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Title: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: rdunk on September 09, 2015, 03:55:37 pm
Russian military build-up in Syria ‘unprecedented,’ officials say

Doesn't it seem that about every time we "turn around", there is a new News report about anther "strong-arming" move be Russia. Does anyone here think that Russia's such moves are a direct result of the U. S. President and his administration being so lackadaisical with our military, and so much so, that they have depleted much of the high ranking personnel who had any real military leadership experience?

So, now Russia is going to be supporting in Syria/Assad, while Obama and his minions are supporting the fighters fighting to overthrow Assad?? ?? Now isn't that just a brilliant situation
we find ourselves in, under this President...........again!!

Published September 09, 2015FoxNews.com

U.S. officials are expressing growing concern about Russia's military build-up in Assad-controlled Syria, calling it "unprecedented" -- with one telling Fox News it compares in scope to Vladimir Putin's incursion into Crimea.

"It's beginning to look like Crimyria," the official told Fox News.

Two U.S. officials who have reviewed the latest intelligence told Fox News that satellite imagery reveals more flights of massive Russian An-124 "condor" military cargo planes landing in Syria. They are offloading troops, including just under 50 Russian marines, and armored vehicles.

U.S. officials said the Russian activity in Syria is unlike any they've seen since the start of the Syrian civil war four years ago.

"This is definitely a build-up straight out of Russia's military doctrine," said one official.

The Russian government is not denying the build-up.

Russia's Foreign Ministry disclosed early Wednesday that Russian military experts indeed are assisting forces loyal to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in that country's long-running civil war.



More: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/09/russian-military-build-up-in-syria-unprecedented-officials-say/?intcmp=hplnws
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Post by: ArMaP on September 09, 2015, 04:23:31 pm
Doesn't it seem that about every time we "turn around", there is a new News report about anther "strong-arming" move be Russia.
Not really. :)

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So, now Russia is going to be supporting in Syria/Assad, while Obama and his minions are supporting the fighters fighting to overthrow Assad?? ?? Now isn't that just a brilliant situation
we find ourselves in, under this President...........again!!
Well, at least Russia supports their allies, while with the US we never know if they are supporting their allies or their enemies.  :P

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"It's beginning to look like Crimyria," the official told Fox News.
"Crimyria"? ???
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: zorgon on September 09, 2015, 05:31:06 pm
Good!  Maybe Russia can clean up Syria so all those Refuges flooding into Europe can go back home :P
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Post by: Eighthman on September 09, 2015, 06:18:21 pm
Will this arrogance of US foreign policy ever stop?  They wasted billions and countless lives in Vietnam for nothing and lost. Same with Iraq. Same (soon) with Afghanistan.   They ruined Libya for no good reason - and now Europe is getting stuck with the refugees.  If ever there was a world power that Should Not Be Allowed to intervene in anything, it's the US.  They f**k up everything they get entangled with - and thank heavens many Americans are waking up to this mess. The British (see J. Corbyn) seem to be waking up too.
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: Ellirium113 on September 09, 2015, 07:17:12 pm
Sounds like a win situation for the U.S.

Pay AlqISIS to overthrow Assad AND start working away at Russian forces without having to get dirt on their hands.  :P
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Post by: astr0144 on September 09, 2015, 09:42:01 pm
Would initially Russia be their to try to protect Assad from being over thrown by Alq/Isis..

Not sure how big Alq/ Issis are in Syria... or how big the two combined Forces of Syria and Russia would be to oppose them.

But yes, it may well be that it ties Russia up in a conflict...to benefit the USA  if that is something that they planned or may have some benefits from other than just their past despise for each other.

or were the USA initially planning sending their forces over there and if so who in favor off if they did ?

was it to support the opposing side of Assad ???
and are were have they sent or prepared any forces
to go over..

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while Obama and his minions are supporting the fighters fighting to overthrow Assad



I am not really sure about the full details of what its all about in regards to Syria if the situation is classed as a Civil war . or who sides who for sure or if there is some deceipt going on by who ever or maybe all  in some way !...

 I assume its a religious thing with Muslems and other religions within Syria along with the Islamic state?  Russia will side on...What ever side Assad is on I suspect.




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Russia says the Syrian government must be incorporated into a shared global fight against Islamic State, the Islamist group that has taken over large parts of Syria and Iraq. The United States and Assad's regional foes see him as part of the problem.

"We would welcome constructive Russian contributions to the counter-ISIL effort, but we've been clear that it would be unconscionable for any party, including the Russians, to provide any support to the Assad regime," White House spokesman Eric Schultz said, using an acronym for Islamic State.


Assad's forces have faced big setbacks on the battlefield in a four-year-old multi-sided civil war that has killed 250,000 people and driven half of Syria's 23 million people from their homes.

http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-official-says-russian-experts-expand-presence-124536285.html

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Sounds like a win situation for the U.S.

Pay AlqISIS to overthrow Assad AND start working away at Russian forces without having to get dirt on their hands.
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: Eighthman on September 10, 2015, 05:17:29 am
Observe the insanity.  Remember the Al-Queda guys who hate and threaten the US? And supposedly did 9/11?  Well, the US Elite want to support them against Assad - whose nation has never attacked or threatened us (or even could).

We observe Iran fighting ISIS but, no, somehow that's wrong (????!!!)  The Elite have a bizarre obsession with attacking Syria - a mostly useless patch of desert.  Where is the obsession with the emerging fact that, for the first time in my life, the US is failing to 'hand over' the economy to the next generation?  Debt-laden college kids living in mom's basement with crappy jobs amidst fading infrastructure. 

Come back in a decade or so and note the careers that never were, the families never started, the marriages avoided and debts piled up.  But we sure policed the world, didn't we?
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: space otter on October 15, 2015, 04:49:39 am


alarmed ?  ?   hell yes





Russian Military Uses Syria as Proving Ground, and West Takes Notice



The New York Times
By STEVEN LEE MYERS and ERIC SCHMITT
10 hrs ago

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-military-uses-syria-as-proving-ground-and-west-takes-notice/ar-AAfsDjh?li=AAa0dzB&OCID=msnHomepage#image=1
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: ArMaP on October 15, 2015, 06:06:10 am

alarmed ?  ?   hell yes
Not me. :)
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: Ellirium113 on October 15, 2015, 02:51:23 pm
Another funny thing about this...if the masses were paying attention they would realize that Al Qaeda with the help of the US was originally against the Assad regime. THEN the "Moderate Rebels" tried to fight Al Qaeda and take back their way of life which didn't work out so well. Now they claim they are arming the "Moderate Rebels" to help overthrow Assad. So I guess the term "Moderate Rebels" can mean what ever they want. ISIS, Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, Kurdish Rebels, or other un affiliated mercenaries. Would the REAL moderate rebels please raise your hand? (I suspect they ALL just raised their hand.)

Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: Ellirium113 on October 15, 2015, 02:56:31 pm
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The Russian Foreign Ministry has questioned the effectiveness of the US-led year-long air campaign in Syria, saying it’s unclear “why the results of so many combat sorties are so insignificant.” Failing to curb ISIS, the US has now “adjusted” its program.


“We have very few specifics which could explain what the US is exactly doing in Syria and why the results of so many combat sorties are so insignificant,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told Russian channel NTV. “With, as far as I know, 25,000 sorties they [US-led air campaign] could have smashed the entire [country of] Syria into smithereens,” the minister noted.

Lavrov questioned the Western coalition’s objectives in their air campaign, stressing that Washington must decide whether its aim is to eliminate the jihadists or to use extremist forces to pursue its own political agenda.

“Maybe their stated goal is not entirely sincere? Maybe it is regime change?” Lavrov said, as he expressed doubts that weapons and munitions supplied by the US to the so-called “moderate Syrian opposition” will end up in terrorists’ hands.

“I want to be honest, we barely have any doubt that at least a considerable part of these weapons will fall into the terrorists’ hands,” Lavrov said.

http://www.walzar.com/lavrov-unclear-what-exactly-us-is-doing-in-syria-why-results-so-insignificant/ (http://www.walzar.com/lavrov-unclear-what-exactly-us-is-doing-in-syria-why-results-so-insignificant/)
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: Ellirium113 on October 15, 2015, 03:01:34 pm
Hmmm...considerable amount like this?

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The U.S. Government Supplied ISIS’ Iconic Pickup Trucks

Posted on October 12, 2015 by WashingtonsBlog   
 

U.S. counter-terror officials have launched an investigation into how ISIS got so many of those identical Toyota pickup trucks which they use in their convoys.

