Pegasus Research Consortium

Pegasus Research Consortium => The Matrix Traveller => Topic started by: The Matrix Traveller on October 03, 2013, 03:16:05 am

Title: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 03, 2013, 03:16:05 am
How and where the atmosphere of a planet comes from.

The latest found on Mars...

http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/super-volcanoes-mars-may-have-created-atmosphere-video-5597998

Did the Earths Atmosphere also come from gas's released by Volcanoes ?


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tCLqT0lfBA[/youtube]




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/10352062/Supervolcano-that-transformed-Mars-found.html

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02691/eden1_2691058b.jpg)



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2441761/Did-supervolcanoes-Mars-dramatically-change-climate.html


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/02/article-2441761-18784E1000000578-2_634x569.jpg)


If this happened on Mars did Our atmosphere come in the same way ?

And more to the Point, did our seas also come to the surface in the same way, from what are now today,
"Oceanic Ridges" also responsible for forming the Earths plates ?
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: deuem on October 03, 2013, 03:46:36 am
Quote
And more to the Point, did our seas also come to the surface in the same way, from what are now today,
"Oceanic Ridges" also responsible for forming the Earths plates ?

I guess someone could put some Math to that question. How much steam would have to be released to get that much water. But even still to this day tons of water fall on Earth everyday from space. No water no air, that I would take to the bank.
 
Can air be made without plants? Enough fo an entire planet?
 
On the plates I think if this were the case then the Atlantic ridge would be in sub-duction but it is not, it is expanding. I also think that the continental ridges were the original water line and then something happened to bring the oceans up another 400 + feet. They are about the same height all over the world.
 
Deuem
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 03, 2013, 03:56:58 am
Hi deuem,

This may answer your Question ?

See my Post "Relocation of the Earth's Seas from above the Earth's Crust to under the Crust ?"

Quote;
A Scientific article about this....

Olivine Hydration in the Deep Upper Mantle: Effects of Temperature and Silica Activity   
J. R. Smyth1*, D. J. Frost2, F. Nestola2,3, C. M. Holl1, and G. Bromiley4
1Department of Geological Sciences, University of Colorado, Boulder, CO 80309 USA.   2Bayerisches Geoinstitut, Universität Bayreuth, 95440 Bayreuth, Germany.  3Dipartimento di Mineralogia e Petrologia, Università di Padova, Corso Garibaldi 37, I-35137 Padova, Italy.  4Department of Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge, Downing Street, Cambridge, CB2 3EQ, UK

NOTE;
Quote;
In fact, olivine alone could sequester an amount of water nearly equivalent to the entire volume
of the ocean in just the upper 410 km of the mantle
.

As a result of vast amounts of Seawater entering into the Mantle being absorbed by the Olivine a drop
in temperature takes place and the Trenches close leaning the Seas trapped under the Earth's Crust.

Due to the mechanics involving heat being generated by Gravity and the movement of the magma like
material etc. inside the planet temperature rises again over thousands of years until pressures rise
to the point where the Oceanic ridges explode into catastrophic activity one again and water explodes
under high pressure into the atmosphere only to fall as rain once again flooding the Earth once again
forming the seas again.
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 03, 2013, 04:01:00 am
Quote
On the plates I think if this were the case then the Atlantic ridge would be in sub-duction but it is not, it is expanding. I also think that the continental ridges were the original water line and then something happened to bring the oceans up another 400 + feet. They are about the same height all over the world.
 
Deuem

Like this ?

(http://library.thinkquest.org/22752/images/OCEAN_RIDGE.GIF)



Or....

(http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/webpictures/trenches-plate_tectonic_explanation_for_trenches.jpg)
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: deuem on October 03, 2013, 05:43:14 am
2 if the 3 match the Atlantic . Top and lower right. More the lower right where the continents are attached to the plate. In the top it looks like it might be sliding under.
 
What do you think about the continental shelf? They all seem to be at the same height. Should say dept now that they are covered with water.
 
deuem
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: ArMaP on October 03, 2013, 05:52:31 am
Can air be made without plants? Enough fo an entire planet?
Probably. I think I read somewhere that before plants, the atmosphere had very little oxygen, and the creation of oxygen by photosynthesis resulted in an atmosphere that, from the point of view of the first life forms, was polluted, resulting in their death, replaced by organisms that could live in oxygen rich atmosphere.
 
Quote
On the plates I think if this were the case then the Atlantic ridge would be in sub-duction but it is not, it is expanding.
Why do you think that it would be in subduction? ???
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: deuem on October 03, 2013, 07:52:09 am
If a plate is in subduction then it might pull the water  down with it. If the palte is rising then it seems to me that the water would have a harder time leaking in.
 
Deuem
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: Pimander on October 03, 2013, 10:08:57 am
Probably. I think I read somewhere that before plants, the atmosphere had very little oxygen, and the creation of oxygen by photosynthesis resulted in an atmosphere that, from the point of view of the first life forms, was polluted, resulting in their death, replaced by organisms that could live in oxygen rich atmosphere.
That is one of the fascinating things about our atmosphere.  Oxygen is pretty toxic which is why antioxidants prevent rapid ageing and cancer.  Our cells contain enzymes that mitigate against oxygen damage otherwise we'd be dead meat.

Basically oxygen is toxic but it takes about 90 years to kill you.

Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 03, 2013, 01:13:02 pm
So is this Phenomena....


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5tCLqT0lfBA[/youtube]



Part of a planets "Cyclic behaviour", driven by thermodynamics ?
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: ArMaP on October 03, 2013, 01:35:29 pm
Oxygen is pretty toxic which is why antioxidants prevent rapid ageing and cancer.
That's why receiving oxygen in a hospital for six hours left me as if I was beaten by a polo team, including the horses.  :(
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 03, 2013, 01:58:34 pm
http://io9.com/5933638/plate-tectonics-confirmed-on-mars


(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17vjlimcudzr2jpg/original.jpg)


The above image of Valles Marineris was composed by Robert L. Hurt.

After nearly forty years of research, scientists have finally proven that plate tectonics exist on Mars.
A recently published paper by An Yin in the journal Lithosophere reveals that the origin of Valles Marineris
on Mars — the longest trough system in the solar system was formed by rifting, strike-slip faulting,
and subsurface mass removal. Yin's research now shows that Earth's surface is not the only one
in the solar system subject to the forces of plate tectonics
.
 
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17vjmgbt15uuwjpg/original.jpg)

Quote;
Yin, who works out of UCLA, made the discovery by analyzing a hundred satellite images taken from
NASA's THEMIS spacecraft. He was able to confirm his discovery by comparing the images to geological examples
he had previously uncovered in the Himalayas, Tibet, and California — unique locations in which
the Earth's major plates divide.

A good example is California's Death Valley, an area featuring a series of cliffs that were formed
by a fault. Yin was able to compare these structures to a very smooth, flat side of a canyon wall
on Mars which he believes could only be generated by a fault. Speaking through a release,
Yin noted that, "You don't see these features anywhere else on other planets in our solar system,
other than Earth and Mars."

Yin's analysis also solves the mystery about how Valles Marineris was formed. It's the longest
and deepest system of canyons in our solar system — nearly 2,500 miles long and about nine times longer
than the Earth's Grand Canyon. The trough is like a gaping wound on the Red Planet, and given that scientists
had previously doubted the presence of tectonic activity on Mars, they were completely stumped about
how it got there.

Some had merely suggested that it was a "big crack" that had just opened up. But Yin's work shows
that Valles Marineris is in fact part of a plate boundary, one that's subject to slow, but persistent
horizontal motion; the two plates have moved about 93 miles relative to each other. He compares it
to Earth's Dead Sea fault system, a trough-like structure that is also moving horizontally.
The finding indicates that Mars may be subject to earthquakes, or what should be more appropriately
referred to as marsquakes.

The analysis also suggests that Mars's tectonic activities are excruciatingly slow, with major tectonic shifts
occurring about every million years or so. Yin suspects that Mars is subject to a different kind
of plate tectonics — one that may be the result of the planet just having two plates, as contrasted with
Earth's seven. Yin's study can be found at the journal Lithosophere.

Inset image courtesy NASA/JPL-Caltech/USGS.


(http://d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Valles-Marineris-NASA-World-Wind-map-Mars-Credit-NASA-580x445.jpg)


Caption: Valles Marineris NASA World Wind Map Mars Credit: NASA
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 03, 2013, 02:15:01 pm
Dan Vergano
National Geographic
Published October 2, 2013


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f0mh-Fimk4[/youtube]

 
Massive "supervolcanoes" erupted across the northern face of Mars some 3.7 billion years ago,
planetary scientists suggest. The eruptions likely blasted lava, sulfur, and ash across the red planet,
altering its atmosphere and surface.

