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Earth Sciences => Earth Anomalies => Topic started by: thorfourwinds on April 16, 2012, 06:37:18 pm

Title: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 16, 2012, 06:37:18 pm
Greetings:

Whilst researching U.S. nuclear reactors, CME’s and the possible consequences of of a killshot (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1127.msg11287#msg11287), we noticed an interesting “trend” in worldwide weather, which, taken separately, one-by-one, may seem somewhat insignificant, but when lumped together, a suffering Mother Earth perhaps reveals herself in divergent weather configurations.

We postulate it's all tied together, however, we'll HAARP (http://www.zengardner.com/earth-groans-or-haarp-warfare-the-strange-sound-phenomenon/) on that at another time.

We herewith share some recent 'cries for help' with you, Dear Reader, and invite your comments and participation.


Counter-clockwise storm in the Mediterranean seen from space (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/02/25/counter-clockwise-storm-in-the-mediterranean-seen-from-space/)


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Possible formation of new tropical cyclone near Madagascar (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/02/27/possible-formation-of-new-tropical-cyclone-near-madagascar/)

According to latest alert warning from Joint Typhoon Warning Center (http://www.usno.navy.mil/JTWC/) (JTWC) the formation of a significant tropical cyclone is possible within 200 nm either side of a line from 13.7 S – 53.3 E to 14.9 S – 44.0 E within the next 12 to 24 hours.


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Latest forecast track (Source: La Reunion Tropical Cyclone Center/Meteo-France)


Don’t recall seeing this at all on MSM, do you?


At least 31 people were killed and 250,000 left homeless after Tropical Cyclone Giovanna ripped across Madagascar last week, the disaster management agency said in their report. But the agency warned the toll could still rise.

Of the 686 communities affected by the storm, contact had been restored with only 169.

So far, nearly 250,000 were left homeless after rains and powerful winds swept across the country. 8 clinics and 24 primary schools were destroyed. Another 424 schools and 39 health centres were flooded or damaged.

Bridges, roads and electrical installations were also damaged, and emergency workers were delivering clean water to hard-hit communities.

The disaster agency said Giovanna was as powerful as Tropical Cyclone Geralda, which killed 230 people in 1994. In February 2011, Cyclone Bingiza (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2011/03/02/cyclone-bingiza-destroyed-madagascar/) destroyed Madagascar and killed at least 34 people.




Multiple dust plumes in Sudan (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/02/27/multiple-dust-plumes-in-sudan/)


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The Nile River snakes its way northward through Sudan, taking a big loop to the east before curving back to the west. The river remains discernible throughout its eastern loop in the morning, but by the afternoon, dust has obscured much of that area. Dust over the Red Sea also increases in the afternoon, although skies in the west appear somewhat clearer.  EarthObservatory (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=77257)


Dust storm over the Arabian Sea (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/02/26/dust-storm-over-the-arabian-sea/)


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The Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA’s Aqua satellite acquired this natural-color image on February 22, 2012.


Dust plumes stretched southward over the Arabian Sea in late February 2012. The thickest plume arises just west of the Iran-Pakistan border. Thinner plumes blow southward along the entire coast of Pakistan.

Sandy deserts cover much of southern Pakistan and Iran, and the sand seas of that region often give rise to dust storms. Sandy deserts also cover large parts of Oman, although little of the dust in this image arises from that country.   EarthObservatory (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=77248)


Saharan dust over the Atlantic Ocean (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/02/27/saharan-dust-over-the-atlantic-ocean/)

A strong Harmattan wind carried clouds of dust thousands of kilometers across West Africa and the Northern Atlantic Ocean in early February 2012. Blowing south from the Sahara desert, the dry and dusty seasonal trade wind deposited thick layers of dust on sidewalks and shop windows, and caused the grounding more than a dozen flights by February 8, 2012.

In this image below, white clouds float above the yellow-brown cloud of Saharan dust. In the northeast section of the image, the dust interacts with the Cape Verde Islands, which are located about 570 kilometers off the coast of West Africa.

The flow of wind become disrupted as it hits the mountainous peaks, and becomes turbulent as it passes the islands. This turbulent wind flow is etched in the clouds on the leeward side of the islands, as well as in the tan airborne dust.


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Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) aboard NASA’s Terra satellite captured this true color image on February 8, 2012 (Credit: Jeff Schmaltz/MODIS Land Rapid Response Team/NASA GSFC)


The Harmattan is a strong trade wind which arises in Sahara Desert and blows south across West Africa in the winter months (November to March). Heavy dust storms are common in the region during this time, and residents must adapt to the disruptions that come with heavy dust and sand.

This storm, which began on February 6, has the distinction of being the worst sandstorm in this area in two years. (MODIS)



Big ocean fish in peril – decrease in fish population (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/02/26/big-ocean-fish-in-peril-decrease-in-fish-population/)


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Over-exploitation of the world’s fish resources has caused serious decline in fish populations, and there is widespread concern that the world oceans will be unable to supply fish products for future generations.

Given the importance of marine fisheries for food security throughout the world, this poses a serious threat for coming generations, and we must ask if there will be sufficient seafood for our children and grandchildren...

When it comes to the oceans, research shows a parallel to the Permian-Triassic extinction — also known as the Great Dying — which eradicated 95 percent of marine species when the oceans lost their oxygen about 250 million years ago. The same phenomenon is taking place in many areas of today’s oceans. The entry of fertilizers into rivers and subsequently oceans is eating up the oceans’ oxygen.

Around the world, the number of dead zones, some of which are naturally occurring, increased from 149 in 2003 to more than 200 in 2006, according to a 2008 report by the United Nations Environmental Program.



Shallow moderate 4.8 magnitude earthquake hit French Southern Alps (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/02/27/shallow-moderate-4-8-magnitude-earthquake-hit-french-southern-alps/)


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Shortly before midnight a moderate but very shallow magnitude 4.8 earthquake struck the French Southern Alps.  The earthquake was felt from the Alps ski areas down to the French Mediterranean coast.

According to EMSC magnitude 4.8 earthquake struck 5 km (3.1 miles) east from Crévoux, 41 km (25.5 miles) south of Briançon and 100 km (62.1 miles) southwest of Turin with epicenter at depth of 2km (1.2 miles).

Epicenter was located 92 km (57 miles) southwest of Torino, Italy, 102 km (63 miles) southeast of Grenoble, France, 107 km (66 miles) northwest of Nice, France and 582 km (361 miles) southeast of Paris, France.



CME targets Earth and Mars – auroras and minor geomagnetic storming possible (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/02/26/cme-targets-earth-and-mars-auroras-and-minor-geomagnetic-storming-possible/)


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The CME cloud launched from the Sun on February 24th should reach Earth today, Feb. 26th around 13:30 UTC, according to analysts at the Goddard Space Weather Lab.

A filament of magnetism erupted at the sun’s northeastern limb  on February 24th and hurled CME into space toward Earth. Main part of the cloud headed north but lower edge of CME cloud will dip down low enough to brush Earth and Mars.



6.8 magnitude earthquake hit southwestern Siberia, Russia (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/02/26/6-8-magnitude-earthquake-hit-southwestern-siberia-russia/)


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A strong and shallow magnitude 6.8 earthquake struck the region of southwestern Siberia in Russia on February 26 at 06:17:19 UTC (13:17:19 by local time) according to EMSC.

Epicenter was located 114 km east of Kyzyl, 91 km east of Kaa-khem and 41 km northeast from Saryg-sep with population of 4,582 people (51.75 N ; 96.04 E) at depth of 10 km. The nearest populated places are: Karaus (9km), Kara Khem (13km).

The closest civilian airport is Kyzyl (100km). USGS recorded 6.7 magnitude with depth of  11.7 km (7.3 miles). Russian local seismic agencies reported magnitude 6.6. GEOFON reported 6.5 magnitude at depth of 10 km.



Dust storm in Utah (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/02/25/dust-storm-in-utah/)

Dust and clouds mingled over Utah in late February 2012. The Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA’s Terra satellite captured this natural-color image of a dust storm on February 23.

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The dust arises from the Great Salt Lake Desert, with sediments that can provide ample material for dust storms. Cloudbanks surround the dust, especially in the south and east. The clouds might result from the same weather pattern that brought dust-stirring high winds.