They don’t have to look very far …

The Spectator reported last year:


The [Toyota] Hilux [pics] is light, fast, manoeuvrable and all but indestructible (‘bomb-proof’ might not, in this instance, be a happy usage).  The weapons experts Jane’s claimed for the Hilux a similar significance to the longbows of Agincourt or the Huey choppers of Nam. A US Army Ranger said the Toyota sure ‘kicks the hell out of a Humvee’ (referring to the clumsy and over-sized High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle made by AM General).

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The fact is the Toyotas were supplied by the US government to the Al Nusra Front as ‘non-lethal aid’ then ‘acquired’ by ISIS.

Al Nusra Front is literally Al Qaeda.

Public Radio International – an American public radio outlet – also documented a specific shipment of Toyotas by the U.S. State Department in 2014:


Recently, when the US State Department resumed sending non-lethal aid to Syrian rebels, the delivery list included 43 Toyota trucks.

Hiluxes were on the Free Syrian Army’s wish list. Oubai Shahbander, a Washington-based advisor to the Syrian National Coalition, is a fan of the truck.

“Specific equipment like the Toyota Hiluxes are what we refer to as force enablers for the moderate opposition forces on the ground,” he adds. Shahbander says the US-supplied pickups will be delivering troops and supplies into battle. Some of the fleet will even become battlefield weapons.

That’s exactly what happened …

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/10/the-u-s-government-supplied-isis-iconic-pickup-trucks.html (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/10/the-u-s-government-supplied-isis-iconic-pickup-trucks.html)
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: Ellirium113 on October 22, 2015, 07:35:23 pm
Uh oh :o

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Putin to Muslim Turkish Ambassador: “Tell your dictator President he can go to hell along with…”

Putin has personally sent a message to the Turkish ambassador to Moscow, Mr Ümit Yardim, and warned him that Russia will stop any relationships unless the Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdo?an stops supporting ISIS terrorists in Syria.
   
According to The leaked information obtained by The Moscow Times, the meeting between the Mr.Purin and Turkish ambassador was imbued with intense mutual resentment where Mr. Yardim has repudiated all Russian accusations, laying blame on Russia for Syria’s bitter and protracted civil war.

“..then tell your dictator president he can go to hell along with his ISIS terrorist and I shall make Syria to nothing but a ‘Big Stalingrad’ , for Erdo?an and his Saudi allies are no vicious than Adolf Hitler,”

replied Vladimir Putin in the 2-hour closed door meeting with Turkish emissary.

http://conservativepost.com/putin-to-muslim-turkish-ambassador-tell-your-dictator-president-he-can-go-to-hell-along-with/ (http://conservativepost.com/putin-to-muslim-turkish-ambassador-tell-your-dictator-president-he-can-go-to-hell-along-with/)


Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: spacemaverick on October 23, 2015, 08:32:55 am
Well, I would say that was a very clear message....no double speak there!
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: zorgon on October 23, 2015, 12:26:12 pm
Can we get Putin for President in 2016? :P

Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: space otter on October 24, 2015, 09:43:57 am


zorgon.. really ! .... putin answers the question..what could be worse than what we have now..geeeeezeeeeee


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/vladimir-putin-russia-news-media_56215944e4b0bce34700b1df


Eline Gordts
Senior World Editor, The Huffington Post
Posted: 10/24/2015 07:02 AM EDT

Putin's Press: How Russia's President Controls The News

Russia may soon lose some of its last free media.

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Rossiya 24 via YouTube

A Russian TV reporter on state-owned station Rossiya24 outlines the weather conditions in Syria days after Russia announces bombing campaign.


Every week, The WorldPost asks an expert to shed light on a topic driving headlines around the world. Today, we speak with Nataliya Rostova, a chronicler and critic of the Russian media.

Days after Russian President Vladimir Putin committed his air force to a bombing campaign in Syria in support of President Bashar Assad, a weather forecaster on Russia's state-owned Rossiya24 TV channel positioned herself in front of a massive screen showing Russian fighter planes.

Analyzing wind speeds and cloud formations, the woman reassured viewers that Syria's weather in October was perfect for Russia's aerial assault. "Experts note the time for the start of the air operation [in Syria] is chosen very well," she said, reported Agence France Presse.

The Oct. 5 broadcast was just the latest example of the way the Russian government uses the mass media to sell domestic and international political decisions to the public, a trend exacerbated since the start of the conflict in Crimea last year.

Freedom House, which publishes the annual Freedom of The Press report, noted of the press in the country that:

Russia’s occupation of the Crimean Peninsula and involvement in the conflict in eastern Ukraine helped to drive an increase in propagandistic content in the Russian news media and tighter restrictions on dissenting views in 2014. Media outlets became more firmly incorporated into the Kremlin’s policy efforts, moving from supporting the government with biased news to actively participating in an “information war” with its perceived adversaries. Ongoing insurgencies, corrupt officials, and crime within Russia continued to pose a danger to journalists who reported on them, and the remaining independent media outlets in the country came under growing pressure from the authorities.


The WorldPost spoke with Nataliya Rostova, a visiting scholar at the University of Berkeley's Graduate School of Journalism and a senior correspondent at Moscow-based online magazine Slon.ru, about Putin's control of the press. Rostova is also the author of Gorbymedia.com, a research project about the birth of the Russian media in the era of former President Mikhail Gorbachev. 

How has the Russian media portrayed the Russian intervention in Syria?

In general, the Russian media portrays anything going on from the point of view of Vladimir Putin. He has unlimited access to the media and they explain everything that's going on according to his official statement. It doesn't really matter if it's a war in Syria or any other topic.

How does the Russian president manage to control the media with such great success?

After Putin came into power in 2000, he established control over the three main TV stations. In 2001 and 2002, he took control of the two biggest TV channels, ORT (now First Channel) and NTV. The state broadcaster, RTR (now Rossiya 1), was already under his control.

“The Russian media portrays anything going on from the point of view of Vladimir Putin.

During his subsequent year in power, Putin moved more and more outlets under his influence until he controlled most of the major mainstream media. He appoints editors and general directors, either officially or unofficially. The director of VGTRK, the biggest [state] media  holding, which owns Rossiya 1, Rossiya 2 etc., is appointed by presidential decree, for example. When it comes to so-called independent media, which are smaller and not owned by the state, there's often an agreement between the Kremlin, the owner and the editor-in-chief. Even Aleksey Venediktov, the editor-in-chief of Echo Moskvy, which is sometimes called the last remaining independent radio station in Russia but in reality isn't independent, says publicly that Putin is the only person who can fire him.

The editors and directors have so-called weekly meetings with the presidential administration to talk about the upcoming events, what will be significant in the next week, what the administration wants to cover.

Additionally, media outlets are dependent on state funding and the TV advertising market is almost monopolized as well. 

Do Russian citizens in any way ask for more objective coverage?

We all - journalists, the state, and society - failed in terms of media freedom, because when you ask an average Russian if freedom of the press is important to him, he'll say no. In general, they're ok with the idea of censorship. They're ok with the idea of state-owned media.

Until Mikhail Gorbachev opened up the Soviet Union at the end of the 1980s and started to allow TV and newspapers to report critically, Russian media was completely state-controlled. Does that history of censorship help explain the situation today?

In my opinion, it's related to the fact that we got this freedom from above. Because it was given from above, people don't value it. We didn’t really fight for it. We didn’t demand it. It was just given to us and "so what" if it's taken.

Journalists also really failed the people’s trust. It is a complex story, but to keep it simple: In the beginning of the 1990s journalists were considered messiahs, praised for telling the truth. Many of them even became deputies in parliament. But they turned out to be either biased or corrupt. During the oligarchs' information wars under the Yeltsin presidency, entire editorial staffs were taken and bought. Journalists were taking sides in a number of political events. A lot of people just saw that it was easy to buy them.

“We all - journalists, the state and society - failed in terms of media freedom.

Can social media play a role in critiquing the state version of events? 

On a personal level, sometimes, but in general, it’s not a trend. It doesn’t influence anything. The number of readers that receive information from media outlets that are critical to the state is no more than five percent and only a minority receives critical news through social media.

You don't seem very optimistic about the future.

I think that I’m realistic. I've been covering media since 2002 and I saw the landscape change step by step. I didn't want to believe it every time they'd take one more channel, every time another outlet lost its integrity. But I witnessed it anyway.