The planets of the inner solar system—Earth, Mars, Venus, and Mercury—started their lives as boiling-hot balls
of rock, which cooled to feature thin crusts battered by asteroid and comet impacts. On Mars,
that early crust was perhaps also punctured by supersize volcanoes with calderas more than 30 miles
(50 kilometers) wide, a newly identified kind of volcanism on the red planet. (See "Mars: The Red Planet.")



"We began to find craters that weren't impact craters. So we started to wonder if what we were seeing
was volcanic," says Joseph Michalski of the Planetary Science Institute in Tucson, lead author of the study,
published today in Nature. "We can make a strong case that these were a kind of very large volcano."



Mars is already known for its volcanic features, notably Olympus Mons, a dormant volcano
some 14 miles (22 kilometers) tall and 370 miles (600 kilometers) wide, the largest volcanic mountain
in the solar system. (See "New Giant Volcano Below Sea Is Largest in the World.") However,
the newly identified supervolcanoes would point to an early era on Mars when volcanic pools
spread across its surface like fuming, open wounds.



Supervolcanoes Sighted
In the study, Michalski and his colleague, Jacob Bleacher of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center
in Greenbelt, Maryland, analyzed orbital images of the Arabia Terra highlands of northern Mars,
reporting signs of at least four massive supervolcanoes stretching across the 2,800-mile
(4,000-kilometer) plain.


These were not the familiar shield volcanoes, or mountains tipped by a narrow crater, that are widely
seen on Earth and Mars, but broad depressions some 1.1 miles (1.8 kilometers) deep. These broad
open plains of magma once would have vented massive amounts of ash and steam to the sky.
The closest comparison on Earth might be the broad volcanic caldera beneath Yellowstone National Park,
which has erupted three times over the last 2.1 million years.



"We think they would have had a profound effect on the early Martian atmosphere; we're talking
more than three billion years ago," Michalski says.

The scientists point to basalt blocks and smooth lava plains surrounding the supervolcanoes
that resemble those of caldera features on Earth to make their argument. Evidence from NASA's rover
Opportunity shows that the Meridani Planum region of Mars is a broad plain suffused with sulphur
that resembles the volcanic fallout that would be seen from supervolcanoes as well, Michalski says.


Scientific Caution
"Every decade or two someone proposes yet another otherwise previously unrecognized volcano on Mars,"
says space volcanology expert Larry Crumpler of the New Mexico Museum of Natural History and Science
in Albuquerque. He calls the supervolcano "an interesting new idea about Martian highlands volcanism
where none had been proposed before."

However, both Crumpler and MIT's Maria Zuber (who calls the observations "well supported") caution
that the supervolcanoes idea rests on interpretation of the Martian surface, which has a long history
of misleading observers.

"Like most remote-sensing studies it relies principally on circumstantial evidence," Crumpler says.
"Nonetheless, it postulates an intriguing direction for future research regarding what was the wettest period
in Martian geologic history."


Wetter, Warmer Mars
The effect of greenhouse gases released by these supervolcanoes particularly intrigues Michalski,
offering an avenue for investigating how warm Mars was in the early years of the solar system.
Although warmer and wetter than today, the era of the supervolcanoes was likely still too early
to figure in discussions of life on Mars, he adds. "A lot of people want to look at this from
the 'life on Mars' angle, but I don't think that's what is important here," he says.



Zuber says that the supervolcanoes, if they do prove to have once littered the red planet,
will only add to the picture that scientists have of the early Martian atmosphere.
The massive Tharsis region of Mars, home to Olympus Mons and several other large dormant volcanoes,
already has been accounted for in ancient climate studies, Zuber says, "so these [supervolcano]
observations do not substantially modify the view of the planet's climatic evolution."
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 03, 2013, 02:53:15 pm
Lake Taupo in NZ is one such "Supervolcano"

It is situated in about the Centre of the North Island of NZ...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Taupo

Lake Taupo has a perimeter of approximately 193 kilometres, a deepest point of 186 metres.


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Lake_Taupo_1.jpg/800px-Lake_Taupo_1.jpg)




Here is a photo of what may be a 'Lava Dome" left behind in the Lake, the whole Lake being the Volcano itself !


(http://cloud.pleasetakemeto.com/photos/ims-new-zealand/l/lake-taupo/gallery_678/lake-taupo-56707.jpg)



(http://www.virtualoceania.net/newzealand/photos/lakes/taupo/118g.jpg)



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAMrY7ty0dc[/youtube]
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: deuem on October 03, 2013, 07:43:50 pm
Hi Matrix,
 
I think they will find at least a third plate. It should work better than 2. With 2 the chances of 1 in subduduction seem hard to see..  It would mean that half the planet is sliding under the other half. It might be more of a rip we see there caused by tons of pressure elswhere. If it is just moving then at the bottom of that trench should be so rather fresh Martian ground. The inside turning out. If you squeze a grape it will slit on the side. This is what I see so far. Without the adition of billions of tons of moveable water there is little presure put on the surface unless it is volcanic flow.
 
I also like the guy that thinks it was hit by a solar class lightning storm. He showed that the shape can be caused in this way. So the ground was just evaporated when hit.
 
Another said it split open and the water went inside. All the slopes show a runn off style of erosion.
 
Deuem, need to pack the sauser and just go find out. Nice job on the thread Matrix, keep it comming...
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 03, 2013, 09:24:02 pm
Quote
I think they will find at least a third plate. It should work better than 2. With 2 the chances of 1 in subduduction seem hard to see..

"Recycling" of the Earths Crust ?

A very intelligent system, produced by LIFE I guess..   :)

We need to look from the Outside in, to see...

All is NOT governed by human reason I guess....   :)
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: deuem on October 03, 2013, 10:28:32 pm
I guess that if a planet has gravity then it has an iron core then it must have lava and that forces the surface to recycle over and over. The hotter the core the faster the recycle. The hotter the core the more plates, The cooler the core maybe none and just a few volcanoes dotted around to let off the pressure of gravity. If enough of us want this to be seen on the moon, it might happen. We like fireworks. If life is what we think then we should be able to think what we want and it should happen. Yea/Na?
 
Deuem
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 04, 2013, 12:09:25 am
Here is a video explaining the Mechanics of Volcanoes involving Scientific theory at present.
I think their understanding will sort of be correct....


http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/environment/environment-natural-disasters/volcanoes/volcanoes-101/

Quote
If life is what we think then we should be able to think what we want and it should happen. Yea/Na?

The "Species" is the "Experience".... LIFE has...

The Species (Any Species) is NOT LIFE Contrary to many peoples belief !

The ONLY One Aware is "AWARENESS".

There is NOT a single member of your body, my body or anyone else's which is "Aware",
nor is any Component Aware of "The Real You"; LIFE Entity.   :)

So can "thought" or "belief" change anything ?

NOT Directly...   :)

As both "thought" and "belief" are the end products of "Programs", NOT the cause !

ALL is "Controlled" by programs, which produce your/my/our experiences.

As the saying goes, you can't read a book unless the book has 1st been Written.

Your/my/our experiences come from "Program Books", much like the software of a "1st Person"
Video or Computer game. Except this experience is a little more sophisticated than those played on the net today.   :)

Our Choices are simply that, Choices within a "Program", whose number of Choices is determined by
the written Program.

Similar to a "1st Person" Video or Computer game except the language used in our "Processing System"
is "Geometric Based", rather than Number Based. (Like Binary, Hex, or any other)

The Idea that the Earth has a Solid Iron Core, is only a "theory" based on reflections recorded in the Earth.

We may find the behaviour of these reflections are due to other Phenomena yet to be understood.
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: deuem on October 04, 2013, 12:58:22 am
I agree on the core, nobody has absolute proof. It is an educated guess by others.
 
If the program books are limmited then so are we. If they are un-limmited then so are we. If they are stacked like next level if the score is high then we need to play the game to open new levels. New levels have more options? So the adventure would continue with out being bored to death.
 
Is everything in the game with a player, bugs, fish etc or are they just back ground clutter?
 
On the Mars issue I would think we are around level 4 or 5 now with maybe unlimmited levels to go. Maybe the levels are written as needed based on the experince learned from the last one and based on the actions of all that played the idea. This would make the game endless.......
 
Deuem
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 04, 2013, 01:39:11 am
Quote
On the Mars issue I would think we are around level 4 or 5 now with maybe unlimmited levels to go. Maybe the levels are written as needed based on the experince learned from the last one and based on the actions of all that played the idea. This would make the game endless.......

