When Bob Lazar decided his scientific supply company should offer fuses, tubes and other "things of a fireworks nature,'' he checked first with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the FBI, the fire department and building and zoning.
They said everything was fine, so Sandia Park-based United Nuclear Scientific Equipment and Supplies — which consists of Lazar and his wife, Joy White — began selling the items.
They had no idea, Lazar said Monday, about a U.S. Consumer Products Safety Commission rule that prohibits selling items to make fireworks along with information on how to make them. Since United Nuclear's Web site contains information on "how you safely make fireworks,'' that constituted a kit under commission rules, Lazar said.
Lazar said he routinely works with federal agencies because of the nature of the scientific supply business, but he said he never heard from the commission.
The first inkling the couple had of a problem came in 2003 when Lazar and White ended up handcuffed on their front law after an early morning raid by a SWAT team, he said.
"Obviously, these guys thought something else was going on,'' he said.
Scott Wolfson, a spokesman for the Consumer Products Safety Commission in Washington, said the commission investigated, but the raid was conducted by federal law enforcement agents.
While he said he could not address the specific incident, "we know the formula that is used to make highly illegal, highly dangerous fireworks. ... We have had the experience where part of a town has had to be evacuated because of individuals stockpiling chemicals and components used to make illegal fireworks.''
In the case of United Nuclear, nothing further happened until a court hearing last Friday.
U.S. Magistrate Lorenzo Garcia fined the firm $7,500 and placed it on probation for three years. A consent decree limits the amount of fireworks-related chemicals the company can sell; prohibits sales of fuses, tubes and end caps; and requires United Nuclear to destroy remaining components and specified chemicals.
The commission's acting chairwoman, Nancy Nord, last week called the case a victory for consumer safety.
Despite that, Lazar sees the magistrate's decision as a victory for his company because the commission sought $30,000 — a $10,000 fine for each of three times the agency bought the questioned items.
"Our attorney said, 'Get real, these people have never done anything,''' Lazar said.
The commission unnecessarily spent taxpayer money and several years "for something that could have easily been taken care of with a simple phone call or visit, like every other federal agency has done with us,'' he said.
"I remain amazed to this day that that's how this went down,'' he said.
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Bob Lazar stated that the “Sport Model” Flying Disc amplified the “Strong Nuclear Force” of Element 115 (UnUnPentium or UUP) to generate the gravity field for “Space-Time Compression.” Bob also stated that the U.S. Government had 500 pounds of Element 115 in their possession. The raw Element 115 was given to the U.S. Goverment at S4 by the Reticulan EBEs in the form of discs. The scientists at S4 sent the Element 115 discs through Groom Lake to Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, to be milled for use in the Anti-Matter Reactor. The Los Alamos personnel were told it was a new form of armor. They simply followed orders, milled it in accordance with the following steps, and sent it back to Groom Lake. It was during this process that some of the Element 115 turned up missing. As you’ll see below, the machining process to form the Element 115 wedge produces a tremendous amount of waste.
This latest scientific breakthrough, however, provides significant credibility to Bob Lazar’s claims rather than discrediting his claims. Bob Lazar’s Element 115 discs used to make the wedge for the “Sport Model” Flying Disc Anti-Matter Reactor would have to have been the isotope of Element 115 containing the magic number of 184 neutrons, therefore, having an atomic mass of 299. The nuclear configuration of this isotope of Element 115 would be identical to the nuclear configuration of the only known stable isotope of Element 83, Bismuth, 83Bi209, containing the magic number of 126 neutrons, except that the Element 115 isotope would have one more energy level completely filled with protons and neutrons. 82 protons and 114 protons are magic numbers for protons because 82 protons completely fill 6 proton energy levels and 114 protons completely fill 7 proton energy levels. The 83rd proton for Bismuth is a lone proton in the 7th proton energy level and the 115th proton for Element 115 is the lone proton in the 8th proton energy level. 126 neutrons completely fill 7 neutron energy levels and 184 neutrons completely fill 8 neutron energy levels. Refer to the Nucleon Energy Level Table for Bismuth and Element 115, below, for the nuclear configurations of Bismuth and Element 115. This stable isotope of Bismuth, Element 83, has very unique gravitational characteristics. Refer to the Henry William Wallace Patent: U.S. Patent 3,626,605, “Method and Apparatus for Generating a Secondary Gravitational Force Field.”
