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The Living Moon => Thorfourwinds Section => The Challenges and Solutions Associated With Nuclear Energy => Topic started by: thorfourwinds on June 03, 2012, 11:31:30 am

Title: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 03, 2012, 11:31:30 am
"NukaTuna" -  The Last Fish in the Ocean


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Greetings:

Not since the tragic BP environmental disaster in the Gulf of Mexico has the Main Stream Media covered up a story as they have on the radiation spewing forth 24/7/365 from Fukushima.


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Finally, the MSM is reporting a little more about the over-a-year-long, ongoing environmental catastrophe at the TEPCO-owned Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant in Japan.

We do question the ten-month delay in the reporting of critical information, however. Were economic interests at play here?

29 May 2012
Fukushima Radiation found in Tuna caught near San Diego only 5 months after Fukushima disaster - VIDEO (http://enformable.com/2012/05/fukushima-radiation-found-in-tuna-caught-near-san-diego-only-5-months-after-fukushima-disaster/)


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One of the largest and speediest fish, Pacific Bluefin Tuna can grow to 10 feet and weigh more than 1,000 pounds.

They spawn off the Japan coast and swim east at breakneck speed to school in waters off California and the tip of Baja California, Mexico.


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Five months after the Fukushima disaster, Daniel J. Madigan a marine ecologist at Stanford’s Hopkins Marine Station in Pacific Grove (Monterey County), Nicholas Fisher, a marine scientist internationally known as a specialist in radiation hazards at Stony Brook University on Long Island, Zophia Baumann, a staff scientist in Fisher’s laboratory, and their team decided to test highly prized Pacific bluefin that were caught off the coast of San Diego last August.  The finding was wholly unexpected Madigan admitted later.

Madigan had collected samples of muscle tissue from 15 2-year-old tuna given to him by San Diego fishermen in August, and when tests detected radioactivity in one sample he sent all 15 samples to Fisher in Long Island, he said.

To their surprise, tissue samples from all 15 tuna captured contained levels of two radioactive substances — ceisum-134 and cesium-137 — that were higher than in previous catches. 

The contamination reportedly stems from the Fukushima nuclear disaster.


“We were frankly kind of startled,” said Fisher.


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The report shows that samples from the tuna contained 4 becquerels of cesium 134 per kilogram and 6.3 becquerels of cesium 137 per kilogram.  A becquerel is a unit of radioactivity equal to one nuclear disintegration per second.

Judging by the size of the bluefin tuna they sampled – they averaged about 15 pounds (6 kg) – the researchers knew these were young fish that had left Japanese water about a month after the accident.


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The levels of radioactive cesium were 10 times higher than the amount measured in tuna off the California coast in previous years.

Bluefin tuna caught in the same waters in 2008 reportedly carried no cesium 134 and only negligible levels of cesium 137.

The results “are unequivocal. Fukushima was the source,” said Ken Buesseler of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. (http://www.whoi.edu/)

Since the fish tested were born about a year before the disaster, “This year’s fish are going to be really interesting,” Madigan said.  “There were fish born around the time of the accident, and those are the ones showing up in California right now,” he said.

“Those have been, for the most part, swimming around in those contaminated waters their whole lives.”


So, this story comes out in the Main Stream Media in late May, 2012, 10 months after the fact... smells like fish to us...


Does this imply that fishmongers have been mongering contaminated, radioactive fish for over ten months to an aquatic vertebrate-addicted public?


Do you recall last year when NOAA and the EPA refused to answer questions regarding the possibility of radioactive contamination of the fisheries of the world, specifically the Alaskan waters, which produce 50 percent of the U.S.'s seafood ?


17 April 2011
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The FDA has claimed that there is no need to test Pacific fish for Japan nuclear radiation reports the Anchorage Daily News but when drilled on details by the reporter, the FDA refused to answer questions and gave the reporter the run-around.

The FDA says there will be no testing of fish until NOAA testing finds cause for alarm but NOAA refuses to answer questions on what kind of monitoring has been done.


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EPA officials, however, refused to answer questions or make staff members available to explain the exact location and number of monitors, or the levels of radiation, if any, being recorded at existing monitors in California.

Margot Perez-Sullivan, a spokeswoman at the EPA's regional headquarters in San Francisco, said the agency's written statement would stand on its own.


May we draw your attention to this tidbit we published in early November, 2011?


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Originally posted by muse7
Honestly, what do they have to gain if they did that?

The oceans would become contaminated, potentially massive die-off of sea life leading to possible human extinction which would result in all sides losing.


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The oceans would become contaminated ...

Tuna fish from Pacific Ocean is Radioactive -- Contaminated by Fukushima Nuclear Fallout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC_o6QvIFFs)


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DATA HIGHLIGHT:
An archival-tagged Pacific Bluefin Tuna released off Baja California in July 2006 was recaptured in the Korea Strait in December 2010.

The fish entered the Sea of Japan through the Tsugaru Strait near the Fukushima nuclear power plant, illustrating why there is concern that Pacific Bluefin may be contaminated with radiation.


How could radiation enter the fish food-chain?

Of much higher concern is Cesium-137, which has a half-life of 30 years (considered gone after 300 years). Of even higher concern is Plutonium-239 which has an unimaginable half-life of 24,000 years (considered gone after 240,000 years).

We know that both of these radioactive substances are present at the Fukushima plant, and have been found in the soil all over the region around Fukushima - in high quantities.

Even though the radiation in the water is surely being diluted, fish are swimming in that water and the diluted particles of Cesium and Plutonium will remain in the oceans for nearly a quarter of a million years...

Radiation is insidious, because it cannot be detected by the senses.

We are not biologically equipped to feel its power, or see, hear, touch or smell it.


Yet gamma radiation can penetrate our bodies if we are exposed to radioactive substances.

Beta particles can pass through the skin to damage living cells, although, like alpha particles, which are unable to penetrate this barrier, their most serious and irreparable damage is done when we ingest food or water - or inhale air - contaminated with particles of radioactive matter.

ONE molecule of plutonium within your system... ONE... will radiate energy for 24,000 years. It eventually will burn holes right through you... you WILL most likely develop cancer.


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However, it's not quite that simple. The half life of Plutonium 239 (the weapons grade stuff) is 24,100 years. That means that after that period of time half of the amount will have decayed, by alpha decay (release of a helium nucleus). And plutonium is montatomic, unlike oxygen and Hydrogen in narture, which are diatomic - O2 and H2. So you really don't speak of such monatomic elements, in their pure form, as molecules. They exist as discrete atoms.

So after 24,000 plus years the substance is still radiating. After that time, Half of it still exists and radiates, by alpha decay, as Plutonium. The other half exists and radiates, also by alpha decay, as Uranium 235, which, by the way, has a half life of 704 million years. Eventually, after going through a long chain of nucleides, it all ends up as lead.

The most dangerous stuff on Earth doesn't just shut off after it reaches its half life. There are trace amounts of Plutonium, as Plutonium 244, which can be found on Earth. As with all elements, it was created by the Big Bang, 13 or 14 billion years ago. It has a half life of "only" 80 million years, yet is still radiating away.


13 August 2011
For your consideration:

In the first week of the meltdown, Fukushima released more radioactive Cesium than Chernobyl and all of the nuclear bombs detonated during atmospheric testing.

The 100-ton fuel cores of Units 1, 2 and 3 melted through containment and fell into the basement of the reactor buildings. (TEPCO confirmed this 6 July 2011. The cores most likely melted through the concrete and entered the ground and water tables).

Chernoble was a '7' as rated by the International Atomic Energy Association (IAEA).

Fukushima should be an 8+ and still has not been contained and there is no viable solution offered to this date.

There are millions of people in Japan living in radiation levels higher than of the 'No-Go Zones' of Chernobyl.

34,000 Fukushima children between the ages of 4 and 15 are wearing radiation detectors to measure the bioaccumulation.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) stopped monitoring fallout from Fukushima in late April 2011.

Before the EPA stopped measuring radioactive fallout, radioactive Iodine, Cesium, Xenon and Uranium were measured in the U.S. at hundreds of times the legal background limit.


Tens of thousands of tons of radioactive water have been released by TEPCO into the Pacific Ocean, contaminating water and sea life. Elements like Cesium and Uranium have half-lives of thousands of years.

TEPCO and General Electric (GE) continue to obfuscate and hide the truth. It took three months to admit that a meltdown occurred in Units 1, 2 and 3 and close to four months until a melt-through had been confirmed.

The JapGov and TEPCO have yet to begin entombing the reactors, because radiation levels are so high that skilled technicians and engineers can only work for minutes at a time, before receiving their yearly dose of radiation. A few hours on site would lead to death.

'Hot Particles' are microscopic particles that travel through the air with weather and wind patterns. When 'hot particles' are injested by human beings, they lodge in lung and bone tissues and create cancers in surrounding cells.

It only takes one.


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Citizens in Tokyo, Japan, are inhaling 10 hot particles a day.


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Citizens in Seattle, Washington and Los Angeles, California are inhaling 5 hot particles a day.

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Because of the jet stream in April, after the large explosions that destroyed three reactor buildings, it was as dangerous in Seattle and much of the west coast of North America as in Tokyo.


It only takes one of these
particles to trigger a cancer.

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A new report from independent scientists in Japan found a much greater release of “hot particles” from the Fukushima power plant than originally estimated. These include radioactive isotopes of cesium, strontium, uranium, plutonium, cobalt-60 and many others.

The average person in Tokyo is thought to have inhaled 10 “hot particles” per day throughout the month of April 2011. The inhabitants of Fukushima were estimated to have inhaled 30-40 times more than that—or up to 400 hot particles per day every day that month.


The above information indicates that there will be a substantial increase in radiation poisoning, cancer and subsequent premature deaths in Japan as a direct result of Fukushima.


And yet, government and industry schemers attack these truths as unfounded scare-mongering. With cold indifference, they will deny that Fukushima is a mass-casualty event.


They will continue to publish propaganda, draped in the guise of 'science', that dismisses the hazard of low levels of internal contamination.

Believing their subterfuge to have been successful in past nuclear disasters (Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, etc.), they have already positioned themselves to stage-manage the public's perception of Fukushima.

However, no one has the right to allow any discussion of the grave dangers of radiation from Fukushima, which is of unprecedented urgency and gravity, to be influenced - let alone dominated - by those insane enough to poison the discussion with debating points, half-truths and distortions.

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In Seattle, WA in the Northwestern U.S., it is estimated that the average person absorbed five “hot particles” per day during the month of April 2011, or 10 “hot particles” per day if they are athletes who are working out. These invisible atomic particles become lodged in your lungs, intestines, bone or muscle.

