there is a show called idiocracy and another called wally.both show what happens to humans who are slothful.the world already has all we need to survive but folks are ignorant and that comes from being slothful.in the new world order the slothful will be put to work at happy camps.thats why all this talk about our soldiers turning on us is a joke.most are so stupid and lazy my teenage daughter could easily take one out.sure there will be a few pumped soldiers but most are sissies.thats why we use more drones.way more reliable.then theres the donut eater cops.put cuffs on or pull trigger then eat more donuts.we here are the real heroes of this country and world.mind over muscle everytime.
useless eaters and your breathing my oxygen comes to mind.if robots serve us all we turn into big bags of fat overbreading like roaches and dumbing down society.ameritsu or amy as we call her believes as you.the two of you could cheer each other on in your quest for utopia but it will only happen through brains and brawn.which equals work.imho
useless eaters and your breathing my oxygen comes to mind.if robots serve us all we turn into big bags of fat overbreading like roaches and dumbing down society.ameritsu or amy as we call her believes as you.the two of you could cheer each other on in your quest for utopia but it will only happen through brains and brawn.which equals work.imho
i for one would love to dig for bones and would give my services freely as long as someone payed for my clothes food shelter transportation while i dig for bones but i dont see that happening.i just dont visualize this free world we talk about.i wholly support the idea but i just dont visualize it coming to be.
I'm ready to protect myself by any means. but i would like to believe there is a peaceful solution. Endless wars throughout history have brought us to where we are today. We are a feisty race, that is for sure. If we can find another way, humanity can take the next step. I would love to see the elevation of our species during my life, that would be totally kickass!
...while obama hides out in denver.
z, the reason past utopias failed is because they did not have three things We have just now in the Human history We know of.
Humans like to PLAY at war. And like I have said, there is likely to be a LOT of THAT.
But aside from that the tensions inherent in scarcity are what causes the emergence of greed, envy, motive to defraud, motive to hide advances (i.e., cures), and other behaviors that will lose motives when abundance flows and money is not needed.
Rock
P.S. Damn I open my mouth again on a subject that I know nothing about...oops :P
Perhaps in your knowledge. But in my world ours is the FIFTH civilization and Atlantis (the 4th.. not merely a lost island) had free energy. The Greeks had robots.. called automatrons... knowledge left over from the 4th civilization.
How about we skip the total nuclear annihilation thing this time :P
Not true in all cases. Take Helen of Troy for example... there you have two kingdoms that were rich and powerful... Those guys could have had any woman they wanted... but they both wanted ONE woman... and your Abundance Paradign cannot fix that desire... and because of THAT desire, all the greed hatred and envy came to a head to a point that nearly wiped out both kingdoms.
The point is all it takes is ONE situation like that triggered by ONE individual that NO ONE was able to stop. History is full of them... there will always be another one
My take on all of this. Why is there someone out there that thinks THEY know how to live YOUR life? They instinctively know that what you're doing is wrong. They see a problem and viola! they know a better way. They know the reasons you act the way you do. And that can't be good. Look at all the problems; They know how to fix things! Mankind does not change, at least the basic instinct part. There will always be wars, famine, pestilence, no matter how 'evolved' we become. There will always be problems and wait...there will always be someone who knows best!
Leave me the hell alone!... ;)
Rock
P.S. Damn I open my mouth again on a subject that I know nothing about...oops :P
We are in the first of three paradigms theoretically existing between pain and plenty. We're still in pain mode, where the elite rule us, we are servants of the system and are limited in every way imaginable.
Next we move to a transition between pain and what I call the free mode...which is a little ways off yet. In this transition from pain to freedom we are seizing back control of our government, as well as our individual selves. In paradigm two we are sovereign individuals unfettered by borders or limits except one--DO NO HARM, the universal law. Transition implies we are currently engaged in defeating our limitations and control itself, freeing us to imagine, invent and plan for better tomorrows. Once we've gotten control of ourselves, paradigm two looks great!
