unlikely", which means that it was possible.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 13, 2017, 02:42:16 PM
What does "filed at Los Alamos" mean? ???

'filed' as in archived  the file I posted is from the Los Alamos National Laboratoy Archive  LOTS of papers there about wormholes warp drives and time machines :D
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on March 13, 2017, 02:57:12 PM
'filed' as in archived  the file I posted is from the Los Alamos National Laboratoy Archive
Then why is it archived on the Cornell University digital repository?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 13, 2017, 07:19:06 PM


wow this thread has gone in so many directions..
i must have jumped into another  time line here cause i'm feeling  that backing away and just looking a this will for awhile would work best for me right now..
to many directions
having said that i will probably be floored with ideas  by tomorrow..bwhahahahahahah
that's just how it works..
making some coco while waiting for this  forecasted blizzard.. see if we can push it away..i'll let ya know
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 13, 2017, 07:49:33 PM
Then why is it archived on the Cornell University digital repository?

The Los Alamos National Laboratory hosted the arXiv e-print archive. The arXiv is currently operated and funded by Cornell University.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 13, 2017, 08:11:06 PM
Stephen Hawking Confirming Danny Wilten's Theory On Gate To Another Universe In Orion

Steve Hawking has changed his mind and now says black holes are portals to another Universe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE5Ed9plVeE

Needs more reseacrch but I tossed it in here for reference

As far as Hawking goes Zorgon, I am really confused about the fact that he has had Motor Neurone Disease or lou Gering's disease? since he was at Cambridge in his 20's.  And his still alive.

I'm scratching my head about that one because people with that don't usually live that long, just sayin.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on March 14, 2017, 07:06:38 AM
The Los Alamos National Laboratory hosted the arXiv e-print archive. The arXiv is currently operated and funded by Cornell University.
That explains it, but in that case it looks like you were still in the old timeline. ;)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 14, 2017, 07:59:59 AM

well Stella haspast us and the roads are clear with a slight dusting of snow  on the grass..hummmmmmmm

ok had this thought
does anyone remember the Seth material from , i think, the late 60's?
i read it but didn't like it and only remember a tiny bit but  that bit was we are part of an oversoul and we are living  8 (?) lives simultaneously and what affects one affects all in some way
to me that sounds really close to parallel time lines

but i don't know if that is what it actually said....anyone




return to add this but would still like to hear any other opinions

ok  doesn't seem to fit this scenario  from what i can find without the actual book

search terms
seth material 8 lives with oversoul

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=oversoul
36.4 Questioner: Do I understand from this then that the higher self or Oversoul may break down into numerous units if the experience is required to what we would call simultaneously experience different types of catalyst and then oversee these experiences?
Ra: I am Ra. This is a statement we cannot say to be correct or incorrect due to the confusions of what you call time. True simultaneity is available only when all things are seen to be occurring at once. This overshadows the concept of which you speak. The concept of various parts of the being living experiences of varying natures simultaneously is not precisely accurate due to your understanding that this would indicate that this was occurring with true simultaneity. This is not the case.

The case is from universe to universe and parallel existences can then be programmed by the Higher Self, given the information available from the mind/body/spirit complex totality regarding the probability/possibility vortices at any crux.


Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 14, 2017, 09:56:01 AM
Why are there eight lives?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 14, 2017, 12:26:14 PM
Why are there eight lives?

good question... in Tibetan(and Rosicrucian) it is 9 lives (yes like cats :P)  which makes sense because esoteric numerology is based on 9

( lives per level but you may fudge up and have to repeat a year :P )

I am currently on my eight reincarnation on this rock. Sleeper told John Lear that this is his last one.

When i first met John he was very upset that I had anything regarding the Dalai lama and Ttibet on my website (that is also the reason I am blocked in China so I was told... I seem to recall that Deuem confirmed that )

But in later years after much discourse with Sleeper John is now on baord with Tibetan reincarnation :D

No I have not read the Seth material or the law of One  I am sure I have it somewhere in te archives though. Will check my lists  but it may be lost in those files not done yet
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 14, 2017, 12:31:11 PM
Ra: I am Ra. This is a statement we cannot say to be correct or incorrect due to the confusions of what you call time.

I am pretty certain that the ONLY reason we get any sense that something is wrong with the timeline issues is because part of us exists outside of time. If that was not the case, we would be unaware that anything was wrong

But we can feel that the days are shorte yet our clocks tell us they haven't changed. General concensus at this point from those researching it is that a day is roughly 16 hours currently
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 14, 2017, 01:00:59 PM
That explains it, but in that case it looks like you were still in the old timeline. ;)

No not really :P  I just don't bother mentioning it because it is the Los Alamos papers archive :P  There is no need to mention each time that it is now hosted at Cornell

besides all the National Labs are associated to one or another Universities
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 14, 2017, 01:37:51 PM
good question... in Tibetan(and Rosicrucian) it is 9 lives (yes like cats :P)  which makes sense because esoteric numerology is based on 9

( lives per level but you may fudge up and have to repeat a year :P )

I am currently on my eight reincarnation on this rock. Sleeper told John Lear that this is his last one.

When i first met John he was very upset that I had anything regarding the Dalai lama and Ttibet on my website (that is also the reason I am blocked in China so I was told... I seem to recall that Deuem confirmed that )

But in later years after much discourse with Sleeper John is now on baord with Tibetan reincarnation :D

No I have not read the Seth material or the law of One  I am sure I have it somewhere in te archives though. Will check my lists  but it may be lost in those files not done yet

I have a horrible feeling that ET is nowhere near done torturing me.  :o
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 14, 2017, 01:47:42 PM
I am pretty certain that the ONLY reason we get any sense that something is wrong with the timeline issues is because part of us exists outside of time. If that was not the case, we would be unaware that anything was wrong

But we can feel that the days are shorte yet our clocks tell us they haven't changed. General concensus at this point from those researching it is that a day is roughly 16 hours currently
Many of the esoteric teachings point to the us experiencing the journey in the meatsuit is only an isolated piece of the total us;as you say, the oversoul is why we are aware that things are not on an even keel...

and I was told 25 years ago that this is my last time here on this level; with the memories I have from my death experience of other lives in other whens, it makes sense to me...
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 14, 2017, 03:21:03 PM
Pegasus & My Shapeshifting Teacup

This is the teacup I mentioned earlier in this thread; the one that had the magical disappearing defect.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10026/tmp_22771-20170314_171422-107184469.jpg)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 14, 2017, 06:56:04 PM
Pegasus & My Shapeshifting Teacup

This is the teacup I mentioned earlier in this thread; the one that had the magical disappearing defect.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10026/tmp_22771-20170314_171422-107184469.jpg)

It arrives perfect, then has a defect, then returns to perfect.

I would have to say that would also spin me out, but, now I'm on this new med I would probably think oh..........f...k it, and then speak out loud and say "I don't care, give it your best shot.  Those little chemicals again.  lol.  big hugs Irene. xo
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 14, 2017, 07:14:13 PM
I cannot describe how I felt when I got up to make my tea and the cup had the defect, which was a dent in the gold rim. I ran my finger over it. It wasn't something stuck on, like a sugar crystal or something. It was a dent.

Being careless and tapping my teaspoon on the rim would definitely dent it, but I've been extremely careful with it. It cost me a small fortune, so I treat it very delicately.

Roughly a week later, I got up to make tea and it was perfect again. My jaw, literally, dropped open and I repeatedly blinked my eyes. I picked it up, ran my finger over the rim where the dent had been and there was nothing.

I still cannot deal with it. Something so obviously happened to it and no matter what I do or think I cannot explain it.

WTF is going on while we are asleep?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: A51Watcher on March 14, 2017, 07:48:52 PM

But we can feel that the days are shorte yet our clocks tell us they haven't changed. General concensus at this point from those researching it is that a day is roughly 16 hours currently

Consideration might be given to the fact the the rate of expansion of the universe is actually increasing.

Since time, space and gravity are entwined much like the ohm's law equation, you can't change one part of the equation without effecting the others.

While the hands of the clock could be wildly spinning, the amount of time measured would remain the same.

Much like the movie 'The Time machine'.

While our perception of time would be altered, the units of time measured would remain the same.

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 14, 2017, 08:34:17 PM


Irene
i'm not saying this to freak you out but have you given any thought that maybe you have this cup in two different time lines and in one the cup has a defect?
was anything else different on the day of the defect any thing
or was it a defect for a week..how about then?

maybe we are rolling around thur several and only notice things like the cup defect cause most of it is the same

just a thought.. i'm still looking at every little thing i can to try and figure this out..mostly for my own self because i have no answers for things in my life lately



Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 14, 2017, 09:34:43 PM
While our perception of time would be altered, the units of time measured would remain the same.

I have pondered this in relation to the long lives of the pre flood people like Noah living 900 years. IF the time was different back then it might account for longer lifespans  and it might be the reason they were able to build such huge megaliths in a number of years that we consider inpossible.  If time were different it may have given them more working time in a measured day

Just a thought i was kicking around... no basis in fact at this point

But yeah Universe expanding faster might indeed effect things like local space and time
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 14, 2017, 09:42:00 PM
I still cannot deal with it. Something so obviously happened to it and no matter what I do or think I cannot explain it.

WTF is going on while we are asleep?

Stories like THIS one are what i am looking for and why i don't pay attention to scoffers and nay sayers that have never had an experience.

Like my 'jump' on the way home from Texas there is no mistaking it for me and my daughter. Convincing others that have never had an experience of any kind is impossible, because they won't allow their view of reality be altered. Scares them as much as it scares us that have had it happen

Things like the cup defect are much better example than changed logos or different spellings (though Micjer's photo of JC Penny sure is an awesome one :P )

There are more and more people coming forward as they see others telling their story. To be sure many will jump on the band wagon to piggyback on the attention, but I have laearned over the years to spot the difference between a real experiencer and a bullpoopter...
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 14, 2017, 09:48:41 PM
i'm not saying this to freak you out but have you given any thought that maybe you have this cup in two different time lines and in one the cup has a defect?

This is a distinct possibility and is what Quantum scientists arfe saying when they say the strings are entertwining.  Like that physicist with the nutmeg  It was only on her 5th attempt that the nutmeg was back where it was supposed to be

So did the nutmeg rematerialize in her timeline? or did she switch over to the timeline that had the nutmeg?  Since these differences are minoe 'glitches' the actual 'jump' would be small, minute on a cosmic scale

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was anything else different on the day of the defect any thing
or was it a defect for a week..how about then?

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just a thought.. i'm still looking at every little thing i can to try and figure this out..mostly for my own self because i have no answers for things in my life lately

Well except for the political thing, you seem pretty close to the original sky otter :P But I do have to say you scared the hell out of me when I got back and found we were on oppsing team on that




Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 15, 2017, 03:50:59 AM
Stories like THIS one are what i am looking for and why i don't pay attention to scoffers and nay sayers that have never had an experience.

Like my 'jump' on the way home from Texas there is no mistaking it for me and my daughter. Convincing others that have never had an experience of any kind is impossible, because they won't allow their view of reality be altered. Scares them as much as it scares us that have had it happen

Things like the cup defect are much better example than changed logos or different spellings (though Micjer's photo of JC Penny sure is an awesome one :P )

There are more and more people coming forward as they see others telling their story. To be sure many will jump on the band wagon to piggyback on the attention, but I have laearned over the years to spot the difference between a real experiencer and a bullpoopter...

Did you post about the jump you had; I would like to read it if you don't mind; fascinating.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 15, 2017, 07:51:02 AM


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Well except for the political thing, you seem pretty close to the original sky otter :P But I do have to say you scared the hell out of me when I got back and found we were on oppsing team on that


i really don't want to go there but you keep pushing at it with a number of posts
i can't figure that one out..  why are you doing this.. do you think fighting gets you more posters or is it something else
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Amaterasu on March 15, 2017, 09:43:57 AM
As far as Hawking goes Zorgon, I am really confused about the fact that he has had Motor Neurone Disease or lou Gering's disease? since he was at Cambridge in his 20's.  And his still alive.

I'm scratching my head about that one because people with that don't usually live that long, just sayin.

20 to 1 the "Hawking" We are shown is NOT the original.  The new one is a puppet, and They can have "Hawking" say whatever They want Him to.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 15, 2017, 09:49:00 AM

Irene
i'm not saying this to freak you out but have you given any thought that maybe you have this cup in two different time lines and in one the cup has a defect?
was anything else different on the day of the defect any thing
or was it a defect for a week..how about then?

maybe we are rolling around thur several and only notice things like the cup defect cause most of it is the same

just a thought.. i'm still looking at every little thing i can to try and figure this out..mostly for my own self because i have no answers for things in my life lately

Hi Otter,

I have no idea if I'm switching back and forth between realities, or if the teacup is. As far as I recall, nothing unusual happened during that period of time, although I admit my dreams and nightmares are becoming stranger and stranger.

The day the cup was "repaired" I remember thinking that someone or something did it to make me happy. I can't account for why I felt that way. It just popped into my head.

If that's the case, I'd sure like to know who fixed it.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 15, 2017, 12:30:09 PM
I have no idea if I'm switching back and forth between realities, or if the teacup is. As far as I recall, nothing unusual happened during that period of time, although I admit my dreams and nightmares are becoming stranger and stranger.

Interesting side note here:

Can some dreams be visits to other timelines?  I too have experience more weird dreams lately. Some of them so vivid that they seem more like reality, like I am living the part.

Problem is though that if I don't write it down these 'memoriews' fade rapidly

Star Trek TNG did an episode where Picard lived out an entire lifetime only to wake up and discover it was only a short dream...  the story ended with Picard playing a flute... a skill he picked up in that dream

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"The Inner Light" is the 125th episode overall and the 25th episode of the fifth season of the American science fiction television series Star Trek: The Next Generation. The episode was written by freelance writer Morgan Gendel based on his original pitch. Gendel is credited as writer of the story and co-writer of the teleplay with Peter Allan Fields. It is the penultimate episode of the season and was first broadcast on June 1, 1992.

In the story, Captain Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart) is struck with an energy beam from an alien probe. While minutes pass for the rest of the crew, Picard experiences 40 years as Kamin, a humanoid scientist whose planet is threatened by the nova of its sun. Picard learns that the purpose of the probe was to keep alive the memory of Kamin's race long after the death of their civilization. The probe also contains Kamin's flute; Picard, having mastered it as Kamin, finds he retains the skill to play it. He keeps it as a memento for the remainder of the series.

The episode is widely considered by critics and fans as one of the best episodes of the entire Star Trek franchise. In 1993, "The Inner Light" won the Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation. The flute melody, featured prominently in the episode, was composed by Jay Chattaway and has since been re-arranged for a full orchestra. The episode is also a favorite among both fans and members of the show's cast and crew.

If we are slipping back and forth between timelines maybe our subconscious is remebering those slips in our dreams

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 15, 2017, 12:32:35 PM
Did you post about the jump you had; I would like to read it if you don't mind; fascinating.

yes I did  That is what started this thread :D 

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/02files/Time_Lines_01.html

As to Hawking... I am not familiar with the implications of that disease and how long people live so cannot really add to that comment
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 15, 2017, 02:02:40 PM
Zorgon wrote -

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"Star Trek: TNG" did an episode where Picard lived out an entire lifetime only to wake up and discover it was only a short dream...  the story ended with Picard playing a flute... a skill he picked up in that dream

I think this a very likely scenario. Dreams are extremely bizarre and, often, make no sense, unless they're a separate reality.

What are nightmares? Existential threats in a parallel reality that resulted in a higher intelligence creating a safer, waking reality for us.

Just a theory of mine. Next week I'll probably find the holes in it. :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on March 15, 2017, 05:51:45 PM
As to Hawking... I am not familiar with the implications of that disease and how long people live so cannot really add to that comment
I think he wasn't supposed to live much more than 30 or 40 years.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 15, 2017, 05:57:09 PM
I think he wasn't supposed to live much more than 30 or 40 years.
Magic Johnson was supposed to have died from aids, or should I say, should have, back in the early 90's, yet he is still alive and kicking; note that he isn't just HIV positive, he has AIDS  :o

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 15, 2017, 06:24:03 PM
I think he wasn't supposed to live much more than 30 or 40 years.

I'm not sure how to be display links, so I will just post a link on Hawking's disease.  If you want to display it for me ArMap I would appreciate it.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stephen-hawking-als/

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Why has Hawking lived so long with this malady when so many other people die so soon after diagnosis? We spoke with Leo McCluskey, an associate professor of neurology and medical director of the ALS Center at the University of Pennsylvania, to find out more about the disease and why it has spared Hawking and his amazing brain.

What has Stephen Hawking's case shown about the disease?
One thing that is highlighted by this man's course is that this is an incredibly variable disorder in many ways. On average people live two to three years after diagnosis. But that means that half the people live longer, and there are people who live for a long, long time.

Life expectancy turns on two things: the motor neurons running the diaphragm—the breathing muscles. So the common way people die is of respiratory failure. And the other thing is the deterioration of swallowing muscles, and that can lead to malnutrition and dehydration. If you don't have these two things, you could potentially live for a long time—even though you're getting worse. What's happened to him is just astounding. He's certainly an outlier.
edit to add: Here are 3 paragraphs from the link for you biggles  8)

seeker








Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on March 15, 2017, 06:32:05 PM
I'm not sure how to be display links, so I will just post a link on Hawking's disease.

Like this? :)

How Has Stephen Hawking Lived Past 70 with ALS? (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stephen-hawking-als/)

(hit the "Quote" button to see how it's done)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 15, 2017, 06:39:40 PM
I'm not sure how to be display links, so I will just post a link on Hawking's disease.  If you want to display it for me ArMap I would appreciate it.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stephen-hawking-als/
edit to add: Here are 3 paragraphs from the link for you biggles  8)

seeker

Thank you honey, much love.  I appreciate it. xo
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 15, 2017, 06:41:53 PM
Can someone post a picture of a skull off of Google pics. 

When did we all develop bones/cartilage behind our eyes. Sorry but the skull I remember were just round holes.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 15, 2017, 06:45:09 PM
Can someone post a picture of a skull off of Google pics. 

When did we all develop bones/cartilage behind our eyes. Sorry but the skull I remember were just round holes.

Apparently most of the inner body has changed from what I'm reading and hearing.  But I do have recent x-rays including the head which my chiropractor got done.  He is like us, very open minded, next time I go I will ask him about that and get him to have a look Mic..
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 15, 2017, 06:55:15 PM
Can someone post a picture of a skull off of Google pics. 

When did we all develop bones/cartilage behind our eyes. Sorry but the skull I remember were just round holes.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h79/scourge999/Skull%20molding%20and%20casting/HSMMfront.jpg)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on March 16, 2017, 02:35:06 PM
When did we all develop bones/cartilage behind our eyes. Sorry but the skull I remember were just round holes.
And do you remember human skulls being like other animals' skulls?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 17, 2017, 01:59:52 PM
Couple questions.

1) How many people are noticing the changes in the matrix?

2) Any chance these are markers for those aware to help them wake up?

3) Any chance there are volunteers here at this "time" to aid in the waking up process? 

4) Does the 100 th monkey theory play out here.

There are so many things that I look at and think are just wrong. If it were one or two it would be no big deal. Is the veil lifting even though those in "control" are trying everything to distract us.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 17, 2017, 02:07:54 PM
Couple questions.

1) How many people are noticing the changes in the matrix?

2) Any chance these are markers for those aware to help them wake up?

3) Any chance there are volunteers here at this "time" to aid in the waking up process? 

4) Does the 100 th monkey theory play out here.

There are so many things that I look at and think are just wrong. If it were one or two it would be no big deal. Is the veil lifting even though those in "control" are trying everything to distract us.
Mic, are you a member over at spookz? If so, search for a thread I did there probably around 2008-09 titled "On the increase of personal awakenings..." if they didn't delete it  ::)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 17, 2017, 02:12:09 PM
I will. Just a visitor. Got banned one time because I didn't "join".
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 17, 2017, 02:25:47 PM
Didn't Camelot/Avalon have something to do with awakening and volunteers to assist with same?

I can't remember. That was a while ago now.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 17, 2017, 02:34:38 PM
Not deleted Seeker. Read a couple pages. Great material there. Going back to read it all. Topic on spooks sure fits this topic in my opinion. 

I don't think that the changes in this timeline is the important thing. The important thing is for us to be conscious of the fact that the timeline changed because, accepting that, it changes everything. It is an awakening in itself. It is confirmation that we are not crazy in our search for the truth.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 17, 2017, 02:38:39 PM
Btw have to thank Z for his post on Berenstain Bears because that triggered it for me. I know it was Berenstein!

Little markers to trigger our thoughts.

Wake up calls! 8)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 17, 2017, 02:39:05 PM
Not deleted Seeker. Read a couple pages. Great material there. Going back to read it all. Topic on spooks sure fits this topic in my opinion. 

I don't think that the changes in this timeline is the important thing. The important thing is for us to be conscious of the fact that the timeline changed because, accepting that, it changes everything. It is an awakening in itself. It is confirmation that we are not crazy in our search for the truth.
Perhaps I need to sneak in and transfer it; did you notice the date on it?

