Nice find. I had no idea there were this many sightings before the Roswell "crash" (I know they shot it down, including another).
...So after seeing all the stories from Oregon up until the Roswell story....
I have to think that the reason it got dropped, or 'explained', is rather obvious.
When you have documents stating how the gov't infiltrated big name newspapers in the 40's...
Originally posted by babybunnies
... often suspected that this was never a crash, that it was shot down, but this lays it all out very, very well.
Great thread and placed Roswell for me into a new light. I was always a believer in the Roswell case. But understood, that people were and still are receptive for the weather balloon explanation.
Now looking at your findings, the old weather balloon excuse just looks pretty funny. UFO sightings all over the place, reported from many many people, even mass sightings.
And what does the Air Force capture? A weather balloon Was it disc shaped?
Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
UFOs still go to President Ronald Reagan a one time ranch in New Mexico.
Tesla ships that is.
Spotted by Lyne a few times last year.
The man who sold the green skin color for the Roswell hoax.
Originally posted by A51Watcher
A while back Stanton Friedman told me that Roswell was not the beginning, but actually the end of a period when Flying Discs (as they were called back then) were buzzing the entire United States continuously for an entire 2 weeks BEFORE Roswell.
Originally posted by Gazrok
Presumably, this would indicate where "they" may be from..at least in a spherical distance model. Still a lot of Universe to search, but just thought it was kind of interesting.
Originally posted by Anunaki10
Once again, you misunderstood something here. Hitler never sent Von Braun to the United States, as he wanted to keep his own scientists. Do you really think that Hitler wanted to send his own scientists to his enemies? ;D
Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by A51Watcher
Interesting idea... The Trinity test was in June of 1945. Would be interesting to see how far this would have been detectable in space, within two years...as it seems (assuming the UFO flap in 47 was a response to investigate this "coming of age" event)
Presumably, this would indicate where "they" may be from..at least in a spherical distance model. Still a lot of Universe to search, but just thought it was kind of interesting.
Originally posted by A51Watcher
R: "Besides, the Reds would own the world now if they'd jumped that far ahead in '47. At least they'd be holding a gun at our heads."
"According to worthy information of faith, in our atmosphere objects arrive at high speed. No aircraft, neither in the United States, either in the Soviet Union is currently able to achieve the speed attributed to these objects from the radars and from the observatories. These objects appear to be driven by an intelligence the way in which they fly. According to reports from scientists and technical personnel, these objects fly in formation and finish manoeuvres that seem to point out that are not completely driven from an automatic equipment. These objects are in incontestable mode the result of long investigations and highly technological and exceptional knowledge."
Admiral S. Fahrney,head of missile testing for the American Navy
For me the proof of something gone arye is the fact that after the crash at Roswell, ATT labs suddenly comes up with the invention of the transistor. I am an electronic technician and for my it is a far cry to go from the idea of vaccuum technology to using a device based on silicon sand as the basis for operation. That would be about the same as going from horse and buggy technology to have flying cars. I really makes you wonder.
I'va always found it interesting a lot of UFO activity being reported in the US very soon after the nazi scientists were brought to the US like von braun...
During the periodic MFA (Manned Flight Awareness) meetings that were held at Cocoa Beach, I was able to talk freely and briefly with such scientists, particularly Dr. von Braun.
"On one such occasion, he and I had taken a break and stepped out of the Cocoa Beach Ramada Inn into the back patio. I admitted that I was aware that he and his German Scientific team were located not too far from the crash site at that time. They were launching captured V-2 rockets from the White Sands Testing Range.
On this night, I asked him a question concerning the Roswell Incident that caused his eyebrows to raise.
Did the Roswell Incident in fact happen, was an alien craft recovered along with alien bodies? Did you have a chance to go to the crash site?"
Von Braun lit a cigarette, thought for a second, and then began to discuss the crash openly.