Now, the last option for editorial integrity has been taken as well. A new law which takes effect next year will restrict foreign ownership of media outlets to no more than 20 percent. It was the last resort for independent journalism in Russia, being owned by foreigners.

For example: Forbes Magazine, which is distributed in Russia by the German company Axel Springer, is a very good source for independent journalism. The magazine was founded in 2004 by Paul Khlebnikov, an American with a Russian background, and he was its first editor-in-chief. He was shot and killed a few months after the launch of the magazine, and the case still hasn't been fully investigated. Forbes remained an excellent media outlet, even after Khlebnikov's death. However, now it has been bought by a Russian owner. A few days ago he admitted publicly in an interview that Forbes readers are not interested in the information of officials running state-owned companies. Where will this situation lead? Most likely, honest journalists will have to quit their positions. I'm sending my deepest condolences to colleagues. They are not the first ones though, they are one of the last ones.

The same fate awaits the best quality newspaper Vedomosti, which comes together with the Wall Street Journal and the Financial Times. Russia is the only place where two competing companies issue one product together. But they won't be able to do that anymore. It means we may lose some of the last free media.




More from The WorldPost's weekly interview series:

- Russia Says Its Airstrikes In Syria Are Perfectly Legal. Are They?
- Was The Libyan Intervention A Mistake?
- What's Behind The Islamic State's Propaganda War
- Inside The Islamic State's Apocalyptic Beliefs



 
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: Eighthman on October 24, 2015, 11:06:41 am
Take your quoted sentences and apply them to the USA, please:

"How has the US media portrayed the US intervention in Iraq?" (and it's horrific results) Do they ever widely admit that they lost in Vietnam and Iraq - and are losing in Afghanistan, against poorly armed jihadists?

How do the political elite control the US media so well that they keep ignoring evidence that the US, Saudis and Israel are actively supporting terrorists? Or that this constitutes treason?

How can the US media be so solidly controlled that they would allow a man with a wildly sketchy, indefinite, vague past such as Obama to become President? Or that they anoint a successor who lacks truthfulness, is bought by rich contributors,  is a warmonger,  and may have severe health concerns consistent with being elderly?

Who has a greater % of its citizens in prison, Russia or the US?  Who has surrounded the other with countless military bases?  Who seems to have steady, competent leadership?

Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: space otter on October 25, 2015, 05:07:20 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/26/world/europe/russian-presence-near-undersea-cables-concerns-us.html?_r=1

By DAVID E. SANGER and ERIC SCHMITTOCT. 25, 2015

Russian Presence Near Undersea Cables Concerns U.S.

WASHINGTON — Russian submarines and spy ships are aggressively operating near the vital undersea cables that carry almost all global Internet communications, raising concerns among some American military and intelligence officials that the Russians might be planning to attack those lines in times of tension or conflict.

The issue goes beyond old Cold War worries that the Russians would tap into the cables — a task American intelligence agencies also mastered decades ago. The alarm today is deeper: The ultimate Russian hack on the United States could involve severing the fiber-optic cables at some of their hardest-to-access locations to halt the instant communications on which the West’s governments, economies and citizens have grown dependent.

While there is no evidence yet of any cable cutting, the concern is part of a growing wariness among senior American and allied military and intelligence officials over the accelerated activity by Russian armed forces around the globe. At the same time, the internal debate in Washington illustrates how the United States is increasingly viewing every Russian move through a lens of deep distrust, reminiscent of the Cold War.

Inside the Pentagon and the nation’s spy agencies, the assessments of Russia’s growing naval activities are highly classified and not publicly discussed in detail. American officials are secretive about what they are doing both to monitor the activity and to find ways to recover quickly if cables are cut. But more than a dozen officials confirmed in broad terms that it had become the source of significant attention in the Pentagon.

“I’m worried every day about what the Russians may be doing,” said Rear Adm. Frederick J. Roegge, commander of the Navy’s submarine fleet in the Pacific, who would not answer questions about possible Russian plans for cutting the undersea cables.

Cmdr. William Marks, a Navy spokesman in Washington, said: “It would be a concern to hear any country was tampering with communication cables; however, due to the classified nature of submarine operations, we do not discuss specifics.”

In private, however, commanders and intelligence officials are far more direct. They report that from the North Sea to Northeast Asia and even in waters closer to American shores, they are monitoring significantly increased Russian activity along the known routes of the cables, which carry the lifeblood of global electronic communications and commerce.

Just last month, the Russian spy ship Yantar, equipped with two self-propelled deep-sea submersible craft, cruised slowly off the East Coast of the United States on its way to Cuba — where one major cable lands near the American naval station at Guantánamo Bay. It was monitored constantly by American spy satellites, ships and planes. Navy officials said the Yantar and the submersible vehicles it can drop off its decks have the capability to cut cables miles down in the sea.

“The level of activity,” a senior European diplomat said, “is comparable to what we saw in the Cold War.”

One NATO ally, Norway, is so concerned that it has asked its neighbors for aid in tracking Russian submarines.

Adm. James Stavridis, formerly NATO’s top military commander and now dean of the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, said in an email last week that “this is yet another example of a highly assertive and aggressive regime seemingly reaching backwards for the tools of the Cold War, albeit with a high degree of technical improvement.”

The operations are consistent with Russia’s expanding military operations into places like Crimea, eastern Ukraine and Syria, where President Vladimir V. Putin has sought to demonstrate a much longer reach for Russian ground, air and naval forces.

“The risk here is that any country could cause damage to the system and do it in a way that is completely covert, without having a warship with a cable-cutting equipment right in the area,” said Michael Sechrist, a former project manager for a Harvard-M.I.T. research project funded in part by the Defense Department.

“Cables get cut all the time — by anchors that are dragged, by natural disasters,” said Mr. Sechrist, who published a 2012 study of the vulnerabilities of the undersea cable network. But most of those cuts take place within a few miles from shore, and can be repaired in a matter of days.

What worries Pentagon planners most is that the Russians appear to be looking for vulnerabilities at much greater depths, where the cables are hard to monitor and breaks are hard to find and repair.

Mr. Sechrist noted that the locations of the cables are hardly secret. “Undersea cables tend to follow the similar path since they were laid in the 1860s,” he said, because the operators of the cables want to put them in familiar environments under longstanding agreements.

The exception are special cables, with secret locations, that have been commissioned by the United States for military operations; they do not show up on widely available maps, and it is possible the Russians are hunting for those, officials said.

The role of the cables is more important than ever before. They carry more than $10 trillion a day in global business, including from financial institutions that settle their transactions on them every second. Any significant disruption would cut the flow of capital. The cables also carry more than 95 percent of daily communications.

So important are undersea cables that the Department of Homeland Security lists their landing areas — mostly around New York, Miami and Los Angeles — at the top of its list of “critical infrastructure.”

Attention to underwater cables is not new. In October 1971, the American submarine Halibut entered the Sea of Okhotsk north of Japan, found a telecommunications cable used by Soviet nuclear forces, and succeeded in tapping its secrets. The mission, code-named Ivy Bells, was so secret that a vast majority of the submarine’s sailors had no idea what they had accomplished. The success led to a concealed world of cable tapping.

And a decade ago, the United States Navy launched the submarine Jimmy Carter, which intelligence analysts say is able to tap undersea cables and eavesdrop on communications flowing through them.

Submarines are not the only vessels that are snooping on the undersea cables. American officials closely monitor the Yantar, which Russian officials insist is an oceanographic ship with no ties to espionage.

“The Yantar is equipped with a unique onboard scientific research complex which enables it to collect data on the ocean environment, both in motion and on hold. There are no similar complexes anywhere,” said Alexei Burilichev, the head of the deepwater research department at the Russian Defense Ministry, according to sputniknews.com in May 2015.

American concern over cable cutting is just one aspect of Russia’s modernizing Navy that has drawn new scrutiny.

Adm. Mark Ferguson, commander of American naval forces in Europe, speaking in Washington this month said that the proficiency and operational tempo of the Russian submarine force was increasing.

Citing public remarks by the Russian Navy chief, Adm. Viktor Chirkov, Admiral Ferguson said the intensity of Russian submarine patrols had risen by almost 50 percent over the last year. Russia has increased its operating tempo to levels not seen in over a decade. Russian Arctic bases and their $2.4 billion investment in the Black Sea Fleet expansion by 2020 demonstrate their commitment to develop their military infrastructure on the flanks, he said.