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 17, 2017, 02:44:22 PM
Not deleted Seeker. Read a couple pages. Great material there. Going back to read it all. Topic on spooks sure fits this topic in my opinion. 

I don't think that the changes in this timeline is the important thing. The important thing is for us to be conscious of the fact that the timeline changed because, accepting that, it changes everything. It is an awakening in itself. It is confirmation that we are not crazy in our search for the truth.

What's the name of the thread?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 17, 2017, 02:44:33 PM
2008
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 17, 2017, 02:47:32 PM
Irene.

Above top secret. "On the increase of personal awakenings"
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 17, 2017, 02:53:40 PM
Irene.

Above top secret. "On the increase of personal awakenings"

Found it. Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 17, 2017, 03:02:11 PM
2008
Nine years ago, and now it has come back around  8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 17, 2017, 03:04:58 PM


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Perhaps I need to sneak in and transfer it; did you notice the date on it?

go get it Seeker.. your work should be here
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 17, 2017, 03:25:25 PM
Couple questions.

1) How many people are noticing the changes in the matrix?

A LOT of people but i don't have nor have looked for numbers. Judging by the discussions on Social networks it seems most are now aware something is going on  and even the skeptics are talking about it, even if only to debunk

It is hard to debunk experiencers :P

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2) Any chance these are markers for those aware to help them wake up?

THAt is an interesting possibility  and may account why the effect is escalating as well

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3) Any chance there are volunteers here at this "time" to aid in the waking up process? 

new Agers are claiming that "Light masters" are here to help us move to the next dimension  Does that count?

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4) Does the 100 th monkey theory play out here.

not sure

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There are so many things that I look at and think are just wrong. If it were one or two it would be no big deal. Is the veil lifting even though those in "control" are trying everything to distract us.

The fact that there are so MANY cases remebered the SAME by so many;  the fact that several of us are experiencing MAJOR shifts  like Irenes tea cup and my 'jump' means that something real is happening

It COULD be caused by time travellers leaving little ripples

It COULD be the Matrix unravelling

It COULD be a change in local space time that is effecting quantum physics (NASA has mentioned we are in a 'denser' part of space)


Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 17, 2017, 03:37:16 PM
I'm looking at these things as errors, proof that someone who does not know what they're doing is messing with reality and has, likely, screwed up something that cannot be fixed.

There seems to be a cascade effect with more and more anomalies appearing, as if someone is attempting repairs and failing badly.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 17, 2017, 03:38:00 PM
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2) Any chance these are markers for those aware to help them wake up?



ok first off don't shoot me.. i am not going into politics here
 but the elephant in the room is politics.. by way of where we are now
HOWEVER
 i don't mean in the normal way of who did what
you have to step back to see what has been created

wheather we like what is happening or not  the big deal is that folks are starting to look around as see things they never have before
they are starting to realize their affect on  ALL of it..
that's the big deal
it's the wake up call to look to yourself for creating   imo
it's that time that cayce mentioned about us living thur
we're here and need to deal with ourselves on an individual basis of
what we want and how we can get it

cause i don't feel we have a lot of time or wiggle room to figure it out


pleaseeeeeeeeee don't use  my posting this as a he said she said..cause that is not what i mean at all
the change is here..  and the need to go higher into why we are here is my point
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 17, 2017, 03:45:43 PM
Mic, are you a member over at spookz? If so, search for a thread I did there probably around 2008-09 titled "On the increase of personal awakenings..." if they didn't delete it  ::)

On SPOOK CENTRAL....

You can use  GOOGLE to find ATS pages

just use ATS  seeker and  title

You get THIS

(http://thelivingmoon.com/00temp/seeker_01.png)

Then ENGAGE ADD BLOCKER :P and click on link  You do NOT need to join to read (and save copy) the thread and/or posts

And as they are yours there is no copy right issue

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 17, 2017, 03:48:36 PM
the seeker_713g
posted on Nov, 18 2008 @ 04:04 PM link
 

I really do not have a plausible reason for the ever increasing number of people that are becoming aware that there is so much more to our world and slice of reality than is normally acknowledged;

my personal jump in awareness, the dawning realization that things were not as they seemed and perhaps there was a lot more than what the MSM and the PTB were shoveling, started after recovering from a Pulmonary embolism in 2000;

ever since then I have noticed an underlying edge to most people I encounter, the feeling that they view reality thru a glass darkly.
yet I meet more and more individuals that are not content with the staus quo, seeing for themselves that things just don't add up.

I have always had a fascination with ufo's and outer space since the days of my childhood watching Star Trek, and have read any and all materials available for the last 4 decades.

I hope that all will share their own personal moments of 'awakening' with the rest of us, and the changes in their everyday experience since then for comparison, for the urge to move away from populated areas and the electric techno-polluted cities and urban areas steadily grows for me.

An old cabin with a creek, candles, and an outhouse sounds good these days. 

seeker

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread412660/pg1

ATS is so easy to view when Ads are blocked :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on March 17, 2017, 04:44:05 PM
On SPOOK CENTRAL....

You can use  GOOGLE to find ATS pages

just use ATS  seeker and  title
Or even better, as this will get you only results on ATS:

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/Google3.jpg)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 17, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51jh8IY3Y1L._SX329_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0062014102/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0062014102&linkCode=as2&tag=pegasreseacon-20&linkId=f4d2debb930ab87cc7becbdff0e14582)



The Holographic Universe: The Revolutionary Theory of Reality
by Michael Talbot (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0062014102/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0062014102&linkCode=as2&tag=pegasreseacon-20&linkId=f4d2debb930ab87cc7becbdff0e14582)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 17, 2017, 06:20:20 PM
I have the first 10 pages of my thread saved, will get the rest moved over here; I forgot how big it was  :o

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 17, 2017, 06:40:51 PM
I have the first 10 pages of my thread saved, will get the rest moved over here; I forgot how big it was  :o

Seeker

Delete all the trols skeptoid and dummies :P It will be a LOT shorter :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 17, 2017, 06:42:25 PM
For IRENE

What happened in 2008?


Dec. 16, 2008: NASA's five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a breach in Earth's magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist

Giant Breach in Earth's Magnetic Field Discovered


(https://smd-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/science-pink/s3fs-public/mnt/medialibrary/2008/12/16/16dec_giantbreach_resources/breachmodel_strip.jpg)
https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/16dec_giantbreach
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 17, 2017, 08:20:48 PM
Challenging Einstein
Time Lord…. Louis Essen D.Sc., F.R.S.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/General/Essen_01.jpg)

Essen was referred to as a “Time Lord” by Guardian Newspapers in Sept. 1997

During the last 50 years the revolution from cuckoo clocks to caesium clocks has gone largely unnoticed yet many inventions  from satellite navigation (GPS) to the Internet itself rely on clocks that measure time to an 
accuracy unheard of only a few decades ago.

At the centre of much of this change has been the work of a controversial British physicist, Louis Essen. Known as "Old Father Time", Essen built the first atomic clock, accurate to one second in 300 years - sufficient to detect minute irregularities in the spin of the Earth itself.

Essen soon realised that the definition of the second of time had now become a major block to realising the potential of his new clock.

It took a further 12 years before astronomical time ceased to exist. Essen fought to change the way the second is defined. Finally, in 1967 it was agreed internationally that the second should not be linked to the duration of the day or year (both of which vary) but to the natural periodicity of an atom of caesium.

Essen worked for 44 years as a civil servant at the National Physical Laboratory (NPL), Teddington; retiring in 1972.

He angered the Royal Society and the British government in the early 70’s when he published criticisms of Einstein’s special theory of relativity.

...

The first operational caesium clock in the world (below) was built at the NPL in 1955.

Two of the basic measurements in physics, time and length, have both been transformed due to Essen’s work. The basis of time measurement has switched from astronomy and the solar system to physics and the properties of the atom. His revised value for the velocity of light led to a further change in which length is now defined, not in terms of a metal bar, but the velocity of light multiplied by time. Essen is the only British physicist ever to have been honoured for his contribution to science by both the USA and USSR during the Cold War.

He received the Rabi Award from America and the Popov Medal from the former Soviet Union.

“John Harrison (who solved the Longitude problem) benefited sailors all over the world and Louis Essen has done something similar for the space voyagers of the future”.

Time for Reflection

Time for Reflection is a short autobiographical account of Essen’s work on Time Measurement and his 
controversial doubts about Einstein’s special theory.

It was written in 1996, the year before his death, and is reproduced here un-edited.

Famous for a Second

Famous for a Second is the title of a forthcoming book about Essen’s work and how it led him into a number of protracted struggles with the scientific establishment, resulting in the suppression of some of his work.

This book will describe how international scientific discoveries are made – and what can go wrong along the way. The story shifts between Britain, America and Russia as world-class laboratories competed not just for research funding but for status and the commercial jewels that can follow.

Famous for a Second is not only a book about a key discovery in the history of science, it is also a social documentary about a body of scientists and how the results of their research have changed the world in which we live.

Essen’s controversial views have caused him to be labelled a trouble-maker and dissident by some.The physicist who built the first atomic clock was finally stopped from writing about time in the mainstream scientific press!

The story begins with the development of radar during the War and how military secrets passed to America. Later, some of the same scientists tried to make an atomic clock in America.  Although beaten by Essen and his team, they went on to build commercial models that led to a proliferation of new uses for atomic time.

Can you help ?

I am trying to contact anyone who worked with Essen on time measurement or who has any anecdotes or other material they may like to share about the story of time in the 20th century. Tell me more

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/02files/Time_Lord_Louis_Essen.html

This is one of the pages I need to update and repair links

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on March 18, 2017, 07:13:53 AM


i think you have to add the Bart Jordon stuff as a subtext to the time glitch info here..but why did you stick him in the ancient civilization  heading?

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum2/index.php?topic=10122.msg133787;topicseen#new
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 18, 2017, 10:35:43 AM
For IRENE

What happened in 2008?

Dec. 16, 2008: NASA's five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a breach in Earth's magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist

Giant Breach in Earth's Magnetic Field Discovered

(https://smd-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/science-pink/s3fs-public/mnt/medialibrary/2008/12/16/16dec_giantbreach_resources/breachmodel_strip.jpg)
https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/16dec_giantbreach

Thanks Zorgon. :)

November 2008 is when the real weirdness hit my timeline. Things have been strange all my life, but Bizarre Mode really kicked in the night Numbnuts was elected.

I very much appreciate this information as it adds legitimacy to my personal experience.

ETA, we should pay close attention to the research being done with magnetism and the human brain. Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation studies show that a strong magnetic field generated right next to a subject's head will interfere with their ability to think properly.

They speak gibberish and display involuntary body movements.

I'll see if I can find videos.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 20, 2017, 03:53:56 AM
Per Zorgon, all posts dealing with magnetic influence on the human brain have been split and moved to:


Magneto brain zapping (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum2/index.php?topic=10130.msg133875;topicseen#new)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 20, 2017, 07:45:44 AM
2008 is about when I started to look at the world a whole lot differently. Also the year Seeker had his awakening thread on Spooks
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 22, 2017, 07:26:27 AM
I gave my wife a test of 100 known examples of the Mandela effect. Showed her comparison pictures of products/brand names and asked her questions as to quotes from movies/tv shows.


Well she failed. 90 percent "wrong".


Oops...She never noticed. Now she is on a quest to watch old movies and shows. 

She says "no damn way it is Magic Mirror on the Wall"
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 22, 2017, 09:56:54 AM
I gave my wife a test of 100 known examples of the Mandela effect. Showed her comparison pictures of products/brand names and asked her questions as to quotes from movies/tv shows.

Well she failed. 90 percent "wrong".

Oops...She never noticed. Now she is on a quest to watch old movies and shows. 

She says "no damn way it is Magic Mirror on the Wall"

Micjer,

Can you post a link to the test you speak of? I'd be interested to see how I score.

Thanks much,

Irene :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 22, 2017, 10:22:06 AM
I gave my wife a test of 100 known examples of the Mandela effect. Showed her comparison pictures of products/brand names and asked her questions as to quotes from movies/tv shows.


Well she failed. 90 percent "wrong".


Oops...She never noticed. Now she is on a quest to watch old movies and shows. 

She says "no damn way it is Magic Mirror on the Wall"
Start a thread on the test and post the 100 questions; will be interesting to see how everyone does...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 22, 2017, 11:04:24 AM
Start a thread on the test and post the 100 questions; will be interesting to see how everyone does...

 8)

Seeker

Excellent idea. Can't wait to see the questions.  :D
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 22, 2017, 12:52:58 PM
I will do that when I get back home. I am away for a bit and I am using my cell phone to post and find it hard to put links on.   So stay tuned.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 22, 2017, 02:35:18 PM
She says "no damn way it is Magic Mirror on the Wall"


(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/54004094.jpg)

it was AWAYS  "Mirror mirror" :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on March 22, 2017, 03:23:47 PM
it was AWAYS  "Mirror mirror" :P
I remember "mirror mirror", but I don't remember if it was from that movie or not.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 22, 2017, 06:54:56 PM
Here is what will happen at Midnight (UT) Dec 21st 2012...

The Matrix will be reset...

Problem is... no one will know anything changed :D

Found the answer to the time line question!😎
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 22, 2017, 07:04:49 PM
Found the answer to the time line question!😎

Yep, I saw a speaker say there was a so called catastrophe in 2012 which required a timeline change; but not everyone made it, just saying hon. xo
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Eighthman on March 22, 2017, 07:11:18 PM
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3233995/pg1

Over at the "Moran" site, some guy posted a future page from 2018 !  If this sort of timeline stuff amuses you, give it a look.  Apparently, Texas and NY get nuked - perhaps by jihadists.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 22, 2017, 07:15:05 PM
ok boys and girls, I am going to move these posts to the current thread...

done, posts moved.

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Eighthman on March 22, 2017, 07:16:26 PM
One weird thing about that time period:  you had claims from people across the world foreseeing a "killshot" asteroid that would end civilization.  It was reported to be very consistent amidst remote viewers and people dreaming about it. They set up online discussions and held meetings about it.


And nothing happened. Very strange.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 22, 2017, 07:30:16 PM
Google....
Mandela effect Dolores Cannon  youtube.

I listened to it today.  Mind bending material.

I tell you that Matrix Traveller S INFORMATION Is bang on when compared to her info.


She spoke of people not finding a gas station similar to Z 's experience.
2 hours long but I found it well worth my time. 

We are all creating our own play and living our lives to learn.  She says we have chosen our own fate and if we seem to be having a tough time it is because we chose that life ahead of our experience.


Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 22, 2017, 08:39:20 PM
Google....
Mandela effect Dolores Cannon  youtube.

I listened to it today.  Mind bending material.

I tell you that Matrix Traveller S INFORMATION Is bang on when compared to her info.


She spoke of people not finding a gas station similar to Z 's experience.
2 hours long but I found it well worth my time. 

We are all creating our own play and living our lives to learn.  She says we have chosen our own fate and if we seem to be having a tough time it is because we chose that life ahead of our experience.

Well, I'm the biggest idiot then Mic; cuz sometimes I have had it.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 22, 2017, 08:43:54 PM
Well, I'm the biggest idiot then Mic; cuz sometimes I have had it.
biggles, you need to read about my death experience, for I cover that in there...we volunteer to come here and also choose our major experiences; we are here to experience all things...

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 22, 2017, 09:10:08 PM
biggles, you need to read about my death experience, for I cover that in there...we volunteer to come here and also choose our major experiences; we are here to experience all things...

Seeker

Could you give me a link honey, would love to read.  I'll do a search honey, I'm just way too lazy with all these darn meds I take, you do enough as it is pet. xo
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 23, 2017, 04:38:29 AM
Could you give me a link honey, would love to read.  I'll do a search honey, I'm just way too lazy with all these darn meds I take, you do enough as it is pet. xo
Well, I just went thru all my threads and posts looking for a link to it here and can't find it  :o I did find the original over at spookz, but I know it was also over here, remember talking to Zorgon about it and he suggesting putting it in the Mystic's realm; also distinctly remembering discussing it with Matrix, and that thread actually led to a major confrontation between me and Deuem back in 2014...

A Look at the other side: my near death experience (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread469470/pg1)

now I am going to have to move it over here again

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 23, 2017, 05:47:01 AM
Bigsy she says that we have chosen our particular lives to learn and fend off Kharma. The tougher our lives the more we accomplish. She also said if we screw it up we have to do it over again!

I look at it like a degree of difficulty dive in a competition. The tougher the dive you attempt and accomplish, the higher your score, or more Kharma that you have burnt off!

Looks like you have chosen a tough one Bigsy, but think of the rewards!   Gold to you hon! :-*
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 23, 2017, 05:59:02 AM
I'm trying Mic. xo
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 23, 2017, 06:00:36 AM
Well, I just went thru all my threads and posts looking for a link to it here and can't find it  :o I did find the original over at spookz, but I know it was also over here, remember talking to Zorgon about it and he suggesting putting it in the Mystic's realm; also distinctly remembering discussing it with Matrix, and that thread actually led to a major confrontation between me and Deuem back in 2014...

A Look at the other side: my near death experience (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread469470/pg1)


now I am going to have to move it over here again

 8)

Seeker
Thanks Seeker, goin to read now. xo
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 23, 2017, 06:06:01 AM
Well, I just went thru all my threads and posts looking for a link to it here and can't find it  :o I did find the original over at spookz, but I know it was also over here, remember talking to Zorgon about it and he suggesting putting it in the Mystic's realm; also distinctly remembering discussing it with Matrix, and that thread actually led to a major confrontation between me and Deuem back in 2014...

A Look at the other side: my near death experience (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread469470/pg1)



now I am going to have to move it over here again

 8)

Seeker
Heavens above Seeker, I cannot believe your heart stopped for that long.  That is enough to give you brain damage.

I have read similar experiences of people who have had NDEs; yours was a doozy.

No more climbing up high places for you dear. xo

Oh good grief I think I stuffed up another post again Seeker, sorry buddy.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 23, 2017, 07:47:07 AM
Nice thread Seeker.

Interesting how you seemed to have a choice between the white light and the tunnel.

I have to think  about the movie Men in Black. When they wanted to erase your memory and set you "straight" it was the pen with the bright light that they used. Somewhere Soma had a thread on the beliefs of the Hindu of life after death. They spoke of a white light choice, or a Blue one. Blue was the one you wanted as the White one was to trap us here.



I have never had a NDE, however your account, Seeker is what I expect happens. I believe we judge ourselves and feel the pain that we have caused others
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 23, 2017, 09:41:23 AM
Well, I just went thru all my threads and posts looking for a link to it here and can't find it  :o I did find the original over at spookz, but I know it was also over here, remember talking to Zorgon about it and he suggesting putting it in the Mystic's realm; also distinctly remembering discussing it with Matrix, and that thread actually led to a major confrontation between me and Deuem back in 2014...

A Look at the other side: my near death experience (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread469470/pg1)

now I am going to have to move it over here again

 8)

Seeker

Wow, amazing story. I want out of this hellhole, so if given a choice I'm gone.

Coming here to learn only to constantly suffer is not my idea of living. I want to be with my family. All but one have passed. It's time for me to leave.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 23, 2017, 12:16:40 PM
Nice thread Seeker.

Interesting how you seemed to have a choice between the white light and the tunnel.

I have to think  about the movie Men in Black. When they wanted to erase your memory and set you "straight" it was the pen with the bright light that they used. Somewhere Soma had a thread on the beliefs of the Hindu of life after death. They spoke of a white light choice, or a Blue one. Blue was the one you wanted as the White one was to trap us here.

Do not go into the light  8) trust me, if you are truly crossing the veil, the tunnel will open and draw you in...`



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I have never had a NDE, however your account, Seeker is what I expect happens. I believe we judge ourselves and feel the pain that we have caused others
I can point you to 10,000 accounts of nde's just like mine; read any of the works of Dr. Raymond Moody, or watch the movie "Saved by the light" starring Eric Roberts; it is about a friend of mine named Dannion Brinkley...

 8)  Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 23, 2017, 12:44:31 PM
Wow, amazing story. I want out of this hellhole, so if given a choice I'm gone.

Coming here to learn only to constantly suffer is not my idea of living. I want to be with my family. All but one have passed. It's time for me to leave.
There is many truths to be found in the so-called "occult"(hidden) esoteric teachings of many such as the Tibetan Monks, the Hindu, The Quabbalah, many relegated to the bin of myth and legend...

there is a reset button for those that can't deal with their current paradigm (suicide) but it is a reset button; you are going to start all over and relive everything up until you pushed the reset until you make it past it...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 23, 2017, 01:04:43 PM
There is many truths to be found in the so-called "occult"(hidden) esoteric teachings of many such as the Tibetan Monks, the Hindu, The Quabbalah, many relegated to the bin of myth and legend...

there is a reset button for those that can't deal with their current paradigm (suicide) but it is a reset button; you are going to start all over and relive everything up until you pushed the reset until you make it past it...