He trusted me to hear such astonishing events because I vowed to not report it to newspapers, magazines, television, etc. I never broke that vow. Since he is deceased, and the incident happened over fifty years ago, I am now disclosing what I heard...
Dr. von Braun explained how he and his associates had been taken to the crash site after most of the military were pulled back. They did a quick analysis of what they found.
He told me the craft did not appear to be made of metal as we know metal on earth. He said it seemed to be created from something biological, like skin. I was lost as to what he indicated, other than thinking perhaps the craft was "alive."
The recovered bodies were temporarily being kept in a nearby medical tent. They were small, very frail and had large heads. Their eyes were large. Their skin was grayish and reptilian in texture. He said it looked similar to the skin texture of rattle snakes he'd seen several times at White Sands.
His inspection of the debris had even him puzzled: very thin, aluminum colored, like silvery chewing gum wrappers. Very light and extremely strong.
The interior of the craft was nearly bare of equipment, as if the creatures and craft were part of a single unit.
That's when I became lost in the moment. We returned to the awards ceremony, in which he participated, later bidding farewell. I went home with my head spinning from all I had heard."
Originally posted by A51Watcher
In the period between Randle and Schmitt's first and second book, I asked Kevin how many witnesses we had so far. The answer was: 500+ first and second hand witnesses to either craft, wreckage or bodies[at Roswell, 1947].
Just so you know....the time and effort you have put into this thread since you began it a few months ago is really really appreciated by moi....
This thread shows that there was lots going on in the press....
There were also unusually large numbers of fatal air accidents in the same time period which I will report to members soon. It shows that Roswell was part of something that seems to have been a lot bigger than is generally perceived.
Heyyo_yoyo and Area51watcher...
We should all get together over at John's house one day and shoot the crap He doesn't get out much these days since we closed the mine. I am sure he would be up for it
Originally posted by A51Watcher
How about we keelhaul him on a road trip north/east from Hwy 375 and bring along a night vision cam?Quote
LMAO.... only if Art does a C2C covering the road trip ;D ;D ;D
Note: contact at Arizona Charlies west... ;D
Lytle told Hastings that in February 1953, with Blanchard now a general officer, they were in Alaska while Lytle’s wife was in Chicago about to give birth. Lytle was desperate to get home and Blanchard said that they could take an Air Force aircraft to Illinois, land at one of the bases close to Chicago and Lytle could get home from there.
While on the flight, somehow the subject of UFOs came up, maybe because of a couple of sightings at Elmendorf Air Force Base near Anchorage sometime earlier. Blanchard then told Lytle that an alien craft had crashed near Roswell. According to Hastings, Blanchard told Lytle that four bodies had been recovered.
Surprised by this, Hastings asked Lytle, "Blanchard actually told you that the Roswell object was an alien spacecraft."
Lytle said, "Oh, absolutely."
June 28 - ...approached the observers in a jagged, zigzagging course, with frequent bursts of speed... to a point directly overhead, and the four officers reported that it then made a sharp, sudden 90° turn toward the south... they heard no noise.
(strangely maneuvering light) Montgomery, Alabama - 9:20 p.m. CST (7:20pmPST)
Hi A51
There are some incredible speeds there. But a lot of these might be simply exceptionally quick conventional craft that the witnesses didn't recognise....
That's what drew my attention to the report above....
There is no way this is a conventional craft from that period, or even current technology. This jagged zigzagging at high speed would likely kill the pilot as a result of the physical forces exerted on his/her body.
More examples of these impossible seeming movements would raise some fascinating questions.
I have also seen examples of objects doing 90 degree turns and stopping dead from high speeds.
Did the newspapers in that locality report many such examples?
The possibility of craft not originating from Earthly technology coupled with suspiciously high air accident reports right where the most sensitive military tests on Earth were being conducted is intriguing to say the least. 8)
Area51watcher, this is some of your finest work! i love this thread and i'm constantly reading the new material.