Paradigm two will be the impetus for a transition into paradigm three, a situation in which we have no need of money, energy is everywhere and free to use, robots do all tasks people would rather not do and we are riding around in electrogravitic vehicles with the ultimate in crash avoidance technology. We'll have urges to visit friends on other planets and show up hours later for lunch.
It is useful (for me anyway) to stay focused in the current paradigm with my eye on the prize--paradigm three. Jumping the gun in conversation can lead to misunderstandings. If I'm a paradigm three thinker but am still working out the bugs and frustrations of transitioning to paradigm two, or talking about robots doing the tedious work etcetera I seem like a dreamer, and I am, but those who don't dream as fast as me are left wondering how much of that stuff I smoked!
I want to see people becoming excited about the prospect of becoming galactic beings with only one universal law in the pocket, and I want to help get there any way I can, because I can smell it--paradigm two is close, and paradigm three will happen at light speed compared with how long it took to get from paradigm one to paradigm two.
Ammy (I call her that because it's short for AMULET, like an ammy of strength, etcetera AND it's an excuse to inject another "m" into the mix just to be silly)...your quest to advance the possibilities you describe are laudable, crucial, and I'm on your side--AT your side literally. I get it because we discuss these things almost constantly (to my delight), which in itself brings into being a space for such things to happen.
Free energy is the first step. Next we topple the government and any other control freak who attempts to grow a brain, then we control our own destiny free of debt or the need for money, then we build robots to replicate themselves, electrogravitic craft, free energy devices, homes and the rest of it, THEN we party like the inventive rock stars we know we are, and travel the universe. All aboard!
We can't fail. We're not here for that!
Peace and Love,
JD
Ah, I suggest that at none of those times was there a paradigm shift - and that the "free energy" was still in control of the few. The whole hierarchical scheme was never broken.
That is My goal. The revolution (I aim for) will be in ideas and not blood.
Again I will say: NO, it will not solve interpersonal relationships. YES, Humans will desire One anOther. There will be conflicts - but the Helen of Troy thing will not be possible for the following reasons:
1. The guys would be no more or less powerful than any other Human around.
2. Helen would have a say.
In scarcity where One can build armies by paying enough to hold Them... Sure. When there is nothing but charisma to hold armies...One had better have a good plan, eh?
If You examine My work... You will find that nowhere do I suggest ways to live One's life. I set up a framework in which each of Us may do exactly as We please - provided it does not involve hurting Others. From living in a cave or on the steppes of Mongolia to having a palace on land or in the air, from living like the Amish to living as a hedonist. From spending time surfing to studying medicine. Whatever You WANT to do.
And I will surely leave You alone as long as You are not deliberately hurting People, killing People, taking or damaging Others' property, or defrauding.
So... Sure, problems will crop up - and leaders with the BEST solutions will emerge - rather than electing leaders to find the cheapest or most profitable (for some) way to solve them.
But I say You are wrong relative to the war - if there is no profit in it...why would We war? Famine is also very solvable when planetary distribution is available (for free), and so too will be pestilence.
Ah, I suggest that at none of those times was there a paradigm shift - and that the "free energy" was still in control of the few. The whole hierarchical scheme was never broken.
That is My goal. The revolution (I aim for) will be in ideas and not blood.
Again I will say: NO, it will not solve interpersonal relationships. YES, Humans will desire One anOther. There will be conflicts - but the Helen of Troy thing will not be possible for the following reasons:
1. The guys would be no more or less powerful than any other Human around.
2. Helen would have a say.
In scarcity where One can build armies by paying enough to hold Them... Sure. When there is nothing but charisma to hold armies...One had better have a good plan, eh?
If You examine My work... You will find that nowhere do I suggest ways to live One's life. I set up a framework in which each of Us may do exactly as We please - provided it does not involve hurting Others. From living in a cave or on the steppes of Mongolia to having a palace on land or in the air, from living like the Amish to living as a hedonist. From spending time surfing to studying medicine. Whatever You WANT to do. And I will surely leave You alone as long as You are not deliberately hurting People, killing People, taking or damaging Others' property, or defrauding.