Admiral Ferguson said that as part of Russia’s emerging doctrine of so-called hybrid warfare, it is increasingly using a mix of conventional force, Special Operations mission and new weapons in the 21st-century battlefield.

“This involves the use of space, cyber, information warfare and hybrid warfare designed to cripple the decision-making cycle of the alliance,” Admiral Ferguson said, referring to NATO. “At sea, their focus is disrupting decision cycles.”

Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: zorgon on October 25, 2015, 09:11:56 pm
Psychic Edgar Cayce Predicted Putin Would Save World From WW3

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One of the world’s most famous psychics, Edgar Cayce, apparently predicted that Russian President Vladimir Putin would be a “force of light” in preventing World War Three from occurring amid the global turmoil we see today.

His predictions were made over 80 years ago in a series of “World Affairs Readings” about the future of world finance, world leadership, collective spirituality, and the important role Russia would play on the world’s stage.

Wakingtimes.com reports:

Cayce foresaw that future world crises would hinge on finance, and he pointed to Russia as being the thorn in the side of the financial powers that were organizing themselves against the good of humanity in a post WWII world.

When asked in 1932 about political and economic trends in Europe Cayce zeroed in on Russia:

http://yournewswire.com/psychic-edgar-cayce-predicted-putin-would-save-world-from-ww3/
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: spacemaverick on October 25, 2015, 10:55:22 pm
Psychic Edgar Cayce Predicted Putin Would Save World From WW3

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http://yournewswire.com/psychic-edgar-cayce-predicted-putin-would-save-world-from-ww3/

Very interesting indeed Zorgon, very interesting......
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: space otter on October 26, 2015, 02:34:15 pm

always dig deeper


http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=8780.msg119371;topicseen#new
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: space otter on October 29, 2015, 10:51:16 am


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-jets-buzz-uss-ronald-reagan/ar-BBmzwIi?li=AAa0dzB

International Business Times
Christopher Harress
1 hr ago




Russian Jets Buzz USS Ronald Reagan

Russian bomber warplanes came within one nautical mile of the U.S. Navy aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan earlier this week, prompting the nuclear-powered vessel to scramble fighter jets, according to spokesperson from the U.S. Navy’s 7th Fleet, who spoke with Stars and Stripes Thursday. The giant Tupolev bomber aircraft, also known as the Bear, flew as low as 500 feet as it approached the Reagan, which had been conducting scheduled maneuvers with the South Korean Navy in the Korean Peninsula.

As the two Tupolevs approached, the Reagan launched four F/A-18 Super Hornet fighter jets to intercept and identify, a standard procedure when encountering unidentifiable aircraft, according to 7th Fleet spokeswoman Lt. Lauren Cole.

While the USS Ronald Reagan sent up four combat aircraft to deal with the two bombers, the entire incident took place in international waters, making the approach completely legal if not somewhat provocative and potentially dangerous.
We are advocates of any country being able to operate within international norms,” Cole said. “We do caveat that with the fact that all of these operations need to be conducted in accordance with the rights and regulations of other countries, and within a safe manner.”

Russian aircraft have made a habit over the last year of using its aircraft to test international boundaries by violating the airspace of other countries and approaching U.S. and NATO ships in what the U.S. have previously described as “provocative” action.

During a similar incident in April last year, the USS Donald Cook witnessed a Russian SU-24 fighter jet make 12 “close-range, low-altitude” flybys while the ship was conducting exercises in the Black Sea near Romania, according to the Pentagon. Last month, Turkey accused Russian jets of infiltrating its airspace while it conducted bombing missions inside Syria.

The U.S. has been exercising freedom of international waters this week after its ship the USS Lassen sailed through U.N.-mandated international waters that China had claimed as its sovereign territory.



 
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: zorgon on October 29, 2015, 11:10:53 am

zorgon.. really ! .... putin answers the question..what could be worse than what we have now..geeeeezeeeeee

Well if Russia ran the US at least we would have a SPACE PROGRAM :P

And all this 'freedom" of speech and the press has gotten to far out of hand...  Sure we are 'free' to say what we want, but look at FB and Twitter... MOST people use that freedom to spread lies, hatred and false news as fact

Sooner or later we need to reach a middle point... or it will all fall apart

So in China and Russia  the State controls the media

In the USA the Rothschilds control the Media (and the Money) :P
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: space otter on October 29, 2015, 03:25:27 pm




Sooner or later we need to reach a middle point... or it will all fall apart

it will all fall apart


isn't that what IS  already happening?
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: zorgon on October 30, 2015, 02:02:42 pm
isn't that what IS  already happening?

Not sure...

According to the internet... YES

According to people I have talked to in other countries?... NO  Just some issolated incidents that are blown up in the media

According to what I see outside here in Vegas?... NO

I see clear blue skies, weather has been awesome accept a bit warmer for longer than normal but its cooled off now. No tanks driving up the street, no cop shootings, no Black or Muslim riots. 

So perhaps its all a hologram and I am in a different one :P
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Post by: space otter on November 06, 2016, 09:34:47 am
this kinda fits here doesn't deserve a thread of it's own imo


Putin grants action star Steven Seagal Russian citizenship
 AFP AFP
3 days ago

(http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAjQdA9.img?h=591&w=874&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=220&y=338)
© Provided by AFP Hollywood star Seagal and judo-loving Kremlin tough guy Putin have struck up a bromance in recent years
President Vladimir Putin signed off Thursday on a decree granting Russian citizenship to US action hero actor Steven Seagal, the latest high-profile passport handout to a Western celebrity.

Hollywood star Seagal and judo-loving Kremlin tough guy Putin have struck up a bromance in recent years, with Seagal visiting Russia repeatedly and defending Moscow's 2014 annexation of Crimea from Ukraine.

"He was asking quite insistently and over a lengthy period to be granted citizenship," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists.

"He is well known for his warm feelings towards our country and has never hidden them."

Seagal is the latest in a string of high-profile Westerners to be granted Russian citizenship after buddying up with Putin.

Veteran French actor Gerard Depardieu was given a Russian passport in 2013 after the star became a tax exile in ire over rate hikes in his native country.

Putin has also handed out citizenship to US boxer Roy Jones Jr after sipping tea with him in Crimea and to American mixed martial artist Jeff Monson.

(http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAjQg6X.img?h=788&w=874&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f)
© Provided by AFP French actor Gerard Depardieu was given a Russian passport in 2013 after he became a tax exile in ire over rate hikes in France
Seagal's fame peaked in the late 1980s and early 1990s with films such as "Under Siege" and "Above the Law", but he remains hugely popular in eastern Europe and was granted Serbian citizenship in January.

Like Depardieu, he has previously hung out with Putin, a fellow martial arts fan, and other strongmen leaders from the former Soviet Union.

After Russia's annexation of Crimea, Seagal called Putin "one of the great living world leaders" and even performed with his blues band in the annexed Black Sea peninsula.

In August, veteran Belarussian leader Alexander Lukashenko made Seagal eat one of his homegrown carrots in an awkward encounter that drew mockery online.
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Post by: spacemaverick on November 06, 2016, 12:57:27 pm
It does fit Space Otter.  People are getting fed up with our supposed leaders are looking for strong leader types.  Putin does fit in.  Here is another American, Charlie Armstrong, (grandson of Louis Armstrong the jazz great)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pcf3o5cM4I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pcf3o5cM4I)

The Voice Russia and you will find him around Moscow.
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Post by: robomont on November 06, 2016, 01:24:26 pm
big fan of louis armstrong.
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: Irene on November 06, 2016, 01:41:22 pm
Putin sees our pathetic "leader" for what he is, an idiot who hates the country he runs. All he's doing is poking Obama with a stick for his own amusement because he knows Obama is nothing more than a meatbag full of hot air.

I, too, would find it amusing except that I hate the fact the rest of the planet is laughing at us.
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Post by: Eighthman on November 06, 2016, 02:49:37 pm
I predict there will be noticeable emigration to Russia from the US and EU.  The fading western culture seems to be led by nihilists. 



Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: Irene on November 06, 2016, 02:54:31 pm
I predict there will be noticeable emigration to Russia from the US and EU.  The fading western culture seems to be led by nihilists.

I doubt this very much. While our leadership is composed of horse's a**es, America is still one of the greatest countries on the planet in many other ways.
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: spacemaverick on November 06, 2016, 08:43:12 pm
I predict there will be noticeable emigration to Russia from the US and EU.  The fading western culture seems to be led by nihilists.