You truly are an asset to this forum! keep up the great work, it's so well written and researched.I have read the book the day before roswell, and agree with a lot of the subject matter especially about the seeding of the tech for research into lasr,fibre optic,night vision etc.
I do think this is why we had a quantum leap in technology in such a short time. All the new breakthroughs in that time scale?
is it true that the book was not really proof read & this is how it slipped past the censors OR would you say it's what TPTB call accountable denyability (something like that?) so IF the truth does come out they can say "well it's all in this and that book"
I have just been surprised to see a TV drama program that I watched some years ago about the UFO scene...
Did you ever watch the Mini TV Series called Taken !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29
Im curious if A51 watcher may had witnessed a similar lighting effects when he observed the Saucers in 1992..
A51,Did you manage to watch the BBC UFO conspiracy Road trip that I posted...
see the last 5 to 10 minutes in the link below...where Annie Jacobson talks about her latest theories on what happened with the Roswell incident... that the Russians had sent over a Saucer type craft containing humans made to look Alien like...
Not that she could offer any proof !
How they keep coming up with new theories !
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2988.0
UFO Conspiracy Road Trip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ByWCFX4ZQs
Now that's laughable.Too much television, too many video games, too much time on their hands,
Just for a lark, I googled my nick yesterday and got 3 pages of results with people pasting this Roswell thread to their own ufo website. (So nice to be popular! :P )
...but one of the results was from http://forum.ourradio.hk/ (http://forum.ourradio.hk/)
(Hong Kong)
They also had pasted this thread but had also added some commentary of their own.
I had to click on 'translate this page' and you know how well (cough) google translate performs but none the less I found it quite interesting and some of the translations quite amusing -
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-TW&u=http://forum.ourradio.hk/viewthread.php%3Ftid%3D29936%26page%3D2&prev=/search%3Fq%3DA51watcher%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26biw%3D1920%26bih%3D908%26prmd%3Dimvns&sa=X&ei=VsiFUIfdD5Km8gT5nYHoCA&ved=0CGEQ7gEwCQ (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-TW&u=http://forum.ourradio.hk/viewthread.php%3Ftid%3D29936%26page%3D2&prev=/search%3Fq%3DA51watcher%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26biw%3D1920%26bih%3D908%26prmd%3Dimvns&sa=X&ei=VsiFUIfdD5Km8gT5nYHoCA&ved=0CGEQ7gEwCQ)
8)
Very soon we will have to wait in line just for an autograph.
NOTE TO NEW MEMBERS
This is a must read thread if you are new to the site. ;)
Report on the UFO Wave of 1947 -
by Ted Bloecher, Introduction by Dr James E. Mcdonald.[/b]
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/dbeb36f43b45.jpg)QuoteDuring the summer of 1947 a bizarre and inexplicable situation developed in North America for which, up to the time of the writing of this report, twenty years later, no satisfactory explanation has been forthcoming. Beginning in the latter part of June, people in widely separated places and from all walks of life began to report having seen shining, high-speed, strangely maneuvering objects in the sky. In most of these reports the objects were described as round or disc-shaped. For more than a week sightings were made in continuously increasing numbers. On July 4th the reports rose sharply and spontaneously, and for five days there was scarcely any part of the United States that had not been visited by these strangely elusive aerial objects. Reports came from many points in Canada as well. The number of sightings crested on July 7th, and during the next few days reports began to diminish until, about a week later, only a handful were being made from scattered sections of the country. Although the objects themselves had all but vanished, interest and speculation about them continued for some time after. A wave of sightings of unidentified flying objects had occurred. Flying saucers had become part of the language and the subject of fickle interest and ever-increasing confusion.
Link (http://nicap.org/waves/Wave47Rpt/ReportUFOWave1947_Menu.htm)
Alfred Loedding and the great flying saucer wave of 1947 -
by Michael D Hall & Wendy A Conners.
