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Re: replacement is close, humans
« Reply #45 on: July 04, 2017, 04:33:05 pm »
It's actually medical terminology.
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Re: replacement is close, humans
« Reply #46 on: July 17, 2017, 11:15:05 am »


http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/elon-musk-artificial-intelligence-is-the-biggest-risk-that-we-face-as-a-civilization/ar-BBEvYdB

Elon Musk: Artificial Intelligence Is the Biggest Risk That We Face as a Civilization
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PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- Artificial intelligence the "biggest risk that we face as a civilization" Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk said Saturday, speaking to state leaders on the last day of the National Governors Association summer meeting.

The business magnate participated in a question and answer session with Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval, the incoming chair of the National Governors Association, whose initiative explores how state leaders can prepare for and benefit from innovative technologies.

Musk made his stance clear that governors must address artificial intelligence proactively, or it will be too late. Without proper regulations in place, he warned, industries will become completely autonomous, posing a threat not only to jobs but to the nation's safety. He said the government "doesn't have insight" into AI yet but, when they do, "I think people will be very afraid, as they should be."
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Responding to Musk's somber warnings, the governors were eager for advice on how to defend their states.

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Re: replacement is close, humans
« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2017, 03:14:23 pm »
An Advanced AI Has Been Deployed to Fight Against Hackers

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It takes a truly massive network of hundreds of thousands of computers to help scientists around the world unravel the mysteries of the Universe, which is the purpose of the CERN grid (CERN stands for Conseil Européen pour la Recherche Nucléaire, in English, the European Laboratory for Particle Physics). Naturally, however, particle physicists aren’t the only ones who want to access that kind of computing power. Hackers are also interested in CERN’s grid, and CERN scientists are skipping past standard cybersecurity measures and deploying artificial intelligence (AI) to stay protected.

It is the job of any cybersecurity effort to detect unusual activity and identify possible threats. Of course, systems can look for known code worms and viruses, but malware changes too fast for humans to keep up with it. This is where AI and machine learning comes in. CERN scientists are teaching their AI system to distinguish between safe and threatening behavior on the network and take action when it detects a problem.

https://futurism.com/an-advanced-ai-has-been-deployed-to-fight-against-hackers/

It is more than likely that if the "Machine Learning" process involves tracing and countermeasures we could see a scenario of cyber warfare conducted all on it's own. Hackers are probably already also jumping on the machine learning AI bandwagon.

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Re: replacement is close, humans
« Reply #48 on: August 21, 2017, 02:42:40 am »

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Re: replacement is close, humans
« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2017, 03:37:21 am »
This in the news today - http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/20/politics/havana-sonic-attacks/index.html :-\
Fans, if you would, a 40-50 word synopsis about these posts would be appreciated, and preferably a new thread covering this subject matter, for this article really doesn't  have much to do with the replacement of meatsuit humans by cyborgs or robotic entities...

plus it is on CNN

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Re: replacement is close, humans
« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2017, 06:00:20 am »
I hear you Seeker, apologies for posting on the wrong thread -

It was very widely reported Globally -

https://www.bing.com/search?q=us+and+canada+diplomats+attacked+by+microwave+weapon+in+cuba&mkt=en-gb&httpsmsn=1&refig=8bb325fc62184e17fb0a416be85fdb92&pq=us+and+canada+diplomats+attacked+by+microwave+weapon+in+cuba&sc=0-17&sp=-1&qs=n&sk=&first=101&FORM=POR

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No Apologies necessary  ;D Just pointing out that it deserves it's own thread, and I am sure you could make a very informative piece out of it

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Re: replacement is close, humans
« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2018, 01:23:17 pm »


ya know getting fired is bad enough but this..wow

The man who was fired by a machine
By Jane Wakefield
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https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44561838

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"It wasn't the first time my key card failed, I assumed it was time to replace it."

So began a sequence of events that saw Ibrahim Diallo fired from his job, not by his manager but by a machine.

He has detailed his story in a blogpost which he hopes will serve as a warning to firms about relying too much on automation.

"Automation can be an asset to a company, but there needs to be a way for humans to take over if the machine makes a mistake," he writes.

The story of Mr Diallo's sacking by machine began when his entry pass to the Los Angeles skyscraper where his office was based failed to work, forcing him to rely on the security guard to allow him entry.

"As soon as I got to my floor, I went to see my manager to let her know. She promised to order me a new one right away."

Then he noticed that he was logged out of his work system and a colleague told Mr Diallo that the word "Inactive" was listed alongside his name.

His day got worse. After lunch - and a 10-minute wait for a co-worker to let him back into his office - he was told by his recruiter that she had received an email saying his contract was terminated. She promised to sort out the problem.

