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Re: The NDAA And Obama’s Secret ‘Kill List’
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2013, 03:24:23 pm »
Watch the Zapruder film again, but keep an eye on the driver
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Very interesting PWM, it seems as if the Driver leans over the outside of the driver side of the car a full 3-4 seconds before impact of forward thought shot. Very interesting indeed, never really watched for this so is eye opening, really good attention skills there PWM, are you our resident Alien? LOL :P

Here you skyotter, hopefully this video will give you the necessary visual effects that changed the world for the Kennedy assassinations being a co-hearsed ordeal. very saddening and very upsetting. My father was adamant that it was G. o. V. affiliated until his death.

Undamaged Zapruder Film

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq1PbgeBoQ4&feature=player_detailpage[/youtube]

There was another researcher from the "Other" website that did a re-evaluation of all the evidence, his finding's supported that it was not Oswald I believe. 'Z' might have privy ability too get that posters info, but am not sure of who or what he went by any longer, was quite compelling for the truth of the matter.

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Re: The NDAA And Obama’s Secret ‘Kill List’
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2013, 03:57:32 pm »


One would think that if the driver had indeed fired any shots, fellows passengers Govenor Conally and Jackie both would have reported this, yes?







Also bullet trajectories do not appear to support shots from the driver.


They do however support shots from down and to the right (curb grate), and also from the fence area.


The scene was indeed a shooting gallery with rounds coming in from all over, but I don't think the driver being one of them holds up under close scrutiny.


Shots fired from hidden vantage points make more sense and are also supported by trajectories and audio forensics.



 
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Re: The NDAA And Obama’s Secret ‘Kill List’
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2013, 01:26:37 am »
Unless... They were in on it.  Jackie may not have noticed how it happened.  But some probability Conally was in on the assassination... One never knows.
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Re: The NDAA And Obama’s Secret ‘Kill List’
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2013, 02:00:13 am »
Unless... They were in on it.  Jackie may not have noticed how it happened.  But some probability Conally was in on the assassination... One never knows.

So Conally's wife too?... and Connally was in on it? He got shot remember?


Jackie not notice? Ever been that close to a handgun going off?

Everyone in the car would have known where it came from with ears ringing.


But I digress, did you notice in the above video I posted that you can see the drivers hands milliseconds (1 frame) before the head shot?

Not even Bruce Lee is that quick.



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Re: The NDAA And Obama’s Secret ‘Kill List’
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2013, 04:29:01 am »
I thought History Channel had settled this?  It was told them by LBJ's butler that he had the hit put out on JFK and when it was done they reported back to LBJ at a dinner and the butler over heard him say "So it's done?  Good" and went on with dinner


But then maybe it was the time traveling Roswell aliens that did it... They do get around a lot :D


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Re: The NDAA And Obama’s Secret ‘Kill List’
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2013, 07:19:44 am »
Yes, that second film is exactly what i meant.

The gun may well have been silenced, and 'shooting over the shoulder' is a CIA tactic, it's called 'the Parthenian shot'.

I think he leaned over to avoid Oswald's bullets, saw that it wasn't fatal, & delivered the fatal shot himself. As you may recall, his body was never thorougly examined by a coroner ::)

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Re: The NDAA And Obama’s Secret ‘Kill List’
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2013, 08:49:28 am »
Yes, that second film is exactly what i meant.

The gun may well have been silenced, and 'shooting over the shoulder' is a CIA tactic, it's called 'the Parthenian shot'.

I think he leaned over to avoid Oswald's bullets, saw that it wasn't fatal, & delivered the fatal shot himself. As you may recall, his body was never thorougly examined by a coroner ::)


If the second film is exactly what you meant, then how about addressing the points raised in the film as well as the millisecond point that I raised?

Or the sunlight on the passengers head raised in the second film as well.

Or the several other points I already made.

So is this a pick and choose the points you think you have a shot at and ignore the rest discussion?



So now a silencer eh?