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/70fbb924db7b.jpg)QuoteThis book is an acute analysis of the myriad of UFO sightings that were reported across the U.S. during the summer of 1947. Hundreds of unidentified flying objects were seen all over the country and both the mainstream media and the military took the phenomenon very seriously.
But where does Alfred Loedding come into the picture? Well, Mr. Loedding was a civilian engineer for the U.S. Air Force at the time, specializing in low-aspect design aircraft, such as flying wings or flying disks, i.e. exactly the type of aircrafts that were being sighted around the country.
So, due to his expertise he became involved in the investigation of the UFOs, relaying information between the Air Force and the Pentagon. Loedding became a member of Project Sign, which was the Air Force’s formal UFO investigation unit. When the Air Force ended its UFO investigation program in 1969, Loedding had investigated hundreds of UFO reports and interviewed countless witnesses.
Link (pdf) (http://www.nicap.org/loedding/LoeddingBook.pdf)
The Flying Saucers Are Real
by Donald Keyhoe [1950]
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/05f1e943e61f.jpg)QuoteThis was one of the first books published about the UFO phenomena. We are fortunate that it ended up in the public domain.
It is a template for much of what would follow: the paranoia, the government disinformation, the inescapable conclusion that the saucers are not of this earth. Keyhoe, with his spare, matter of fact writing style, which also conveys a profound sense of wonder, has to be the prototype for the deadpan Fox Mulder of the X-Files.
On one hand we can see the birth of a key modern mythology. On the other, there is a body of almost naive evidence in this text unpolluted by that very mythology. The case studies are real. The witnesses were highly reliable. These cases are still unexplained.
link (http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/fsar/index.htm)
July 10 1947 - Morristown, New Jersey - Early A.M. EST
MORRISTOWN DAILY RECORD (New Jersey) 7/11
Six daylight discs observed from aircraft
John H. Janssen, editor of the Daily Record reported that on the preceding morning he "caught a glint in the sky and saw a formation of six luminous spherical craft, with hazy rings around them flying in a trail at about 10,000 feet in the sky" above him.
He grabbed his camera and "quickly fitted a filter to his camera lens" -
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/143d802ed6ae.jpg)
"I had only time for this one picture. While I was turning the film for the next exposure the lead disc suddenly shot upward and toward New York City in a dazzling burst of speed. The other three followed and all were out of sight in a twinkling of the eye."
"In my brief glimpse of the discs I did notice that the lead one was of a dull metallic color and the others appeared to be of a silvery hue."
"From where I stood on the top of my car watching the strange craft," he said, "I guessed them to be anywhere from 100 to 300 feet in diameter. The circumference was the thinnest part of the ships and widened toward the middle where possibly they could be ten to twenty feet high."
The result is a formation of UFO which now appear to have the same shape.
Oh and they did this every day in 1947 across every state in the nation?
Originally posted by Condemned0625
I figured you would pick upon my various sarcasm about "the crash". Obviously the Army was in a pickle, and was daily being made fools of by these things that demonstrated vast superiority, and that the Army was unable to control/defend our skies.
So I wonder which scenario happened in private with the General and his staff seated around a conference table:
A) General: "Gee I hope one of those pretty flying saucers comes down and lands and introduces themselves to us, they are makin us look kinda bad right now. Let me know when that happens ok?"
or
B) General: "I don't care WHAT it takes... BRING ONE OF THOSE THINGS DOWN... NOW!!!
Do you understand me??!!
"...Guard planes "patrol" saucer routes with camera's..." Yeah you bet, along with our top weapons of the day too!!
I want to know what would motivate Aliens to suddenly make mass appearances in 1947.
Sort of note to self.
Nuclear testing.
And they turned up two years late? lol - I'm going to have a coffee, and return to present my thoughts thus far.
Another sort of similar characteristics I did was of sightings of formations of saucers that year.
