I also would like to know where these artifacts were discovered? and what are their names?Me too. I don't recall seeing these artefacts before.
Me too. I don't recall seeing these artefacts before.
I hope they are legit. If so then we have to find their age and place of origin. They look almost too good to be true....
I'd post them in UFO and Aliens too mate. The more people who read this the more chance you have of getting the information you want.
You need to google...klaus Dona.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE-Ya4v27RY
hobbit
Despite being a video of Klaus Dona, I dont see where it applies in this thread. Dont mean to sound rude here, but I researched it on google about this specific subject and what I found was posted in the OP.
So, if you find more information about this very artifacts, please let me know. :)
You need to google...klaus Dona.That pyramid also looks, suspiciously, too good to be true if you catch my drift. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE-Ya4v27RY
hobbit
That pyramid also looks, suspiciously, too good to be true if you catch my drift. ;)
..i thought he had a web site but right now i can't find it..i'll keep lookinghttp://www.unsolved-mysteries.info/english/e_unsolved_mysteries3.htm
I make my living as an antique dealer, You just don't happen across the amount this guy does, of whatever.I agree. However, if you are interested in this stuff then people do contact you when they have finds. We can only look into it and dismiss it if it's BS.
i think at 12:07 right before nassium says the guy shouldn't be recording
Klaus is ask where this artifact came from ...he clearly says south america
Nassim would IMO not just present something not considered genuine when it meets something physical.
Originally posted by Human_Alien
OP, this was in the comment on YouTube:
Klaus mentions, in? German, that the pieces are of Central American origin, is there any information regarding their approximate date of creation?
MisterMumps 1 week ago
Just throwing a couple of thoughts here:
The no recording comment seems to me at least to be made on the basis that they had a visual documentation crew present. I say that because I'm presently waiting on a DVD from the States in regards to a presentation which would be of similar nature to this one on youtube.
Well, if this is the case, maybe something more will come in the future about this. Hope so, because its a interisting case.
I wonder why it is that Nassim Haramein has involved himself in this project but also in certain forms of " mind control" with some of his companions
Hmmmm very interesting. I was wondering the same thing.
I also stumbled upon the "Thrive" movie trailer, and found some
interesting connections. I suppose I should make a thread on it,
as I am not wanting to bog this one down with all of that.
However, its interesting, very interesting.
I'll have check for you Russo regarding the DVD company, but it seems there is a group of people that go around and record such events. Really hard to tell for now till I see the mail out in the case I've been following.
One thing though..If that Nassim huy has the answers to all..why aint he building anything ?
It will however, genuine or not, be ridiculed for a long time...? ::)
Russo I found the link to a conference recording service. Not sure if they would have it, but its worth a peek :)
http://www.ncrsusa.com/
You need to google...klaus Dona.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE-Ya4v27RY
hobbit
I gave You gold for this - despite the comment about My heartthrob, Nassim. [grin] Question: Are those "recently released objects" We're looking at in that film in another thread proven fake?
I had not read anywhere that Nassim was promoting fakes. Guess I'll have to dig.
If that Video is for real, visually it does appear to be a comet and not a planet...so I don't see how he can claim it was Nibiru.
But it appears to be the biggest object that I have ever seen in the Solar system other than the Sun...Surely more would had been seen at that time !
Explanation: As Comet NEAT flared last week, the Sun roared. Just as the comet swooped inside the orbit of Mercury and developed a long and flowing tail of gas and dust, the Sun emitted a huge Coronal Mass Ejection (CME). Neither the fortuitous hot ball of solar gas nor the intense glare of sunlight appeared to disrupt the comet's nucleus. The action was too close to the Sun to be easily visible by humans, but the orbiting Sun-pointing SOHO satellite had a clear view of the celestial daredevil show. The above image was taken on February 18 when the comet was so bright it created an artificial horizontal streak on the camera image. During the encounter, Comet NEAT, official designation (C/2002 V1), brightened to second magnitude. An opaque disk blocked the Sun's image. The now-outbound comet remains bright but will surely fade as it moves away from the Sun. Nevertheless, Comet NEAT will likely be visible with binoculars to southern hemisphere observers for the next month.
What could happen if a large comet collided with the Sun..Is it a large snowball that would melt :-) , or is there large solid planet like matter within it.
I had given up on stories of Nibiru after following Marshall Masters upto 2009.
If you Have known about this Nassim for some time..I wonder if Overall how had you found him making false claims...or has he appeared legit at times for certain things.
