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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #75 on: October 12, 2017, 03:04:41 PM »
Zorgon, I suspect that you might be able to get your swords, knives, halberds, maces, shields, lances, pikes, battle-axes, dirks, and a full suit of armour in there buddy..  I mean a guy can get XXX (insert total number of weapons) without tripping any alarms..  :o :o  so it shouldn't be to much of an ask m8  :)

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #76 on: October 13, 2017, 01:14:49 PM »


1001 Roads to Mandalay... (Kipling, Freemasonry & the "1001 Club")


Shooting started about 10 PM Pacific Daylight Time - Sunday - Oct. 1, 2017

So, how is the following possible?





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"Um, excuse me for a moment here, but I have a really stupid question. I know you told me there's no such thing as a stupid question, but this one seems really stupid anyway.

The media has released photos of guns and ammo magazines laying around on the floor of the supposed "sniper's nest" hotel room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel in Las Vegas, but there's something totally wrong with these pictures:

#1) Where is all the expended brass?

#2) Where are all the carpet burns from hot brass and hot gun barrels?

#3) When seconds count, the police are only 72 minutes away... but why?

#4) I swear this is my last really stupid question, but please…

This whole scene is being called a "sniper's nest" by the entire fake news media, but I've looked and looked and I still don't see a sniper rifle anywhere. What I see are a bunch of AR-15s that fire .223 rounds (or 5.56 mm for you metric heads). Sniper rifles are bolt-action rifles, not auto-loading semi-auto rifles.

Now, I've only fired about 100,000 of these rounds myself, so I'm still a newbie, but the last time I checked, these rounds are usually about 55 grains in mass, and they lose about 75% of their kinetic energy by the time they reach a 400-yard target (the distance from the Mandalay Bay hotel to the concert lot is about 400 yards). You can see the dope yourself at Gundata.org.

On top of that, the bullet drop is 32 inches, which is of course almost three feet of bullet drop. Now, given the elevated angle of the shooter, that bullet drop wouldn't be quite as dramatic, as the coefficient of a 20 degree declination angle is, of course, 0.94. But the energy of this round at 400 yards makes it only marginally effective. It's just at the outside boundary of the effective range of a .223 cartridge, as any good Marine will tell you.

Conclusion? All these casualties couldn't possibly be caused by .223 rounds. Most likely, they were actually heavier rounds fired from something like a belt-fed AK system (7.62 x 39mm rounds), or perhaps even a belt-fed .308 automatic weapon. So where is all the brass, anyway?

Did Stephen Paddock possess magical brass that can disappear after being fired?"



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I'm a trained Navy Combat Corpsman, stationed with the Marines for 15 years and went through a war with them. I've yet to see anyone interviewed that is injured. I've seen one say he was hit in the neck and the bullet is still in his neck, and not a bandage in sight...NOT POSSIBLE!!!

Another guy says he was shot in the foot and within 24 hours, he's standing during a TV Interview...NOT POSSIBLE!!!

Another TV interview guy claims to have been shot in the head and the bullet exited 3 inches from where it went in and once again, not a single bandage in sight and even talks about having brain swelling, yet some hospital let him out...NOT POSSIBLE!!!

What people are experiencing is trauma from Crisis Actors telling them that people were shot and many killed...when the truth of it was NOBODY was injured or killed.

It was a FEMA DRILL !

Did you know about the Illuminati card called "Las Vegas"...with a Jack and an Ace on it...while Jason Aldean's logo is a Jack and an Ace, which is also tattooed on his left bicep and the Jack is valued at 10, while the Ace can be valued at "1" and it all happened on 10-1...

Coincidence? I don't think so...Jason Aldean's tour was called "They don't know"...which has been cancelled. It was a Staged Event with the Army there with moulage kits, as I trained with in combat medical school...look real, with blood and everything, yet not actual...

PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH BEFORE YOU BELIEVE ANY TV PROGRAM...it is just that...PROGRAMMING!!!




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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #77 on: October 13, 2017, 02:12:05 PM »
Shooting started about 10 PM Pacific Daylight Time - Sunday - Oct. 1, 2017

So, how is the following possible?