Indeed....  :)

The whole experience is NOT for any "Species" including the "human Primate",
but instead for Your "Real Self", LIFE "entity".

To understand this area, we can't look from a human perspective, but instead from LIFE.

So the outcome for your "Real Self", i.e. LIFE "Partition" is much, much different than the human "Story"...   :)

Regarding our Experience in the Earth Program it is full of surprises....   :)

NOTE; Writing the "Book" and "Experiencing" the Same Book, are two entirely different Experiences.
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 04, 2013, 02:41:32 pm
Where my interests are though in this thread, are in the Mechanics of this "Experience" or Universe.

It is Obvious to me that "Thermodynamics" plays a huge role in what we are seeing regarding the planets
and Moons.

As we look at the different Planets and Moons, we find the development of these in the "Story" (our Experience)
all at different stages.

If we look carefully, we will find that the environment has built into it, "Recycling" systems !

We may also find, much of what is above the surface of Planets and Moons, has been manufactured below
the surface, and is released by various different sized Volcanic action, coming in different forms
according to the planets or Moons stage of development or on going behaviour.

I will show some things which may inspire others to look into, regarding the Internal workings
of Stars Planets and Moons.

I will start with the Planet Earth, as it is closest to us and the easiest to study.

I will endeavour to put something together over the next few days regarding the Earths Magnetic Field
HOW it is produced and its part it plays in the Earths Mechanics.

I will be doing a little online research, to see if I can show this, through our human based "theories"
which exist at present.
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: zorgon on October 04, 2013, 02:51:50 pm
Or....

[youtube]V0_UALXlLSY[/youtube]
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: ArMaP on October 04, 2013, 04:08:22 pm
I will show some things which may inspire others to look into, regarding the Internal workings
of Stars Planets and Moons.
I would like to ask you something: could you please write in a way that anyone understands?

This is a subject that I like and I would like to see what you're going to present, but the way you write makes it very difficult for me to understand.

Thanks in advance. :)
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 04, 2013, 04:31:04 pm
Or....

[youtube]V0_UALXlLSY[/youtube]

Interesting Z...

The interplay of Dynamics and fractal behaviour produces patterns which can be interpreted in numerous ways.

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2010/feb/09/fractal-patterns-spotted-in-the-quantum-realm

The behaviour is inherent in our environment.

But what I am about to show does involve Electrical and Magnetic phenomena, inside the Earth.
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 04, 2013, 04:36:22 pm
I would like to ask you something: could you please write in a way that anyone understands?

This is a subject that I like and I would like to see what you're going to present, but the way you write makes it very difficult for me to understand.

Thanks in advance. :)

What I am trying to show is nothing like simple, but at times I can only show it in the way I do.

Contradictory ?

Perhaps..... but often there is no other way. Unless of course you do the writing for me....   :)
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: ArMaP on October 04, 2013, 05:09:47 pm
What I am trying to show is nothing like simple, but at times I can only show it in the way I do.

That's too bad. :(

Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 04, 2013, 07:36:11 pm
That's too bad. :(

Thanks anyway.

I was giving you an invite to write for me, as I am NOT a Writer....  :)

Respectfully; I was hoping you would take up my offer, being able to do a better job than myself...
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 04, 2013, 07:54:30 pm
Anyway I will continue for those who are interested.

I will leave this to be pondered over while I put something together.

Consider the "Fluid Dynamics" involved with a revolving Sphere such as the Earth below the Mantle
bearing mind the affect the mantle has on its Fluid Dynamics.

The other area involves Magnetic fields produced by Plasma's.... rather than the equipment,
producing Plasma's, such as a Tokamak.


http://www.iter.org/mach

ITER is based on the 'tokamak' concept of magnetic confinement, in which the plasma is contained
in a doughnut-shaped vacuum vessel. The fuel—a mixture of deuterium and tritium, two isotopes
of hydrogen—is heated to temperatures in excess of 150 million°C, forming a hot plasma.

Strong magnetic fields are used to keep the plasma away from the walls; these are produced
by superconducting coils surrounding the vessel, and by an electrical current driven through the plasma.
Scroll over the machine with your cursor to identify the different parts of the machine.


The other Area involves the behaviour within "Particle Accelerators".


But 1st consider the "Fluid Dynamics" with in the Earths Interior.


Some might be surprised what is actually taking place below our feet and HOW the Sun plays a part
in molecules being mutated within the Earths Interior and HOW the Earth produces our resources.    :)
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: ArMaP on October 05, 2013, 05:18:01 am
I was giving you an invite to write for me, as I am NOT a Writer....  :)
Neither am I, and how am I suppose to write it if I don't understand what you mean? I can only copy and paste. ;D
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: deuem on October 05, 2013, 05:48:40 am
Anyway I will continue for those who are interested.

I will leave this to be pondered over while I put something together.

Consider the "Fluid Dynamics" involved with a revolving Sphere such as the Earth below the Mantle
bearing mind the affect the mantle has on its Fluid Dynamics.

The other area involves Magnetic fields produced by Plasma's.... rather than the equipment,
producing Plasma's, such as a Tokamak.


http://www.iter.org/mach (http://www.iter.org/mach)

ITER is based on the 'tokamak' concept of magnetic confinement, in which the plasma is contained
in a doughnut-shaped vacuum vessel. The fuel—a mixture of deuterium and tritium, two isotopes
of hydrogen—is heated to temperatures in excess of 150 million°C, forming a hot plasma.

Strong magnetic fields are used to keep the plasma away from the walls; these are produced
by superconducting coils surrounding the vessel, and by an electrical current driven through the plasma.
Scroll over the machine with your cursor to identify the different parts of the machine.


The other Area involves the behaviour within "Particle Accelerators".


But 1st consider the "Fluid Dynamics" with in the Earths Interior.


Some might be surprised what is actually taking place below our feet and HOW the Sun plays a part
in molecules being mutated within the Earths Interior and HOW the Earth produces our resources.    :)

Sorry but I had to go back and read this 3 times becaus of the train problem your having.
Under nomonal, the fluid in the core if it is there should be rubbing on the walls causing the inner core to slow down its rotation and eventually come to a halt. Is it possible that the suns gamma rays and others have penetrated to the core and changed materials to a radioactive state and created a buble of sorts where the friction is very low.
 So depending on the make up of a planet this process would work or not. I don't think distance would be a factor, just time. Gravity ( what ever that is ) must come into play also in the equasion. So if the Earth was 10 times the size and made of the same stuff it should turn for at least 10 time longer.
 
From what i understand all radioactive material is a product of the sun and time and is not natural.
 
If the core is magnetic and attracting particles and the sun is adding radiation to the mix then the magnetic field could be considered the main reason for life as we know it. We are all in its realm 24/7 just can't feel it. But we can see the results. Like a black hole this center mass seems responsible for the amount of gravity we have. It pulls it in. No gravity in space? If the center was empty the gravity should be a lot less. I don't care about the weight I care about the mix.
 
Deuem
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: Pimander on October 05, 2013, 06:49:04 am
From what i understand all radioactive material is a product of the sun and time and is not natural.
Is this a competition to see who can type the most lines of text without anyone understanding you? :P ::)

"All radioactive material is a product of the Sun and time,"  Is it?

"and is not natural."  What on Earth are you on about?
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: deuem on October 05, 2013, 08:28:45 am
I believe it is not natural to Earth. It is a product produced by the Sun over a period of millions of years. the suns radiation changes the material, we dig it up and change it again. If you were on a planet very far from a star you should have very little if not no radioactive ore.
 
I believe matrix is leading up to how everything recycles and how. Including the planets. I am sure he will chime in, it is very later out here.
 
Deuem
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 05, 2013, 02:14:24 pm
Quote
Is this a competition to see who can type the most lines of text without anyone understanding you? :P ::)

"All radioactive material is a product of the Sun and time,"  Is it?

"and is not natural."  What on Earth are you on about?

LOL....

What I will present will involve a number of different Subjects involving the Earth, which all come together
to show something which may be amazing to those who are technically minded.

But I shall present one subject at a time, the 1st of which involves Eddies within the Earths Core.
The Drawings that you normally see on the net regarding the Earths make up are way off scale giving
a false picture of the scope of things so we need to get a handle on the proportions of things.

Just give me a little time and All shall become clear for you.

As I said this is NOT a simple Model to explain in 2 seconds.

Deuem,
Regarding the Connection with the Sun this involves Particles from the Sun (Solar wind) which entre
the Earths Interior,at the Polar Regions. This on its own, is a huge subject but is part of the overall model.