That speculation also fails close scrutiny if one bothers to think it through.

I would explain, but if this has turned into a 'address the points you think you have a shot at and ignore the rest'... I'll pass thanks.


As far as coroners, I would suggest looking up what the coroners who were present and did examine the wounds are now telling us that they were not allowed to say back then to the Warren commission, and why they have been afraid to come forward to buck the system until now.


Look I have no vested interest in ANY evidence, and would be willing to get on board the driver theory -IF- the evidence supported it.

It does not.


It appears the driver theory has die hard believers no matter the evidence to the contrary just like the Billy Meier case.


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Re: The NDAA And Obama’s Secret ‘Kill List’
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2013, 11:15:37 am »


Now in reference to the -down and to the right- origin of Kennedy's head shot resulting in his -back and to the left- response, as well as the upward spray of red, consider this evidence - 







"JFK's assassins may have escaped Dealey Plaza through underground sewer lines"

http://cipshare.com/jfktruth_com/drain/ManHole.htm



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Re: The NDAA And Obama’s Secret ‘Kill List’
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2013, 11:26:32 am »


Regardless of which theory one subscribes to, it is clear the Warren commission's report was a joke, a scam perpetrated on the public.

How many people wanting to testify were ignored?

...and Magic Bullet anyone?



And how about the members of the commission itself?

There is one name that should stand out like a red flag. 

Who?

Only the prime suspect with motive, access, resources and juice to pull it off.


So nice to have the fox guarding the hen house.



 
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Re: The NDAA And Obama’s Secret ‘Kill List’
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2013, 11:59:15 am »
I thought History Channel had settled this?  It was told them by LBJ's butler that he had the hit put out on JFK and when it was done they reported back to LBJ at a dinner and the butler over heard him say "So it's done?  Good" and went on with dinner


There is also the story told by LBJ's mistress.

He at least was aware of it and approved if we believe these two witnesses.



What bothers me is Jack Ruby also alluded to this by inference in his infamous handcuff interview.

Now why would a hired hand turn informant the very next day of his own free will?

To blow smoke and muddy the waters?


"One never knows".



 

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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2013, 12:35:41 pm »
I was looking for another film, showing the car from behind....
I didn't think that shiny thing was the gun. Could have been an under-arm shot?

In any case JFK got hit, LBJ was caught on film smiling when they heard the news, & the rest is history, there's been nothing but puppets since.

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Re: The NDAA And Obama’s Secret ‘Kill List’
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2013, 03:52:47 pm »
"One never knows".

but over 50 years later the question is...

...beyond idle curiosity... does anyone really care?

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Re: The NDAA And Obama’s Secret ‘Kill List’
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2013, 05:16:26 pm »
...Could have been an under-arm shot?


Ok I'm game, let's examine that idea.

I'll even throw a silencer in with the deal.


Here is a clear 2nd generation set right from the master in slow motion and this time let's indeed 'keep your eye on the driver',
but more importantly let's change the mantra to 'keep your eyes on his hands".

To aid in focusing on his hands, I ran the sequence a 2nd time zoomed in on the driver section only.


You will note in both cases, both the drivers hands are on the wheel during the head shot.

 





For either an under- arm shot, or an over the shoulder shot, the white of his shirt would be partially covered by the arm of his dark jacket coming across it.

In the head shot frame the white of his shirt is unobstructed and his left hand remains on the wheel.




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Re: The NDAA And Obama’s Secret ‘Kill List’
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2013, 05:18:59 pm »


but over 50 years later the question is...

...beyond idle curiosity... does anyone really care?


Maybe just a few nobodys... like me.



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Re: The NDAA And Obama’s Secret ‘Kill List’
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2013, 08:41:35 pm »
You are not alone, old friend; consider also that John Connally was sitting upright in front of Jfk and turns his head away seconds before the shot; the round didn't come thru the windshield, so down and to the right sounds spot on to me... I still remember the exact moment the announcement was made...


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