As the intensity of the gravitational field around the disc increases, the distortion of space/time around the disc also increases. If you could see the space/time distortion, which we can't, this is how it would look.
As the gravitational field from the amplifiers becomes more intense, the form of the space/time around the disc not only bends upward, but at maximum distortion, actually folds over into almost a heart shape around the top of the disc.
This space/time distortion is taking place 360 degrees around the disc, creating a volume of distortion, so if you were looking at the disc from the top, the space/time distortion would be in the shape of a donut as it enclosed the disc.
When the gravitational field around the disc is so intense that the space/time around the disc achieves maximum distortion, the disc can't be seen from any vantage point and, for all practical purposes, is invisible. All you would se would be the sky around it.
At various angles prior to the disc achieving maximum distortion, the disc could be visible from one vantage point and not another. All you could see would be the environment around it. This is similar to being able to see stars that are behind the sun, due to the intense gravity of the sun bending the light path between the star and earth.
Essentially, this creates a sort of space-time bubble around the craft. "Maximum distortion" is not necessary for standard flight over the surface of a planet. Except in the case of rapid "streaks" across the sky. Maximum distortion is essential for this mode of travel. The typical fire light comet in the night sky is not the craft, but rather the air around the craft ionizing and trailing it.
~ Bob Lazar
Russian scientists have made a new super-heavy element in the lab that does not exist in nature. But what is really remarkable is that this collection of protons and neutrons stayed together for about 30 seconds before starting to decay.
Such giant elements are usually highly unstable and decay with half-lives that can be measured in milliseconds or less.
The new addition to the periodic table has the atomic number 114 - that is to say, it has 114 protons. The scientists working at the Flerov Laboratory of Nuclear Reactions in Dubna made two isotopes of the element. One had 175 neutrons, the other had 173.
By comparison, the heaviest element found in nature - in sizeable quantities - is the most common form of uranium. This contains just 92 protons and 146 neutrons.
Artificial elements can only be synthesized in nuclear reactors or particle accelerators. In this case, the isotopes were created by bombarding targets of plutonium with beams of calcium ions.
'Island of stability'
It has been a good year for scientists working in this field. The Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California announced in June that they had forged the heaviest element yet, 118, and when it decayed, it morphed into element 116, then an isotope of 114 with even fewer neutrons than Dubna's.
For more than 30 years physicists have predicted that there probably exists an "island of stability" for nuclei with around 184 neutrons - isotopes that would not disappear almost as soon as they are created. Calculations suggest that isotopes on this island could, theoretically, have half-lives measurable in years.
The new Russian isotopes, with 173 and 175 neutrons and half-lives measured in seconds, appears to confirm the theory.
Scientists cannot make anything with these artificial elements. But they do provide valuable insights into the structure of atomic nuclei.
Anyone interested in knowing what element 114 will be called may have to wait a while. The international committee responsible for naming process can take several years before reaching a decision.
The new research has been published in the journal Nature.
NB: The paper reporting the discovery of element 118 was formally retracted by its authors in 2002. The retraction followed an investigation into alleged scientific misconduct by one of the authors, Victor Ninov.
Researchers at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in the US have retracted their claim to have discovered element 118. The retraction follows more detailed analysis of the original data at Berkeley and the failure of experiments at Berkeley, the RIKEN laboratory in Japan, and the GSI laboratory in Germany to observe the element.
In 1999 a team of researchers from the Berkeley lab, the University of California at Berkeley and Oregon State University claimed to have detected three atoms of element 118 in collisions between high-energy krypton ions and a lead target. "The observation of a chain of six high-energy alpha decays within about one second unambiguously signalled the production and decay of element 118" said team leader Ken Gregorich at the time. Element 118 was then the heaviest element to have been detected.
In a brief statement submitted to Physical Review Letters, which published the paper reporting the original discovery, the Berkeley team write: "Prompted by the absence of similar decay chains in subsequent experiments, we (along with independent experts) re-analyzed the primary data files from our 1999 experiments. Based on these re-analyses, we conclude that the three reported chains are not in the 1999 data. We retract our published claim for the synthesis of element 118."
"Science is self-correcting," said Berkeley director Charles Shank. "If you get the facts wrong, your experiment is not reproducible. There are many lessons here, and the lab will extract all the value it can from this event. The path forward is to learn from the mistakes and to strengthen the resolve to find the answers that nature still hides from us."
Never before seen footage of the sentencing of Physicist Robert Lazar in a Nevada court in 1999. Listen carefully to the judge's comments regarding this case. Most interesting.
