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Title: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: sky otter on January 30, 2012, 11:43:50 am
 :(..well somebody has to show me how to get vids that aren't from you tube to play..
the vid is more interesting than the written word in this story

(http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/13/55/53/83/slide_10.jpg)

UFO Found In Baltic Sea? (VIDEO)
.First Posted: 01/30/2012 11:58 am Updated: 01/30/2012 12:14 pm

A team of shipwreck hunters that found a strange circular object on the floor of the Baltic Sea in 2011 now says they have discovered visual evidence of a second "disc-like shape" some 200 meters from the original find, CNN reports.

Peter Lindberg, who leads the group, previously joked to CNN that the first object they found 300 feet below the surface might be an unidentified flying object.

When the object, which has a diameter of 195 feet, was first discovered in June of last year, many believers thought it was a wrecked UFO that had crashed onto the seafloor and left behind a path of destruction measuring some 900 feet,
according to News.co.au

Cylon Raider or algae? Swedish booze hunters may have made the UFO find of the century (http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech/cylon-raider-or-algae-swedish-booze-hunters-may-have-made-the-ufo-find-of-the-century/story-fn5fsgyc-1226098833887)

(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2011/07/21/1226098/833235-baltic-ufo.jpg)

and Cnn explains how the team discovered the find

Ancient UFO Relics In Baltic Sea? 2012

[youtube]73SVXSiEE5U[/youtube]

Original CNN Link (http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/28/world/europe/swedish-shipwreck-hunters/index.html?hpt=hp_t3)

The imaging technique involves pulling a sonar "towfish" -- that essentially looks sideways underwater -- behind a boat, where it creates sound echoes to map the sea floor below.
The team is waiting until the spring to further investigate their intriguing discovery.

According to Yahoo News, the Baltic Sea is a hotbed for salvaged items.

"Right now, we know about 20,000 objects, mostly shipwrecks, in the Baltic Sea. But I think there may be more than 100,000," sonar expert Ardreas Olsson told Yahoo News. "I'm not sure what you will see when you go down. But I'm excited. It's going to be interesting to see what it is."pics and vid at link
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/30/ufo-found-in-baltic-sea-update_n_1241646.html?ref=weird-news#s648718&title=Sunken_Ship_in

Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Dalbeck on February 14, 2012, 01:32:28 am
Me, being a Star Wars fan, got excited seeing the Millenium Falcon laying on the ground of the Baltic Sea :D

Who knows what's under the water....
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: WeekendWarrior on February 14, 2012, 04:46:02 am
Me, being a Star Wars fan, got excited seeing the Millenium Falcon laying on the ground of the Baltic Sea :D

Who knows what's under the water....
Heh, it really reminds of Millenium Falcon. But if its really something worthy, I bet its not even there anymore next spring, as the "bad guys" has taken care of it. Im afraid..
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on February 14, 2012, 07:30:05 am
Talked to a friend in Istanbul, today, and he seems to think the object has been identified as a piece of a desalination machine that fell off a ship in a storm. he says the locals have been talking about it for a while, and they call it the Millenium Falcon, too! LOL!
At any rate, if it is something other than that, it might be the find that strips the layers of secrecy form the nations' governments, and they will have to admit there are UFOs(or at least were)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on February 15, 2012, 09:17:02 am
After a few days of deeper research, my friend in Istanbul is backing off of his Desalination plant equipment story, I thought it was a bit big for something like that at 195 feet dia, and told him I disagreed with his assessment of the find. He still thinks it fell off of a ship, though.LOL!
It really looks to me, after further examination, like one of the structures found in South Africa near the gold mines. The small offshoot is a feature that turns up in the theme of these structures quite often, and the round shape is an indicator of such, as well.
The only weird thing about that idea is, why it is still visible on the bottom, when it was built over 20,000 years ago?
If the bottom shifted due to some seismic activity, it could also be a collapsed roof of an ancient structure.
We would love to find a UFO, but that wouldnt do much for us that already know they exist, because we would never hear another word about it, once it was salvaged, and the tech gleaned would be top frickin' secret!
Cheers!
Littleenki
There could be a whole city down there for all they know.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2012, 03:14:49 am
Sorry only Youtube videos will play in the forum. Code can be set to allow other media but that opens the door to malicious uploads

However any video out there usually has a Youtube version.

Ocean Explorer team news 2011-07-13

[youtube]hdF3AETQDBQ[/youtube]

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/80bb40f5d31f.jpg)

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The Ocean Explorer team conducted between 11/6-19/6 2011 together with Franskabolaget.com a search expedition to find more of the sunken treasures of the Sea of Bothnia (northern Baltic Sea). The treasures consits of alcoholic beverages such as Champagne, Wine and Cognac laying in the holds of small Swedish mechant ships sunken by the germans during the first world war. The most famous wreck so far is with out doubt the small ketch "Jönköping" which was sunken on the 3 November 1916 by the German Uboat U 22 with 3000 bottles of Heidsieck & Co MONOPOLE Gôut Américain champagne from 1907, and 67 barrels of Bisquite & Duboché Cognac, each barrel containing 600 litres in her holds. Some of the champagne bottles has been sold for as much as EUR 20 000 per bottle. 

This years first search/salvage expedition was granted with for the season terrible weather which did the search nearly impossible and is a reason why the Ocean Explorer team will continue the search for the "fluid gold" later during this summer.  However, on the 19 June a very strange anomaly was found during a sonar survey of the sea floor. Peter Lindberg, the initiator of the expeditions, says that he has never seen anything like it even if he has spent hundreds of hours watching sonar images of the sea floor, "it's up to the rest of the world to decide what it is" he says. "It is not in our sphere of interest to go for this object since the cost for each hour out on the sea are tremendous" he says, "Since it might be nothing we can not afford spending funds just to have a look at it, even if it might be a "new" Stonehenge standing on the bottom.

http://www.oceanexplorer.se/
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2012, 03:20:17 am
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Originally posted by OneEleven
But when the man in charge of recognizing outcropping of rock says it isn't an outcropping of rock, i've gotta listen...

The man is charge says...

"It is not in our sphere of interest to go for this object since the cost for each hour out on the sea are tremendous" he says, "Since it might be nothing we can not afford spending funds just to have a look at it, even if it might be a "new" Stonehenge standing on the bottom.

Stonehenge is an outcropping of rock... albeit placed by man

Quote
Originally posted by UniqueUsername23456
Anyone else notice that is UFO-like object resembles the other UFO-like objects seen during the NASA tether incident?

Looks more lie depressions in the ground to me

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9355d84c3817.png)

Not sure what is up with these... live footage of the expedition

Baltic sea film UFO ? 11 juni 19 juni 2011 part 1 off 2

[youtube]8cIMMAJsihQ[/youtube]

Baltic sea film UFO ? 11 juni 19 juni 2011 part 2 off 2

[youtube]FVV9DzZMUXc[/youtube]

Strange anomaly was found during a sonar UFO or stonehenge standing on the bottom ?

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Peter Lindberg,? says that he has never seen anything like it even if he has spent hundreds of hours watching sonar images of the sea floor, "it's up to the rest of the world to decide what it is" he says. "It is not in our sphere of interest to go for this object since the cost for each hour out on the sea are tremendous" he says, "Since it might be nothing we can not afford spending funds just to have a look at it, even if it might be a "new" Stonehenge standing on the bottom.

[youtube]jwHE5816_XY[/youtube]

So I figured if they were not interested they could give us the coordinates, right?

 ::)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2012, 03:23:32 am
Update from the man himself:

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Peter Lindberg "Ok folks here are some relevant information; We will equipe the ROV with a real time 3D-sonar so we can get really nice images at close range. To get a more overwiew image we will use a multibeam sonar and an ordinary side scan sonar. We will have divers with rebreather equipment with us but they will be sent down as a last option. We have also thought about geiger-equipment. But right now there is not enough funds so we can proceed, we working on it though" 

do you have any particular time frame for this exploration ? 

Peter Lindberg "Before the end of september at the latest because of the autumn weather"  July 27 2011

via hid FB Account (http://www.facebook.com/groups/178384865554985/?ap=1)

So anyone here have a Facebook Account to go talk to him?

 ::)

Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2012, 03:30:40 am
Baltic Sea ‘UFO’ Back in Mainstream News – Photos, Videos
January 26, 2012


(http://deathby1000papercuts.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Mystery-Object-Baltic-Sea.png)

The proposed date for a return to the Baltic Sea to ‘salvage’ the mystery object, May 2012.

Baltic Sea ‘UFO’ Back in Mainstream News (http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2012/01/baltic-sea-ufo-back-in-mainstream-news-photos-videos/)

From Russian TV
Crashed UFO in the Baltic Sea, June 19 2011


[youtube]3lfrj-AflYU[/youtube]
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2012, 03:54:55 am
Thanks for dragging this up :D I forgot about that thread. There were so many threads on it and everyone just saying "Its already been done, use search" that in the noise they missed the SECOND Object that was found.

The CN report mentions it but there is no picture of it yet

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Using side-scan sonar, the team found a 60-meter diameter cylinder-shaped object, with a rigid tail 400 meters long.

The imaging technique involves pulling a sonar "towfish" -- that essentially looks sideways underwater - behind a boat, where it creates sound echoes to map the sea floor below.

On another pass over the object, the sonar showed a second disc-like shape 200 meters away.

Shipwreck hunters stumble across mysterious find (http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/28/world/europe/swedish-shipwreck-hunters/index.html?hpt=hp_t3)

Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on February 17, 2012, 10:11:56 am
I'm thinkin'...  Though it may have flown in the past, technically, it is a USO.  [grin]
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on February 17, 2012, 03:55:15 pm
Second 'sunken UFO' claim doesn't really hold water

A flying saucer skidding on seafloor? More exploration, better equipment may explain mystery

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Lindberg told Life's Little Mysteries, "I confirm that we have found two anomalies. We did find the other anomaly approximately 200 meters (about 219 yards) from the circular find at the same sonar run." Lindberg explained why his team had not released the sonar image of the second object: "We decided not to expose that anomaly so much because there is a lot of disturbance on the sonar image when we passed it, so it's very blurry. We can see it's something but to an untrained eye it might just look like 'pea soup.'"

Second 'sunken UFO' claim doesn't really hold water (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46226992/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/second-sunken-ufo-claim-doesnt-really-hold-water#.Tz7ZKuzueuI) - MS-NBC News

Looks like mainstream media also copies entire articles :P  Original is here...

Second 'Sunken UFO' Claim Doesn't Hold Water
Benjamin Radford, Life's Little Mysteries Contributor
Date: 01 February 2012 Time: 01:35 PM ET


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While experts speculated that the object was just a glitch in the team's sonar, new reports surfaced this week that the team uncovered a second, similar object nearby. But, as the report hopped from one website to the next, one thing was missing: an image of the second object. Life's Little Mysteries contacted Peter Lindberg, who led the expedition, to get the full story, and the elusive sonar scan

(http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/images/i/1447/original/OceanX-anomaly-2-a.jpg)
A second object discovered on the floor of the Baltic Sea by Peter Lindberg.
CREDIT: Peter Lindberg, oceanexplorer.se

Second 'Sunken UFO' Claim Doesn't Hold Water (http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/2119-baltic-sunken-ufo-image.html) - Life's Little Mysteries


See? Now we have a picture because someone on a blog contacted the team and asked :D  Then Main Stream Media picked it up from them. This is where we need to be... ;)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/Baltic_002.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/Baltic_001.png)

Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: hobbit on February 17, 2012, 04:05:00 pm
I once went swimming in the Baltic ocean with porpoises, and millions of jelly fish.
The gulf stream flows from the gulf of Mexico to the baltic( which the eels know full well)
I wonder what may be on the sea floor near Andros Island????
Anode....cathode.
I wonder what makes the gulf stream follow a certain route???
If I knew, and knew how to utilse such....where would I go?
Maybe I do know ...in the future.
hobbit
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on February 17, 2012, 05:04:08 pm
On that sonar pic:  This is what I saw first:

A cat-like being.  Paradeilo-wazzit?  (Can't remember the word off hand.)

Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on February 17, 2012, 07:50:42 pm
Second 'sunken UFO' claim doesn't really hold water

A flying saucer skidding on seafloor? More exploration, better equipment may explain mystery

Second 'sunken UFO' claim doesn't really hold water (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46226992/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/second-sunken-ufo-claim-doesnt-really-hold-water#.Tz7ZKuzueuI) - MS-NBC News

Looks like mainstream media also copies entire articles :P  Original is here...

