not only EM but cosmic rays etc.
I think TT Brown's rocks would have some pretty good advice to share with us..remember rock fm anyone? PWM?yes i do, and you must have your telepathy switched on again Dave, because i have been studying some docs on that very subject, about 2000 pages to be exact :P
Relic and other HFGWs were the subjects discussed at the Second
International HFGW Workshop (http://earthtech.org/hfgw2/) held at the Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin (IASA), Texas in September of 2007. Scientists from the United States, China, Russia and Italy presented and discussed their HFGW research.
Presentations included Ultra-High Sensitivity HFGW detectors
(with sensitivities that might reach HFGW amplitudes as small as 10-34), means of generating HFGWs in the laboratory using long arrays of piezoelectric crystals.
(similar to the earlier work of Dehnen and Romero-Borja presented at the first
HFGW Conference and based upon rigorous general relativistic analyses) using
off-the-shelf components producing HFGW amplitudes of 10-24 to 10-32 and studies by Rudenko and Grishchuk that proved the existence of HFGW relic gravitational radiation.
Hey,starwarp,just trying to undo all my working knowledge of how electricity works.
Then I saw your signature.
Once physicists grabbed hold of electricity all knowledge of it ceased. Electrons have nothing to do with the flow of electricity. Electrons are the rate at which electricity is destroyed. Electrons are the resistance.
So,if electrons are destroyed,which is plausible,how do they get there? do they flow there or not.do they just go poof and they are gone?
I'm just an old elevator dude with an associate degree in electronics from 30 years ago.
So,
I'm willing to learn.
Thank you for that reply.
This old dog and the old ways I was taught ,well,I have to do some re-thinking.
Thank you.
Peace,
K
Velemann (or Velleman) do a small pocket scope for less than 100 bucks, or you could try boot fairs/yard sales etc.
You never know what you will find, i bought my first scope for 10 bucks 8)
the seller said he didn't know if it worked or not.
Turns out it worked fine, only the 'X' axis was set off-screen :o ::) :P
Hey all
Thanks for all the replies. That bug is still kicking my but so bad that I cant focus.
LE or Dave if you dont mind me calling you that. I know that you are an artist so here is a link about Schumann freq that you should check out.
http://viewzone.com/schuman.html
Thanks Luke
Bless
Shawn
Hey WW1
Shawn is fine with me in these private areas. As Dave says just don't call me late for supper :)
As far as my health, my thyroid crapped out again like it did 10 years ago. It was not putting any thing out. I am om a 30 day jump start back again and hope it last another 10 years.
This is the first day in over 2 weeks that I am able to focus. I want to jump over to the Schumann discussion and give my input before I falter because it is related to this thread. Also I can feel the meds wearing off. I hope to post more on this thread as I get better.
Bless
Shawn
OK I have not figured out the audio squared thing yet so help pleaseI imagine he means the squares of those numbers as audio frequencies;
The other part I am all on it.Very pleased to hear it :D
That is why I am so intrested in the earths frequencies and Schumann.Me too, we need to gather more data on this (at least i should).
I still want a copy of that book :P
I have some excerpts, though, saved as .txt files... ::)
here's a pdf i had lying around...
Bearden Precursor (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/FreeNRG/Bearden/BeardenPrecursor.pdf)
Further, the Time-reversed Wave continually converges upon its "Invisible back tracking" Path. It does not diverge or spread its energy, in contradistinction to normal waves.
Solution to the Problem of the Connection Between Field and Source8)
We use the foregoing hypothesis to propose a solution to a previously unsolved major foundations problem in electrodynamics. Quoting Sen {15}:
"The connection between the field and its source has always been and still
is the most difficult problem in classical and quantum electrodynamics."
The problem really lies in how we approach the notion of the "source charge", since the usual classical electrodynamics does not model the interaction of the vacuum and the charge {16}.
With no active vacuum input to the charge, the received crippled and
fragmentary model of electrodynamics implies that the charge not only creates the fields and potentials which surround it, but also creates out of nothing all that EM energy comprising those associated fields and potentials. Since energy can neither be created nor destroyed, but only changed in form, the convSo the problementional notion that the source charge produces its associated fields and potentials and EM energy, in the absence of any interaction with the vacuum, is a non sequitur. is that the conventional model eliminates the vacuum interaction.
Hence that model must grossly violate the conservation of energy law in its view of the charge as the source of fields and potentials and their energy. In short, it simply posits an output of EM energy without any energy input or change in state of the charge.