You could be on to something.
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: space otter on April 18, 2017, 05:22:35 pm


could these two things be related?



http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-intercepts-2-russian-bombers-off-alaskas-coast/ar-BBA0zcG?li=BBnb4R7

vid at link
US intercepts 2 Russian bombers off Alaska's coast

Associated Press Associated Press5 hrs ago

WASHINGTON — The U.S. military says it intercepted two Russian bombers in international airspace off Alaska's coast.

Navy Commander Gary Ross, a Pentagon spokesman, says a pair of F-22 Raptor aircraft intercepted the Russian TU-95 Bear bombers on Monday.

Ross says the intercept was "safe and professional."

North American Aerospace Defense Command monitors air approaches to North America and defends the airspace.

Fox News said Tuesday the Russian planes flew within 100 miles (160 kilometers) of Alaska's Kodiak Island.

It said the American jets escorted the Russian bombers for 12 minutes. The bombers then flew back to eastern Russia.


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http://www.newsweek.com/tour-russias-giant-new-arctic-military-base-585759


TAKE A TOUR OF RUSSIA'S GIANT NEW ARCTIC MILITARY BASE
BY DAMIEN SHARKOV ON 4/18/17 AT 1:46 PM

Russia’s Ministry of Defense has unveiled the country’s newest Arctic military base on one of the northernmost points of its remote Franz Josef Land archipelago. Moscow has invited internet users on a virtual tour around the facility known as Arkticheskiy Trilistnik or ‘Arctic Trefoil’.

Despite its college dorm aesthetics, the base can comfortably support 150 staff for up to 18 months, establishing the mold for Russia’s post-Soviet military strategy. It is the second base of its kind since Russia unveiled a similar base on Kotelny Island  in 2015; and Russia is planning four more to follow.

The new base is a refinement of the trefoil design of three hubs, connected by  an internal quad by covered lobbies, that will likely be repeated in the planned bases at Rogachevo, Cape Schmidt, Wrangel Island and Sredniy Island. All form part of Russia’s bid to strengthen its military command and communication presence across its northernmost territories.


The new base on Franz Josef’s northern Alexandra Land has limited conventional combat capabilities and is primarily focusing on radar and surveillance. But its significance, much like its shape, is three-pronged, analysts say.


tweet at link



Northern “Coastal” Guard
While the virtual tour does not show any military equipment at the base, Igor Sutyagin, a  Russian military expert at London’s Royal United Services Institute, notes that its arsenal is likely to include anti-ship and anti-aircraft defenses. Its combat significance, alongside other similar bases, will be in surveilling a region that Moscow has struggled to keep an eye on.

“The problem with Russian defense is that until recently the Russian military had a huge gap in its radar coverage on its Arctic coast,” Sutyagin says, noting that Moscow had few facilities along the Northern Sea Route that spans the majority of the country’s length. “It meant that virtually everybody could enter the waters without notice. Now you need radar so you are just aware of what passes through.”

Sutyagin estimates that the base will have standard self-defense capabilities, such as Russia’s surface-to-air missile system Pantsir, for air defense, and a cruise missile battery with up to 400 kilometers in range. The size or nature of the first deployment is not yet public, though it will almost certainly contain navigation experts to operate the radar and Arctic intelligence equipment.

The ability to flag a potential threat has become more pertinent to Russia, particularly since China—which is not an Arctic power—has pushed for equal trade access to the world’s northernmost waters.

“Twice Chinese vessels have entered Russian territorial waters without permission from Russia, carrying out research but violating Russian sovereign law,” Sutyagin says. “Two years ago the Chinese navy sent marines on an exercise at the Bering Strait,” he adds, referring to a 2015 incident that concerned the U.S. but also Russia.

Since then, Russia has upgraded its ability to spot incoming vessels, which can then call a conventional force of Arctic-trained paratroopers or marines to the fore. Such units can be deployed quickly even from a distance.

Backing Arctic Claims
Russia is one of five countries with claims over the North Pole and the resources in it. The radar bases represent a permanent presence in its most remote areas that raises the stakes for anyone else willing to claim access to disputed waters.

“This is definitely a kind of posturing but we cannot mark it down as unfounded posturing,” Sim Tack, military analyst at Stratfor, says. “It is part of a very distinct strategy that Russia establishes a permanent presence in region to back territorial claims. It would not mean much as a development otherwise. Even if the base’s functions are limited to monitoring the fact that forces will be able to be present on the ground for an extended period of time, even in the case of supplies being interrupted, is significant.”

According to Sutyagin, radar bases are links in a newly forged Russian chain of defense in the Arctic that Moscow hopes will involve other facilities such as an airfield nearby that can host more serious and more mobile firepower, albeit not permanently.

“That is serious argument potentially with other smaller nations for instance Denmark which is preparing a claim on the north pole via Greenland,” Sutyagin says. “Russia will construct Arctic airfield less than 200 kilometers [124 miles] from the North Pole, also on Franz Josef Land, where it can deploy bombers if needed. If Denmark makes a bolder move for the North Pole, Russia can say ‘Do you have real capability to control territories where we have permanent presence?’”

A Psychological Boost
The Defense Ministry and the Kremlin’s frequent announcements of Arctic strategy—including the decision to showcase the newest base through a virtual tour—tells us something significant. The message to the Russian public is to reassure them that them that Russian capabilities are nearing the status that the Soviet Union once enjoyed in the High North.


Why Russia Is Way Ahead in Race to Control the Arctic
“To a very large extent this announcement is for PR,” Sutyagin says, adding that the government hopes to rally the patriotic spirit of military prowess with such announcements.

“They do not see this as a new claim [over the Arctic]” he says. “Rather they want to restore the Soviet sphere of influence which includes the famous Soviet Arctic triangle, spanning from the Kola peninsula to Kamchatka,” he says.

The line between the two places spans Russia’s northernmost ports, which had Arctic expertise during Soviet times though many facilities among them fell into disrepair after the end of the Cold War. Since 2014, Russian armed forces have sought to recover some of the prestige of Arctic operations, forming the Arctic military command, in the northwest. The increased visibility of these Arctic units seems to be part of a deliberate strategy to boost Russian public pride in the military at a time of economic hardship.

“Of course,” he says, “the government wants people to see it and think ‘we are so strong, so forget about your empty fridge.’”

Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: biggles on April 18, 2017, 06:59:13 pm
I'd go for NK, mainly because its controlled by a dumbass.
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Post by: spacemaverick on April 18, 2017, 07:06:12 pm
This sabre rattling with Russia has been going on since the Cold War and will continue.  Posturing, 2 powers flexing their muscles.  When I was in Europe during the Cold War, this happened all the time.  The Arctic Base has been there for quite some time.
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Post by: biggles on April 18, 2017, 07:09:27 pm
Exactly, plus they don't have the fat kid ruling the country.  ::)
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Post by: spacemaverick on April 18, 2017, 07:15:01 pm
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Major_Research_Stations_in_the_Arctic.jpg)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_stations_in_the_Arctic

Many research stations there....to include Russian ones.
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Post by: zorgon on April 19, 2017, 04:07:33 am
You guys ought to read Living Moon sometime :P

Especially about the airstrip the CIA bought INSIDE Russia  :P
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Post by: Eighthman on April 19, 2017, 05:23:02 am
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3360129/russia-wipe-out-us-navy-electronic-bomb/

In this topic, it is difficult to separate fact from fiction. Russia has claimed some new jamming capability based on different physical principles (Sputnik).  There was a rumor that all US aircraft carriers have to outfitted with fiber optics to prevent this jamming from getting thru.  Also, the US is flying F-22's over ISIS in Syria and complaining that Russian radar is "painting them".

This could be an enormous mistake in that it gives Russia a ready opportunity to practice and experiment on tracking stealth aircraft.

Oh, and there is word that some Jews are considering moving back to Russia from Israel because of social problems in Israeli culture.  The reverse emigration might be starting.
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Post by: Irene on April 19, 2017, 08:48:12 am
You guys ought to read Living Moon sometime :P

Especially about the airstrip the CIA bought INSIDE Russia  :P

Morning Zorgon,

Can you post a link to get me to the right place in the vast warehouse of Pegasus?

Irene  :)
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Post by: Somamech on April 19, 2017, 11:59:06 am
From My own Looky Loos over time I'm pretty glad the Earth's Police Force has come back from the dead!

If I recall correctly we used to have a member here who said China is Great..YET he had to use a VPN to say it to debunk another member LOL

I'm not sure if we have ever had a content Russian Member as memory fail's me, but I do think we had a member called Sarkozy at some point.  He/She didn't seem content.