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Dust storm over Texas (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/02/24/dust-storm-over-texas/)


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In late February 2012, a dust storm in the Texas Panhandle dropped visibility to near-zero, and caused numerous accidents and two deaths, according to news station WJLA. The dust swept from eastern New Mexico through Texas, forming a giant arc north of Lubbock.



And then we have the alignment, which some say is sure to cause earthquakes here on Terra Firma.


Triple conjunction – Jupiter, Venus and Moon line up this weekend (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/02/24/triple-conjuction-jupiter-venus-and-moon-line-up-this-weekend/)


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Jupiter,Venus and Moon will be seen in close proximity to each other on the nights of Saturday and Sunday (Feb. 25 and 26), forming an astronomical event and skywatching treat known as a triple conjunction.

A triple conjunction is an astronomical event, where two planets or a planet and a star meet each other three times in a short period either in opposition or at the time of inferior conjunction, if an inferior planet is involved. The visible movement of the planet or the planets in the sky is therefore normally prograde at the first conjunction, retrograde at the second conjunction and again prograde at the third conjunction.

The Moon will pass Venus and  Jupiter on Saturday and Sunday this week (Feb. 25 and 26, 2012). The Moon appears close to Venus on Saturday night, and then near Jupiter on Sunday night. The view on either night will be what astronomers call a triple conjunction.


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Triple conjunction seen over Somogy, Hungary on February 24th (Credit: Rafael Schmall)



Very strong earthquake hits Taiwan causing minor damage (http://www.earth-issues.com/2012/02/26/very-strong-earthquake-hits-taiwan-causing-minor-damage-video/)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBBBPYAZL44

Video of television coverage of the Taiwan earthquake.



Yikes! The Sleeping Giant Awakens?


4.0 Earthquake Southeastern Missouri (New Madrid) (http://www.earth-issues.com/2012/02/21/4-0-earthquake-southeastern-missouri-new-madrid/)


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Satellite captures enormous 90-mile-wide storm that’s UNDERWATER (http://www.earth-issues.com/2012/02/22/satellite-captures-enormous-90-mile-wide-storm-thats-underwater/)

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This is what is puzzling, to say the least. This phenomenon apparently began about 10 days ago.

Unusual number of vortices formed around the globe (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/02/17/unusual-number-of-vortices-formed-around-the-globe-today/)


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During our daily MODIS satellite imagery check up we noticed unusual number of newly formed vortices around the globe. Maybe the most significant is one called Tropical cyclone Giovanna which is located in Mozambique Channel and now is battering Madagascar’s southeast coast.


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Tropical cyclone Giovanna is coming back to Madagascar's land again (Source: MODIS/Aqua)


While observing satellite images from Terra and Aura satellites at MODIS we noticed a few more vortex systems. Two or more vortices are forming right now of the shores of Antarctic and one below Kamchatka peninsula.


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Newly-formed vortex near Antarctic coast (Source: MODIS/Terra)

This vortex system is located beneath current cyclone system TC Giovanna. It could be possible that this system affected the sharp turn of Giovanna path which was forecasted to impact coast of Mozambique but it has suddenly changed its course and is now coming back to batter Madagascar again.


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Vortex near Kamchatka peninsula (Source: MODIS/Terra)


And the 'anomalies' continue:


Severe dust and thunder/hail storms in India (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/13/severe-dust-and-thunderhail-storms-in-india/)
people were killed and more than 200 were injured due to severe dust and thunder/hail storms at different places in India during the past 24 hours.



Very strong and shallow 6.5 magnitude earthquake struck Michoacan, Mexico (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/12/very-strong-and-shallow-6-5-magnitude-earthquake-struck-michoacan-mexico/)


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Magnitude 6.5 earthquake struck Michoacan, Mexico on April 11, 2012 at 22:55:10 UTC according to USGS. The epicenter was located 143 km (88 miles) NW of Zihuatanejo, Guerrero, Mexico (18.272°N, 102.732°W). The depth of epicenter was at 20 km (12.4 miles).

There was no tsunami danger as the earthquake occurred below land.


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So far no reports of damage or injuries. As the epicenter is located in a wilderness area with only a limited number of roads but with a limited agrarian community, we expect reports to ripple in after many hours.

This earthquake is of a completely different type than the massive March 20 earthquake. Also the epicenter area is in a different part of the country.



Indonesia massive M8.6 earthquake the largest non-damaging earthquake ever measured? (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/11/indonesia-massive-m8-6-earthquake-the-largest-non-damaging-earthquake-ever-measured/)


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A massive earthquake struck off the coast of the Indonesian island of Sumatra Wednesday afternoon, triggering a tsunami watch for the Indian Ocean, which was later canceled.

The 8.6 quake struck about 435 km (270 miles) southwest (215°) of Banda Aceh, the capital of Indonesia’s Aceh province (2.311°N, 93.063°E), the U.S. Geological Survey said. It took place at a depth of 23 kilometers (14 miles).

A second large quake, with a magnitude of 8.2, occurred 618 km (384 miles) of off the west coast of Banda Aceh (0.773°N, 92.452°E) about two hours later, at depth of 16.4 km (10.2 miles) according to the USGS.

There were some reports of damage in northern Sumatra. So far there are no reports of seriously injured or killed people. The first 8.6-magnitude quake off Aceh province spawned a wave around 80cm high but caused no serious damage.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTpTzIm_6D4

Video of MSM coverage of the quakes.


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The epicenter of the earthquake is located about 100 km to the west of the subduction fault line in the Oceanic part of the Indian plate and not in the direct subduction zone of the plates. The subduction zone is far more dangerous than stress in the oceanic plate itself. The actual greater area is the intersection in between the Indian Plate, the Australian plate and the SE Asian plate. (Image courtesy of Kerry Sieh, Tectonics Observatory, California Institute of Technology)

An average of 17 large earthquakes (magnitude 7 or greater) happens every year around the world since 1900, and about 15 a year since 1990.


So why was this earthquake the largest non-damaging earthquake ever measured?

a) It occurred 400km+ offshore, thus the earthquake shaking only achieved a maximum intensity of around 5.5-6 in the closest points to land, causing no discernible damage.

b) The earthquake, unlike other major M8+ earthquakes, was a strike-slip earthquake, where plates slide past one another, and not upwards or downwards. Therefore, there was not much offset on either side of the fault and thus the water volume was not significantly displaced and therefore caused NO MAJOR TSUNAMI (highest was at Meulaboh with 1.05m)

c)13 other earthquakes over Mw8 since 1900 have caused no damage, however, the Mw8.6 was the highest by Mw0.4 (around 3 times the ground motion and 7 times more energy than ever before to cause no damage!!!!)


Nothing to see here. Move along. Go back to your homes ...


The Mw8.2 earthquake which occurred a couple of hours later was the 3rd largest earthquake recorded to cause no damage. Earthquake Report (http://earthquake-report.com/2012/04/11/massive-extremely-dangerous-earthquake-500-km-from-the-sumatra-coast-indonesia/)

Indonesia is on the so-called Ring of Fire, an arc of fault lines circling the Pacific Basin that is prone to frequent earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. The earthquake Wednesday comes just over year after a magnitude 9 quake off the northeast coast of Japan caused a devastating tsunami.



Two massive earthquakes M8+ and many strong aftershocks out of the Sumatra coast, Indonesia (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/11/massive-earthquakes-8-6-and-8-1-out-of-the-sumatra-coast-indonesia-tsunami-alert/)


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An 8.8 magnitude earthquake occurred 500 km out of the coast of Sumatra, another area which was also very hard hit in 2004 is India’s Andaman Islands. The second massive quake has been decreased to 8.2 by USGS and it has to be seen as a massive aftershock.

Many (powerful) aftershocks have occurred since the main shock. Residents in Banda Aceh reported the ground shaking violently. A tsunami warning has been issued as Indonesia’s geophysical agency has registered an 8.9 magnitude earthquake in the Aceh region, off the western coast of northern Sumatra.

The tremor was felt in Singapore, Thailand, Bangladesh, Malaysia and India. High-rise apartments and offices on Malaysia’s west coast shook for at least a minute.

Thailand’s National Disaster Warning Center issued an evacuation order to residents in six provinces along the country’s west coast, including the popular tourist destinations of Phuket, Krabi and Phang-Nga.

The first 8.6-magnitude quake off Aceh province, hours earlier, spawned a wave around 80cm high but caused no serious damage.