When multiple discs were seen, they were most commonly seen in a V formation -
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/saucer-thumb_zps1818c0fd.jpg)
The length of the list rivals any of the above lists I have posted in the last few days, so I will forego that wall of text. Rest assured that the V formation was by far the dominant pattern seen in 1947.
Thats a very Earthly quality now isn't it....
These guys use it too...Do you know why?
(http://www.wisdomportal.com/Poems2010/GeeseV(352x264).jpg)
My counter argument:OK, lets take a look. :)
If Aliens were that concerned about Atmoic energy, they would not have allowed the bombs to be detonated in 1945."They" (if they exist) may not have known we existed until we detonated a nuke. That may have alerted galactic neighbours to Earth reaching a certain level of development.
They would not have waited two more years before trying to intimidate us out of atomic energy.It may have taken two years to respond to the alert.
If they were that 'advanced' they would not have 'crashed' at Roswell.You do not know how advanced "they" are. Our technology may well have surprised them. No matter how advanced a technology is, it can only deal with what it is designed to.
I do not think the only people who could have this technology is ET.OK, then who?
There are rumours that past Earth people have had this 'new' technology,This is an argument that has been considered. Time travellers or humans (or even reptiles/dinosaurs) could have returned by time travel, hiding or from deep space travel. Crypto-ancients hypothesis (I just made that term up LOL)
and there are also rumours human were working on this technology in the late 18th century.But they were unsuccessful as far as we know.
At no time during this thread has Admiral Byrds Opertaion Highjump been included which also provide testimony that the Nazi's had flying saucer craft that could, quote "fly from pole to pole", unquote.What reliable sources? I thought you were saying military sources were not reliable? ::)
[ I find it highly unlikely that if an Alien ship did crash at Roswell,Being unlikely does not mean that things do not happen. Unlikely events are rare not impossible.
the Air Force officers in question would have really told the media about it, and although that story was retracted, it still set the scene for one of the most prevalent myths in modern history.Yes the UFO mythos has been milked for all it is worth but that is not evidence for or against ant particular event.
My question is, apart from hearsay, has anybody got real proof of ET at Roswell?We don't have absolute proof of anything from chatting on forums. What do you mean by proof? We have no proof of most things. What do you say is proof? The accounts of Byrds expedition are far more ropey.
Re, Pims 'Military source' and 'Byrd Comments', Forrestal was killed, and as I've previously stated, deaths lend credibilty to the source as far as I care.
These guys use it too...
(http://www.wisdomportal.com/Poems2010/GeeseV(352x264).jpg)
But why would Aliens flying in a group not use it? People also say why would Aliens have marker lights on their flying saucers..
well maybe for the same reason WE do
::)
Phil Schneider was killed also... guess that makes Dulce Base real 8)
After it was claimed Phil Schneider's Dulce base story was made up according to sources on PRC that have informed me so...The Dulce story was BS. That does not mean there is no underground base somewhere near there. There is a lot of smoke and mirrors surrounding real secret projects or cover ups of real sensitive accidents or secret science projects.
Phil Schneider was killed also... guess that makes Dulce Base real 8)
The Dulce story was BS. That does not mean there is no underground base somewhere near there. There is a lot of smoke and mirrors surrounding real secret projects or cover ups of real sensitive accidents or secret science projects.
I think there are areas where nukes were tested underground and they wanted to keep folks away. They were also testing the animal tissues in the area to see the effects of radioactive tests - hence the mutilations.
ETA: There was probably a lot more to it but there is a couple of interesting possibilities
Phil obviously pi$ed some one off tho.
I would say:
You just can not ignore this.
;)
Do you know why?Why?