Could he have created a false video...or would that seem too difficult to do for such visual effects !
Terrifying if it is true...and to think of what has happened and what effects on the Solar system / Earth are or would be hard to believe if we survived it.
Has the rotation of the Planet or earths orbit slowed down ?
I gave You gold for this - despite the comment about My heartthrob, Nassim. [grin] Question: Are those "recently released objects" We're looking at in that film in another thread proven fake?
I had not read anywhere that Nassim was promoting fakes. Guess I'll have to dig.
Featuring David Icke and Nassim Harramein. Newly uncovered Mayan glyphs in Calakmul, Mexico have revealed some amazing extraterrestrial imagery as well as information on stargates and an apparent incoming comet which appears to be diverted by a UFO. Find out what it’s all about here!
Nassim Haramein (born November 20, 1962) is a Swiss-born scientist known for developing a unified field theory based on the origin of spin/angular momentum defined as a "spacetime torque" which is integral to his "Holofractographic Universe". This unification theory, developed with physicist Elizabeth Rauscher Ph.D., is known as the Haramein-Rauscher metric and is a new solution to Einstein’s Field Equations that incorporates torque and Coriolis effects interacting with a polarized geometric structured vacuum. Further, he and Dr. Rauscher have developed a Scaling Law for Organized Matter, which characterizes all matter from subatomic to galactic and universal size as various size black holes.
Haramein has spent most of his life researching the fundamental geometry of hyperspace, studying a variety of fields from theoretical physics, cosmology, quantum mechanics, biology and chemistry to anthropology and Ancient Stargate Artifacts and Maya 2012 Correlation | in5d.comarchaeology. As a result of his early athletic interest in the ski and climbing industry, he combined this knowledge with a keen observation of the behavior of nature, and discovered a specific geometric array that he found to be fundamental to creation, and the foundation for his Unified Field Theory emerged.
Murals found inside a pyramid at the ancient Maya site of Calakmul, Mexico, cast a whole new light on Mayan daily life and language.
Researchers excavated a tunnel into what looked like a burial mound from the outside, but turned out to be a buried pyramid. Inside they found multiple layers of pyramids built on top of each other, with a set of excellently preserved paintings of quotidian Mayan activities.
The images on the mural show people engaged in mundane activities, such as preparing food. Hieroglyphic captions accompany each image, labeling each individual. In each case the term “aj,” meaning “person,” is used and followed by the word for a foodstuff or material. For example, the terms “aj ul” (”maize-gruel person”) shows a man with a large pot, dish and spoon with another man drinking from a bowl, and the term “aj mahy” (tobacco person) depicts two men, one holding a spatula and the other a pot that likely holds a form of the tobacco leaf.
Such scenes have never been seen in surviving Mayan paintings before, though some parts of quotidian Mayan culture have survived through the ages with the remaining Mayan populations) and the hieroglyphs for some words (such as “tobacco” and “maize-gruel”) were already known. Other hieroglyphs, though, were new to researchers — of particular importance were finding the words for maize itself and salt, which were known to be key staples of the Mayan diet.
Thanks, zorg, for that. I agree it all is a bit fishy. I am not so captivated by Nassim that I would not see fishiness around Him. [grin]
The Mexican government is releasing state-held secrets about the end of the Mayan calendar to the makers of a documentary, "Revelations of the Mayans 2012 and Beyond," TheWrap has learned. The information -- protected for 80 years -- is expected to reveal Mayan beliefs in future catastrophes and wisdom characterized as "shocking," producer Raul Julia-Levy, son of actor Raul Julia, told TheWrap. The end of the Mayan calendar in December 2012 has long given rise to theories and speculation about the end of the world. The agreement will allow Julia-Levy to film in never-before-seen locations.
At one point, Rosado was quoted in a press release talking about contact between the Mayans and extraterrestrials. That statement has been recalled, and Rosado now paints this as a simpler, more archaeological-oriented documentary. "At the moment, talk of the Mayans is a big thing," Rosado said. "We've counted over 3 million websites talking about the end of the Mayan calendar, and we have been contacted by a lot of producers who want to come and film on our sites." The project is similar in some ways to a novel Julia-Levy was writing, variously entitled "Chronicles of the Mayan Tunnel" and "Secrets of the Mayan Time Machine." He and co-producer Elbert were also going to make a 3D movie from that novel starring him and Wesley Snipes, he said in the summer of 2010.