At some point, we have to look to what our freedom has produced and be proud of it rather than knock it down!

North Korea Just Celebrated 101 years of Family Ownership and threatened "to use Pre-emptive Nuclear Strikes if they were Attacked" Yeah makes no sense!

The Western World which has provided the Earth all of the great things we know and love sure has it's problems.. but they dont compare to the crudhole's that deserve some Mil Might!

If what was posted here on the living moon was posted in other country's we would be Dead. But then again other country's don't have orbital weapon's and a secret space program LOL

 





Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: The Seeker on April 19, 2017, 12:23:34 pm
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3360129/russia-wipe-out-us-navy-electronic-bomb/

In this topic, it is difficult to separate fact from fiction. Russia has claimed some new jamming capability based on different physical principles (Sputnik).  There was a rumor that all US aircraft carriers have to outfitted with fiber optics to prevent this jamming from getting thru.  Also, the US is flying F-22's over ISIS in Syria and complaining that Russian radar is "painting them".
rumors are just that; rumors.  ::)

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This could be an enormous mistake in that it gives Russia a ready opportunity to practice and experiment on tracking stealth aircraft.
Nothing different than any other event for the last 70 years

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Oh, and there is word that some Jews are considering moving back to Russia from Israel because of social problems in Israeli culture.  The reverse emigration might be starting.

Since you are always downing and trashing the United States and predicting it's downfall, not to mention you are always praising Russia and China, why don't you join them

 8)

Seeker
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Post by: zorgon on April 19, 2017, 01:23:19 pm
If I recall correctly we used to have a member here who said China is Great..YET he had to use a VPN to say it to debunk another member LOL

Yes  and that person also said that Pegasus was BANNED in China because we support Tibet :P

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I'm not sure if we have ever had a content Russian Member as memory fail's me, but I do think we had a member called Sarkozy at some point.  He/She didn't seem content.

Yes Sarkozy was the only known Russian we had here :D  He didn't seem discontented so much but did tell us the things we thought Russia had ... they didn't :P

Freedom is an awkward thing  to much of it and you get what is happening in the US right now  Utter chaos :P

There was one fellow from ATS who had a friend in Russia...  He took some photos of an abandoned ICBM site  the one that was blacked out on Google Earth...

Seems a LOT of stuff in Russia is just abandoned. These dang mobile launchers are still LOADED  yet just abandoned and anyone can walk in

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Base/Base01.jpg)

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/Russian_Bases_ICBM_Site_Chukotka.html

Not sure why so many people here are upset with Russia  They mean us no harm :P


At some point, we have to look to what our freedom has produced and be proud of it rather than knock it down!

North Korea Just Celebrated 101 years of Family Ownership and threatened "to use Pre-emptive Nuclear Strikes if they were Attacked" Yeah makes no sense!

The Western World which has provided the Earth all of the great things we know and love sure has it's problems.. but they dont compare to the crudhole's that deserve some Mil Might!

If what was posted here on the living moon was posted in other country's we would be Dead. But then again other country's don't have orbital weapon's and a secret space program LOL
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Post by: space otter on April 19, 2017, 02:10:35 pm


yeah i know a lot of countries have research stations in the artic..  this was just a new one
and the planes  are still at it...might be sabre rattling or just a PR stunt to keep them visible
or maybe they have some new tech to check things out here and they are testing it with the ship and planes


but more articles today on the same thing so who knows





http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russias-military-buildup-in-arctic-puts-us-on-alert/ar-BBA1SoC?li=BBnbcA1
Russia's military buildup in Arctic puts U.S. on alert
 CBS News CBS News
8 hrs ago
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© Provided by CBS Interactive Inc. Russia's Arctic military base on Alexandra Land of the Franz Joseph Land archipelago

Russian President Vladimir Putin has never been one to pass up a photo-up, and his latest candids come from the icy Arctic. He was photographed in March pensively walking among glaciers, reports CBS News’ Jonathan Vigliotti.

The Kremlin has also previously released video of reindeer-riding Russian soldiers. It’s all part of the unveiling of the country’s crown jewel: Russia’s sprawling Trefoil military base, located just outside the Arctic Circle. It can house 150 troops and warplanes.

While parts of the base remain top secret, the military offered up a virtual tour of the building's interior. The PR rollout comes as Moscow moves to lay claim to the region’s huge oil and gas reserves believed to be worth as much as $35 trillion.

Russia, the United States, Canada, Denmark and Norway have all been trying to assert jurisdiction over parts of the Arctic. Legally it’s still unclear who can lay stake to the territory, but the Kremlin knows how persuasive a good show of force can be.

“We all stand to make money in the Arctic, but of course this will all grind to a halt if we see a new arms race instead,” former Defense Department policy analyst Robert English said.

While the U.S. has a military presence in the Arctic, including airfields and infantry bases, there is concern in Washington that Russia has pushed in recent years to expand its own military capabilities there, its most significant buildup in the region since the end of the Cold War. Defense Secretary James Mattis addressed the issue during his confirmation hearings. “The U.S. must ensure that Russia doesn’t expand those efforts to dominate the region,” Mattis said.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/russian-bombers-again-fly-near-alaska/ar-BBA2YyS

Russian bombers again fly near Alaska
 FOX News FOX News
Lucas Tomlinson
1 hr ago

For the second consecutive night, Russia flew two long-range bombers off the coast of Alaska on Tuesday, this time coming within 36 miles of the mainland while flying north of the Aleutian Islands, two U.S. officials told Fox News.

The two nuclear-capable Tu-95H bombers were spotted by U.S. military radar at 5 p.m. local time.

Unlike a similar incident Monday night, this time the U.S. Air Force did not scramble any fighter jets.

Instead, it launched a single E-3 Sentry early warning aircraft, known as AWACS, to make sure there were only the two Russian bombers flying near Alaska, and not other aircraft flying underneath the large bombers.

U.S. territorial waters extend 12 nautical miles from shore.

Two Russian bombers flew within 100 miles of Alaska on Monday night.

The Russian bombers took off from an airbase in Petropavlovsk, Russia and returned five hours later to an airbase in Anadyr. Both locations are in eastern Russia, some 1,000 miles away.

Last week in Moscow, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said U.S.-Russian relations were at a “low point” during a news conference with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

While Tillerson was in Moscow, a trio of Russian bombers flew near the east coast of Japan, forcing the Japanese military to scramble 14 fighter jets at various times to intercept the bombers. A Russian spy plane traversed Japan’s west coast.

Before Monday's flight near Alaska, the last time Russian bombers flew near the U.S. was July 4, 2015, when a pair of Russian bombers flew off the coasts of Alaska and California, coming as close as 40 miles to Mendocino, Calif.

Russian President Vladimir Putin called then-President Barack Obama to wish him a happy Independence Day while the bombers cruised the California coastline.

In February, a Russian spy ship sailed up and down the East Coast of the U.S. while remaining in international waters.
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Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on April 19, 2017, 03:11:48 pm
I'm not worried, I've got the Blue Angels practicing over my house.

 8)

https://youtu.be/i5FelqQaNZ0

Ready for the air show this weekend... 8)
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Post by: The Seeker on April 19, 2017, 03:15:35 pm
Lots of pics or it didn't happen  :P :P :P

Seeker  8)
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Post by: ArMaP on April 19, 2017, 04:48:55 pm
North Korea Just Celebrated 101 years of Family Ownership and threatened "to use Pre-emptive Nuclear Strikes if they were Attacked" Yeah makes no sense!
Wasn't it the celebration of the 105th anniversary of Kim Il-sung?
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Post by: ArMaP on April 19, 2017, 04:50:09 pm
Yes Sarkozy was the only known Russian we had here :D  He didn't seem discontented so much but did tell us the things we thought Russia had ... they didn't :P
Isn't it Sarkoy instead of Sarkozy?
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Post by: Phedre on April 19, 2017, 04:55:38 pm

The Russian Artic Base started building 2012-2013. What I find interesting, is no body in the past PTB, said "Boo"  about it as it was going on. Now suddenly, 4 or 5 years after the fact the MSM acts like it has suddenly been discovered .   ::)


https://www.rt.com/news/319394-arctic-military-base-islands/
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Post by: Eighthman on April 19, 2017, 05:15:50 pm
http://tass.com/defense/942027

I was surprised to see Tass confirm the Cook incident in which Russian jamming was near miraculous. Formerly, these claims were only seen on crazy sites such as Before It's News. 

