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If it's Monday it's Red Beans and Rice
« on: June 27, 2017, 01:53:20 pm »
Unfortunately I didn't take a photo but this is what it looked like.


I use these red beans: soaked over night in water



bring to a boil and add onion, parsley and this sausage..



once to a boil, put the fire on low and let cook about 2-2 1/2 hours or until it smothers down, stirring occasionally.

Serve over rice....

Yes on Monday's this is what I cook.....




 
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Re: If it's Monday it's Red Beans and Rice
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2017, 02:07:31 pm »
The Guild needs a Camp Cook :P You available first week of October? :P

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Re: If it's Monday it's Red Beans and Rice
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2017, 02:24:21 pm »
Unfortunately I didn't take a photo but this is what it looked like.


It seems pretty delicious Sarge!!!

In my country we have a variation of it.

This is what it looks like



The difference is the black beans and some more meat. I think you call it bean stew.

a recipe: http://allrecipes.com/recipe/139208/feijoada-brazilian-black-bean-stew/

(Edited to post some lines it cut off when i first posted.)
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Re: If it's Monday it's Red Beans and Rice
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2017, 02:36:57 pm »

ok sarge 
you now have me  hummin this song..you got any poke salad  stories?



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Re: If it's Monday it's Red Beans and Rice
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2017, 02:51:29 pm »
I can't quite make out the label on the sausage.  What variety is it? 

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Re: If it's Monday it's Red Beans and Rice
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2017, 02:53:17 pm »
I can't quite make out the label on the sausage.  What variety is it? 

Shasta

Hickory smoked sausage... Brand name CONECUH...(but any will do)....
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Re: If it's Monday it's Red Beans and Rice
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2017, 02:56:18 pm »
ok sarge 
you now have me  hummin this song..you got any poke salad  stories?




Ok, I'm born and bred in South Louisiana, but until this song came out, I'd never heard of 'Poke Salad'....must be from the 'North' as in North Louisiana..... ;D

Cajun land is not the same as North Louisiana...
Whole different culture....It's not creole either....
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Re: If it's Monday it's Red Beans and Rice
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2017, 04:24:31 pm »
Ok, I'm born and bred in South Louisiana, but until this song came out, I'd never heard of 'Poke Salad'....must be from the 'North' as in North Louisiana..... ;D

Cajun land is not the same as North Louisiana...
Whole different culture....It's not creole either....
Poke salad is from the deep south, georgia, alabama, mississippi, tennesse and the carolinas  8)
 but it is one of the plants that you have to know how to pick it and how to prepare it, because it is actually a toxin but if cooked properly it is not much different than collards turnip greens or kale

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Re: If it's Monday it's Red Beans and Rice
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2017, 10:10:10 pm »
Hickory smoked sausage... Brand name CONECUH...(but any will do)....

Thank you.  I don't know if I've ever seen hickory smoked sausage in Denver.  I will have to look for it.  I see chorizo and Italian sausage all the time, but we don't really get a lot of southern influence around here.

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Re: If it's Monday it's Red Beans and Rice
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2017, 02:07:05 pm »


holy new knowledge Seeker.. i just had to go look it up
we used to call it ink berries and toss them at each other as kids.. kinda the old original paintball .. cause the stain had to ware off..



here's more if anyone is interested
all parts are toxic  and when a green is eaten raw it is called salad but when a green is cooked it is called sallet


https://delishably.com/vegetable-dishes/Poke-Sallet-Poke-Salad-Recipe-How-to-Handle-Harvest-and-Prepare-the-Poisonous-Pokeweed

The cooked version of this weed is properly referred to as "poke sallet," but many are not in tune with the proper pronunciation, so it is not uncommon to hear it referred to as "poke salad." You might also see it spelled "polk salad" or "polk sallet." The "polk" spelling was popularized by a 1968 country/pop song by Tony Joe White called "Polk Salad Annie." For us Southerners, the word "sallet" refers to a mess of greens cooked until tender. For example, cooked spinach could be referred to as a sallet, but raw spinach would be called a salad. This is important because, for reasons that will be made clear to you later, pokeweed should never be eaten raw.