 8)

Seeker

I'm tired of being a tool for the amusement of the gods. Our masters are not benevolent. They torture us for sport.

Religious and other philosophies may give comfort to some, but all they are is man's feeble attempt to understand what is going on and what has us in its grip.

I respect that you and others believe, Seeker, but I can't beat the same path to enlightenment. I've read many of these things you've mentioned. They've all failed to convince me they have the answers to the questions I'm asking.

Irene
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 23, 2017, 01:58:50 PM
We are all looking for the "truth". 

Some say we can't handle the truth!

Atheists feel that this is all we get. One life good or bad. Once we die....blackness.....Done....


Religious folks believe follow the "word" or eternal damnation....btw please send money!

What we all believe is personal and by no means would I want to push my beliefs on anyone. This world sucks for many and can't blame anyone for wanting out.

One concern I have is whether there are manevolant et's keeping us trapped here and would go to any level to deceive us.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 23, 2017, 02:01:57 PM
The three things that convince me I'm on the right path. Why? Because these three things were corroborated by my own experiences and others.

1. Carlos Castaneda in The Active Side of Infinity -

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Every one of us human beings has two minds. One is totally ours, and it is like a faint voice that always brings us order, directness, purpose. The other mind is a foreign installation. It brings us conflict, self-assertion, doubts, hopelessness.

2. My posts in this thread flesh it out -

Hunt for the Skinwalker (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum2/index.php?topic=9850.msg129935#msg129935)

3. John Lear's statement from the film about him, "Immaculate Deception". John is the real deal -

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The message is pretty scary. It's hard to tell people that you're owned lock, stock, and barrel by the ETs.

You don't do anything that they don't know about, haven't directed and, personally, guided.

These entities are not our friends.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 23, 2017, 02:09:23 PM
It is said that the Grays call our meat suits " soul Containers" and yes, they do try to control and contain; that is why you don't go into the light  8)

they, for lack of a better term, are a virus infecting the matrix...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Amaterasu on March 23, 2017, 02:29:42 PM
Been busy and finally got a chance to check in to see what responses I might have gotten only to find that My comments and Others' have been moved...but no link to WHERE.  At least I could find none...
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 23, 2017, 02:58:34 PM
Been busy and finally got a chance to check in to see what responses I might have gotten only to find that My comments and Others' have been moved...but no link to WHERE.  At least I could find none...
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum2/index.php?topic=10008.msg133882#msg133882 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum2/index.php?topic=10008.msg133882#msg133882)

you miss a day, you miss a lot...

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: simon_alex0327 on March 23, 2017, 05:35:19 PM
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3233995/pg1

Over at the "Moran" site, some guy posted a future page from 2018 !  If this sort of timeline stuff amuses you, give it a look.  Apparently, Texas and NY get nuked - perhaps by jihadists.

Did anyone check this out??
One thing I found weird and eerie (following on from yesterday's terrible news from London) was the title of a post featured on the screenshot he provided of the forum that was from 2018. It is the fourth one from the top and states about Theresa May and the Big Ben attacks. Weird or what, seeing that his original post is from 7/15/2016
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 23, 2017, 07:12:18 PM
I only seen a snippet about this.

Do you think it is one of those false flag things, I'll have to keep reading.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 25, 2017, 07:20:37 AM
The 2018 thing was a joke I believe.   Someone made up a spoof of what the world would be like next year with Trump in power. (they apparently don't approve)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 27, 2017, 08:38:35 AM
Another glitch to report. I read this morning that Ted Koppel recently appeared on "Hannity".

In my timeline, Koppel died in the early 2000's.  :o
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on March 27, 2017, 09:40:53 AM
Another glitch to report. I read this morning that Ted Koppel recently appeared on "Hannity".

In my timeline, Koppel died in the early 2000's.  :o
Ted Koppel retired on Nov. 22, 2005, and has been working for the discovery channel; Peter Jennings died, but I don't remember anything about Koppel...

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 27, 2017, 09:47:05 AM
Ok this was a weird one yesterday.

My wife and I were driving through Detroit yesterday.  We passed a small car that had a magnetic business sign on the side of her car that was put on slightly crooked.  My wife commented on how it looked silly being on crooked like that.  Well this car was in the slower lane as we passed.

Well about a minute later we come up to another small car.....same one!!!!  Same crooked sign, same driver....


She had not passed me as we had all stayed in the same lanes.......wtf.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 27, 2017, 10:03:33 AM
That's definitely a freak out moment Mic.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 27, 2017, 10:15:55 AM
Ted Koppel retired on Nov. 22, 2005, and has been working for the discovery channel; Peter Jennings died, but I don't remember anything about Koppel...

Seeker

Peter Jennings died too, yes.

I remember Ted Koppel passing because the night of his death "Nightline" did a retrospective on him. I was at work buried in reports when it came on.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 27, 2017, 02:21:32 PM
i think there are lots of stories like that out there but most people have just dismissed them as nothing important  and others ridicule and scoff at anyone telling them

It's like the old days of UFO sightings  If you saw one you kept your mouth shut because you didn't want to be labeled as nuts

The little things like spelling changes are a tell... but when things like Irene's tea cup and your car sign case start appearing then we are escalating

I recall back at ATS when i started looking at this years ago there were many stories of people that died and they are still alive

There was one fellow who had proof of where he was when the Shuttle blew up  (his issues was the reported DATE was at issue

Just yesterday John Lear asked me an\bout something we were dealing with Facebook related and I went to send him the transcripts...  I was sure this had just happened a few months back but the DATES on those screencaps says 2015. This may not be mandella related but it seems events slip back into time really rapidly these days  2015? 

Sgt Rock and Role  was it really 2015 we dealt with the 4 names issue?

 :o

 8)

So far I have not heard any reports from people that experienced a major timeline physical jolt like my daughter and I did...  I was hoping someone else would come forward.

But regarding Sex IN the City  Jerry (Zenbuoy) WORKED on that film  and his paystubs were always IN  not AND
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on March 27, 2017, 02:49:52 PM
The only thing I can think of was, about that same time that you had your experience, I went to get out of bed one morning, and I was dizzy as hell.  I had to hold on to the edge of the bed and everything was just spinning. 

I was not hung over,  quite sure it wasn't vertigo as it didn't last very long and haven't experienced it before or after.

Never really thought about it again, until this discussion.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 27, 2017, 04:25:29 PM
The only thing I can think of was, about that same time that you had your experience, I went to get out of bed one morning, and I was dizzy as hell.  I had to hold on to the edge of the bed and everything was just spinning. 

I was not hung over,  quite sure it wasn't vertigo as it didn't last very long and haven't experienced it before or after.

Never really thought about it again, until this discussion.

Well, the current stream of thought is we have moved from the Sagittarius arm to the Orion arm; don't know how they can tell, maybe from powerful telescopes.

And if one more person says it wasn't Sex In the City I will blow a gasket.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 27, 2017, 04:28:16 PM
Sorry guys, the numbnut put my quote inside Mic's if one of the admin's can unquote mine from his that would be good, sorry again.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 27, 2017, 04:29:32 PM
I gave you gold, Biggles, because you made me laugh so loud I scared the cat!

 ;D
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 27, 2017, 04:30:03 PM
Sorry guys, the numbnut put my quote inside Mic's if one of the admin's can unquote mine from his that would be good, sorry again.

I'll do it for ya. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 27, 2017, 04:37:08 PM
I'll do it for ya. :)

Thank you honey, I'm glad I made you laugh though, we need more of that.  ;D
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 27, 2017, 04:41:36 PM
Thank you honey, I'm glad I made you laugh though, we need more of that.  ;D

Oh, I rarely laugh like that. I spend 23 of the 24 hours of the day alone, usually.

:)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on March 27, 2017, 04:42:42 PM
And if one more person says it wasn't Sex In the City I will blow a gasket.
It wasn't Sex In the City.  :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on March 27, 2017, 04:46:43 PM
It wasn't Sex In the City.  :P

Yes, it was.  :P

"I fart in your general direction!"  :P :P

(Stolen from "Monty Python" - just in case ArMaP doesn't translate.)
 
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on March 27, 2017, 05:00:46 PM
It wasn't Sex In the City.  :P

It was so,  :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on March 28, 2017, 03:23:32 AM
The only thing I can think of was, about that same time that you had your experience, I went to get out of bed one morning, and I was dizzy as hell.  I had to hold on to the edge of the bed and everything was just spinning.

AH!  Now THERE is something...  perhaps I need to seek out events that occurred at or around that moment.  My head was spinning too  I was completely 'lost in space' for a few minutes when I saw where I was... that only happened twice to me before

The first time was years ago when i was Rally Driving...  we got lost (this was harder to do than you might think because you had a route to follow, maps and instructions for turns, milages and a navigator)  So we were LOST  We stopped at a gas station to get our location and what i thought was North was in fact south... at that realization I got dizzy and everything spun for a few minutes.  It was because my orientation was resetting itself.

You have to know something about me :P my sense of direction is such that I can walk into a forest for hours then can say "If we go that way, it's a shorter trip home"  proved that a couple times LOL but that one time my friends didn't trust me and returned the way they came... I was back at the cottage for an hour before they made it back

So this disorientation for me was a HUGE thing.  The second time it happened was at that Pennsylvania Reenactor event... I never really thought about it until now...  I was over shooting muskets on the range... next thing I knew I woke up on my back in my tent.  I was told they saw me just drop in the field and put me in the tent. 

In the light of us not finding that wagon... it seems the disorientation is part of the effect  for me at least and seems for you.

NOW I have a new thing to look at

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Never really thought about it again, until this discussion.

Same here  thanks for bringing it up.

There have been reports of people feeling such effects in Bermuda Triangle occurances  and Admiral Byrd had a similar disorientation when he got 'lost' over Antarctica. His diary also records that the compass and gyros went haywire too

Hmmmm lots of doors to look at here
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on April 01, 2017, 09:10:26 AM

you know searches go side ways sometimes just like threads on here and so there i am going from one crazy bit to another last night
and
 i had the thought while listening to them go on about mind control
. that the time glitch.. the real different places thing not the mandela thing
that between the satelites, harrp,  the supposed smart dust,etc.
that the  time lines have become more visible and easy to transverse..willing or unwilling..kind of a side effect of something else
that by trying to do mind control  some of our minds are able to do a sort of time travel from one place to another ..even if it is only for 5 miles or so

i also wonder if their ( i don't have a specific name for them) messing with this is also either part of the plot or a sad side effect causing altism , Alzheimer's, trans sexual things and just plain crazies... all of the things that weren't so prevalent 30/40 years ago
maybe they are winning by default

...

you want scary listen to this guy  Stewart Swerdlow Mind Control
 after good old
 Dr. Robert Duncan

geeeeeeeze
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on April 01, 2017, 11:50:46 AM
I believe I've had a "close encounter" with the Smart Dust. I'm not joking. It was the night of November 4, 2008, when Numbnuts was elected.

I remember thinking the HVAC system had gone haywire or something. My nose went absolutely bonkers. I could not stop it itching.

As those of you who are following this thread know, my timeline changed that night. I have not been the same since.

ETA, I've been getting the date wrong for a while now. Above is the correct date. I remember what day it happened because the changes to my timeline were so profound.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on April 01, 2017, 01:29:21 PM
Regarding Robert Duncan, he is absolutely on-target. I can corroborate some of the stuff he talks about.  :o
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: simon_alex0327 on April 06, 2017, 04:34:20 PM
Ok.... excuse my ramblings...
I can remember the Disney show shown in the the Uk I think on a Sunday afternoon. Looked forward to watching this each week, hoping for cartoons, but also loved the shows about nature etc. I can always remember Tinker Bell dotting the "I"  with her wand at the start of each show. Now its being said that this never happened. My wife whos American ( where we live now ) can also remember the same thing.
Tonight... while watching "Wheel of Fortune"  ( I know im sad !! ) the whole week is based around Disney world and trips that can be won here.
Each night on the opening credits and also interlaced into the show.... Tinker Bell flies in and waves her wand over what is being featured with a "poof" of stardust/fairy dust....
My question is... why would this be shown now????... if the "old" Tinker Bell didn't dot the "I" why is this same "clip" as I remember it being shown now placed in a different context. Are we having our noses rubbed into what we thought was correct??? This whole subject is doing my head in!!
Heres something I just found.... isn't this what we all remember?????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNwPmzTsCY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNwPmzTsCY)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Amaterasu on April 06, 2017, 05:00:13 PM
"Making memories..."  Hmmmmm....  Quien sabe?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on April 06, 2017, 05:03:26 PM
Simon I remember exactly how it was in your clip above.

I've had it up to my back teeth now, let it come.  Pfffft. xxoo
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on April 06, 2017, 07:10:02 PM



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My question is... why would this be shown now????



Simon   maybe it is so we can ask ourselves..
what else do i see differently?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on April 06, 2017, 08:16:37 PM
Quote from: simon_alex0327 link=topic=10008.msg134741#msg134741
Heres something I just found.... isn't this what we all remember?????

Thank you Simon

That is awesome! Yes that is what 'we' remember  Thank you for providing that clip. This is exactly what i was looking for in this thread  some hard evidence

:D  Saving this and will add it to the web page tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkClRSNF6G0
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on April 07, 2017, 06:09:14 AM
I don't get it, is Tinker Bell supposed to be dotting the "i" in the videos above? ???
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on May 01, 2017, 08:22:41 PM


just another log to the fire...



http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20161021-why-there-could-be-many-copies-of-you

Why there could be many identical copies of you
We ask one of the hardest questions in the Universe, is there another you out there and if so, can we find our cosmic twin?

By Melissa Hogenboom and Pierangelo Pirak
24 October 2016
This story is nominated for a Webby Award for Best Film & Video. Vote here.
BBC Earth is also nominated for a Webby, for Best Science Website. Vote here.

In theory this is not the only Universe that might exist, and in many others, identical copies of us can be found.

The question is, how do we get there?
BBC Earth's Melissa Hogenboom goes on the hunt for her cosmic twin.
Melissa Hogenboom is BBC Earth's feature writer. She is @melissasuzanneh on Twitter. Video produced by Pierangelo Pirak; he is @ppirak on twitter.

video is at link

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http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160318-why-there-might-be-many-more-universes-besides-our-own

The idea of parallel universes may seem bizarre, but physics has found all sorts of reasons why they should exist
By Philip Ball
21 March 2016
Is our Universe one of many?
The idea of parallel universes, once consigned to science fiction, is now becoming respectable among scientists – at least, among physicists, who have a tendency to push ideas to the limits of what is conceivable.

In fact there are almost too many other potential universes. Physicists have proposed several candidate forms of "multiverse", each made possible by a different aspect of the laws of physics.

The trouble is, virtually by definition we probably cannot ever visit these other universes to confirm that they exist. So the question is, can we devise other ways to test for the existence of entire universes that we cannot see or touch?

Worlds within worlds
In at least some of these alternative universes, it has been suggested, we have doppelgängers living lives much like – perhaps almost identical to – our own.
Giordano Bruno speculated that the Universe might be infinite

That idea tickles our ego and awakens our fantasies, which is doubtless why the multiverse theories, however far-out they seem, enjoy so much popularity. We have embraced alternative universes in works of fiction ranging from Philip K. Dick's The Man in the High Castle to movies like Sliding Doors.

Indeed, there is nothing new about the idea of a multiverse, as philosopher of religion Mary-Jane Rubenstein explains in her 2014 book Worlds Without End.
In the mid-16th century, Copernicus argued that the Earth is not the centre of the Universe. Several decades later, Galileo's telescope showed him stars beyond measure: a glimpse of the vastness of the cosmos.

So at the end of the 16th century, the Italian philosopher Giordano Bruno speculated that the Universe might be infinite, populated by an infinite number of inhabited worlds.


long article go to the link for the rest
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on May 02, 2017, 03:45:24 AM
How many times have we heard that truth is often stranger than fiction?  Or that it is amazing that today's science fiction becomes tomorrow's reality?

Roger Zelazny wrote the "Chronicles of Amber" about the true Earth, that cast innumerable shadows (timelines) thruout the multi-verse; does it not stand to reason that if there are many timelines, that in each one there would numerous copies of us, too?

Altho I wonder about the different personas we would encounter...

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on May 02, 2017, 04:40:54 AM
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/anigif_enhanced-buzz-32206-1366238293-20_zps535ec0af.gif) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/anigif_enhanced-buzz-32206-1366238293-20_zps535ec0af.gif.html)


....but why are we in this particular timeline?

....did we all shift at once, or just some of us and joined others that were already here. Hence the different memories in the Mandela effect theory.

....will we shift again?

(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/dosequis_zpsfdc83bd4.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/dosequis_zpsfdc83bd4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on May 02, 2017, 04:51:29 AM
How many times have we heard that truth is often stranger than fiction?  Or that it is amazing that today's science fiction becomes tomorrow's reality?

Roger Zelazny wrote the "Chronicles of Amber" about the true Earth, that cast innumerable shadows (timelines) thruout the multi-verse; does it not stand to reason that if there are many timelines, that in each one there would numerous copies of us, too?

Altho I wonder about the different personas we would encounter...

Seeker

I'll try and see if I can track down that book Chronicles of Amber, sounds like a very interesting read.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on May 02, 2017, 05:01:18 AM
....but why are we in this particular timeline?

It appears that some catastrophic event did occur; whether it was in 2012 or just recently remains to be seen;I didn't start noticing major changes until approximately early last fall...

Quote
....did we all shift at once, or just some of us and joined others that were already here. Hence the different memories in the Mandela effect theory.

From what I have been able to gather, examine, and deduce, not all of us made the transition to here; on the surface it would seem that those of us that remember JC Penny instead of Penney and the Ford blue oval without the tail on the crossbar are from timeline A...

People like Delores Cannon state that many of us volunteered to be here for upcoming changes...

Quote
....will we shift again?
That remains to be seen;  8) did we jump to a different timeline, or are two lines becoming one?

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on May 02, 2017, 05:06:31 AM
Well, when a catastrophe happened and we were then moved, we wouldn't be merging with that timeline.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on May 02, 2017, 05:09:52 AM
I'll try and see if I can track down that book Chronicles of Amber, sounds like a very interesting read.
It is, biggsy; the first book will get your attention, titled "Nine Princes in Amber"

Enjoy  8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on May 02, 2017, 05:11:28 AM
Well, when a catastrophe happened and we were then moved, we wouldn't be merging with that timeline.
It is hard to say, since this is all speculation at this time; all we know for certain is that things appear different than remembered to a lot of us...

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Littleenki on May 02, 2017, 05:13:35 AM
What I find odd, is that with all the profound events and changes going on in the world these days, I always am left saying " well, I guess I should be glad Im here to see this or that"

I never thought there might be a reason or cause that placed me here during this time, perhaps theres some validity to that thought, of how we may be volunteers, Seeker.

To me, it seems there could be overlapping realities, which are so ludicrous one day, but so full of clarity the next..just keeping up with the flashing frames of today, leaves one behind in preparing for the next onslaught of new oddness tomorrow....

On our heels? Head deep in the sand? Here for the duration?

Who knows anymore?

Just to consider the quantum nature of the universe, means one is experiencing the multiple possibilities which can exist simultaneously within this "Matrix", and the possibility becomes reality..if only but for a fleeting immeasurable moment.

Humans are eventually either going to get it right, or be doomed to these 12-13000 year cycles of cataclysm and rebirth...an understanding of all of this might as well be 10 dimensions away as it stands now.

Sorry to place a philosophical bent upon this whole discussion from my own viewpoint, but is not my viewpoint, your's tomorrow?

Cheers
Le
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on May 02, 2017, 05:23:27 AM
My family was (is) quite religious, yet while growing up, their beliefs never felt right to me.  There were way too many holes in what they preached.

Even as a little kid I always believed in reincarnation, yet most of my relatives still don't.  I remember bumping my head badly on a beam in a barn, and thinking, what did I do to deserve that? (karma)  I always felt there was more to this life than what we looking at.  A deeper meaning.

So perhaps I am a volunteer, here to experience the changes.

All I know is reading Deloras Cannon's material, or reading about Seeker's experiences when he crossed over, it sure feels like the truth.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on May 02, 2017, 05:26:12 AM
Oh, I'm sure someone like yourself Mic is a volunteer.

I need to find those posts about Seeker's NDE.

When I use the search button here it never goes to what I want.  buggar.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Littleenki on May 02, 2017, 05:45:31 AM
My family was (is) quite religious, yet while growing up, their beliefs never felt right to me.  There were way too many holes in what they preached.

Even as a little kid I always believed in reincarnation, yet most of my relatives still don't.  I remember bumping my head badly on a beam in a barn, and thinking, what did I do to deserve that? (karma)  I always felt there was more to this life than what we looking at.  A deeper meaning.

So perhaps I am a volunteer, here to experience the changes.

All I know is reading Deloras Cannon's material, or reading about Seeker's experiences when he crossed over, it sure feels like the truth.

Fret not, there is something greater...karma, religion, all facets of it, with us all chomping at the bit to observe and understand the whole.