We often see...

(http://www.northernlightscentre.ca/images/northernlights.jpg)

Quote
The temperature above the surface of the sun is millions of degrees Celsius. At this temperature,
collisions between gas molecules are frequent and explosive. Free electrons and protons are thrown
from the sun's atmosphere by the rotation of the sun and escape through holes in the magnetic field.
Blown towards the earth by the solar wind, the charged particles are largely deflected by the earth's magnetic field.
However, the earth's magnetic field is weaker at either pole

LOL...  NOT True... It has to do with the Lines of Force with respect to incoming Particles NOT Field Strength.

A Magnetic field is stronger at the poles NOT weaker indicated by the Lines of force (Mapped Strength)
being much closer together reflecting the strength of the Magnetic field.

Note; the Magnetic lines of force we refer to is the mapping of a field regarding its strength.

(http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/imgmag/bar.gif)


or looking at the North pole End...

(http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/imgmag/esou.gif)


and in Electromagnetic fields (Solenoid)

(http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/imgmag/barsol.gif)


(http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/imgmag/elmag.gif)



And having an Iron core.

(http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/imgmag/icore.gif)



Quote
and therefore some particles enter the earth's atmosphere and collide with gas particles.
These collisions emit light that we perceive as the dancing lights of the north (and the south).

The lights of the Aurora generally extend from 80 kilometres (50 miles) to as high as 640 kilometres (400 miles) above the earth's surface.



But we ONLY SEE the result of the SLOWER Particles, interacting in the upper atmosphere.

He don't see any display of the "Ultra High Speed Particles" as they pass through and it is these Particles
we need to look at !

But Deuem be patient.....   :)   I will show all this later on and HOW it fits into the whole system of things.



At this stage; We need to look at the "Dynamics" of the Rotating Mass, we call the Earth
and what is taking place in the Molten Core especially involving electric "Eddies" within this dense like Plasma.

So get that cup of coffee pull up a chair and I will show what has never been perceived by the human species before...   :)

I promise to show one part at a time and connect these models together to show the End Product
which mutates matter within the Planet and is then presented to the surface of the Planet appearing
as our natural resources, involving a range of elements and Gasses water etc..

Its NOT a simple like rock rotating about a star !

I will do a "SCALE" drawing today, of the Earths make up according to your present day theories.

I will do my best to get it somewhere near to being perspective....  :)
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 05, 2013, 04:04:00 pm
Here is that Drawing...

I can't draw the Earths theoretical Crust thin enough shown in the drawing as Green, nor can I draw
the Earth's Atmosphere thin enough, shown in Blue, but The proportions showing the Mantel in Brown
and the Earths Core (Liquid or Gooey) are proportionally more accurate.
I scaled this in "Flash".

"Click" on the Image to get a better appreciation of the Proportions !    :)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/Earths_Internal_Proportions_01.jpg)

Slightly different perspective than shown in other drawings on the net.   LOL.
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: Pimander on October 05, 2013, 04:33:50 pm
So get that cup of coffee pull up a chair and I will show what has never been perceived by the human species before...   :)

I promise to show one part at a time and connect these models together to show the End Product
which mutates matter within the Planet and is then presented to the surface of the Planet appearing
as our natural resources, involving a range of elements and Gasses water etc..
You have my attention.   :)
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 05, 2013, 04:54:49 pm
You have my attention.   :)

Please be patient with me... As I said I am No writer and what I am about to show you is HUGE,
and involves many different technical areas.

At present (right now) I am writing up something with Drawings and other Diagrams off the net.
to 1st give a glimpse of the "Dynamics" involved in the Earth, which physically is acting as though a huge
Fluid Flywheel, (NOT involving a Torque Converter as in the Case of Automatic Transmissions...  :) )
but never the less does involve "Fluid Dynamics" although very, very, slow still plays an important role
in things, as it has much to do with forces rather than speed.

But as the Earth is a large Mass, even though small compared to other planets in our universe,
we need to get an appreciation of what is really going on.

I will do my best to put all this in its true context with existing theory !   :)
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: deuem on October 05, 2013, 06:56:04 pm
Please continue at your own rate. this is fascinating stuff........
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 05, 2013, 08:20:17 pm
Lets see what is going on in the Liquid or gooey core. The inner part Believed (Assumed) to be solid,
we will look at later, but for now lets say the whole interior is Liquid and for now NO solid core exists.

Don't worry Deuem,   :)   all shall be explained regarding the interpretation of a Solid Core Believed
(Assumed) to exist !

Here is an example of a fluid Flywheel found in the Automatic transmission of a car or truck or other transport.

The Fluid Flywheell:

Quote
A fluid coupling is a hydrodynamic device used to transmit rotating mechanical power.

It has been used in automobile transmissions as an alternative to a mechanical clutch.

It also has widespread application in marine and industrial machine drives, where variable speed
operation and/or controlled start-up without shock loading of the power transmission system
is essential.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Fluid_flywheel%2C_part_section_%28Autocar_Handbook%2C_13th_ed%2C_1935%29.jpg/597px-Fluid_flywheel%2C_part_section_%28Autocar_Handbook%2C_13th_ed%2C_1935%29.jpg)



I have drawn a diagram showing the Flow of oil which completes the Coupling between the Driving
and Driven Components.

The Blue Component on the Left is the "Input" Component. The Red Component on the right
is the "Driven" Component.

The arrows show the direction of oil Flow when the Input Component on the Left is Rotated.

This flow behaviour is determined obviously by the architecture of the Mechanism.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/Fluid_Flywheel_01.jpg)


But if we rotate a Sphere containing fluid which is influenced by its rotation. (using sticky fluid)
we get a flow in the liquid something like this, shown here in a drawing representing the Earth.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/The_Earth_as_a_fFuid_Flywheel_01.jpg)


Now according to Scientist from the Earth is claimed Quote;

Quote
Most scientists agree that Earth's magnetic field arises from convection currents in the liquid
outer core, a good conductor of electricity. These currents constitute an amplifying, self-sustaining
"geodynamo."

Interesting... ? ? ?    :)

Remember this as I go on to explain !


So 2 Toroid type electromagnetic ring systems are produced as a result.
Remembering we are looking at molten conductive rock like in a plasma form due to
its high temperature and the enormous pressure this rock is being subjected to.
Its NOT you normal rock found in your back yard...    :)



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/Toroid_01.jpg)


So lets take a look at the Theory regarding Toroidal magnetic fields regarding this.

Here is a bright young technician, who is familiar with mathematics...

Nothing wrong with his Math....   :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCSHcftPAIM[/youtube]

Now remember his Conclusions...

As I said nothing wrong with the Math itself....   :) I suspect he was a good student..

But now lets take a look at what we call "CT Transformers" and see if this Technicians Conclusions
were/are in fact Correct. ? ? ?


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/Stromwandler_Zeichnung.svg/625px-Stromwandler_Zeichnung.svg.png)



(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Leistungsschalter-110KV.jpg/220px-Leistungsschalter-110KV.jpg)



Like any other transformer, a current transformer has a primary winding, a magnetic core
and a secondary winding. The alternating current flowing in the primary produces
an alternating magnetic field in the core, which then induces an alternating current
in the secondary winding circuit.
An essential objective of current transformer design is to ensure that the primary and secondary
circuits are efficiently coupled, so that the secondary current bears an accurate relationship
to the primary current.

The most common design of CT consists of a length of wire wrapped many times around
a silicon steel ring passed 'around' the circuit being measured. The CT's primary circuit
therefore consists of a single 'turn' of conductor, with a secondary of many tens or hundreds of turns.
The primary winding may be a permanent part of the current transformer, with a heavy copper bar
to carry current through the magnetic core.

Window-type current transformers (aka zero sequence current transformers, or ZSCT)
are also common, which can have circuit cables run through the middle of an opening in the core
to provide a single-turn primary winding. When conductors passing through a CT are not centered
in the circular (or oval) opening, slight inaccuracies may occur.
Shapes and sizes can vary depending on the end user or switchgear manufacturer.
Typical examples of low voltage single ratio metering current transformers are either ring type
or plastic moulded case.

High-voltage current transformers are mounted on porcelain bushings to insulate them from ground.
Some CT configurations slip around the bushing of a high-voltage transformer or circuit breaker,
which automatically centers the conductor inside the CT window.

The primary circuit is largely unaffected by the insertion of the CT. The rated secondary current
is commonly standardized at 1 or 5 amperes. For example, a 4000:5 CT would provide
an output current of 5 amperes when the primary was passing 4000 amperes.