ICA, Peru—At first sight, the small Peruvian town of Ica, situated in the Nazca Desert about 5 hours by bus from Lima, has nothing extraordinary to offer. But after one step into Museo Cabrera, a museum that houses engraved stones of Ica, a different world emerges.
Over 10,000 stones of varying sizes fill the museum. They all have a black, smooth surface on which figures are engraved. Lifting them, you would find them much heavier than everyday stones of similar size.
Dr. Javier Cabrera Darquea, who collected and studied the stones for 37 years, got a small stone as a gift for his birthday. Surprised by its weight and design, he started collecting and studying the stones.
Eugenia Cabrera C., director of the museum and daughter of Dr. Cabrera, said that her father conducted an analysis on the stones and found that they are a common type of rock called andesite, coated with a special layer on the surface, which made them black and smooth and probably gave them the extra weight.
He speculated that the layer may have been soft at first, which allowed people to draw the figures on it, and later became hard. To this day, the coating is still on the stones, allowing us to see the figures.
Peruvian physician Javier Cabrera Darquea was presented with a stone that had a carved picture of what Cabrera believed to be an extinct fish by a friend for his 42nd birthday in 1966.[3] Having an interest in Peruvian prehistory, Cabrera began collecting them. This supplemented an existing collection of stones gathered by his father from their plantation in the 1930s. Cabrera's collection burgeoned, reaching more than 10,000 stones in the 1970s. Cabrera published a book, The Message of the Engraved Stones of Ica on the subject, discussing his theories of the origins and meaning of the stones.
Though Cabrera's collection is the largest, other collections exist or existed as well.
In 1973 Uschuya confirmed that he had forged the stones he gave to Cabrera during an interview with Erich von Däniken, copying the images from comic books, text books and magazines but later recanted that claim during an interview with a German journalist, saying that he had claimed they were a hoax to avoid imprisonment for selling archaeological artifacts. In 1977, during the BBC documentary Pathway to the Gods, Uschuya produced an Ica stone with a dentist's drill and claimed to have produced the patina by baking the stone in cow dung. The Ica stones achieved popular interest when Cabrera abandoned his medical career and opened a museum to feature several thousand of the stones in 1996. That same year, another BBC documentary was released with a skeptical analysis of Cabrera's stones, and the newfound attention to the phenomenon prompted Peruvian authorities to arrest Uschuya, as Peruvian law prohibits the sales of archaeological discoveries. Uschuya recanted his claim that he had found them and instead admitted they were hoaxes, saying "Making these stones is easier than farming the land." He also said that he had not made all the stones. He was not punished, and continued to sell similar stones to tourists as trinkets. The stones continued to be made and carved by other artists as forgeries of the original forgeries.[
The stones have been used by some creationists to show evidence of humans living in proximity with dinosaurs; believers in ancient astronauts as evidence of a lost, advanced civilization brought to man from other planets; and mytho-historians claiming them as evidence that ancient myths are accurate histories
Seamanship goes way back in my family history... ( I live on the Ocean full time )... If anybody ever gets a door working between here and Atlantis, I could really use a ride home! lol ;)
One more piece from the lecture:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZXHviYiGKj4[/youtube]
"Blossom River Group represents a collection of approximate 50 pieces of antiquities which are between 4,000 to 12,000 years old. Three of these relics are in a museum in United States. Additionally, certain pieces from this collection are available for an auction sale by appointment.
The ownership has been established by family inheritance for over 150 years. The origin of these artifacts are unknown as you will see as you read the investigative reports that have been done on these artifacts. It appears that these relics were found in the American continent most likely Mesoamerica."
The origin of these artifacts are unknown as you will see as you read the investigative reports that have been done on these artifacts. It appears that these relics were found in the American continent most likely Mesoamerica.
It is believe that the relics were found somewhere in Mesoamerica over 150 years ago when a native farm worker spotted a strange object hovering near a mountain and with astonishment he watch the object land and observed 7 strange creatures appeared from the hovering object and removed a heavy stone from the mountain without touching it. These seven creatures entered the cave in the mountain and after several hours they departed the mountain site. Immediately this native farm worker informed his boss of this strange occurrence and immediately they set out to investigate this strange phenomena at the mountain site and after several weeks of excavation, and to their amazement they found a deep cave within this mountain. At this site, my client's ancestors found a large collection of relics with strange messages engraved.The land where the antiquities where found as well as the relics were inherited by the owner of these relics and over a year ago he finally decided to scientifically test these relics and bring them out for public display. His collection was transported to the United States in 1963.