I guess that makes my testimony unreliable as well.t are enlightening as well, but this exercise has become redundant at this point.I have worked for the UK government and almost certainly will be needed again. My testimony is 100% bang on the real deal. Sinny, who do you work for. ;D
Why?For the same reason cyclists follow each other, the one in the front creates a slight vortex that makes it easier for the one behind him, and after some time they change places. In the case of the birds it's probably because of the movement of the wings to each side making the same effect for the ones behind and to each side. For birds that fly long distances that makes a big difference.
For the same reason cyclists follow each other, the one in the front creates a slight vortex that makes it easier for the one behind him,
Has anyone considered that this flight of saucers came from the direction of a then secret air base in Canada (Alberta)? The same air base where when rumors of NAZI saucer work being done there caused them to release the Avro to the press?
Curious huh?
8)
ALL government sources ( documents or former employees ) of UFO info as BOGUS. Why waste time chasing dis-information when there are more credible sources out there?
There are no eternal facts, as there are no absolute truths.
– Friedrich Nietzsche: Human, All-too-Human
Good PR to scare the Russians and they have been doing so ever since.
And Race Car Drivers too... it's called "Drafting"Car (and moto) racers used it to gain a speed advantage over the one(s) in front, not as a way of using less energy.
A51, the people within the military that I commented were key international 'movers and shakers, and were embedded in 'alternative ideolog'y.
My comments on 'who do their actions serve' does not relate to the majority of the military force - who are for all intents and purposes, pawns in the game.
Zorgons presented the line of thought of which 'you guys' in turn seem to be turning a blind 'eye'.
Now can someone PLEASE give me a date when they turned from GREEN to GREY?When people started having colour TVs? :)
The electric eel (Electrophorus electricus) is an electric fish, and the only species in its genus.
It is capable of generating powerful electric shocks of up to 650 volts, which it uses for hunting,
self-defense and communicating with fellow eels.
It is an apex predator in its South American range. Despite its name, it is not an eel,
but rather a knifefish.
Researchers at Yale University and the National Institute of Standards and Technology argue artificial cells
could be built that not only replicate the electrical behavior of electric eel cells, but also improve on them.
Artificial versions of the eel's electricity-generating cells could be developed as a power source
for medical implants and other microscopic devices.
Man’s fascination with electricity began long before Benjamin Franklin flew his fabled kite
in the lightning storm.
For hundreds of years, people have admired and coveted this natural power, seeking to create it,
harness it, or control it.
While modern technology would lead us to believe that we have mastered these lofty goals,
the disheartening fact remains that Mother Nature has beaten us to it.
Within the animal kingdom, there are literally hundreds and hundreds of electric animals, common
and obscure, which are just simply shocking!
Other Electric Animals:
While stingrays, eels and catfish are the most widely known animals with electrical capabilities,
there are many, many more. Over 500 different creatures harbor the ability to create an electrical shock.
Elephant fishes, bonytongues, and stargazers are all fish with various degrees of electrical power.
Many fish use electric fields as a navigational tool, similar to the electric catfish.
Most electric users are aquatic.
One legendary beast, however, is decidedly not aquatic.
The Mongolian Death Worm is said to be a large worm in the Gobi dessert that possesses either acid
or electricity as a means of attack.
While there is no concrete evidence that the Death Worm exists, it is almost universally accepted
and described by natives of the desert. It is another great mystery of electrical animals.
In 2007, South Korean scientists altered a cat’s DNA to make it glow in the dark
and then took that DNA and cloned other cats from it — creating a set of fluffy, fluorescent felines.
Here’s how they did it:
The researchers took skin cells from Turkish Angora female cats and used a virus to insert
genetic instructions for making red fluorescent protein.
Then they put the gene-altered nuclei into the eggs for cloning, and the cloned embryos
were implanted back into the donor cats — making the cats the surrogate mothers for their own clones.
What’s the point of creating a pet that doubles as a nightlight?
Scientists say the ability to engineer animals with fluorescent proteins will enable them to artificially
create animals with human genetic diseases.
Take a closer look at what happens to these kitties when the lights go out:
Bioluminescence is the production and emission of light by a living organism.