Second 'Sunken UFO' Claim Doesn't Hold Water
Benjamin Radford, Life's Little Mysteries Contributor
Date: 01 February 2012 Time: 01:35 PM ET


(http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/images/i/1447/original/OceanX-anomaly-2-a.jpg)
A second object discovered on the floor of the Baltic Sea by Peter Lindberg.
CREDIT: Peter Lindberg, oceanexplorer.se

Second 'Sunken UFO' Claim Doesn't Hold Water (http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/2119-baltic-sunken-ufo-image.html) - Life's Little Mysteries


See? Now we have a picture because someone on a blog contacted the team and asked :D  Then Main Stream Media picked it up from them. This is where we need to be... ;)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/Baltic_002.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/Baltic_001.png)
Hey Zorgon, this is a great example of puttin your nose to the grindstone!
That second object got my nutter mind going, and I thought it would be possible that they had shot each other down, or had a midair collision, but after a bit of Photoshopping, the second object is definitely a statue of a thin figure, with his left hand to his mouth, speaking loudly, or doing something with his face or hair. That blue spot is creepy, too, and it reminds me of a spot I saw in a dolmen photo from the UK, like an energy source, or a big piece of lapis that we know the "gods" cherished.
I hope somebodt gets down there fast, before the storms and currents cover, or damage it anymore.
Cheers!
Littleenki
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: WeekendWarrior on February 18, 2012, 02:40:14 pm
Talked to a friend in Istanbul, today, and he seems to think the object has been identified as a piece of a desalination machine that fell off a ship in a storm. he says the locals have been talking about it for a while, and they call it the Millenium Falcon, too! LOL!
At any rate, if it is something other than that, it might be the find that strips the layers of secrecy form the nations' governments, and they will have to admit there are UFOs(or at least were)

Hi! I watched photos of desalination machine and it doesnt look at all like one of those, exept if its a desalination power plant, and ships dont carry those..at least I think so. Hmm.. maybe its some secret underwater plant or something.. ;)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on February 18, 2012, 09:57:47 pm
Yeah, I didnt think his idea was too valid, either, but he is right there, so ...
The piece he talked about was a stirring basin that was for separating solids from the seawater before intake. It is a 110 foot diameter lightweight piece when assembled, but I pointed out to him that was one big piece of equipment to haul on the deck of a ship, but he says he has seen it done, where it overlaps the gunwales by twenty feet on each side. That's nuts I told him!
 I still think it's an artifact of a sunken civilization or something like that.
we'll see!
Cheers!
Littleenki
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: WeekendWarrior on February 19, 2012, 01:35:59 pm
Yeah, I didnt think his idea was too valid, either, but he is right there, so ...
The piece he talked about was a stirring basin that was for separating solids from the seawater before intake. It is a 110 foot diameter lightweight piece when assembled, but I pointed out to him that was one big piece of equipment to haul on the deck of a ship, but he says he has seen it done, where it overlaps the gunwales by twenty feet on each side. That's nuts I told him!
 I still think it's an artifact of a sunken civilization or something like that.
we'll see!
Cheers!
Littleenki

Yeah mate, its certainly not impossible to haul something that size in the sea, but its just a gut feeling its something else  :)
Oh, and wasn't there an article saying there were something else special near that area also? I remember reading in some newspaper, but dont recall wich was it..
I just hope whatever it is, will be revealed to us truthfully.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on February 19, 2012, 09:09:26 pm
He mustve had too much Ouzo that night, LOL!:))

The photos of both artifact 1 and 2 are posted on the last page, by Zorgon.

The second object is very detailed, and when I sharpen and blend the edges in photoshop it looks just like a Statue of some kind, maybe a megalithic structure that was destroyed or flooded in prehistoric history.
The cold water certainly would preserve things there, and any humanoid statue is a clear sign of human or humanlike influence. Or it could be a link to a lost civilization, who would be the missing link to our past!
The first object also looks like a buried structure whose roof finally collapsed.
The Baltic Sea is definitely a mysterious body of water, and anything weird the Russians, or anyone else, has done up there, has only added to it.
Dont count out the possibility of a missile silo in an underwater location, too, and the chance it might be a decommisioned cold war site.
And last but not least, the second picture shows a type of art, or some form of sculpture, and that indicates an intelligent design.
The goverment sure could afford to get down there, but they know better, and are leaving it up to the public domain to dig deeper. Any real controversial footage or facts will never be shown to anyone like us, and if there is any, you can be sure it will be absconded with at the dock.
Welcome to the massive coverup before it begins!
Someone also replied about how it might be a plug to the inner Earth, and that doesnt sound like it would turn out well for us, if it is!:))(close the door it's cold!)
I think the access to the artifacts should be restricted to a private enterprise, and then kept from the prying eyes of the corrupt local goverment there. These guys know well the tricks and ways of getting the hardest photos of underwater anomalies, and like John Lear and his moon, the right men are on the job!
I see you are a martial artist, and must say I, too, enjoyed a youth of health and wellness, punctuated by my Uechi-Ryu classes, that lead to my kickboxing passion.
Which led to my trashed hips and knees.:(
I never competed professionally, but trained quite intensely, and think your training will always be a big boost to your level headed understanding of these subjects.
DISCIPLINE is an X factor in this world, and CONCENTRATION is key to application of such. These are two defining parts of Martial arts, that make you a better theorist, and fighter, as well!
But, you know that all too well, WW, and I wish you good night from Florida, and happy kata:))
Cheers!
Littleenki
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: WeekendWarrior on February 25, 2012, 04:49:55 am
   Thanks for those words Littleenki :)  I think like you about the concentration and controlling yourself. I hope you find something to ease on your knees and other painful area. Its not so long ago I got my ripcage busted and it took 6 months to heal properly. So, sometimes I wonder if its worth it  ;)?
But I think a people must have hobbies and follow their passions.

To the topic..  I wonder if the location is frozen now or not. Because in "ice- winter" , the ice covers only about half of Baltic sea and some warmer winters even less.
I should go and see myself, because its quite near me  ;) Maybe they are at the bottom already..
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on June 03, 2012, 05:27:05 pm
Is this a crashed UFO under the Baltic Sea ?


http://www.educatinghumanity.com/2012/05/baltic-sea-ufo-search-goes-on-oceanx.html
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 03, 2012, 06:01:14 pm
We will know soon, Astro144, and they went down there before, once already to confirm it actually is an object and not an anomalous sonar return.

A friend of mine from the area is a workboat captain in the Balkan Sea, and is very aware of the folks heading the expedition, and has told me its quite well know  n to local seafarers, and they have seen ti down there for years.

Many are of the thought that it is a spaceship , but what it looks like to me is some sort of ship deployed sonar device, or equipment from some cold war soviet project that was lost in heavy weather.
(Turret from a very large ship mounted gun)

Either way, if it is an alien craft we will be told it's something else, so its no matter until we go down there ourselves and see it firsthand.

Is the Zorgcraft submarine ready yet? :)

Cheers, and keep an eye on this one astro!
Littleenki
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on June 03, 2012, 06:15:53 pm
Littleenki.

Chances are your assumptions will prove correct...

It was a coincidence that I just happened to find that story as they are about to try and check it out...

but it is  Very Interesting that you know of someone within the area and that they are aware of the story.

Yes if anything is found to be from other worlds, the story would be covered up

Lets hope that he finds out something and if it does prove to be a UFO.. that he can tell ya !


Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 03, 2012, 06:26:25 pm
I was sure I did a thread on that one here, but can't find it now :( It make be still in the workshop

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/80bb40f5d31f.jpg)

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The Ocean Explorer team conducted between 11/6-19/6 2011 together with Franskabolaget.com a search expedition to find more of the sunken treasures of the Sea of Bothnia (northern Baltic Sea). The treasures consits of alcoholic beverages such as Champagne, Wine and Cognac laying in the holds of small Swedish mechant ships sunken by the germans during the first world war. The most famous wreck so far is with out doubt the small ketch "Jönköping" which was sunken on the 3 November 1916 by the German Uboat U 22 with 3000 bottles of Heidsieck & Co MONOPOLE Gôut Américain champagne from 1907, and 67 barrels of Bisquite & Duboché Cognac, each barrel containing 600 litres in her holds. Some of the champagne bottles has been sold for as much as EUR 20 000 per bottle. 

This years first search/salvage expedition was granted with for the season terrible weather which did the search nearly impossible and is a reason why the Ocean Explorer team will continue the search for the "fluid gold" later during this summer.  However, on the 19 June a very strange anomaly was found during a sonar survey of the sea floor. Peter Lindberg, the initiator of the expeditions, says that he has never seen anything like it even if he has spent hundreds of hours watching sonar images of the sea floor, "it's up to the rest of the world to decide what it is" he says. "It is not in our sphere of interest to go for this object since the cost for each hour out on the sea are tremendous" he says, "Since it might be nothing we can not afford spending funds just to have a look at it, even if it might be a "new" Stonehenge standing on the bottom.

http://www.oceanexplorer.se/

Quote
Originally posted by UniqueUsername23456
Anyone else notice that is UFO-like object resembles the other UFO-like objects seen during the NASA tether incident?

Looks more lie depressions in the ground to me

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9355d84c3817.png)

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Originally posted by RUFFREADY
This gets more interesting as time wears on. A second UFO near the first one found now (link)   (http://www.thelivingmoon.com//www.jdjournal.com/2012/02/01/claim-of-2nd-ufo-in-baltic-sea-needs-to-be-further-explored/[/url)

yeah no picture of it... until now  thanks to freelance_zenarchist for pointing to it

Date: 01 February 2012

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While experts speculated that the object was just a glitch in the team's sonar, new reports surfaced this week that the team uncovered a second, similar object nearby. But, as the report hopped from one website to the next, one thing was missing: an image of the second object.    Life's Little Mysteries contacted Peter Lindberg, who led the expedition, to get the full story, and the elusive sonar scan

(http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/images/i/1447/original/OceanX-anomaly-2-a.jpg)
A second object discovered on the floor of the Baltic Sea by Peter Lindberg.
CREDIT: Peter Lindberg, oceanexplorer.se


http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/2119-baltic-sunken-ufo-image.html

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/Baltic_002.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/Baltic_001.png)

There were several youtube video reports on the original team and the exploration... but it seems they are all now marked "Private"

Odd that.

Here is one video that sums it up and is funny as well

[youtube]f0C9wcfcVok[/youtube]

Why the team took the original videos off line is a mystery... I will see if I can find their home page and see if their are any updates





Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 03, 2012, 06:29:54 pm
AH HA! That is why it went private  they are making a movie about it :D

Baltic sea - Anomaly 2012 Movie

[youtube]ls7Qb37FxiA[/youtube]

Archived this one. I think I saved the original ones as well but will have to check my video library

Baltic sea Anomaly 2012 Movie
Ocean X teame Special thanks to Hauke & bro,
Join the group http://www.facebook.com/groups/178384865554985
www.oceanexplorer.se
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 03, 2012, 06:33:39 pm
BALTIC SEA UFO: Area History And Wild Theories

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Uploaded by PLANETunderATTACK on Feb 12, 2012

This video presents some significant apsects to the so-called "Baltic Sea UFO" that was recently discovered by shipwreck treasure hunters. This specific location has been known for mass-sightings and mass-witnesses more than once in the past. Please visit the links below for more information and, as always, please leave your insightful and polite comments.

"Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use."



CNN Link 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6WKRZUOkZk&feature=player_embedded

CNN Link 2:
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/28/world/europe/swedish-shipwreck-hunters/inde...

UFO Hunters "Operation Mainbrace" Link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBXOBAiglIc&feature=player_embedded

Ancient UFO Battles Link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufj1rgrGxCE

FOX News Link from August 2011:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkTtVuNqszo

[youtube]a8WHCSK404s[/youtube]
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 03, 2012, 06:43:28 pm
Found some of the other videos  under a different link...

Shipwreck Hunters Find Second 'UFO' on Ocean Floor, Divers to Visit Soon

[youtube]bG9Q1vQ-73Q[/youtube]

Crashed UFO in the Baltic Sea, June 19 2011

[youtube]3lfrj-AflYU[/youtube]

Not sure what is up with these... live footage of the expedition

Baltic sea film UFO ? 11 juni 19 juni 2011 part 1 off 2

[youtube]8cIMMAJsihQ[/youtube]

Baltic sea film UFO ? 11 juni 19 juni 2011 part 2 off 2

[youtube]FVV9DzZMUXc[/youtube]

Strange anomaly was found during a sonar UFO or stonehenge standing on the bottom ?

Quote
Peter Lindberg,? says that he has never seen anything like it even if he has spent hundreds of hours watching sonar images of the sea floor, "it's up to the rest of the world to decide what it is" he says. "It is not in our sphere of interest to go for this object since the cost for each hour out on the sea are tremendous" he says, "Since it might be nothing we can not afford spending funds just to have a look at it, even if it might be a "new" Stonehenge standing on the bottom.

[youtube]jwHE5816_XY[/youtube]

So I figured if they were not interested they could give us the coordinates, right?

 ::)

Baltic Sea ‘UFO’ Back in Mainstream News – Photos, Videos
January 26, 2012 (http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2012/01/baltic-sea-ufo-back-in-mainstream-news-photos-videos/)

Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on June 03, 2012, 06:47:09 pm
Cool Find Zorg !...

Great story for a movie, no doubt.

Sorry if I posted and you already have it as a thread..
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 03, 2012, 06:47:51 pm
Oh yeah it wasnt long before some filmmaker jumped on that one, eh Zorgon?

If I may, Im not a big photo poster, but the shape of the "indentations" reminds me of these....
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 03, 2012, 06:52:13 pm
here we go... Fox News report at the start 45 minutes

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/Baltic_003.png)

Ocean Explorer the long version movie, UFO / USO

[youtube]0bHxN-_XviU[/youtube]

Others..

Strange anomaly was found during a sonar, USO / UFO or stonehenge standing on the bottom ?

[youtube]jwHE5816_XY[/youtube]

Mysterious Object Found on Baltic Seafloor

[youtube]l2HT21s5NA0[/youtube]

Ocean explorer baltic sea USO / UFO ?