Foundation
The relics are in a security vault for safekeeping in Los Angeles California, United States
If you wish to have a representative bring the antiquities to you, a fee is required
For travel within the United States the fee is: $2,500
For travel outside of the United States the fee is : $5,000
This fee will only apply if a representative from Blossom River Group brings the antiquity to you
outside southern California. However you do not need to pay any fee if you visit us in Los Angeles California. Financial contributions derived from these relics will be allocated to help the living conditions of the indigenous people in Latin America
For more information, please contact us by email or telephone..
PAYPAL exhibition fee can be sent to:
relics@blossomrivergroup.com
These studies showed that there were 12 elements that do not correspond to the density that is known on earth and could not be identified.
Dear Mr. Xxxxx, thank you for contacting me concerning the objects shown on the homepage of the Blossomrivergroup. I think I was never in contact with them and I have no possibility to determine the age of an object or the chemical composition.
Years ago I did some X-ray diffraction on objects for an exhibition in Vienna concerning "mysteries"...... but I had no further contact to that crazy people any more.
So what the tell is NOT the truth, sorry to tell you.
I will see that the cacel my name immediately from their homepage.
Originally posted by FlySolo
Klaus said he had them studied in Vienna back in '01 so that backs up your email's claim.
Originally posted by truthrising2012
So are we at the point where the artifacts still need verification of it's origin? What we do know is the Blossom Group website may be selling hoax artifacts but what Klaus has may still be the real deal if i'm correct?
Originally posted by FlySolo at ATS (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread813057/pg9#pid13560106)
ArMap. Take a look at this.
Dear Mr. xxx,
We are updating the scientific page with more definitive information. This should be done by Wednesday of this week. The majority of the studies were done at UNAM in North American and one test was done at the Museum in Vienna. We do have the studies on file. Right now we are doing more extensive testing in the United States. The Location that these relics were found seems to be central America. The artifacts that you are interest in have very special designs which seem to portray planets and far away galaxies.
The appraisal on number 19 is $75M
The appraisal on number 29 is $47M
However you are welcome to make an offer. Should it be accepted then an escrow would be open.
Let me know your level of interest on these relics.
Ms. Johanson
Folks, we're not talking about a few thousand dollars for one of these artifacts. We're talking MILLIONS!!
Millions and millions of dollars!! wow!
Something feels really off about all of this. I mean, I can understand hoaxers getting away with a few of these for cheap for awhile, but for the price tag they are going for? Hmm I'm not so sure.
When millions of dollars are at stake, well this opens up a whole new different level. Are these fake? Who would want to keep people from buying them? Who would want to buy them? This little thread subject just took a real sharp turn. I don't know much about the art industry, well anything actually, but this is serious SH!T. $47,000,000 is reason to kill for, to die for, to lie for.
I just want to add. If fake, then this is a very orchestrated and well organized criminal operation. Or, they will be met by a very organized criminal operation.
At the NATUHISTORI SCHES MUSEUM WIEN in VIENNA AUSTRIA, they only conducted a material test and the result was “kaolin” on one of the relics. Furthermore, a much more profound analysis was also done at UNAM in North America with kaolin on different relics from this collection and it indicated a clay like substance with a chemical composition A1251205 (OH) and it seemed to suggest that it is a silicate in layers
All of the detail scientific studies that are stated were done at UNAM in North America
I make my living as an antique dealer, You just don't happen across the amount this guy does, of whatever.Hey, Hobbit, and you know what the truth is!
He makes a living out of conjuring up these improbable artifacts.
Nasshiem Harramein is akin to a super showman, and was making assumptions based on the visual carvings, then throwing in all the hook lines of wormholes and Einsteins field equations etc etc.
Sorry it was like a circus show.
But I hope they are real, and My ancestors really were tiny little aliens, after all, I am the,
Hobbit
Nassim is a showman yes, but there is also some truth to these artifacts, and the way they are typically presented in the South American science communities is with a big hoopla and to do, with plenty of wild arm waving and adjectives flying.
Some of these look pretty cool...
I will believe there is some truth to the artifacts the minute someone can provide documentation of providence. "Dug up somewhere in Gautamala, Mexico or Equador" just doesn't work for meRusso and I have tried to communicate with Haramein and associates regarding some of these artifacts. They have completely ignored us which speaks volumes to me. ::)
And you have the dig site they came from?