The next day he had been locked out of every single system "except my Linux machine" and then, after lunch, two people appeared at his desk. Mr Diallo was told that an email had been received telling them to escort him from the building.

His boss was confused but helpless as Mr Diallo recalls: "I was fired. There was nothing my manager could do about it. There was nothing the director could do about it. They stood powerless as I packed my stuff and left the building."

At the time, he was eight months into a three-year contract and over the next three weeks he was copied into emails about his case.

"I watched it be escalated to bigger and more powerful titles over and over, yet no-one could do anything about it. From time-to-time, they would attach a system email.

"It was soulless and written in red as it gave orders that dictated my fate. Disable this, disable that, revoke access here, revoke access there, escort out of premises, etc.

"The system was out for blood and I was its very first victim."

It took Mr Diallo's bosses three weeks to find out why he had been sacked. His firm was going through changes, both in terms of the systems it used and the people it employed.

His original manager had been recently laid off and sent to work from home for the rest of his time at the firm and in that period he had not renewed Mr Diallo's contract in the new system.

After that, machines took over - flagging him as an ex-employee.

"All the necessary orders are sent automatically and each order completion triggers another order. For example, when the order for disabling my key card is sent, there is no way of it to be re-enabled.

"Once it is disabled, an email is sent to security about recently dismissed employees. Scanning the key card is a red flag. The order to disable my Windows account is also sent. There is also one for my Jira account. And on and on."

Although Mr Diallo was allowed back to work, he had missed out on three weeks' worth of pay and been escorted from the building "like a thief". He had to explain his disappearance to others and found his co-workers became distant.

He decided to move to another job.

His story should serve as a cautionary tale about the human-machine relationship, thinks AI expert Dave Coplin.

"It's another example of a failure of human thinking where they allow it to be humans versus machines rather than humans plus machines," he said.

"One of the fundamental skills for all humans in an AI world is accountability - just because the algorithm says it's the answer, it doesn't mean it actually is."



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Re: replacement is close, humans
« Reply #53 on: October 13, 2018, 07:14:50 pm »
yikes

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/boston-dynamics-atlas-robot-can-parkour-now-so-theres-no-where-left-to-hide_us_5bc22e51e4b01a01d68b3178
10/13/2018 05:18 pm ET
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Boston Dynamics’ Robot Can Parkour Now And Presumably Hunt Humans More Easily
The Massachusetts company’s machine Atlas is scaring people with its agility.






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With each passing month, it seems the robots get stronger, smarter and more agile.

Boston Dynamics, the Massachusetts engineering company that continues to push the boundaries of how robots can move, once again wowed and frightened the internet with the latest update on its famous two-legged robot “Atlas.”

In a 30-second video released Thursday titled “Parkour Atlas,” the company shows their pride and joy hopping over a log and then leaping onto three ascending boxes, one after another alternating between its left and right foot. The smoothness by which Atlas climbs the structure is impressive and, as many human citizens of the internet point out, scary.

The question is why is Boston Dynamics doing this? Surely, they have guaranteed themselves a cushy position in the future government cabinet of our machine overlords.

Seriously, though, the company’s bots have some exciting real-world applications ― hence why they test many of their machines outside. From heavy lifting in factories or warehouses to search and rescue operations to missions on the battlefield, these robots can potentially do things that humans can’t or shouldn’t do.

Boston Dynamics, which began as a spin-off from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, also released a video Thursday showing their four-legged robot “Spot” successfully navigating around an obstacle-heavy Tokyo construction site.

This gives me the creeps..big time




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edit.. ok i don't know why one you tube works and the others don't..sorry
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Re: replacement is close, humans
« Reply #54 on: October 14, 2018, 03:09:50 am »
edit.. ok i don't know why one you tube works and the others don't..sorry
YouTube links must have only the "v=xxxxxxxx" part, the "time_continue=2&" was messing the link. :)

As for the topic of your post, I'm not worried, as we are only being shown their successes. There's a video of that back-flip that shows a couple of failed attempts.



Also, we don't know if they are acting autonomously or being remotely controlled, like in this presentation that ended in a silly mistake. Now, who made the mistake, the man controlling the robot or the robot?



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Re: replacement is close, humans
« Reply #55 on: November 25, 2018, 12:34:45 pm »
Hey guys, I have thought about this a lot having been in IT and coding since the early days in Assembly and UNIX scripts and stuff.

I think the real 'dangers' of AI is not what you think. AI will not 'harm us' as a giant sentient hive mind. It will be in things that are 'unexpected consequences'.

For example things like getting talked into having nano-bot repair things inside your body which can be hacked like hacking a pacemaker to shock you (an example not exactly a real fear).