The secondary winding can be single ratio or multi-ratio, with five taps being common for multi-ratio
CTs.
The load, or burden, of the CT should be of low resistance. If the voltage time integral area
is higher than the core's design rating, the core goes into saturation towards the end of each cycle,
distorting the waveform and affecting accuracy.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/CurrentTransformers.jpg/220px-CurrentTransformers.jpg)


and

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Clampmeter.jpg/120px-Clampmeter.jpg)


Which does NOT appear reinforce this “Theory” according to this technician !

Referring to the Youtube video above in this Post....   :)

Something is amiss here...

The technician here, falls into the trap of NOT understanding Basic Dynamics
involving Centrifugal force... a very common error made by many.

More about these errors in Somamech's Thread "A Very Simple Spinning Wheel at Low RPM"
in my forums, which I will be adding to.


http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/current-transformer.html

Toroidal current transformers – These do not contain a primary winding. Instead, the line that carries
the current flowing in the network is threaded through a window or hole in the toroidal transformer.
Some current transformers have a "split core" which allows it to be opened, installed, and closed,
without disconnecting the circuit to which they are attached.


Bar-type current transformers – This type of current transformer uses the actual cable or bus-bar
of the main circuit as the primary winding, which is equivalent to a single turn.
They are fully insulated from the high operating voltage of the system and are usually bolted to
the current carrying device.

Current transformers can reduce or "step-down" current levels from thousands of amperes down
to a standard output of a known ratio to either 5 Amps or 1 Amp for normal operation.
Thus, small and accurate instruments and control devices can be used with CT's because they are
insulated away from any high-voltage power lines.
There are a variety of metering applications and uses for current transformers such as with wattmeter's,
power factor meters, watt-hour meters, protective relays, or as trip coils in magnetic circuit breakers,
or MCB's.


(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans53.gif)



Just a little bit of Trivia;
I was a Production Manager, many years ago in a Transformer Manufacturing Plant Manufacturing
Transformers of all sorts of sizes and shapes, including the Manufacture of HV Transformers etc.
for Major Power Stations.... 

I guess Magnetic Induction coupling exists after all in Toroids, or these CT Transformers couldn't work ?
The Fact is, they do work.... and are used in many applications.

So as is the case in Transformers, the Phenomena is also Bi-Directional....

Generally current transformers and ammeters are used together as a matched pair in which
the design of the current transformer is such as to provide a maximum secondary current corresponding
to a full-scale deflection on the ammeter.

In most current transformers an approximate inverse turns ratio exists between the two currents
in the primary and secondary windings. This is why calibration of the CT is generally for
a specific type of ammeter.
For most current transformers the primary and secondary currents are expressed as a ratio such as 100/5.
This means that when 100 Amps is flowing in the primary winding it will result in 5 Amps flowing
in the secondary winding. By increasing the number of secondary windings, N2, the secondary current
can be made much smaller than the current in the primary circuit being measured.
In other words, as N2 increases, I2 goes down by a proportional amount.
We know from our tutorial on double wound transformers that its turns ratio is equal to:

(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans54.gif)

from which we get:

(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans55.gif)

As the primary usually consists of one or two turns whilst the secondary can have several
hundred turns, the ratio between the primary and secondary can be quite large. For example,
assume that the current rating of the primary winding is 100A.

The secondary winding has the standard rating of 5A. Then the ratio between the primary
and the secondary currents is 100A-to-5A, or 20:1. In other words, the primary current
is 20 times greater than the secondary current.
It should be noted however, that a current transformer rated as 100/5 is not the same as one
rated as 20/1 or subdivisions of 100/5. This is because the ratio of 100/5 expresses
the "input/output current rating" and not the actual ratio of the primary to the secondary currents.
Also note that the number of turns and the current in the primary and secondary windings are related
by an inverse proportion.
But relatively large changes in a current transformers turns ratio can be achieved by modifying
the primary turns through the CT's window where one primary turn is equal to one pass and more
than one pass through the window results in the electrical ratio beng modified.
So for example, a current transformer with a relationship of say, 300/5A can be converted to another
of 150/5A or even 100/5A by passing the main primary conductor through its interior window two
or three times as shown. This allows a higher value current transformer to provide the maximum
output current for the ammeter when used on smaller primary current lines.
Current Transformer Primary Turns Ratio


(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans55a.gif)


Example No1
A bar-type current transformer which has 1 turn on its primary and 160 turns on its secondary
is to be used with a standard range of ammeters that have an internal resistance of 0.2?'s.
The ammeter is required to give a full scale deflection when the primary current is 800 Amps.
Calculate the maximum secondary current and secondary voltage across the ammeter.
Secondary Current:


(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans56.gif)


Voltage across Ammeter:

(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans57.gif)

We can see above that since the secondary of the current transformer is connected across
the ammeter, which has a very small resistance, the voltage drop across the secondary winding
is only 1.0 volts at full primary current. If the ammeter is removed, the secondary winding
becomes open-circuited and the transformer acts as a step-up transformer resulting in
a very high voltage equal to the ratio of:  Vp(Ns/Np) being developed across the secondary winding.
So for example, assume our current transformer from above is connected to a 480 volt
three-phase power line. Therefore:


(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans58.gif)



This is why a current transformer should never be open-circuited or operated with no-load attached
when the main primary current is flowing. If the ammeter is to be removed, a short-circuit
should be placed across the secondary terminals first. This is because when the secondary
is open-circuited the iron core of the transformer operates at a high degree of saturation,
which produces an abnormally large secondary voltage, and in our simple example above,
this was calculated at 76.8kV!.
This high secondary voltage could damage the insulation or cause electric shock if the CT's terminals
are accidentally touched.

Another Diagram showing the Primary Conductor acting as a single primary turn in the CT
Transformer Configuration.

(http://sound.westhost.com/xfmr17-2.gif)


Now if we apply the "Right hand rule" to find out north and south with regard to flow,
by wrapping our fingers around the Earth (Little version..  :)  ) with our thumb pointing to North,
then our fingers will indicate the direction of Rotation of the Hot Stuff in the Planet.
And BINGO !
The Earth does turn the Correct way to produce the North Pole in the Correct Hemisphere...   :)


But here we are referring to the "Secondary" Rotation as theses toroids are also rotating
in the same direction of the planet at the same time.

Quote
A different form of the right-hand rule, sometimes called the right-hand grip rule
or the corkscrew-rule, is used either when a vector (such as the Euler vector) must be defined
to represent the rotation of a body, a magnetic field or a fluid, or vice versa when it is necessary
to decode the rotation vector, to understand how the corresponding rotation occurs.

This version of the rule is used in two complementary applications of Ampère's circuital law:

1.      An electric current passes through a solenoid, resulting in a magnetic field.
         When you wrap your right hand around the solenoid with your fingers in the direction
         of the conventional current, your thumb points in the direction of the magnetic north pole.


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Manoderecha.svg/407px-Manoderecha.svg.png)



Quote
2.      An electric current passes through a straight wire. Here, the thumb points in the direction
         of the conventional current (from positive to negative), and the fingers point in the direction
         of the magnetic lines of flux.

The rule is also used to determine the direction of the torque vector. If you grip the imaginary
axis of rotation of the rotational force so that your fingers point in the direction of the force,
then the extended thumb points in the direction of the torque vector.
The right-hand rule is just a convention. When applying the rule to current in a straight wire
for example, the direction of the magnetic field (counter clockwise instead of clockwise
when viewed from the tip of the thumb) is a result of this convention and not an underlying physical phenomenon.

The right-hand rule as applied to motion produced with screw threads

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Right-hand_grip_rule.svg/350px-Right-hand_grip_rule.svg.png)

My next post will deal with Errors involving the mapping of the Interior of the Earth and why
we make wrong assumptions regarding the internal makeup of our planet.
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on October 10, 2013, 12:38:06 pm
Sorry... I have been tied up in other things over the last couple of days...   :(

I will be writing more, explaining the relationship re. CT Transformers involving "Eddies" and the Internal
behaviour of the Earth and other Planets and Moons etc.
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: Lt_bear13 on January 07, 2014, 11:16:17 am
My grandma was just recently talking about seeing something on tv about how the continents are drifting back together into another pangea, I found this article describing it

http://www.livescience.com/18387-future-earth-supercontinent-amasia.html


Also, it reminds me of nassim haramein and klaus dona releasing and interpreting newly found mayan artifacts that depict flying saucers and aliens (grey zetas). there is a glyph towards the end of this video which shows a triangle shape of the sun, which is similar to in 2011 or 2012 when a giant pyramid/tetrahedron shaped pyramid appeared on the sun, possibly the glyph is depicting this as a cycle just as described by the mayan elder when these geometries are activated like a galactic alignment.

