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Offline micjer

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Re: new sandyhook info
« Reply #405 on: April 10, 2017, 05:32:59 pm »
I stand corrected the arrow that you show does point south.

Here is the deal.  I went on google earth and the imagery I just realized is from 2016.  You can change it to 2014.  There is now a new school built there on a different angle.  The angle effect on the new school would make it look like morning.  I have to agree that the photo was more likely taken in the evening on the 2014 photo. 

It is good to double check things.  Not everything posted on the internet is correct, you know!  Haha
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Re: new sandyhook info
« Reply #406 on: April 10, 2017, 06:35:27 pm »
Here is a picture of the new Sandy Hook Elementary School.

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Re: new sandyhook info
« Reply #407 on: April 10, 2017, 07:08:25 pm »
I stand corrected the arrow that you show does point south.

Here is the deal.  I went on google earth and the imagery I just realized is from 2016.  You can change it to 2014.  There is now a new school built there on a different angle.  The angle effect on the new school would make it look like morning.  I have to agree that the photo was more likely taken in the evening on the 2014 photo. 

It is good to double check things.  Not everything posted on the internet is correct, you know!  Haha



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Re: new sandyhook info
« Reply #408 on: April 11, 2017, 09:23:00 am »
I'm sorry, but I think it's the height of stupidity to demolish and rebuild a perfectly good school.

People turn into complete retards when it comes to children.

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Re: new sandyhook info
« Reply #409 on: April 11, 2017, 06:56:00 pm »
I'm sorry, but I think it's the height of stupidity to demolish and rebuild a perfectly good school.

People turn into complete retards when it comes to children.

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« Reply #410 on: April 11, 2017, 07:04:58 pm »
That's how you bury evidence.

It's deplorable how they use these actors to pull off their false flags.

It was a false flag wasn't it?  No one was killed except the shooter is that right.
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Re: new sandyhook info
« Reply #411 on: April 11, 2017, 07:07:29 pm »
Wish I really knew Biggles.  It's hard to really prove anything the way things get muddy from all the different sources.  Just a awful lot of things do not add up.
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Re: new sandyhook info
« Reply #412 on: April 11, 2017, 07:13:29 pm »
Wish I really knew Biggles.  It's hard to really prove anything the way things get muddy from all the different sources.  Just a awful lot of things do not add up.

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Re: new sandyhook info
« Reply #413 on: April 12, 2017, 12:58:59 am »
I'm sorry, but I think it's the height of stupidity to demolish and rebuild a perfectly good school.
That's one of the things that makes even a sceptic like me think that there was more than was presented to the common people.

I don't have any idea of what that may be.

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Re: new sandyhook info
« Reply #414 on: April 12, 2017, 03:39:08 am »
That's one of the things that makes even a sceptic like me think that there was more than was presented to the common people.

I don't have any idea of what that may be.
Nothing about this whole affair makes any sense what so ever...

like all those crime scene photos that don't show any blood or bullet holes?

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Re: new sandyhook info
« Reply #415 on: April 12, 2017, 04:34:27 am »
Well at least they could have hired some better actors!

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« Reply #416 on: April 12, 2017, 05:23:35 am »
Well at least they could have hired some better actors!

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Re: new sandyhook info
« Reply #417 on: April 12, 2017, 08:03:07 am »
It's deplorable how they use these actors to pull off their false flags.

It was a false flag wasn't it?  No one was killed except the shooter is that right.

As far as I can tell, there was no shooter.  The images of Him were badly photoshopped, or of Ryan when He was younger.  The school had asbestos warnings posted, zero web activity for three years, showed signs of flood damage, had wires and plumbing hanging loose, was filled with stuff as a storage facility would be, had all the doors' locks drilled out, had no handicapped provisions as required by law, and more proving the school was NOT in use at the time.

Interestingly...  The east coast headquarters for the church of satan are in Newtown...  What are the odds...
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Re: new sandyhook info
« Reply #418 on: April 12, 2017, 10:53:50 am »
That's how you bury evidence.

This makes more sense.
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Re: new sandyhook info
« Reply #419 on: June 18, 2019, 07:30:53 am »


this needs to put here.. conspiracy theories are usually a good mental workout but when this kind of hate is pushed so hard it is wrong...
and sadly bought by folks without really looking at why and what these hateful people are doing...just to get personal attention



and yes Z it is huff post but also found on other sources



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POLITICS 06/18/2019 07:35 am ET Updated 2 hours ago
Pat Eaton-Robb
Father Of Sandy Hook Victim Wins Defamation Suit Against Hoaxers
Lenny Pozner’s 6-year-old son Noah died in the shooting. Two authors wrote a book saying it never happened.


video of father speaking..and worth the listen

HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — The father of a victim of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre has won a defamation lawsuit against the authors of a book that claimed the shooting never happened — the latest victory for victims’ relatives who have been taking a more aggressive stance against conspiracy theorists.