In this article, I will give you an overview of the dangers of this weed, how and when one might harvest it in relative safety, and then detail a popular way to prepare this dish in a true Southern fashion (in that order).






hey Shasta  check this out  lots of brands - i'm sure  youi can find at least one in your area
https://www.google.com/#q=smoked+sausage

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Re: If it's Monday it's Red Beans and Rice
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2018, 11:20:10 am »
and today we have a whole article on  it...


https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodculture/how-did-this-poisonous-plant-become-one-of-the-american-souths-most-long-standing-staples/ar-BBIMqRM?li=BBnb7Kz

How Did This Poisonous Plant Become One of the American South's Most Long-Standing Staples?
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The plant's inherent toxicity hasn't deterred those who swear by its delicious flavor and purported medicinal properties.

Recently, while visiting me in Brooklyn, my mom’s eyes went twinkly as she noticed all the wild pokeweed growing around the neighborhood. A woolgathering reminiscence of her childhood in Texas spilled forth: cooking and eating the onion-infused greens straight from the pan; her stoic anticipation as her mother added vinegar to the last dregs of poke-broth, knocking it back like a shot of whiskey.

She was surprised to find that my New England–bred boyfriend had never heard of the poisonous, towering perennial weed, with its oblong leaves and magenta berries and stalks. Despite the fact that the kudzu-like Phytolacca americana sprouts up all across North America, poke sallet, a dish made from the plant’s slightly-less-toxic leaves, is a regional thing, popular only to Appalachia and the American South. The leaves must be boiled in water three times to cook out their toxins, and, as aficionados will tell you, it’s well worth the extra effort.

But if pokeweed is so toxic, why did people start eating it in the first place? In a word, poke sallet is survival food.

According to Michael Twitty, historian, author, and Southern food expert, poke sallet was originally eaten for pure practicality—its toxins made it an allegedly potent tonic. “Back in the old days, you had a lot of people who walked around barefoot,” Twitty said. “They walked around barefoot in animal feces all the time. Most of our ancestors from the Depression backwards were full of worms.” So then, poke sallet acted as a vermifuge, a worm purger.

Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center cites research showing that raw pokeweed has medicinal properties that can help cure herpes and HIV. That said, there are no clinical trials that support the use of the cooked dish as such, or as any kind of medicine, but its devotees swear by its curative qualities. Pokeweed remains a popular folk medicine, but it hasn’t been widely studied, so its healing properties remain, officially, purported.

This isn’t food that’s cooked as a dare or to be showy, like say, Japanese fugu, one of the world’s most poisonous fish, now served at Michelin-starred Suzuki in New York City. According to Nicole Taylor, chef and author of The Up South Cookbook, poke sallet is a stretch food, and it happened to be the first fresh vegetable to rise from the ground in the earliest days of spring. “When you look at foraging, that’s only what they call it now. People who were poor and people who were formerly enslaved—they had to figure out what to cook, and what to eat. You can trace different wild foods back to those folks. People who are looking for food to get by are more likely to eat poke sallet than someone who had means to eat other things."

Though mostly obscure to the mainstream, poke sallet, which is sometimes referenced as “polk salad” or “poke salet,” has occasionally dipped its toe into the pop culture pool. Most notably, in the lyrics of “Polk Salad Annie,” by Tony Joe White, released in 1968: “Everyday for supper time / she'd go down by the truck patch / And pick her a mess of polk salad / and carry it home in a tow sack.” The song about a rural Southern girl and her family peaked at Number 8 on the Billboard Top 100 in 1969, and was later remade by Elvis in 1970, and put into regular rotation at his live shows. Country legend Dolly Parton even mentioned in her memoir that she would use crushed poke berries for lipstick as an adolescent, since her parents forbade her from wearing makeup.



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Handling pokeweed is no joke. Twitty remembers messing with poke berries as a youngster, and the aching in his juice-stained hands that ensued. Using pokeweed in the kitchen requires caution—it can easily get you sick, with symptoms like vomiting, diarrhea, convulsions, and rapid heartbeat . Twitty says everyone he’s met with a connection to poke sallet says the same exact thing about it: “It will clean you out from the top of your head to the bottom of your feet.”

Yet the threat that pokeweed consumption can cause death appears to be rare. New Hampshire’s recently retired state medical examiner, Dr. Thomas Andrew, told the Concord Monitor of only one deadly incident occurring during his 20-year career. A young landscaper supposedly took a bite of raw pokeweed, mistaking it for a wild parsnip, and died 45 minutes later. One passionate pokeweed detractor, Jean Weese, a professor and food safety specialist at Auburn University, cautions strongly against consuming any amount of pokeweed, cooked or uncooked. Over email, she said she hasn’t heard of anyone dying from ingesting it, but she’s received many messages over the years from people claiming serious illness.