Professor Christopher Busby, scientific secretary of the European Committee on radiation risks, says that fuel rods at Fukushima got blown sky high, that concentrations of uranium and plutonium particles had been detected in air filters in Hawaii and the Marianas Islands by the end of April.

So people knew about this but they were not talking.

Gundersen says, “Well, the radiation initially comes out as a big cloud of gases, and that’s what you can measure with a Geiger counter. But now what we’re finding are these things called ‘hot particles,’ and in the industry it’s interesting because in Seattle it didn’t go down much.

It was about five particles a day, because most of the time, as we talked about in April, the wind was blowing toward the West Coast.

A hot particle is defined as an alpha-emitting particle
that contains sufficient activity to deliver at least
1000 rem/yr to the surrounding lung tissue.


The government recommends that the maximum
permissible lung particle burden for members
of the public be 0.2 hot particles, and the average
lung burden for members of the public be 0.07
hot particles, a factor of 3 less than the maximum.

Let’s say that the official numbers were five “hot particles” per day (10 if one is physically active outdoors) for everyone on the West Coast for the month of April. Now let us be very conservative and say that this has dropped from the initially high post-explosion levels at Fukushima down now to one a day.

At one a day that would still be 30 of these death particles a month.

So perhaps the average person has already absorbed in these three months approximately 200 radioactive particles into their lungs and other tissues.

When you think that if even one of these 200 is plutonium, we have to think in terms of millions of eventual cancer deaths! source (http://theintelhub.com/2011/06/17/nuclear-doom-hot-particles-slow-death-and-cancer/)


After years of decline, two large American cities, Philadelphia and Seattle have seen a 35% rise in infant mortality rates from the months of March 2011 - July 2011.

Radiation levels that are multiple times above legal limits, as set by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), have been detected in rain water, milk, fish, dairy products, vegetables, fruits and beef products in the United States.

This has hardly been covered by the MSM.


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...massive die-off of sea life... (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread764221/pg1#pid12567400)


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... leading to possible human extinction ...


Japan Times Column: (http://enenews.com/japan-times-column-public-possibly-worldwide-sickens-time-truth-will-leak-about-fukushima)
As the public – possibly worldwide – sickens over time,
'the truth will leak out' about Fukushima


Here is an excerpt Debito Arudou (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debito_Arudou)‘s latest piece for the Japan Times:

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"Regardless, the awful truth is:

‘We Japanese don’t lie. We just don’t tell the truth.’

This is not sustainable. Post-Fukushima Japan must realize that public acceptance of lying got us into this radioactive mess in the first place.

For radiation has no media cycle. It lingers and poisons the land and food chain.

Statistics may be obfuscated or suppressed as usual, but radiation’s half-life is longer than the typical attention span or sustainable degree of public outrage."


The truth is out there.

Japan gov’t finds 165 locations over wide area with cesium-137 exceeding Chernobyl evacuation levels —Data shows radiation could be 'spreading to other areas' (http://enenews.com/japan-govt-finds-165-locations-wide-area-cesium-137-exceeding-chernobyl-evacuation-levels-data-shows-radiation-could-be-spreading-other-areas)

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The first comprehensive survey of soil contamination from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant showed that 33 locations spread over a wide area have been contaminated with long-lasting radioactive cesium, the government said Tuesday.

The survey of 2,200 locations within a 100-kilometer (62-mile) radius of the crippled plant found that those 33 locations had cesium-137 in excess of 1.48 million becquerels per square meter, the level set by the Soviet Union for forced resettlement after the 1986 Chernobyl disaster.

Another 132 locations had a combined amount of cesium 137/134 over 555,000 becquerels per square meter, the level at which the Soviet authorities called for voluntary evacuation and imposed a ban on farming.

[...] the latest data point to the possibility that cesium could also be washing away and spreading to other areas, potentially contaminating rivers, lower-lying land and the ocean. ...


And now, a word from our U.S. Government:


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So far, the FDA said that every piece of seafood that has been imported to the United States is safe.

source (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/radiation-japans-fish-raise-concerns-world/story?id=13302515#.TrLG_N0_P4w)

Right.

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More specifically, an FDA spokesperson told ABC News that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement "is screening everything from Japan."


5 April 2011
High Radiation in Japanese Fish Raises Concerns (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/radiation-japans-fish-raise-concerns-world/story?id=13302515#.TrLG_N0_P4w)


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A chef serves fatty tuna at a sushi restaurant in Tokyo on April 5, 2011.

The government set its first radiation safety standards for fish after Japan's tsunami-ravaged nuclear plant reported radioactive contamination in nearby seawater measuring at several million times the legal limit. (Shuji Kajiyama/AP Photo)


However, screening does not entail testing all the seafood.

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In fact, the FDA inspects less than 2 percent of seafood, according to Winona Hauter, executive director of Food & Water Watch.

"FDA couldn't possibly with existing staff test all of the food that's being imported," Hauter said. "They inspect less than 2 percent of seafood. Their resources are really stretched."

5 April 2011
ALERT: Fish near Fukushima at 4000% above Codex Alimentarius limit for radioactive Iodine-131
— Yet US says eating it poses NO health risk (http://enenews.com/fda-epa-and-cdc-say-no-health-risk-from-eating-contaminated-fish-caught-near-fukushima-even-though-4080-bqkg-of-i-131-found-in-fish-sample)

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U.S. public-health officials sought Tuesday to reassure consumers about the safety of food in the U.S., including seafood, amid news that fish contaminated with unusually high levels of radioactive materials had been caught in waters 50 miles from the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan.

May we bring your attention to the word, "stricken?"

Even though this is only 25 days into the event, the fix is clearly in.

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No contaminated fish have turned up in the U.S., or in U.S. waters, according to experts from the Food and Drug Administration, Environmental Protection Agency and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

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They expressed confidence that even a single fish sufficiently contaminated to pose a risk to human health would be detected by the U.S. monitoring system.

The FDA, EPA & CDCP "express confidence" that they would detect a single contaminated fish.

Too bad illegals coming through Mexico across our Southern Border aren't "sufficiently contaminated"...

hmmmmmm... wait just a minute...

(checking the market for errant broken arrow parts...)

FOUND IT!

NukeSpray - essense of Fukushima in aerosol form...

Signs off and goes to the U.S. Mexico border...


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They also dismissed concerns that eating fish contaminated at the levels seen so far in Japan would pose such a risk.


But, does one think that these talking heads would actually eat any of this fish?


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Thomas Frieden, head of the CDC in Atlanta, said he expected continued detection of low levels of radioactive elements in the water, air and food in the U.S. in coming days, but that readings at those levels do not indicate any level of public health concern.
source (http://enenews.com/fda-epa-and-cdc-say-no-health-risk-from-eating-contaminated-fish-caught-near-fukushima-even-though-4080-bqkg-of-i-131-found-in-fish-sample)


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Offshore from the Fukushima plant, the seawater is now testing at levels off the charts...
7.5 million times more radioactive than the legal limit.

"I can't go out to fish because of the radiation," one Japanese fisherman told ABC News. "I cannot do anything."

But another fisherman said it was a "bad rumor" that the fish was unsafe to eat.

"The fish are totally fine, I believe," he said.

Because of the elevated levels, the Japanese government also announced on Tuesday that it will, for the first time, enact radiation safety standards for fish.

"We're deeply sorry for discharging the radiated water," said Japan's chief cabinet secretary Yukio Edano on Monday, "but it was necessary to prevent spreading higher radiated water into the ocean."

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Independent: Why Fukushima is worse than Chernobyl; ‘Now the truth is coming out’ — 72,000 times worse than Hiroshima & 1 million+ cancer deaths, says professor (http://enenews.com/independent-why-fukushima-is-worse-than-chernobyl-now-the-truth-is-coming-out-72000-times-worse-than-hiroshima-1-million-cancer-deaths-says-professor)


However, if one was a conspiracy theory buff, one might draw some sort of correlation between these stories...

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China accounted for 61.5 percent of global aquaculture (http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/06/the-scariest-chart-about-seafood-youll-see-this-year/240465/) in 2008, a fact that has profound implications for the rest of the world in terms of food safety.

When we deal with fish from China, we can't be sure the fish is free of a host of risky antibiotics and other chemicals—and in the U.S., at least, the government isn't adequately prepared to check.

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China is now the single largest exporter of seafood to the United States, and the country is a particularly important supplier of shrimp and catfish, which have historically been two of the 10 most consumed seafood products in the U.S.

In 2008, Don Kraemer, then deputy director at the Office of Food Safety of the Food and Drug Administration's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition, testified before the U.S. and China Economic and Security Review Commission, with the goal of assessing "the health impact of imported Chinese seafood." As Kraemer put it:

In the course of an increased sampling program of imported Chinese aquacultured seafood which ran from October 1, 2006, through May 31, 2007, FDA continued to find residue of unapproved drugs in fish species including catfish, basa, shrimp, dace and eel.

Because the problems were seen in product from many different companies located in various parts of China, FDA imposed a countrywide Import Alert (IA #16-131) on all farm-raised catfish, basa, shrimp, dace and eel from China.

The Import Alert he mentions gives the U.S. government authority to "detain, without physical examination, all shipments of aquacultured catfish, Basa (Pangasius sp), shrimp, dace, and eel from the People's Republic of China," with the exception of shipments from seafood firms that the FDA examines and approves. As Kraemer added, "Approximately 26 Chinese firms have requested their removal from Import Alert 16-131."


"To date (2008), none have fully met FDA's expectations for removal."
 

HOLD THE PRESS! UPDATE !  BREAKING NEWS ! (http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cms_ia/importalert_33.html)

Import Alert # 16-131
Published Date: 04/11/2012
Type: DWPE
Import Alert Name:
"Detention Without Physical Examination of Aquacultured Catfish, Basa, Shrimp, Dace, and Eel from China- Presence of New Animal Drugs and/or Unsafe Food Additives"

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Reason for Alert:
There has been extensive commercialization and increased consumption of aquaculture seafood products worldwide. Aquacultured seafood has become the fastest growing sector of the world food economy, accounting for approximately half of all seafood production worldwide.

Approximately 80% of the seafood consumed in the U.S. is imported from approximately 62 countries. Over 40% of that seafood comes from aquaculture operations. As the aquaculture industry continues to grow and compete with wild-caught seafood products, concerns regarding the use of unapproved animal drugs and unsafe chemicals and the misuse of animal drugs in aquaculture operations have increased substantially.

China is the largest producer of aquacultured seafood in the world, accounting for 70% of the total production and 55% of the total value of aquacultured seafood exported around the world. China is currently the third largest exporter of seafood to the U.S. Shrimp and catfish products represent two of the top ten most consumed seafood products in the U.S...