This article is about mayan ark geometry, in which the noah like figure was directed by enki to build a cube/ark to escape the flood, and sumerian depictions show the same person going into an ark which is called a 'watery abyss', the tower of bable, babu means gate, el mans god, and the city was a stargate city basically and the noah like figure possibly escaped the 3,600 shar/great flood which the scholar in timeaus said happens periodically in which mankind has to start from scratch each time, which is correlated by ice core samples in their magnetic qualities.

http://issuu.com/theresistance/docs/mayan-ark-geometry

it seems we are coming around to this possibly related zodiac cycle of cataclysm
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: Lt_bear13 on January 07, 2014, 11:18:03 am
the nassim haramein and klaus dona video on the recently released mayan artifacts which were hidden by the mexican government

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lglOsgnPyug
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: Lt_bear13 on January 07, 2014, 11:26:29 am
Lets see what is going on in the Liquid or gooey core. The inner part Believed (Assumed) to be solid,
we will look at later, but for now lets say the whole interior is Liquid and for now NO solid core exists.

Don't worry Deuem,   :)   all shall be explained regarding the interpretation of a Solid Core Believed
(Assumed) to exist !

Here is an example of a fluid Flywheel found in the Automatic transmission of a car or truck or other transport.

The Fluid Flywheell:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Fluid_flywheel%2C_part_section_%28Autocar_Handbook%2C_13th_ed%2C_1935%29.jpg/597px-Fluid_flywheel%2C_part_section_%28Autocar_Handbook%2C_13th_ed%2C_1935%29.jpg)



I have drawn a diagram showing the Flow of oil which completes the Coupling between the Driving
and Driven Components.

The Blue Component on the Left is the "Input" Component. The Red Component on the right
is the "Driven" Component.

The arrows show the direction of oil Flow when the Input Component on the Left is Rotated.

This flow behaviour is determined obviously by the architecture of the Mechanism.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/Fluid_Flywheel_01.jpg)


But if we rotate a Sphere containing fluid which is influenced by its rotation. (using sticky fluid)
we get a flow in the liquid something like this, shown here in a drawing representing the Earth.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/The_Earth_as_a_fFuid_Flywheel_01.jpg)


Now according to Scientist from the Earth is claimed Quote;

Interesting... ? ? ?    :)

Remember this as I go on to explain !


So 2 Toroid type electromagnetic ring systems are produced as a result.
Remembering we are looking at molten conductive rock like in a plasma form due to
its high temperature and the enormous pressure this rock is being subjected to.
Its NOT you normal rock found in your back yard...    :)



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/Toroid_01.jpg)


So lets take a look at the Theory regarding Toroidal magnetic fields regarding this.

Here is a bright young technician, who is familiar with mathematics...

Nothing wrong with his Math....   :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCSHcftPAIM[/youtube]

Now remember his Conclusions...

As I said nothing wrong with the Math itself....   :) I suspect he was a good student..

But now lets take a look at what we call "CT Transformers" and see if this Technicians Conclusions
were/are in fact Correct. ? ? ?


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/Stromwandler_Zeichnung.svg/625px-Stromwandler_Zeichnung.svg.png)



(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Leistungsschalter-110KV.jpg/220px-Leistungsschalter-110KV.jpg)



Like any other transformer, a current transformer has a primary winding, a magnetic core
and a secondary winding. The alternating current flowing in the primary produces
an alternating magnetic field in the core, which then induces an alternating current
in the secondary winding circuit.
An essential objective of current transformer design is to ensure that the primary and secondary
circuits are efficiently coupled, so that the secondary current bears an accurate relationship
to the primary current.

The most common design of CT consists of a length of wire wrapped many times around
a silicon steel ring passed 'around' the circuit being measured. The CT's primary circuit
therefore consists of a single 'turn' of conductor, with a secondary of many tens or hundreds of turns.
The primary winding may be a permanent part of the current transformer, with a heavy copper bar
to carry current through the magnetic core.

Window-type current transformers (aka zero sequence current transformers, or ZSCT)
are also common, which can have circuit cables run through the middle of an opening in the core
to provide a single-turn primary winding. When conductors passing through a CT are not centered
in the circular (or oval) opening, slight inaccuracies may occur.
Shapes and sizes can vary depending on the end user or switchgear manufacturer.
Typical examples of low voltage single ratio metering current transformers are either ring type
or plastic moulded case.

High-voltage current transformers are mounted on porcelain bushings to insulate them from ground.
Some CT configurations slip around the bushing of a high-voltage transformer or circuit breaker,
which automatically centers the conductor inside the CT window.

The primary circuit is largely unaffected by the insertion of the CT. The rated secondary current
is commonly standardized at 1 or 5 amperes. For example, a 4000:5 CT would provide
an output current of 5 amperes when the primary was passing 4000 amperes.

The secondary winding can be single ratio or multi-ratio, with five taps being common for multi-ratio
CTs.
The load, or burden, of the CT should be of low resistance. If the voltage time integral area
is higher than the core's design rating, the core goes into saturation towards the end of each cycle,
distorting the waveform and affecting accuracy.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/CurrentTransformers.jpg/220px-CurrentTransformers.jpg)


and

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Clampmeter.jpg/120px-Clampmeter.jpg)


Which does NOT appear reinforce this “Theory” according to this technician !

Referring to the Youtube video above in this Post....   :)

Something is amiss here...

The technician here, falls into the trap of NOT understanding Basic Dynamics
involving Centrifugal force... a very common error made by many.

More about these errors in Somamech's Thread "A Very Simple Spinning Wheel at Low RPM"
in my forums, which I will be adding to.


http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/current-transformer.html

Toroidal current transformers – These do not contain a primary winding. Instead, the line that carries
the current flowing in the network is threaded through a window or hole in the toroidal transformer.
Some current transformers have a "split core" which allows it to be opened, installed, and closed,
without disconnecting the circuit to which they are attached.


Bar-type current transformers – This type of current transformer uses the actual cable or bus-bar
of the main circuit as the primary winding, which is equivalent to a single turn.
They are fully insulated from the high operating voltage of the system and are usually bolted to
the current carrying device.

Current transformers can reduce or "step-down" current levels from thousands of amperes down
to a standard output of a known ratio to either 5 Amps or 1 Amp for normal operation.
Thus, small and accurate instruments and control devices can be used with CT's because they are
insulated away from any high-voltage power lines.
There are a variety of metering applications and uses for current transformers such as with wattmeter's,
power factor meters, watt-hour meters, protective relays, or as trip coils in magnetic circuit breakers,
or MCB's.


(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans53.gif)



Just a little bit of Trivia;
I was a Production Manager, many years ago in a Transformer Manufacturing Plant Manufacturing
Transformers of all sorts of sizes and shapes, including the Manufacture of HV Transformers etc.
for Major Power Stations.... 

I guess Magnetic Induction coupling exists after all in Toroids, or these CT Transformers couldn't work ?
The Fact is, they do work.... and are used in many applications.

So as is the case in Transformers, the Phenomena is also Bi-Directional....

Generally current transformers and ammeters are used together as a matched pair in which
the design of the current transformer is such as to provide a maximum secondary current corresponding
to a full-scale deflection on the ammeter.

In most current transformers an approximate inverse turns ratio exists between the two currents
in the primary and secondary windings. This is why calibration of the CT is generally for
a specific type of ammeter.
For most current transformers the primary and secondary currents are expressed as a ratio such as 100/5.
This means that when 100 Amps is flowing in the primary winding it will result in 5 Amps flowing
in the secondary winding. By increasing the number of secondary windings, N2, the secondary current
can be made much smaller than the current in the primary circuit being measured.
In other words, as N2 increases, I2 goes down by a proportional amount.
We know from our tutorial on double wound transformers that its turns ratio is equal to:

(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans54.gif)

from which we get:

(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans55.gif)

As the primary usually consists of one or two turns whilst the secondary can have several
hundred turns, the ratio between the primary and secondary can be quite large. For example,
assume that the current rating of the primary winding is 100A.