Tsunami watch alert has been issued for: Indonesia, India, Sri Lanka, Australia, Myanmar, Thailand, Maldives, United Kingdom, Malaysia, Mauritius, Reunion, Seychelles, Pakistan, Somalia, Oman, Madagascar, Iran, Uae, Yemen, Comores, Bangladesh, Tanzania, Mozambique, Kenya, Crozet Islands, Kerguelen Islands, South Africa, Singapore. India’s tsunami warning center said waves measuring up to 6 meters were expected along parts of its eastern coast.

Read the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center’s latest tsunami alert bulletin (http://ptwc.weather.gov/ptwc/?region=0)



Two strong and shallow earthquakes with magnitudes 6.2 and 6.9 struck Gulf of California (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/12/two-strong-and-shallow-earthquakes-with-magnitudes-6-2-and-6-9-struck-gulf-of-california/)


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Two strong and shallow earthquakes struck Gulf of California on April 12, 2012. First earthquake was measured with magnitude 6.2 at 07:06:01 UTC with depth of 10.1km. A second earthquake struck same area less than 10 minutes later, at 07:15:49 UTC, recorded magnitude was 6.9 with depth at 10.3km.

NO tsunami warning, watch or advisory is in effect for these areas.

The set of earthquakes in the Gulf of California have started with a M4.7 earthquake, followed 18 minutes later by a M6.2 earthquake and another 9 minutes later with a M6.9 earthquake (the most powerful so far)



Shallow 6.2 magnitude earthquake in Drake Passage between Argentina and Antarctica (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/14/shallow-6-2-magnitude-earthquake-in-drake-passage-between-argentina-and-antartica/)


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Shallow earthquake with recorded magnitude of 6.2 occurred at Drake Passage between Argentina and Antarctica on Saturday, April 14 , 2012 (10:56 UTC). Epicenter was 358 km (222 miles) SSE of Ushuaia, Tierra del Fuego, Argentina (57.588°S, 65.413°W). Recorded depth by USGS was at 9.9 km (6.2 miles).

No tsunami warning was issued.

EMSC is reporting 5.9 magnitude at depth of 30 km.

Earthquake-report.com said: 2 earthquakes with (preliminary) magnitudes of 6.1 and 6.6 just happened in the Drake passage. Preliminary distance to Ushuaia: 356 km. ER calls this earthquake NOT dangerous and the earthquake is to weak to have a tsunami potential.

The 2 earthquakes occurred with an interval of 20 seconds. Update 11:15 UTC: Both earthquakes (17 seconds interval) have been recalculated as M6.1 quakes.



Strong and shallow earthquake magnitude 6.0 near the east coast of Honshu (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/13/strong-and-shallow-earthquake-magnitude-6-0-near-the-east-coast-of-honshu/)


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Long and shallow earthquake magnitude 6.0 struck near the east coast of Honshu on April 13, 2012 at 10:10:02 UTC according to USGS. JMA is reporting magnitude 5.9. In either case this is strong earthquake only 42 km (26 miles) off the Fukushima nuclear power plant, and 86 km (53 miles) off the Tokai nuclear plant.

Epicenter was located 39 km (24 miles) E of Iwaki, Honshu, Japan (36.998°N, 141.325°E). Recorded depth was 13.6 km (8.5 miles) by USGS. JMA recorded depth of 20km (12.4 miles).


Oops!

This is not weather, but still fits in with our destroying Mother Earth theme. Whatever happened to those underwater plumes, those 'rivers of oil?'


Huge sheen of oil spotted in the Gulf of Mexico (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/12/huge-sheen-of-oil-spotted-in-the-gulf-of-mexico/)


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Royal Dutch Shell says a sheen of oil, 10 square miles in size (26 square kilometers), has been spotted in the Gulf of Mexico on late Wednesday, April 11, 2012 and was reported to National Response Center.

The sheen is one mile wide and ten miles long and is located in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico, between its Mars and Ursa drilling platforms. The platforms are both located 130 miles (209 km) southeast of New Orleans.

Shell said there is “no current indication that the sheen originates from wells in either the Mars or Ursa projects,” and that they have activated the Louisiana Responder, an oil spill response vessel that has skimming and boom capabilities.


Of course ...:P


Active volcanoes in the world – April 4 – April 10, 2012 (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/12/active-volcanoes-in-the-world-april-4-april-10-2012/)


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Featured image: Photo of Mt Cleveland taken at 18:00 GMT on 11 Mar 2012 by Lt. Matthew Davis aboard the NOAA ship Oscar Dyson. Photo taken while transiting north through Samalga pass while on fisheries survey. Several small explosions were detected in several days prior to the time of the photo, but very little ash is observed on the upper flanks. Creator: Davis, Matthew. Image courtesy of NOAA.

This report covers active volcanoes recorded from April 4 – April 10, 2012 based on Smithsonian/USGS criteria. New unrest has been noticed around 4 volcanoes, ongoing activity was reported for 9 volcanoes.

CLEVELAND
Chuginadak Island 52.825°N, 169.944°W; summit elev. 1730 m

FUEGO
Guatemala 14.473°N, 90.880°W; summit elev. 3763 m

NEVADO DEL RUIZ
Colombia 4.895°N, 75.322°W; summit elev. 5321 m

SOUFRIERE HILLS
Montserrat 16.72°N, 62.18°W; summit elev. 915 m

Ongoing activity
KARYMSKY
Eastern Kamchatka (Russia) 54.05°N, 159.45°E; summit elev. 1536 m

KILAUEA
Hawaii (USA) 19.421°N, 155.287°W; summit elev. 1222 m

PAGAN
Mariana Islands 18.13°N, 145.80°E; summit elev. 570 m

PUYEHUE-CORDON CAULLE
Central Chile 40.590°S, 72.117°W; summit elev. 2236 m

RANAKAH
Flores Island (Indonesia) 8.62°S, 120.52°E; summit elev. 2350 m

SANTA MARIA
Guatemala 14.756°N, 91.552°W; summit elev. 3772 m

SHIVELUCH
Central Kamchatka (Russia) 56.653°N, 161.360°E; summit elev. 3283 m

TAMBORA
Sumbawa Island (Indonesia) 8.25°S, 118.00°E; summit elev. 2850 m

TUNGURAHUA
Ecuador 1.467°S, 78.442°W; summit elev. 5023 m

Global Volcanism Program (http://www.volcano.si.edu/reports/usgs/index.cfm?wvarweek=20120404#cleve)


Volcano Update!


Costa Rica’s Turrialbla volcano unleashed new wave of eruptions (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/14/costa-ricas-turrialbla-volcano-unleashed-new-wave-of-eruptions/)


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Authorities said the Turrialbla volcano had a new wave of eruptions on Thursday, April 12, 2012. Scientists are converging on the mountain for a closer look at the smoke spewing from its center.

The Red Sismológica Nacional (RSN) and the Observatorio Vulcanologio y Sismologico de Costa Rica (OVISCORI), said Turrialbla’s activity does not present any significant risk, but they will continue to closely monitor the volcano.

Area residents reported of hearing a rumble as well as the sighting of dark colored smoke, generated by gas fumes from the volcano.


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Main crater of the Turrialba. Image: www.summitpost.org

Turrialbla became a concern last January among local residents and experts after the emanation of white gas fumes. A number of experts from the RSN are headed to the top of the volcano while the OVISCORI has kept the national park under a green alert.

The volcano (10°2?0?N 83°46?0?W) is 3,340 m (10,958 ft) high and is about 45 minutes from the Atlantic slope town of Turrialba. The summit has three craters, one of which has fumaroles and sulfur pits. Visitors used to be able to hike down into the main crater, but increased gaseous activity has caused the time at the summit to be limited to no more than fifteen minutes.


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Turrialba Volcano, September, 2005


During the 19th century, it explosively erupted several times (1847, 1853, 1855, 1861, 1864–1865, 1866), producing pyroclastic flows.

The last major eruption was in 1866, but in January 2001, the volcano reported increased activity, displaying strong fumaroles at the central craters. The volcanic activities have increased since 2005. In January 2010, the volcano emitted ash, and two villages, La Central and El Retiro, were evacuated.