[youtube]Peew4SZpRhA[/youtube]

Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 03, 2012, 06:53:43 pm
Sorry if I posted and you already have it as a thread..

No problem LOL It was over at ATS that I posted that stuff. I just went over to pull it off and added to it just now.

That thread only got 6 flags LOL Funny how they have no interest in real anomalies over there :P

In the Swedish film report above... the cute announcer

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/Baltic_004a.png)

says that they will have room on the sub for a few that can afford the trip in May 2012. 

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/Baltic_005.png)

Be a good story to keep up on :D

Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 03, 2012, 07:01:41 pm
Hey, Zorgon, room on the sub?
In what capacity, lunch for the aliens who havent eaten in millenia?
Cant wait to hear back from the survey!
Cool thread!
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 03, 2012, 07:02:41 pm
Hey, Zorgon, room on the sub?

See above edit :P
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 04, 2012, 09:21:15 am
See above edit :P
Ah, submarine....meat locker...whats the diff?
LOL!
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 04, 2012, 01:38:18 pm
Did someOne mention a submarine sandwich? 
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 04, 2012, 01:49:10 pm
Did someOne mention a submarine sandwich?
Oooh, with extra...Brains!:D
I wouldnt step foot in that darn thing!Especially if they are loading rolls and mayonaise!
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 04, 2012, 02:48:09 pm
They'd surely get extra brains if any of Us were on that sub, eh?  [grin]
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Linda Brown on June 04, 2012, 04:24:19 pm
Notice how everyone is laughing..... nervously.  ;) Linda
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 10:16:08 am
They'd surely get extra brains if any of Us were on that sub, eh?  [grin]
hehehe! Amy! I volunteer a few brain cells for a good cause! :o
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Linda Brown on June 06, 2012, 10:40:37 am
Where is Richard Branson? I would think that he would be all over this project. Or maybe he is and the guys that are not saying much are just his cover. He has the ship that can do it..... I betcha..........  Linda
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 06, 2012, 11:03:56 am
Notice how everyone is laughing..... nervously.  ;) Linda

Yes whenever Hu-mons are faced with the unknown... they will giggle like school children  :P

Its a defense mechanism :P
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 11:16:38 am
Yes whenever Hu-mons are faced with the unknown... they will giggle like school children  :P

Its a defense mechanism :P
hehehe :o....shields up!
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: rose on June 06, 2012, 11:49:25 am
And the US and Russia are holding exercises in the exact location? I didn't know we were so buddy-buddy.

Quote
GhostTheory reader JP sent us this interesting piece of information from a Swedish newspaper in which they interview the “Baltic UFO” search team. According to this piece, there is a U.S. and Russian military exercise restricting them from entering the area where this anomalous “structure” was found at the bottom of the sea.
http://www.ghosttheory.com/2012/06/01/baltic-sea-ufo-search-military-blocking-site

rose
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Linda Brown on June 06, 2012, 12:16:11 pm
Hi Rose,

Like I said...... anybody know where Branson and his special sub is.... oh besides at the celebration of course.  With their polished shoes.... How long does it take to change into a pair of sneakers I wonder?

From Russia with Love.... I would wager.   Linda
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 06, 2012, 06:36:25 pm
And the US and Russia are holding exercises in the exact location? I didn't know we were so buddy-buddy.

Quote
GhostTheory reader JP sent us this interesting piece of information from a Swedish newspaper in which they interview the “Baltic UFO” search team. According to this piece, there is a U.S. and Russian military exercise restricting them from entering the area where this anomalous “structure” was found at the bottom of the sea.
http://www.ghosttheory.com/2012/06/01/baltic-sea-ufo-search-military-blocking-site

rose

Now why would these two groups be in the way???  Well.  THAT's suspicious!
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 08:20:48 pm
Good find, Rose, and it seems our ham-fisted military will screw this one up for good, especially if it's a real artifact.

I wish for the day when someone shows our mighty military it's punyness, and hopefully it doesnt reflect on who we are as a people.

I just hope it doesnt open a can of worms we cant deal with peacefully!

BTW, I taste like crap, and Im all bones, if anyone is listening....:D

Littleenki
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 07, 2012, 10:58:07 am
And the US and Russia are holding exercises in the exact location? I didn't know we were so buddy-buddy.

US and Russia have been buddies for a very long time. Don't forget they split the stuff that was snagged from Hitler and his rocket and weapons program and they split the Nazi scientists

The Cold War was simply a war game so both sides could control their people and arm up. Even Wernher von Braun told us this


Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 07, 2012, 10:59:56 am
Merged the two threads on this. I knew I had posted the info before but I found it under a thread started by Sky Otter. That was why I didn't find it in search when I looked under my posts.

This way all the original links and the new ones are in the same thread


 8)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Linda Brown on June 07, 2012, 11:07:38 am
Yes. Mr. Twigsnapper said it was quite the collaberation....and who else said that Sputnik happened because " their" Germans were faster at it than " our Germans!!!!"

And I am sticking by my vision of Kammler being handed off to the Russians.... particularly a band of Cossacks that had ridden hard to snatch him up when he was offered. I think that they had PLANS for him and I doubt that they were pleasant.  Russians remember..... to a certain class of German officers were considered nearly subhuman " Peasants".   Linda
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 07, 2012, 11:18:08 am
My Grandfather, a German... sang on the Don Kossack Choir as a solo tenor...

So not all Germans were held in disrespect by the Russians

What IS odd is how the Americans made heros out of those that just years before were working hard to wipe out their way of life :D
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Cosmic4life on June 07, 2012, 11:38:33 am
Apparently the Divers are down there right now oceanexplorer ,,,so we will see...

I think it's a Giant plug...... 8)

More likely a Temple Foundation.

Cosmic..
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Linda Brown on June 07, 2012, 11:52:55 am
YEAH! Go ahead! Pull that plug in the Baltic Sea.... I doubledogdareya!!!!!    ;)  Linda
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 07, 2012, 12:48:50 pm
After seeing a couple more shots of the sonar image, does anyone else see an uncanny resemblance to part of a giant electromagnet?
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Linda Brown on June 07, 2012, 01:14:54 pm


YUP
I am glad that I was not the only one thinking that! Linda
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 07, 2012, 01:25:51 pm

YUP
I am glad that I was not the only one thinking that! Linda
:-):-):-):-):-)
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Linda Brown on June 07, 2012, 01:49:43 pm
"Russians remember..... to a certain class of German officers were considered nearly subhuman " Peasants".   

For there to be a choir.... with Russians and Germans included..... then some good came out of things somehow.   Linda
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 07, 2012, 04:20:52 pm
The good and the bad exist all around us...

We reap what we sow... we find that which we seek. If you spend your life seeing only the evil, you will end up looking like this

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb253/peterkelly58/old-hag-small1.jpg)


PS She may be a really nice old lady :P
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: rose on June 08, 2012, 09:20:05 am
Whatever the 'exercise' was, it cleared out quickly.

Quote
BREAKING NEWS 2pm, The divers are now down and investigating the circle and reports from the ship say they are really amazed. There is definitely something unusual hiding at the seabed – a Mystery Beneath. More information and pictures will be released next week.
http://www.oceanexplorer.se/

This is starting to sound like a TV reality show....

rose
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Linda Brown on June 08, 2012, 09:23:16 am
Like I said..... where is Branson?

Or.... if there are that many surface ships ( American and Russian) how many submarines are in the area and what are THEY doing????

Linda
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on June 08, 2012, 10:30:18 am
Hi Linda,

I am not really sure how these things work, and I have not fully read all the details in depth as yet. Pardon me if I write having missed some obvious issues.

but briefly I assume the ship wreck finders if they have the equipment will believe that they have right to try and recover the object rather than give the publicity to the likes of someone else like Richard  Branson ( as much as I admire him) , that is if they have the rights to investigate and recover something if it is not some restricted area or within a country who may make claim to it if its within their border.

If it is a real UFO... chance are you would think they will they cover it up...and any Military involvement may well threat to act forcefully if need be take over...

There is just no way that I could see the military allowing them  admitting to finding a UFO.


Like I said..... where is Branson?

Or.... if there are that many surface ships ( American and Russian) how many submarines are in the area and what are THEY doing????

Linda
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 08, 2012, 10:48:25 am
Whatever the 'exercise' was, it cleared out quickly.
http://www.oceanexplorer.se/

This is starting to sound like a TV reality show....

rose
Hey, Rose, I wonder when Snookie will be found down there, shes everywhere these days!
LOL!
A tidbit for y'all here, a friend who is a sea captain in the baltic Sea told me a military representative where he sails from told him the gps would be down for a few days 3 days ago, and to be careful sailing at that time, so he took the week off and went home to Turkey.

Gps shut off...what?
Why would they disable the gps system? ???

Littleenki
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on June 08, 2012, 11:35:54 am
Hi LE,

The object is claimed to be 197 feet in diameter..

The size may make it hard to try and determine

looking at the objects outer surface, no doubt its pattern and shape looks somewhat unusual..

Initially I was wondering if it was a wooden object as parts of its end appear splintered... I was thinking it was something from a ship.

Or  the pattern looks like its a form of stone..

I have seen something somewhere that had a similar pattern that I think was on some SCI FI Movie. cant recall if it was on a space ship or some form of pattern on the shell of some alien.


It appears as if the object has been dragged along the ocean bottom as there seems to be a recess formation on the ocean bottom towards its right hand side on the picture of it in the link below
.
http://www.oceanexplorer.se/images/
------------------------------

After seeing a couple more shots of the sonar image, does anyone else see an uncanny resemblance to part of a giant electromagnet?
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on June 08, 2012, 01:42:17 pm
If the object is 197 feet in diameter...and if it is from a old ship...

based upon some quick research, I would be surprised.

The link below gives some idea of the size of the old wooden ships
between 1400s to 2000..

from what I have found the average lengths ranged between
150 to 450 feet in length alone.. and upto about 75 feet in width.
Not sure what their heights may have been. Those with masts from top to bottom now doubt would be very tall.

Noah's arc was suggested to be 450 feet long.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world%27s_largest_wooden_ships
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 08, 2012, 03:30:51 pm
Here ya go guys, Just for fun......


[youtube]ar2sXu7dM6U[/youtube]

 Rock 8)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 08, 2012, 03:46:40 pm
Hey, Rock, cool program there, amigo!
heres what i think it looks the most like...Cuicuilco, Mexico....
What the heck is a Mexican pyramid doing on the floor of the Baltic Sea?
Maybe they arent just pyramids, eh?
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 08, 2012, 03:59:45 pm
Thanks, But I honestly think it's a rock formation or a depression....but who knows..:)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 08, 2012, 04:55:03 pm
Thanks, But I honestly think it's a rock formation or a depression....but who knows..:)
Hmmm, like an old disc shaped pyramid perhaps?
LOL! Just kidding, its a giant pac man...chomp chomp chomp!
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Ellirium113 on June 08, 2012, 05:03:29 pm
Quote
I have seen something somewhere that had a similar pattern that I think was on some SCI FI Movie. cant recall if it was on a space ship or some form of pattern on the shell of some alien.

Did it look like this per chance?  :)

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070217133239/starwars/images/3/3f/MillenniumFalconCrossSection-SWICS.jpg)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 08, 2012, 05:27:56 pm
Oh, Ellirium, you went there! I was avoiding the MF angle at all costs, but now the cats out of the bag! BTW my favorite ship of all times! :)
Didnt someone say the image we have of the anomaly was a negative, and it's actually a depression as Rock posed?
Sonar has to be inverted to give a reasonable image, and that would make it a hole, or low lying area.
Similar to a collapsed temple, or circular structure?
Cheers!
Littleenki
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 08, 2012, 05:47:55 pm
Thanks, But I honestly think it's a rock formation or a depression....but who knows..:)

Or this...

(http://www.travelstar1.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/atlantida3-g.jpg)


ATLANTIS
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: simon_alex0327 on June 08, 2012, 06:58:15 pm
Or maybe this.....  ;D

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Critter/Group_001.png)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on June 08, 2012, 07:07:18 pm
Cosmic find Ellirium113...

Shapewise you have it...

If that turns out to be the detail underneath its outer shell...

then what can one say !   :)



Did it look like this per chance?  :)

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070217133239/starwars/images/3/3f/MillenniumFalconCrossSection-SWICS.jpg)
[/quote]
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 08, 2012, 07:12:08 pm
Silly Lemmings :P 

The resemblance to the Falcon has been on the news since the first announcement :P

Looks like Chewy got away... though someone caught a picture  :o

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/25/Smalfut.jpg)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on June 08, 2012, 07:17:29 pm
Looking at the other posts from Simon and Zorgon...

Not sure what it is that Simon found..as yet.

Maybe we should hold one of those contests like A51 Watcher to see who comes up closest to what information that they release to us.

Was the Baltic  one of the suggestions for where Atlantis may be ?
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Ellirium113 on June 08, 2012, 07:20:01 pm
Cosmic find Ellirium113...

Shapewise you have it...

If that turns out to be the detail underneath its outer shell...

then what can one say !   :)



Did it look like this per chance?  :)

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070217133239/starwars/images/3/3f/MillenniumFalconCrossSection-SWICS.jpg)

My guess is that it is a building or part of a building. I think they will have a fun time trying to recover it.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 08, 2012, 07:20:54 pm
Was the Baltic  one of the suggestions for where Atlantis may be ?