The secondary winding has the standard rating of 5A. Then the ratio between the primary
and the secondary currents is 100A-to-5A, or 20:1. In other words, the primary current
is 20 times greater than the secondary current.
It should be noted however, that a current transformer rated as 100/5 is not the same as one
rated as 20/1 or subdivisions of 100/5. This is because the ratio of 100/5 expresses
the "input/output current rating" and not the actual ratio of the primary to the secondary currents.
Also note that the number of turns and the current in the primary and secondary windings are related
by an inverse proportion.
But relatively large changes in a current transformers turns ratio can be achieved by modifying
the primary turns through the CT's window where one primary turn is equal to one pass and more
than one pass through the window results in the electrical ratio beng modified.
So for example, a current transformer with a relationship of say, 300/5A can be converted to another
of 150/5A or even 100/5A by passing the main primary conductor through its interior window two
or three times as shown. This allows a higher value current transformer to provide the maximum
output current for the ammeter when used on smaller primary current lines.
Current Transformer Primary Turns Ratio


(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans55a.gif)


Example No1
A bar-type current transformer which has 1 turn on its primary and 160 turns on its secondary
is to be used with a standard range of ammeters that have an internal resistance of 0.2?'s.
The ammeter is required to give a full scale deflection when the primary current is 800 Amps.
Calculate the maximum secondary current and secondary voltage across the ammeter.
Secondary Current:


(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans56.gif)


Voltage across Ammeter:

(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans57.gif)

We can see above that since the secondary of the current transformer is connected across
the ammeter, which has a very small resistance, the voltage drop across the secondary winding
is only 1.0 volts at full primary current. If the ammeter is removed, the secondary winding
becomes open-circuited and the transformer acts as a step-up transformer resulting in
a very high voltage equal to the ratio of:  Vp(Ns/Np) being developed across the secondary winding.
So for example, assume our current transformer from above is connected to a 480 volt
three-phase power line. Therefore:


(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans58.gif)



This is why a current transformer should never be open-circuited or operated with no-load attached
when the main primary current is flowing. If the ammeter is to be removed, a short-circuit
should be placed across the secondary terminals first. This is because when the secondary
is open-circuited the iron core of the transformer operates at a high degree of saturation,
which produces an abnormally large secondary voltage, and in our simple example above,
this was calculated at 76.8kV!.
This high secondary voltage could damage the insulation or cause electric shock if the CT's terminals
are accidentally touched.

Another Diagram showing the Primary Conductor acting as a single primary turn in the CT
Transformer Configuration.

(http://sound.westhost.com/xfmr17-2.gif)


Now if we apply the "Right hand rule" to find out north and south with regard to flow,
by wrapping our fingers around the Earth (Little version..  :)  ) with our thumb pointing to North,
then our fingers will indicate the direction of Rotation of the Hot Stuff in the Planet.
And BINGO !
The Earth does turn the Correct way to produce the North Pole in the Correct Hemisphere...   :)


But here we are referring to the "Secondary" Rotation as theses toroids are also rotating
in the same direction of the planet at the same time.


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Manoderecha.svg/407px-Manoderecha.svg.png)



The right-hand rule as applied to motion produced with screw threads

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Right-hand_grip_rule.svg/350px-Right-hand_grip_rule.svg.png)

My next post will deal with Errors involving the mapping of the Interior of the Earth and why
we make wrong assumptions regarding the internal makeup of our planet.


supposedly, the secret of the tetragrammaton is a four poled magnet and nassim haramein mentions the ark of the covenant is an anti-gravity unified theory of mattern/energy/consciousness.

My research videos:

Tetragrammaton Ark Technology and Ancient Languages of Light
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etkk0GdxAhY

Sacred Sciences Tree of Life Vector Equilibrium
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44wU8H7zBNM

Sacred Sciences Tree of Life Vector Equilibrium Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7myhoK-58HM



Nassim Haramein's video:

YHWH Tetragrammaton A Gravity Generator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJB_o516Y8g
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: deuem on January 07, 2014, 06:24:12 pm
Hello Lt_bear13 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=998)  and welcome to Pegasus, I see you have 4 U Tube vids posted above that look like yours?
When ever you feel ready you should open a thread of your own and discuss them [maybe a thread for each one] For myself, I am sitting behind the China white wall for now and UTube is banned. So a few frames would help out for the talk. There are also a couple other members in other countries that can't get to UT either. The titles look interesting and I look forward to seeing what you have to say.
 
Deuem
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on January 07, 2014, 08:39:28 pm
Ah the Great Wall...   :)

Was there a couple of weeks ago at a little place called Badaling...

Here are a couple photos I took...

The "Gate" in Badaling, just out from Beijing....


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/GWC_Smaller_version_02_.jpg)


And from a "Tower" in the Great Wall...


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/GWC_Smaller_version_01_.jpg)



And a Gate to a shop in the Museum in Badaling..


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/GWC_Smaller_version_03_.jpg)


Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: Lt_bear13 on January 08, 2014, 09:16:07 am
Lets see what is going on in the Liquid or gooey core. The inner part Believed (Assumed) to be solid,
we will look at later, but for now lets say the whole interior is Liquid and for now NO solid core exists.

Don't worry Deuem,   :)   all shall be explained regarding the interpretation of a Solid Core Believed
(Assumed) to exist !

Here is an example of a fluid Flywheel found in the Automatic transmission of a car or truck or other transport.

The Fluid Flywheell:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Fluid_flywheel%2C_part_section_%28Autocar_Handbook%2C_13th_ed%2C_1935%29.jpg/597px-Fluid_flywheel%2C_part_section_%28Autocar_Handbook%2C_13th_ed%2C_1935%29.jpg)



I have drawn a diagram showing the Flow of oil which completes the Coupling between the Driving
and Driven Components.

The Blue Component on the Left is the "Input" Component. The Red Component on the right
is the "Driven" Component.

The arrows show the direction of oil Flow when the Input Component on the Left is Rotated.

This flow behaviour is determined obviously by the architecture of the Mechanism.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/Fluid_Flywheel_01.jpg)


But if we rotate a Sphere containing fluid which is influenced by its rotation. (using sticky fluid)
we get a flow in the liquid something like this, shown here in a drawing representing the Earth.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/The_Earth_as_a_fFuid_Flywheel_01.jpg)


Now according to Scientist from the Earth is claimed Quote;

Interesting... ? ? ?    :)

Remember this as I go on to explain !


So 2 Toroid type electromagnetic ring systems are produced as a result.
Remembering we are looking at molten conductive rock like in a plasma form due to
its high temperature and the enormous pressure this rock is being subjected to.
Its NOT you normal rock found in your back yard...    :)



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/Toroid_01.jpg)


So lets take a look at the Theory regarding Toroidal magnetic fields regarding this.

Here is a bright young technician, who is familiar with mathematics...

Nothing wrong with his Math....   :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCSHcftPAIM[/youtube]

Now remember his Conclusions...

As I said nothing wrong with the Math itself....   :) I suspect he was a good student..

But now lets take a look at what we call "CT Transformers" and see if this Technicians Conclusions
were/are in fact Correct. ? ? ?


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/Stromwandler_Zeichnung.svg/625px-Stromwandler_Zeichnung.svg.png)



(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Leistungsschalter-110KV.jpg/220px-Leistungsschalter-110KV.jpg)



Like any other transformer, a current transformer has a primary winding, a magnetic core
and a secondary winding. The alternating current flowing in the primary produces
an alternating magnetic field in the core, which then induces an alternating current
in the secondary winding circuit.
An essential objective of current transformer design is to ensure that the primary and secondary
circuits are efficiently coupled, so that the secondary current bears an accurate relationship
to the primary current.

The most common design of CT consists of a length of wire wrapped many times around
a silicon steel ring passed 'around' the circuit being measured. The CT's primary circuit
therefore consists of a single 'turn' of conductor, with a secondary of many tens or hundreds of turns.
The primary winding may be a permanent part of the current transformer, with a heavy copper bar
to carry current through the magnetic core.

Window-type current transformers (aka zero sequence current transformers, or ZSCT)
are also common, which can have circuit cables run through the middle of an opening in the core
to provide a single-turn primary winding. When conductors passing through a CT are not centered
in the circular (or oval) opening, slight inaccuracies may occur.
Shapes and sizes can vary depending on the end user or switchgear manufacturer.
Typical examples of low voltage single ratio metering current transformers are either ring type
or plastic moulded case.

High-voltage current transformers are mounted on porcelain bushings to insulate them from ground.
Some CT configurations slip around the bushing of a high-voltage transformer or circuit breaker,
which automatically centers the conductor inside the CT window.

The primary circuit is largely unaffected by the insertion of the CT. The rated secondary current
is commonly standardized at 1 or 5 amperes. For example, a 4000:5 CT would provide
an output current of 5 amperes when the primary was passing 4000 amperes.