Those Ive known to have died and crossed over for a short time before returning, have all expressed the same similar experiences to me...are they products of the brain, or products of the Mind?

Seems to me the folks who pondered the "akashic record" are onto something, and the nde is basically like temporarily like plugging in a usb to a hard drive.

Cheers!
Le
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on May 02, 2017, 06:16:14 AM
I'm still in the Hell timeline because when I read my animal petitions and sign them I know I'm in it.  I haven't bloody shifted anywhere.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Littleenki on May 02, 2017, 07:05:41 AM
I'm still in the Hell timeline because when I read my animal petitions and sign them I know I'm in it.  I haven't bloody shifted anywhere.
On that animal petition note, it is a damn shame, what was here before us, is treated like so much fodder for humanity., Perhaps Thors Nibiru is a source of humanity's reset or true core values, a return to some golden age..a bright light in the sky, ignored by the masses, but felt by those who see an external input may be the only hope we have left.

Heck, if it is a planet, thats even better, since so many questions may get answered, but...is humanity ready for the answers it finds, in such a case? We can only hope so, and prepare as we see best.

Like I said in a comment somewhere else, Im glad Im here to see all this...there is a reason.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on May 06, 2017, 09:48:59 AM
  the latest question in the mandela effect made me think of this
  The Harmonic_Convergence




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_Convergence

The Harmonic Convergence is the name given to one of the world's first globally synchronized meditation events, which occurred on August 16–17, 1987. This event also closely coincided with an exceptional alignment of planets in the Solar System.
Although the event had been predicted by author Tony Shearer in his book Lord of the Dawn (1971), the principal organizer of the Harmonic Convergence event was José Argüelles.
According to Shearer's interpretation of Aztec cosmology, the selected date marked the end of twenty-two cycles of 52 years each, or 1,144 years in all. The twenty-two cycles were divided into thirteen "heaven" cycles, which began in AD 843 and ended in 1519, when the nine "hell" cycles began, ending 468 years later in 1987. The very beginning of the nine "hell" cycles was precisely the day that Hernán Cortés landed in Mexico, April 22, 1519 (coinciding with "1 Reed" on the Aztec/Mayan calendar, the day sacred to Mesoamerican cultural hero Quetzalcoatl). The 9 hell cycles of 52 years each ended precisely on August 16–17, 1987. Shearer introduced the dates and the prophecy to Arguelles in 1970, and he eventually co-opted them and created the name Harmonic Convergence as the public title of the event.
The timing of the Harmonic Convergence was allegedly significant in the Maya calendar, with some consideration also given to European and Asian astrological traditions. The chosen dates have the distinction of allegedly marking a planetary alignment with the Sun, Moon and six out of eight planets being "part of the grand trine." Though Arguelles eventually connected the timing of the Harmonic Convergence with his understanding of the significance of Maya calendrics, the dates themselves were derived not from Maya cosmology but from Tony Shearer's reconstructed Aztec prophecies.

Astrological alignment[edit]
According to the astrologer Neil Michelsen's "The American Ephemeris," on 24 August 1987 there was an exceptional alignment of planets in the Solar System. Eight planets were aligned in an unusual configuration called a grand trine.
The Sun, Moon and six out of eight planets formed part of the grand trine, that is, they were aligned at the apexes of an equilateral triangle when viewed from the Earth.
The Sun, Moon, Mars and Venus were in exact alignment, astrologically called a conjunction at the first degree of Virgo in Tropical Astrology. Mercury was in the fourth degree of Virgo which most astrologers count as part of the same conjunction being within the "orb" of influence.[1] Jupiter was in Aries, and Saturn and Uranus in Sagittarius completing the grand trine. However some believe that this is an Earth grand trine with Sun/Moon/Mars/Venus/Mercury in the initial degrees of Virgo, Neptune at 5 degrees of Capricorn, and Jupiter in the last degree of Aries (anaretic degree), on the cusp of Taurus. Uranus, and especially Saturn are on the edge of this trine.
Controversy is associated to the claim that this occurrence was a unique event. Grand trines, where planets are at 120 degree positions forming an equilateral triangle are not uncommon or particularly noteworthy. Traditional astrology does not consider trines to be action points, so the notion of a special shift in world history would not be in the offing under a grand trine. Hence, many traditional astrologers do not regard this occurrence to be of significant importance. There is no evidence that astronomers have ever considered it significant.
Astrological interpretations[edit]
The convergence is purported to have "corresponded with a great shift in the earth’s energy from warlike to peaceful."[2]
Believers of this esoteric prophecy maintain that the Harmonic Convergence ushered in a five-year period of Earth's "cleansing", where many of the planet's "false structures of separation" would collapse.[citation needed]
According to Argüelles, the event came at the end of these "hell" cycles and the beginning of a new age of universal peace. Adherents believed that signs indicated a "major energy shift" was about to occur, a turning point in Earth's collective karma and dharma, and that this energy was powerful enough to change the global perspective of man from one of conflict to one of co-operation. Actress and author Shirley MacLaine called it a "window of light,"[3] allowing access to higher realms of awareness.
According to Argüelles, the Harmonic Convergence also began the final 25-year countdown to the end of the Mayan Long Count in 2012, which would be the so-called end of history and the beginning of a new 5,125-year cycle. Evils of the modern world, e.g. war, materialism, violence, abuses, injustice, oppression, etc. would end with the birth of the 6th Sun and the 5th Earth on December 21, 2012.[citation needed]
Power centers[edit]
An important part of the Harmonic Convergence observances was the idea of congregating at "power centers."[4] Power centers were places, such as Mount Shasta, California,[5] Mount Fuji,[6] and Mount Yamnuska[7] where the spiritual energy was held to be particularly strong. The belief was that if 144,000 people assembled at these power centers and meditated for peace, that the arrival of the new era would be facilitated.[4]

............................................

good article here



http://www.edgemagazine.net/2016/04/the-harmonic-convergence-revisited/

Does anyone remember the Harmonic Convergence? Back in 1987? It was an unusual astrological pile-up that, according to organizer José Arguelles, was supposed to send a “vibrational signal” to our species to change in the direction of unity and peace. Just a flash-in-the-pan, fringe spiritual event with no lasting consequences, right? There isn’t much peace on Earth to show for it.

The event, in and of itself, had some historical significance in that it was massive,


....
maybe the shift becoming visible WAS because of the internet..hummmmmmmmmm


Or maybe it did, though there were reputable journalists of the era saying it would never amount to much. The years between 1987 and 1995 pretty closely bracketed the incubation phase of a world-changing phenomenon. 1987 marked the first year that the internet had significantly more users than the tiny, elite group it had prior to that time, and 1995 is when the internet was privatized and really took off in a huge way. So 1987-95 is the period of time when the internet as we know it was developed and launched for mass consumption.


Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on May 06, 2017, 09:58:27 AM
I'm sorry. I think astrology is a load of crap.

As far as someone predicting mass meditation a few years later, I think it was less prediction than someone taking a previously published idea and planning to manifest it under the guise of some mystic connection.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on May 06, 2017, 10:18:42 AM


hey no need to be sorry on what you do or do not believe.. it's all personal anyway

forget meditation
forget astrology

the fact of the matter is that the planets lining up is a big deal.. in several ways.
think of the gravitation  or energy waves created..
those do affect us wheather we notice them or not....

but just think of what the mental awareness factor becomes when so many are focused on one thing
does it make it happen?..don't know.. some say yes .. some say no
BUT
could that centering on something be a factor in a huge shift..why not?

consciousness doesn't  change what is there but our awareness of what is there imo


Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on May 06, 2017, 10:27:26 AM

hey no need to be sorry on what you do or do not believe.. it's all personal anyway

forget meditation
forget astrology

the fact of the matter is that the planets lining up is a big deal.. in several ways.
think of the gravitation  or energy waves created..
those do affect us wheather we notice them or not....

but just think of what the mental awareness factor becomes when so many are focused on one thing
does it make it happen?..don't know.. some say yes .. some say no
BUT
could that centering on something be a factor in a huge shift..why not?

consciousness doesn't  change what is there but our awareness of what is there imo

I've never doubted the effects of gravity and magnetism. The evidence is all around us. I don't doubt the effects of the Moon on us. Other celestial bodies probably behave in the same ways. The effect Jupiter has on Io is a great example.

I understand the attraction of mysticism. I meditate on winning the half billion dollar lottery.

I think you can guess how that's gone.


GD auto-correct. Android blows.  >:(
Title: mandela - the thinker
Post by: Cyanhide on May 17, 2017, 08:14:42 AM
Here is a recent one I came across, I would explain, but I think it's pretty obvious.
can someone explain this?
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRDPrExS2OuY_pMoZlylR1hlDDWB9U7ydQYNj0301nd4n6nC98N)
(https://s11.postimg.org/3nxpnlgab/girlposingasrodin.jpg)
(https://s11.postimg.org/48cqqa9ir/rodinpose2.jpg)
(https://s15.postimg.org/5xorsizd7/bodybuilderpose.jpg)
(https://s15.postimg.org/m6502087f/254384_Male_bodybuilder_posing_Stock_Photo.jpg)

2 more fun ones,

I remember that Hitler had brown eyes. They always told me on school " yeah that's the Irony of hitler, his Arien Race was everything he was not.
Pure, blond hair and blue eyes"
http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/rare-color-photo-adolf-hitler-shows-true-eye-color-date-unknown/

And more, what do you remember about Napoleon? I'm pretty convinced he was famous for being SHORT.
Well apparently he was tall for a french.
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/03/napolean-bonaparte-having-been-short-is-a-myth/

ha effing lol, when looking around the web for Mandela, I hear a song I have never heard of before " freee Nelson Mandela"
Synchronicity at best.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Cyanhide on May 17, 2017, 08:26:37 AM
Someone posted here somehow CERN was connected.

Look at this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0Lt9yUf-VY
go to 2:35 mark.
the guy is wearing 2 signs " Bond 1" and "Mandela "

I kid you not.
(https://s31.postimg.org/5236o556j/mb_585x300.png)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on May 17, 2017, 08:59:18 AM
I don't know how I can take these people seriously. Scientists used to have a gravitas that is missing in the latest generation.

What they're doing isn't a joke. They're working with an incredibly dangerous machine.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Cyanhide on May 17, 2017, 11:44:44 AM
Thank you Simon

That is awesome! Yes that is what 'we' remember  Thank you for providing that clip. This is exactly what i was looking for in this thread  some hard evidence

:D  Saving this and will add it to the web page tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkClRSNF6G0

I'm pretty sure I remember this as well. man reading these threads is seriously making me question my own existence lol.
Title: Re: mandela - the thinker
Post by: ArMaP on May 17, 2017, 11:54:37 AM
Here is a recent one I came across, I would explain, but I think it's pretty obvious.
can someone explain this?
Explain what? Could you be more specific?

Quote
I remember that Hitler had brown eyes. They always told me on school " yeah that's the Irony of hitler, his Arien Race was everything he was not.
Pure, blond hair and blue eyes"
I remember Hitler having brown hair and blue eyes.

Quote
And more, what do you remember about Napoleon? I'm pretty convinced he was famous for being SHORT.
They already had fake news then. :)

Quote
ha effing lol, when looking around the web for Mandela, I hear a song I have never heard of before " freee Nelson Mandela"
I know that song, it played a lot on the radio when it came out somewhere in the 1980s.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Cyanhide on May 17, 2017, 12:00:39 PM
One more, so i'v been thinking.

Let's say - some of us came from plane A. We are now in plane B. 
Okay, so did we wake up in a utopia? nope, the world is still burning.

Did tptb shift with us? seeing this place is clearly the same if not worse than plane A.
What does that tell us of the system?  Does that make us bad guys? Rats on an ark, stowaways on a ship that wasn't meant for us?
Does the shift a more "biological" approach, meaning it doesn't discriminate. some of us have it, others don't. Doesn't matter who you are.
So does that mean it's more a like a forced shift?  I remember reading a long time ago  ( here I think ) we have a certain frequency ) 

Maybe our frequency has been altered and we are merging with our other self.

Either way, for some reason this all makes me feel quite depressed. Because if we where the "chosen ones " wth did we end up?


The only thing I can think of, it was the butler.
Sorry for the rambling and probably spelling mistakes lol.


Also, what happened in 2008? well we had the financial crisis.
Title: Re: mandela - the thinker
Post by: Cyanhide on May 17, 2017, 12:03:25 PM
Explain what? Could you be more specific?
I remember Hitler having brown hair and blue eyes.
They already had fake news then. :)
I know that song, it played a lot on the radio when it came out somewhere in the 1980s.


I remember ( I think ) the Thinker keeping his fist on his head( like how everyone is doing it, apart from the  obvious... the statue itself )
For some reason all those people mimicking the statue, ended up doing something completely different. 

Haha i'm not questioning it's existence, i just found it "typical" hearing the song for the first time when researching Mandela.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on May 17, 2017, 12:12:32 PM
One more, so i'v been thinking.

Let's say - some of us came from plane A. We are now in plane B. 
Okay, so did we wake up in a utopia? nope, the world is still burning.

Did tptb shift with us? seeing this place is clearly the same if not worse than plane A.
What does that tell us of the system?  Does that make us bad guys? Rats on an ark, stowaways on a ship that wasn't meant for us?
Does the shift a more "biological" approach, meaning it doesn't discriminate. some of us have it, others don't. Doesn't matter who you are.
So does that mean it's more a like a forced shift?  I remember reading a long time ago  ( here I think ) we have a certain frequency ) 

Maybe our frequency has been altered and we are merging with our other self.

Either way, for some reason this all makes me feel quite depressed. Because if we where the "chosen ones " wth did we end up?


The only thing I can think of, it was the butler.
Sorry for the rambling and probably spelling mistakes lol.


Also, what happened in 2008? well we had the financial crisis.
As I stated earlier in this thread, we do seem to travel in soul groups; and the theory has been around for years among the new agers and the "light workers", amongst others, that we volunteer to come here to this plane of existence; not to experience a utopia, but to experience all things whilst helping where we can...

it's up to you to choose which path to follow; i myself prefer the purple blue light saber over the dark red ones...

As for 2008, yes, that was the beginnings of the financial follies, plus Obamamama, Deepwater Horizon, plus a few more odds and ends...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: mandela - the thinker
Post by: The Seeker on May 17, 2017, 12:19:43 PM
The classic "thinker" pose is a man sitting in deep thought with his hand under his chin, not pressed to his fore head...

search around for pictures of Adolph Hitler; I believe you will find he had black hair and brown eyes; the antithesis of his Aryan master race...

Seeker
Title: Re: mandela - the thinker
Post by: Cyanhide on May 17, 2017, 12:32:03 PM
The classic "thinker" pose is a man sitting in deep thought with his hand under his chin, not pressed to his fore head...

search around for pictures of Adolph Hitler; I believe you will find he had black hair and brown eyes; the antithesis of his Aryan master race...

Seeker

That's just it, why would all of those people do the exact opposite?
Also, https://carolynyeager.net/how-many-times-does-it-have-be-said-hitler-didnt-have-dark-hair
apparently Hitler in this time line doesn't have black har and brown eyes.

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Cyanhide on May 17, 2017, 12:35:08 PM

 8)

Seeker

Also frigupshima.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on May 17, 2017, 12:42:17 PM
Also frigupshima.
Fukushima went down in 2011; and then we were subjected to their mascot, Fukuppy...
Title: Re: mandela - the thinker
Post by: The Seeker on May 17, 2017, 12:47:46 PM
That's just it, why would all of those people do the exact opposite?
Also, https://carolynyeager.net/how-many-times-does-it-have-be-said-hitler-didnt-have-dark-hair
apparently Hitler in this time line doesn't have black har and brown eyes.
I won't post photos of Hitler, go look here

http://www.vintag.es/2015/03/50-rare-photos-of-adolf-hitler-you.html (http://www.vintag.es/2015/03/50-rare-photos-of-adolf-hitler-you.html)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Cyanhide on May 17, 2017, 12:50:20 PM
Fukushima went down in 2011; and then we were subjected to their mascot, Fukuppy...

I was looking at events since 2008, well Obama might have been the anti-Christ after all lol.
Now for me the weird part is, I have all these memories of when I was a kid, and of course memories of the now. But in the center its a huge blur.
I remember 2008 by Obama, but I really have no clue how I spent my years. Wish I could explain better.
Title: Re: mandela - the thinker
Post by: Cyanhide on May 17, 2017, 12:59:31 PM
I won't post photos of Hitler, go look here

http://www.vintag.es/2015/03/50-rare-photos-of-adolf-hitler-you.html (http://www.vintag.es/2015/03/50-rare-photos-of-adolf-hitler-you.html)

I'm not arguing you, i'm just saying. officially the internet says hitler had blue eyes.
https://www.quora.com/What-colour-eyes-did-Adolf-Hitler-have

All i'm finding are websites saying he had blue eyes, which I don't remember. hehe.
Title: Re: mandela - the thinker
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on May 17, 2017, 01:58:39 PM
As far as the 'Thinker' goes,  those pictures prove that people are too stupid to get it right! Especially when it's right in front of them!
Title: Re: mandela - the thinker
Post by: zorgon on May 17, 2017, 03:23:55 PM
As far as the 'Thinker' goes,  those pictures prove that people are too stupid to get it right! Especially when it's right in front of them!

Well in MY original timeline the Thinker had his hand under CHIN  What is being shown is sometimes called the ATLAS pose by body builders

(http://pre13.deviantart.net/8013/th/pre/f/2012/091/1/c/1cdc992406b414e0de4fad38f9ffa12d-d4unnra.jpg)


Hitler had BLACK HAIR and BROWN EYES  His mother was JEWISH...

NAPOLEAN was SHORT  ( now he was 5' 6")  The really odd thing about this is that wikipedia still has THIS article

Napoleon complex

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"Napoleon complex" is a theorized condition occurring in people of short stature. It is characterized by overly-aggressive or domineering social behavior, and carries the implication that such behaviour is compensatory for the subject's stature. The term is also used more generally to describe people who are driven by a perceived handicap to overcompensate in other aspects of their lives. Other names for the purported condition include Napoleonic complex, Napoleon syndrome, and Short Man syndrome.

The Napoleon complex is named after Emperor Napoleon I of France. The conventional wisdom is that Napoleon compensated for his lack of height by seeking power, war, and conquest. Though he was long reported to have stood at only 5 feet 2 inches (1.57 m), historians have now suggested Napoleon was actually 5 feet 6 inches (1.68 m) tall, taller than the average Frenchman of his time.[citation needed] Napoleon was often seen with his Imperial Guard, which contributed to the perception of his being short because the Imperial Guards were of above average height.

In psychology, the Napoleon complex is regarded as a derogatory social stereotype.

So yeah he was SHORT :P

Title: Re: mandela - the thinker
Post by: Cyanhide on May 17, 2017, 03:37:03 PM
Well in MY original timeline the Thinker had his hand under CHIN  What is being shown is sometimes called the ATLAS pose by body builders

(http://pre13.deviantart.net/8013/th/pre/f/2012/091/1/c/1cdc992406b414e0de4fad38f9ffa12d-d4unnra.jpg)


Hitler had BLACK HAIR and BROWN EYES  His mother was JEWISH...

NAPOLEAN was SHORT  ( now he was 5' 6")  The really odd thing about this is that wikipedia still has THIS article

Napoleon complex

So yeah he was SHORT :P

Agreed on all, ( I can see the confusion with the Thinker ) however it seems the internet doesn't really agree anymore.
so either we are all mistaken ( especially the hitler one ) or...
Title: Re: mandela - the thinker
Post by: ArMaP on May 17, 2017, 03:39:43 PM
As far as the 'Thinker' goes,  those pictures prove that people are too stupid to get it right! Especially when it's right in front of them!
It shows that they are not thinkers. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on May 17, 2017, 03:41:31 PM
Now then  here is another one that has traces...

This one is a good one...

Sinbad as a Genie – In a Movie called Shazaam

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This topic was first raised in August 2015, around the time that the Berenstein/Berenstain topic surged in popularity. So, it may have become lost in the Bears discussions.

David S. was the one who mentioned it. He said, “I’ve noticed weird examples of this for years. E.g. a movie with Sinbad where he plays a genie but the closest thing would be Kazaam with Shaq.”

David S. was correct, in a 2014 Q&A Interviewly.com session, here’s what Sinbad said:

    Sinbad, there is a large rumor/conspiracy going around that you played a genie in a movie in the 90’s similar to Shaq in Kazaam. Can you confirm or deny the existence of this supposed film? Thanks for the AMA!

    it was SHAQ SHAQ SHAQ
    but we all look alike

Several people replied to David’s comment, and I’ve moved their comments to this post, focusing specifically on the Sinbad movie.

Also, DbD had asked whether or not this Sinbad/Genie movie appeared (and then vanished) around the same time as the Looney Tunes/Toons change. It’s a good question.

Since I saw the movie in search results — and images from the movie, as well — when David S. commented (August 2015), I’m not sure the timing matches. If anyone else has both memories and can give a time frame, that could be useful.