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The active volcano, October 2009. Image: www.summitpost.org


Turrialba is adjacent to Irazú and both are among Costa Rica’s largest volcanoes. It had at least five large explosive eruptions in last 3500 years.  RSOE (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=VA-20120413-34889-CRI)



G1 Class Geomagnetic Storm / Solar Watch April 13, 2012 (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/13/g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-solar-watch-april-13-2012/)


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G1 Geomagnetic Storm is now in progress due to the arrival of a high speed solar wind stream from coronal hole (CH512) buffeting the earths magnetic field.

New Sunspot group 1455 continues to grow rapidly without producing anything of significance as yet but there may be a chance for a M-Class flare around AR11455 in the coming days.

A powerful Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) released off the sun April 9th indicates a potential for a significant event felt here on earth in 9-12 days.


That would make the ETA 18-21 April, Wednesday-Saturday of this week.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92BmtTxGJ0I

Video portrays information regarding G1 Geomagnetic Storm is now in progress due to the arrival of a high speed solar wind stream from coronal hole (CH512) buffeting the earths magnetic field.


A significant volcanic eruption, Major Tornado swarms or outbreak in North America or out of season Typhoon/Tropical Cyclone in the western pacific/Indian ocean region is possible from this energetic event.

Time frame April 21-24, 2012.


Fasten your seat belts.

Peace Love Light
tfw
Liberty & Equality or Revolution
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Amaterasu on April 16, 2012, 08:41:46 pm
I wonder if all those disappearing bankers have headed out of sight - like under ground...

Yes...  Things are getting interesting.  So I guess We are cursed, living in interesting times.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Captain Dave on April 16, 2012, 09:25:08 pm
A few tools to keep an eye on your planet...

Weather forcasting for Sailors:
http://www.passageweather.com/ (http://www.passageweather.com/)

Whats the Weather like right now?
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration:
http://www.weather.gov/ (http://www.weather.gov/) 

Check up on your favorite Asteroids & Meteors!
Nasa/Jpl small body database browser: http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi (http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi)

How's the Sun looking today?
Solar cycles:
http://www.solarham.com/ (http://www.solarham.com/)

Shake things up a bit with -
USGS Earthquake Hazards Program - US Map:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/ (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/)

USGS Earthquake Hazards Program - World Map:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/ (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/)

US Nuclear Reactors & basic first aid kits:
http://www.nukepills.com/nuclear-reactor-maps.htm#ReactorMap1 (http://www.nukepills.com/nuclear-reactor-maps.htm#ReactorMap1)

Anyone know a virgin? - Well here's some Volcano's-
USGS Volcano Hazard Program - Map:
http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/ (http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/)


Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Shasta56 on April 16, 2012, 10:02:48 pm
Last week I dreamed of a volcano erupting in New Mexico.  It spread thick layers of ash up through Colorado and Wyoming, to the extent of the ash looking like snowdrifts in places.  Hospitals were being overwhelmed with respiratory distress cases.  The only volcano I can think of in New Mexico, is Capulin Mountain.  It's cosidered extinct.  So are Huerfano Peak in southern Colorado and Elk Mountain in southern Wyoming.  It isn't that far, geologically from those three to Yellowstone to the Cascades which is an active range.  At what point will Mt. Ranier just go ahead and take out Seattle?

Shasta
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: arc on April 16, 2012, 11:38:18 pm
The South Pacific, Nazca (South American) plate and the North American tectonic plates are moving in relation to each other. As one side dips  the other feels extended pressure and experiences pressure relief jumps.  Something much deeper down towards the core, is happening.  The "floatation factor" of the liquid core is changing as H3 bubbles rise from the slow reactor down there. This directly impacts our landmasses. We exist on a large hot "waterbed" made of liquid rock. The cool "skin" we walk on is just a small freaction of the total planets diameter.

arc
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on April 17, 2012, 12:04:29 am
All symptoms of the Earth's Thermal Cycle/s I guess.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 17, 2012, 01:00:04 pm
All symptoms of the Earth's Thermal Cycle/s I guess.


Greetings:

Aha!

All and you guess?

Another 'scientist' inferring 'nothing to see here?'

How come you didn't include the word 'normal,' as in 'All symptoms of the normal Earth Thermal Cycles?'

Do you use the Fukushima Slide Rule?

(Just joking, my friend.)


We believe this may interest you also.


Here’s a great title for the lead-in of today’s discussion.


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Depending on who you hear ‘defending the truth’ (“science” as they see it), even though there have been two 8+ earthquakes in the last week (8.2 and 8.6) off the west coast of northern Sumatra, some say “nothing unusual, look at the last 10,000 years to make any kind of correlation.”


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Quote
"If you keep seismically shaking the Earth, like a bottle of soda, its structural integrity eventually will become compromised and it will start to fracture like an egg.

In this case, the fracturing will be thermal dissipation by hyper-volcanism, mega-thrust earthquakes, and greater tectonic boundary plate agitation around volcanic arcs and subduction zones…if this is what’s indeed happening, the pressure will continue to build in the interior of the planet until it eventually destabilizes all tectonic plates in a spectral pattern of continous seismic oscillation.

Every earthquake generates and emits enough kinetic energy through the earth to potentially trigger more seismic disturbances.”

Did someone mention Tesla? HAARP? So many ways to take this...

Did N. Sumatra earthquakes set off a chain-reaction? Planet shaken by shocking number of tremors since April 11, 2012 (http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/)


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April 17, 2012 - The shocking number of earthquakes that have rattled the globe, especially along tectonic plate boundaries, since the double 8.0+ magnitude earthquakes struck off the coast of Northern Sumatra on April 11 could be early indication the planet may be shifting towards a new catastrophic model.

Romania’ s top seismologist, Gheorghe Marmureanu, told the Bucharest Herald: “There is no doubt something is seriously wrong. There have been too many strong earthquakes.”

I said in my book: “If you keep seismically shaking the Earth, like a bottle of soda, its structural integrity eventually will become compromised and it will start to fracture like an egg.

In this case, the fracturing will be thermal dissipation by hyper-volcanism, mega-thrust earthquakes, and greater tectonic boundary plate agitation around volcanic arcs and subduction zones…if this is what’s indeed happening, the pressure will continue to build in the interior of the planet until it eventually destabilizes all tectonic plates in a spectral pattern of continous seismic oscillation.

Every earthquake generates and emits enough kinetic energy through the earth to potentially trigger more seismic disturbances.” -The Extinction Protocol, page 495


7.0-magnitude quake rattles Papua New Guinea | The Jakarta Post (http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2012/04/17/70-magnitude-quake-rattles-papua-new-guinea.html)


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April 17, 2012 Associated Press - 3:49 PM

A strong earthquake has struck the South Pacific island nation of Papua New Guinea. There are no immediate reports of damage or injuries and no tsunami alert has been issued.

The U.S. Geological Survey says the magnitude-7.0 quake struck Tuesday at a depth of 200 kilometers (124 miles), about 140 kilometers (88 miles) north of the city of Lae.

The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center did not issue a tsunami alert.

Papua New Guinea's Geophysical Observatory says the quake was felt as far as the capital Port Moresby, but there were no reports of damage.



Sangay volcano (Ecuador), activity update: growing lava dome, lava flows and ash explosions (http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/sangay/news/8079/Sangay-volcano-Ecuador-activity-update-growing-lava-dome-lava-flows-and-ash-explosions.html)


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49th volcano erupts in 2012: Ecuador’s Sangay volcano unleashes 2 km ash cloud

April 17, 2012 – ECUADOR - During an over-flight on 13 April, an explosion from Sangay volcano was observed at 08:25 local time.

It generated an ash and steam column of 2 km above the summit crater. A new vent was detected; both on visible and thermal images, located next to the active dome on the SE flank (Ñuñurqu).


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View of the upper SE flank of Sangay volcano and thermal image showing the various vents at the dome emitting lava flows that form several branches and reach the base of the summit cone (Photo: P. Ramón OVT/IG)


The activity in this area has intensified since October, when the last aerial survey had taken place. Extensive lava flows are descending on the SE flank of the dome and reaching the base of the cone.
Strong fumarolic activity was seen on the SE flank of the dome and on the S flank of the central crater. Volcano Discovery (http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/sangay/news/8079/Sangay-volcano-Ecuador-activity-update-growing-lava-dome-lava-flows-and-ash-explosions.html)




Russia’s Shiveluch volcano spews ash up to 9,500 meters (31,000 ft) – its most powerful eruption this year (http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2012/04/17/russias-shiveluch-volcano-spews-ash-up-to-9500-meters-31000-ft-its-most-powerful-eruption-this-year/)


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April 17, 2012 –RUSSIA –  Russia’s northernmost active volcano is churning out ash to a height of 9,500 meters (over 31,000 feet) in the country’s Far East, local scientists reported on Tuesday.