The secondary winding can be single ratio or multi-ratio, with five taps being common for multi-ratio
CTs.
The load, or burden, of the CT should be of low resistance. If the voltage time integral area
is higher than the core's design rating, the core goes into saturation towards the end of each cycle,
distorting the waveform and affecting accuracy.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/CurrentTransformers.jpg/220px-CurrentTransformers.jpg)


and

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Clampmeter.jpg/120px-Clampmeter.jpg)


Which does NOT appear reinforce this “Theory” according to this technician !

Referring to the Youtube video above in this Post....   :)

Something is amiss here...

The technician here, falls into the trap of NOT understanding Basic Dynamics
involving Centrifugal force... a very common error made by many.

More about these errors in Somamech's Thread "A Very Simple Spinning Wheel at Low RPM"
in my forums, which I will be adding to.


http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/current-transformer.html

Toroidal current transformers – These do not contain a primary winding. Instead, the line that carries
the current flowing in the network is threaded through a window or hole in the toroidal transformer.
Some current transformers have a "split core" which allows it to be opened, installed, and closed,
without disconnecting the circuit to which they are attached.


Bar-type current transformers – This type of current transformer uses the actual cable or bus-bar
of the main circuit as the primary winding, which is equivalent to a single turn.
They are fully insulated from the high operating voltage of the system and are usually bolted to
the current carrying device.

Current transformers can reduce or "step-down" current levels from thousands of amperes down
to a standard output of a known ratio to either 5 Amps or 1 Amp for normal operation.
Thus, small and accurate instruments and control devices can be used with CT's because they are
insulated away from any high-voltage power lines.
There are a variety of metering applications and uses for current transformers such as with wattmeter's,
power factor meters, watt-hour meters, protective relays, or as trip coils in magnetic circuit breakers,
or MCB's.


(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans53.gif)



Just a little bit of Trivia;
I was a Production Manager, many years ago in a Transformer Manufacturing Plant Manufacturing
Transformers of all sorts of sizes and shapes, including the Manufacture of HV Transformers etc.
for Major Power Stations.... 

I guess Magnetic Induction coupling exists after all in Toroids, or these CT Transformers couldn't work ?
The Fact is, they do work.... and are used in many applications.

So as is the case in Transformers, the Phenomena is also Bi-Directional....

Generally current transformers and ammeters are used together as a matched pair in which
the design of the current transformer is such as to provide a maximum secondary current corresponding
to a full-scale deflection on the ammeter.

In most current transformers an approximate inverse turns ratio exists between the two currents
in the primary and secondary windings. This is why calibration of the CT is generally for
a specific type of ammeter.
For most current transformers the primary and secondary currents are expressed as a ratio such as 100/5.
This means that when 100 Amps is flowing in the primary winding it will result in 5 Amps flowing
in the secondary winding. By increasing the number of secondary windings, N2, the secondary current
can be made much smaller than the current in the primary circuit being measured.
In other words, as N2 increases, I2 goes down by a proportional amount.
We know from our tutorial on double wound transformers that its turns ratio is equal to:

(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans54.gif)

from which we get:

(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans55.gif)

As the primary usually consists of one or two turns whilst the secondary can have several
hundred turns, the ratio between the primary and secondary can be quite large. For example,
assume that the current rating of the primary winding is 100A.

The secondary winding has the standard rating of 5A. Then the ratio between the primary
and the secondary currents is 100A-to-5A, or 20:1. In other words, the primary current
is 20 times greater than the secondary current.
It should be noted however, that a current transformer rated as 100/5 is not the same as one
rated as 20/1 or subdivisions of 100/5. This is because the ratio of 100/5 expresses
the "input/output current rating" and not the actual ratio of the primary to the secondary currents.
Also note that the number of turns and the current in the primary and secondary windings are related
by an inverse proportion.
But relatively large changes in a current transformers turns ratio can be achieved by modifying
the primary turns through the CT's window where one primary turn is equal to one pass and more
than one pass through the window results in the electrical ratio beng modified.
So for example, a current transformer with a relationship of say, 300/5A can be converted to another
of 150/5A or even 100/5A by passing the main primary conductor through its interior window two
or three times as shown. This allows a higher value current transformer to provide the maximum
output current for the ammeter when used on smaller primary current lines.
Current Transformer Primary Turns Ratio


(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans55a.gif)


Example No1
A bar-type current transformer which has 1 turn on its primary and 160 turns on its secondary
is to be used with a standard range of ammeters that have an internal resistance of 0.2?'s.
The ammeter is required to give a full scale deflection when the primary current is 800 Amps.
Calculate the maximum secondary current and secondary voltage across the ammeter.
Secondary Current:


(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans56.gif)


Voltage across Ammeter:

(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans57.gif)

We can see above that since the secondary of the current transformer is connected across
the ammeter, which has a very small resistance, the voltage drop across the secondary winding
is only 1.0 volts at full primary current. If the ammeter is removed, the secondary winding
becomes open-circuited and the transformer acts as a step-up transformer resulting in
a very high voltage equal to the ratio of:  Vp(Ns/Np) being developed across the secondary winding.
So for example, assume our current transformer from above is connected to a 480 volt
three-phase power line. Therefore:


(http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/trans58.gif)



This is why a current transformer should never be open-circuited or operated with no-load attached
when the main primary current is flowing. If the ammeter is to be removed, a short-circuit
should be placed across the secondary terminals first. This is because when the secondary
is open-circuited the iron core of the transformer operates at a high degree of saturation,
which produces an abnormally large secondary voltage, and in our simple example above,
this was calculated at 76.8kV!.
This high secondary voltage could damage the insulation or cause electric shock if the CT's terminals
are accidentally touched.

Another Diagram showing the Primary Conductor acting as a single primary turn in the CT
Transformer Configuration.

(http://sound.westhost.com/xfmr17-2.gif)


Now if we apply the "Right hand rule" to find out north and south with regard to flow,
by wrapping our fingers around the Earth (Little version..  :)  ) with our thumb pointing to North,
then our fingers will indicate the direction of Rotation of the Hot Stuff in the Planet.
And BINGO !
The Earth does turn the Correct way to produce the North Pole in the Correct Hemisphere...   :)


But here we are referring to the "Secondary" Rotation as theses toroids are also rotating
in the same direction of the planet at the same time.


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Manoderecha.svg/407px-Manoderecha.svg.png)



The right-hand rule as applied to motion produced with screw threads

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Right-hand_grip_rule.svg/350px-Right-hand_grip_rule.svg.png)

My next post will deal with Errors involving the mapping of the Interior of the Earth and why
we make wrong assumptions regarding the internal makeup of our planet.

Hey matrix traveler, you're post about the four polar magnet reminded me of research on the tetagrammaton which is described as a quadrupole magnet/vortex. I made this video on it

Sacred Languages Correlated And Vortex Portals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftkc-9RhkaQ&feature=youtu.be

Sacred languages of hebrew/hibaru, chinese, sanskrit,
and arabic all correlating with a symbolic archetype/fusion
of physics, energy, matter, consciousness as a harmonic
light language seem to prove that these languages and
ancient technologies stem from a fundamental
understanding of the workings of the universe. From the
Teotihuacan and Great pyramid lay out reflecting sacred
geometry and music of the spheres, to the
tetragrammaton vortex, the ancients knew of the
vector equilibrium and its unified theory qualities
connecting microcosm to macrocosm, a repeating
pattern based on light. Understanding of this ancient
knowledge will most likely unlock wormhole travel,
unlimited energy, and the ability to synthesize any
molecule artificially.

This is mostly a preview, the next video has a lot more research and information that goes into more detail.

Videos:

Amazing UFO opening Stargate Portal in the Sky (Norwegian Spiral Anomaly)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJnfTAs4BtM

3 Different Spiral Ufo (best Norway footage!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiUQXCl3JIs

Hidden Magnetic Portals Around Earth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J295HuEwj0Y

Free Energy Bosnian Pyramids - Exotic Energy Generation - ICBP 2011 - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky4h0wrtb9Y

Music:

Headwaters by Azonic
Title: Re: Mars Super Volcanoes... Atmosphere came from gasses released by Volcanoes ?
Post by: Lt_bear13 on January 08, 2014, 09:17:53 am
Hello Lt_bear13 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=998)  and welcome to Pegasus, I see you have 4 U Tube vids posted above that look like yours?
When ever you feel ready you should open a thread of your own and discuss them [maybe a thread for each one] For myself, I am sitting behind the China white wall for now and UTube is banned. So a few frames would help out for the talk. There are also a couple other members in other countries that can't get to UT either. The titles look interesting and I look forward to seeing what you have to say.
 
Deuem


Thanks, that is a good idea. I will do that eventually for each seperate video with images, I post my research on facebook as well I could just take it off there.