Quote
Finnish eccentric Ior Bock located Atlantis in the Baltic sea, at southern part of Finland where he claimed a small community of people lived during the Ice Age. According to Bock, this was possible due to Gulf Stream which brought warm water to the Finnish coast. This is a small part of a large saga that he claims has been told in his family through the ages, dating back to the development of language itself. The family saga tells the name Atlantis comes from Swedish words allt-land-is ("all-land-ice") and refers to the last Ice-Age. Thus in the Bock family saga it's more a time period than an exact geographical place. According to this the Atlantis disappeared in 8016 BC when the Ice-Age ended in Finland and the ice melted away

Bock, Ior. "Atlantis rising magazine". bocksaga.com. See also: Bock, Ior. Bockin perheen saaga. Helsinki 1996. ISBN 952-5137-00-7
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 08, 2012, 07:23:36 pm
Silly Lemmings :P 

The resemblance to the Falcon has been on the news since the first announcement :P

Looks like Chewy got away... though someone caught a picture  :o

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/25/Smalfut.jpg)
Sorry, Z-man, thats me on the way home from the groomer...dont I look smashing?!
And the MF, I know that ship cant crash, shes too sturdy.
It doesnt matter now anyways, the aliens are eating the Explorer crew as we speak. Mmmm, tasty sailors...:D
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 08, 2012, 07:28:41 pm
Sorry, Z-man, thats me on the way home from the groomer...dont I look smashing?!

Hmmm not sure... what shoe size you have?
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 08, 2012, 07:33:49 pm
Hmmm not sure... what shoe size you have?
hehehe! you devil you!
Shaq sends me his hand me downs and theyre tight! 21 of course!
Dont ask me where I get my gloves!
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: simon_alex0327 on June 08, 2012, 07:41:00 pm
It cant be the MF, as it crashed in my back yard and I have no idea what to do with two crazy robots or Princess Leia.  :P
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on June 08, 2012, 07:42:19 pm
Now we have the shape...Its the outer shell that I recall from somewhere.

Yes the Falcon was mentioned earlier in the thread..but I haven't seen
anything showing so much detail before.

If its some form of Ancient building / or Atlantis... I suspect that they would had picked up much more detail by now with sonar / radar..unless they are holding that back.

LOLs....LE / S.A 0327!
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 10, 2012, 12:12:51 pm
Just in: Baltic Sea UFO a publicity stunt by the treasure hunters?

Quote
June 10, 2012 - Someone slipped up when uploading private documents to the Ocean X Team website. Disclose.tv learned today that a simple Google search reveals documents stored on the team’s website that strongly suggest that the Baltic Sea anomaly is nothing more than a publicity stunt to raise money (presumably for the treasure hunters’ other projects).

This is a translated paragraph from a Word document located on the Ocean X Team website that Google has indexed and cached:

The Ocean X Team will do their utmost to create publicity for the Circle project and thus attracting considerable and valuable media attention, which can be used in advertising. So far, about 700 million viewers around the world have been reached through news broadcasts, Internet-based news outlets not included.

The document further suggests that the team’s main interest in the anomaly is monetary compensation:

Is the circle something that can be salvaged and which contains monetary value? If the circle is a natural resource, the OX team can not guarantee monetary compensation as it’s located within an economic zone.

Again, this information can be obtained through a simple Google search. Click the link below and see the last two Google search results on page 9. The PDF document indexed by Google contains the team’s budget calculations, and is in English:

https://www.google.com/search?q=site:oceanexplorer.se&hl=en&start=90

Disclose TV (http://www.disclose.tv/news/Just_in_Baltic_Sea_UFO_a_publicity_stunt_by_the_treasure_hunters/85298)

Ocean X Team project budget (estimated) (http://www.oceanexplorer.se/?s=project-budget-Tproject-budget-Titan.pdfitan.pdf) - [PDF][NOT Archived]

Seems the documents have already been removed
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: sky otter on June 10, 2012, 12:16:48 pm


hummmmmmmmmmm
truth or smoke and mirrors because it IS something

will we ever know..?????

stay tuned as zorro..humrp..i mean ZORGON

finds the answers

 8)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 10, 2012, 12:27:38 pm
It cant be the MF, as it crashed in my back yard and I have no idea what to do with two crazy robots or Princess Leia.  :P

Sell the ship to NASA ... they need some help with parts so they can be a viable Space Agency again :P

The robots sell em for scrap, they are obsolete :D

The Princess? I will take her off your hands.. I have this dungeon at the Castle for such occasions and she is already dressed for the part :P  In fact there are a LOT of wannabe candidates on the internet  :o

(http://thetorchonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/princess_leia_gold_bikini.jpg)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 10, 2012, 02:55:25 pm
My guess is that it is a building or part of a building. I think they will have a fun time trying to recover it.
Greetings;

Yo Ellirium:

So this 'building' slides into first base... exactly how?

BTW, your work in the Space Game thread is marvelous!

tfw
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Ellirium113 on June 11, 2012, 06:34:30 am
Greetings;

Yo Ellirium:

So this 'building' slides into first base... exactly how?

BTW, your work in the Space Game thread is marvelous!

tfw

Thank you kindly...you can check out this link for one I have actually finished a few years ago.

http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Modules.Detail&id=5989 (http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Modules.Detail&id=5989)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Ellirium113 on June 11, 2012, 06:35:52 am
I have this dungeon at the Castle for such occasions and she is already dressed for the part :P  In fact there are a LOT of wannabe candidates on the internet  :o

(http://thetorchonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/princess_leia_gold_bikini.jpg)

The Rancor doesn't like it when you refer to it as the dungeon...he prefers home.  ;)

Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: rose on June 15, 2012, 08:11:48 am
They found a mushroom.


seriously
Quote
First they thought it was just stone or a rock cliff, but after further observations the object appeared more as a huge mushroom, rising 3-4 meters/10-13 feet from the seabed,
http://www.oceanexplorer.se/
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: sky otter on June 15, 2012, 08:33:30 am

 :D
i copied the whole thing from your link, Rose..and thanks cause i copied the picture and enlarged it as best i could and those holes on the top were bothering me as to what they were...
campfires..?  chimneys ?  hummmmmmmmmmmm



15/6/2012, PRESS RELEASE

THE TREASURE HUNTERS, OCEAN X TEAM, DISCOVERED SOMETHING UNIQUE WHEN THEY DOVE DOWN TO THE MYSTERIOUS CIRCLE-SHAPED OBJECT IN THE BALTIC SEA

Treasure hunters confirm they have found something abnormal in the seabed

STOCKHOLM, Sweden, June 15, 2012

The Ocean X Team dove down to the circle-shaped object in the Baltic Sea and met something they never experienced before. First they thought it was just stone or a rock cliff, but after further observations the object appeared more as a huge mushroom, rising 3-4 meters/10-13 feet from the seabed, with rounded sides and rugged edges. The object had an egg shaped hole leading into it from the top, as an opening. On top of the object they also found strange stone circle formations, almost looking like small fireplaces. The stones were covered in something resembling soot.

“During my 20-year diving career, including 6000 dives, I have never seen anything like this. Normally stones don’t burn. I can’t explain what we saw, and I went down there to answer questions, but I came up with even more questions “, says Stefan Hogeborn, one of the divers at Ocean X Team.

The path to the object itself can be described as a runway or a downhill path that is flattened at the seabed with the object at the end of it.

“First we thought this was only stone, but this is something else. And since no volcanic activity has ever been reported in the Baltic Sea the find becomes even stranger. As laymen we can only speculate how this is made by nature, but this is the strangest thing I have ever experienced as a professional diver“, continues Peter Lindberg, one of the founder Ocean X Team.

Right now, scientists are examining samples from the circle-shaped object, and experts in sonar imaging are processing data from the ship to hopefully shed more light over the mysterious object.

 
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 15, 2012, 08:36:00 am
Hmmmm, another megalithic site, perhaps?
Pits and curses for a runway?
Wheres a Hobbit when we need him?:D

Sounds like some sort of ritualistic or spiritual center, with a clear path to the site, or it has slid along the seafloor making that runway of sorts.

I want some pictures guys! All this hubbub and not pictures?

Come on fellas, the world is about to stop following the story, and they said it was clearly a big money making oportunity, so if they dont SHOW some evidence soom, the short attention spanners will turn their backs and follow the next mystery!

I wont believe a word of anything they say, until there are pictures, and even then, how do we know they are real?

Hopefully something will placate my wonderments soon!
Thanks for the update, Rose!

littleenki
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: deuem on June 15, 2012, 09:00:56 am
These guys now have a TV deal
 
http://www.balticcowboys.com/ (http://www.balticcowboys.com/)
 
Forget any releases of video or photographs. They are after MONEY and they found it.
 
Deuem
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on June 15, 2012, 10:33:20 am
Mushrooms !!!   :o :o :o

Rock Mushrooms !!!  :o :o :o

Fossilized maybe !

197 feet in diameter...has anyone ever heard of any so big.
 in the Jurassic period maybe

Whatever next !   :-\

Would have made plenty of Chicken and Mushroom pies.. :)

Well that would be the strangest cover up for a UFO if it was one.

Maybe the Aliens dropped it off.. ;D



They found a mushroom.


seriouslyhttp://www.oceanexplorer.se/
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 15, 2012, 12:15:20 pm
They found a mushroom.

seriouslyhttp://www.oceanexplorer.se/

WOW

Its TRUE then  what Jules Verne told us...

(http://dynamic.images.indigo.ca/books/1416561463.jpg?lang=en&width=210&quality=85&altimages=true&csvids=)

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17mtioa8kr6w7jpg/original.jpg)

A Journey to the Centre of the Earth
Jules Verne
(http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0486440885/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=pegasreseacon-20&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=0486440885)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 15, 2012, 12:44:37 pm
These guys now have a TV deal
 
http://www.balticcowboys.com/ (http://www.balticcowboys.com/)


Too funny. Went to that site and the intro video "This video has been removed by user"

Maybe the deal fell through :P
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on June 15, 2012, 12:47:52 pm
Zorgon is never short of ideas and imagination to suit the occasion.

Classic representation.   :)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: jhb on June 18, 2012, 07:09:39 am
There is another outlook that has been floated.  Early on there was a report of Russian and American military vessels in the area.

When the Explorer Team went ashore recently they reported that the mission was now Top Secret. 

This mushroom structure story could be smoke and mirrors to cover what they really found.  Further, they could have been forced to put this story out along with the few photos they released.

This would not be the first major cover-up implemented by the military.

jhb
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 18, 2012, 07:38:28 am
Hey, JHB and welcome!

This whole thing is beginning to show signs of the classic coverup...do they think we are that stupid?

I guess so as they know we dont have the equipment or financial backing to get down there.

Another Abyss? Actually I hope so, our military and PTB need a wake up call...aliens? underwater megaliths? magic mushrooms?

Well never know unless the military meets it's match.

Gooooo aliens!!!!!!

Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on June 18, 2012, 08:15:22 am
So far it has panned out as we would have expected if it is a cover up...

Its certainly hard to believe the mushroom story..

Maybe Littleenki's friend can find out more and inform him...

--------------------------------------------

"A friend of mine from the area is a workboat captain in the Balkan Sea, and is very aware of the folks heading the expedition, and has told me its quite well know  n to local seafarers, and they have seen ti down there for years."
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 18, 2012, 09:34:20 am
Ozzie's on vacation in Istanbul, still, and when he gets back up Norht he's going to poke around for us a bit!
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 18, 2012, 09:53:29 am
Yeah...  I'm struggling to believe the "mushroom" story.  Yeah.  Sure.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: hobbit on June 22, 2012, 01:19:26 pm
Might be more to see in the Baltic sea , than whats been seen so far.
http://gaanderson.hubpages.com/hub/Baltic-Sea-UFO-UnIdentified-Submerged-Object
hobbit
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 22, 2012, 01:54:02 pm
Is it me or does that long one look like a multiple of the small ones?

It looks like a bad photoshop job, where they used the original picture to make a new one with a repeat of the same pattern over and over into a cigar shaped anomaly.

And the one anomaly, C, is similar to an inverted version of A.

Anyone here who looks for moon and mars anomalies will see what im saying right away...anyone?

Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: sky otter on June 22, 2012, 02:12:51 pm

 ;D

hey Hobbit..
great find and the pictures of the entire thing sure change some thoughts
and the little note at the bottom also

looks like a commuters vechicle.. i.e. bus/train..lol
perhaps the ship that was told to be discarded when the Tuatha Dé Danann arrived...

 8)


http://gaanderson.hubpages.com/hub/Baltic-Sea-UFO-UnIdentified-Submerged-Object
Author's note: two days after Nosecrets.org posted this data, the site went dark. The site owners said they were hacked, and their servers wiped clean, but so far they have been unable to trace the source of the hack. They have also been unable to recover any of their server data - or locate the original thumb-drive that was stored in an office safe. - GAA
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: hobbit on June 22, 2012, 02:24:23 pm
Is it me or does that long one look like a multiple of the small ones?

It looks like a bad photoshop job, where they used the original picture to make a new one with a repeat of the same pattern over and over into a cigar shaped anomaly.

And the one anomaly, C, is similar to an inverted version of A.

Anyone here who looks for moon and mars anomalies will see what im saying right away...anyone?

Le

Perhaps the multiple of the smaller one design ,would help to explain the cigar shaped sightings????