So... Sure, problems will crop up - and leaders with the BEST solutions will emerge - rather than electing leaders to find the cheapest or most profitable (for some) way to solve them.
But I say You are wrong relative to the war - if there is no profit in it...why would We war? Famine is also very solvable when planetary distribution is available (for free), and so too will be pestilence.
Profit is not the only reason for War, Power is the only thing that drives some people. Human nature is what it is. And I say it will never change.
Have You read the work at the links in the OP?
You 'suggest' based on what evidence?
Noble cause... :D But humans will be humans :P
Well 1) that would require all humans being genetically modified to be the SAME (as Hitler tried to do :P ) because ThIS..
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will never have the same power as THIS
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and 2) Helen did have a say in it... Women playing men against each other is an age old theme... and that will only get worse if they have a lot of free time on their hands to pursue their bliss. We call them Black Widows for a reason :D
Your wrong... I am not a King by blood.. I created my own Kingdom. There are many such Kingdoms around and each King has his own loyal followers. I do not pay my army... they follow me because they like what I offer. They swear allegiance (fealty) to me because they WANT to. When we go to war, sure it is technically a play war... but it is real enough and if the need arose most of these people would take it to the next level. In fact there is a song about that very thing.
These people follow the Laws of Vassalage. The one thing your TAP equation ignores is that humans inherently want a leader. The vast majority of the human race is more comfortable following a good leader than being out on their own
The Anonymous movement and the Occupy movements are PROOF of that... both are merely a new shepherd with a new, latest fad idea to follow. We are already seeing corruption appear in the Anon movement because anyone can don that mask and do evil in the name of the movement. It too shall fall as people get bored.
These are a few of the Eleven Kings present at Court 2002... you have no idea of the power and the sincerity at such events unless you experience it.
Such Kingdoms number membership in the thousands all around the world. Why so many? because people seek the good old days when small leaders took care of their own.
Cults use the same principle. A charismatic person decides on a goal... finds others that like his direction... and soon they will follow him literally to the death.
This has nothing to do with money or scarcity... it is the nature of the beast
Back in the 70's the Hippies preached "Do your own thing" At the time I was 6ft 2in had a brush cut, had a PI license and wore a tan trench coat... Had some friends in that Hippy movement who kept telling me I needed to mellow out and smoke pot and try that LSD and that I needed to stop 'being the man' and do my own thing. Well I WAS doing my own thing... but since it was not there ideal of /my own thing' I was wrong :P
My Chinese friend once took me to the after hours club where the Chinese workers hang out. We walked in and the place went silent... the Ma Jong tables suddenly cleared... until my friend said I was okay LOL After that it was great :D
People that think doing anything you want has to be what they THINK you should want. This has happened over and over. And they get mad when you say "No I don't want to do what you want... thanks anyway" And when they get mad enough that you won't listen to their solution... that leads to war
Aleister Crowley a rogue Rosicrucian used the Law of Thelema "Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"... but that was distorted from the original Wiccan Rede "And it harm none, do as though wilt."
So his bliss was not exactly compatible with the rest of the Occult world. (Oddly enough when people today who are not initiated speak... it is Crowley that is most remembered :Pc )
Good to hear :D But We will defend what is ours... be that family or ferret, home or country... or Empire :D
The leaders with the BEST solutions generally get assasinated like Lincoln who abolished slavery in this country and Kennedy who wanted to take down the banks and give us free access to space. It is always the WORST leaders that seem to mess things up and they are supported by the easily swayed masses. Hitler gave starving Germans a peoples car, a speed limitless hwy and someone to blame their woes on and that was all it took. Alexander the Great was made a HERO... they today we find out that purely out of spite and greed he wiped out a Utopian civilization that had gotten so soft with Abundance that they no longer knew how to fight for their way of life
The Profit in war comes along after the war starts because greedy people take advantage of a situation... and today... sure some powers rattle sabers because they know there is a buck to be made.