The 3,283-meter (10,771-foot) Shiveluch volcano increased activity in May 2009 and has been periodically spewing ash from three to ten kilometers. “A powerful eruption of ashes took place 05.59 a.m. local time [17:59 GMT on Monday], a source at the Far Eastern Institute of Volcanology and Seismology said. The official said the column of ashes could be clearly seen from a distance of 40 kilometers spreading to the east.

“It is the most powerful eruption this year,” the expert said.



6.7 magnitude earthquake strikes Valparaiso, Chile (http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2012/04/17/6-5-magnitude-earthquake-strikes-valparaiso-chile/)

CORRECTED-Strong quake shakes Chile capital - Reuters witness (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/17/quake-chile-idUSL2E8FH0HN20120417)

(Reuters) - A powerful earthquake struck the Chilean capital Santiago on Tuesday, a Reuters witness said.

The U.S. Geological Survey said the quake measured 6.6 in magnitude and was located 30 miles north-northeast of Valparaiso at a depth of 41.9 miles.


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April 17, 2012 – CHILE - A 6.7-magnitude earthquake struck 30 miles (48 kilometers) from the port city of Valparaiso in Chile on Tuesday morning, the U.S. Geological Survey said.

No tsunami warning has been issued.

The earthquake had a depth of 16.1 miles, the USGS said. The temblor was felt in the capital city, Santiago.

The U.S. Geological Survey initially put the quake’s magnitude at 6.5 but later raised it to 6.7. Its epicenter was 26 miles (42 kilometers) northeast of Valparaiso, and it had a depth of 23 miles (37 kilometers). It struck just minutes before midnight local time Monday (3:50 Tuesday GMT).

The Chilean navy’s hydrographic and oceanographic service discounted the possibility of a tsunami, but authorities maintained an order for people to move to higher ground along a roughly 500-mile (roughly 780 kms) stretch of coastline running from the city of Constitucion to Tongoy, north of the capital.



Mexico raises alert for Popocatepetl volcano (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/17/us-mexico-volcano-idUSBRE83G06720120417)


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The Popocatepetl volcano spews a cloud of ash and steam high into the air as seen from Puebla, 100 km (62 miles) east of Mexico City April 14, 2012  Credit: Reuters/Imelda Medina


April 17, 2012 - MEXICO CITY - 12:52am EDT

(Reuters) - Mexican authorities raised the alert level for the Popocatepetl volcano near to Mexico City on Monday after it started spewing red-hot fragments of rock.

The lava dome of Popocatepetl, some 50 miles to the southeast of the capital, started to expand on Friday, Mexico's National Center for Disaster Prevention said.

This change in activity in the 5,450 meter (17,900 foot) volcano could provoke big explosions capable of sending incandescent fragments out over considerable distances, as well as ash showers, the center said in a statement.

The center raised the alert level to yellow phase three from yellow phase two, indicating possible magma expulsion and explosions of increasing intensity. It is the third-highest warning on the center's seven-step scale.

Emergency services should ready evacuation teams and shelters, limit access to the area around the volcano and alert air-traffic control systems, the center said in its statement.

Experts have noted increased activity in Popocateptl in 2012. It has spewed smoke and ash sporadically over the last few years and a major eruption in 2000 forced the evacuation of nearly 50,000 residents in three states surrounding the peak.


Which brings us to this, Dear Reader.

Not too often do we get to drop the names Zen Gardner and Dutchsince in the same sentence. Since this presentation by Brother Zen fits so nicely with our OP, we’ll run it in its entirety with due credit.


Next Megaquake Looking for a Weak Spot? (http://www.zengardner.com/next-megaquake-looking-for-a-weak-spot/)


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Following the quakes around the ring of fire you start to see patterns, thanks to people like Dutchsinse who diligently follow earth changes and weather phenomena and make a real effort to educate as well as serve as the warning system the mainstream generally fails to be due to their collusion with the PTBs.

He’s noticed at least two important patterns. When one side of the ring of fire is very active and the other is not, there will usually be mirrored activity soon in those dormant areas to balance the pressure release.

The other is the telltale sign before very large quakes of a consistent and notable build up of good sized tectonic activity. He predicted the big Japan quake based on just such a large swarm and keeps an eye out for it.

On top of this, we are presently in a conjunction of planetary and lunar influences that often accompany large earthquakes, as these gravitational and otherwise influences tug on our excited earth’s rotating core.


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Central America and Puerto Rico Lighting Up

This current Central American activity is just such a phenomenon to keep an eye on. This is just the kind of flurry that happens before very large quakes.

The Central American quakes are all sizeable and the Puerto Rico quake swarm is even more than the usual already high activity. Note the fault line connecting Puerto Rico to the Central American coastal fault, which then goes south but is mostly obscured by the many frequent quakes.

The region it crosses through southern Mexico is “reawakening” as noted below and could set off any of these large systems around it, especially Puerto Rico or the entire California fault line that is also experiencing increased activity.

I don’t like the looks of it. People should beware and prepare.

There has also been a massive dolphin die-off of in Peru recently so this whole lower level of the eastern ring of fire should be watched. Although from the sounds of the injuries it could be that nasty naval black-op sonar or something HAARP related.

Seems they’ve targeted earth’s biosphere for some Satanic reason. And their operations are intertwined with natural phenomena no doubt for camouflage.

Clever bastards. But wrong and soon to come to an end.


Russian Prediction

I ran into this information as I was editing and filling in illustrations. It just amazes me how that increasingly happens, as I’m sure many of you are experiencing.

Synchronicity rules.

Turns out that following the big Chiapas quake in Mexico in January, prior to the recent whopper recently there in March, Russian scientists apparently made the following announcement:

Megaquake Warning Issued For US-Mexican Pacific Coast

A disturbing report prepared by the Schmidt Institute of Physics of the Earth (IPE) in Moscow that is circulating in the Kremlin today warns that the 6.2 magnitude earthquake that struck the Chiapas region of Mexico yesterday is a ‘potential precursor’ to a ‘megaquake’ of at least 7.5-8.3 expected to hit the US-Mexican Pacific coastline within the next fortnight (+/- 7 days).

According to this IPE report, concerns were raised about this region after a 4.1 magnitude earthquake hit the Mexican Baja California peninsula on 18 January and emitted in the “4.433–4.498 micrometre range” “extreme” atmospheric temperature variations normally not associated with such a quake and that was verified yesterday as occurring again in Chiapas.

Important to note about this region, this IPE report says, fears were heightened after a 7.2 magnitude earthquake that hit on 4 April 2010 and was the first big earthquake to occur on this particular fault system since 1892, links Mexico’s seismic zone to California’s massive fault system, and points to a “reawakening” of this areas potential for catastrophic seismic/volcanic occurrences. [Emphasis mine] (source (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39116-Megaquake-Warning-Issued-For-US-Mexican-Pacific-Coast))

That was on January 21 of this year. The 7.4 near Acapulco occured on March 20th. So either this was a fulfillment of that warning, or possibly a precursor to an even bigger event.


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The Little Known Puerto Rico Trench

I wrote about this amazing huge Puerto Rico Trench a couple of times. It was startling to find out just how massive and deep this fault line trench is. The consequences of a substantial subterranean landslide and resultant tsunami on the entire heavily populated low-lying island region of the Caribbean is almost unfathomable. And there’s hardly any talk about that lurking danger.

Of course not.

In case you haven’t noticed, the “authorities” don’t seem to want us to be aware of how tentative things are and the imminent dangers we face.

Whether it’s earthquake activity, radiation releases, or geoengineering insanity wrecking the planet, we’re supposed to just trudge along with our heads down and not notice.


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We May Not Know When, But People Should Be Prepared

I recently watched a moving and very insightful movie called Tsunami – Caught On Camera that is really worth viewing. It shows the psychology of human reactions to disaster. It’s a gripping and heart rending tale of several families and individuals who endured the catastrophic effects of the 2004 tsunami in several heavily hit locations.

The human spirit is so beautiful, through triumph and tragedy.