Foraging’s resurgence, and popularity with a set that may enjoy, say, kombucha on tap and artisanal poutine, means poke sallet is being introduced to a new cohort of eaters—who may have little to no connection to the dish’s history as a survival food. In New York City, you can even learn to track down pokeweed in its prime (when it’s young and green, before it sprouts its noxious, calling-card berries and magenta stems) with a trained expert like Leda Meredith, author of “The Forager’s Feast: How to Identify, Gather, and Prepare Wild Edibles."

Even so, it’s scarcely found on restaurant menus across the U.S., a contrast to other co-opted survival foods like okra, polenta, and grits that now proliferate on menus hawking “elevated southern fare.” Though people have been eating meticulously prepared pokeweed for centuries in the U.S. (and even longer in Africa, where the Phytolacca species is also native), the liability of accidentally poisoning a patron is not a risk many chefs are likely to take, to speak nothing of the labor-intensive task of gathering and processing the leaves.

But such chefs do exist. There are a few exceptions who delight in the greens, with their subtle, hard-to-pin-down, vaguely asparagus-meets-spinach flavor, and they serve it on their menus as both a means to educate people about regional foodways and delicious vegetable in its own right. There’s Winston Blick, a Baltimore-area chef who played around with poke sallet on the menu at his now shuttered restaurant, Clementine (according to City Paper ), and Chef-owner Clark Barlowe, of Heirloom Restaurant in Charlotte, NC, who grew up eating the dish. It’s appeared on his all-local, Appalachian-only menu in many iterations over the years—blanched with popped sorghum or black walnuts and peanuts, grilled, and dressed with a house-made vinegar.

Sheri Castle, a Chapel Hill-based produce expert, said she wouldn’t be surprised to hear of finding pokeweed at a place like the Union Square Farmers Market, but could only list one chef she knew of (Barlowe) who cooks with it. Taylor said it’s definitely not something she’d expect to see at a farmers market, and laughed when asked about who might be eating it these days, saying, “I think people who are eating it now are definitely not young people.” At the many poke sallet–themed festivals that take place across the region each year (like the Harlan County Poke Sallet Festival in Kentucky), you’d be hard pressed to find a plate of the mess. Poke sallet is merely a totem.

Will pokeweed soon find itself hailed as a beloved “it-green”? Probably not. But it’s not so far-fetched to think that on my mom’s next early spring visit, she might be able to dine on her favorite dish without having to gather the poke leaves and prepare them herself. Like Castle told me, “If you want to save a food, you have to eat it. I really believe that. If the last person who ever has a taste memory of something is gone, then we have lost our baseline.”

Related video: How to Make Southern Tomato Pie


look at the red stems in the pic.. nature always gives you a warning
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Re: If it's Monday it's Red Beans and Rice
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2018, 01:46:52 pm »
Got the ingredients for red beans and rice.  Trying it in the slow cooker tomorrow.  It can cook while I sleep.  Night shift tonight and tomorrow.  :P
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Re: If it's Monday it's Red Beans and Rice
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2018, 02:11:56 pm »
Never tried it in a slow cooker. I guess that’s a substitue for soaking the beans in water over night. Let me know how it comes out.
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Re: If it's Monday it's Red Beans and Rice
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2018, 08:33:31 pm »
It turned out pretty good.  I did soak the beans overnight.  Beyond that, I put everything  in the slow cooker, and set to High, for six hours.  My only mistake  was adding too much water, so it was a little thinner than it should have been.  It was tasty.
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Re: If it's Monday it's Red Beans and Rice
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2018, 11:11:12 pm »
https://youtu.be/3bPBCoRP5Lw?t=2m28s

This video outlines a baked bean recipe that I've been willing to try for some time, but haven't committed to completely due to both nutritional concerns and a lack of the requisite equipment.  We have an oven, but not a bbq or smoker.  Still, I am confident that it would taste incredible, whether or not it also led to a reduction in life expectancy.  This is a recipe that needs to be tried before the Muslims take over, because it is the very definition of haraam.
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