Sinbad looks like a genie. To me, it’s not just the missing movie that’s odd… it’s that, in this reality, no one cast him as a genie, ever. It’s hard to imagine Hollywood not making good use of obvious casting and easy marketing.

UPDATE: This seems to be the same alternate memory being discussed in December 2016 as “Shazaam.” http://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/internet/2016/12/movie-doesn-t-exist-and-redditors-who-think-it-does

http://mandelaeffect.com/sinbad-as-a-genie/

Now SNOPES naturally says FAKE :P (no surprize there)

Did Sinbad Play a Genie in the 1990s Movie 'Shazaam'?
Although many people claim to clearly recall comedian Sinbad's playing a genie in a movie called "Shazaam," those memories appear to be yet another example of the "Mandela Effect."
http://www.snopes.com/sinbad-movie-shazaam/


(http://static.snopes.com/app/uploads/2016/12/sinbad-vhs-768x768.jpg)

Then we have THIS

Shazam / Shazaam with Sinbad was real and here is all the Movie Information

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First of all, lets get this straight. I am not mistaking it for "Kazaam" with Shaq O'neal. I am not mistaking it with Sinbad the Sailor. I am not mistaking it with Sinbad's segment in All That. I am not mistaking it for the way Sinbad dressed in the 90's. I am not mistaking it for the Hannah Barabara "Shazzan"

NO, THESE ARE NOT THE VHS COVERS:

http://imgur.com/gallery/W8Qty http://imgur.com/4yoZpd1

Okay. Deep Breath.

Here are the facts:

Release Date: Early 1994 Disappearance Date: Early 2000's

Shazam was played on Disney Channel a lot. At first it was movie and then later became a short-lived series. It really hurt Sinbad's career.

Movie Actors: Sinbad, Jonathan Brandis

Johnathan Brandis was in the movie, but not the series. Possibly Danny Pintauro, Brian Bonsall, or Johnathan Taylor Thomas could have replaced him.

The movie's characters are a brother and sister with a father who doesn't give them enough attention.

VHS COVER: Sinbad has his arms crossed and his eyebrow raised. The cover says "SINBAD" is bigger letters than "Shazam."

Sinbad is wearing a genie outfit consisting of a golden turban, golden pointy shoes, vest, big hoop earring and puffy pants. It is all purple and gold.

Scenes: -There is a huge ship in the middle of the desert -Sinbad is in his lamp watching the Sinbad's actual comedy show -The little girl wastes a wish on fixing her broken doll -The climax is a scene with a swimming pool

I only wrote stuff that multiple people from various sources remember.

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DonnaGail 14 points 3 months ago

I am 48 years old. I vaguely remember this movie (but not the title). I remember Sinbad as a genie with his arms crossed on the advertisements for it. I never saw the movie though.

My husband is 63. I asked him if he remembered Sinbad playing a genie in a 90s movie. He immediately answered, "Yes. It was Shazaam."

I later asked my 19 year old son. He knows who Sinbad is because he used to watch Jingle all the Way when he was younger. I asked him the same question as I asked my husband. Before answering, he thought a minute then answered, "Yeah, I think the title was Shazaam. But I never saw it."

Okay, I then asked someone I know who is around 27 years old. He remembers it too. He saw it! He said there is a scene where someone wishes for a mountain of gumballs or something like that.

4 People I know (so far) that remember this movie!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Shazaam/comments/5m8o02/shazam_shazaam_with_sinbad_was_real_and_here_is/

One more point...

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spydiddley404 6 points 4 months ago

I find this mystery really interesting. The lack of concrete evidence really makes me think this is just a common false memory, but the sincere conviction of so many people really makes me wonder if it is real.

I was thinking, don't libraries keep hard copies of old newspapers archived? Or at least have the original editions stored on microfiche? Would it be possible to look through the entertainment/variety sections of newspapers from the early 90's and find evidence of this movie's original promotional campaign?

If that can't be found, how could its absence be explained while still preserving the existence of the movie? Surely scrubbing old newspapers is not feasible for something that's ultimately so inconsequential. Even if the movie never got a theatrical release and so was very sparsely promoted, wouldn't there be TV schedule listings in those newspapers that could at least show the title as having aired at certain times?

I think this may be the most likely route for some concrete indication one way or the other. Has anyone who firmly "remembers" this movie tried looking into old newspapers?

This is the big issue... and why people are calling others crazy

IF these memories are indeed real to those from timeline A who have been somehow inserted into the current timeline B, then it only follows that since the event DID NOT HAPPEN in timeline B there would be no record of it at all  and the B time liners would assume the A time liners are crazy or having false memories

HOWEVER  it seems that there are bits and pieces of recorded evidence that ARE 'getting through' Like Mcjers JC Penny photo in his album and the Disney logo with Tinkerbell dotting the eye that is on the Game Show tape...

And then there is THIS :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD0rchvuoMU
Title: Re: mandela - the thinker
Post by: zorgon on May 17, 2017, 03:49:06 PM
Agreed on all, ( I can see the confusion with the Thinker ) however it seems the internet doesn't really agree anymore.

Unfortunately for serious research... the internet is full of B time liners that are desperate to prove that A time liners are crazy... BECAUSE if they had to accept that we really are from a different time line it would really mess with their realty.

So attempting to discuss this issue with those who have NOT experienced the flip, is like banging your head on the wall

So we will see the same faked crap that has infested the UFOlogy filed  where it has gotten so bad I stopped even looking at UFO reports as 99% are fake crap

Same is happening with the Mandella Effect...  Fortunately there are at least some serious scientific groups still investigating it


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so either we are all mistaken ( especially the hitler one ) or...

My father served under Hitler... there is no mistake on my part.  One day he made a joke about Adolf in the army ranks... an officer over heard it and he was sent to the front.  While there a friend saw a sniper flash, pushed my dad to the ground... took the bullet in his hand.  Had he not I would not be here today telling you Hitlers hair color :P
Title: Re: mandela - the thinker
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on May 17, 2017, 03:51:28 PM
It shows that they are not thinkers. :)

Daaammmnnn,,,,Hey ArMaP made a joke!!!!!!! ;) ;D
Title: Re: mandela - the thinker
Post by: ArMaP on May 17, 2017, 03:53:34 PM
Hitler had BLACK HAIR and BROWN EYES  His mother was JEWISH...
Jews can have blue eyes.

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NAPOLEAN was SHORT  ( now he was 5' 6")  The really odd thing about this is that wikipedia still has THIS article

Napoleon complex

So yeah he was SHORT :P
I'm also 5' 6", so yes, he was short. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on May 17, 2017, 04:13:37 PM
And then there is THIS :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD0rchvuoMU
I noticed a Berenstain Bears book on the ground and found it suspicious, and found this:
Sinbad created a fake version of that ’90s genie movie people always think he was in (http://www.avclub.com/article/sinbad-created-fake-version-90s-genie-movie-people-253083)

I don't have any idea if this is true or not, as I never heard about him or the movie/series, but the video does look suspicious, with all those references to the Mandela Effect.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: dreb13 on May 18, 2017, 05:40:28 AM

I don't have any idea if this is true or not, as I never heard about him or the movie/series, but the video does look suspicious, with all those references to the Mandela Effect.


C'mon Armap, you're better than this.  Did you even bother to read any of the comments for the Youtube video or see who uploaded it, and more importantly, the day that it was  uploaded?

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on May 18, 2017, 06:08:39 AM
Did you even bother to read any of the comments for the Youtube video or see who uploaded it, and more importantly, the day that it was  uploaded?
I watched the video embedded here, so I didn't see any of that.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on May 18, 2017, 07:49:56 AM
I noticed a Berenstain Bears book on the ground and found it suspicious, and found this:
Sinbad created a fake version of that ’90s genie movie people always think he was in (http://www.avclub.com/article/sinbad-created-fake-version-90s-genie-movie-people-253083)

I don't have any idea if this is true or not, as I never heard about him or the movie/series, but the video does look suspicious, with all those references to the Mandela Effect.

Also there is a monopoly game board (without monocle), and a newpaper that says Nelson Mandela Dead.

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on May 26, 2017, 12:33:36 PM
J H C . . .  :o :o :o

Last July I moved into my current home. I brought with me a shredder that processed my shredded material into small diamond shapes. I haven't needed it until today.

This afternoon I finally decided to shred some stuff. IT'S SHREDDING MY PAPERS INTO THIN STRIPS INSTEAD OF DIAMONDS!

I, literally, became short of breath, and still am as I post.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on May 26, 2017, 01:05:49 PM
IT'S SHREDDING MY PAPERS INTO THIN STRIPS INSTEAD OF DIAMONDS!
I never used a shredder in my life, but is it possible that your shredder is only half working, making only the longitudinal cuts and not cutting the strips in smaller pieces?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on May 26, 2017, 01:09:10 PM
I never used a shredder in my life, but is it possible that your shredder is only half working, making only the longitudinal cuts and not cutting the strips in smaller pieces?

ArMaP, don't make me slap you.  ::)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on May 26, 2017, 01:26:05 PM
ArMaP, don't make me slap you.  ::)
Remember that neither I or anyone else can make you do anything, only you have that power. :)

PS: could you just answer my question? It was a honest question from someone that doesn't know a paper shredder works.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on May 26, 2017, 01:49:23 PM
Remember that neither I or anyone else can make you do anything, only you have that power. :)

PS: could you just answer my question? It was a honest question from someone that doesn't know a paper shredder works.

No. It only shreds in diamonds. Well it did before I moved.  ::)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on May 26, 2017, 02:10:46 PM
No. It only shreds in diamonds. Well it did before I moved.  ::)
I wasn't asking if it has two modes of cutting the paper. From what I have seen, those "diamonds" are created by cutting the paper in strips and then cutting those strips diagonally, so it needs two working sets of blades to make the two types of cuts, and theoretically, if the second set is not working it will work as common strip shredder.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on May 26, 2017, 02:49:49 PM
I wasn't asking if it has two modes of cutting the paper. From what I have seen, those "diamonds" are created by cutting the paper in strips and then cutting those strips diagonally, so it needs two working sets of blades to make the two types of cuts, and theoretically, if the second set is not working it will work as common strip shredder.

Someone please pass the Preparation H.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on May 26, 2017, 04:24:42 PM
Someone please pass the Preparation H.

Strange things happening on a more regular basis Irene.  I feel like I'm in and out of timelines all the time and hate it.  Where's my gun.  HUGS. xxoo
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on May 26, 2017, 05:11:28 PM
Strange things happening on a more regular basis Irene.
That's why I think we should be sure of which are strange things and which are not, so we don't waste time with common events.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on June 17, 2017, 08:54:59 PM

http://www.sciencealert.com/new-study-discovers-your-brain-actually-works-in-up-to-11-dimensions

The Human Brain Can Create Structures in Up to 11 Dimensions
"We found a world that we had never imagined."
SIGNE DEAN 13 JUN 2017
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on June 18, 2017, 02:28:25 AM
That's why I think we should be sure of which are strange things and which are not, so we don't waste time with common events.


Hmmmm okay...

Burning Man Festival... Death Valley

Burning Man festival is an annual event held on a dry lake bed.  In Death Valley... Last year I sold 120 yards of red fabric to a Las Vegas fireman who needed it for a tent at the festival/  I never went, because it was too damn HOT in the Death Valley desert at the end of August...

It is a crazy event on naked modern hippies, steam punk and ravers  Week long event extreme survival thing...

Well that WAS my reality a year ago...

Today I had occasion to discuss it with someone and I said I would love to go but the heat in Death Valley would kill me  :P


At which point I was told "What are you talking about? Burning Man is held in Black Rock Desert in northern Nevada and it gets cold there  70-80 in the day and freezing at night"

WTF?  No way...

So I go look it up online...   well in THIS timeline it IS in Black Rock Desert

Now strange thing is... if you google Burning man Death Valley you will find many hits

Now does ANYONE else remember this event being in Death Valley?


It is a crazy event  would love to go but its 450.00 each admission plus all the equipment and food etc  as there are no stores :P

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5Ze1duv8iqE/maxresdefault.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eZZhOvr6t6w/V8mfHsQxcGI/AAAAAAAAMEg/CEUKFK0BLRgqu-1gSuTTmEihKaAe4xe7QCLcB/s320/burning-man-festival-always-insane.gif)

(http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/56193a54dd0895e4708b4586/the-15-most-insane-art-cars-at-burning-man.jpg)

(http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/08/BurningUFO-800x425.jpg)

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--HRWh3NeT--/c_fill,fl_progressive,g_center,h_900,q_80,w_1600/rdcx4a3l7qvatbcotdjg.jpg)

(http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/5227b3aa6bb3f7017e316149-1200-924/img_1520.jpg)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on June 18, 2017, 02:29:25 AM
The Human Brain Can Create Structures in Up to 11 Dimensions
"We found a world that we had never imagined."
SIGNE DEAN 13 JUN 2017

Now THAT is fascinating   :o

The Blue Brain Project - A Swiss Brain Initiative

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In brief

The goal of the Blue Brain Project is to build biologically detailed digital reconstructions and simulations of the rodent, and ultimately the human brain.

The supercomputer-based reconstructions and simulations built by the project offer a radically new approach for understanding the multilevel structure and function of the brain.

The project's novel research strategy exploits interdependencies in the experimental data to obtain dense maps of the brain, without measuring every detail of its multiple levels of organization (molecules, cells, micro-circuits, brain regions, the whole brain).

This strategy allows the project to build digital reconstructions (computer models) of the brain at an unprecedented level of biological detail.

Supercomputer-based simulation of their behavior turns understanding the brain into a tractable problem, providing a new tool to study the complex interactions within different levels of brain organization and to investigate the cross-level links leading from genes to cognition.



Original Research ARTICLE
Front. Comput. Neurosci., 12 June 2017 | https://doi.org/10.3389/fncom.2017.00048

http://bluebrain.epfl.ch/page-56882-en.html
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on June 18, 2017, 03:37:13 AM
 I remember discussion on here about the Burning Man festival; I also have memory of a fellow named Robert Lazar being involved in it heavily years ago, with posted pics here on the forum and possibly the living moon.

edit to add: I seem to have my wires crossed; I found the articles on Desert Blast which was Bob Lazar and Gene Huff, but I could have sworn Bob was also involved in Burning Man and that it was in Death Valley; Desert Blast was in Nevada...
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on June 18, 2017, 06:10:53 AM
Now does ANYONE else remember this event being in Death Valley?
I don't remember where it takes place, but I do remember that it was not Death Valley.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on June 18, 2017, 10:52:55 AM


can't believe you people still don't know how to look stuff up ~just type in what you want to know about and pick one or more... i started to seperate them but


Burning Man - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Man
One of the roots of the annual event now known as Burning Man began as a bonfire ritual on the summer solstice in 1986 when Larry Harvey, Jerry James, and a few friends met on Baker Beach in San Francisco and burned a 9-foot (2.7-meter) wooden man as well as a smaller wooden dog.
‎Black Rock Desert · ‎Leave No Trace · ‎Larry Harvey · ‎Decommodification


Timeline | Burning Man
https://burningman.org/timeline/
In 1986 the first Man burns on a San Francisco Beach. Larry Harvey and his friend Jerry James knock together an improvised wooden figure and drag it down to Baker beach on the Summer Solstice. They light it up, and a curious crowd gathers to watch it burn. And so it began.


The First Year in the Desert | Burning Man
burningman.org/culture/history/brc-history/event-archives/1986-1991/firstyears/
by Louis M. Brill. The celebration of Burning Man's annual fire ceremony began in 1986, created by Larry Harvey and Jerry James. For the next four years, ...



First-Timer's Guide | Burning Man
https://burningman.org/event/preparation/first-timers-guide/
Burning Man is not a festival. Burning Man is a community. A temporary city. A global cultural movement based on 10 practical principles. We don't book acts or ...
Burning Man
https://burningman.org/

Burning Man Logo ... Explore the rich history from the ... The United States now has a whole week-long festival celebrating people who take it upon themselves ...

Census Archive | Burning Man
https://burningman.org/culture/history/brc-history/census-data/

Black Rock City History · Ticket Archive · Theme Camp Archive · Black Rock City Map Archive · Annual Event Archives · AfterBurn Reports · MOOP Map Archive ...

A Brief History of Who Ruined Burning Man | Burning Man Journal
https://journal.burningman.org/2016/.../a-brief-history-of-who-ruined-burning-man/
Oct 6, 2016 - In 1986, at the very first Burn, a crowd of complete strangers gathered around the Man once it was lit it on fire. Nobody had invited them.
burning man: a brief history of the desert festival and black rock city
www.designboom.com/.../burning-man-a-brief-history-of-the-desert-festival-and-blac...
Oct 11, 2011 - the history behind the burning man festival in nevada, USA.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on June 18, 2017, 11:04:56 AM
can't believe you people still don't know how to look stuff up ~just type in what you want to know about and pick one or more... i started to seperate them but
They know how to look up stuff, they just don't like what they see, as it doesn't agree with their memories. :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on June 18, 2017, 12:09:45 PM
They know how to look up stuff, they just don't like what they see, as it doesn't agree with their memories. :P

True, because it definitely doesn't fit with my memory most of the time, spins me out so I try not to think it about cuz I have enough to think about atm.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on June 18, 2017, 12:22:51 PM

can't believe you people still don't know how to look stuff up ~just type in what you want to know about and pick one or more... i started to seperate them but

Well the problem with "looking it up" is that when you look it up you are getting the results from THIS timeline and not from the timeline that many of us remember.

IF the reality for many people has changed then no amount of looking things up in THIS timeline is going to solve anything.  People who have not experienced the change  will just keep trying to say we are crazy and "go look it up"

I find it difficult to understand why this is so hard to understand

So far we have already found a photo in a member's album that has the JC Penny spelling and we have the Disney with Tinkerbell dotting the I in a game show video background  so SOME trace of our reality has survived... which in itself is a very IMPORTANT factor

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on June 18, 2017, 01:02:26 PM
ANd somne of us are working with limited time to do things; it's called trying to survive.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on June 18, 2017, 02:28:43 PM
So far we have already found a photo in a member's album that has the JC Penny spelling and we have the Disney with Tinkerbell dotting the I in a game show video background  so SOME trace of our reality has survived... which in itself is a very IMPORTANT factor
This video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNwPmzTsCY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNwPmzTsCY)

She isn't dotting the "I".
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on June 18, 2017, 03:22:34 PM
This video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNwPmzTsCY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNwPmzTsCY)

She isn't dotting the "I".

I will tell you one thing that is burned into my memory.

When I was a kid we used to watch Disney on Sunday nights and Tinker Bell Always dotted something with her wand.  :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on June 18, 2017, 05:52:41 PM


ANd somne of us are working with limited time to do things; it's called trying to survive.



Seeker
WE ARE ALL TRYING TO SURVIVE..

Seeker thur many years and many posts and pm conversations I felt that I have been privileged to call you friend.
I feel deeply for your hardships at this time but I know you will survive because that’s just who you are
but even though we do not have the same hardships at the same time doesn’t mean any of us have it easy
some of us speak of our lives to share and some of us don’t..it’s all good..but we are all trying to survive as best as we can
I wish for you all that you would wish for yourself..may you be blessed with all you need or want
big hugs
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on June 18, 2017, 05:55:47 PM
Well said Otter,  ;) :-*  me to Seeker. xxoo
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on June 18, 2017, 06:32:52 PM
I haz coined a new phrase...


Timeline Deniers :P


 :o

 ::)

 8)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on June 18, 2017, 06:45:05 PM
I haz coined a new phrase...


Timeline Deniers :P


 :o

 ::)

 8)



 ;)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on June 18, 2017, 06:47:36 PM

ANd somne of us are working with limited time to do things; it's called trying to survive.



Seeker
WE ARE ALL TRYING TO SURVIVE..

Seeker thur many years and many posts and pm conversations I felt that I have been privileged to call you friend.
I feel deeply for your hardships at this time but I know you will survive because that’s just who you are
but even though we do not have the same hardships at the same time doesn’t mean any of us have it easy
some of us speak of our lives to share and some of us don’t..it’s all good..but we are all trying to survive as best as we can
I wish for you all that you would wish for yourself..may you be blessed with all you need or want
big hugs
All well and true, Otter; I do appreciate the fact that all (or at least the greater majority of us) are having a go of it these past few years...most of us aren't slackers or quitters, or we wouldn't still be here

we just have to keep pushing forward as best we can, one day at a time  8) it may take longer now to do what used to be a breeze, and a lot of things may have to be done by others now, but irregardless we will get it done...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on June 19, 2017, 01:19:51 AM
I haz coined a new phrase...