Microchips with your seafood?

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Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: A51Watcher on June 03, 2012, 12:39:16 pm
All we need to do is -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-XtvR6-ckg


"For millions of years,

Mankind lived just like the animals.


Then something happened,

which unleashed the power of our imagination:


We learned to talk.


It doesn't have to be like this...

all we need to do -

is make sure

we Keep Talking."


 - Stephen Hawking


(bump)




Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: Amaterasu on June 03, 2012, 02:56:29 pm
Wow.  So very glad I went virtually vegetarian.  And really...  There is no safe food...

Where are Our "space brothers" in all this?  We will die painfully, and do They just watch from afar?  Perhaps there are no "space brothers..."
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: deuem on June 04, 2012, 02:17:56 am
Wow thorfourwinds, that was some post.  Poor fish! Poor people that will eat them. Brings a new meaning to "you are what you eat". What happens when people on the west coast start dropping dead like flies from radiation? Maybe it was the fish I ate? This has to be affecting more than just the Tuna, the entire eco system and food chain is going to have problems.
 
After all that research, Do you have any idea what they can do to stop it?
 
Deuem
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: Amaterasu on June 04, 2012, 06:35:58 am
Electrogravitics can neutralize radiation...  And then (courtesy of hobbity) there's this:  http://www.nottaughtinschools.com/Yull-Brown/Free-Energy-Interview.html
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 04, 2012, 11:02:40 am
Wow.  So very glad I went virtually vegetarian.  And really...  There is no safe food...

Where are Our "space brothers" in all this?  We will die painfully, and do They just watch from afar?  Perhaps there are no "space brothers..."

Greetings:

We have safe food, and planted many more peppers, tomatoes, cucumbers and squash in the protected organic garden yesterday. The sweet corn and beans are coming along nicely, thank you and awaiting your loving touch...

Perhaps our 'Space Brothers' are honoring their own 'Prime Directive' of non-intervention

- "unless invited..."


Meanwhile, back at the ranch...


Is Nuclear Fallout from Japan still Bombarding America? (http://theintelhub.com/2012/04/05/is-nuclear-fallout-from-japan-still-bombarding-america/)

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While the mainstream media long ago moved on from covering the nuclear disaster in Japan, a number of independent journalists and scientists have been warning that the disaster is far from over.

In fact, many experts are suggesting that dangerously high levels of nuclear fallout and radiation are still blanketing the western coast of the United States.

One year later and the problems just keep getting worse…

An independent reporter, EnviroReporter out of Los Angeles CA., has conducted over 1,500 tests in the Los Angeles area since the disaster occurred.

In his latest set of readings, he tested a sampling of rain water that was composed primarily of sea mist. The levels of radiation that he detected were over five times the normal background radiation levels in Santa Monica CA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LZRQrAtsT0


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An imperfect storm swept into Southern California on, perhaps appropriately enough, April Fools weekend creating the conditions that tested EnviroReporter.com's scientific hypothesis that radioactive "buckyballs" and other fission radionuclides from the triple Fukushima Japan meltdowns are already impacting the region.

Sure enough, a rain composed primarily of sea mist formed over a choppy ocean with high winds tested higher than any other Los Angeles Basin rain since Radiation Station Santa Monica began fallout radiation tests March 15, 2011, four days after the unabated meltdowns began.

The rain, not impacted by so-called "natural" radon progeny, came in at a whopping 506% above normal, more than high enough to qualify as a hazardous material situation for the California Highway Patrol.

This is the hottest L.A. rain detected with our Inspector Alert nuclear radiation monitor in the over 1,500 radiation tests we've taken since last year's Ides of March.


And now, from China Daily:

Japan's disaster as bad as or worse than Chernobyl (http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2012-03/12/content_14814975.htm)

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VANCOUVER - The severity of Japan's Fukushima nuclear disaster may be as bad as or worse than Chernobyl, an American nuclear expert warned Sunday.

Arnold Gundersen, a former nuclear power industry executive, said it was clear to him within two days of the Japan earthquake and tsunami that "Fukushima was as bad as or worse than Chernobyl."

"We call that a level 7, which is as high as the scale goes," he said from his Vermont base via teleconference to delegates of a seminar entitled "The Fukushima Nuclear Disaster -- One Year Later."
...
"Chernobyl was a single reactor running at about 7 percent capacity when ruptured, while Fukushima, about 275 km north of Tokyo, had three reactors running at 100 percent capacity and seven other reactors with spent fuel pools that were crippled," said Gundersen...

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If there were any positives to the Fukushima disaster, he said, the wind was mostly blowing out to sea at the time of the accident.

The bad news is large quantities of cesium 137, a radioactive material, has been found in abnormal amounts in the cedar trees of the surrounding mountains of the plant and "revolatalized into the atmosphere".

"Also, the cesium is being washed into rivers and the rivers, of course, are heading toward the ocean. But we are seeing contamination in freshwater fish as well as ocean fish as a result of all the run-off," he said.

"Large cesium deposits (are also being found) on the bottom of the river bed that gets picked up by weeds and seaweed in the ocean that then gets eaten by other fish and mollusks and work their way up the food chain,"  Gundersen added.

"Although there have been no deaths related to the Fukushima meltdown to date, over the next 20 years there would be about 1 million additional cancers and other health problems from the accident," said Gundersen.

"The further you get away from Fukushima, the less people think their lives are affected," he said.

"But even in Tokyo most people think it is over and they survived it. But with the latency periods of these cancers it's going to pop up 20 years out and people will wonder where it came from," said Gundersen.


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Just two days after Jaczko’s announced retirement from the NRC, that agency and FEMA quietly overhauled emergency planning around this nation’s nuclear plants, cutting requirements for evacuations and emergency responder exercises.

This diminished response flies in the face of the lessons that should have been learned from the disaster in Japan, even in the NRC’s own internal evaluations. The cut-backs coincided with a seriously flawed ‘new’ study (http://www.simplyinfo.org/?p=6081) released last week by a sometimes professor at the MIT nuclear department which is directly contradicted by previous MIT studies to the same subject as well as DOE’s ongoing low dose radiation research program.

Meanwhile, TEPCO itself reported last week that its latest estimates of radiation released from the Daiichi facility over the past 14 months amounts to 760,000 terabecquerels, including 400,000 Tbq of iodine-131 and 360,000 Tbq of cesium-137. 360,000 Tbq of cesium-137 is 4 times the cesium-137 released by Chernobyl in 1986, which resulted in a 1600 square mile exclusion zone that remains unfit for human habitation today, more than 26 years later.

Nuclear Bombshell: $26 Billion cost — $10,800 per kilowatt! — killed Ontario nuclear bid (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2009/07/15/204378/nuclear-power-plant-cost-bombshell-ontario/)

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As costs for new nuclear plants keep rising along with the overt and hidden government subsidies without which the industry could not compete, the few plants ordered in the United States are running headlong into citizen groups and state utility commission resistance.

Even without factoring future costs of decommissioning and long term waste disposal (which still doesn’t exist after half a century), nuclear weighs in at more than $10,800 per kilowatt hour and rising (as of 2009).

That’s two to three times the cost of renewable alternatives, for which per-kilowatt costs are steadily falling.

Forcing yet more dangerous nukes on income-strapped Americans struggling to make ends meet in the worst economy since the Great Depression makes no rational sense no matter how you parse the data.

It seems like right at the time when we should be actively planning for the total shut-down of the nuclear industry, we’re getting hit instead with the total insanity of nuclear expansion.

The definition of insanity, after all, is doing the same thing over and over again, each time expecting a different outcome...


FYI:

The various media accounts of the study have included some confusing statements. Statements that the findings are “below limits” or “totally safe” are misleading and confusing as they don’t give a clear understanding of what was found.


The US FDA level of contamination before action is taken is 1200 bq/kg, considerably higher than the Japanese level of 100 bq/kg.


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While the findings in the paper are low it doesn’t mean there is no risk. Eating a piece of tuna from the study won’t make someone drop dead at the sushi bar, but it does add to your internal contamination level of a man made radioactive substance that takes 110 days for half of it to clear your body.

Internal contamination is worse than external contamination. If someone is continually eating contaminated food from one or many sources every day it does add up quickly.

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Some people in Japan tested by the NGO group ACRO were found to have significant amounts of cesium in their urine that increased over time rather than decreased. This was due to diet, as these people became more selective in their food choices their internal contamination levels decreased.

The US “safe” level is incredibly high, any report citing “below safety limits” rather than actual contamination results are being a bit dishonest.


"...a bit dishonest?"


WTF ?

Rice and other foodstuffs in Japan are being confiscated by the JAPGOV "for further testing" at 200 bq/kg!!!!!!!


(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/Radioactive%20Tuna/AricefieldinSoma.jpg)
(REUTERS/Kim Kyung-Hoon)
A rice field is seen in Soma, about 40 km (25 miles) north of the tsunami-crippled
 Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, in Fukushima prefecture, September 10, 2011.

And that only came about after a public outcry that the 500 bq/kg was too 'permissive.'

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If the level of cesium in rice exceeded the government-imposed cap of 500 becquerels per kg, shipments from locally produced rice will be halted.


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Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: burntheships on June 04, 2012, 11:17:03 am

We have safe food, and planted many more peppers, tomatoes, cucumbers and squash in the protected organic garden yesterday.

Thor, great post! What can you share about your ways of protecting
your organic garden from Fukushima Fallout?

Are you using a green house, or some other type of shelter?
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 04, 2012, 11:54:02 am


We have safe food, and planted many more peppers, tomatoes, cucumbers and squash in the protected organic garden yesterday.

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Thor, great post! What can you share about your ways of protecting
your organic garden from Fukushima Fallout?

Are you using a green house, or some other type of shelter?


Greetings:

Thank you for your kind words and interest.

Since we got nuked last year in the tomato patch, we have removed the top 6 inches of topsoil and secreted it in one place in the nearby woods for observation...

Then, we added 15 bags of Nature's Helper and fresh topsoil unearthed from below 6" of undisturbed forest floor adjacent to our garden and tilled it all together to a loose depth of about 8 inches.

We then allowed 20-foot 1-inch PVC pipe to warm in the sun and CAREFULLY bent it to go over 2-foot Rebar driven 14" into the ground 10-feet apart and 4-feet on the sides. - Voila! -  a 10-foot wide and about 7-foot high by 20-feet long hoop house which we covered with a waterproof, yet breathable membrane.

The cherry tomatoes are about 6-foot tall and producing now. We have various types set to come in at suitable intervals. Squash is blooming and we are eating green beans right out of the garden.