The book, “Nobody Died at Sandy Hook,” has also been pulled to settle claims against its publisher filed by Lenny Pozner, whose 6-year-old son Noah was killed in the shooting.

“My face-to-face interactions with Mr. Pozner have led me to believe that Mr. Pozner is telling the truth about the death of his son,” Dave Gahary, the principal officer at publisher Moon Rock Books, said Monday. “I extend my most heartfelt and sincere apology to the Pozner family.”

A judge in Wisconsin on Monday issued a summary judgment against authors James Fetzer and Mike Palacek.

Pozner has been pushing back for years against hoaxers who have harassed him, subjected him to death threats and claimed that he was an actor and his son never existed. He has spent years getting Facebook and others to remove conspiracy videos and set up a website to debunk conspiracy theories.

Lately, the fight has been joined by others who lost relatives in the Dec. 14, 2012, school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. After quietly enduring harassment and ridiculous assertions for years, some have changed their approach, deciding the only way to stop it is to confront it. Their efforts have turned the tables on the hoaxers, including Alex Jones , host of the conspiracy-driven Infowars website.

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Robbie Parker, whose 6-year-old daughter Emilie was among 20 first-graders and six educators killed at Sandy Hook, spent years ignoring people who called him a crisis actor. His family moved to the West Coast, but still the harassment didn’t stop. He would get letters from people who found his address. He was once stopped in a parking garage by a man who berated him and said the shooting never happened.

“You are taught when you are young that you ignore bullies and eventually they will leave you alone,” Parker said. “But as time went on, and my other girls were getting older, I realized they weren’t stopping and some of this was getting worse and getting more personal.”

Parker is now part of a lawsuit against Jones, has testified before Congress and pushed for changes on social media platforms, such as YouTube, which announced this month it will prohibit videos that deny the Sandy Hook shooting and other “well-documented events.”

“It wasn’t until the lawsuits and until it became a mainstream news story that people realized they were being complicit in this and started to moderate the content,” Parker said.

Pozner is the lead plaintiff in several of at least nine cases filed against Sandy Hook deniers in federal and state courts in Connecticut, Florida, Texas and Wisconsin.

In the case against Jones, the families of eight victims and a first responder say they’ve been subjected to harassment and death threats from his followers. A Connecticut judge ruled in the defamation case that Jones must undergo a sworn deposition, which is scheduled for July in Texas.

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Wisconsin’s Dane County Circuit Court Judge Frank Remington ruled Monday that Pozner had been defamed by Fetzer and Palacek, whose book claimed, among other things, that Noah’s death certificate had been faked, according to Pozner’s lawyer, Jake Zimmerman. A trial to decide damages has been set for October.

“If Mr. Fetzer wants to believe that Sandy Hook never happened and that we are all crisis actors, even that my son never existed, he has the right to be wrong. But he doesn’t have the right to broadcast those beliefs if they defame me or harass me,” Pozner said. “He doesn’t have the right to use my baby’s image or our name as a marketing ploy to raise donations or sell his products. He doesn’t have the right to convince others to hunt my family.”

Before the case went to a judge, Fetzer had said “evidence clearly shows this wasn’t a massacre, it was a FEMA drill.”

“If you believe otherwise, then you are being played,” Fetzer said at the time.

A redacted copy of the actual death certificate is attached to Pozner’s lawsuit. Additionally, Pozner has had DNA samples taken and compared with those provided by the Connecticut medical examiner to prove that Noah was his son. He has put Noah’s birth certificate, report cards and medical records into the public file in his legal actions.

His goal, he says, is to make sure that “normal people” have access to the truth and aren’t persuaded by the hoaxers.

A Florida woman, Lucy Richards, was sentenced to five months in prison for sending Pozner death threats. She was also banned from visiting web sites run by conspiracy theorists, including Fetzer.

Christopher Mattei, a lawyer who represents the families in their Connecticut lawsuit against Jones, said his clients want to live their lives free from that kind of harassment. They also want these hoaxers to know they are affecting real people, who have already been emotionally devastated. “When the grief process includes having to justify your grief or having to prove your child’s existence,” he said, “it makes it very difficult.”


 


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