George Knapp and Bob Lazar briefly discuss Bob's missing school and employment records. Two specific places which claimed to have no information or records of any Robert Lazar were the Los Alamos National Laboratory and EG&GSOURCE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vNMmB70y4Q&feature=player_embedded
Gene Huff's Response to "Lazar Theory #1"
Recently, the following post was made by Glenn Campbell, known to most of you as "Goober". A recent assassination of Goober by an anonymous person on the Internet has been attributed to me and has been alleged to be my response to this recent posting. That is not true and I'll go into that in another post. However, here is my actual response to the post by Goober.
I don't think I necessarily need to respond to every line so I'll just cut in and out to the important points. What everyone must realize is that posts like this are nothing new to the net. This is simply one of those fishing trips in which someone posts lies and then waits for someone to respond with the actual, true, information so they can then adjust their info and use it in a book or an article they intend to write down the road.
If you'll notice, Goober says this is "one" possible scenario, not "the" scenario, meaning there are more to come. I have no intention of playing that game, but I'll respond to this one so you can see how the fishing trip works. Keep it in mind as this won't happen again. The only reason Goober even started this attack is because the kids who run the Tri-Dot web page have been implying that they're going to post something about Goober being a paid government liar. I don't think he is that.
"As a "librarian" for the UFO field (through the Ufomind website), it is not my job to make conclusions."
Notice he starts out with a hallucination.
"Instead I simply collect the relevant documents and let others draw conclusions from them. I can, however, propose theories and draw attention to specific earthly facts that are beyond doubt."
Keep this statement in mind as we proceed. There are no documents even remotely involved here.
"his (Lazar's) story isn't worth my own time to further investigate."
If Lazar's story isn't worth the time to further investigate, what is Goober doing writing the first of a series of articles about it? The real reason is that Lazar is the hottest topic in ufology and the most highly sought ufological interview in the world. Goober has tried to stop that with deception but, fortunately for those seeking the truth, no one listens. He wants to divert attention from himself at this moment, for reasons you all know. Generally, he wants the attention that is Lazar's and he perpetually covets that notoriety.
"Lazar made up the story on his own based on his own significant technical knowledge, his peripheral work with a contractor on the Nellis Range and the prior Area 51 alien claims of John Lear (aliens eating humans in a vast underground base), which Lazar "cleaned up" and made more plausible."
Notice that in this scenario, Lazar has significant technical knowledge and had peripheral work with a contractor on the Nellis Range. Quite interesting for a guy with no education and no credentials as Goober has alleged in the past.
"According to this theory, Area "S-4" is a corruption of "Site 4", a real Top Secret radar installation northwest of Area 51 (not south at Papoose Lake). It was a place that no one could talk about in 1989 because purloined Soviet radar were tested there. Lazar has probably never been to Site 4, but he could have heard the name."
Please! I was the first one to audibilize (actually type) the fact that there was more than one S4 on the Nellis Range and that it was known as Site 4, not S4, and Glenn Campbell knows that. Now I can't say that neither Tom Mahood nor Glenn Campbell had ever heard this as I can't know what goes on in their empty little heads, but if Goober honestly did not know this, then you'll have to check with Mahood. I don't really even recall if it was on Usenet or in email, but if you cancheck with Mahood and catch him on one of those rare occasions he tells the truth, I'm sure he'll confirm that this is true. Campbell is acting as though Site 4 is a name Lazar may have heard of. Site 4 is a place Goober may have heard of, from me. I'll take a polygraph if necessary to prove that is true. Bob Lazar, and all of his many friends knew of Site 4 a half decade before Goober escaped out here to Nevada. If Lazar had "corrupted" Site 4 into S4, don't you think that people like myself, Joe Vaninetti, (A friend of Lazar's who worked with Lazar at Los Alamos and who also did work for Los Alamos out here at Yucca Flats on the Nevada Test Site), and Jim Tagliani, (a friend of Lazar's who worked out at the Tonopah Test Range when the Stealth Fighters were there) would have noticed? If this was a giant conspiracy and a big lie, wouldn't we have told Bob to change the S4 name because of that? This is ludicrous, even for Goober.
"What was Lazar's motivation? Money."
Bob Lazar's father is a wealthy Los Angeles businessman and Bob has had a standing offer to work for/with him in California anytime he wants, and at a helluva (six figure) salary. Lazar stayed with science because it's his love and that devotion resulted in him being part of the ET disc back engineering team.