Or perhaps it's akin to pinocchio...the more lies are told about it, the longer it grows.
hobbit
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on June 22, 2012, 02:30:21 pm
Hi Hobbit,

Nice find,

Fascinating to see the true picture of what they were hiding..

I have to say that at the moment I am stuck for ideas what it may be..

But it is certainly unusual...

Will have to absorb it for a while...

Astr0144
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 22, 2012, 02:35:22 pm
Perhaps the multiple of the smaller one design ,would help to explain the cigar shaped sightings????

Or perhaps it's akin to pinocchio...the more lies are told about it, the longer it grows.
hobbit

Hehehe!
youre a trip, kevin!!
LOL!
Ya know, I did think about how it might be a number of the same ships docked together, like pods, and the separate ones are broken free from the main one...a possibility, but yes pinocchio's nose may be growing to long for his face!

Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 22, 2012, 04:16:03 pm
Is it me or does that long one look like a multiple of the small ones?

It looks like a bad photoshop job, where they used the original picture to make a new one with a repeat of the same pattern over and over into a cigar shaped anomaly.

And the one anomaly, C, is similar to an inverted version of A.

Anyone here who looks for moon and mars anomalies will see what im saying right away...anyone?

Le

I'm fully with You on that, Dave.  That looked completely shopped.  Spidy sense says that image is the hoax.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: rdunk on June 22, 2012, 04:29:39 pm
Is it me or does that long one look like a multiple of the small ones?

It looks like a bad photoshop job, where they used the original picture to make a new one with a repeat of the same pattern over and over into a cigar shaped anomaly.

And the one anomaly, C, is similar to an inverted version of A.

Anyone here who looks for moon and mars anomalies will see what I'm saying right away...anyone?
Le

Littleenki, there is yet no way of knowing what this "thing' is, but, you are right about "multiples", much in the same way "train engines and train cars are multiples". That 920 ft long anomaly is made up of multiple sections, of different sizes. There are eleven sections in the anomaly. The two sections on each end of the anomaly are identical. The eight sections in the middle are identical (the two middle sections may be slightly more narrow), and smaller than the end smaller sections. The "two extra sections" appear to be the same size as the end sections on the anomaly.

it is fairly obvious that these sections are designed to Interlock, as in slide into one another. That is what is clearly represented by the fore and aft areas of the two extra sections, and also by the exposed ends of the two very end sections of the anomaly. Actually, if you will notice, the end section on the right end of the anomaly is seen to not be "fully engaged into its mating section.  If one compares this end to the left end, it is clear that the right end is not fully engaged.

Just a very strange anomaly. The article does say the anomaly is 920 feet long, 205 feet wide, and it is hollow. That would be over 3 football fields long, and over 1 football field wide (45 ft more). And that is without the other two sections, which "may" have somehow become "unattached" with whatever has happened with this anomaly.

I believe this does deserve more discussion!! I will post anther pic, which has magnification, to give us a little better view of the detail.

Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Ellirium113 on June 22, 2012, 04:37:21 pm
I'm fully with You on that, Dave.  That looked completely shopped.  Spidy sense says that image is the hoax.

Definitely not adding any credibility with them for sure... +1 for me... look at these images...    :)

http://gaanderson.hubpages.com/hub/Baltic-Sea-UFO-UnIdentified-Submerged-Object#slide6109513 (http://gaanderson.hubpages.com/hub/Baltic-Sea-UFO-UnIdentified-Submerged-Object#slide6109513)



http://www.theorionconspiracy.com/html/third_wreck.html (http://www.theorionconspiracy.com/html/third_wreck.html)

Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 22, 2012, 04:52:07 pm
This whole thing is beginning to show signs of the classic coverup...do they think we are that stupid?

Well in a word... yes :P And most people are. Its only a few in forums like this that question things

Now Ellirium just posted a link to the thermal density image. Haven't checked the link yet but if this is real its VERY interesting

(http://s2.hubimg.com/u/6109513_f520.jpg)

Balt?k Denizi’nde UFO Av? (http://www.bilim-haber.net/baltik-denizinde-ufo-avi.html) - Turkish

English Translation - UFO Baltic Sea Hunt (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=tr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bilim-haber.net%2Fbaltik-denizinde-ufo-avi.html&act=url)


(http://www.bilim-haber.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/sonar-1-150x150.jpg)

(http://www.bilim-haber.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/baltic-sea-anomaly-ufo.jpg)

(http://www.bilim-haber.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/uf4fc8db2c.jpg)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Ellirium113 on June 22, 2012, 04:53:58 pm
Somehow I doubt it is a thermal image...more likely an image manipulated in photoshop from the Orion Conspiricy site.

Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 22, 2012, 05:03:52 pm
Yeah most likely :D  But I didn't have that Third Ship from Orion yet :D  Will have to add that to the Orion thread if I can find it again :P
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 22, 2012, 05:36:48 pm
Definitely not adding any credibility with them for sure... +1 for me... look at these images...    :)

http://gaanderson.hubpages.com/hub/Baltic-Sea-UFO-UnIdentified-Submerged-Object#slide6109513 (http://gaanderson.hubpages.com/hub/Baltic-Sea-UFO-UnIdentified-Submerged-Object#slide6109513)



http://www.theorionconspiracy.com/html/third_wreck.html (http://www.theorionconspiracy.com/html/third_wreck.html)

My biggest clue that the "cigar" was shopped was the way the "land" at the top keeps repeating.  And the pixels seem to match within the dispersion expected from a clone tool.  My guess is that this was produced to add confusion and dismissal in non-discerning types.  We here are a bit more discerning.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 22, 2012, 09:35:31 pm
Can you say...Pho-to-shop?

What if there is something there, and the images are just covering the real story?

Balkan Balking?

What gets my goat, Amy is how someone can actually pass that off and expect us to fall for it.

Its akin to the WTC being replaced with a cardboard cutout to fool us into thinking they never fell!

Too much photoshop and not enough honesty. And now there's a movie...oh boy...fire up the gullible express honey! Were going to the cinema!

Ill be interested in how this pans out, but I know in my heart it isnt real, although I cant make that call for anyone else, so Ill just sit back and watch the Balkan circus erupt into a big pile of elephant dung!

Sweet dreams, Amy! The millenium Falcon is fueling up for tomorrows flight!:D
Littleenki
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 22, 2012, 10:33:23 pm
I do think the original mysterious object is real, in that something unusual sits on the floor of the Baltic sea.  But I am equally certain that efforts (via Photoshop/equivalent and outlandish creppola stated) to make everyOne just roll Their eyes at the whole mess and move on.

This is how They hide the truth in plain sight.  Too much non-truth out there such that the truth gets lumped with the bogus.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 22, 2012, 10:45:40 pm
This is how They hide the truth in plain sight.  Too much non-truth out there such that the truth gets lumped with the bogus.

OR....

There is nothing there but some odd shaped rocks :D
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 22, 2012, 11:08:39 pm
Doubtful, z.  Lessee...  First it's a mushroom.  Then it's got hallways...  Then it's got photoshopped adjunct structures...  Not, "Well, We went down there and just found a bunch of odd-shaped rocks.  What a bust."
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: rdunk on June 22, 2012, 11:15:21 pm
Amaterasu, you may be right about this thing, but, since we actually don't know, I will wait for later search and determination. Although, if they want to distort the truth, whatever that may be, then how can we ever be sure.

A couple of things I will mention.

First, have you noticed that the lower edge of the longer anomaly has some type of dark/black vertical features all along that edge. These features are not visible on either of the two separate pieces. And shouldn't they be, if this single piece was just photo shopped into the longer section?? It is hollow, so there should be vertical height.

Secondly, you mentioned that "the land" at the top keeps repeating", and it does look that way. Well, while it does look that way, there are a few differences in those "land features". One difference is, they don't all go the same way, from the anomaly. A couple of them veer to the left, while the others veer to the right. Also, have you noticed the "white features" along the upper edge of the anomaly. Each section has one, and whatever those features are, they could have something to do with the "movement of the land", operationally or otherwise.

Thirdly, don't you think it a little odd, if this is a shopped piece, that right end section on the long anomaly is shown as being less than completely engaged?? That is pretty easy to see in the photo. It is kinda obvious, that hoax or not, the lower single section shows us the features of how these sections could joined together.

I am just say'in! We will find out something about this in due time.

One thing I do like about this, as a possible UFO, is that in my opinion, the architecture of it breaks completely away, from our general vision, or sense, of an interstellar vehicle. And that is a good thing for us to get away from, to broaden our vision of the possibilities.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 23, 2012, 12:12:12 am
rdunk,

1.  If You look at the anomaly bottom right, You will see that indeed there is a stripe of black at the bottom (which matches with the "segments").  Clearly this was not precisely a clone tool job, but more a copy & paste job, where the segments were taken and erased in areas They didn't want to have showing - and then shrunk slightly - thus accounting for some of the "differences."

2.  Pixel differences will occur when One places a piece - Photoshop/equivalents will approximate the pixels if not placed precisely on the pixel grid, and when shrunk.  Also, if You look closely, the line of the "cigar" is not exactly square with the edge of the picture.  It drops slightly right to left.  This too will give the differences You describe.

3.  No.  Who knows what was going through the mind of the person who did this when they create it, but the top right hand piece matches virtually perfectly (with allowances for pixel approximation and shrinkage) to the lower right "original."  Including the "white" wide-ish band about 1/4 in from the right (and the other bands).  In real things, this NEVER happens.

So.  As a Photoshop expert, I give probabilities this was shopped at 99.9999999999999999999%

Seriously.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 23, 2012, 12:36:04 am
Not, "Well, We went down there and just found a bunch of odd-shaped rocks.  What a bust."

First report  on video interview  "It could be just some unusual rocks..."  :P

Then the news media called it the Millennium Falcon  ;D
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: deuem on June 23, 2012, 01:32:51 am
I would like to add a note about it looking Photo Shopped./
 
It should! If it didn't I would be worried.  When you uses a side scan radar you make passes. My old friend has one and when we looked for new ship wrecks. You make passes, if you have a printer, you get strips of paper. If you want to make a photo out of it, we used to tape them together. Now a days you would either dirrect link to a computer or scan them into a file and then Shop them back together. At that depth there is no way to get one big photo on one pass. It would wash out. So lots of passes for a cleaner photo. Most likely a lot more than you see.
 
Now I don't want anyone to say it is real or fake based on what I just wrote. It still could be just a copy, copy, copy. But if I had to do it, it would come out very similar and yes it would be shopped. We all tend to forget that real people buy and use photoshop for real work. It is the tricksters that use it for faking things, not everyone.
 
The photo they show, if real, is looking to me like a tanker or sub with the deck colapsed/gone in parts and the ships frames showing, still in an upright position. Watch and see, this will be Noahs Arc in a few days.  It is the typical run around that gets us. The game is on and in full swing.
 
Deuem
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: sky otter on June 23, 2012, 05:42:24 am


oh boo hoo.. :'(

no body liked my  commuter transpot idea
come on guys.. it could have been before scotty could be ya up
party poops...
sigh
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 23, 2012, 05:48:35 am
Mornin' Dueum, Im glad you chimed in here!

You say it may be a tanker or some ship, but clearly the image shows differing bottom structures around the anomaly, yet the "ship" looks like a grade school copy and paste.

I think that it's possible the glitch could be an effect of some cloaking device meant to keep us from finding it, and even if the 'aliens" who were on board are dead and gone, the device might still be working. Or even not working well, as seen by the actual shape being shown on sonar in two places.

And, as we are a resonant universe, any sonar efforts could be undermined by such a cloaking device, to the point where it's all a big scrambled assemblage of the same image.

Of course, this is just one theory among many, and not what I actually believe as of now, but as Im the last one to shoot down any chance of finding ET, it's the only theory I can imagine causing this weird copying and overlapping of images into a larger package.

Cloaking? Alien photoshop? Both?

Wait and see, I guess!
Cheers
Littleenki
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 23, 2012, 05:50:40 am

oh boo hoo.. :'(

no body liked my  commuter transpot idea
come on guys.. it could have been before scotty could be ya up
party poops...
sigh

I like it, Sky, and it always pissed me off when they would beam down instead of using a perfectly good shuttlecraft!
Id start looking for some skeletons in red shirts down there if I were them!
LOL! Your a trip Sky!
Happy gardening!
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 23, 2012, 09:48:48 am
I would like to add a note about it looking Photo Shopped./
 
It should! If it didn't I would be worried.  When you uses a side scan radar you make passes. My old friend has one and when we looked for new ship wrecks. You make passes, if you have a printer, you get strips of paper. If you want to make a photo out of it, we used to tape them together. Now a days you would either dirrect link to a computer or scan them into a file and then Shop them back together. At that depth there is no way to get one big photo on one pass. It would wash out. So lots of passes for a cleaner photo. Most likely a lot more than you see.
 
Now I don't want anyone to say it is real or fake based on what I just wrote. It still could be just a copy, copy, copy. But if I had to do it, it would come out very similar and yes it would be shopped. We all tend to forget that real people buy and use photoshop for real work. It is the tricksters that use it for faking things, not everyone.
 
The photo they show, if real, is looking to me like a tanker or sub with the deck colapsed/gone in parts and the ships frames showing, still in an upright position. Watch and see, this will be Noahs Arc in a few days.  It is the typical run around that gets us. The game is on and in full swing.
 