Experimentally, of course, it is easily shown that EM energy does pour out of that charge, creating all its associated fields and potentials which do appear around it. Just create a charge (e.g., as in pair production), and measure the resulting outflow of the fields and potentials and EM energy from it, at the speed of light in all directions.
However, the charge alone cannot be a true source, since rigorously there can be no such thing! As Semiz {17} puts it:
"The very expression 'energy source' is actually a misnomer. As is known
since the early days of thermodynamics, and formulated as the first law,
energy is conserved in any physical process. Since energy cannot be
created or destroyed, nothing can be an energy source, or sink. Devices
we call energy sources do not create energy, they convert it from a form
not suitable for our needs to a form that is suitable, a form we can do
work with."
We really do not have energy sources as such in nature, even though we sloppily use that term. Instead, we actually have energy transducers.A priori, since we measure no real 3-space input of EM energy to the unchanging charge but we can measure real 3-space EM energy pouring from it, energy must be input to it from the active vacuum in a nonobservable form, and converted by it into an observable form that is re-emitted, usable, and produces what we call the "fields and potentials" and their energy, associated with that "source charge". As is common usage, we will use the term "source charge" or "source dipole", but with the understanding that we refer to a special kind of energy transducer.
Hey all
1WW
I want to thank you for your support and incouragement. I am still thinking about the link you gave me and what you wanted me to learn from it.
I am thinking that you are sugesting that my ground should be in a triangle shape. Can do.
My second thought is the the north and south orenitation does matter. PWM thinks it doesnt.
I did a little research on ground batteries , enough to make me think that it is possiable that the north and south does matter. If we are on the same page then we need to deside what type of metal to use at each ground point to take advantage of this. Bless Back
Lord Kelvin observed that such variables as placement of the electrodes in the magnetic field and the direction of the medium's flow affected the current output of his device. Such variables do not affect battery operation. When metal plates are immersed in a liquid medium, energy can be obtained and generated, including (but not limited to) methods known via magneto-hydrodynamic generators. In the various experiments by Lord Kelvin, metal plates were symmetrically perpendicular to the direction of the medium's flow and were carefully placed with respect to a magnetic field, which differentially deflected electrons from the flowing stream. The electrodes can be asymmetrically oriented with respect to the source of energy, though.
To obtain the natural electricity, experimenters would thrust two metal plates into the ground at a certain distance from each other in the direction of a magnetic meridian, or astronomical meridian. The stronger currents flow from south to north. This phenomenon possesses a considerable uniformity of current strength and voltage. As the Earth currents flow from south to north, electrodes are positioned, beginning in the south and ending in the north, to increase the voltage at as large a distance as possible.
You could try this thread at Energetic Forum first:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/2209-earth-battery-sg.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/2209-earth-battery-sg.html)
Hey all
1WW
I did a basic survey and with all the rain that we have had this year the data is use less. The new ground that I installed is probally in the water table just a few feet away from my cave. So maybe and probally I am going about this the wrong way.
good ground and a good airiel like a pointed rod or wire.is all that is necessary to get a voltage reading.
Hey All
1WW please post the other pic. that I sent you so Robo can see. Rain again today so no good readings. My comp is locking up and I havent figured it out yet.
Bless
Back
U.S. Patent 0,645,576[4] - System of Transmission of Electrical Energy - 1900 March 20 - Commonly referred to as the radio patent; Related to wireless telegraphy; Wireless transmission of electric power through the natural media; Cites well known radiant energy phenomena and the experiments of William Crookes; Corrects previous errors in theory of behavior when used by the methods and means of Mr. Tesla; Discovery of highly important and useful facts which heretofore have been unknown; Deprive dialectic of air when impressing electromotive forces of a certain character and magnitude unto it; Conductivity of the air increases with the augmentation of the pressure and the rarefaction; Law of conductivity of the air is quite different from heretofore established; Illustrations of the facts.
Apparatus for converting radio frequency energy to direct current
US 4685047 A
ABSTRACT
Apparatus for and methods of converting radio frequency energy into direct current for generating electric power includes a dipolar antenna for receiving radio frequency energy and a circuit connected thereto for converting the radio frequency energy to direct current. The circuit has a positive output line connected to one pole of the antenna and a negative output line connected to the other pole of the antenna. A positive transmitting diode is in the positive output line and a negative transmitting diode is in the negative output line. First and second bus lines and a pair of tuned circuits of opposite polarity couple the positive output line and negative line to the bus line with one of the bus lines being connected to ground. Each tuned circuit includes a first bridging line connecting the positive output line to the first and second ground lines and a second bridging line connecting the negative output line to the first and second ground lines. Each bridging line has a diode therein oriented at a polarity which is reverse with respect to the input diode. The bridging lines of each tuned circuit are connected to one another by an inductance and have capacitors disposed between the diode and the bus lines. A direct current device is connected to the positive line of the circuit.