Another would be nano-bot swarms with facial recognition. Think about it. The swarm would have tiny amounts of some kind of 'splosive in them, a gram of something nasty, and then they'd be able to swarm up, blow a hole in a building and then after enough of them did that, look for a specific target based on facial recognition, and the land on his noggin' and then that's all she wrote. Even worse if there were 535 +1 of them, that's then end of the people in a certain city...being able to take out the entire gubmint in one unstoppable 'swarm' raid and no protection from it. These things would be the size of oh, IDK a big locust?

Hackers using AI or even the Evil Empire creating something like this (we need to convince people that doing this should NEVER be tried b/c it could be turned against you).

A sample Youtube is to be found called nano-bot swarms, but it's a fantasy video not a real TED talk.

Search on ted talk nanobot swarms

Title:
MICRO DRONES KILLER ARMS ROBOTS - AUTONOMOUS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE - WARNING !! (channel CS Consulting)

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Re: replacement is close, humans
« Reply #56 on: December 28, 2018, 09:02:36 pm »


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/ai-can-generate-fake-faces-now-here%E2%80%99s-how-to-spot-them/ar-BBRxOxJ?li=BBnb7Kz

Dave Gershgorn  5 hrs ago

AI can generate fake faces now. Here’s how to spot them

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Earlier this month, a research paper from Nvidia, maker of graphics processing units, showed that the company is able to generate photo-realistic images of people who never existed. It marked another step toward a world in which any media can be easily and believably generated from scratch, a looming crisis for truth online.

Fortunately, AI-generated faces bear some telltale signs. This week, computational artist Kyle McDonald published a guide on how to identify a fake. These tips probably won’t be reliable forever, and they’re certainly not applicable to every picture—some generated images are extraordinarily convincing. But every little bit of information helps.

The following pictures are screenshots grabbed from Nvidia’s latest paper, which Quartz previously covered by imagining how these AI people might interact on Tinder.
Asymmetrical facial features or jewelry


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The picture above has a bunch of clues. One of the easiest is the big weird blob floating off the top right of the person’s head. That kind of artifact or aberration is common in AI-generated imagery, consistent with Google’s DeepDream experiments a few years ago.

But the image is also slightly asymmetrical, when you look around the person’s ears. Not only is the hair fuzzy and strange on the right side, but the ear is missing an earring that’s present on the left side. (Or you could say that the left ear has an earring not present on the right side, as an exercise in perspective.)

Algorithms have no common sense, and no rule that if an earring is present on one side it has to be present on the other, except maybe when generating faces of boy bands from the late 90s or people who wanted to be in boy bands in the late 90s. Because of this, the algorithms sometimes don’t generate facial features or accessories as they should.
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Algorithms also don’t know the number or orientation of teeth, instead drawing on examples of teeth from all different angles. Sometimes the algorithm messes that up, leaving its creations with odd and mangled teeth.


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This might be a little more difficult to spot than a missing or disfigured earring, but if you look closely at the above image, the pictured woman has a small, third middle tooth. There’s also some weirdness around the ears, so it’s definitely a fake.

Strange clothing or backgrounds


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Patterns are sometimes a mystery for people-generating algorithms, which can lead to strange structures in the background of images, or strange clothing on the generated subject. McDonald says to especially watch out for text in the background of generated images, since it’s almost always malformed.

While the subject of the image above looks stunningly like a human, it appears to be in some sort of geometric jade prison, or perhaps Superman’s Fortress of Solitude.

Below, you can see this manifest in clothing. It just doesn’t make any sense. There’s also a strange artifact of an earring in the photo, and some of the subject’s hair isn’t actually attached to anything, which is also common, McDonald says.

Stay vigilant.



sorry about the size of the pic..i can't seem to make them smaller

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Re: replacement is close, humans
« Reply #57 on: December 28, 2018, 10:05:05 pm »
thankyou so.
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Re: replacement is close, humans
« Reply #58 on: December 28, 2018, 10:26:00 pm »
Well they ARE working hard on replacing women :P

This pretty little thing for example



Robot Brothels :P  Already opened one in Toronto but they are meeting opposition in Houston

Construction of 'Robot brothel' in Houston must clear city hurdle
By Olivia P. Tallet Updated 9:59 pm CDT, Sunday, September 30, 2018


Basklash is led by a frumpy old fat English professor :P

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https://www.chron.com/houston/article/Construction-of-Robot-brothel-in-Houston-finds-13269079.php


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Re: replacement is close, humans
« Reply #59 on: December 29, 2018, 06:38:00 pm »
just not tempting enough yet z,ill stick with the one i got.lol.

i kinda got use to menopause and smiles.
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