"Under Theory #1, Lazar cooked up the story to obtain funding from Las Vegas philanthropist Robert Bigelow, who was known to sponsor far-out projects. (Bigelow is still investing millions in parapsychology and UFO research but is intensely secretive about his activities.)"
Lie. I defy any of you to name one project that Bob Bigelow was known to have funded prior to Bob Lazar going public. What's that I hear, silence? Goober is trying to twist the facts here. Bigelow was only known post Lazar. Bigelow might have been known in real estate development circles back then, but not in ufology. Bob Bigelow first met Bob Lazar after he saw George Knapp's UFOs, The Best Evidence on television. He saw that I was a real estate appraiser and called my office. He explained that he was simply a money man and wanted to get involved with any sort of research. Ultimately we met with him and things proceeded from there. It is true that Bigelow has since invested big bucks in a wide range of projects. If there were any prior to Lazar, don't you think Campbell would have mentioned them? There simply weren't any and Campbell knows that. If Bigelow was unknown, and he was unknown, how would Lazar have known about him? This is beneath even Goober. I can take a polygraph lest anyone think I'm not truthful about Bigelow.
"In fact, Bigelow did set up a Nevada corporation for Lazar, the Zeta Reticuli 2 Corp., shortly after Lazar went public. It was apparently created to fund Lazar's research into "Element 115," which Lazar initially claimed he had samples of. (The government has since "taken them back."
And exactly how was it "apparently" to fund research into element 115? Have any of you seen Campbell provide any evidence of this? Where's all of this paperwork he directed your attention to earlier in this article? I'll show you some. Since MaWoody and Goober (Mahood and Campbell)seem to think that this is so intriguing, I'm going to do those of you on the net a favor. I'm going to actually post, with Bob Lazar's permission, the actual patent application from that research. It was not for particle beam weapons like Mahood alleges, it was not for 115 research like Campbell alleges. Just wait, and you can take a look for yourselves. I'll provide the paperwork to reality, not Campbell. He talks a good game, but I'll produce. There's a difference. However, it makes this fishing trip more successful for him, but I'll do it for those interested in the truth.
"While the existence of the corporation is a matter of public record, we do not know how much Bigelow spent. We do know that the project did not last long, and that Bigelow felt somehow burned by Lazar (according to sources who have known Bigelow)."
Yes, of course, unknown sources who have known Bigelow. How convenient. Don't these sources still know Bigelow or did they burn him, too? Well here's a source who witnessed the whole thing and I am known and I know Lazar and Bigelow. The actual story of how things broke down would be so humiliating to Bigelow that I won't waste it on the net, I'll save it for the book. However, Bigelow more or less just rented the warehouse space as most of the equipment moved there was Lazar's. Bigelow did buy 2 computers and a YAG rod, (Yttrium, Aluminum, Garnet) for a laser, but that was about it. Lazar was not given any large chunks of money but was paid a very modest salary for which Bigelow was very demanding. Bigelow's background is in construction and Real Estate development, (He was actually an appraiser a long time ago) and he's used to timetables being kept, etc. Research and Development does not always go that smooth and Mr. Bigs gets easily frustrated when he doesn't get his way. Stanton Friedman agrees with that after having associated with Bigelow.
"Under this theory, Lear, Gene Huff, George Knapp and other supporters were patsies, not co-conspirators. They were tools used by Lazar in pursuit of Bigelow, and later they were his defenders and his protection against having to answer too many questions."
Lazar has not only answered "too many questions" but submitted to two different polygraph sessions by two different polygraphers, gave former NASA robotics expert Bob Oechsler, written, notorized permission for Oechsler to check out Lazar's IRS and Social Security records to prove that he was paid by the Navy, etc. Most of this was right after Lazar went public and George Knapp didn't know Lazar from Adam. The only patsies here are those who read Goober's gibberish and accumulate a knowledge base of nonsense. Not too mention that no one had ever heard of Bigelow.
By the way, Oechsler found out that Lazar's IRS and FICA files were classified. Quite unusual for a guy who is being accused of making up a UFO story, don't you think? Oechsler also found out that the E6722MAJ on Lazar's W-2 (that's from memory so I might have misstated a letter or number there) meant that this code meant Department of Energy, Kirtland Air Force Base, and the point of contact was MAJ, (yes, we're back to the Majestic codes). This was eight years ago and Lazar has answered more questions than anyone in ufology, period.