Bioluminescence occurs widely in marine vertebrates and invertebrates, as well as in some fungi,
microorganisms including some bioluminescent bacteria and terrestrial invertebrates such as fireflies.
Bioluminescence in some animals is produced by symbiotic organisms.
Now can someone PLEASE give me a date when they turned from GREEN to GREY?
In the 1893 article "Man of the Year Million", H. G. Wells envisaged humanity transformed into a race of grey-skinned beings, stunted and with big heads. (Compare the Morlocks of Wells's 1895 novel, The Time Machine, who appear greyish-white and large-eyed, but hairy.) In his 1901 book The First Men in the Moon, Wells described Selenites (natives of the Moon) as having grey skin, big heads, large black eyes and wasp-stings. He also briefly describes aliens resembling Greys brought down to Earth as food by the Martian antagonists of his 1898 novel The War of the Worlds.
We now have a poll on this thread for you to cast your vote on what you feel the source of these sightings in 1947 were.Good one. Should be interesting.
We now have a poll on this thread for you to cast your vote on what you feel the source of these sightings in 1947 were.
So is Maybe this Video trying to convince the viewers that it may have been a Balloon or something non UFO !...One reason being that they went to a LOT of trouble to make it appear that way IMO..as in the video there seemed a VERY Lot of foil scattered over the area that it showed and it looked VERY Silvery shiny material ,like Cooking Silver Foil...thats what stood out to me on seeing this part of the film...
Astro - Nah was nothing to do with your thread, just decided it was time to post another thread detailing the commonalities between all the reports that year.
Once again, as I have demonstrated before, the connection to Area 51 is apparent in this technology.
Craft at A51 glitter 9as seen in mine and Bob's footage), and get S
What ever it is that creates this effect, is it electrical or chemical / radiation like reactions from a combination of the E115 & Power supply ?
Wonder what Tessla would have made of it ? ???
Having looked at the footage closely for a few years now and going over what Bob said, which appears to be correct, is that this is a result of very fast HUGE electrical energy pulses.
The purpose and result of these pulses remains unknown.
Tesla would be a kid in a candy shop going over one of these things.
A51Watcher, with what you present, it should be pretty hard to deny the existence of "alien-looking bright and shiny objects" in the sky. Of course, "1947" was still pretty much in the age of primarily propeller-thrust aircraft being seen in the sky, so such objects they describe were totally foreign to their eyes!!
Assuming the reports are factual as you present, just over and over and over and over.....
...so many different people in so many different places were seeing/are seeing much the same types of things. And these various reports were coming from the east coast to the west cost of the USA, so these certainly were not just "localized sightings".
the middle of the country must be totally uninteresting to visitors..
W O W 51..
what are you writting a book or something ?
guess i'll be here awhile.. lots to read 8)
Now let's take a look at a collection of Flying Disc reports made by pilots that year -
A while back Stanton Friedman told me that Roswell was not the beginning, but actually the end of a period when Flying Discs (as they were called back then) were buzzing the entire United States continuously for an entire 2 weeks BEFORE Roswell.
He suggested I should go have a look through the newspaper microfiche archives in my area because the majority of these sightings were right in my area.
I did so and... he turned out to be 100% correct.
Every day front page headlines. I am attaching scans and text of those 2 weeks.
W O W 51..
what are you writting a book or something ?
guess i'll be here awhile.. lots to read 8)
I 2nd that SkySpace Otter !
A51 has been very busy !...
An amazing amount of material he has posted.
Upon reading the 1st post that you made on this thread ,back from Nov 13th 2011...when you were told by Stanton Friedman about the sightings 2 weeks before the Roswell incident around July 8th 1947..You said that you went to the library to check out past old newspaper articles..
Actually I remember that first visit to the library as if it were yesterday.
It was quite a shock to see so many local 'Flying Disc' reports in our daily newspapers, along with the realization that... I was the first person to see these reports in 50 years!