That date is added by Google, it's supposed to be the date of the last time the Google bot read the page.

A little test gave me this result. :)


It looks like, as with most Google things, it can't be trusted. :)

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #78 on: October 13, 2017, 04:42:05 PM »
Thank you ArMaP.
Please bear with me, but how does that explain that the story was posted 2 days before the 'event'?
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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #79 on: October 13, 2017, 04:53:11 PM »
Thank you ArMaP.
Please bear with me, but how does that explain that the story was posted 2 days before the 'event'?
The story wasn't posted 2 days before, the same way that story on the image I posted (about today's Trump speech about the Iran deal) wasn't posted 3 days ago, that date is the date Google read the page.

From what I found (the image and video you posted and the search I did), it looks like that happens to pages that have the same address but change the content, so while Google shows the updated text it shows an outdated crawl date, probably the previous crawl date.

Edited to add that there's no way of knowing when a page was published on the Internet, as, unlike images, what we see rarely corresponds to a file existing on a disk, they are created on the fly with information from a database, like this forum.
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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #80 on: October 14, 2017, 01:23:17 PM »
Zorgon, I suspect that you might be able to get your swords, knives, halberds, maces, shields, lances, pikes, battle-axes, dirks, and a full suit of armour in there buddy..

Well that is true  but we haven't had a group outing for a few years since the guild kind died...

The last time we went we took bow and arrows  but we did call ahead and told them. it was funny because the noob security outside said we couldn't bring in the bows... yet said nothing about the swords LOL  We told them call your boss and all was cool  So we went Dragon Hunting



Problem is when stupid people do stupid stuff the security mind goes crazy. The security mind NEVER catches a bad guy BEFORE the fact, they just make life miserable for all of us

Example the TSA at airports... they have never caught ONE terrorists but frisk old people and feel up your junk, fondle and strip search children and steal your stuff. (Just google TSA agent arrested and go back 10 years)  WHO are the real terrorists? Those that say they want to "protect" you

These days everything is a "false flag" until it happens in YOUR town and you see the bodies.  What then> Is it still a 'false flag"? Was it government created? If so WHY? what is the point and purpose? Everyone already believes its all BS news so who is effected ?

An operation has to have a purpose and effect or its a waste of time. When did we get so jaded that we can't see a random nutcase gone berserk?

Not much about it here on the news since I got back... Vegas tends to not high light things like this because it effect tourism, which is our life blood. The sooner its put behind the sooner life returns to normal.

If all shootings and bad news is 'false flag'  and we all know it... WHAT is the point? Think about it


In the meantime I will call Excalibur and see if we are still cool. Might wait a bit to let it cool down



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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #81 on: October 14, 2017, 01:27:42 PM »
Thank you ArMaP.
Please bear with me, but how does that explain that the story was posted 2 days before the 'event'?

Knews feeds do this all the time...  they will post an article on a certain day, then post an 'update' over top of it, burying the original story with the new report...  There are always two dates on an article  the original published date and the UPDATED date...

This issue has given me lots of grief over the years search articles and updating existing links.  It sucks because you can't copy their articles but they delete them and change them so it all gets lost

(so I save a copy anyway when its something important. Usually they won't bug you for copyright AFTER they have dropped it on their sight as its "old news" and no value to them

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #82 on: October 14, 2017, 01:39:39 PM »
I mean a guy can get XXX (insert total number of weapons) without tripping any alarms..

Well we always wore them in plain sight At the Treasure Island they required we had them piece tied (a small sting to keep someone from pulling it out from behind you) Excalibur did't care :D

But there are no metal detectors at casinos  There is facial recognition software on the cameras  but you would have had to been flagged for a previous action before it alerts anyone.  It did work in our favor on several occasions with noobie security. LOL One time Bijarki the Black my then body gaurd  6'2" built like a bear had two cross sowrds on back, two arm band claw daggers and assorted knives...