BTW, on the drone thing... we can hit airborne Canadian Honkers with our .22 semi-automatic at a fair distance. Wonder how them government targets match up to  10-gauge 3" #4's?

They were warned.

tfw

P.S.
We have declared Rabun County to be not only nuke-free, but drone-free!

You have my direct contact info in the Mod Skype place.

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Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 04, 2012, 12:01:05 pm
All we need to do is -


[youtube]r-XtvR6-ckg[/youtube]


"For millions of years,

Mankind lived just like the animals.


Then something happened,

which unleashed the power of our imagination:


We learned to talk.


It doesn't have to be like this...

all we need to do -

is make sure

we Keep Talking."


 - Stephen Hawking


(bump)

Greetings:

Obviously, we appreciate many of the same things.

Thank you for all you do.

tfw
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: burntheships on June 04, 2012, 12:02:46 pm
Thank you for sharing your info on the garden.

Brilliant idea there. While I imagine that was a lot of work
in the long run it will be worth it. I have wondered about the
actual exposure we had, and will continue to have...

It is reactor #4 that is still hot with all of the spent rods,
and we are in trouble.

Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 04, 2012, 12:14:55 pm
Thank you for sharing your info on the garden.

Brilliant idea there. While I imagine that was a lot of work
in the long run it will be worth it. I have wondered about the
actual exposure we had, and will continue to have...

It is reactor #4 that is still hot with all of the spent rods,
and we are in trouble.

Actually, not that much trouble:

(10)   24-inch rebars, pre-cut and available at Home Depot

(6)   20-foot 1" PVC pipes, also at the Home

(1)   20' x 20' piece of waterproof material - 10-mil clear plastic will work

We used 6-inch pieces of 1.25 PVC to 'clamp' the fabric

A couple of peeps can do it easily in a couple of hours...

And it will be well-worth it.

The irradiated rainwater destroyed all
our outdoor foodstuffs last year... NEVER AGAIN...

tfw

Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 04, 2012, 12:31:04 pm
Thank you for sharing your info on the garden.

Brilliant idea there. While I imagine that was a lot of work
in the long run it will be worth it. I have wondered about the
actual exposure we had, and will continue to have...

It is reactor #4 that is still hot with all of the spent rods,
and we are in trouble.

Greetings:

Perhaps this will interest you also:

The coal, petroleum and nuclear power based energy industries are part of it. More specifically, the entire nuclear industry -- uranium mines and mills, uranium enrichment facilities, nuclear power plants, nuclear missiles and bombs, depleted uranium weapons -- all of this is incompatible with healthful, lomg-term habitation of this planet by human beings and most other biological life forms.

The explosions and melt-downs of the nuclear power plants at Chernobyl and Fukushima, and the near melt-down of the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant, have proven that humanity cannot handle nuclear power.

We cannot control the power plants themselves and we have no workable answer for long-term disposal of nuclear waste."

We have opened a nuclear Pandora's box, the nuclear demon has escaped, and we now have Hell to pay.

It may be that humanity will go extinct, and sterilize a huge part of the planet in the process. We are in deep trouble, we know that much.

The crisis at Fukushima continues to worsen, and there are problems at other nuclear power plants within Japan, as well as in the USA, such as at San Onofre, in southern California near San Diego, where there are severe safety issues.


Of course, all bets are off if Nukushima #4 CSFP falls apart.

One of the reasons that PRC exists (IMHO) is to put 'the right' peeps together who share the vision and fully understand what LE so eloquently speaks of.


For your edification and enjoyment:

10 trillion becquerels per hour of radiation currently being released from Fukushima plant": Researcher (VIDEO) August 18, 2011

So what is it?

76,000,000,000,000 (76 trillion) so far, or, 240,000,000,000,000 (10 triliion per hour) every day?

We know for a fact that tens of tons of uranium was launched and aerosolized, mostly from the Reactor 3 explosion. And we know that Reactor 3 used MOX fuel which is uranium mixed with plutonium. And we know that all used fuel contains plutonium.

We know that at LEAST hundreds of pounds of plutonium were launched and aerosolized from Fukushima.

It takes only ONE hot particle...

The proof is laid out quite clearly here:

http://nukepimp.blogspot.com/2012/01/uranium-in-air.html

For your consideration:

Fukushima Daiichi: It May Be too Late Unless the Military Steps In:
Akio Matsumura l Finding the Missing Link  11 May, 2012 (http://akiomatsumura.com/2012/05/fukushima-daiichi-it-may-be-too-late-unless-the-military-steps-in.html)


"The highly radioactive spent fuel assemblies at the Fukushima-Daiichi power plants present a clear threat to the people of Japan and the world.

Reactor 4 and the nearby common spent fuel pool contain over 11,000 highly radioactive spent fuel assemblies, many of which are exposed to the open air.

The cesium-137, the radioactive component contained in these assemblies, present at the site is 85 times larger than the amount released during the Chernobyl accident. Another magnitude 7.0 earthquake would jar them from their pool or stop the cooling water, which would lead to a nuclear fire and meltdown.


The nuclear disaster that would result is beyond anything science has ever seen. 


Calling it a global catastrophe is no exaggeration.

If political leaders understand the situation and the potential catastrophe, we find it difficult to understand why they remain silent.

The following leaves little to question:

   Many scientists believe that it will be impossible to remove the 1,535 fuel assemblies in the pool of Reactor 4 within two or three years.

   .   Japanese scientists give a greater than 90 percent  probability that an earthquake of at least 7.0 magnitude will occur in the next three years in the close vicinity of Fukushia-Daiichi.

   .   The crippled building of Reactor 4 will not stand through another strong earthquake.

   .   Japan and the TEPCO do not have adequate nuclear technology and experience to handle a disaster of such proportions alone.

Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon wrote a letter to Japan’s Ambassador to the United States, Mr. Ichiro Fujisaki, on April 16, 2012, discussing his fact-finding trip to the Fukushima Daiichi site.

Senator Wyden, senior member of the United States Committee on Energy and Natural Resources, mentioned that “the scope of damage to the plants and to the surrounding area was far beyond what [he] expected and the scope of the challenge to the utility owner, the government of Japan, and to the people of the region are daunting.” 

He also mentioned that “TEPCO’s December 21, 2011 remediation roadmap proposes to take up to ten years to complete spent fuel removal from all of the pools on the site.  Given the compromised nature of these structures due to the events of March 11, their schedule carries extraordinary and continuing risk if further severe seismic events were to occur.”

Many of us echo Senator Wyden’s concerns.


PLEASE READ AND COMPREHEND THIS:

"If this catastrophe occurred, regardless of policy and politics, all 440 nuclear power plants throughout the world would be forced to shut down, yet our descendants no matter what will have to carry the risk of radioactive materials in the nuclear waste repository for 100,000 to 200,000 years.

This is a long amount of time to conceive of, so let us put it in context.

It is said that our anscestors might have made their journey to the rest of the world from South Africa about 100,000 years ago, and crafted our first tools of the Stone Age about 20,000 years ago.

We will need the same amount of time that our human species has existed for in order to safely deposit radioactive material!

How come do we envision the poison to be transferred on to our descendants for so long and how will we find a way to indicate the location of the radioactive repository?

Are we sure that the hundreds - if not thousands - of radioactive repositories throughout the world be protected from severe seismic events for this incredible period of the time?

If this global catastrophe occurs, the best we can hope is that the memory of our disaster might be passed on to our future generations in the hope that they might invent the new technology to prevent them from another such catastrophe."


Good grief, Charlie Brown!


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Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: Amaterasu on June 04, 2012, 02:24:31 pm
Greetings:

We have safe food, and planted many more peppers, tomatoes, cucumbers and squash in the protected organic garden yesterday. The sweet corn and beans are coming along nicely, thank you and awaiting your loving touch...

Don't expect much with My black thumb!  LOL!  Seriously, I cannot tell You how many plants I tried so hard to keep alive.  Did manage to keep a pathos alive for years, but that was My only success.

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Perhaps our 'Space Brothers' are honoring their own 'Prime Directive' of non-intervention

- "unless invited..."

Well...  Who gets to invite???  *I*'m inviting Them!  But I guess I don't count.  [shrug]


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Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

Well, when it happened, I knew it was horrific.  MUCH worse than Chernobyl.  But the media kept saying, "Oh, it's nothing."  For a year, I have watched and wondered where the outrage was that virtually nothing was being done while the radiation spewed.  I had no doubt that the facts would eventually be admitted to - and I wondered how long it would take.

On that scale...  Chernobyl is a 7...  Fukushima?  15.
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: Linda Brown on June 04, 2012, 04:47:20 pm
"Well...  Who gets to invite???  *I*'m inviting Them!  But I guess I don't count.  [shrug]

You don't?


Linda
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: zorgon on June 04, 2012, 05:04:59 pm
Well...  Who gets to invite???  *I*'m inviting Them! 

Careful what you wish for :P They may just comer and decide Hu-mons are not worth the trouble and disinfect the planet  :o

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On that scale...  Chernobyl is a 7...  Fukushima?  15.

Despite what people say about the Russians, that situation was dealt with relatively swiftly. Though they didn't say why, they did evacuate the area fast ( I have the details and the aftermath info in a thread on Chernobyl... well worth the time to see the films)

Did you know they sent 500,000 Red Army soldiers in there to clean up by hand?

On top of that they covered the place in a concrete casket (and are working on a new one to replace the old one now)

In the case of Fukushima... they just let them run wild while telling us nothing to worry about we have it under control. Back at ATS I spent three MONTHS along with a few others reporting live as it happened. That thread is still the all time top thread at ATS. There were a few experts in there and we all knew from just looking at the photos that there were at least THREE reactors in full meltdown

yet there has still been no sarcophagus made to stop the leak...

It was obvious from the beginning that there was NO WAY they had containment because of the type of reactor that pumped the 'hot' water straight to the turbines in a secondary building. The pipes were all broken... how could they have had any containment?

We sent our aircraft carriers to help... (they have enough power plants on board to power a small city) but were told they were not needed... that things were under control... (as two more buildings exploded on live TV)

Thr carriers then high tailed it out of the area because the radioactivity leaking into the sea was so bad that it was effecting the cooling systems of the onboard nuclear power plants. They had to leave the area or risk their own nuke problem

So 15?  I would say closer to 98 :D
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 04, 2012, 06:15:15 pm
Greetings:

While we have your attention...

You just can’t make this stuff up, folks... we’ll just run it unedited for your edification and enjoyment.



Fukushima 311 Watchdogs (http://www.fukushima311watchdogs.org/)

For record before it disappears...

JAEA (Japan Atomic Energy Agency) tries to do the "risk communication" to ordinary citizens and blows itself up on Twitter.