Timeline Deniers :P
There's no need to deny something that hasn't been proved as existing. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on June 19, 2017, 02:49:55 AM
There's no need to deny something that hasn't been proved as existing. :)

Parallel universes do exist, and scientists have the proof…

(https://cdn.powerofpositivity.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/parallel-universe-16-9.jpg)

God and quantum physics - Xavier Xavier du pont quebec

https://www.powerofpositivity.com/parallel-universes-exist-scientists-proof/

'Parallel universes DO exist': Multiple versions of us are living in alternate worlds that interact with each other, theory claims

    The parallel worlds constantly influence one another, researchers claim
    This is because, instead of a collapse in which quantum particles 'choose' to occupy one state or another, they in fact occupy both, simultaneously
    The theory could resolve some of the irregularities in quantum mechanics
    It states some worlds are almost identical to ours, but most are different
    Theory may even create possibility of one day testing for these worlds

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2816039/Parallel-universes-exist-Multiple-versions-living-alternate-worlds-interact-theory-claims.html
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on June 19, 2017, 06:01:19 AM

so now i can blame all my mis-takes on the other me living in tandem
with this me but in another dimension.....cool

bwhahahahahahahahah

but i sure wish that other me would tell me
 where certain things are that i can't find..
or
maybe pay some of the bills
or
make my dinner now and then

and there are no  timeline deniers
just
timeline non-experiencers
or
timeline non-recognisers

the other deminsion thing is like religion..
you need to believe before you see stuff


had to come back to add another thought

unless the dimension thing bites you in the butt and scares the you-know-what outta you
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on June 19, 2017, 09:03:51 AM
I just had an errant thought. Perhaps déjà vu is when universes briefly merge because there is an identical occurrence in both universe at the same time.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on June 26, 2017, 04:33:04 PM
If this needs moving admins, please do.  I did try to find the right thread.

I watch this guy now and again re: the Mandela effect and I have found them interesting.  He has a thick English accent, I'm pretty sure he has a Ph.d. but lays things out in a down to earth way.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkgtRNPtkxA
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on June 29, 2017, 02:08:17 AM
Quantuum Entanglement and String Theory

WHY are the Time Lines crossing?


GOD  is a CAT

(http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/what-is-string-theory-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on June 29, 2017, 02:37:19 AM
so now i can blame all my mis-takes on the other me living in tandem
with this me but in another dimension.....cool

Well I remember the other you :P

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but i sure wish that other me would tell me
 where certain things are that i can't find..

look back in this thread  There was another lady figured out how to do that


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and there are no  timeline deniers
just
timeline non-experiencers
or
timeline non-recognisers

Except ArMap :P he is a denier :P  But i like that "timeline non-experiencers"  And they don't have a Pony in the Race


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unless the dimension thing bites you in the butt and scares the you-know-what outta you

Yes THAT.  It's only a Religion if you Worship it :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on June 29, 2017, 04:32:50 AM
Except ArMap :P he is a denier :P
It's just an idea, not even a theory, so there's nothing to deny. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on June 29, 2017, 07:31:36 AM

Quantuum Entanglement and String Theory

WHY are the Time Lines crossing?


GOD  is a CAT

(http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/what-is-string-theory-1.jpg)



jumping up and down here..we have an answer..give that man a prize

i remember the other you also
as for the other me.. i wish i knew where she went cause i want to go too
SIGH
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on July 10, 2017, 04:22:07 AM
Looks like Scientists are getting with it :P

This Quantum Theory Predicts That The Future Might Be Influencing The Past

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This Quantum Theory Predicts That The Future Might Be Influencing The Past

No, seriously.
MIKE MCRAE

One of the weirder aspects of quantum mechanics could be explained by an equally weird idea – that causation can run backwards in time as well as forwards.

What Einstein called "spooky" action at a distance could theoretically be evidence of retrocausality, which is the particle equivalent of you getting a stomach ache today thanks to tomorrow's bad lunch.

A pair of physicists from the US and Canada took a closer look at some basic assumptions in quantum theory and decided unless we discovered time necessarily ran one way, measurements made to a particle could echo back in time as well as forward.

We all know quantum mechanics is weird. And part of that weirdness comes down to the fact that at a fundamental level, particles don't act like solid billiard balls rolling down a table, but rather like a blurry cloud of possibilities shifting around the room.

This blurry cloud comes into sharp focus when we try to measure particles, meaning we can only ever see a white ball hitting a black one into the corner pocket, and never countless white balls hitting black balls into every pocket.

There is an argument among physicists over whether that cloud of maybes represents something real, or if it's just a convenient representation.

A physicist by the name of Huw Price claimed back in 2012 that if the strange probabilities behind quantum states reflect something real, and if nothing restricts time to one direction, the black ball in that cloud of maybes could theoretically roll out of the pocket and knock the white ball.

"Critics object that there is complete time-symmetry in classical physics, and yet no apparent retrocausality. Why should the quantum world be any different?" Price wrote, paraphrasing the thoughts of most physicists.

Matthew S. Leifer from Chapman University in California and Matthew F. Pusey from the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Ontario also wondered if the quantum world might be different when it comes to time.

The pair exchanged some of Price's assumptions and applied their new model to something called Bell's theorem, which is a big deal in this whole spooky action at a distance business.

John Stewart Bell said that the weird things that happen in quantum mechanics can't ever be explained by actions taking place nearby. It's as if nothing is causing the multitude of billiard balls to take such varied paths. At a fundamental level, the Universe is random.

But what about actions taking place somewhere else... or somewhen else? Can something far away influence that cloud without touching it, in a way that Einstein called "spooky"?

If two particles are connected in space at some point, measuring a property of one of them instantly sets the value for the other, no matter where in the Universe it has moved to.

This 'entanglement' has been tested over and over again in light of Bell's theorem, plugging loopholes that might show they are really interacting on a local level in some way, in spite of what seems to be a distance.

As you might guess, the Universe still seems pretty spooky.

But if causality ran backwards, it would mean a particle could carry the action of its measurement back in time to when it was entangled, affecting its partner. No faster-than-light messages needed.

That's the hypothesis Leifer and Pusey were going by.

"There is a small group of physicists and philosophers that think this idea is worth pursuing," Leifer told Lisa Zyga at Phys.org.

By reformulating a few basic assumptions, the researchers developed a model based on Bell's theorem where space was swapped for time. By their reckoning, unless we can show why time must always tick forward, we run into some contradictions.

Needless to say, the idea of retrocausality is a fringe idea.

"There is not, to my knowledge, a generally agreed upon interpretation of quantum theory that recovers the whole theory and exploits this idea. It is more of an idea for an interpretation at the moment, so I think that other physicists are rightly sceptical, and the onus is on us to flesh out the idea."

Now keep in mind, this kind of backwards time travel isn't the sort that would allow you to go back in time and consciously change the present, sorry to say. Future scientists also won't be able to encode lottery numbers into entangled electrons and mail them back to their younger selves.

In any case, the idea of anything trickling backwards in time might not be an appealing one, but let's face it, when it comes to phenomena like entanglement, nearly any explanation is going to sound downright insane.

This research was published in Proceedings of The Royal Society A.

http://www.sciencealert.com/this-quantum-theory-predicts-the-future-might-influence-the-past
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on July 10, 2017, 05:39:36 AM
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Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on July 10, 2017, 06:18:45 AM
Looks like Scientists are getting with it :P

This Quantum Theory Predicts That The Future Might Be Influencing The Past

(http://www.sciencealert.com/images/articles/processed/time_reverse_1024.jpg)

http://www.sciencealert.com/this-quantum-theory-predicts-the-future-might-influence-the-past

That's interesting, I read something similar on a 1931 science-fiction magazine, Astounding Stories:

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TWO-WAY TIME
A new theory of time, which rejects the notion that yesterday preceded to-day in any absolute sense, reveals the possibility that events now occurring are among the factors that decided Caesar nearly 2,000 years ago to cross the Rubicon, and which questions the theory of the fourth dimension, was propounded recently by Dr. Gilbert N. Lewis, physicist, of the University of California.

The theory revolutionizes the hoary idea of cause and effect. It presents time as symmetrical, flowing in two directions. It pictures the present as not only "pushed into existence by the past" but also "pulled into existence by the future." It denies that the universe is running down to a lifeless and changeless end and poses the idea that the whole universe may sometime return exactly to its present condition.

Thus far, Dr. Lewis made it clear, he has found proof for his theory only in the field of physics. "But if one has the temerity to apply to the whole universe the laws that are now adopted in the little republic of physics," he said, "the entire conception of the sequence of time must be changed."

Outlining prohibitory laws in physics, such as the law against perpetual motion machines, upon which certain branches of the science have been built, he said:

"In this address I am going to discuss another such prohibition which has the widest implications in science and philosophy. This law states that in the domain of physical science one must never attempt to distinguish between past and future.

"It was the careful scrutiny of the meaning of time in physics that led to the principle of relativity, but in the work of Einstein and of Minkowski there remain a past and a future, and the picture of events jostled into a mysterious and passive future by an active past."

This concept of time moving only in one direction was introduced by Newton, yet in the Newtonian mechanics it has long been recognized that no more than a simple symmetrical time is needed, said Dr. Lewis.

"From existing astronomical data," he went on, "we may predict an eclipse 1,000 years hence, or calculate an eclipse of 1,000 years ago, both with equal accuracy. If we should construct a moving picture to represent the motions of the solar system, it would be just as satisfactory if it were run backwards, and the Newtonian laws would be equally well obeyed."

With this banishment of the idea of "one-way time," Dr. Lewis pointed out that the established idea that cause precedes effect must be abandoned. Cause and effect, he said, are not analogous to purpose and fulfillment but are part of a symmetrical pattern. Events are thus controlled not alone by the factors which come before but also by those which follow. If you decide to buy a new suit today, you will do so not simply because you noticed that your old one was shabby yesterday, but equally because you will want to wear it to-morrow."

For evidence to support his theory, Dr. Lewis said, while it is still the current view, some physicists have questioned the law of thermodynamics which implies that the universe is running down and will eventually become lifeless and changeless.

"Beginning with Williard Gibbs," he said, "there have been many who realized that just as a pack of cards, if indefinitely shuffled, will eventually return to its original arrangement so any physico-chemical system, when left to itself in any initial state, must return to that state."
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on July 10, 2017, 06:38:38 AM
 

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RE - WRITE

because so far the human brain has not accepted but one dimension at a 'time'
with understanding  the division of TIME disappears

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on July 10, 2017, 09:08:28 AM
Quote
TWO-WAY TIME
A new theory of time, which rejects the notion that yesterday preceded to-day in any absolute sense, reveals the possibility that events now occurring are among the factors that decided Caesar nearly 2,000 years ago to cross the Rubicon, and which questions the theory of the fourth dimension, was propounded recently by Dr. Gilbert N. Lewis, physicist, of the University of California.

The theory revolutionizes the hoary idea of cause and effect. It presents time as symmetrical, flowing in two directions. It pictures the present as not only "pushed into existence by the past" but also "pulled into existence by the future." It denies that the universe is running down to a lifeless and changeless end and poses the idea that the whole universe may sometime return exactly to its present condition.


So if this theory is true, the world cannot end anytime soon as  some may predict.  There were things happening in the world prior to Ceasar.  Also I wonder when was day 0?    hmmmmm
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on July 10, 2017, 10:13:31 AM

So if this theory is true, the world cannot end anytime soon as  some may predict.  There were things happening in the world prior to Ceasar.  Also I wonder when was day 0?    hmmmmm
Mic, if you look closely at what has been written in the past that some are always expounding upon, such as the Christian Rapture and the battle of Armegeddon, it doesn't say the world is going to end...

Jesus is supposed to return and kick the dark one out and then reign in peace for a thousand years...so what happens next?

Obviously the cycle must renew and start over...

But where in their scriptures does it discuss that?

 ::)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on July 10, 2017, 02:09:38 PM
The thing is that PROJECT LOOKING GLASS is a real project looking at light rays that travel backwards in time... using special mirrors

And the Alice Portal at Cerns is also a "Time Machine"

So both projects use the ALICE CODE

Quote from the book:

"I don't understand . . .' " said Alice. "It's dreadfully confusing!"
"That's the effect of living backwards," the Queen said kindly: "it always makes one a little giddy at first- ''
"Living backwards!" Alice repeated in great astonishment. "I never
heard of such a thing!"
-Lewis Carroll
 

Looking Glass Front page

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/04images/Machine/Looking_Glass.png)

Imagine a mirror that reflects more light than was incident, that reflects a beam into the same direction regardless of the mirror's tilt, that eliminates image distortions by causing light rays to retrace their paths as if running backward in time, and that when looked at allows the observer to see absolutely nothing.

Science fiction, you say? Well, such mirrors have been the subject of intense investigation both here at Los Alamos and at other research laboratories around the world. Not only do they exist, but their practical applications may be far-reaching.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/03files/Project_Looking_Glass_LANL.html#Project

Alice Portal Cern - ALICE Time Projection Chamber

Welcome to the ALICE TPC Page
TPC Overview

The Time Projection Chamber (TPC) is the main tracking detector in the central barrel of theALICE experiment at LHC. Its function is to provide track finding (efficiency larger than 90%), charged particle momentum measurement (resolution better than 2.5% for electrons with momentum of about 4 GeV/c), particle identification (dE/dx resolution better than 10%), and two-track separation (resolution in relative momentum below 5 MeV/c) in the region pt<10 GeV/c and pseudo-rapidity |h|<0.9.

The TPC is cylindrical in shape with an active gas volume that ranges from about 85 cm to 250 cm, in the radial direction, and has a length of 500 cm. along the beam direction. A high voltage (HV) electrode is located at its axial center, which will be aligned to the interaction point, dividing the gas volume in two symmetric drift regions of 250 cm length. The HV electrode, which consists of an aluminized stretched Mylar foil, and two opposite axial potential degraders create a highly uniform electrostatic field in the two drift regions. The potential of the drift region is defined by Mylar strips wound around 18 inner and outer support rods.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/04images/Machine/TPC_Layout.gif)
CERN Copyright 2005

Charged particles traversing the gas will leave behind the memory of their passage in the form of a long trace of ionized gas. Depending on the electrical charge and momentum of the particle the trace will be bent weaker or stronger in either direction. In addition the density of the ionization depends on the momentum and identity of the particle. The ionization trace moves at constant velocity to either of the two end plates. The end plates are equipped with wire planes and 560,000 electronics channels, detecting the fundamental properties of the ionization trace (3D image and ionization density). The requirements of good momentum resolution and high rate capability call for a drift gas with low diffusion, low Z and large ion mobility. Extensive investigation of different gas mixtures led originally to the choice of the mixture 90% Ne-10% CO2. More recently it was proposed to add 5% N 2 to the mixture, which turned out to provide, higher gas gain stability and a better control of the fraction of N2 and its influence on the drift velocity. Both gas mixtures, however, require a high drift field (400 V/cm) to secure an acceptable drift time (88ms and 92ms respectively). The field cage is surrounded by double-shelled containment vessels with CO2 as insulator. Composite materials based on carbon fibber were chosen for high mechanical stability and low material budget (only 3.5% of a radiation length for tracks with normal incidence).

The TPC end-plates are each segmented into 18 trapezoidal sectors and equipped with multi-wire proportional chambers with cathode pad readout covering an overall active area of 32.5 m2. The sectors are segmented radially in two chambers with varying pad sizes, optimized for the radial dependence of the track density. There are about 560 000 pads with 3 different sizes: 4 for the inner readout chambers (IROC), 6 x 10 and 6 x 15 mm2 for the outer chambers (OROC), with 159 pad rows radially. For a position resolution not limited by the signal-to-noise ratio, the gas gain has to be sufficiently large. For the chosen pad sizes and rather low dE/dx of the drift gas, a rather large gas gain of 2 104 is necessary at the design noise figure of 1000 e (rms) for the electronics.

The charge collected on the TPC pads is amplified and integrated by a low input impedance charge sensitive amplifier followed by a semi-Gaussian pulse shaper. These analogue functions are realised by a custom integrated circuit (PASA), implemented in a 0.35 mm CMOS technology, which incorporate 16 channels. The circuit has a conversion gain of 12mV/fC, an impulse response function with a peaking time of 150ns and an equivalent noise charge of about 600 e- . Immediately after the PASA, a 10-bit pipelined ADC (one per channel) samples the signal at a rate in the range 5 to 12 MHz. The digitised signal is then processed by a set of circuits that perform the baseline subtraction, tail cancellation, zero-suppression, formatting and multi-event acquisition. The ADC and the digital circuits for 16 channels are contained in a single custom chip, named ALTRO, implemented in a 0.25 m m CMOS technology. The complete readout chain, which has a power consumption of about 40 mW / channel, is contained in Front End Cards (FEC), with 128 channels each, connected to the detector via kapton cables. A readout partition consists of a number of FECs (up to 25), which are controlled by a Readout Control Unit (RCU). The RCU interfaces a readout partition to the Data Acquisition (DAQ), the Trigger, and the Detector Control System (DCS). Every TPC sector (15488 channels) is readout by 6 partitions (121 FECs).

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/03files/Alice_Portal.html
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 12, 2017, 01:16:14 PM
Just finished watching my newly bought 10 season collection of Stargate SG1....
There were quite a few episodes dealing with different time lines and alternate universes, more than I remember.
But I didn't watch the series end to end when it first aired as I have just done, which made the alternate timeline subject stand out.

Soooo......I order and will receive on Friday Stargate Atlantis (through my Amazon Prime account) (of course I used the banner on Pegasus  ;))(Money for Zorgon)..... 8)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on July 14, 2017, 05:36:41 AM
Strange Case Of A Woman Who Slipped Into A Parallel Universe That Is Slightly Different From Her ‘Home Universe’


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MessageToEagle.com – Scientists are working hard to find solid evidence supporting the many-worlds theory. Not long ago, physicists announced they are investing intriguing ripples in space-time that could offer evidence of parallel universes.

While the scientific quest for other dimensions and parallel universe continues, we can use the opportunity to learn about curious cases of people who by mistake entered invisible worlds existing next to our own.

(http://www.messagetoeagle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/parallelrealittavares1.jpg)
Think of all the parallel timelines or universes running side by side, like railway line tracks and you, been the “train” on one of these tracks.

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There are many interesting stories about people who vanish into thin air. Did these people slip into a parallel universe? What is unusual and almost unheard of is that someone who lives in unknown realms suddenly enters our universe. To them, and their ‘universe of origin’ our world would be the parallel universe.

This is exactly what happened to Lenia Barcía, a woman from Spain who suddenly felt everything around her was wrong.

Her story is so bizarre that many people who heard it had a difficult time to take it seriously. Was Lenia Barcía delusional or did she suffer from mental illness?

It’s easy to dismiss her story as fantasies, but what if her experience is real? Could she be a true visitor from another world? Did she fall into our universe by mistake?
Same Apartment But Some Things Were Out Of Place

It all started when Lenia Barcía woke up in her Madrid apartment one morning. It seemed like just another normal day, but she noticed something odd. She didn’t recognize the bed sheets she had just slept on. She didn’t think much about it, but soon she noticed small things around her that suggested something was wrong. Her apartment seemed to be the same, but some items seemed out of place, as if they didn’t belong there.

Some items in her flat were missing, while others were things she had never seen before. What was wrong?

The most shocking discovery was that her boyfriend was gone. Did he leave her? Where did he go?

At first, Lenia thought her boyfriend had gone missing. However, the truth was much more horrifying.

She looked for his phone number and couldn’t find.  She asked her friends about him, but no one seemed to know who she was talking about. Lenia thought she might be going insane. She contacted the police and reported her boyfriend missing – but the police told her that there were no records of the person she was looking for.
Was Lenia Insane?

Lenia couldn’t understand what was happening. Though she was convinced she was perfectly sane, she visited a psychiatrist who told her she experienced hallucinations due to stress.

Lenia disagreed. She was convinced something serious had happened. When Lenia visited her family she talked about her sister, but her parents told her the events she mentioned never happened. For example, her family didn’t remember a surgery that was performed on her sister’s shoulder a few months ago. When Lenia asked her sister, she said she had never been operated on.

There were so many things around Lenia that simply did not make sense. It was as if she was talking about events she had been experiencing in another life, another timeline.
So Many Things Didn’t Seem Right

Lenia went to work and even there it was clear her life situation had changed in ways she couldn’t never dream off. She worked for the same company, but in a different department in another part of the building. She said that she felt so disoriented at work, she told her supervisor she was ill and went home. At first it took her some time to find her supervisor – because it was a person she had never met before, although her boss claimed to know her well.

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Was Lenia a visitor from a different universe?

S
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he noticed had the same driving license and her IDs were in order, but so many other things in her life were wrong. She remembered events that people say never happened. Her boyfriend whom she knew well was said never to have existed. Items in her flat were unfamiliar.

Lenia has never been declared mentally ill. Nor is she a drug user or drinker. She is normal woman who told her story to the world, but few believe her. Today, she continues to search for clues.

She thinks she has slipped into another universe that is only slightly different from her ‘home universe’. Lenia has accepted her fate and the possibility that she is stuck in this world and may never be able to go home again.

http://www.messagetoeagle.com/strange-case-woman-slipped-parallel-universe-slightly-different-home-universe/



Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: micjer on July 14, 2017, 06:06:16 AM
Reminds me of some movies that I have seen.  People wake up to different lives, to teach them a life lesson.