I had a friend in Toronto who was Croatian. At the time it was called Yugoslavia. Now he was the nicest guy, calm pleasnat never hurt a fly... taught me the gem business. One day a dealer came into the shop and simply said during conversation "Oh so your from Yugoslavia..." Well my friend exploded ... "I am from Croatia... don't you forget it..." He had turned red... but quickly caught himself and apologized.
Like the Hatfields and McCoys the fight between Bosnia Srbia and Craotia was a long running family blood feud. Word War 1 was started directly over this issue, not money. In fact the money powers had fought hard to prevent the war. "On 28 June 1914, Gavrilo Princip, a Bosnian Serb student and member of Young Bosnia, assassinated the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria in Sarajevo, Bosnia."
Then everyone took sides and it quickly escalated out of control around the world
The Hatfields and McCoys... family hate feud
The Trojan war was not over money it was over a woman...
The Civil War was not about money... it was one side trying to free slaves (and was a success on that score)
I could go on... but most wars are started over petty things... someone feels wronged by another, and everyone else gets sucked into the fray.
Then once it starts your money grubbers see the opportunity to sell arms, plunder riches and then sell rebuilding. Having unlimited cash food etc will be nice, but it won't remove the thing that most drives people to fight... a pure hatred of the other guy
The extremist Muslims HATE our freedom (even such as it is now) and are determined to wipe us out and fall under their way of looking at things
That Korean buffoon has the same goal and whether or not it will come to much, a lot of people (his mostly) are going to suffer
Communism tried to make everyone equal... it failed too because inevitably the wrong people rise to the top.
Your dream is worthy, but humans have a long way to go on the evolutionary scale before we can see such a change that is both global and long lasting....
And that is provide we even survive the next coming ice age :P
Profit is not the only reason for War, Power is the only thing that drives some people. Human nature is what it is. And I say it will never change.
Not sure what You mean by that. Get the ideas to the tipping point, and We WILL create a better system.
Darlin', You're missing the point. The men in the "myth" had ARMIES. Sure two men alone might have One beat the Other - but NOT vast mayhem, death and destruction.
[sigh] There You go trying to pretend fun and games = vast mayhem, death and destruction. How many of those "loyal" to You would actually enter battle wherein They are rather likely to die?
Again, I will go over this with You. It absolutely does NOT ignore that humans inherently want a leader - and in fact, this is NOT an inherent aspect of Humans. SOME want leaders, SOME want autonomy, SOME want to lead. Many don't want leaders except where things are uncertain and Others seem to have a better handle.
Be that all as it may, leaders (and followers) will emerge for each project undertaken. And many will go into fantasy land and pretend some Joe (or Ron) is "king." Or other such playtime fantasy.
Occupy was engineered and BS. Anonymous is infiltrated and amorphous. They prove nothing.
Yeah. So? How many of Their "vassals" are actually killing One anOther? Or... Is this make-believe, too?
And/or just love to escape the real world into fantasy.
Oh, certainly. BUT... If any such cults break the three Laws - the rest of Us will mete justice. Otherwise... Who the funk cares?
I do not aim to end Some following Others - just remove the impetus to follow Others into vast mayhem, death and destruction.
I'm all over that for family, ferret, or home. Your right, indeed. Country in abundance will become mostly meaningless - and Empire? Heh. Maybe a fantasy empire...
You're not seeing things clearly here...
As for fighting... Who would Humanity fight? ET? If so, I don't think it would matter how "soft" We got.
Ah, geez, z. The MOTIVE to profit starts it all. The false flags and propaganda and infiltration then begin, with the aim to incite to war. Then the war starts and the suppliers jump in and feed both sides if They can. Then the "infrastructure rebuilders come through, all profiting from what They started in the first place.
Humans ARE NOT WARLIKE naturally. Naturally, They defend and protect. It takes money/power or a psyop/propaganda to incite to war.
Humans change, humans evolve and so do their patterns of thinking.
If people never change we'd still be owning slave people HERE. Abroad some still own them, and occasionally you might hear about indentured servitude. We have come far since those days, and we're getting further along down the road of decency (governments notwithstanding) than our great grandfathers might have imagined we would.