JAEA's Tokai Research and Development Center Nuclear Fuel Cycle Engineering department has created the page below (http://www.jaea.go.jp/04/ztokai/katsudo/risk/message/index.html), to communicate things nuclear more effectively to general public who are not familiar with special terminology and numbers.

The target is women, who they say have less understanding of technical aspect of nuclear energy than men. Therefore, the key to better communication is to how to adopt women's point of view, they say.

So what have they come up with?

Using a quarrel between husband and wife to illustrate what radiation, radioactivity, radioactive material mean.

(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/Radioactive%20Tuna/JAEAriskcomm.jpg)

If we compare radiation and radioactivity to a quarrel between husband and wife...

Angry voice of the wife is "radiation",

The excited state in which the wife is in and which causes her to shout angrily is "radioactivity",

The angry wife shouting to the husband is "radioactive material" itself.


It would be the same if the shouting party is the husband instead of the wife. But they target women, because, as they say, women are considered to have less understanding of matters related to nuclear technology.

In general, it is what has been expected in Japan for long time - that women are not good at math and science.

Even the so-called "pro-nuke" people are appalled at this clumsy "risk communication" by JAEA.

"What is this? JAEA, what's the matter with you?" was the tweet from a female theoretical physicist.

The JAEA page does say it has come up with the idea by talking with 6 women who live in Hitachinaka City where the JAEA Tokai Research and Development Center is located.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)
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Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: Amaterasu on June 04, 2012, 09:15:22 pm
"Well...  Who gets to invite???  *I*'m inviting Them!  But I guess I don't count.  [shrug]

You don't?


Linda

Well, I don't see Them coming to the rescue...
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: Amaterasu on June 04, 2012, 09:20:09 pm
Careful what you wish for :P They may just comer and decide Hu-mons are not worth the trouble and disinfect the planet  :o

Well, I'm only inviting the "space BROTHERS," not the "space DISINFECTERS."  They can go find another planet to play with.

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Despite what people say about the Russians, that situation was dealt with relatively swiftly. Though they didn't say why, they did evacuate the area fast ( I have the details and the aftermath info in a thread on Chernobyl... well worth the time to see the films)

Did you know they sent 500,000 Red Army soldiers in there to clean up by hand?

On top of that they covered the place in a concrete casket (and are working on a new one to replace the old one now)

In the case of Fukushima... they just let them run wild while telling us nothing to worry about we have it under control. Back at ATS I spent three MONTHS along with a few others reporting live as it happened. That thread is still the all time top thread at ATS. There were a few experts in there and we all knew from just looking at the photos that there were at least THREE reactors in full meltdown

yet there has still been no sarcophagus made to stop the leak...

It was obvious from the beginning that there was NO WAY they had containment because of the type of reactor that pumped the 'hot' water straight to the turbines in a secondary building. The pipes were all broken... how could they have had any containment?

We sent our aircraft carriers to help... (they have enough power plants on board to power a small city) but were told they were not needed... that things were under control... (as two more buildings exploded on live TV)

Thr carriers then high tailed it out of the area because the radioactivity leaking into the sea was so bad that it was effecting the cooling systems of the onboard nuclear power plants. They had to leave the area or risk their own nuke problem

So 15?  I would say closer to 98 :D

Well...  I was trying not to panic People.  [grin]  Yeah.  98 sounds closer to MY estimations when I saw it.
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: Amaterasu on June 04, 2012, 09:28:44 pm
Good thing You got that graphic when You did, Thor.  It's not there now.  I can't read Japanese, so I don't know what it says now, but the impression I get is something like, "Please stand by."
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: Cosmic4life on June 05, 2012, 10:16:44 am
Don't eat Pacific Tuna..in fact don't eat any Pacific fish..

and if your in the Pacific fishing trade start looking for another job.

It won't matter what the Government say's is safe....market forces are going to determine outcome..people just won't eat it or buy it.

This not going to go away..it can only get worse...as more radioactive material seeps into the Ocean the fish will accumulate more until defects appear...then the jig will be up.

Pacific fish prices will plummet...Atlantic fish  prices will rise...

Cosmic..
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: zorgon on June 05, 2012, 11:10:00 am
Saw a National Geo episode of 'Wicked Tuna'  Seems the fishermen catching Blue Fin tuna for sushi are struggling to catch fish.

Shortly after the first release of radiation... when all those  Geiger counters and potassium iodide pills were being scooped up by scared Americans... there was talk that you could use kelp in the same way as the pills.

Only problem was that the California kelp beds were already showing traces of radioactive iodine picked up from the ocean.. And that was in the first months after the event  Imagine what it is like now.

Seaweed lovers beware

Radioactive particles from Japan detected in California kelp
April 9, 2012


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Radioactive particles released in the nuclear reactor meltdown in Fukushima, Japan, following the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami were detected in giant kelp along the California coast, according to a recently published study.

Radioactive iodine was found in samples collected from beds of kelp in locations along the coast from Laguna Beach to as far north as Santa Cruz about a month after the explosion, according to the study by two marine biologists at Cal State Long Beach.

The levels, while most likely not harmful to humans, were significantly higher than measurements prior to the explosion and comparable to those found in British Columbia, Canada, and northern Washington state following the Chernobyl disaster in 1986, according to the study published in March in the journal Environmental Science & Technology.

LA Times (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/calif-kelp-radioactivity-study.html)

Radiation From Japan Disaster Found in Kelp Along California Coast
Apr 10, 2012 6:56pm


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Kelp along the California  coast was found to be contaminated with radioactive material from a nuclear plant damaged in the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami that struck Japan, according to a recent study.

Researchers at California State University, Long Beach  found that the kelp contained radioactive iodine, cesium, xenon and other particles at levels unlikely to be detrimental to human health  but much higher than the amounts measured before the disaster.

The levels were also about the same as those measured in British Columbia and Washington state after the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear power plant explosion.

The researchers  also expressed worry that the radioactivity could have made it into the coastal food chain, although they weren’t sure what impact that could have.

“Radioactivity is taken up by the kelp, and anything that feeds on the kelp will be exposed to this also,” said co-author Steven Manley in a news release.

ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/10/radiation-from-japan-disaster-found-along-calif-coast/)

Seems that main stream media is now finally taking it seriously
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: zorgon on June 05, 2012, 11:21:29 am
For record before it disappears...

Rule number one!!!

Whenever you find a controversial item

ALWAYS SCREEN CAPTURE and save :D

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/Apology_001.png)

Good thing You got that graphic when You did, Thor.  It's not there now.  I can't read Japanese, so I don't know what it says now, but the impression I get is something like, "Please stand by."

Save for records...

http://translate.google.com/

Just paste in a phrase or a website url
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: zorgon on June 05, 2012, 11:25:32 am
A Nuclear Reactor Explained by Poop and Farts: Nuclear Reactor Boy's Tummy Ache

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sakN2hSVxA
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: zorgon on June 05, 2012, 11:30:23 am
Japanese Nuclear Propaganda Cartoon: MUST SEE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw1LYthC4PQ
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: zorgon on June 05, 2012, 11:36:03 am
Being Medieval oriented I used to have a lot of respect for the Japanese system of honor... the old Samurai code...

But after spending three months watching the disaster unfold.. I have lost that respect.

I will post my stuff from that work shortly... I have it as it happened and will be a good record for those who didn't watch it unfold. It was live from NHK Japanese public TV and Al Jazeera... networks that covered up to the minute live coverage

Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: Littleenki on June 05, 2012, 01:43:48 pm
Being Medieval oriented I used to have a lot of respect for the Japanese system of honor... the old Samurai code...

But after spending three months watching the disaster unfold.. I have lost that respect.

I will post my stuff from that work shortly... I have it as it happened and will be a good record for those who didn't watch it unfold. It was live from NHK Japanese public TV and Al Jazeera... networks that covered up to the minute live coverage
It is sad, Zorgon, how the once proud japanese people have been reduced to viewing pablum like that video. Their government has absolutely no respect for their intelligence, and it shows in the current state of affairs in Fukushima.

Ill be looking forward to your post, as most of what I know has been posted by Thor and the news hasnt been any help at all in understanding the real story.

Thanks for your efforts, the japanese have one last chance, and we need to give them all the help we can to eliminate their nuke plants on the fault lines.

Littleenki
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 05, 2012, 09:22:46 am
(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/AUGUST%202012/iwaki_beach_iwaki_fukushima_japan-t2.jpg)

Fukushima reopens beach after nuke crisis (http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/fukushima-re-opens-beach-after-nuke-crisis/story-e6frfkui-1226428145902)

FUKUSHIMA prefecture has opened its first beach to swimmers since last year's nuclear disaster after judging the water to be safe.


(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/AUGUST%202012/japan_AP12071605266_620x350.jpg)

Not everyone agrees with the idea.

About 1000 people descended on Nakoso beach on Monday.

The beach is about 65 kilometres south of the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant, where three reactors melted down after the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami.

The opening was celebrated with beach volleyball games and hula dancers from a nearby spa.


(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/AUGUST%202012/1stfukushimabeachopensjul16.jpg)


Cheers returned to a beach in Fukushima Prefecture for the first time in two years Monday after all bathing beaches in the northeastern Japan prefecture were closed last year after the March 11 earthquake and tsunami and resultant nuclear crisis.

Iwaki city official Joji Kimura says negligible radiation was detected in water at the beach. Airborne radiation was measured at 0.08 microsieverts per hour, far below dangerous levels.

Swimming had been banned at all beaches in Fukushima prefecture since March 2011.

On the Marine Day national holiday, the Nakoso beach in Iwaki was filled with families with children as well as young men and women.

While the prefecture has 17 bathing beaches, Nakoso is the only one that was reopened, because debris disposal and facility restoration have not proceeded well.

Beside the conventional water quality check, the Fukushima prefectural government measured radiation levels in late June. No radioactive cesium was detected in sea water, and air dose rates at the beach were low at up to 0.07 microsievert per hour.

Yosuke Shirado of Iwaki said he is concerned about radiation levels due to the nuclear crisis at Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s disaster-hit Fukushima No. 1 power plant.


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We thinks this fits rather nicely here.


Hiroshima Mayor to Stream Live Hiroshima Peace Declaration in English | House of Japan (http://www.houseofjapan.com/local/hiroshima-mayor-to-stream-live-hiroshima-peace-declaration-in-english)


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Hiroshima Mayor Kazumi Matsui will read this year's Hiroshima Peace Declaration in English on Monday night and the municipal government of the atomic-bombed city will broadcast the event live on the Internet.   