Deuem

Yes, I know about the striping in such things.  But if You look, You will see identical striping on the upper right piece as on the lower right piece - but the upper piece is shifted to the right by quite a ways.  This is a smoking gun right there.  The stripes would NOT match EXACTLY but shifted over (relative to the whole) on a piece that matches EXACTLY in other details, allowing for slight shrinkage and placement approximation.

No...  I will stand firm in My assessment, as one who has used Photoshop for thousands of hours, in saying that the probabilities that this was shopped are 99.9999999999999%
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: deuem on June 23, 2012, 11:05:50 am
I think we agree, I am just saying that it would have needed to be shopped no matter what.
 
Yes it looks like a botched up copy, copy as I also wrote.
 
Is it snowing on your computer, because when I see this new photo I call it a snow job! lol
 
Deuem
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 23, 2012, 11:47:02 am
I think we agree, I am just saying that it would have needed to be shopped no matter what.

Yes, agreed.  Just saying that to Me it is VERY clear that the upper "object" is a manufactured one using elements from the original file.
 
Quote
Yes it looks like a botched up copy, copy as I also wrote.

Yes You did.  [smile]  It just seemed to My initial view that You were hedging on the manufactured nature of the image of the "cigar."  My many apologies for misreading Your intent.
 
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Is it snowing on your computer, because when I see this new photo I call it a snow job! lol
 
Deuem

LOL!  It's ALWAYS snowing on MY monitor!  I have red snow perpetually.  But this did not make it impossible to analyze the fakery in the photo - the snow is not THAT bad.  (And in the dolor range in that photo, barely there.)

But yes.  I don't know what the motive was for releasing that clear fake as some sort of real object, but attempted snow job it is.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 23, 2012, 12:03:38 pm
But yes.  I don't know what the motive was for releasing that clear fake as some sort of real object, but attempted snow job it is.

Seriously? You don't know?  :P

Well let me spell it out for you

M O N E Y

These guys are treasure hunters. From the very first release they said they were looking for  MONEY to make it worth their while to go back down there

Then came the Tabloid Effect... the general public buys tabloids, They are not interested in odd rocks. An Alien space craft, an underwater Stonehenge, maybe a lost part of Atlantis... THAT sells (MONEY) the news

It was the media that first turned it into a spaceship. In the original live interview there was no mention of UFO. But that video has been removed (good thing I saved it :D ) So the treasure hunters went with the flow... saw a good opportunity to make more bucks by promoting the mystery

And conspiracy people are just as bad as the tabloid eating public. Why? because they are so sure that there has to be a coverup that they won't believe if it turns out to be 'just a rock' this time. The military exercise in the area is proof of that... never mind that we are on the brink of war with Iran

So the tabloid eaters will tell you that Brittany Spears just gave birth to an Alien baby, and the CTers will say it has to be a cover up when they return with nothing :D

Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 23, 2012, 12:10:48 pm
This is how They hide the truth in plain sight.  Too much non-truth out there such that the truth gets lumped with the bogus.

This is also how they make a story out of nothing :P

This picture  a real sonar scan is much better to look at. Yeah that other one is photoshopped. Doesn't take more than a glance to see the cloning :D  I prefer Paintshop Pro  much better cloning tools

(http://www.bilim-haber.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/uf4fc8db2c.jpg)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Somamech on June 23, 2012, 12:39:42 pm
One question I asked myself which may be useful for others when I saw this story...

Why are they mentioning UFO and Mellenium Falcon in the news when it's a rock hard given that the Navy's of the world would have a pretty good understanding of what's down there in the murky depths.  If it really was a parked ancient spaceship or something else I don't think they would be letting any ship go down in that area. 

The Australian government would probably find a need to make sure they placed a detention centre near by for  a crude but rather hat tipping example :D
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 23, 2012, 12:42:36 pm
Seriously? You don't know?  :P

Well let me spell it out for you

M O N E Y

These guys are treasure hunters. From the very first release they said they were looking for  MONEY to make it worth their while to go back down there

Then came the Tabloid Effect... the general public buys tabloids, They are not interested in odd rocks. An Alien space craft, an underwater Stonehenge, maybe a lost part of Atlantis... THAT sells (MONEY) the news

It was the media that first turned it into a spaceship. In the original live interview there was no mention of UFO. But that video has been removed (good thing I saved it :D ) So the treasure hunters went with the flow... saw a good opportunity to make more bucks by promoting the mystery

And conspiracy people are just as bad as the tabloid eating public. Why? because they are so sure that there has to be a coverup that they won't believe if it turns out to be 'just a rock' this time. The military exercise in the area is proof of that... never mind that we are on the brink of war with Iran

So the tabloid eaters will tell you that Brittany Spears just gave birth to an Alien baby, and the CTers will say it has to be a cover up when they return with nothing :D

Now, z, I didn't say I did not have data that pointed to a likelihood of motive.  I just said I didn't KNOW, as in have complete certainty.  Sure, I speculate You are absolutely correct.  I give it a very high probability.  At least 90%.  But I cannot say I KNOW the motive, so thus My statement.  [smile]
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 23, 2012, 01:10:54 pm
PSSTTT that was sarcasm hence the :P
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 23, 2012, 09:01:45 pm
PSSTTT that was sarcasm hence the :P

LOL!  Ok.  Sarcasm is a difficult thing to pick up on in print.  I will be sure to figure when I see You use the :P that You have good probability of being sarcastic.  [smile]
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: rdunk on June 23, 2012, 09:06:14 pm
And I will look forward to whatever is the real truth about this matter, your learn-ed opinions not withstanding!!! :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 23, 2012, 11:59:17 pm
And I will look forward to whatever is the real truth about this matter, your learn-ed opinions not withstanding!!! :)) :)) :))

Well, another point...  In the sonar image z put up (see below) the area where the "cigar" would be is completely blank.  Part of it would be showing at the bottom (if not all of it) - and it's completely blank.

So...  Just another indication that the "cigar" was photomanipulated into place.

As for learning whatever is the real truth is about this matter...  We just may never know.


(http://www.bilim-haber.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/uf4fc8db2c.jpg)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: deuem on June 24, 2012, 03:23:18 am
With that photo one can see how they took a path of a crashed UFO. Right to left. Now If you look at it from the other side ( Left to right ) and think river, I can see water flowing from the left and cutting a path over harder rock causing a short water fall and then a gorge all the way to the right. If this was a Mars photo, maybe I would think that first. UFO 2nd or 3rd.
Deuem
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 24, 2012, 06:57:56 am
With that photo one can see how they took a path of a crashed UFO. Right to left. Now If you look at it from the other side ( Left to right ) and think river, I can see water flowing from the left and cutting a path over harder rock causing a short water fall and then a gorge all the way to the right. If this was a Mars photo, maybe I would think that first. UFO 2nd or 3rd.
Deuem

Thats a good point, Dueum, as it does look like a riverbed whereas the "ufo" is where the bedrock breaks off and froms a waterfall...good observation there!

I had to wonder if it was some prehistoric site which was buried under water millenia ago, and maybe thats why they dont want to say much about it other than it's mushroom shaped...yeah right!

Could they have found a lost city or village perhaps, and didnt the vikings build something like these?

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tHqk5A4mtyg/TcHfyb4ZuNI/AAAAAAAAAkk/gQGoSmXNi3Y/s1600/Viking-TrelleborgFortresses-U-484-LR.jpg)

Hmmm, looks like a ufo to me(LOL!) ;)
Littleenki
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: jhb on June 25, 2012, 10:46:22 am
Hi Guys,

There is a new posting on Whitley Strieber's website:

unknowncountry.com

This is the synopsis of an interview with Peter Lindberg by reporter Cecilia Svensson of NDT News Stockholm. 

Peter indicates that their satellite phone stopped working as soon as they moved in above the object.  The camera also quit working as they dove on the object to obtain video.

As I'm sure you all know electromagnetic anomalies have been happening around UFO sitings for years. 

Peter also says there appears to be corridors and a stairway into the object.  He indicated the hole they found may be related to an entrance.
He said it is one of the strangest objects he has ever seen.

He further states that he is 100% convinced that they have discovered something of extremely high strangeness.

JHB
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 25, 2012, 11:22:57 am
Well if it's true that the cameras failed in proximity...One might guess that a movie deal would be very difficult to bargain for, eh?  So IF that is so, One might then think that the weirdness surrounding this - that interview that was cut short included - has a basis not in publicity stunts but in some very real concern on someOne's part...

Of course, the report of camera issues could be false - in which case, it's all for publicity...
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on June 25, 2012, 11:30:13 am
Thanks for the updated info JHB,

It gets stranger each time they report to claim that they  have made each new discovery.

IF they are getting EMF electromagnetic interference to their equipment , then I think that this would  seem  very unusual indeed !
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 25, 2012, 12:15:11 pm
Well if it's true that the cameras failed in proximity...One might guess that a movie deal would be very difficult to bargain for, eh?  So IF that is so, One might then think that the weirdness surrounding this - that interview that was cut short included - has a basis not in publicity stunts but in some very real concern on someOne's part...

Of course, the report of camera issues could be false - in which case, it's all for publicity...
I agree, Amy, indicators show something odd!
Could it be the beginning? ???
Ill remember those words of the Captain for a while, as it might be the first in a line of many weird goings on...Im ready, are you?

Abundance Paradigm, chapter one coming up!:D
Dave
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: WeekendWarrior on June 25, 2012, 01:31:36 pm
   The latest news todays newspaper said it is a Nazi trap for submarines, but after many weeks of U.S and Russians troops hanging on the site and stopping the divers to go down there they could have taken away the original object easily by now.
I would love to see the sonar images now and compare if it matches still with the originals..wouldnt it be good?

WW
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 25, 2012, 01:32:57 pm
All M'life, Dave.  I've been ready all M'life.  And I am humbled to realize that I have anything to personally offer the future.  Abundance Paradigm, here We come!
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 25, 2012, 01:36:37 pm
   The latest news todays newspaper said it is a Nazi trap for submarines, but after many weeks of U.S and Russians troops hanging on the site and stopping the divers to go down there they could have taken away the original object easily by now.
I would love to see the sonar images now and compare if it matches still with the originals..wouldnt it be good?

WW

I agree that sonar images would be cool.  Still...  Considering it was originally spotted over a year ago, wasn't it?  Plenty of time to remove anything interesting and put a "rock" there to be found.  Unless...  It's something even THEY can't touch...  In which case, it would still have the same sonar profile.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: deuem on June 26, 2012, 05:37:09 am
An EM Field large enough to take out a camera and a phone on the boat but not the side scan radar and all the boats electronics?
Is that even possible? I wouldn't think so. Best of all I want to see that photo.
Go back down with a film camera, EMs not going to stop a click!
This just gets deeper by the day. I am still waiing for the Noahs arc story.
Deuem
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Linda Brown on June 26, 2012, 06:48:27 am
I am still wondering where the deep diving submarines are.... if you have surface ships lurking about... where  ( and who) are the subs?  Linda
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 26, 2012, 06:50:09 am
   The latest news todays newspaper said it is a Nazi trap for submarines, but after many weeks of U.S and Russians troops hanging on the site and stopping the divers to go down there they could have taken away the original object easily by now.
I would love to see the sonar images now and compare if it matches still with the originals..wouldnt it be good?

WW

Hey, WW!
Get that boat ready, and bring a good depth recorder and sounder!

Oh yeah, and a mask and flippers! :o

Im certain that if anything was removable down there..it's gone already.
And Im also certain that if there was something of technological interest we will see it incorporated into the MIC as well soon.

Gotta make a bigger bomb out of everything, dont they?

Hopefully, if whatever it is has been absconded with, it will backfire in their bloated faces, when they fire it up in the middle of area 51!

Beginning of the end? Not yet!

Maybe the beginning of the next phase of our lives, and we will be the shepherds to bring it to fruition with help from above!

What a cool time we live in!
Littleenki
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: sky otter on June 26, 2012, 08:16:05 pm
 ;D ::)

ah you guys are gonna luv this..
my only comment is consider the source
which is
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2164912/UFO-the-Baltic-Sea-cuts-electrical-equipment-divers-200m.html#ixzz1yxYdOmRe

'UFO' at the bottom of the Baltic Sea 'cuts off electrical equipment when divers get within 200m'
Object is raised about 10 to 13ft above seabed and curved at the sides like a mushroom
Hole is surrounded by an strange rock formation that expedition team can not explain
Stones are covered in something 'resembling soot' which has baffled experts
Divers say phones and some cameras switch off when close to the object




The divers exploring a 'UFO-shaped' object at the bottom of the Baltic Sea say their equipment stops working when they approach within 200m.
Professional diver Stefan Hogerborn, part of the Ocean X team which is exploring the anomaly, said some of the team's cameras and the team's satellite phone would refuse to work when directly above the object, and would only work once they had sailed away.
He is quoted as saying: 'Anything electric out there - and the satellite phone as well - stopped working when we were above the object.
'And then we got away about 200 meters and it turned on again, and when we got back over the object it didn’t work.'



Diver Peter Lindberg said: 'We have experienced things that I really couldn’t imagine and I have been the team's biggest skeptic regarding these different kind of theories.
'I was kind of prepared just to find a stone or cliff or outcrop or pile of mud but it was nothing like that, so for me it has been a missing experience I must say.'