Control freaks are the trouble with everything. They tend to go around selling the notion that people enjoy being ruled, and by the way--check out this sporty little politician over HERE! We've heard every promise made, and they've ALL been broken to one extent or another. Enough with the control freak paradigm...we'll be evolving now, thanks.
Ammy's onto a great plan and scenario for the future. War is far less likely as a hobby when any one of us can jump into our little BMW space buggy and settle a planet of our own. Under such circumstances I doubt you'll be bribing armies of fatted video game junkies to go marching around with 100 pound packs carrying rifles to go subdue...um...other video addicts, so just cool your jets and take a breath if you think it's all useless, and people just suck.
First of all, as my ubiquitous "Manual For Life" (see above in this thread for the link) states, the REASONS why some people suck will no longer apply.
There will not be a government school trying to teach your child tolerance for animal sex, homosexuality, murder or making terrible pizza! We'll be educating our young at home, as we should have been doing throughout history.
Some love to follow and frankly some always will, but there will be much better people to follow, and those who lead will be interested in benefiting ALL OF MANKIND, not just the elite few who like circus clowns, draw audiences of peanut eaters into their circus. If there is no cost for education and information is freely disseminated then we have no gatekeepers disallowing those they don't like from enjoying the fruit of knowledge, which belongs to all of us equally, like it or not.
You need to understand that in what I refer to as "Paradigm Three," we're not lazy, we're freed up from our slavish conditions to mingle around this and every other planet. Does that sound boring to you?
If so, perhaps I can charge you an exorbitant rate to reconfigure your obviously broken mind.
The strong preying on the weak will be less of an issue as time and societal norms change to reflect the coming renaissance of technology and freedom. If the only law is "DO NO HARM," then I suggest people will NOT find it a difficult principle to grasp...at least for most.
As for "weak" people...I lived in Slab City, CA near Niland for about a half a year. I can tell you that amongst the BROTHERS (all adult males in legion with common sense who deplore violence and harmful stupidity) we looked out for and protected those who couldn't fend for themselves. It will be more this way everywhere as time goes on.
Well perhaps it is this 'tipping point' you speak of. I disagree that a mere 10% no matter what formula you use is enough to materialize this brave new world you envision
More than you might imagine, if they felt my cause was just. What you are missing is the current war gamers are turning vast mayhem, death and destruction into video games, but using live ammo. War will become a game played on video screens with joy sticks with real live drones at the other end... cold, impersonal, robotic
We shall have to agree to disagree on that 8) Cut off food supply and electriciyt for a month in any major city today, then come back and lets talk what happened. ;)
What makes a person a King or a leader? What makes people decide to follow someone? What you call fantasy is far more real than you can imagine. But be that as it may... one thing is certain... those in my 'kingdom' would be well equiped to survive any disaster and they would be the go to people if the SHTF... You know we even have our own loom so while everyone else is running around like headless chickens, we can still make our own Royal Robes :D Sure sounds like fantasy to you, but our people have the skills to survive if and when the infrastructure fails. ;)
I thought you were a big supporter of creating your own reality? Was that merely talk? or do other people's reality not count?
Ah well that 'rest of you meting out Justice'... why does that sound the same as the current PTB? Sounds like a lynch mob justice... on the face of it
Well why can't I have an Empire if you say I can have anything I want :P Gotta be some land somewhere in all that abundance that I can use 8)
The Barbarians from the North, naturally (not sure why they always come from the north, but they do... and eventually they WILL come... they always do and always have. ET? What makes you think they are a problem? The ones I have seen so far are not much of a foe :P The Greys sneak around in the dark with Anal probes; We seem to shoot down their craft easily enough (either that are they are lousy pilots :P) The Reptilians? Not seen them do much... the Pleaidians? Bunch of liars and tricksters from the looks of things...
Nah it will be those Barbarians from the North 8)
So your saying they don't make war just because they LIKE it? Hmmm not what the history books say.