We got in and a noob gaurd stopped us and said "You can't bring those in here"  meanwhile the other security heard a weapons call and came looking. When they saw it was us, the stopped to watch how the noob did.  So we calmly told him we could, he called his boos... boss was a noob LOL  so we explained again and he called upstairs... so we hear  "yes they are peace tied... but..."  then "yes but..."  and then he turned to us and said "enjoy your stay" 

Awww the Goode Old Days... when the front center viewers box at the Excalibur Tournament was reserved for us costumed folkes :D

THIS is Bijarki (Bear in Norwegian)  He is special Ops :D  The guy to the left is then Governor Kenny Guinn and two channel 3 News people  This is what he was wearing at Treasure Island that cause d the stir



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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #83 on: October 14, 2017, 05:18:38 PM »
A friend of my daughter is a nurse in Las Vegas.  She said the hospital where she works got shooting victims.

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #84 on: October 15, 2017, 08:23:05 AM »
Conclusion? All these casualties couldn't possibly be caused by .223 rounds. Most likely, they were actually heavier rounds fired from something like a belt-fed AK system (7.62 x 39mm rounds), or perhaps even a belt-fed .308 automatic weapon. So where is all the brass, anyway?

I read an M60.  I don't remotely claim to be a gun nut, but from what little I do know, an AK weighs considerably less and would be easier to move around.  They still aren't a small gun though, (at least partly because of the size of the magazine) so I would assume that if you were seen with one, there would still be questions asked.

From the video footage I saw, the sound of the bullets at Mandalay had an unusually deep, base tone.  An AK firing has a much higher pitched, more treble sound; it's like thunder cracking.



I have heard the gunfire I heard in the Mandalay videos before, though.  It reminded me of the sound of an IWI Tavor, which is an assault rifle.



https://hooktube.com/watch?v=5nKx717ySu4

If you compare the above two videos; the first contains an IWI Tavor firing.  The second contains the sound of the initial gunfire at the LV concert.  I found another video on YouTube, and there appeared to be some kind of crackling overlaying the gunfire, which to me did not sound like gunfire at all.  The rate of fire does not sound like anything fully automatic, either.  It seems fairly close in both videos.

I expect that this will receive derision, but I will explain how I first heard of the IWI Tavor.  I play Minecraft and have for many years.  A year or so ago now probably, I came across a modification for the game which contained simulations of a number of more recent firearms.  One of them was the IWI Tavor, which was known in the game as an MTAR. 

I don't entirely know if this part of the recreation was accurate, but within the game an AK-47 was included as well, and I preferred the Tavor because its' heavier weight meant that it was more stable, and I had less problems maintaining aim due to recoil.  The real weapon seems to have remarkably low recoil for a gun of its' type.
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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #85 on: October 15, 2017, 10:32:50 AM »
If you compare the above two videos; the first contains an IWI Tavor firing.  The second contains the sound of the initial gunfire at the LV concert.
The sound in that second video is lacking high frequencies, everything sounds low pitched, the videos I have seen have a much better sound.

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I found another video on YouTube, and there appeared to be some kind of crackling overlaying the gunfire, which to me did not sound like gunfire at all.
A short sound, like a snap of fingers? I saw some people saying that's the bullet breaking the sound barrier, and that's why we only ear it in some shots, those that came closer to the camera.

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The rate of fire does not sound like anything fully automatic, either.  It seems fairly close in both videos.
That's the first thing I noticed, that the fire rate was not consistent, it usually slows down but, in at least one case, it accelerates again, before slowing down again at the end.

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #86 on: October 16, 2017, 09:35:58 PM »


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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #87 on: October 17, 2017, 12:28:22 PM »
The police radio recordings show that there were reports of shooters everywhere in that area, but as soon as the police got to the places they didn't find any sign of shooting.

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #88 on: October 18, 2017, 12:29:54 PM »
The police radio recordings show that there were reports of shooters everywhere in that area, but as soon as the police got to the places they didn't find any sign of shooting.

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #89 on: October 18, 2017, 04:47:20 PM »
petrus4, could you please use words? It's easier to understand what you mean. :)

 


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