I wonder what triggered the change.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on July 14, 2017, 07:19:30 AM


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I wonder what triggered the change.

i think the change was started with a desire for  a change  in her life.. wheather knowingly requesting something to happen or a mere whispering of that desire..
i think the strength of someone's 'essence' ( for lack of a better word) contains the strength of the request more than the mere request being made

i have made such a request for something similar and had the request fulfilled..only many years down the road realizing what had happened..
kind of a be careful what you wish for thing

i am currently working on another 'be careful what you wish for' happening but am not getting enough information to share the experience yet

i truly feel that we  as a species are finding our power without comprehension of what we are doing.....

every desire comes  with a two sided possibility and care must be taken  with your thoughts

like the person who wished to be thin and got thin by being very sick and having their health deterorate
they didn't put enough thought into their 'desire/request' and got what they wanted along in  a negative way
we are still  in third dimension and need to understand the duality of it

and yes i am aware i am not 'normal' bwhahahahahahahah..it's all good



Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on July 14, 2017, 10:54:18 AM
otter, we have had this conversation before: be very careful what you wish for or what method you use to implement it...

The story has been told of Aleister Crowley performing a ritual to bring money to him; a day or so afterwards his favorite uncle fell over dead, but his estate was left to Crowely...

He got what he wanted, but look at the cost...

With the lady from Spain, she may have been lying in bed wishing things were different...
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on July 14, 2017, 03:22:41 PM

yes Seeker we have talked of it more than once
but
i think NOW it is just happening .. to folks with no idea of what is happening
no ritual, no belief in the intent  of it.. just done

the thought moves you to somewhere else that looks the same but isn't

i also think it explains some other things like penney's/peney's
enough stupid people thought it and pop..there it is

since the 70's things have been rapidly moving toward this and it's happened more than once and  here we are SEEING it now

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on July 16, 2017, 10:15:38 PM
kind of a be careful what you wish for thing

Now IF all this tineline switch is real,  how nice would it be to CONTROL that switch :D

On the other hand it brings up the question... what happens to the other you that you bump out :D

That article with the lady and the nutmeg   5 times she tried and it wasn't there  but on the six attempt it was...  it kinda goes along with The Secret... the power of manifestation... 

As it stands the Christian already have that in their camp... but they attribute it to a Mystical Being rather than themselves... we are all familiar with the phrase "Ask and Ye Shall receive" The intent is to ask God to grant your wants  but what if its not that way at all?  My favorite story of Jesus is his insisting that you can move mountains if you but believe you can. Now go ask any Preacher and they will tell you that it was meant metaphorically... that it is simply about Faith, not actually moving a mountain physically...

But if you read in  Matthew 21:18-22 New International Version (NIV)

Jesus Curses a Fig Tree

18 Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. 19 Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered.

20 When the disciples saw this, they were amazed. “How did the fig tree wither so quickly?” they asked.

21 Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done. 22 If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.”

I n that phrase the desire is instant...  and he reinforces the mountain statement and it is obvious by the fig tree action that HE MEANS IT LITERALLY

YODA:  Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes. Even between the land and the ship.

LUKE: I don't believe it!

YODA: That is why you fail.

The power of Manifestation SHOULD allow us to jump timelines :D

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on July 17, 2017, 04:45:21 AM
Now IF all this tineline switch is real,  how nice would it be to CONTROL that switch :D

On the other hand it brings up the question... what happens to the other you that you bump out :D
They are probably sitting there going WTF? Just like we are  8)

Remember my serial dream about the asteroid? Haven't had it since things switched for us in October...
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That article with the lady and the nutmeg   5 times she tried and it wasn't there  but on the six attempt it was...  it kinda goes along with The Secret... the power of manifestation... 

As it stands the Christian already have that in their camp... but they attribute it to a Mystical Being rather than themselves... we are all familiar with the phrase "Ask and Ye Shall receive" The intent is to ask God to grant your wants  but what if its not that way at all?  My favorite story of Jesus is his insisting that you can move mountains if you but believe you can. Now go ask any Preacher and they will tell you that it was meant metaphorically... that it is simply about Faith, not actually moving a mountain physically...

But if you read in  Matthew 21:18-22 New International Version (NIV)

Jesus Curses a Fig Tree

18 Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. 19 Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered.

20 When the disciples saw this, they were amazed. “How did the fig tree wither so quickly?” they asked.

21 Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done. 22 If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.”

I n that phrase the desire is instant...  and he reinforces the mountain statement and it is obvious by the fig tree action that HE MEANS IT LITERALLY
That has always been my interpretation; that we create our own daily happenings and can readily influence what happens around us if we believe that we can;

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YODA:  Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes. Even between the land and the ship.

LUKE: I don't believe it!

YODA: That is why you fail.

The power of Manifestation SHOULD allow us to jump timelines :D
I am of the mind that several events lead us to this point in space and time;part of it could have been the desire by many for Trump to win; part of it could have been many wanting change of any kind away from what we have been dealing with for the last decade;

We should be able by will and positive desire alone create a better paradigm if we focus as a group on what we wish to see happen...

The old saying is, where there is the will, there is a way...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on July 17, 2017, 05:52:03 AM
my point is  that this is happening spontaneously to unknowing folks
in numbers that we are just now seeing...
before  things like rituals and "the secret" were ways that called for intent and action on the part of humans
but now it is poof and there they are.. in another place..
like Z in texas..
what got you there Z?  what were you thinking about before it happened and how did you get back?
and maybe all of the mandela stuff is folks slipping back and forth in a spontaneous  happening

maybe the schumann resonance has bounced us back and forth  and maybe things are starting to twine one dimension with another ..like a strand of dna.. we are changing but not in a straight line scenario




What does the spike in the Schumann resonance mean? – Dr. Joe ...
https://www.drjoedispenza.com/.../what-does-the-spike-in-the-schumann-resonance-m...
Feb 18, 2017 - On January 31, 2017, for the first time in recorded history, the Schumann resonance reached frequencies of 36+ Hz. It was considered an ...

sorry that wasn't working here it is

https://www.drjoedispenza.com/blog/consciousness/what-does-the-spike-in-the-schumann-resonance-mean/




http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10479.msg138374#msg138374


Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on July 17, 2017, 08:07:21 AM
I'd have posted this sooner, but I wanted to see if what I'm going to discuss happened again.

I've recently found long scratches on my back in that area that no one can reach without something like a back scratcher. These scratches have now appeared a number of times.

I have not scratched my back. Someone/something has scratched me. The cat is badly crippled and can no longer jump or leave the floor in any way, so I've eliminated him as the source.

I admit this may be more related to my being a CE5 contactee, but I'm throwing it in here because it might be a timeline issue.

Don't ask for pictures. I don't want any part of my fat ass on the internet.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on July 17, 2017, 10:02:21 AM
but now it is poof and there they are.. in another place..
like Z in texas..
what got you there Z?  what were you thinking about before it happened and how did you get back?
Otter, I can't answer for Zorgon other than in a round about way: we didn't make it back; there are too many things that are not right, that have totally changed, and upon asking a lot of the stuff we know as fact has never existed in this timeline...

so my point of view is, we aren't back yet  8)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on July 17, 2017, 10:21:12 AM
I don't know how John Titor is received here, but he did say something interesting.

He said that when you time travel you never return to the universe from which you came. What happens is that you travel to one of the parallel and infinite universes that exist side by side with your own. He said that each universe is a tiny bit different from the one you're in or you came from.

Makes you wonder if something went wrong somewhere with a black hole or singularity and we are now tripping universes as a result of it.

I'm still thinking CERN is the source. I'm not opposed to science, but this particular project is playing a little too fast and loose with our reality in their search for answers.

The very first time they powered that sucker up they blew those huge magnets right off. I don't think even they know what they did.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on July 17, 2017, 01:42:33 PM
I've recently found long scratches on my back in that area that no one can reach without something like a back scratcher. These scratches have now appeared a number of times.

I have not scratched my back. Someone/something has scratched me. The cat is badly crippled and can no longer jump or leave the floor in any way, so I've eliminated him as the source.

I admit this may be more related to my being a CE5 contactee, but I'm throwing it in here because it might be a timeline issue.
That's one more thing you post that I don't think is related to timeline shifts but to something else. I don't know if it's related to you being a contactee or not, but those things sound like "common" paranormal cases.

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Don't ask for pictures. I don't want any part of my fat ass on the internet.
That's always a good policy. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on July 17, 2017, 03:17:00 PM
I'd have posted this sooner, but I wanted to see if what I'm going to discuss happened again.

I've recently found long scratches on my back in that area that no one can reach without something like a back scratcher. These scratches have now appeared a number of times.

I have not scratched my back. Someone/something has scratched me. The cat is badly crippled and can no longer jump or leave the floor in any way, so I've eliminated him as the source.

I admit this may be more related to my being a CE5 contactee, but I'm throwing it in here because it might be a timeline issue.

Don't ask for pictures. I don't want any part of my fat ass on the internet.

Well, the scratches cant be demonic Irene, the copal I am told gets rid of such things with speed; so I am thinking maybe because your a contactee, I cant think of anything else my love.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: A51Watcher on July 17, 2017, 04:38:25 PM
I don't know how John Titor is received here, but he did say something interesting.

He said that when you time travel you never return to the universe from which you came. What happens is that you travel to one of the parallel and infinite universes that exist side by side with your own. He said that each universe is a tiny bit different from the one you're in or you came from.

Makes you wonder if something went wrong somewhere with a black hole or singularity and we are now tripping universes as a result of it.

I'm still thinking CERN is the source. I'm not opposed to science, but this particular project is playing a little too fast and loose with our reality in their search for answers.

The very first time they powered that sucker up they blew those huge magnets right off. I don't think even they know what they did.

It's interesting that people still suspect CERN as the culprit in time travel/universe shifting events.

"CERN started building its very first accelerator in 1957, the Synchrocyclotron, which crashed and smashed its way toward 33 years of service.

CERN now operates several accelerators and one decelerator in a building complex that straddles the Swiss and French border."


CERN's accelerators are just atom smashers.

Their newest collider that came online a few years ago is just the largest one ever built, because it was determined the previous smaller ones did not provide enough resolution in the results.

Time travel or bending has never been one of the results noted. Just pictures of splattered atoms.

The only thing that affects time that has been noted in physics is gravity.

This has been confirmed by 2 atomic clocks placed at different heights.

That being the case one should look to anomalies/experiments in gravity for the culprit.

It could be a black hole gone awry as suggested, but...

the only known human meddling experiment in using gravity to see back in time is project Looking Glass.

This is a fact confirmed by Bob Lazar.

... and Bob ought to know, he operated a multi million dollar collider for Los Alamos as part of his job as physicist there.

A fact confirmed last year by other physicists who also worked there.


 
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on July 17, 2017, 04:48:50 PM
It's interesting that people still suspect CERN as the culprit in time travel/universe shifting events.

"CERN started building its very first accelerator in 1957, the Synchrocyclotron, which crashed and smashed its way toward 33 years of service.

CERN now operates several accelerators and one decelerator in a building complex that straddles the Swiss and French border."


CERN's accelerators are just atom smashers.

Their newest collider that came online a few years ago is just the largest one ever built, because it was determined the previous smaller ones did not provide enough resolution in the results.

Time travel or bending has never been one of the results noted. Just pictures of splattered atoms.

The only thing that affects time that has been noted in physics is gravity.

This has been confirmed by 2 atomic clocks placed at different heights.

That being the case one should look to anomalies/experiments in gravity for the culprit.

It could be a black hole gone awry as suggested, but...

the only known human meddling experiment in using gravity to see back in time is project Looking Glass.

This is a fact confirmed by Bob Lazar.

You've missed the part about the ALICE package and black holes. They've admitted they can make them. You don't think that could backfire?  :o
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on July 17, 2017, 04:59:28 PM
You've missed the part about the ALICE package and black holes. They've admitted they can make them.
Did they admit they can make black holes or did they say that, according to some theories, it would be possible, with a more powerful accelerator?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on July 17, 2017, 05:05:45 PM
Did they admit they can make black holes or did they say that, according to some theories, it would be possible, with a more powerful accelerator?

Mmm.....

You got me there. What I read made them sound pretty confident they can do it.

I view a lot of these projects with a degree of skepticism. I'm skeptical that we are being told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Sort of like the military and the US government.  ::)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: A51Watcher on July 17, 2017, 05:17:52 PM
You've missed the part about the ALICE package and black holes. They've admitted they can make them. You don't think that could backfire?  :o

Well assuming you can create a black hole with a charge and sustain it, then you have the possibility of traveling between the inner and outer horizon.

All of CERN's work takes place on the sub atomic level. Hardly large enough to fit a galaxy or universe through.

The amount of voltage required and present in natural black holes (the big ones) is insanely huge as we discussed earlier in this thread.

To stretch an effect created on a nanoparticle scale up to a universal scale would require herculean acts of physics which we are not capable of.

The Zeta's on the other hand, have proven quite adept with their technology to provide an antimatter reactor the size of a basketball with enough power to amplify subatomic gravity to the point of huge distortion fields.

I just don't think our level of technology has enough ooomph to do any serious damage yet.


 
 
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on July 17, 2017, 05:20:10 PM
Well assuming you can create a black hole with a charge and sustain it, then you have the possibility of traveling between the inner and outer horizon.

All of CERN's work takes place on the sub atomic level. Hardly large enough to fit a galaxy or universe through.

The amount of voltage required and present in natural black holes (the big ones) is insanely huge as we discussed earlier in this thread.

To stretch an effect created on a nanoparticle scale up to a universal scale would require herculean acts of physics which we are not capable of.

The Zeta's on the other hand, have proven quite adept with their technology to provide and antimatter reactor the size of a basketball with enough power to amplify subatomic gravity to the point of huge distortion fields.

I just don't think our level of technology has enough ooomph to do any serious damage yet.

^^^ THIS.....

..... Is why I worked in law enforcement.  :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on July 18, 2017, 10:05:27 AM
Well, the scratches cant be demonic Irene, the copal I am told gets rid of such things with speed; so I am thinking maybe because your a contactee, I cant think of anything else my love.

Thanks, Biggs. I got the copal after you told me about it, but I have to order the right burner. I'm waiting until I need an Amazon order.

Hugs, Biggs.  :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on July 24, 2017, 04:27:44 PM
Maybe this is just me, but I've noticed, lately, a lot of videos and photos are being posted backwards.

Have I gone through the looking glass?  :o
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on July 24, 2017, 04:40:41 PM
I think some people do that with images they do not own to make it harder to identify the images.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on July 24, 2017, 04:42:46 PM
I think some people do that with images they do not own to make it harder to identify the images.

I see. Here I was hoping I'd gone further down the rabbit hole with my red pill.  :P

Not really. I've had enough bizarre for two lifetimes.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on July 24, 2017, 05:21:29 PM
I see. Here I was hoping I'd gone further down the rabbit hole with my red pill.  :P

Not really. I've had enough bizarre for two lifetimes.
Only two? where is your sense of adventure  :P
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: robomont on July 25, 2017, 12:11:41 AM
i suspect its a legal manuever to avoid copywright laws.and yt copywright violations as the filter wont pick it up.its usually yt thieves trying to make a buck off other folks work.theres lots of kids doing similar things for some change.
another one is to use bots to post a vid on 1000s of sites,usually with no synopsis.one kid was making a million a year doing this.
bots are a plague on the www,they make goo statistics slanted.screwing advertisers out of revenue.
but goo is guilty too because if you search highest rated sites,goo is always top even though,basically they are just a gate and search engine.a monopoly on add revenue,imho.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on July 25, 2017, 05:17:42 AM
Going to throw this out there as another item that seems different...

For the last month now, The Weather Channel has been talking about it being Monsoon season in the desert southwest, Jim Cantore going on and on about it today with the super high dew points in Phoenix, Salt Lake City,and Vegas today, numerous flash flood warnings out for most of that area including Clarke county Nevada(Vegas)...


I know that most of the US has been receiving a lot more rain this year than usual, and every day there are reports of flooding somewhere in the country; just seems odd to me that I do not remember the "monsoon season" for the desert...

But then again, back in 2002, I did find, in a storage lot outside Quartzsite, an Airstream Land Yacht camper, mounted on pontoons...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on July 25, 2017, 05:54:16 AM

Seeker
i do like the weather channel and when i read dessert monsoon  i had to go look it up
i get it..and the story about
those folks who were in a swimming hole and the flash flood killed them without warning explains it

phew.. i thought for a minute there we were on rewind..



Arizona Flash Flood Kills 9 Relatives Celebrating Birthday | Arizona ...
https://www.usnews.com/.../flash-flood-kills-5-children-4-adults-at-arizona-swim-hole
Jul 17, 2017 - Authorities say nine members of an extended family killed by a flash flood at an Arizona swimming hole had no warning until the wall of water ...
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/arizona/articles/2017-07-17/flash-flood-kills-5-children-4-adults-at-arizona-swim-hole





Monsoon Season in the Desert Southwest. ... Every July and August, the climate changes dramatically from the dry arid climate of May and June to one of humidity and seasonal rains. This weather change is important to consider when planning a Grand Canyon trip to Arizona or an active vacation in the other desert States.
Monsoon Season in the Desert Southwest - Arizona Outback Adventures
https://aoa-adventures.com/monsoon-season/


https://www.google.com/search?q=Monsoon+season+in+the+desert&rlz=1C1AVNG_enUS691US691&oq=Monsoon+season+in+the+desert&aqs=chrome..69i57.5693j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=monsoon+season+arizona+2017+predictions
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on July 25, 2017, 06:12:43 AM
I guess I just worked too hard for too many years, space; but I do not recall anyone ever discussing the desert monsoon season before; usually this time of year it is focused on tornado outbreaks and hurricane potential...

 :o
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on July 25, 2017, 06:19:17 AM


hey seeker..i agree....but i guess we have to pay more attention  to what is changing now

this getting older thing isn't as much fun as i was hoping for... :o
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on August 01, 2017, 02:01:37 AM
Just came across this meme today...

..notice anything?

(https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p403x403/20476378_10210289004601309_4917162692808719007_n.jpg?oh=fb3d71125a5359fa127213f587d50e55&oe=59F86671)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on August 01, 2017, 03:23:34 AM
Just came across this meme today...

..notice anything?

(https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p403x403/20476378_10210289004601309_4917162692808719007_n.jpg?oh=fb3d71125a5359fa127213f587d50e55&oe=59F86671)
Hmm; Luke and Obi-wan trying to change the channel, Anderson Cooper 360 on Crap News Network with a banner Saying Nelson Mandela 1918-2013, and Obi-wan telling Luke that all the channels are poop...

so what am I missing?  Pass the coffee...
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on August 01, 2017, 08:25:54 AM


well his actual for 'real death' was 12-5-13 so that dates the newscast anyway

maybe they are trying to say it didn't happen and even  at the age of 95 in 2013 he is  not dead yet but somewhere else
or
maybe they think  that he was dead before that date
and this broadcast was phony
and the remark is about that

who knows

i'm at the point of who cares anymore  ::)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on August 01, 2017, 02:08:27 PM
i'm at the point of who cares anymore  ::)

Seems to be a common ailment these days :P

Oh well we can always hop on Thorfourwinds band wagon and make the Earth flat again  LD
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on August 01, 2017, 02:58:25 PM


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i'm at the point of who cares anymore 

that comment was specific to this discussion on the mandella thing


not in general to life
i care a whole helleva lot but the endless discussion on it gets us no where....imo
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on August 01, 2017, 05:56:09 PM
Seems to be a common ailment these days :P

Oh well we can always hop on Thorfourwinds band wagon and make the Earth flat again  LD
  ::) Really?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on August 04, 2017, 10:51:55 AM
Well assuming you can create a black hole with a charge and sustain it, then you have the possibility of traveling between the inner and outer horizon.

All of CERN's work takes place on the sub atomic level. Hardly large enough to fit a galaxy or universe through.

The amount of voltage required and present in natural black holes (the big ones) is insanely huge as we discussed earlier in this thread.

To stretch an effect created on a nanoparticle scale up to a universal scale would require herculean acts of physics which we are not capable of.

The Zeta's on the other hand, have proven quite adept with their technology to provide an antimatter reactor the size of a basketball with enough power to amplify subatomic gravity to the point of huge distortion fields.

I just don't think our level of technology has enough ooomph to do any serious damage yet.

I don't believe in coincidence. There's a reason that research package is named ALICE.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: A51Watcher on August 04, 2017, 12:49:39 PM
I don't believe in coincidence. There's a reason that research package is named ALICE.