Having described my invention, what I claim is—
1. The method of utilizing radiant energy, which consists in charging one of the armatures of a condenser by rays or radiations, and the other armature by independent means, and discharging the condenser through a suitable receiver, as set forth.
2. The method of utilizing radiant energy, which consists in simultaneously charging a condenser by means of rays or radiations and an independent source of electrical energy, and discharging the condenser through a suitable receiver, as set forth.
3. The method of utilizing radiant energy, which consists in charging one of the armatures of a condenser by rays or radiations, and the other by independent means, controlling the action or effect of said rays or radiations and discharging the condenser through a suitable receiver, as set forth.
4. The method of utilizing radiant energy, which consists in charging one of the armatures of a condenser by rays or radiations and the other by independent means, varying the intensity of the said rays or radiations and periodically discharging the condenser through a suitable receiver, as set forth.
5. The method of utilizing radiant energy, which consists in directing upon an elevated conductor, connected to one of the armatures of a condenser, rays or radiations capable of positively electrifying the same, carrying off electricity from the other armature by connecting the same with the ground, and discharging the accumulated energy through a suitable receiver, as set forth.
6. The method of utilizing radiant energy, which consists in charging one of the armatures of a condenser by rays or radiations, and the other by independent means, and effecting by the automatic discharge of the accumulated energy the operation or control of a suitable receiver, as set forth.
Energetic forums are a great bunch, we should liase more often ::)
So you see for every possible source we have both a 'static' or D.C. and a 'dynamic' or A.C. component.
Steinmetz has done something similar with his math, which i find not only genius, but also very funny, it's so very close to Maxwells original 'quaternions' but at the same time extremely refined.
it gets interesting, i remember a guy calles Stubblefield who-presumably having read some of Teslas stuff or been to his lectures- had invented something called an 'earth telephone'.
This device not only got it's power from the ground, but it also transmitted signals through it!
back .i am not trying to offend you so please dont take this personally.
i had to stop after the second page of lies.that thing is loaded with inaccuracies.
there is no way lightning is 300,000 vdc.the ground where it hit would be molten and radioactive.a lightning strike.300,000vdc x 2000 amps is 600,000,000 watts or 600,000 kilowatts of power.and because of that level of voltage radiation would be created.think small nuke.alpha beta and gamma.
second his ohm details are exactly backwards.ohms are resistence and saying dry ground has almost no resitence to electricity.in fairly land maybe.
at least now you know.
Vaporized copper wiring and lightning strike is something to be concerned about doing these tests, but at the end of the day, it is not desired expectation's of the test when running a Simple radiant receiver to try and accommodate 100W power supply.
there is a lot of Geometry involved with all thing's considered static, and whether you confide in my abilities as a researcher or not, the proposition of adding Geometry to the lay of the land will bear fruitful results, we just have to connect these lines of interest.
As you had stated, orientation may very well be the big player on the field for acclimating such desired effects. Using the EMF Detector would just make that more efficient with in our personal research and understanding as too 'IF' it does make that much of a difference.
By creating a dipole (potential difference or 'voltage') you are creating a small imbalance, & Nature supplies the energy to try & correct it.
The more unbalanced you make a system, the more energy will be expended by nature to correct it.
i dont know the hvac side of stuff.like the tesla coil.
someone suggested big metal ball.big balls are great for storing charge .points are good for collecting.but i may be wrong.just what i think i read.maybe back could test the theory.
also pwms comment earlier about 60hz.im curious if that frequency has alot of energy in it.thats power lines and human eyesight.
Any single Signal we read from any meter, oscilloscope or compass is a reading of all these forms of natural energy combined, though, with the compass, it is the natural strongest reading due to the polarities of our planet, which by the way is the simplest of all gadgetry and yet can give you precise oriented readings of directional manipulation, provided one isn't in the "Zone of silence" or any other one of Earth's Magnetic weird spots.
I have no plan at this time for a spark gap. If we can get the voltage up I will play with it for 2 reasons. Safty and incase the shtf and there is no solid state devices.
The 98 hz that I am getting did come and we were poth puzzled about. I need to take my mobile antenna and place it about 200 ft south of my main antenna and run an extension cord for my oscope to see if I am still getting the 98 hz signal. It will rule out any interferiances that might be comming from my shop.