What baffled me was how even locals in some of these locations didn’t realize that when the sea retreats way out, leaving boats stranded and fish flapping on the sand and rocks, something big is coming and you should head for the hills. In some cases people were sleeping or there was very little warning.

But I found this disturbing that people didn’t know this clear sign of a tsunami approaching.

I guess I’ve always been into earth changes. Volcanoes have always fascinated me, and I also remember being heavily impressed with the pictures of the Alaskan quake in 1964 (above) which so wowed me with the power of nature. And those old pictures showed people on the beach one second, and gone the next.

But people in 2004 were completely caught unawares. When the tide went out many gathered at the beach to see what the fuss was all about. When It started coming in and rising so quickly some thought it was cool and still had no idea. Not everybody missed the warning and did try to warn others, but in general there was a real lack of awareness.

Are people really so ignorant of the world around them in this day and age?

After this event I think the world learned a lot, perhaps.

The Fukushima tsunami was a strange phenomenon that gave no warnings except the preceding quake, which was semi-routine tor them. Even the quake damage in Fukushima was hard to spot so they just kept about their ways until the ocean just rose and swallowed them up.

Very strange when the Japanese are very alert about this phenomenon and the potential effects from quakes.


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The Psycho-Scientific Factor

Lucky us, in addition to all these energetic earth changes hitting our planet, we get to live in a time of exponentially exploding “scientific” advancement, almost all of it being weaponized by our current psychopathic “powers that be”.

“Oh, happy day, we have a military industrial matrix that wants to rule the world. Get your flags out everyone and pray for the troops. There are enemies everywhere and we need all the technological advantage we can get!”

And that’s seriously the mindset of 95% of those involved in all this bullsh#t. I’ve talked to some of them.

There are many questions surrounding the Japanese quake and tsunami. This is just the type of thing alternative researchers regularly investigate, looking for anything strange and man-made, since so often you do find strange EMF signatures or the like, as with these recent unusual tornado outbreaks in the U.S.


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Recent Mexico Quake Anomalies

This admission is off the charts strange. Here the governor of the Mexican region stages a “megaquake drill” that announces “we’re ready” and 6 minutes later the quake happens.

Are you kidding me?

The Mexican State of Chiapas held a ‘mega earthquake drill’ just minutes before the 7.8 Richter scale earthquake registered in Southern Mexico, according to the news website ADNPolitico.com (http://www.adnpolitico.com/gobierno/2012/03/20/el-sismo-coincide-con-simulacro-de-juan-sabines-en-chiapas).

Governor Juan Sabines Guerrero sent a message from his Twitter account just six minutes before the actual earthquake. The translation of the message is the following:

“We’re at the State of Chiapas Civil Protection Center. Everything is ready for the 7.9 Richter scale earthquake simulation.”

Six minutes later, and about 500 kilometers west of Chiapas, in the neighboring southern state of Guerrero, a 7.8 magnitude earthquake was registered. The earthquake was so massive that over a hundred aftershocks were felt throughout the following day.  source (http://deadlinelive.info/2012/03/22/chiapas-governor-6-minutes-before-earthquake-were-ready-for-the-mega-earthquake-drill/)


Weather Mod In Full Bloom

The government has openly admitted the existence of weather modification technology for a long time. There’s even a United Nations Weather Warfare Treaty (http://wearechange.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/weather-warfare-treaty/) to NOT use them!

Of course only on other countries, not your own.

And as is usually the case, this stuff’s been in full operation covertly yet in plain site for decades and we’re left to piece the evidence together for ourselves. But believe me, it’s not hard. There is documentation all over the place as well as scientific sites that track these phenomena.

Nicolas West from Activist Post (http://www.activistpost.com/) summarizes this regarding the recent tornado outbreak nicely:

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It is indisputable that weather weapons have been considered as a means for agricultural and societal control.  Elite grand master, Zbigniew Brzezinski, stated in his book Between Two Ages (1970) that “Technology of weather modification could be employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm.”
 

Moreover, it is a stated military goal to “Own the Weather by 2025.”

This HAARP facility and its substations scattered throughout the U.S. have been tracked by intrepid weather researcher Dutchsinse who has made some startlingly accurate predictions based on the tell-tale radar flares of these facilities, already linked to earthquakes in the area of the New Madrid seismic zone.

Beyond earthquakes, however, there is an increasing body of evidence to suggest that the injection of frequencies into storm systems can prolong, or intensify their output.

The massive system that moved through the Dallas area yesterday seems to bear the signatures of a similar frequency injection that Dutchsinse has used to predict previous tornado outbreaks.  The patterns show up as HAARP rings (circle sweeps (http://sincedutch.wordpress.com/2012/04/02/422012-square-waves-sawtooth-sweeps-and-circle-sweeps-texas-east-coast-minnesota-wisconsin/)) or scalar squares (square waves (http://www-star.stanford.edu/~vlf/publications/2008-03.pdf)) which are pinpointed below.  source (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1980/334/Texas_Tornado_Outbreak_Illustrates_HAARP_Signatures.html)


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Be Prepared – But Stay Happy!

Once again, we need to be on our toes.

Those in earthquake zones, however remote the chance, should have their go-bags ready, shoes to slip on by your bed, and emergency supplies and escape plans ready. People just don’t get how important that is.

And we didn’t even touch on their planned flu pandemics for which we need good supplements and natural remedies, as well as face masks. Yes, face masks, at least good surgical ones.

I know, it can be depressing, but you’ll sleep a lot better knowing you and your family are responding and not just staring at all this like a deer in the headlights.

As Sovereign Man says, “There are two ways to sleep well at night. Be ignorant or be prepared.”

Well said.

Now you know what’s going on you only have one alternative. Easy.

Love, Zen


We couldn’t have said it better, friend  :up:


17 April 2012 - 3:33:33 EST


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Added 4/16/2012 @ 17:50 UTC

M-Class Solar Flare / Spectacular Eruption (http://www.solarham.com/)

The returning region off the northeast limb looks to be providing us with some Solar Fireworks. A massive eruption that registered as an M1.7 event, peaked at 17:45 UTC on Monday afternoon. Due to the location of this event, the CME plasma cloud generated was not directed towards Earth.

Click HERE (http://www.solarham.com/pictures/archive/apr16_2012_flare4.jpg) for a high resolution image.

Big Eruption (Monday) - SDO


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A returning active region produced an M1.7 Solar Flare which led to a massive eruption. This movie contains images and video by SDO and EVE. This will most likely not be directed towards Earth because of its location near the eastern limb.

Updated 4/17/2012 @ 11:50 UTC

Solar Update

Solar activity increased to moderate levels with an M1.7 flare detected around the returning active region off the northeast limb. An impressive plasma eruption resulted, but does not look to be Earth directed.

This returning sunspot should be numbered 1461 on Tuesday. A new region now numbered 1460 continues to form in the northern hemisphere to the north of where fading AR1458 once was. Sunspot 1459 located in the southeast quadrant remains a sprawling sunspot cluster, but is not magnetically complex.

Elsewhere, existing sunspot 1455 is approaching the western limb and will soon begin to rotate out of direct Earth view. There will remain a chance for C-Class flares on Tuesday and perhaps an isolated M-Class event.


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Sunspot 1459: Despite being fairly quiet, Sunspot 1459 continues to change appearance and size. This 7 day movie by SDO/HMI shows AR1459 rotating into view and and how it continues to evolve.


We certainly do live interesting times and are daily thankful of our fellow travelers this time around ...

Peace Love Light
tfw

Liberty & Equality or Revolution
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 28, 2012, 08:25:41 am
Greetings:

Just taking a moment to bump an earlier thread that some might like to reply to now, considering...

Peace Love Light
tfw
Liberty & Equality or Revolution
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Littleenki on May 28, 2012, 08:44:58 am
Greetings:

Just taking a moment to bump an earlier thread that some might like to reply to now, considering...

Peace Love Light
tfw
Liberty & Equality or Revolution
Great post, Thor, you definitely have an amazing knack for bringing the news!
In an honest way! You truly are a passionate journalist!

Thanks for the paragraph bump! I love that enter button.:o

Now even more!:D

I see weather as an indicator of unkind deeds perpetrated by our PTB, and they would find a way to control that too, dammit! I love the rain! But not their idea of it!:(

Hey, hows that hydro power station coming along?
I have been going through some plans for my Vortex generator and wondered if you have any ideas on such an apparatus?