For those unfamiliar with Alice package here is an overview of the goals and technologies used -

"Monitoring and calibration of the ALICE time projection chamber"

https://books.google.com/books?id=tglV6rsuYDEC&pg=RA1-PR5&lpg=RA1-PR5&dq=cern+package+alice&source=bl&ots=2jZmKg1yUg&sig=3DopX1wqGN9wPse4PmdsAA5JkIk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQ8ZCcqr7VAhVKzWMKHSz6AEwQ6AEIOTAD#v=onepage&q=cern%20package%20alice&f=false (https://books.google.com/books?id=tglV6rsuYDEC&pg=RA1-PR5&lpg=RA1-PR5&dq=cern+package+alice&source=bl&ots=2jZmKg1yUg&sig=3DopX1wqGN9wPse4PmdsAA5JkIk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQ8ZCcqr7VAhVKzWMKHSz6AEwQ6AEIOTAD#v=onepage&q=cern%20package%20alice&f=false)



Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on August 04, 2017, 04:36:57 PM
All I will say is this, I don't believe everything the government of any country tells me, particularly as it relates to military and scientific matters. Especially if it relates to military and scientific matters.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: biggles on August 04, 2017, 05:17:29 PM
All I will say is this, I don't believe everything the government of any country tells me, particularly as it relates to military and scientific matters. Especially if it relates to military and scientific matters.

They cant lie straight in a bed; agreed my lovely. xo
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on August 05, 2017, 04:47:36 AM
All I will say is this, I don't believe everything the government of any country tells me, particularly as it relates to military and scientific matters. Especially if it relates to military and scientific matters.
That's why I always try to talk directly with the scientists instead of relying on what we read.

It's true, they can also lie, but from my experience they just love to talk about their work to people that appear interested, so at least they answer. :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on September 01, 2017, 08:49:15 AM
Posting this as a matter of written record, I had two incidents of déjà vu on Wednesday. Both synced with news broadcasts on separate issues.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on October 30, 2017, 02:51:01 PM
I am reading a Portuguese translation of Stephen King's "Bag of bones", and found in it a reference to JCPenney, as you can see below.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/SAM_0393_1.JPG)

This book was printed in February 2000.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on January 08, 2018, 02:57:21 PM

i keep coming back to thoughts of this and of things i have seen  and i am leaning towards the explanation of it's all a dimensional bled thru of some type...
i don't have any proof - just my thoughts on it
revisiting things i have experienced and things i still experience
 thinking of how  the craft didn't zoom off  but slowly left my sight line..as if going behind an invisible curtain...things like that
things like the man i see walking his dog - in my library
knowing things..things that just appear in my head before they appear in  front of my eyes

and i think the ancient aliens folk have it all messed up.. i don't think others have come here
so much as i feel we have been dumbed down  and with each major earth cleanse (and yeah i do agree with that) the smart ones..the knowing ones..the ones who could live for long years here.. have left for parts unknown..
while a few who manage to stay tell tales and try to redo what was wiped out
i.e myths, bible stories, folk tales etc.

could those parts unknown be another dimension and being as they were smarter than us - maybe they visit now and again .?


could the fact that we are witnessing  things we are labeling time shifts .. could those things  be pre next earth cleanse and major dimensional shifts.. wobbling in and out in silent warning of what's approaching

if i were the earth i would want to dump the humans again..they just don't seem to learn how to get along or care for their home

anywho..just a few things  inhabiting my brain while i try to figure out the why of some stuff
wondering what the next meatsuit will look like or if we will even have one and where we will be

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: space otter on January 24, 2018, 07:45:05 PM


i am not a regular watcher of this show but i saw the lead in advertised and had to watch..if you get a chance don't miss it..

i laughed so hard.. but it fits here perfectly..


The Mandela Effect Or A Parallel Universe?
Published 01-20-18 • 2 min


'The Lost Art of Forehead Sweat' is my X-Files series finale

http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/24/x-files-forehead-sweat-darin-morgan-critic-essay/

DARREN FRANICH  January 24, 2018 AT 09:15 PM EST
“The Lost Art of Forehead Sweat” is the best X-Files episode so far this season. It’s a mess, no doubt, built on a self-destructing narrative. I understand if you hate it. I loved it, but it has problems. More than anything: It is a lot. There are fantasies, flashbacks that never were, metafiction, the argument that reality itself is metafiction, the phrase “phony fake news.” It is sort of a clip show, and sort of a parody, an attempt toward Trumpian art, and — maybe — a final statement.

The episode’s written by Darin Morgan, whose previous scripts pushed the show to its own outer limits of comedy and tragedy, surrealism, cockroaches, and Alex Trebek. “Forehead Sweat” breaks through the last Great Barrier of sanity. You think of that old Warner Bros. cartoon, where Daffy Duck runs into white space and begs the animator to paint him a background. Or—more recent, less classy, much weirder—you think of the end of The Hills, when it turned out the fake real people were really fake all along.

There’s a scene where Mulder meets the most evil man in the world, creator of the conspiracy to end all conspiracies. They have a long conversation about the nature of everything. Our hero declares, uneasy, that there is “still an objective truth, an objective reality.” Sure, but also: They’re walking through an outdoor art installation, statues of men whose silent laughter seems to taunt Mulder. This Yue Minjun sculpture series is called A-maze-ing Laughter, and it’s in Vancouver. X-Files has mostly shot in Vancouver, of course, but usually the show hides that reality, filming on nondescript steet corners, repeating that establishing shot of FBI HQ. So this obvious location shooting feels like a wink from Morgan, who also directed this episode. You halfway expect Mulder to look around, eyes wide open for the first time: “Dear god, I’m in Canada!”

The tone is set by the prologue. It’s a scene from “The Lost Martian,” a Twilight Zone episode that Mulder remembers the way Proust remembered Aunt Léonie’s spongecake. We see a guy tell a bartender that aliens have already invaded. The guy sees a Martian outside a window; he points toward the window, to us, through the fourth wall. But the window is a mirror. And when the guy looks in the mirror…he sees an alien! Or maybe it’s not a mirror, and did I mention the bartender was an alien, too? Cut to Fox Mulder, eight years old, a moment of epiphany: “Now I get it!”

“The Lost Martian” matters to Mulder. But it’s not important because it’s important. “It’s about my memory of seeing my first Twilight Zone,” he tries to explain, a legendary TV character worshipping legendary TV. And now “The Lost Martian” has gone missing, like it never happened, canceled from history. Mulder checks the internet, scans through his DVD boxed set, pages through his episode guidebooks. This is a quest through bygone ages of fandom: You imagine Mulder clicking through wikias, grabbing DVDs off a dusty bookshelf, pulling guidebooks out of boxes no next of kin will ever bother opening. His final recourse is digging through his own videotapes, a personal archive leftover from the ancient period when everyone wasn’t an archivist.

This quest begins with a mystery man. Reggie Something (Brian Huskey) meets Mulder in a parking lot. This is a double reference, of course: Mulder used to meet shadowy informants like Steven Williams’ Mr. X in a parking lot, because the creators of X-Files were obsessed with Watergate the way modern TV creators are obsessed with OJ, and Watergate informant Deep Throat met journalist Bob Woodward in a parking lot. Reggie tells Mulder a strange story about erased memories. And he seems to know Mulder, well enough to tell him his favorite Twilight Zone episode never existed.

He knows Scully, too. Enough to call her “Sculls,” enough to give her an old snack from long-ago, something called a Goop-O. “I have such wonderful memories associated with it,” says Scully. “I remember family vacations over the summer holidays, and Fourth of July, fireworks, America, God, love.” Gillian Anderson reads those words like she’s scenesetting the great American novel, and David Duchovny cuts her off with perfect snarky wonder: “That’s some Jello!”

“Forehead Sweat” has big ambitions. It wants to talk about the Mandela Effect, the theory that mass misremembrance is proof of some existential conspiracy. And it wants to talk about alternate realities, a science-fiction concept gone so mainstream that it’s peddled by bloated reactionary gasbags and dramedy billboards and every fan theory about every TV show. “Forehead Sweat” is so specific in its politics that it features a Martian direct-quoting Donald Trump, and so absurd in its politics that Martian Donald rides a Segway.

Like Morgan’s splendidly goofball 2016 outing “Mulder and Scully and the Were-Monster,” this episode takes a tough look at Mulder’s legacy, which doubles for the very explicit legacy of The X-Files. At one point, our sly Fox declares that the world has simply become too crazy for his, ahem, “conspiratorial powers.” Scully has her own theory about that. “Maybe you’ve just lost your taste for it,” she says, “especially after all this birther stuff.” That’s right: The Big Man in the White House got there because he peddled his own conspiracy theory. Mulder = Trump: Discuss? But why take things so seriously? Morgan has a fascinating perspective on the show’s resident paranoiac. He pushes Mulder’s renegade-believer act to the point of spaghetti-western absurdity—I could hear Duchovny say the word “Squatchin’ ” all day—and yet there is something quite sad in the silliness. At one point, insulted by some young feds, he positively squeals with declining self-regard:

Do you know who I am? I’m Fox Mulder! I was fighting the power and breaking conspiracies before you saw your first chemtrail, you punks! I’m Fox Freaking Mulder, you punks! I’m Fox Mulder! Fox Mulder!

This is the “I’m the Goddamn Batman!” of X-Files, except definitely funny and unquestionably sad. I cherish Morgan’s cockeyed vision of what this show can be, admire how he can make Mulder seem so much weirder than usual and so terribly human. His peacocking is egotistical (FOX FREAKING MULDER) but also sounds like the chestbeating of a dying animal. Credit to Duchovny, for really going for it. (Credit, too, to Chris Carter, the producer who still sees something marvelously essential in the Darin Morgan version of X-Files.)

All this in one episode— plus, a brief chronicle of the downward moral spiral of the federal government in the past few decades, told via montage within a single office cubicle? Witness poor everydud Reggie descending through recent history, from cheerful Postal Service employee to bored “enhanced interrogation” waterboarding torturer to drone pilot accidentally blowing up another wedding. That’s some Jello!




.............................................

http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/24/x-files-darin-morgan-lost-art-of-forehead-sweat/
Morgan returned for the season 10 revival, penning the 2016 fan-favorite “Mulder and Scully Meet the Were-Monster,” and now, he’s back with season 11’s funniest and most insightful episode yet. “The Lost Art of Forehead Sweat” finds Mulder and Scully meeting Reggie (Brian Huskey), a panicked conspiracy theorist with some surprising knowledge of Mulder and Scully’s past. “I wanted to do a conspiracy episode,” Morgan explains. “I hadn’t really done one before.”

The result is a twisty tale of false memories and nostalgia, packed with tongue-in-cheek Trump references, Twilight Zone throwbacks, and a deep dive into the Mandela Effect. (The effect refers to the phenomenon where multiple people misremember a fact or event. To use a popular example, if you were shocked to learn that the beloved children’s book series about an anthropomorphic ursine family is spelled The Berenstain Bears, not The Berenstein Bears, you’ve been a victim of the Mandela Effect.)

Before the episode airs, EW chatted with Morgan about writing Mulder and Scully in 2018 — and how the show’s investigation into truth and facts is more relevant than ever.

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i tried to get a vid but you have to go thru all kinds of hoops
here's the first one or two..good luck



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNPqoppwa8c



http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/24/x-files-darin-morgan-lost-art-of-forehead-sweat/


maybe it will eventually show up here


https://www.fox.com/the-x-files/
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: robomont on January 24, 2018, 08:54:45 PM
As i raise my fist to the sky,i am robomont!
A king of ct,a beacon of creation in the drone world.cubicle mania of mouse clickers hell surrounds me here in this psych hospital ward and the halls end of an emergency wing.
My coffee black and hot,delivered at my whim.
I read this story by the otter in devilish amazement of "mulders way".
Wishing for one small moment in time,i actually had a working tv that could pick up broadcast.
What a tease,the sweaty freshly cooked turkey leg bone files for the dog,dripping in juices of x broth so rich,saliva drizzles from the canines tongue as his eyes squint with intent.oh the xfiles story of intrique how can you go any further than abyss,the bridge is gone and mulder truly hangs in suspended imagination over awesomeness in all its splender!
Otter,you frigin tease!,what an awesome critique!
I AM ROBOMONT,HEAR ME VAINLY ROAR!!!!!!
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Gigas on January 24, 2018, 09:29:35 PM
I call this a Quantum Matrix Projection. Where any thing can happen, and does. A dream like place that feels real only because of our 5 senses to experience it. It's a life sentence of happiness, pain, suffering all obscured by the enchanting beauty of the planet, where never ending, what the hell just happened, moments occur. It keeps the mind busy and distracted unless you are one who notices the glitch effect and you must open your forensic mind to track the events, compile them into a timeline and try to make sense of the events.

1958, I was around 6 and my dad had a heart attack. Visiting him at the VA, I had to stay on ground level visitors room. Both parents were in that room. On that warm sunny summer day I walked out and around the door to the side of the entrance. There I looked on the ground next to the entrance wall and I see a large green musty turtle in the dirt moving its legs as if going somewhere, but it wasn't. I bent over closer and smelled that musty smell and looked down at the turtle as it stretched its head and looked back. I never saw a living turtle till then but knew it was a turtle.

Excited, I ran back in the visitors room and yell for my dad to come out and see this turtle on the ground. He gets up and follows me out as I ran. I get to the spot and its gone, not there, no where in sight. There was no one in that yard before or after except me, no place the turtle could of moved to and be out of sight. Of course my dad got mad and yelled at me for getting him out there. That was my beginning of the Matrix experience.

1966 I'm in Jr high 9th grade. Walking down the hall between class with kids every where in the hall. I come up to a teacher standing out side his class room who I don't know his name but know he is a typing teacher. As I got close to him on my right and his left, his head snaps to his left and he looks down at me and says, why don't you go back to where you came from. Where did that come from and why. He didn't know me, we never talked or met. Yet out of his mouth comes words as if he was being used to transmit a message to me.

1996 coming back from Milwaukee, late afternoon, sunny summer evening with the sun in the west around 8:00 pm. I'm driving home to Green Bay and as I begin to pass a semi truck on the 4 lane, I am coming by its rear tandem wheels looking over at it and we drove into a black void together. I have no recollection after that, no memory of anything, no idea till I came out of the black void 3 tenths of a mile from my house.

Now it was dark out side and it felt like I came out of a dream. I drove over 120 miles or so and have no memory of doing so. Or, maybe I didn't drive, maybe thats were the projection ended and a glitch began till it was corrected, or maybe I was taken and I have no idea but can tell you what happened before and after as far I can remember. maybe I went into that back end reality that projects the front end we always see and believe.

I live on an Indian reservation and my house is on tribal land. Pulling into my driveway I am in bewildered shock and get out to check my car for damage. None, nothing, but I am very sleepy and go inside to bed after seeing the clock was at 11:30 pm. Next morning I jump up and still know something happened and run out to check my car again in the morning light. Nothing, all clean and no scrapes or damage.

Now just recently. Tuesday December 19 2017 I was in Milwaukee in the hospital having cancer removed from my back shoulder. I had a huge extremely large carcinoma surgically removed. It was a little weird but got weirder on Thursday. But first this, On Thursday the Hospital Pharmacist came in my room to fill a prescript for oxycondone pain killers. I brought only my credit card with me in case I needed to get something at the hospital. I tell the Pharm I will pay for the pills thinking I have my credit card.

Calling my sister who brought me down to the hospital and went back home, I say I have to pay for pills with my credit card. She goes, we have your credit card, I went what, why do you have it. She goes you told the hospital to give it to her for safe keeping after I got out of surgery. I said no I didn't, I was still under till after 6pm that day and they they left at 5pm. I never talked to anyone till I finally woke up after 6pm.

Talking to my sister when I got home Friday, I find out the hospital went through my clothing and called them in to my room and hospital staff asked me if my sister should take the card and my house key. My sister said I was coherent and talking clearly and said yes, give it to my sister to take home to Green Bay. No I didn't, I have no recollection of being awake and talking to anyone right after surgery.

That Wednesday the Doctor said release was going to be Friday but next day Thursday was a day of total craziness. I was released over the day by several nurses and had to tell each one, hey I can't go anywhere, I have to contact my ride in Green Bay and it will be hours before they can get there. They each had to go to the doctor who did the surgery and much later came back with a Friday release. Even the Pharmacist said I was released Thursday. It was absolute confusion and I was getting crazy as to what was happening.

Also the Doctor came in my room Thursday and said they have home care all set up back home to assist me in recovery. Another woman came in and I signed papers for her home care and she asked from which facility would I like the nurse from. I told her St Vincent Hospital in Green Bay. I never heard from any home care nurse when home, no visits, no call, nothing. And I needed that help.

So, what the hell happened there.

Now, two weeks ago here, at home. 11:45pm I am up taking my medications. I will be listening to Coast to Coast talk radio at mid nite. I return to my bed with my ear phones on and TV on at the foot of the bed and as I lay down facing the TV, reality broke and I went in to a dream like reality where I was laying flat and my heart was going crazy and I was dying as I tried to get up but it felt more like I was being lifted up and then in the black void. Sometime in that void state I regain some form of consciousness and feel like electricity is being run over my body as I go back out in the void.

Some time after this I regain myself back in this reality with the TV on and head phones in my ears. I laid there for a minute wondering just what happened here. It was then I realized I was laying across the bed with my feet dangling to the floor and the TV off to my right. Getting up, I am not dizzy, weak, no pain. I was as if nothing happened but something did. Walking in the front room I was ok but my pants felt heavy. I went back in the bathroom and found them soaking wet. Now before you go, ahhh you pee'd yourself. I had just used the bathroom before laying down.

I dialed 911 and thought I better get checked out. What a mistake. That 3 day hospital stay was a nightmare. They wanted to cut me open for a heart defibrillator install, a pace maker install and put me on seizure medication. Some one changed that I found myself cross ways on my bed to getting up and falling to the floor and getting up and falling on the couch.

Someones playing with me from that hidden place.


Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Irene on January 24, 2018, 09:40:04 PM
Gigas,

I live in a suburb of Milwaukee. I'm pretty tired, but wanted to reply quickly before bed, and in detail tomorrow.

I am right there on that same wavelength with you. Bang, bang, bang, almost every sentence.

There is something f'ing weird going on.

Your quote -

Quote
Yet out of his mouth comes words as if he was being used to transmit a message to me.

Abso-damn-lutely! Happened to me too!
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Gigas on January 24, 2018, 10:23:53 PM
Milwaukee neighbor. Imagine that. I was born and raised till 11 in Milwaukee before moving to Oneida by Green Bay. My one and only son lives in Milwaukee and does armed security for a couple a hotels on I894 and south 27th. My mother is/was full blooded Oneida and she had a tract of tribal land we built a new start on.

My one and only son is full of stories such as these. We sometimes talk on the phone about these mysteries and the phone goes hay wire and disconnects over and over. Guess were not suppose to talk about things like that.
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on January 25, 2018, 01:58:18 PM
Now just recently. Tuesday December 19 2018 I was in Milwaukee in the hospital having cancer removed from my back shoulder.
December 2018?  ???
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: Gigas on January 25, 2018, 02:43:15 PM
December 2018?  ???

Can you, or someone else fix that to 2017

Thanks
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on January 25, 2018, 05:02:23 PM
Can you, or someone else fix that to 2017

Thanks
Done.  :)
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 08, 2018, 07:27:01 PM
i keep coming back to thoughts of this and of things i have seen  and i am leaning towards the explanation of it's all a dimensional bled thru of some type...
i don't have any proof - just my thoughts on it

Got this from someone on FB:

Julie Phelps: There is one connection I talked with who has now disappeared. Now OK people move on etc. However Robert Greene was one of my LinkedIn Connections and he was involved in inter-dimensional research. Now shamans  know how one can shift ones perception and astral travel to other dimensions etc.. it takes a lot of effort to travel and some forms drain your life force so if you stay too long you will likely die before you get back. Also there are dangers from other entities. Anyway Robert was involved in computer enhanced interface to enhance the ability for the consciousness to travel to other dimensions. He told me he managed to do it but could not get back, lucky however some friendly inter dimensional beings helped him. He published a paper in a well known Neuroscience Journal which he gave me the link etc.... Recently I thought I would see how he was doing but he was no longer on LinkedIn also his paper has disappeared from the journals, I can find no trace of him online at all?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: zorgon on February 08, 2018, 09:01:20 PM
I am reading a Portuguese translation of Stephen King's "Bag of bones", and found in it a reference to JCPenney, as you can see below.

Since JC PENNEY is the spelling in THIS timeline that paper would be more meaningful if it said JC PENNY  :D

Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 09, 2018, 06:56:00 AM
Since JC PENNEY is the spelling in THIS timeline that paper would be more meaningful if it said JC PENNY  :D
Doesn't that mean that all evidences will point to this timeline, seeing that's the one we're in?
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: The Seeker on February 09, 2018, 08:59:00 AM
Doesn't that mean that all evidences will point to this timeline, seeing that's the one we're in?
Not necessarily; we do have some evidence from the previous time line, such as Mic's pic of J C Penny, the VHS tape of Star Wars and Sinbad and several more; I am becoming of the opinion that this particular occurrence may have been orchestrated, since it appears that the group of us aware of this seem to have jumped together, but for what purpose or reason?

That is the question...
Title: Re: Time Lines A Glitch in the Matrix Something funny happened on MARS
Post by: ArMaP on February 09, 2018, 03:24:30 PM
Not necessarily; we do have some evidence from the previous time line, such as Mic's pic of J C Penny, the VHS tape of Star Wars and Sinbad and several more;
What Star Wars tape? ???