And I doubt those Muslim hoardes that have been at war for 2000 plus years care a lot for money or profit... all they want is those 72 virgins ;)
I disagree... we can choose not to fight today, but it is part of what we are. We have not yet evolved into true beings of Light. Did you know the Apollonauts carried a .45? Did you know that astronauts are licensed, and carry, handguns as well as semiautomatics out into space? ...yeah okay it's for 'protection' :P
Look go ahead and try to reach that tipping point :D More power to you if it happens. I just don't see it happening or even getting close for at least a hundred years... and by that time this meat sack will be back in the ecosystem feeding those GM foods :P
I haven't seen a lot of changes since the Cro Magnan race wiped out the Neanderthals with sticks and stone... Only difference I see is that we are more efficient at it now with high tech
You should check out the sub culture on slavery... might shock ya 8) If your not sqeamish just google that with safe search turned off
Great to hear... evolution does tend to select the fittest... so they say
Well a) I don't need to bribe anyone and b) that comment about "fatted video game junkies" may be your reality but in mine it's more like this. Meet Bjarki the Black... contracted to be my body guard back then. In this picture he is standing beside Gov kenny Guin after we knighted him and the other two are Channel 3 news anchors. I would not call him a "fatted video game junkie" if I were you. :P He is special forces and volunteers on New years to keep the peace between the Bloods and the Crypts in Nort Las Vegas...
A BMW can be an adrenalin rush, especially on a Rally circuit :P but the War games... nothing like it to stir the blood
Here is one of our Swordsmith's testing a blade by cutting cinder blocks :D
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And pity the poor fool that thought it a good idea to hit the Queen so hard he ripped off her helm and split her lip :P But the fiesti lass was right back on the field after the hospital put 7 stiches in her lip
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See while you guys are talking some future utopian robot freeloader society where everything is free and no one needs to work... and calling us "fatted video game junkies"
...WE are living our dream to its fullest today... :D
Saw that I hate that creepy Anon robot voice... makes it hard to get any message
Well here in Las Vegas if there were no laws to keep them in school, most of the kids would rather hang out with the gangs than go to school. Since their parents could care less, who will teach them? For those kids 'home schooling' would be how to shoot a glock 9mm gangland style. I am sure the same is true in most of our inner cities these days
Well the 'proof is in the pudding' as the Brits say... where are the test groups that show that people allowed to run free will not be lazy? So far History has shown us that the more free time people have, the more they turn to lethargy, sloth and decadence in seeking pleasure. They become "fatted video game junkies" :P
As to other planets, so far the ones we have access to are pretty harsh dreary places. I know a few people that have gone and they don't have a nice travel report.
Now see? There you go shooting yourself in the foot. If all your talk of world changes is reduced to you 'needing to reconfigure your obviously broken mind' your whole plan is obviously flawed. You want to convince me? Well show me the tipping point and lets see what happens...
Today the majority of people "DO NO HARM" by choice and old do so when pushed into a corner. It is the handful that DO that have cause all our problems. It only takes ONE man to topple a plan if he is a good talker. (I say man because I don't know of any woman that has become a megalomaniac despot :P )
Evolution does not select the "fittest." Experience does.
I'm 6'4" 235, have been defeated in hand-to-hand combat twice, and never beyond age 19. Fact--I've been in 30 fights in my life, all of which I assumed it was to the death...but alas, I am merciful.
nor am I given to bragging lol.
I don't use a sword to cut cinder blocks...there are more efficient tools for that. I thought you guys are supposed to know this stuff as "survivalists."
I posted a link to the TEXT version, Z...which you obviously have NOT bothered to read due to your "anon" prejudice.
That's another thing...you've alluded to the collective known as "Anonymous," saying they are another example of people following a leader. Really? WRONG! Anons have no leader, don't want a leader and believe in anarchy (which doesn't mean wild nonsensical behavior, rather--it means GOVERNING OF ONE'S SELF).
As things are right now, perhaps...for some who were raised by idiots. Bear in mind that once we hit Paradigm Two, the whole game changes because travel won't cost money, electricity won't cost money, information will be free, the internet will be free...so...bottom line on that is, STOP COMPARING WHAT WILL BE TO WHAT IS because the entire field this game we call life on will be fundamentally different.