After issuing the declaration in Japanese at Hiroshima's peace memorial ceremony to mark the 67th anniversary of the atomic bombing of the western Japan city on Aug. 6, 1945, Matsui will start reading it in English at 8:15 a.m. Monday CDT, which is 10:15 p.m. the same day JST. The bomb was dropped over Hiroshima at 8:15 a.m. local time.


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The live Internet broadcasting, chiefly targeted at American viewers, is aimed at arousing international opinions toward the goal of eliminating nuclear weapons, Hiroshima officials said, adding the city will stream live an English peace declaration for the fourth consecutive year.   

In the upcoming declaration, Matsui will call for the elimination of nuclear weapons and lasting peace against the backdrop of the Atomic Bomb Dome, the remnants of the building that stood closest to the center of the nuclear blast.   

Messages to people affected by the nuclear accident at Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s Fukushima No. 1 power plant will be included in the declaration.


Lest we forget:



(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/AUGUST%202012/Plume_March28.jpg)


Fukushima Daiichi Radioactive Seawater Update (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=fukushima+radioactive+plume&view=detail&id=641D24760C4234B777E33868AD9434CC81063932&first=71)

Radioactivity levels in the seawater outside of the troubled Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Plant continue to ignite concerns over the spread of highly radioactive material in the surrounding seawater.

From the Washington Post: “Samples taken 360 yards offshore from the plant Friday showed radioactive iodine levels 1,250 times the legal safety limit. The levels of iodine-131 in the water had been closer to 100 times the limit this past week.

Attention has turned to cleaning up stagnant, highly contaminated water found in turbine rooms outside the reactors. Pools of the radioactive water have been found at the plant’s units 1 and 3. Similar standing water at units 2 and 4 is being tested for radioactivity.


(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/AUGUST%202012/Japan-Fukushima-1.jpg)

Japan’s Nuclear Crisis likened to Chernobyl. Asian Markets Dip in Response (image courtesy googlenewslive.com)


"The unusually high rates of radiation found in the turbine rooms —

and now in the ocean

 — have fueled concerns that water may be seeping from at least one of the reactor cores, leaks that could release longer-lasting and much riskier forms of contamination.”

Government officials have stated that they are not sure whether the primary containment vessels have been breached. Experts say it could be from reactors or from cooling pools where used nuclear rods are stored.

Nuclear experts have also suggested that the high levels of radioactivity in the surrounding waters could also be attributed in part to emissions in the air.

Officials continue to stress that contaminants will become diluted as currents carry them farther offshore.

However, the elevated radiation levels in the water pose a serious concern for Japan’s large fishing industry, with the possibility that other countries could impose bans on imports. Fishing has already been banned in the area around the plant.

“I don’t believe the levels we detected today would…cause a direct problem,” Nishiyama said.


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ASR modeling of the radioactive seawater tells a different story, cause for serious alarm. While these models do not estimate levels of radioactivity in the surrounding waters, the assumption that nearby currents will quickly dilute the radioactive material does not appear to be accurate.


(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/AUGUST%202012/Kuroshio.png)


Instead our model shows radioactive sea water slowly drifting south at an average of 0.2 m/s in an low energy area between the Kuroshio Current, the Japan coastline and an large eddy formation further up in the north. 


Update on Thursday, March 31, 2011 by Nick Behunin

The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said that seawater collected roughly 300 yards from the Fukushima Daiichi station was found to contain iodine 131 at

3,355 times the safety standard,


the highest levels reported so far.


(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/AUGUST%202012/fukushima_50.jpg)


On Sunday, a test north of the plant showed 1,150 times the maximum level, while a test one day before showed 1,250 times the limit in seawater taken from a monitoring station at the plant.

Responding to these concerns, ASR Limited, a New-Zealand based marine consulting and research firm, has developed computer models able to accurately predict the spread of the contaminated material.

“We’ve based our simulations on daily updates of the local winds and currents.  This information is then fed in to our model to predict how fast and how far the radioactivity will spread, and what its concentrations will be” Says ASR Scientist Laurent Lebreton who developed the model.

PRESS RELEASE  (http://blog.asrltd.com/storage/ASR_Fukushima_PressRelease.pdf)
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: Littleenki on August 05, 2012, 12:08:13 pm
Good update, Thor, it seems the folks in japan are willing to turn a blind eye to the danger, too bad they dont have a clue...

I also noticed a decrease in seismic activity from the usgs system...a telltale sign or just a slow week..I think they are turning down the gain on the monitors and have sensed another big one is coming...look at the fault just north of Australia...very, very active, and usually the Japanese coast is much more active than that one.

turning off the sensors...sounds like that radiation in Indiana a while back, eh?

Cheers, brother Thor!
Dave
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: petrus4 on August 05, 2012, 12:36:57 pm
There's nothing quite like doom porn, eh guys?  It's exactly what we all need; to read something that's going to cause us to all run outside the front of our houses, screaming hysterically and terrified out of our minds.

Don't bother giving me the standard protest that we need to be informed, either.  Radioactive fallout is one case where us being informed won't help us in the slightest.  It will kill us, either way.

The Divine Wealth consists of 26 attributes

Chapter 16, Verse 1:

1. Fearlessness (Abhayam)

Among the Divine qualities, Fearlessness stands foremost. Fear is an effect of ignorance. Identification with the body causes fear.  Blind attachment to the body, wife, children, house, property etc. is the cause of fear.The sage who has realised the Self is absolutely fearless.
"He who knows the Bliss of Brahman (God) from which words as well as mind turn powerless, fears nothing."  -Taittiriya Upanishad

Fear can be removed by constant thinking of the immortal and all-blissful nature of the Self. If you lead a life of honesty and truthfulness, if you devoutly observe the precepts of the scriptures without doubting, if you lead a life of right conduct, and if you remember God always, you will become fearless.


-- Divine Wealth (http://hinduism.co.za/divine.htm)

[youtube]oowR5vL6oPM[/youtube]

My point, in case anyone is wondering, is that we're going to die anyway.  Having a screaming feargasm about something like Fukishima, carries with it the implicit assumption, that supposedly we'd be immortal, if it wasn't for the occurrence of something like this.

We won't be.

And even more importantly:-

"To change your mood or mental state--change your
    vibration."--The Kybalion.

One may change his mental vibrations by an effort of Will, in the direction of deliberately fixing the Attention upon a more desirable state. Will directs the Attention, and Attention changes the Vibration. Cultivate the Art of Attention, by means of the Will, and you have solved the secret of the Mastery of Moods and Mental States.

    "To destroy an undesirable rate of mental vibration,
    put into operation the principle of Polarity and
    concentrate upon the opposite pole to that which
    you desire to suppress. Kill out the undesirable by
    changing its polarity."--The Kybalion.

This is one of the most important of the Hermetic Formulas. It is based upon true scientific principles. We have shown you that a mental state and its opposite were merely the two poles of one thing, and that by Mental Transmutation the polarity might be reversed. This Principle is known to modern psychologists, who apply it to the breaking up of undesirable habits by bidding their students concentrate upon the opposite quality. If you are possessed of Fear, do not waste time trying to "kill out" Fear, but instead cultivate the quality of Courage, and the Fear will disappear. Some writers have expressed this idea most forcibly by using the illustration of the dark room. You do not have to shovel out or sweep out the Darkness, but by merely opening the shutters and letting in the Light the Darkness has disappeared. To kill out a Negative quality, concentrate upon the Positive Pole of that same quality, and the vibrations will gradually change from Negative to Positive, until finally you will become polarized on the Positive pole instead of the Negative. The reverse is also true, as many have found out to their sorrow, when they have allowed themselves to vibrate too constantly on the Negative pole of things. By changing your polarity you may master your moods, change your mental states, remake your disposition, and build up character. Much of the Mental Mastery of the advanced Hermetics is due to this application of Polarity, which is one of the important aspects of Mental Transmutation. Remember the Hermetic Axiom (quoted previously), which says:

    "Mind (as well as metals and elements) may be transmuted
    from state to state; degree to degree, condition to
    condition; pole to pole; vibration to vibration."--The Kybalion.

The mastery of Polarization is the mastery of the fundamental principles of Mental Transmutation or Mental Alchemy, for unless one acquires the art of changing his own polarity, he will be unable to affect his environment. An understanding of this principle will enable one to change his own Polarity, as well as that of others, if he will but devote the time, care, study and practice necessary to master the art. The principle is true, but the results obtained depend upon the persistent patience and practice of the student.


-- From here (http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/kyb/kyb17.htm).

So you can either be a good little sheep, and become a delicious fear battery on cue for the STS cabal, or you can get ahead of the game.  Why do you think Fukishima even happened in the first place?  Nothing occurs by accident. 

Nothing.
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: Amaterasu on August 05, 2012, 06:53:13 pm
Consider this...  Scientists (yeah, I know, "scientists") have shown that radioactive material does not decay while We (Consciousness) observes it.  (The fact that it does while only electronic observance and recording are keeping watch should clue Us into something here, I think...)

Could it be that positive thoughts can affect an accident like this?  Obviously Consciousness can have a direct affect on radioactivity.

(In case You had not heard, several studies have found that if They watch radioactive material with Conscious Observers 'round the clock, radioactive materials will not decay.)

*I* manifest the thought that all those particles that touch higher Consciousness's flesh (with a strong push for lower, too) will sit inert.  I'll be thrilled if Others join in this manifesting.  [smile]
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: petrus4 on August 06, 2012, 01:13:26 am
*I* manifest the thought that all those particles that touch higher Consciousness's flesh (with a strong push for lower, too) will sit inert.  I'll be thrilled if Others join in this manifesting.  [smile]

I'll go even further, Amaterasu.  I've heard Bashar repeatedly make the statement that with such things as Fukishima, individuals who do not hear about them, will literally not be affected by them at all.  So-called, "ostrich syndrome," actually isn't as negative a thing as conventional wisdom suggests.

Bashar has been observably correct about other things, in my experience; so I'm going to trust him on this one, as well.  I refuse to focus on Fukishima.  I'm not going to think about it at all.
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: zorgon on August 06, 2012, 01:27:31 am
And yet...

...your posting in a Fukushima thread  :P


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Toons/ostrich.jpg)
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: SarK0Y on August 16, 2012, 02:45:12 pm
I'll go even further, Amaterasu.  I've heard Bashar repeatedly make the statement that with such things as Fukishima, individuals who do not hear about them, will literally not be affected by them at all.  So-called, "ostrich syndrome," actually isn't as negative a thing as conventional wisdom suggests.

