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Re: Crater Chains
« Reply #180 on: September 18, 2016, 04:39:29 PM »
An electrical arc follows the shortest route between the its source and its destination, so it's usually perpendicular to the surface of the target, but I have yet to see something that looks really like the result of an electrical arc.

Perhaps a very high electrical charge would cause an explosion a lot like those fire crackers?

ETA: I agree that Phobos seems unlikely to have been rotating quickly enough to create that effect...
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Re: Crater Chains
« Reply #181 on: September 18, 2016, 05:06:58 PM »
Perhaps a very high electrical charge would cause an explosion a lot like those fire crackers?
Have you ever used an electrical arc soldering machine? I have never used one on sand but in metal it makes completely different markings.

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Re: Crater Chains
« Reply #182 on: September 18, 2016, 06:02:24 PM »
Have you ever used an electrical arc soldering machine? I have never used one on sand but in metal it makes completely different markings.
I have watched on metal and it looks diffferent to the ones on Phobos.

This paper might interest you.

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Polygonal craters in the form of regular hexagons, as seen on planetary surfaces e.g. Mars, Venus and Mercury, and also on Earth’s moon and other planetary satellites, are considered to be the result of impacts by meteoritic bodies (meteorites or asteroids). Other large craters on Earth, usually described as ‘roughly circular’ or ‘lozenge shaped’ are also considered to be the result of such impacts. This paper will show that many of these craters are in fact polygonal in the form of octagons and that, by assembling a conceptual model of a lightning bolt, will demonstrate that both the underlying formation processes of a lightning bolt and its internal dynamic relationships are directly reflected in the resultant morphologies of these two specific and distinct types of polygonal crater; thus proving that they are the direct result of single lightning strikes.
POLYGONAL CRATER FORMATION BY ELECTRICAL DISCHARGES (page 158 in the pdf)

Around page 163 the author shows some polygonal examples and how difficult they are to recognise.

He also says, later in the abstract, "The model will also be used to show that lightning bolts are responsible not only for the formation of all meteorites, regardless of their origin, but also for the high levels of iridium found in meteorites and at the K-T boundary; thus refuting impact theory in general and the Alvarez Hypothesis in particular."




REF: New Concepts in Global Tectonics Journal, V. 3, No. 2, June 2015.
www.ncgt.org
POLYGONAL CRATER FORMATION BY ELECTRICAL DISCHARGES
Wayne BURN
(In case the paper disappears off the web)

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Re: Crater Chains
« Reply #183 on: September 18, 2016, 06:09:49 PM »
I'll make this the last one for now...  :-\


http://strangesounds.org/2014/07/lightning-digs-mysterious-crater-on-daytona-beach-july-22-2014-photo.html

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Re: Crater Chains
« Reply #184 on: September 19, 2016, 07:11:31 AM »
Since this has become some sort of SIDE discussion by a moderator and a administrator about craters in general and NOT about the unique qualities of such Concise and Systematic Crater Chains, , , , ,

What I would really like to know, , , ,

Why are these small moons, asteroids and such STILL IN ORBITS ? ?

By all rights they should be flying all over our solar system from these craters that we see on them ! ! ! !
(The pool table analogy.)

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« Reply #185 on: September 19, 2016, 07:17:50 AM »
ArMaP,

Yes I do still look for truth, just not about things I already know the TRUTH about, , , ,  ;D
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Re: Crater Chains
« Reply #186 on: September 19, 2016, 07:20:34 AM »
Since this has become some sort of SIDE discussion by a moderator and a administrator about craters in general and NOT about the unique qualities of such Concise and Systematic Crater Chains, , , , ,
I suggested the splitting the thread but we thought it better to leave it as are discussing crater formation which is surely massively important to crater chains.

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Why are these small moons, asteroids and such STILL IN ORBITS ? ?

By all rights they should be flying all over our solar system from these craters that we se on them ! ! ! !
If they were flying all over the solar system they may have been originally been stray asteroids captured into the orbit of the planets.  That is one theory about the origin of Phobos.  The same effect is used to put a travelling spacecraft into orbit around a planet (e.g. voyager did this to orbit then study Jupiter).

What do you think about the crater chain like impressions formed by the guys in this video.


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Re: Crater Chains
« Reply #187 on: September 19, 2016, 07:30:36 AM »
, , , , , uh huh, , just ignore all the calculations and rocket breaking actions to achieve orbital capture, , , ,

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Re: Crater Chains
« Reply #188 on: September 19, 2016, 07:38:25 AM »
, , , , , uh huh, , just ignore all the calculations and rocket breaking actions to achieve orbital capture, , , ,
If there was many thousands of stray objects moving around the solar system after say, for the sake of argument, a catastrophic planet break up then I don't think there is anything unreasonable about the theory.  Some objects would exit the solar system, some would find a stable orbit around the sun (becoming asteroids), some would hit planets or the Sun, and perhaps the odd one would pass a planet at exactly the right velocity and distance to enter a stable orbit and become a moon.

It's obvious most did not become moons so it would be a rare event.  I can't see any reason why that is not possible.

ETA: Apparently Phobos may be composed of materials like D-Type Asteroids, PHOBOS AS A D-TYPE CAPTURED ASTEROID, SPECTRAL MODELING

Alternatively, analysis of the Planetary Fourier Spectrometer data from Mars Express also points towards in situ formation but does not rule out the possibility that Phobos is a captured achondrite-like meteor.
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Re: Crater Chains
« Reply #189 on: September 19, 2016, 12:01:27 PM »
Seems to be no plausible explanation for craterchains, where or in what way we think it will come the answer to extraterrestrial life ... maybe the answer is right under the noses ... but we already know and the Empire does not interested.
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« Reply #191 on: July 16, 2017, 01:21:23 AM »
Your highest level of ingnorancia is when you reject something you know nothing about ...

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Re: Crater Chains
« Reply #192 on: July 16, 2017, 03:19:53 AM »
Looking at the top of the "chain" and at other features in the area I think those craters may be more like holes on a lava tunnel.

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Re: Crater Chains
« Reply #193 on: July 16, 2017, 03:36:34 AM »
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They are in a chain on the volcanic plains and have a somewhat sinuous outline, so it is tempting to assume that they are some kind of volcanic feature, maybe collapse pits over a subsurface lava tube.
From the blog at the above link; collapsed lave tubes does seem plausible  8)

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