Cheers!
Littleenki
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 28, 2012, 08:59:05 am
Great post, Thor, you definitely have an amazing knack for bringing the news!
In an honest way! You truly are a passionate journalist!

Thanks for the paragraph bump! I love that enter button.:o

Now even more!:D

I see weather as an indicator of unkind deeds perpetrated by our PTB, and they would find a way to control that too, dammit! I love the rain! But not their idea of it!:(

Hey, hows that hydro power station coming along?
I have been going through some plans for my Vortex generator and wondered if you have any ideas on such an apparatus?

Cheers!
Littleenki

Greetings:

Somehow, your experiments reminded us of this:

http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-reverse-rotate-magnetic-balls-with-tesla-cd-turbine-192537/

We are looking into various ideas and appreciate any input on micro-hydro.

tfw
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Linda Brown on May 28, 2012, 09:25:44 am
I wrote about this amazing huge Puerto Rico Trench a couple of times. It was startling to find out just how massive and deep this fault line trench is. The consequences of a substantial subterranean landslide and resultant tsunami on the entire heavily populated low-lying island region of the Caribbean is almost unfathomable. And there’s hardly any talk about that lurking danger.

Thats a quote from above but I am not sure who to credit for it..... but thats an interesting statement. I have some interest in that area since my Dad was one of the first who discovered that trench in 1933.....

It was called the Princeton Gravity expedition. The sub was the S48.

And during part of their voyage there was a major earthquake in Santiago. The populace blamed the US submarine in the harbor and the crew who were ashore had to make a hurried exit by truck to the other side of the island.. chased by a mob who blamed them for the quake. ( And Amaterasu.... they DID  have  torches!!!)

Nobody much mentions that..... because they don't know about it YET.

Who was on that cruise? The sub was borrowed by a mysterious scientist from the Netherlands who was studying gravity and anomalous readings......the junior exec was a man by the name of Rickover. My Dad was a low ranking seaman first class.... yet he was in charge of some of the operations.... hand picked by the man from the Nethrlands. While ashore Dad and his scientific partner ( Hess.... who later discovered Sea Mounts by the use of sonar which he developed for the Navy.).... the hotel they were in was demolished and Hess and my Dad saved the scientist and dragged him out into the open just as the rest of the hotel collapsed.

   All this is documented history...... But obviously there was alot going on that nobody at that time was meant to know..... The towns people blamed the US sub for triggering the quake.... which Dad denied of course... pointing out that if they had caused it.... they would not have been sleeping in an old downtown building!!!! It didn't stop a mob from forming.

So you see folks. This has been brewing for a very long time.

Linda
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Linda Brown on May 28, 2012, 09:39:39 am
And only a few months later another expedition was launched. But now note..... the simple sailor who was on the sub...... is now listed as a Lt. Commander.

http://siarchives.si.edu/collections/siris_arc_217247

The First Johnson-Smithsonian Deep-Sea Expedition to the West Indies
 Folder 4 Original Notes on First Caroline expedition in 1933, made by Anthony Wilding
Box 3 of 19  Folder 5 Pilot balloon observations, 1933
Box 3 of 19  Folder 6 Log, taken on board the Caroline, including soundings, thermometer corrections, 1933
Box 3 of 19  Folder 7 Sonic Soundings taken by Lieutenant T. Townsend Brown, United States Naval Reserve, 1933Box 3 of 19  Folder 8 Correspondence, notes, blueprint of the Caroline, 1926-1933, which includes the following: Eldridge R. Fenimore Johnson to Bartsch regarding a winch for the expedition, 5/8/1933.
Box 3 of 19  Folder 9 Blueprints, which include the following: Drum storage area, Caroline; Hoist Installation on main deck of Caroline; Deep-sea dredging winch; Underwater camera
Box 3 of 19  Folder 10 Photographs of the Caroline and members on the expedition
Box 3 of 19  Folder 11 Newspaper clippings related to the Johnson-Smithsonian Deep-Sea Expedition, No. 1, 1933

For all of those who are busy saying..yeah but this is just RUMOR... take a LONG look at the link here. Thats meat with the potatoes folks.

Point is..... take a long look at the size of this enterprise..... there is something very important going on here folks..... look UNDER THE SURFACE.

Since I don't want to be drawing off the conversation here.... anybody want to look at this further with me... I will try to stay closer to my own discussion area...<g>    Linda
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: sky otter on May 28, 2012, 10:08:51 am


you ask

Are people really so ignorant of the world around them in this day and age?  

the answer is a big yes they are

and while that is one helleva lot of work you have put in most will just breeze thur it
like a traveloge with out realizing the trouble we are in..
the pot is certainly being stirred...votexs abound

so i will jump in with my tiny little bit of advice..well if you can call it that ;)
it is so important that we get to know our abilities..those of awareness to danger
abilities that will keep you safe with knowledge you didn't acknowledge before
we all are awesome  and are capable of so much more than most currently realize

i think where ever we are  we will be tested...
a passing grade would be what?  as many answers as there are folk reading the question
so tfw
thanks for another wake up call to awarenss of our surroundings

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 28, 2012, 10:24:05 am
A few tools to keep an eye on your planet...

Weather forcasting for Sailors:
http://www.passageweather.com/ (http://www.passageweather.com/)

Whats the Weather like right now?
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration:
http://www.weather.gov/ (http://www.weather.gov/) 

Check up on your favorite Asteroids & Meteors!
Nasa/Jpl small body database browser: http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi (http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi)

How's the Sun looking today?
Solar cycles:
http://www.solarham.com/ (http://www.solarham.com/)

Shake things up a bit with -
USGS Earthquake Hazards Program - US Map:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/ (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/)

USGS Earthquake Hazards Program - World Map:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/ (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/)

US Nuclear Reactors & basic first aid kits:
http://www.nukepills.com/nuclear-reactor-maps.htm#ReactorMap1 (http://www.nukepills.com/nuclear-reactor-maps.htm#ReactorMap1)

Anyone know a virgin? - Well here's some Volcano's-
USGS Volcano Hazard Program - Map:
http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/ (http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/)

Greetings Our Friend:

You are sorely missed here, please come back, where ever you may be.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/04images/animations/Compass01.gif)


Attitudes are left at the door... we cannot allow THEM to win anymore by diversion or division.

The Collective desires cohesion and completeness...

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/04images/animations/Dove0011.gif)

tfw
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on May 28, 2012, 10:28:08 am
For watching Earthquakes I use the IRIS Seismic Monitor.

It is a great quick look tool that shows you today's quakes in Red yesterday in Orange and the last week in Yellow... 

A quick click will give you the last 30 days list in any area you highlight by picking the circle of the quake

(http://thetruthbehindthescenes.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/prtscr-capture_24.jpg) (http://www.iris.edu/seismon/)

http://www.iris.edu/seismon/


It is an awesome live monitor for the lay person as it shows instantly what is shaking :D


As to this cycle being 'normal' or not...

In our recorded history this cycle of large quakes is NOT normal... but since we have only been recording a few hundred years and before that only a few hundred more of written accounts...

It is not possible to say what is or is not 'normal' in the geological time span of the planet, solar activity or what is happening in the solar system...


There is ONE source of information on the planet that can give us a longer record...

the Lake Vostok Ice Core samples

(http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/1x8466599/lake_vostok_ice_core_bj4659.jpg)

These cores are taken from Antarctica and represent 415 THOUSAND years of ice layers. They are taken from the drilling at Vostok Base to reach a fresh water lake that is not frozen beneath miles of ice

(http://www.unitierra.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/C.jpg)

Like tree rings, the ice layers don't lie...  they tell the story of the Earth's climate over that 415,000 year period and what they show us is scary...

Here you can see a REGULAR cycle of the Earth's climate.  What is scary is that the warm periods are VERY short on a geological scale while the cold periods are very long and in three dips...

Also when the change occurs, you can see by the graph that it is NOT gradual but a sudden change over a few years...

And lastly... look at where we are today on that graph... if I were you I would lay in warm clothes blankets and firewood... I did :D

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47brotherthebig/04images/Antarctica/415k-year-temp-graph.jpg)


One thing about an ice age coming...  BEFORE it gets cold there will be a period of global warming. That warming changes the water salinity by adding melted fresh water... which then effects ocean currents that then effect the weather. There was a disaster film that showed this process... and how fast it can happen

I would recommend you all watch it

The Day After Tomorrow

(http://img.mota.ru/upload/wallpapers/2009/07/16/10/01/12378/movies_318-preview.jpg)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on May 28, 2012, 10:33:07 am
I would suggest that we look at and study the volcanic and seismic activity before previous ice ages if we can...