Bashar has been observably correct about other things, in my experience; so I'm going to trust him on this one, as well.  I refuse to focus on Fukishima.  I'm not going to think about it at all.
simple example: many victims of car accidents didn't notice any $hit b4 f*King crash  ;)
-------------

Amicus, +5 ;D
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 16, 2012, 03:06:55 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uGnmIa3eAk
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: SarK0Y on September 16, 2012, 06:04:02 pm
[youtube]-uGnmIa3eAk[/youtube]
yes, Japan is 1st culprit at the. Nevertheless, what about local sources of radiation? perhaps gov gonna cover up something in backyard?  i don't have valuable numbers but seems significant level of radiation can't be produced Just by Fukushima. maybe i'm wrong... Anyway, out the has to be running more  scrupulous scrutiny.
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 23, 2012, 07:08:47 am
(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/JapanRadiationfoundBluefin_zps16b1a9e4.png)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GRlYlDYfAQ
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on February 13, 2013, 05:14:37 pm
Fish caught near Fukushima shows more than 2,500 times legal radiation limit for human consumption (http://www.naturalnews.com/038887_Fukushima_fish_radiation.html)

30 January 2013

(NaturalNews) The two-year anniversary of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster is rapidly approaching, and the waters around the crippled plant are still highly contaminated with radiation, according to new reports.

A fish caught as part of an ongoing Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) seafood monitoring program recently tested at levels of 254,000 becquerels per kilogram (Bq/kg) of radioactive cesium, or roughly 2,540 times higher than the maximum legal limit of 100 Bq/kg established by the government for seafood.

The contaminated fish, which has been dubbed "Mike the Murasai," was caught in ocean waters fairly close to the shuttered plant nearly 24 months after the catastrophe, raising fresh concerns about the safety of seafood off the coast of Japan.

Though the fish itself did not show visible signs of deformation or other radiation-induced damage, according to reports,

the level of radiation detected in its tissue is high enough to suggest that the Fukushima plant is more than likely still releasing extremely high levels of nuclear radiation directly into the ocean.

In response, TEPCO says it is planning to install an extensive series of nets beneath the surface of the waters surrounding the still-damaged plant, which will cover a radius of about 20 kilometers, or roughly 12.5 miles.

This netting is intended to trap other contaminated fish and prevent them from migrating too far from the plant.

Many experts worry that deposits of radioactive cesium and other nuclear chemicals are continuing to build up on the ocean floor, and that Murasai, which are feeder fish for other sea species, will inadvertently contaminate other fish species, and potentially even fisheries.


Radiation levels actually appear to be increasing around Fukushima

The high levels of radiation detected in Mike the Murasai would not necessarily be as big of a concern if they were less than previously detected levels. But according to reports, the 254,000 Bq/kg of cesium identified is nearly 10 times higher than the amount detected in scorpion fish caught last August, suggesting that radiation pollution is increasing in the area, despite continued reassurances by TEPCO and government officials that the situation is under control.

It was also confirmed back in November by the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI), an independent oceanographic research institution based in the U.S., that nearly half of all sea creatures living in the waters near the Fukushima plant are still contaminated with levels of radioactive cesium that greatly exceed government safety limits. And as the radioactive particles continue to sink in ocean waters, the problem is only expected to worsen, particularly for bottom-feeding fish.

"We can't sell any of these fish," explained Kozo Endo, a local fisherman, about the dire situation. "We can only catch them for radiation sampling. Those that are left over -- well, all of us working on the boat take them home to eat."

Both TEPCO and the Japanese government continue to change their respective stories surrounding the disaster.

In the past, the two entities tried to deny that Fukushima was still leaking radiation into the ocean.

After this was shown to be false, they then tried to claim that radiation levels were minimal, and that particles were sinking into the ocean floor where they would be unable to cause further damage.

Now, the story has changed again, and TEPCO is allegedly taking more drastic measures to contain radioactive fish.

Sources for this article include:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk

http://www.huffingtonpost.com

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3636314.htm
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: zorgon on February 13, 2013, 05:30:53 pm
Well since the 'hot stuff' is still in the ground I would expect continual increase..

But glowing fishies on the shores of Japan do look pretty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTqKj-1ubu8
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: zorgon on February 13, 2013, 05:37:30 pm
One really has to wonder about the SANITY of reporters these days...

Radioactive Tuna Won’t Kill You—but Should We Be Concerned About Mercury?

Quote
May 30, 2012 4:45 AM EDT
A new study showing that radioactive tuna have swum from Japan to California has fish lovers up in arms, but other ocean contaminants like mercury are greater cause for concern. Daniel Stone reports.

Quote
It was enough to make anyone who has ever eaten seafood, especially tuna, feel a small flop in their stomach over Memorial Day weekend, when a new study from the National Academies of Science showed that radioactive tuna was showing up off the coast of California. The levels of radioactive cesium and potassium were elevated, and the source was unmistakable. Even back-of-the-envelope calculations could prove that the behemoth bluefin tuna species had come from Japanese waters after the catastrophic nuclear meltdown at Fukushima last year.

There were a lot of reasons to be instantly concerned. Radiation poisoning went through the media panic machine last year after the meltdown, and now it was back. And not just in our air or leeching into our ocean, but potentially showing up on our plate.

Yet despite the breathless hand-wringing, it turns out our food is safe. “People become terribly anxious about this subject, sometimes needlessly so,” says Nicholas Fisher, the Stony Brook University researcher behind the study.

The bluefin arriving on the shores of California won’t kill you. In fact they won’t even make you sick, according to guidelines from the Food and Drug Administration and other environmental regulators. For one thing, Americans hardly eat imperiled bluefin tuna at all. Nearly 80 percent of the world’s annual catch goes straight to Japan. The rest shows up only in the fanciest of fancy sushi restaurants. Even eating several pounds of Pacific bluefin wouldn't make you sick, reports Ken Buesseler, a radionuclide researcher with the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. “It’s very much not a level to be concerned about.”

And it’d set you back, too. A small piece of sashimi can easily cost $24. (Earlier this year, an 800-pound bluefin fetched nearly $750,000). But in terms of radiation, you could get there a lot faster. To the throngs of reporters covering the bluefin story, Stanford researcher Daniel Madigan has a colorful way of explaining it: you’d get more radioactive potassium from a banana than you would from a bluefin that came from Japan.

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Still, FDA officials scrambled to silence the alarm. The agency doesn’t test much Bluefin, but since April 2011, government inspectors have tested all seafood imports to the U.S. that originate in or near Japanese waters. Of 1,299 samples taken, more than 99 percent have shown up clear of radiation. The other 1 percent was below “actionable” government levels.

(http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2012/05/30/radioactive-tuna-won-t-kill-you-but-should-we-be-concerned-about-mercury/_jcr_content/body/inlineimage.img.503.jpg/1338346949902.cached.jpg)
How safe is your tuna? A fish market worker cuts bluefin to supply to sushi restaurants. (Emmanuel Dunand / AFP-Getty Images)

Radioactive Tuna (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/30/radioactive-tuna-won-t-kill-you-but-should-we-be-concerned-about-mercury.html)

Stuff like this makes me glad I put in a Pantry. We did it to save money buy buying when stuff was on sale, but in this case we bought a few cases of canned tuna at 45 cents a can BEFORE Fukushima  :D  I think I feel the urge for a TUNA SANDWICH
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: sky otter on February 13, 2013, 06:49:29 pm


hey zorg.. is that really japan ?????  or did you just steal a pic from carl?
enquiring minds, ya know...


(http://i75.servimg.com/u/f75/13/55/53/83/lake-g10.jpg)


(http://i75.servimg.com/u/f75/13/55/53/83/lake-g11.jpg)

Gippsland is a large rural region in Victoria, Australia. The place is well known with its mystery of blue glowing water that appears during the night. However, just recently, the mystery has been solved. Lake Gippsland (actually a network of lakes) teems with microorganisms that produce a ghostly blue glow thanks to their natural luminescence. This makes this body of water a beautiful and unique tourist attraction at night. See the pictures if you don’t believe me. It is truly mesmerizing!

http://www.akademifantasia.org/australia/gippsland-lake-australias-blue-mystery/
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: zorgon on February 13, 2013, 07:15:40 pm
How The Glowing Firefly Squid of Japan Produces Its Shine

(http://www.chicagonow.com/greenamajigger/files/2012/04/glowing-squid.jpg)

http://www.chicagonow.com/greenamajigger/2012/04/how-the-glowing-firefly-squid-of-japan-produces-its-shine/

So...

Japan says "Glowing Squid..."

Australia says "Glowing Bacteria..."

Zorgon might as well say "Cherencov Radiation"   

(http://formaementis.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/advanced_test_reactor.jpg?w=479)

 ;D   8)   ::)

Seems everything is glowing
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: sky otter on February 13, 2013, 07:21:37 pm


ah yes

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1019.0



hahahahahahahahahah
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: zorgon on February 13, 2013, 07:22:39 pm
Seafood 2013

Sardines...

(http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/picture_this/public/2012/10/04/2011/08/03/142468-fluorescent-animals.jpg)

Calamari...

(http://www.okeanosgroup.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/GlowingFish_jpg.jpg)

Sushi...

(http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/485655050/LED_glowing_fish_night_light.jpg)
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: zorgon on February 13, 2013, 07:25:08 pm
hahahahahahahahahah

been there done that but we could add these to that page too :D
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: sky otter on February 13, 2013, 07:33:02 pm


yeah those japanese have been at it for a bit
it takes me forever to do pic so you'll hafta go to the link

05.27.09
The first genetically modified primates that can pass their modifications to their offpsring have been created by Japanese scientists.

The marmosets, pictured above, express a green fluorescent protein in their skin. The gene for producing the glow was delivered to the first marmoset embryos via a modified virus. But now that modification method could become unnecessary. One male marmoset, number 666, fathered a child (pictured at right) that also contained the transgenes.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/glowing-monkeys-make-more-glowing-monkeys-the-old-fashioned-way/
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 27, 2013, 05:14:50 pm
Updated 1 February 2015

Very funny. TPTB delete the source video but there are backups.   :P

[youtube]kf66vQQdlcE[/youtube]

? 100% of tuna now radioactive from Fukushima - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf66vQQdlcE)
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: Amaterasu on September 27, 2013, 06:27:35 pm
Guess I won't be buying tuna for the kitties anymore.
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 16, 2013, 08:30:20 pm
[youtube]U6qpc4OsrSM[/youtube]

Canada : Thousands of Starfish Melting on the Ocean Floor off the Pacific West Coasts (Oct 27, 2013) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6qpc4OsrSM)

Published on Oct 27, 2013
SOURCE: http://www.king5.com

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/think_about_it-500.jpg)
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 16, 2013, 10:06:10 pm
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/permanent_nuclear_war-640.jpg)


‘Unprecedented’: China bans all imports of shellfish from U.S. West Coast (http://enenews.com/unprecedented-china-bans-all-imports-of-shellfish-from-u-s-west-coast-official-theyve-never-done-anything-like-that-that-ive-ever-seen-includes-washington-oregon-a)
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: spacemaverick on December 28, 2013, 04:17:34 pm
Saw an article in the paper from Florida Today newspaper about the melting seastars on the West Coast.  It said the scientist could not find out what the problem is that they were just wasting away.  They said the same thing was happening to the more delicate sea creatures.  The scientist mentioned all sorts of possible maladies but radiation.  Well, hello!  I had to comment and put in my 2 cents.  I said, have you considered radiation poisoning?  All I heard crickets chirping.
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: Cosmic4life on January 22, 2014, 09:31:00 am
So .... now we are here in Jan 2014 .... the Pacific Ocean is rapidly becoming a Dead Pool.