As for the US vs Russia and China, I grew up proud of what the US did after WW2.  Things such as the Marshal Plan and changing Imperial Japan into the prosperous nation it is today were inspiring to me - as living in a conquering empire that brought peace and made the world a better place. A nation that went to the moon and defeated Communism and Fascism and created the greatest period of peace and prosperity in European history.

How did it all go so wrong? Instead of rebuilding nations, they destroy them and leave them worse than when they started. They threw away a real opportunity to pull Russia into a greater Europe and wasted trillions on pointless wars, leaving debts that will never be repaid and impoverished generations to come.

I grew up believing in metanoia - a rare quality often called "repentance".  You can see this quality when a person admits they screwed up and sincerely changes.  You see its arrogant opposite when a person digs in deeper, makes excuses and acts worse - and that is the nation I see today.

I had some hope for Trump but the Deep State ended that.  The only hope for humanity is a multi-polar world in which the violence of the US is contained. In addition, I believe such an arrangement would get us closer to Disclosure and help from ET's.  If their morality is NOT based on 'what God told us', then it is based on taking care of their group, their 'people'.  This would also explain how they managed to avoid destroying themselves (in a mushroom cloud).  Taking care of 'our own' would bring us closer to their thinking.

Some day, Mr. Spock will be proud of us.....until then I can only point out hopeful signs that we are progressing towards a better global arrangement.
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Post by: Phedre on April 19, 2017, 05:18:46 pm


Here are some great pictures



Russia unveils its new Arctic military base housing nuclear-ready warplanes and REINDEER-powered special forces as it seeks to claim the region's huge oil and gas reserves

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4421072/Russia-unveils-new-Arctic-military-base.html
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Post by: space otter on March 22, 2018, 11:33:28 am


Cyberattacks Put Russian Fingers on the Switch at Power Plants, U.S. Says

The New York Times The New York Times
By NICOLE PERLROTH and DAVID E. SANGER
6 days ago

The Trump administration accused Russia on Thursday of engineering a series of cyberattacks that targeted American and European nuclear power plants and water and electric systems, and could have sabotaged or shut power plants off at will.

United States officials and private security firms saw the attacks as a signal by Moscow that it could disrupt the West’s critical facilities in the event of a conflict.

They said the strikes accelerated in late 2015, at the same time the Russian interference in the American election was underway. The attackers had compromised some operators in North America and Europe by spring 2017, after President Trump was inaugurated.
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The groups that conducted the energy attacks, which are linked to Russian intelligence agencies, appear to be different from the two hacking groups that were involved in the election interference.



entire article here

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/cyberattacks-put-russian-fingers-on-the-switch-at-power-plants-us-says/ar-BBKh7fG?li=BBnbcA1
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Post by: petrus4 on March 22, 2018, 04:51:29 pm
A Russian doom porn thread.  I suppose this is somewhat more credible than the Nibiru variety.  Part of me would like to see the media prohibited from using the term "cyber attacks," however, as it's a phrase clearly intended to cause screaming hysteria and pleas for government or corporations to "do something!"
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Post by: spacemaverick on March 22, 2018, 08:44:30 pm
There is nothing new under the sun with all this discussion.  Things like all that is happening now have been happening for ages.  Certain people make money off of wars and plenty of it.  Meanwhile, the lower classes are the one who often pays the prices for such things.  A United States Marine Corp General said it right when he said, "War is a racket."  Major General Smedley Butler coined that phrase.  There were a couple of years I worked for defense contractors and they were ecstatic when we had a police action or war (whatever you want to call it).  It was a laboratory for all their so-called inventions.

I was a Cold War veteran and a Vietnam era veteran and the so-called saber rattling was always taking place.  Afghanistan:  Russians in there for years and we supplied the Afghans.  The Russians left and we stepped in and those we supplied decided to throw our weapons back at us.  Now we have been there 17 years.  My son has had 3 tours there as a contractor making big money.  I think the forefathers of our nation had it right when they said to stay away from foreign entanglements.  For whatever it's worth, you have my 2 cents.
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Post by: space otter on March 23, 2018, 07:12:24 am


geeeeeese guys
sorry i wasn't thinking on the issue as a war thing
i was looking more at the idea of utilities and communications being severed..
and thinking of Seekers advice on how to survive
a move to shelter in place by knowing how..it's a big order  when you think about it  cause your neighbor  will not have taken any precautions....

we have had water outages here mostly because the pipes are over 50 years in most places...so i always have water stock piles in jugs that i can use.. clean water  and when it's a month old it gets put into the washer  for laundry..and refill the containers
believe it or not i have three neighbors..who now do the same and they are telling others....
i gave them water during the broken pipes and explained to them why..they got it
same with flash lights and candles and such..
about the only time folks get it is when they are in the middle of 'no service'

so i was looking at that info in a totally different way than war..

time to get  some stuff started for the garden..another shelter in place idea
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Post by: spacemaverick on March 23, 2018, 09:18:15 am
In Florida with all the hurricanes and various other problems with the electrical grid, I have always remained ready since 2000.  I won't give any details but everything is there if needed. (with alternatives)
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Post by: ArMaP on March 23, 2018, 02:54:19 pm
War or natural events, I'm not prepared for any thing.  :P
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Post by: space otter on March 23, 2018, 06:51:54 pm


Well Armap.. you might want to think about it

Marverick...i hear ya..
personally i think all the weather things are giving us time to figure it out..and make some plans
and i plan to stay where i am so the more neighbors i can talk into being able to take care of themselves - the less problems i will have
selfish, i know..
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Post by: spacemaverick on March 23, 2018, 08:16:23 pm

Well Armap.. you might want to think about it

Marverick...i hear ya..
personally i think all the weather things are giving us time to figure it out..and make some plans
and i plan to stay where i am so the more neighbors i can talk into being able to take care of themselves - the less problems i will have
selfish, i know..

It's not selfish.  You need to take care of immediate family first and all else follows, just my opinion.
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Post by: ArMaP on March 24, 2018, 04:02:14 am
Well Armap.. you might want to think about it
I think about it, but thinking is the only thing I do. :)

Also, living in an apartment building in the middle of a large (for Portugal) city doesn't give as many option as living in an independent house.
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Post by: space otter on March 24, 2018, 08:29:53 am


Armap
think of it as a fire drill
where would you go, how would you contact your family
where would you meet up with your family
do you have a bag packed if you had to head out fast and what direction would you take is there a safe location you could meet up with family
really  i don't think we will be nuked  (well i didn't till bolton came into the picture yesterday)
but i think we are in for one helluva ride with the earth because it is in transition
i'm fortunate.. i've been getting this place prepared since way back because i plan to stay here.. only thing that has changed is the age of me and what i can handle so you adjust where you can

and yeah Maverick i agree family first

guess we should be in one of seekers bug out threads
but when i hear of bombs and services being cut i think of
what to do in those situations .. so i guess it's all connected

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Post by: ArMaP on March 24, 2018, 11:28:28 am
think of it as a fire drill
Never did or even saw one. :)

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where would you go, how would you contact your family
where would you meet up with your family
do you have a bag packed if you had to head out fast and what direction would you take is there a safe location you could meet up with family
We don't have any of those prepared.
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Post by: space otter on March 24, 2018, 12:33:06 pm


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Also, living in an apartment building in the middle of a large (for Portugal) city doesn't give as many option as living in an independent house.

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We don't have any of those prepared.

just because you don't have as many options as in a house..
you still have options
just think of what you would need if your building was going to fall down and you were evacuated..
what would you need to take and what info would you need to have with you...
i.e.  ID, bank info, insure info.etc. and maybe some cash and clothes..how fast could you get out of your apartment and where would you go
how would you contact your immediate relatives or find them

it may seem morbid but it'a always better to have a plan
then you can act instead of mostly react
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Post by: ArMaP on March 24, 2018, 01:17:21 pm
it may seem morbid but it'a always better to have a plan
then you can act instead of mostly react
You're right, specially because I live in a relatively active seismic area, I felt (if I'm not mistaken) seven earthquakes, one of them strong enough to damage older buildings.
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Post by: space otter on March 24, 2018, 01:48:11 pm


well think about it

if you woke up in your jammies and had to run fast out of there

wouldn't a packed bag by the door be a blessing...

and an already communicated plan with your loved ones of how to reconnect?

plans are good things.. so a secondary one is also good
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Post by: zorgon on March 25, 2018, 02:23:31 am
A long time ago  in a galaxy not really that far away :P I started a whole thread on getting prepared... NOT to be a survivalist but just to be ready..