"The government itself was taken by surprise by Lazar's claims. It may have indeed conducted its own investigation to see if any classified information was release (since Lazar did have a security clearance). Real FBI agents like "Mike Thigpin" could have visited Lazar. Recall that in 1989, the Cold War was not yet over, and secrecy at Area 51 was still extreme."
Really? And how does Goober know Lazar had a security clearance? Where's the paper trail? He heard me, Knapp, or maybe even Lazar himself say that and has not checked out or verified one thing. I point this out to simply show that Goober hasn't substantiated anything positive or negative about Lazar. The man's name was Mike Thigpen, not Thigpin, and he was an OFI agent, not an FBI agent. The OFI is a pseudo-secret organization that is involved in background checks of people who get high clearances at the Nevada Test Site, Nellis Test Range (and elsewhere I presume). They have a local Las Vegas office, though they're not listed in the phone book, and are based out of the Office of Personnel Management back in Pennsylvania. Sorry to throw so many facts into Goober's stupid little story.
"Lazar, however, has never been to Area 51. I can say this with confidence after talking to people who have. While no one can say whether Lazar has ever been to Papoose Lake, which is still a closed area, the claim that he had flew to Area 51 enroute to Papoose should have been easily provable. Lazar should be able to describe innocuous details of the place, like what the cafeteria or plane arrival area looked like. Lazar has never done this, even though he supposedly revealed much bigger secrets."
What?! Not only did Lazar identify where the cafeteria was, he identified where the vending machines and television(s) in the cafeteria were. Do you think George Knapp honestly never asked these questions or tried to double check or verify this information? Goober must be crazy.
However, Bob Lazar is no authority on Area 51 as he didn't work there. The only time he went to the cafeteria was when he was taken there to wait on his first night out there, the night they made all of the security threats to him. After that, Lazar was simply transferred to the bus with the blacked out windows and taken down to S4. In fact, he identified that he was at Papoose by using estimated speed, the time on his watch, and direction, meaning the glow of the setting sun over the mountains to the west, to figure out that he was at Papoose. The base was only known as S4, they didn't call it Papoose. Of course the actual determining factor of his assessment of the location of S4 was by the size of the dry lake bed outside of the hangars.
George Knapp was a news anchor at the KLAS, the Las Vegas CBS affiliate, at this point in time and had, and has, many great contacts with people who have worked at A-51 in varying capacities from executives to laborers. Questioning Lazar about area 51 was one of the first things he did. Goober could have asked and found this out, presuming he doesn't actually know it, and I would find that hard to believe, but he did not ask. He lies and thus the fishing trip. Is everybody having fun? The bottom line is, not fishing line, that Lazar was usually at area51 when it was dusk or dark and he is by no stretch of the imagination an authority on where all of the buildings and hangars are. However, he did identify the obvious, years ago and to say that he has not is a complete bullshit story and Campbell knows that.
"Some former Area 51 workers have seen so little of their workplace that they cannot completely dismiss the Lazar claims, but they do know the cafeteria. One former Area 51 worker who has queried Lazar on these questions regards him as evasive. There is no doubt in his mind that Lazar is a fraud."
Right. Another anonymous, alleged, informant who has questioned Lazar. What's his name? What's wrong with letting it be known that he questioned Lazar, especially if Lazar gave the wrong answer? I can answer that. This informant doesn't exist. There is no doubt in this alleged anonymous person's mind that Lazar is a fraud. How convenient. He's unknown to everyone else, but Goober knows him and he agrees with Goober! What a surprise! Did he submit to a polygraph? Lazar did. Lazar correctly answered the area51 questions and this has been confirmed. People who read Goober seem to think that Lazar walks around answering test questions for complete strangers. Would any of you do that? Without knowing who they were or why they wanted to talk to you? Of course not, but you exist in reality and the informant and these alleged questions do not.
"The "Element 115" claim could have come from contemporary articles on exotic elements, such as one in Scientific American in May 1989. Like Papoose Lake, Lazar's claims about Element 115 can not be disproven because no one has been there."
Wait a minute. Lazar told me, Lear, Vaninetti, Tagliani, their wives and all of their girlfriends and the rest of our social circle about 115 long before May of 1989. It doesn't wash Goob.
"I don't mean "fraud" in any negative sense, however."