From the bottom up ... the food chain is collapsing .... this year will see the drastic reduction in Whale populations as well as other predatory species ... it may even be the demise of some Whale species.

With that will come the complete collapse of all Pacific fishing industries ... with the possible exception of Crabs and Lobsters , they are having a Banquet and so we may see an explosion in their populations ... but as they are bottom feeders they will accumulate Radioactive elements at an accelerated speed ... is anyone actually monitoring the Crab and Lobster populations ?

And yet ... watching mainstream media ... not a squeak ... not even a whimper .... they must be getting paid a LOT of money to keep up the stony silence for so long.

Wars have been fought over less resources .... and here we are with the entire Pacific in jeopardy ... the blow-back will be huge when the crisis point becomes obvious to all.

I can barely contain my anger at TEPCO and the Japanese Government .... so careless ... so inept ... so deceitful.

C..
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: spacemaverick on January 22, 2014, 11:11:31 am
Maybe this is the way the elite want it to be.  Will this kill off some people and reduce the population to the 500 million level they want?  Then they will eat their genetically modified food, live in their castles / bunkers.  You will have the haves and have nots but no one in between.  Seems like we are going back to feudal times.  Or are they trying to reduce panic in the sheep?  Just more questions...wish I knew why mainstream media don't speak up.  It's hard to tell.  Even my friends for the most part don't seem to care.  They don't want to hear any negative.  Too interested in their football games and sports and just enjoying themselves and don't want to hear any negativity.  I can understand but they need to at least be aware and they don't want to know at all.  Human nature itself will be our demise if people do not wake up.  Zorgon in another thread spoke of human tolerance.  He was right, how much will each of us tolerate without action.  How much will it take to wake up people.  I'm afraid people have gotten use to crisis management.
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 28, 2014, 01:47:50 pm
Uranium dust used as pesticide
on export food crops in Tanzania

Tanzania Produce Grown With Uranium Dust (http://nuclear-news.net/2012/11/12/breaking-imports-from-tanzania-grown-with-uranium-dust-from-uranium-mining-for-global-supermarkets-uk-and-india-effected/)

Uranium dust used as pesticide in Tanzania: urgent need to stop this

'Action needed’ on uranium use in Tanzania, DW 11 Nov 12,
Reports say Tanzanian farmers have used uranium dust as a pesticide. Immediate inspections are needed, says Ute Koczy, a member of the German parliament and Green Party spokeswoman on development issues.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/uranium_resources__tanzania_map.png)


DW: Tanzanian media have reported that local farmers have used uranium dust to protect their crops. When you found out about this, you wrote an open letter to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) as well as the president and prime minister of Tanzania. What did you call for in the letter?

http://nuclear-news.net/2012/11/12/uranium-dust-used-as-pesticide-in-tanzania-urgent-need-to-stop-this/

The production of fresh produce in Africa for?export to the United Kingdom: October 2006

Tanzania exports a relatively small volume of vegetables to the UK (Figure 8.1) concentrated on five products, although green beans represent the major export by far, with year on growth since 2003 (Figure 8.2). Tanzania does not export any significant volumes of fruit, although cashews are listed under fruit and nut exports (HTS 0802), with exports predominantly to India.


Tanzania was the United States' 129th largest supplier of goods imports in 2013.

U.S. goods imports from Tanzania totaled $70 million in 2013, down 38.8% ($45 million) from 2012, but up 190.2 % from 2003.

The five largest import categories in 2013 were:

Spices, Coffee and Tea (coffee) ($23 million),
Precious Stones (gemstones) ($20 million),
Knit Apparel ($10 million),
Lac and Vegetable Saps (pectates) ($5 million),
and Miscellaneous Grain, Seed, Fruit (seaweeds) ($3 million).


"The probe comes in the wake of rumors that some farmers from the two regions are using uranium dust as pesticides to preserve cereals and agricultural produce."

"…foodstuffs preserved with uranium dust are harmful for human consumption as they can cause cancer related diseases."
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: WhatTheHey on June 28, 2014, 05:10:41 pm
 :o  My oh my, Melting starfish, glowing tunas, well at least the fishermen will be able to see the tuna better!  :'(

  Does this mean the tuna will be precooked?

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n240/acwus1/GLOWINGTUNAS_zpse1a560a1.jpg)

  I know this is a very nasty thing happening to our planet.  But it's always good to try and have a chuckle. At least while there seems to be nothing we can do.

WhatTheHey





Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 16, 2014, 06:57:19 pm
[youtube]GwIRJPlb7Jg[/youtube]

16:28 Fukushima breaking news;;;;
2015 the ART of Survival WALK;; POST IGNORANCE - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwIRJPlb7Jg)

Published on Dec 9, 2014
The POST IGNORANCE battalion, 801-452-1908
http://youtu.be/sHkqSu-E2-Y?list=PLGh...
http://www.thepostignoranceproject.com/

Any of you want to compare PHD's bring it on;;;
not only eat sleep drink this my entire life,
I NOW SLEEP WITH IT
ACUTE LEUKEMIA
GIVEN 2 MThs to live on 10/13/11;;;;;;;
Physical literature;;;;;;;;
on BALCO, the PACIFIC GENOCIDE BY kevin d. blanch,
THE NEW LONGEST WALK;;
will go on for hundreds of generations NOW,
thanks to the NUCLEAR CARTEL,
AND THE NUCLEAR WHORES THAT COVERED FOR THEM,,,

http://youtu.be/OaeJ5I81AAo

http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-...
“I have a tale to tell
Sometimes it gets so hard to hide it well
I was not ready for the fall
Too blind to see the writing on the wall
A man can tell a thousand lies
I've learned my lesson well
Hope I live to tell
The secret I have learned, 'till then
It will burn inside of me
I know where beauty lives
I've seen it once, I know the warmth she gives
The light that you could never see
It shines inside, you can't take that from me”

MADONNA, . / LEONARD, PATRICK
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 18, 2014, 08:02:05 pm
[youtube]zII-vwPXnn8[/youtube]

Fukushima News 11/27/14: Officials Covering Up-Radiation Near California Already Exceeds Expectations - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zII-vwPXnn8)

Published on Nov 27, 2014
Fukushima Engineer: Officials covering up how badly groundwater is contaminated
— Scientist: “We’re measuring higher levels off Japan”
— Radiation near California already exceeds expectations, will be rising for years to come
— TV: “Cleanup can’t be done… They lied from the start, Tepco is a den of inequity” (VIDEOS)
http://enenews.com/fukushima-engineer...
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 18, 2014, 09:34:03 pm
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/fuku_water_640.png) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/fuku_water_big.png)
(Click photo for large view)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/fukushimatanks_640.jpg) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/fukushimatanks.jpg)
(Click photo for large view)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs9yD7jneRY

Fukushima "No More Seafood For You"

Published on Dec 14, 2013
The truth about Fukushima and things have only gotten worse.
They Poison our Water, (Fluoride)
They Poison our Food (Chemicals & GMO's)
They Poison our Air (Chemtrails)
They involve us in Wars (Everywhere)
They Kill our Fish (Fukushima, 60 more plants on that soon to be destitute Island)
And you doubt there's a Depopulation Agenda,

Really?
This is the only issue we should be talking about?
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on February 01, 2015, 02:50:51 pm
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Magazine Editor’s Final Words: Fukushima exponentially more dire than Chernobyl — Deteriorating plant threatens mass extinction around world (http://enenews.com/magazine-editors-final-words-fukushima-exponentially-dire-chernobyl-deteriorating-plant-threatens-mass-extinction-around-world-made-deep-impression-recently-obligation-be-aware-conditions-aud?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ENENews+%28Energy+News%29)

Guy Crittenden (http://www.hazmatmag.com/columns/three-things-watch-ponder-2014-ends), editor of HazMat Management magazine and Solid Waste & Recycling magazine
(Part of the EcoLog Environmental Resources Group (http://www.ecolog.com/about/), “Canada’s leading publisher of print and electronic environmental, occupational health and safety, workers’ compensation news, legislation and compliance solutions – Subscribers include environmental health and safety managers, engineers, executives and lawyers in all industry sectors and government”):

Dec 11, 2014 (emphasis added)

   •   [After a quarter-century, this is] my last article written as Editor of HazMat Management magazine [and] Solid Waste & Recycling magazine

   •   Instead of a long article about what transpired in 2014 and what may be ahead, I’m going to offer readers three items… that have made a deep impression on me recently; these are “must watch” items for anyone interested in helping our species avoid peril from environmental degradation

   •   The deteriorating status of things at the destroyed nuclear plant at Fukushima, Japan… you have an obligation, really, to be aware of conditions there

   •   [There is a] very real and present threat from the… highly radioactive… destroyed cores of the reactors, as well as things like the storage of contaminated water in hastily-built, rusting containers

   •   This is serious stuff… an actual meltdown of the reactors — real China Syndrome stuff — as had been assumed would never likely happen in a modern reactor

   •   The situation is exponentially more dire than Chernobyl

   •   [Workers must] remove the rods for safe containment without having them contact one another and trigger a fire, the consequences of which would be unimaginable — We’re talking mass extinction around the world, especially in the northern hemisphere

   •   Most people have forgotten the situation and think of it only as a local Japanese problem

   •   It’s only a matter of time before another earthquake or tidal wave triggers such an event


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/tokyo3eyeoverlay_580.jpg)
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on February 01, 2015, 04:30:18 pm
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Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 09, 2015, 08:34:40 pm
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Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 24, 2018, 04:53:39 pm
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Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: spacemaverick on June 24, 2018, 08:45:53 pm
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Wow, it's been a long time....
Title: Re: "NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
Post by: Irene on June 25, 2018, 09:23:10 am
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Wow, it's been a long time....
Not in terms of radioactive decay.  :P ;D