In science you might just say the variables and parameters will no longer apply. If you don't account for the change in variables YOUR scenario would prevail, but me thinketh NOT.
Again, Z--you aren't accounting for changing variables. People with free time nowadays are happy to relax; it's the only FREE thing we CAN do.
If you could vacation in the place of your dreams on a whim and do it for free, I doubt that you wouldn't jump all over it, so don't give me that same old same old, because it doesn't work in Paradigm Two or Three.
I've "gone," and found the planet I visited quite refreshing and wonderful. As I said--and especially regarding you, I won't much be going into that. Need to know only...so...
The tipping point for me individually has already happened, so...in a microcosmic way I'm my own little control group. There is no going back to the "what was" mentality; I've tasted the future, and found it inviting.
Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, Janet Napolatano--shall I go on?
Those who see no part for themselves in the future will recycle into the form of another person, hopefully with a capacitor (brain) that is NOT so limited.
Really? Evolution weeds out the weak by natural selection. Experience usually means the tough guys beat up on the weak
Good Grief Charlie Brown... you just don't get it do you?
Well I watched the video.. don't see any real solution in it... but hey that's just me
"collective" is a great description ;D Like a hive mind. You say Anon are anarchists? Well so far most of the actions that we have seen that have been attributed to and claimed by Anon sure look like "wild nonsensical behavior" I could list many example but what would be the point?
So are you saying YOUR solution is anarchy? How does anarchy fit in with TAP?. The problem with Anon is that anyone can (and do) claim to be anon All they need to do is don a mask and do any silly thing they want and who is to say which action was done by a 'real' member of the movement? By your description there is no movement just a bunch of anarchists doing whatever they want... and most of them are script kiddies living in Mom's basement being useless eaters.
Since there is no leader, and no group... seems to me Anon is just the latest fad for any punk kid with a beef against the worldan·ar·chyan·ar·chy
Okay so what is your timeline for getting from where we are now to Paradigm Two? You cannot change this overnight over the entire globe. So far I have heard what it would be like once we get there (though I am not down with robots doing everything) but even Amy said she had no INTERIM solutions.
So fine, the anarchist will want to topple the system... then what? Who will step up and produce the equipment needed to utilize this free energy and do it for free either now or after the collapse? Or do you thing the new technology will miraculously appear? Free energy is everywhere in the universe but SOMEONE has to build the collectors and device that can harness and use it.
So before we can change to everything free, there has to be a LOT of people NOW willing to do the work for free. Where are they?
Well at the moment my scenario IS prevailing. Sure would love to have a car that runs on free energy... then I could go to more wars :P... but no one yet has come up with a working model that can be mass produced for free... and no philanthropist has stepped up to the plate to offer the means to make the start. Its all well and good to toss around the term 'free energy will solve all our problems' but then not have any plan on how to implement that. I don't even have a working car right now... so when can I expect one of these free energy vehicle to appear in my driveway?
You want real people to support a plan, you have to have interim solutions on how they will survive to get there... Anarchy won't do it.
uh huh...
Sure I would... and I can do quite well without a lot of cash because in my world others chip in to make it work for all...
...but I know many that have the means and the money now to do that but spend it on video games and fit your profile of "fatted video junkies"
Yeah we know.. you have been off world and met scads of alien races... but if you told us you would have to kill us :P So you say your against secrecy but then tell us "Need to know only.. Makes you about the same as the PTB doesn't it? Can you at least name the star system this planet you visited is or is that [classified] too?
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Irrelevant to the grand scheme of things but enjoy your control group ;)
Black Widow class to be sure, but they haven't overthrown any countries yet 8)
Well I will be worm food long before this plan shows any hope (at least from this incarnation) but isn't that the age old cry that leads to fights and wars when you start tossing veiled insults at those who disagree with your world views?
So are you saying YOUR solution is anarchy? How does anarchy fit in with TAP?