Portland Police See Discs Sail! ... are you kidding me?? :o
7 officers in different locations, a harbor master, entire downtown radio station staff, countless citizens and even the guy who played organ at the Oaks Amusement Park roller skating rink! LOL ;D
I actually looked over my shoulder a few times to see if any MIB's were watching me.
This was ONE secret vault that they could not control my access too!!
They had remained buried and a secret for all this time, and here I was unearthing information that the government and military would prefer that you and I did not see.
The 3 different official explanations released by the military over the years in regards to what really happened at Roswell, becomes exponentially more doubtful and ridiculous in light of the hurricane of sighting reports surrounding Roswell, before and after.
And yes we have to type them up by hand from the copies we raid from the vaults.
This information would certainly have changed the conversation in my town between skeptics and believers regarding the reality of UFO's and of the Roswell case in particular.
In fact it has had that effect, in the years since my discovery, in conversations that do arise.
Are you still doing that now or do you have other ways that you obtain the material ?
If you are obtaining it from the library.. Are you then copying / writing some of it out to post online ?
otherwise ..I am wondering HOW that you are managing to obtain the info and copy it to PRC ?
Actually I remember that first visit to the library as if it were yesterday.
It was quite a shock to see so many local 'Flying Disc' reports in our daily newspapers, along with the realization that... I was the first person to see these reports in 50 years!
Portland Police See Discs Sail! ... are you kidding me?? :o
7 officers in different locations, a harbor master, entire downtown radio station staff, countless citizens and even the guy who played organ at the Oaks Amusement Park roller skating rink! LOL ;D
I actually looked over my shoulder a few times to see if any MIB's were watching me.
This was ONE secret vault that they could not control my access too!!
They had remained buried and a secret for all this time, and here I was unearthing information that the government and military would prefer that you and I did not see.
The 3 different official explanations released by the military over the years in regards to what really happened at Roswell, becomes exponentially more doubtful and ridiculous in light of the hurricane of sighting reports surrounding Roswell, before and after.
And yes we have to type them up by hand from the copies we raid from the vaults.
This information would certainly have changed the conversation in my town between skeptics and believers regarding the reality of UFO's and of the Roswell case in particular.
In fact it has had that effect, in the years since my discovery, in conversations that do arise.
Yes to all of the above.
And as I mentioned previously and Sky alluded to, I am indeed preparing a book containing all the sightings in my database.
The trick has been in sorting the sightings into various categories of similar characteristics, many of which you see posted earlier in this thread.
This, to my eye appears to be the most effective and interesting way to view the hurricane.
The sheer volume of amazing sightings that year, with tons of corroboration for Kenneth Arnold's report as demonstrated by all the other Pilot sightings, and TS destination points indeed deserves a book of it's own to stand alongside the Roswell story.
Anytime I have an occasion to visit a city where I have not had the pleasure of raiding their library for hidden treasure, I of course make it a point to do so.
The unique wonders to be found there are always a delight.
You see each newspaper runs both local and national stories.
The national ones are provided by AP and newspapers optionally run some AP stories (or shortened versions of them) if they find them of interest.
The local stories on the other hand are not shared nationally (unless AP picks them up).
So as researchers we have no access to them until someone physically goes to the library and discovers and makes a copy of them. That is why they are unique hidden gems.
Other ongoing sources for updating my database is newspapers that have gone digital, and also search phrases entered into search engines other than google.
But actually visiting a new library is like an Indiana Jones experience. ;) 8)
I have a mental block on at the moment with the meaning of AP ? Does it mean Air force personnel ? I assume that it does not refer to the only other wording that I can see in your reply with ref to AP (Amusement Park) ;D
Anyone seen this before?i have,some numnut on tv said it was from a print of a xmas wrapping but it sure looks like laser etching and that photo came out before laser etching became a norm.
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