Seems when we had that first forum snafu that was all erased.

I will do it again soon Am working on it now in the coffee shop 

I had started with a house fire...

Many people sleep naked or in just thin pajamas.  So it's the middle of the night and there is a fire in the house or apartment building... you need to evacuate NOW

So the power is out because of the fire and its dark

So you run outside naked or in thin garments and its the middle of winter...

Had you PREPARED   you would have a set of clothes and shoes and your wallet and car keys in ONE SPOT so you can grab it on the way out the door.  ID is hard to replace... wouldn't want to leave that to burn

Your bedroom is on second floor?  Well buy a FIRE LADDER just in case to climb out the window (there are other amazing options for higher floors

Point is if your a little prepared you won't find your ass out in the snow without clothing or a wallet to get a hotel room :P
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Post by: zorgon on March 25, 2018, 03:32:42 am
(https://scontent.flas1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29388715_974693286040548_348338795646550016_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGVo3GsMCfudfMGFX3BnxHbEvCXj_NMziW_dS_ZqM6bY7PGqDNmnNL6kM-2tb6TmT3aj_Ri3YfYUqUdzdehv5fsAZ05PHG_-RzenGQms34LUw&oh=d86cc600e60358d1a7452826794d8b77&oe=5B3740AC)
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Post by: petrus4 on March 25, 2018, 11:45:07 am
(https://scontent.flas1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29388715_974693286040548_348338795646550016_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGVo3GsMCfudfMGFX3BnxHbEvCXj_NMziW_dS_ZqM6bY7PGqDNmnNL6kM-2tb6TmT3aj_Ri3YfYUqUdzdehv5fsAZ05PHG_-RzenGQms34LUw&oh=d86cc600e60358d1a7452826794d8b77&oe=5B3740AC)

I deleted the response I was initially going to make to this thread, as I felt it was excessively vindictive; but your picture here, Zorgon, is worth the proverbial thousand words.
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Post by: petrus4 on March 25, 2018, 11:53:21 am
A long time ago  in a galaxy not really that far away :P I started a whole thread on getting prepared... NOT to be a survivalist but just to be ready..

Awww.  Is being a survivalist such a bad thing?

(https://media2.fdncms.com/gambit/imager/u/original/5348429/47_thesurvivalist_photographer_helen_sloan.jpg)

<3
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Post by: zorgon on March 25, 2018, 02:36:01 pm
Awww.  Is being a survivalist such a bad thing?

No it isn't  but 90% of people wouldn't know how and need a little help starting out getting prepped

The survivalists don't need help :P  They figure it out

One example...  if the brown poop hit the proverbial air moving device... now many people would survive without this ONE item?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Toilet_paper_orientation_over.jpg/1200px-Toilet_paper_orientation_over.jpg)
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Post by: ArMaP on March 25, 2018, 04:06:01 pm
One example...  if the brown poop hit the proverbial air moving device... now many people would survive without this ONE item?
I don't think the lack of that particular item would kill them.
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Post by: zorgon on March 25, 2018, 06:47:26 pm
I don't think the lack of that particular item would kill them.

You don't know SNOWFLAKES :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1bw99xixt0

But take away their cell phones... they will die :P
Title: Re: Russia - Should We Be Alarmed Yet? :)
Post by: petrus4 on March 25, 2018, 07:20:01 pm
You don't know SNOWFLAKES :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1bw99xixt0


I know I am supposed to resist the urge to go down to their level; but that was so, so glorious.  That was the reason why I wanted Trump to win.  Not because I believed he would do anything good for the country, but simply because I wanted, so very badly, to see the Millennial SJW Left get collectively kicked in the face.
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Post by: ArMaP on March 26, 2018, 01:48:15 pm
But take away their cell phones... they will die :P
Show me one case.
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Post by: space otter on March 26, 2018, 02:52:25 pm


what about us on here typing away

but i do have a garden
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Post by: Littleenki on March 27, 2018, 09:49:36 am
Good!  Maybe Russia can clean up Syria so all those Refuges flooding into Europe can go back home :P

Hoping they do, and loving the idea of Borscht Falafel with Vodka sauce...
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Post by: space otter on August 15, 2018, 11:12:05 am

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-45194333


Mystery Russian satellite's behaviour raises alarm in US

6 hours ago

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A mysterious Russian satellite displaying "very abnormal behaviour" has raised alarm in the US, according to a State Department official.

"We don't know for certain what it is and there is no way to verify it," said assistant secretary Yleem Poblete at a conference in Switzerland on 14 August.

She voiced fears that it was impossible to say if the object may be a weapon.

Russia has dismissed the comments as "unfounded, slanderous accusations based on suspicions".

The satellite in question was launched in October last year.

"[The satellite's] behaviour on-orbit was inconsistent with anything seen before from on-orbit inspection or space situational awareness capabilities, including other Russian inspection satellite activities," Ms Poblete told the conference on disarmament in Switzerland.

"Russian intentions with respect to this satellite are unclear and are obviously a very troubling development," she added, citing recent comments made by the commander of Russia's Space Forces, who said adopting "new prototypes of weapons" was a key objective for the force.

Ms Poblete said that the US had "serious concerns" that Russia was developing anti-satellite weapons.

Alexander Deynko, a senior Russian diplomat, told the Reuters news agency that the comments were "the same unfounded, slanderous accusations based on suspicions, on suppositions and so on".

He called on the US to contribute to a Russian-Chinese treaty that seeks to prevent an arms race in space.

'Lasers or microwaves'
Space weapons may be designed to cause damage in more subtle ways than traditional weapons like guns, which could cause a lot of debris in orbit, explained Alexandra Stickings, a research analyst at the Royal United Services Institute.

"[Such weapons may include] lasers or microwave frequencies that could just stop [a satellite] working for a time, either disable it permanently without destroying it or disrupt it via jamming," she said.

But it was difficult to know what technology is available because so much information on space-based capabilities is classified, she added.

She also said it would be very difficult to prove that any event causing interference in space was an intentional, hostile action by a specific nation state.

Ms Poblete's comments were particularly interesting in light of President Donald Trump's decision to launch a sixth branch of the US armed forces named Space Force, added Ms Stickings.

"The narrative coming from the US is, 'space was really peaceful, now look at what the Russians and Chinese are doing' - ignoring the fact that the US has developed its own capabilities."

A spokesman for the UK's Ministry of Defence said he could neither confirm nor deny any tracking of Russian satellites.

"There are a range of threats and hazards to all space capabilities in what is an increasingly contested domain," he said.

"These include the development of counter-space weapons by a number of nations.

"The UK is working closely with international allies, including the US, to re-enforce responsible and safe behaviours in space and to build knowledge, understanding and resilience."

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Post by: Pimander on August 15, 2018, 03:10:56 pm
It is probably a copy of the US military unmanned miniature space shuttle or something similar.
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Post by: Ellirium113 on August 15, 2018, 03:57:15 pm
Hypocrisy.  ;D

It takes over 2 years to test maneuverability? Right  ::)

 Is the X-37B on a secret spy mission for the US Air Force? Amateur astronomers spot mystery space plane in an unusual orbit

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3106293/Is-X-37B-secret-spy-mission-Air-Force-Amateur-astronomers-spot-mystery-space-plane-unusual-orbit.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3106293/Is-X-37B-secret-spy-mission-Air-Force-Amateur-astronomers-spot-mystery-space-plane-unusual-orbit.html)
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Post by: zorgon on August 17, 2018, 06:23:53 pm
Hypocrisy.  ;D

 Is the X-37B on a secret spy mission for the US Air Force? Amateur astronomers spot mystery space plane in an unusual orbit

I believe that was first spotted in 2010 :P

AMATEUR ASTRONOMER IMAGES X37-B SPACE PLANE IN ORBIT
 Article written: 28 May , 2010
Updated: 24 Dec , 2015
by Nancy Atkinson
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Post by: zorgon on August 17, 2018, 06:31:57 pm
.....She voiced fears that it was impossible to say if the object may be a weapon....

Voiced FEARS  yet IMPOSSIBLE to say IF it MAY be a weapon

LMAO  What a Nation of PUSSIES we have become...  US has more weapons out is space than you can shake a stick at... and this weaponization of space started with the Russian POLYUS seen first on Livingmoon years ago :P

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Russian/Polyus/Polyus_800.jpg)

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/Black_Russian_001.html