Member Dennis Åsberg said: 'I am one hundred percent convinced and confident that we have found something that is very, very, very unique.
'Then if it is a meteorite or an asteroid, or a volcano, or a base from, say, a U-boat from the Cold War which has manufactured and placed there - or if it is a UFO...
'Well honestly it has to be something.'
The quotes were first reported at NDTV. The Mail Online has reached out to the Ocean X team for clarification.


whole bunch of pics at link..sorry feelin lazy - go look

yep there'smore

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fumXelkOCHI[/youtube]
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: micjer on June 26, 2012, 08:45:36 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUcEu7gZeBk&list=PLC88F361041EA6284&index=1&feature=plpp_video


Richard Hoagland on C2C  June 25 2012.  He discussed the mysterious object found on the floor of the Baltic Sea, and suggested that the torsion field given off by it caused the explorers' electronic measuring gear to shut down as they moved closer to it.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on June 26, 2012, 09:23:37 pm
Is this going to be the next big UFO Story to hit the media....

or is it a 2012 NWO Hoax....

Alex Jones had suggested that we may well see UFO hoaxs this year..
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 26, 2012, 09:29:53 pm
Yes, Astr0, that would be very true, as then we wont be watching for the real ones, or when they come down we wont believe it as the world cries wolf!

All I keep hearing is "false flag!false flag!" :o

I think if it was an active UFO, these guys wouldve gotten a warning, other than Em effects on their equipment. if it is an old UFo, the movie Alien comes to mind...

Richard is very hot on these torsion fields, but I dont know how powerful it could be unless it was parked on a nodal point. Unless of course it is a beacon of some kind, waiting to either call out when the time is right, or actually rise up and do its deed.

Fishy? Yep!

Ill get the batter and the deep fryer just in case!
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 26, 2012, 09:42:34 pm
'Anything electric out there - and the satellite phone as well - stopped working when we were above the object.
'And then we got away about 200 meters and it turned on again, and when we got back over the object it didn’t work.'

The sub is electric :P
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on June 26, 2012, 09:46:55 pm
The sub is electric :P
Good point, I call shenanigans!
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on June 27, 2012, 11:54:32 am
Some good comments and suggestions made ...

I have been a bit distracted lately to post in any detail or check threads as Id like...Hope to try and reply in more detail later.

I just found this, apologies if its already been posted.



http://screen.yahoo.com/a-millennium-falcon-shaped-alien-shipwreck-29805971.html?pb_list=23dce613-c500-43f0-9134-70e58b73187a
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: sky otter on June 29, 2012, 01:29:53 pm

 ;D
are we having a good laugh or what...lol




Baltic Sea 'sunken UFO' begins to smell
 like an elaborate scam

 Ocean explorers having hard time providing any details as media coverage grows

By Natalie Wolchover
 
updated 20 minutes ago
 2012-06-29T20:05:03
The ocean explorers who discovered a huge, UFO-shape object on the floor of the Baltic Sea last year are having a heck of a time figuring out what it is.

A suspiciously hard time, some would say.

The Swedish divers, who call themselves the Ocean X Team, claim the object is giving off electrical interference that keeps foiling their attempts to investigate it. "Anything electric out there — and the satellite phone as well — stopped working when we were above the object," said diver Stefan Hoberborn in an Ocean X press release. "And then we got away about 200 meters and it turned on again, and when we got back over the object it didn't work."

As a result, there is still only one sonar image in existence of the 200-foot-wide (60-meter-wide) object, which UFO believers say is a crashed flying saucer. According to experts in remote imaging and geology, however, that image is "lacking in resolution, detail and quantification," is riddled with "numerous processing artifacts" and looks like a spaceship only because the Ocean X team drew a Millennium Falcon-shape outline around it. Instead, the experts said, what the image shows is probably a roughly circular rock formation called a pillow basalt — rare, but very much of this world. [ Gallery: Images of 'Sunken UFO' ]

The alleged inability of the Ocean X team to provide more details of its seafloor " UFO " is only adding to the object's allure, judging by the upsurge of media coverage. But is the whole thing a scam?

Peter Lindberg, head of the Ocean X Team, either has let his imagination run wild or has an ulterior motive, according to Jonathon Hill, a researcher at the Mars Space Flight Facility at Arizona State University, who analyzes images of planetary surface features taken during NASA's Mars missions.

"Whenever people make extraordinary claims, it's always a good idea to consider for a moment whether they are personally benefiting from the claim or if it's a truly objective observation," Hill told Life's Little Mysteries.

"In this case, the team clearly has a lot to gain from an extraordinary claim," he said. "Mr. Lindberg is already making plans to take 'wealthy tourists' down in his submarine to view the object. If he had used a rock hammer to break off a small piece of the object, a geologist could have determined whether it was a pillow basalt in a few minutes. But if it turned out to be a pillow basalt and not a 'mysterious UFO-like object', Mr. Lindberg wouldn't have much of a business plan, would he?"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48018365/ns/technology_and_science-science/

Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: 1Worldwatcher on June 29, 2012, 01:48:43 pm
Quote
"Whenever people make extraordinary claims, it's always a good idea to consider for a moment whether they are personally benefiting from the claim or if it's a truly objective observation," Hill told Life's Little Mysteries.

"In this case, the team clearly has a lot to gain from an extraordinary claim," he said. "Mr. Lindberg is already making plans to take 'wealthy tourists' down in his submarine to view the object. If he had used a rock hammer to break off a small piece of the object, a geologist could have determined whether it was a pillow basalt in a few minutes. But if it turned out to be a pillow basalt and not a 'mysterious UFO-like object', Mr. Lindberg wouldn't have much of a business plan, would he?"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48018365/ns/technology_and_science-science/

I was kinding hoping this wouldn't happen, but ever since the release that they were going to commercialise this anomaly, I knew it was heading down the road of monetary instead of scientific.
I am not saying the find is not important, I am just conveying the truths gets lost in the muddling of such thing's and become grandiose for criticisms and the like.
Too Bad, had high hope of something other worldly being there, now deep pockets have once again thwarted any real discoveries by the way of commercialization of this site. "Bummer!"

1Worldwatcher
Global Moderator
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on July 01, 2012, 06:43:27 am
Im sure Obama already has a model of the anomaly on his desk as a crystal pen holder gift from Whoever really went down and found it.
LOL!
It turned into humanity's specialty...a money grab!

Damn greedy people!
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on July 01, 2012, 06:49:05 am
And We know the solution...  [smile]
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Linda Brown on July 01, 2012, 06:56:48 am
If it is "otherworldly.... then everything that we will hear from now on will be a cover for the real thing and that will consist of the charges that you are beginning to hear now... mainly disinformation to " Help you" overlook what has been found here.  Nothing to see here folks, move along , move along move along.  Linda
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on July 01, 2012, 07:00:11 am
Absolutely, Linda.  So...  How do We tell whether it's coverup or marketing...?  Hmmmm.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: rdunk on July 01, 2012, 07:02:49 am
And We know the solution...  [smile]

Yes we do!!!!! That will only happen when the God of this Universe decides to bring all of this "life" to an end, as he has "promised"! (ref Bible)  8) 8)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on July 01, 2012, 07:08:11 am
[smile] You see Your solution.  I see Mine.  From My view, I say We can do this Ourselves with a plan as outlined in The End of Entropy.  But I will not give Your solution a zero probability.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on July 01, 2012, 08:43:06 pm
And We know the solution...  [smile]
Show me the money...disappearing!LOL!
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on July 01, 2012, 11:56:22 pm
[*POOF*]  Working on it HARD!  [smile]
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on July 02, 2012, 12:56:10 am
[smile] You see Your solution.  I see Mine.  From My view, I say We can do this Ourselves with a plan as outlined in The End of Entropy.  But I will not give Your solution a zero probability.

Sorry but neither of your solutions would make any difference.

If all need for money was gone, that still wouldn't stop them coveting the Millenium Falcon 

And if that supposedly omnipotent being wants to wipe out all life on this old rock, well having that Millenium Falcon will be a nice little escape vehicle to get out of the path of that wrath

In the meantime back to reality....  ::)

The problem with running a big scam is that the bigger it gets, the harder will be the fall when its found out.

These guys are going to fall hard

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/d/dc/Melfal.jpg)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on July 02, 2012, 01:21:04 am
Gotta love Ya, Ron.  [smile]
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: rdunk on July 02, 2012, 09:49:54 am
Below is the first few comments in a Disclose.tv article on this subject. It is a lengthy article, and it does address where the "research" is at the present. It does make for an interesting read.

The link to the full article is below.

"BALTIC  ANOMALY UPDATE: THE WEIRD JUST GOT MUCH WEIRDER"

 • This is turning into one of the most amazing and perplexing discoveries
• Object is 200ft accross mushroom
• There are visible formations on top of the object
• Spherical object nicknamed The Meringue
• Ocean x-team exploring the unknown object
• Circular formations of rocks seems deliberate

June 28, 2012 - This is turning into one of the most amazing and perplexing discoveries in history. If you thought all of the questions surrounding the Baltic anomaly would be answered by the return trip, then you’d be wrong. The OceanX team have discovered right angles, walls with absolutely smooth surfaces and cavities-like corridors inside the object as well as something resembling a staircase – the weird just got weirder.



Read more: http://www.disclose.tv/news/Baltic_Anomaly_Update_The_weird_just_got_much_weirder/85447#ixzz1zTD6cyor
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on July 02, 2012, 01:59:20 pm
Another yonaguni, perhaps?
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rSf1fgQ6Ldg/Snjd5Tq2UiI/AAAAAAAACYk/nrStcCpKJfg/s400/yonaguni-model1.jpg)
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: sky otter on July 17, 2012, 04:54:41 pm

 ;D
hey guess what it is this week...hahahahah

Is the Baltic Sea UFO a Nazi Secret Weapon?
July 13, 2012 05:55 AM EDT

The so-called Baltic Sea UFO may in fact be a secret Nazi weapon from World War 2 designed to thwart British and Russian submarines and aircraft in the area. If so, it's still a significant historical find of weaponry lost in the fog of war.



Scientists reviewing data collected by Norwegian divers who visited the anomaly at the bottom of the sea believe the object to be a concrete base, covered in wire mesh, which was designed to block enemy radar and even causing ships and airplanes to lose their way, either crashing into the sea or sinking below the waves.

The super-secret WWII technology left behind few intact remnants and archaeologists are eager to raise the object for a closer look and to investigate how the German Reich approached a way to thwart enemy radar and sonar in their attempts to dominate the region militarily.

The findings seem to once and for all dispel the theory that the Baltic Sea UFO is evidence of ancient alien technology unintentionally left behind.

Until now adherents of the theory postulated the object could have been the remains of a spaceship which accidentally crashed into the sea.

It looks like the real explanation has a more earthly, and grisly, foundation.

What do you think?

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981470415

.......................................

Has 'UFO' at bottom of Baltic sea been ID'd?
May actually be top-secret Nazi anti-submarine trap lost since WWII
Published: 5 days ago

(London Daily Mail) Divers exploring a ‘UFO-shaped’ object in the Baltic sea say that the strange, curved object might be a Nazi device lost beneath the waves since the end of the Second World War.

Sonar scans have shown that the device, raised 10ft above the seabed and measuring 200ft by 25ft, could be the base of an anti-submarine weapon.

The weapon was built with wire mesh which could have baffled submarine radar, leading enemy craft to crash – much in the same way as turning out a lighthouse could be used as a weapon against shipping.

But now former Swedish naval officer and WWII expert Anders Autellus has revealed that the structure – measuring 200ft by 25ft – could be the base of a device designed to block British and Russian submarine movements in the area.

The huge steel-and-concrete structure could be one of the most important historical finds in years.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/has-ufo-at-bottom-of-baltic-sea-been-idd/?cat_orig=diversions

 :P ::) :-\
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Pimander on July 17, 2012, 05:10:30 pm
Still not a UFO though is it? 

I am happy to change the OP title for you if you decide what they have found. :D
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: sky otter on July 17, 2012, 07:00:46 pm


lol
wel if you change the title no one will have a clue what we are talking about

i think it's pretty cool the way this thing can morph from one thing to another
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on July 17, 2012, 08:29:07 pm
sky, I was thinking the same thing...  It's a UFO...No!  Wait!  It's a MUSHROOM!  Um.  No.  It has staircases and causes electronic to quit.  So it must be a UFO.  No, no!  Wait.  It's a Nazi weapon!  Yeah.  That's the ticket.  A Nazi ET mushroom with staircases that can be used as a weapon to take out electronics!

Oh brother.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on July 17, 2012, 08:53:38 pm
sky, I was thinking the same thing...  It's a UFO...No!  Wait!  It's a MUSHROOM!  Um.  No.  It has staircases and causes electronic to quit.  So it must be a UFO.  No, no!  Wait.  It's a Nazi weapon!  Yeah.  That's the ticket.  A Nazi ET mushroom with staircases that can be used as a weapon to take out electronics!

Oh brother.
Thank goodnes you cant see the video, Amy, theres three rings and a lion tamer!:-)
Dave
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Amaterasu on July 17, 2012, 09:09:14 pm
Heh.  I don't doubt, Dave.  [grin]
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: astr0144 on August 30, 2012, 02:46:47 pm
'Mysterious' Baltic Sea Object Is a Glacial Deposit
By Natalie Wolchover | LiveScience.com – 5 hrs ago


Update from yahoo...