This is VERY important if above is verified.
Lets talkAbout the Schuman Frequencies.
The stander thought is the fundimental is 7.83 OK the next is plus 6.5 this I have neer under stound. if it is harmonic it should be 15.66 not 14.3 so if we follow the standard of 6.5 if you add it up you do find 98 hz in the list
Yes, but i heard that the schumann is speeding up & is currently around 18=19 Hz, so the harmonics etc will also have changed.
We really do need some kind of unilateral measurements performed by the members here, at least that way we will have a vague pic of the freq's & voltages present around the world...........but i would think somebody has already done that, we need to find their data ;)
The Spectrogram Calendar displays data from the magnetic field detectors deployed by the Global Coherence Initiative research team to monitor the resonances occurring in the plasma waves constantly circling the earth in the ionosphere.
These daily spectrograms show the activity occurring at the various resonant frequencies from 1 to 50 Hz. Within the spectrogram, the power, or intensity level of each frequency is displayed as a color, with yellow being the most intense. The Schumann resonances appear as the horizontal lines at 7.8,14, 20, 26, 33 & 39 Hz.
In this calendar, each day begins at midnight UTC (Coordinated Universal Time).
just my opinion.gci is a scam and that web owner is batpoop crazy.
hell.i didnt even know schumann resonance was real.i wiki and it states that schumann will only get 300microvolts wheras static can get 150volts.big difference in powerper square meter.
my apologies.i recognize it as elf.i didnt know they had a name tied to it.
These daily spectrograms show the activity occurring at the various resonant frequencies from 1 to 50 Hz. Within the spectrogram, the power, or intensity level of each frequency is displayed as a color, with yellow being the most intense. The Schumann resonances appear as the horizontal lines at 7.8,14, 20, 26, 33 & 39 Hz.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances)wikipedia schumann resonance i think.under measurements
Global Consciousness Project – Random Network Variance
The Global Consciousness Project maintains a global network of Random Number Generators; this network has shown non-random activity during widely shared experiences of deeply engaging events. This network is designed to document and display any subtle, but direct effects of our collective consciousness reacting to global events. The research hypothesis predicts the appearance of coherence and structure in the globally distributed data collected during major events that emotionally engage the world population.
The above strip chart displays a 24 hour moving window sum of the variance of the networks generators. Each point on the chart represents the cumulative sum of the random output from the GCP RNG network over the past 24 hours with a resolution of 1-minute. The display can be scaled to show the previous 7, 14, 21 or 28 days of data with the drop down menu in the lower right section of the display. Horizontal red lines represent 95% and 99% confidence intervals for expected range of the network output. While deviations above and below these lines can still be expected from the randomly fluctuating output of the network they are expected to be infrequent. Consistent deviations from randomness correlating with collective consciousness reactions to global events may represent the impact of consciousness on the network.
It's either not enough antenna, not enough earth, or too low a resistance in the circuit.
That last one is normally the culprit, you need to 'open' the circuit somehow & monitor the caps as they charge
Each of these cycles of Creation
runs 20 times faster than the last one.
The same amount of Creation is paced 20 times tighter.
This is why time seems to be going so fast.
It is not “time” but Creation itself that is accelerating.
7. The problem I see is that the ground has an AC component to it because of
the 50 Hz grid power so without a FWBR the cap is driven negative by the
ground I think. With a bigger higher plate the ground AC would not be such an
issue. But with low potentials, the ground AC can negate the plate input
because the ground AC can be in the 100's of mV range.
Basically for these thing to work well they would need to be very carefully
constructed with very low loss parts and while taking into account the
activity in the ground. The cap needs to be exposed to DC only,
the ground AC applied should be less potential than the resultant DC supplied
to the cap over the same time period. The ground is not a steady DC potential.
Applying 100 mW DC to a cap that is exposed to 200 mW PP AC will have little
effect the AC will discharge the capacitor.
Hanging the plate from non conductive support wire's will insulate the plate
from it's mounting pole apparatus ect. as well as isolate it from the ground
except for through the capacitor.
Cheers
All earthing points need to assemble at one place, namely the reciever or caps.
If you have a 'triangle' instead of a 'star' type wiring, you will have a loop which picks up AC (yes even in the ground wire
I was wondering how far away should my ground and antenna leads coming into my shop shouuld be
Yes I have thought long about harvesting the AC but when all is said and done I would still be connected to the grid. If it is true that the ground AC is what is causing me to be not to me able to get a higher DC charge from the the potential that is there then I need to get rid of it if I can