Of course not. Why would anyone think that Goober lying and erroneously calling Lazar a fraud would be negative?!:) What he means is that if he keeps lying and twisting what little he knows, you might not keep buying his Lazar products.
"For one thing he made Area 51 the most popular secret base in the world."
Wow! For the first time ever, Goober admits that Lazar made area51 famous, not him! Maybe Goober takes short vacations into reality after all.
"In a sense, Lazar's story is a lot deeper than he is."
Of course, Goober doesn't know Bob Lazar at all and has no idea how deep or shallow he might be. He'd like you to think he's providing insight, instead of bullshit.
"Fraud thrives in conditions of secrecy, like that found at Area 51 or in the Bigelow organization."
Well, we all know Goober's a fraud and he's the type that thrives via area 51, but maybe he could give us examples of how fraud thrives in the Bigelow organization. No, on second thought, he can't think that fast. He already told us he doesn't know anything about Bigelow. Bigelow isn't all that secretive, but he only talks to intellectuals and players, not the riff-raff like Goober.
"It also thrives where people want to believe something really badly. Clever con men are opportunists who exploit self-deceptions that already exist. They exploit existing beliefs and real circumstances to serve their own needs, and they tell the believers exactly what they want to hear."
You mean like a con man who moves from Boston to the Nevada desert to exploit literally everyone and everything? This is the absolute most explicit description of Glenn Campbell/Goober that I've ever read. Here he is, flaunting it in your faces while laughing at you behind your backs and you can't see it.
"(I should note, however, that my own interest in the Lazar story brought me to Nevada in 1992 and lead me to my current career as a "UFO webmaster." Lazar inspired me with his stick-to-the-facts demeanor in interviews, which I still find impressive and have tried to emulate. As an unofficial spokesman for Area 51, I have probably done things that have given Lazar more credibility than he deserves, like not dismissing on camera, but I have no regrets about leaving the door open. True or false, I feel the Lazar story has enriched my life in many interesting ways.)"
Yes, of course. The reason Lazar has credibility is because an unknown like Campbell doesn't dismiss Lazar on camera. Thanks Goob! You're so kind. Maybe Lazar will send you a thank you note. Those of you reading this should keep Campbell's above paragraph in mind when you read my commentary in another post about the recent assassination of Goober on the Internet. Remember, he moved here because of Lazar and tries to emulate Lazar and says Lazar has enriched his life. How many of you can say something that is that sad and simultaneously that sick and keep a straight face?:) None of you, I hope.
"I am not saying that anyone can "prove" Theory #1. There will always be ways for believers to believe. But of the theories currently available, this is the one that best fits the facts."
Maybe Goober could summarize those facts for us as I haven't seen any. Lazar has a wealthy father, Bigelow was unknown, Lazar identified area 51, or what he saw of it which included the cafeteria, precisely, etc.
The only facts in this post are from me.
"This theory raises logical questions that any journalist could ask Lazar, like: "When you got off the plane at Area 51, what did you see?" But no unbiased journalist has gotten close to Lazar in years."
Unbiased is the key word here. You see for Goober to be the authority George Knapp would have to be to close to Lazar to detach and ask the tough questions. Knapp did that, almost a decade ago, and Lazar passed with flying colors. Lazar did an interview, in Mike Lindemann's book, where another physicist who worked at the Stanford Linear accelerator was present. Lazar met, an talked at length, with Dr. Edgar Mitchell, astronaut and sixth man on the moon with a Ph.D. in aeronautics and astronautics. Lazar took a polygraph. Lazar gave Oechsler permission to check his records. Lazar has met with numerous people throughout the years, professionals and amateurs, and he's answered all of the tough questions, tougher than Goober can think of.
"Lazar and his story may still have a lot to teach us about the UFO field, but it isn't the lesson Lazar intended."
Wrong. It is specifically the lesson that Lazar intended and Goober has no insight as to what that is. The lesson is that in the late 1980s the U.S. government was back engineering ET craft at a base known as S4 in south central Nevada, a half decade +or- before Goober arrived.
As you can see Goober Campbell provided no paperwork, no names, and only alleged facts based on things he can't tell you. Well, take a look at the post named "lazar/Bigelow Patent" or something to that effect and see the patent filed by Bigelow and Lazar. It'll be coming right after I post this.
As the hallucinating, self professed UFO librarian and unofficial spokesperson for Area 51, he has said nothing and offered nothing. See my "Trials and Tribulations of Goober" post for my commentary on his recent net/legal problems.