Check out the photo.. 8)

(http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/News/LiveScience.com/illustration-baltic-sea.png1346340714)
Photo By Artist: Hauke Vagt, via YouTube user sonofmabarker
Illustration (NOT a photograph) of the Baltic Sea object that Peter Lindberg described as "the closest [depiction] so far."



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A feature on the floor of the Baltic Sea that was discovered last summer by Swedish treasure hunters is making headlines once again. The latest media coverage draws upon an hour-long radio interview with Peter Lindberg, head of the Ocean X Team (which made the "discovery"), in which Lindberg delivers a string of cryptic and titillating statements about the "strange" and "mysterious" seafloor object his team has been exploring for a year.

Lindberg discusses various possibilities for what the object might be: "It has these very strange stair formations, and if it is constructed, it must be constructed tens of thousands of years ago before the Ice Age," he said in the radio interview. (The peak of the most recent Ice Age occurred some 20,000 years ago.)

"If this is Atlantis, that would be quite amazing," he said. Atlantis is a mythical underwater city referred to in ancient legends.

Lindberg acknowledges that the object could instead be a natural formation, such as a meteorite that penetrated the ice during the Ice Age, or an underwater volcano; however, he gives the impression that scientists are baffled by it. Geologists, for example, have supposedly told him the object "cannot be a volcano." [Image Album: Baltic Sea 'Anomaly']

Also adding titillation, Lindberg says a documentary is being made about the seafloor anomaly — the location of which he has not disclosed — and he's saving some juicy details for the footage. "We're not telling everything," he said. "We will reveal some quite interesting things in the documentary."

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Closeup of sonar image of the "UFO" on the seafloor.

The divers recently gave samples of stone from the object to Volker Brüchert, an associate professor of geology at Stockholm University. Swedish tabloids quote Brüchert as saying: "I was surprised when I researched the material I found a great black stone that could be a volcanic rock. My hypothesis is that this object, this structure was formed during the Ice Age many thousands of years ago."

In other words, an expert appears to back up their claims that this seafloor object is unexplained, and perhaps is an Atlantis-like ancient building complex. To double check, Life's Little Mysteries consulted that expert. Turns out, neither he, nor any of the other experts contacted about the Baltic Sea object, think there is anything mysterious about it.

"It's good to hear critical voices about this 'Baltic Sea mystery,'" Brüchert wrote in an email. "What has been generously ignored by the Ocean-X team is that most of the samples they have brought up from the sea bottom are granites and gneisses and sandstones."

These, he explains, are exactly what one would expect to see in a glacial basin, which is what the Baltic Sea is — a region carved out by glacial ice long ago.

Along with the mundane rocks, the divers also gave him a single loose piece of basaltic rock, a type of rock that forms from hardened lava. This is out of place on the seafloor, but not unusual. "Because the whole northern Baltic region is so heavily influenced by glacial thawing processes, both the feature and the rock samples are likely to have formed in connection with glacial and postglacial processes," he wrote. "Possibly these rocks were transported there by glaciers."

Glaciers often have rocks embedded in them. At the end of the Ice Age, when glaciers across Northern Europe melted, the rocks inside them dropped to the Earth's surface, leaving rocky deposits all over the place. These are sometimes called glacial erratics or balancing rocks. [Gallery of the Weirdest Balancing Rocks]

Lindberg and the Ocean X Team did not respond to a request for comment on the glacial deposit theory.

Aside from a widely-reproduced illustration recently created by a graphics artist in which the Baltic seafloor object is rendered as a beautiful, Atlantis-like archaeological site, there has only ever been one actual image of the Baltic Sea object: the original sonar scan image captured by the divers last summer, in which the object resembles a crashed UFO spaceship. But experts told us that sonar image should be disregarded.

"The sonar image has numerous artifacts in it that make it difficult to interpret, and I would not place too much confidence in any interpretation until a better processing is done and the details of the type of sonar and particulars are provided," said seabed sonar-scanning expert Dan Fornari, a marine geologist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts. "I'm saying the data are lacking in resolution, detail and quantification."

The expert analysis suggests this is just a glacial deposit that the Ocean X Team "discovered" in a low-resolution sonar scan. Widespread media coverage, fame and a worldwide Internet following have since ensued. Lindberg laments the fact that no organizations will sponsor his investigation. Some organizations have supposedly told him funding the dives isn't worth their time because the anomaly "might be something very unexplainable." He asks people to support his and his fellow divers' work by purchasing apparel from the Ocean X website.

'Mysterious' Baltic Sea Object Is a Glacial Deposit (http://news.yahoo.com/mysterious-baltic-sea-object-glacial-deposit-154845865.html)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on September 01, 2012, 09:14:15 pm
I wish they gave this much press to the anomalous underwater structures west of Cuba.

Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Pimander on September 02, 2012, 01:07:12 pm
And I thought this story had died. :o
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on September 04, 2012, 06:06:48 am
And I thought this story had died. :o

Its trying, but they keep defibbing it for more profits!

LOL!
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: micjer on September 08, 2012, 05:13:54 am
I wish they gave this much press to the anomalous underwater structures west of Cuba.

Le

I agree.  Must be the real deal there then. 
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on September 08, 2012, 06:07:05 am
Real deal alright, Micjer, the Cuban government locked that one down!

An entire civilization almost a mile under the sea, and we are looking at this magic mushroom for months now like voyeurs at a peep show.

Old news, but a good link nevertheless...
http://ufoweek.com/2009/08/15/ancient-underwater-city-with-pyramid-near-cuba/

What a pathetic lot, our scientists are, and how mindless do they assume we are?

Oh, thats right...very! ;)

Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: micjer on September 08, 2012, 08:27:24 am
Kind of ironic that this ad appears on the link you provided!

http://www.atlantis.com/specials.aspx?CID=ban_Google_Goggles_Labor_Day_Save_65_082112

Ad for Atlantis Hotel.

This has been my thought that this may be the sunken city of Atlantis.  Kinda fits the myth.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on September 08, 2012, 08:44:07 am
Cool! Im not staying in any Atlantis...they have a dangerous track record!LOL!

As for the myth, I firmly believe that Plato had came up with one myth to describe all the cities that were lost in the floods and Atlantis itself was just allegory for those cities.

Just like the bible, the philosophers of Greece and Rome liked to make up grand tales oshare the esoteric knowledge...theres far more to Atlantis than Plato was willing to concede around his time...they may have offed him if he told the truth!

Cuba west is a good example of cities lost though...maybe even older tha Dwarka, and Yonaguni..

Cheers!
Le
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: Littleenki on November 29, 2012, 10:39:12 am
New imagery with a scrollable viewer.

http://www.clevr.com/pano/37601
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: robomont on November 29, 2012, 11:20:17 am
well if there was a greatflood,it never reached the top of the alps or the mummy up there came after the flood.+-5000years ago.but yet the sediment of the great river basins is only 4800 years old.
if atlantis was destroyed that way.
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on February 22, 2013, 12:48:53 pm
And I thought this story had died. :o

Nah flogging dead horses is an international sport :D

Seabed Baltic sea - Anomalie 1 & 2

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Reconstitution of the seabed of the Baltic Sea carried out with the sonar images revealed during the cruise conference OXT.

http://www.clevr.com/pano/37601
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: sky otter on June 07, 2013, 09:07:44 am

 :o

i didn't think there was anything left either..

sorry but i can't get the pics to copy...sigh.


http://truthfall.com/baltic-anomaly-evidence-of-ancient-mining-operation/



Baltic Anomaly: Evidence of Ancient Mining Operation?

Featured Article.Posted on May 30, 2013

The OceanX team recently came back from a long anticipated third voyage to the Baltic Anomaly site.  There were some very interesting and intriguing goings on which will be the subject of an upcoming post.  But for now, the following news on the analysis of rock samples deserves a post of it’s own given the potential implications.

 

 by Truthfall.com editor – Craig Brown

“It is not an object which is man made in modern time. What ever it is it’s either from during the ice age or pre-ice age.” – Peter Lindberg, February 24, 2013
 

Test Results Reveal Metal Composition of Samples

 

Using a technique known as Infrared Spectroscopy, a sample taken from the anomaly by one of the divers was brought back and then subsequently sent for analysis to the Weizmann institute in Israel. The results are very unexpected indeed. The results  indicate that a piece which was from the circle anomaly is made of Limonite and Goethite. These materials are part of the  Iron oxides/hydroxide family – “that it is metal” and that “these materials would most likely to be found in a modern construction”.


“Weizman institute said that it’s strange to have it in a structure like this and it’s more likely to find it in a modern shipwrecks (with metallic parts).I asked him: “So we can say that this thing is probably not of natural existence?” He think that it’s probably “modern” and not archaeological, something that someone built?”


The rock sample analysed by the Weizmann Institute
The spectroscopic graph below should be read as follows:

 

a= The black powder, originally a piece broken off by a diver, directly off the circle anomaly.

b= Another solid piece broken off by a diver, directly off the circle anomaly

c= Comparison to a “pure” Limonite


Weizmann Institute’s opinion is that it is strange to find these materials in a structure like this as these materials would most likely to be found in a modern construction, such as on a ship wreck in this case.
 
Editor’s Note: According to Wikipedia “Infrared spectroscopy (IR spectroscopy) is the spectroscopy that deals with the infrared region of the electromagnetic spectrum, that is light with a longer wavelength and lower frequency than visible light. It covers a range of techniques, mostly based on absorption spectroscopy. As with all spectroscopic techniques, it can be used to identify and study chemicals. A common laboratory instrument that uses this technique is a Fourier transform infrared (FTIR) spectrometer.”

 

Goethite
Goethite is primarily an Iron Ore. “It may also be precipitated by groundwater or in other sedimentary conditions, or form as a primary mineral in hydrothermal deposits”

 
Limonite
“Limonite is one of the two principle iron ores, the other being hematite, and has been mined for the production of iron since at least 2500 BCE.” …..”Although originally defined as a single mineral, limonite is now recognized as a mixture of related hydrated iron oxide minerals, among them goethite, akaganeite, lepidocrocite, and jarosite.” – source: Wikipedia. It is often the major iron component in lateritic soils. It is often deposited in run-off streams from mining operations.

 
Iron caps or gossans of siliceous iron oxide typically form as the result of intensive oxidation of sulfide ore deposits.[10] These gossans were used by prospectors as guides to buried ore. In addition the oxidation of those sulfide deposits which contained gold, often resulted in the concentration of gold in the iron oxide and quartz of the gossans. Goldbearing limonite gossans were productively mined in the Shasta County, California mining district.[10] Similar deposits were mined near Rio Tinto in Spain and Mount Morgan in Australia. In the Dahlonega gold belt in Lumpkin County, Georgia gold was mined from limonite-rich lateritic or saprolite soil. The gold of the primary veins was concentrated into the limonites of the deeply weathered rocks. In another example the deeply weathered iron formations of Brazil served to concentrate gold with the limonite of the resulting soils.


Transception Remote Viewers
 

These minerals found in samples of the anomaly and lying close by are Iron Ores, one of which gold can be frequently be found within.  Other samples like these have been found to have the appearance of being ‘burnt’ or to have been superheated.  It is interesting to note that back in 2012 a team of military trained remote viewers spent hours analysing this target – their conclusion published many months before this data was released was as follows -


“TRANSCEPTION’s preliminary analysis of the seven sessions specifically tasked against the Baltic Sea USO target (plus another one based on directly related tasking), suggests that the site is a complex of structures–a mining/production/resupply facility–among other things, centered around a special type of “lock” (described by the viewers as being “like” a “dam”, “barrier”, “missile silo”, and even Han Solo’s “moon tube”), mechanically operated and comprising, at least in part, a cluster of densely packed, hydraulic levers that arc energetically back and forth, controlling the flow of a liquid (most likely water) used in the production of a much needed viscous, energetic, oil-like substance, dark in color and possibly toxic, with constituent and extremely valuable elements/materials mined locally.” – link


The Baltic Sea has been through many geological changes and periods. It was once cut off from the saltwater ocean and was called Ancylus Lake 8,000 – 9,500 years ago. Tracing back through history reveals it has likely been covered by ice or water for at least 130,000 years when it was known as the Eemian Sea.  So if the anomaly is constructed (which is what the evidence so far suggests), then any construction would pre-date the pyramids in Egypt by at least 120,000 years.

More information and scientific study is certainly needed to make an exact determination as to the nature of this site, it’s purpose and to answer the question of who built it, but the latest analysis of these samples is very intriguing to say the least and could pave the way for establishing a link with our long forgotten past and perhaps great civilizations that came and went.

Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: jonwilliams on June 27, 2013, 08:53:37 pm
There is an international movement that has started to try and get the funding needed to identify this object.  It just started a few days ago.

If you are truly interested show a little support and lets find the truth!  The world wants to know!

www.divefortruth.com
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: zorgon on June 28, 2013, 02:07:09 pm
Why do they need more funding? They already went down their with a sub that costs more than my house?  Those guys are treasure divers...  I bet they fetch more for one bottle they pull up than I make in a year.

Raising money to take a look at a rock formation? If there was really anything but a rock there they would be all over it to claim the prize

 ::)
Title: Re: UFO Found In Baltic Sea?
Post by: onetruekeeper on October 06, 2014, 08:50:19 am
Why don't they use acoustic analysis to determine if this thing is hollow or just solid rock?