...because on a smaller scale temperature map showing highs and lows over our history there seems to be a correlation between such activity and climate changes. Here is a breakdown of recent history showing the smaller 'bumps' of our climate (like the mini ice age in the Medieval times that saw the invention of the fireplace to warm those now cold and drafty castles. That is also where tapestries came from... to hang on the wall for warmth)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Seas/2065311545_2abdf79551.jpg)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: hobbit on May 28, 2012, 10:54:21 am
The condition on the earths surface is a consequence of it's positioning relative to the solar system, and larger galatic spiral movements.
Tonight is a first quarter moon, it's smack above my head here in the shires, I can see it in bright sunlight.
The transit of venus is nearing.

been the geek I am, I bother to detect that which only oddballs like myself can, and I sure can.

If You think in terms of breathing in/out, then You have expansion and contraction involved, and if You think how a fridge operates , You have compression and de-compression.
That compression results in heat.
De-compression results in cold.

If You can then try and consider just what is compressing and de-compressing on a cyclic wave type pattern  that determines the condition upon this planet.

You would be best advised to start considering space as anything but EMPTY, just merely zones of compression and de-compression.

I would suggest that We are right in the vortex centre of a huge compression , so expect the unexpected, with ever increasing regurality and depth.
hobbit,
 going with the flows, they are huge right now.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Littleenki on May 28, 2012, 12:33:07 pm
Dang, Zorgon, you hit that nail on the head! Ive seen those graphs a few times before, and asked a few folks here in Fla, who call themselves meteorologists(:D) and got three different answers...all based on how global warming is the problem. I told them, it's not the problem, but it's the cause!

Those lake Vlady samples are the truth in strata, and cant be denied as fact. They instill a bit of fear in some on a base level, but dont really wake anyone up, until they hear the words"Ice Age".

The cores never lie, I heard from a BP guy here in Fla last year, and he told me there were many instances of geologists finding the same results while exploring for oil deposits, and they were told to keep it hushed. BP ought to tell it's folks to watch what they say, and to whom.LOL!

As someone who lives near and fishes the gulf stream, I have to say the temps have increased a couple of degrees in some spots we fish at, and the ph? Its way off most of the time, due to the surfactants BP used on the spill. Remember that? It's all still down there in a blob, and how many times Ive pulled anchor from a couple hundred feet with oil globbed on it, I cant count!

All that stuff TFW posted is factual info, and empirical data, so it's usable for research into when and what, so to keep an eye on the whole picture is a good idea. I think when the pinch point is reached, however, we wont need any graphs or data to tell us we are in deep doo doo. A beach full of dead fish, and algae blooms the size of Texas will be enough for us to see the damage firsthand, and then the prerequisite panic can ensue.

Hey, Thor, do you know how to fly fish? It might be a big plus soon, when the only food comes from the mountain streams, and creeks.

And that hydro setup, well, as an engineer, I think the system you have in that video will be too complex for the long run of power generation, as when its necessary to go off the grid, youll have to do too much spending and engineering to achieve results worthy of powering much more than a few battery chargers, or led lights.

Plus, if any of those fancy magnets or electronic stabilization circuits take a poop, youll not have a radio shack anymore to go get parts from.

I hate to shoot down any tech or ideas, but if the shtf, simplicity is key, and to harness those spinning magnets will require quite the apparatus, and of course, expenditure.

Remember, the vortex has a sweet spot, and at the center of it where the water pulls away, the velocity of the water is infinite, meaning anything that is set in the right part of the vortex will be effectively trapped in the fastest part of the whole spiral.

Im an advocate of using a simple reservoir setup, with subsequent manually controlled drain valves for differing times of year, that will allow for a controlled vortex to be spun up with the creek's water movement, and tied into a multiple alternator setup with step up transformers made of heavy, specially formed inductors(yes I have them designed and prototyped)that will essentially create the easiest system to give you constant power.

Think of it as a flyback system for your waterfall!

A few questions:
What is the head height of your source?
What is the cfm of the source?
What is the turbidity of the source?
What is the mean average water depth and the mean low and high points?

We may be a diggin' a nice big hole for the reservoir, to get the drop we need for the pressure required to spin the water wheel consistently. have lots of concrete on hand and a big supply of marcite or some other waterproofing for pools.

This system can be designed to use standard power company parts that will be everywhere after an event, and everything can be run through a controller that will do various things, and give various outputs for certain machinery.
110, 220, 208, 240, 480 3 phase, etc... you get the picture!
As Michael Keaton said in Mr Mom....whatever it takes!LOL!

As far as copper, dont worry, those power lines running up your hill will suffice for any copper needs, and a smelter will be another necessity, and lots of natural gas equipment, because youll be a-drillin for that eventually!

And those alternators? Hit every parking lot there is and start unbolting immediately after an event, to get the best parts available, and make sure to take the batteries, too.

I could pontificate all day on survival of the comfortable kind, but I dont have the typing fingers you do, so Ill stop here!!!:D

Back to weather, have you designed you rainwater collection system and filters yet?

If the rain isnt filled with fallout, that'll go a long way towards keeping us all hydrated while we toil in the organic hydroponic gardens that will be built within a walled enclosure, protected by snipers...

Ahhh, reality of these things...it is a fine line between ideas and execution, isnt it?

Cheers,
Littleenki
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: SarK0Y on May 28, 2012, 04:24:17 pm
1. Solar Activity.
2. insane deforestation makes lack of oxygen, droughts, vastly greenhouse effect. +Forests are natural fences against winds.
3. Water pollution is yet another very root 4 #2.
4. cyclic geological processes.     
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: SarK0Y on May 28, 2012, 06:34:37 pm
As someone who lives near and fishes the gulf stream, I have to say the temps have increased a couple of degrees in some spots we fish at, and the ph? Its way off most of the time, due to the surfactants BP used on the spill. Remember that? It's all still down there in a blob, and how many times Ive pulled anchor from a couple hundred feet with oil globbed on it, I cant count!

$hit always has been so predictable. GOM, Fukushima + new ones on the hold.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Linda Brown on May 28, 2012, 08:24:13 pm
Well, they have already figured that they can just tell all of us to go eat bugs and worms .
You think that I am kidding?

Check out the research programs going on right now which will supply us all with protein in the future. I shouldn't worry too much. Bugs are easy to grow....we just have to aquire a taste for them.

Its more cost effective than trying to raise cattle.... takes less hormones and chemicals in the feed..and of course the land requirement is so much less...... and actually is safer for us to eat because we are not dna connected to bugs all that much compared to warm blooded animals... so the incidence of dna mutations would be far less. Actually its safer raising and eating  bugs.

And they would stop being a pest and start being looked upon as a valued food supply.

I dunno. I have yet to try my first roasted.... hummmm... whatever....

If anyone could cook it well Littleenki... it would be you.

<g>  Linda
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Littleenki on May 28, 2012, 08:55:37 pm
Well, they have already figured that they can just tell all of us to go eat bugs and worms .
You think that I am kidding?

Check out the research programs going on right now which will supply us all with protein in the future. I shouldn't worry too much. Bugs are easy to grow....we just have to aquire a taste for them.

Its more cost effective than trying to raise cattle.... takes less hormones and chemicals in the feed..and of course the land requirement is so much less...... and actually is safer for us to eat because we are not dna connected to bugs all that much compared to warm blooded animals... so the incidence of dna mutations would be far less. Actually its safer raising and eating  bugs.

And they would stop being a pest and start being looked upon as a valued food supply.

I dunno. I have yet to try my first roasted.... hummmm... whatever....

If anyone could cook it well Littleenki... it would be you.

<g>  Linda
I would gladly make you a cricket confit, Linda, if thats ok with you?
:D http://people.howstuffworks.com/entomophagy3.htm
Ive had roasted mealworms, and they are delightful, like almond crunchies!
Now, the crickets, you gotta cook em down for hours, and draw off the fats, and thats cricket confit.
28 percent protein, and mm  mm good!
Cheers!
And, mangia!
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: bobathome on June 01, 2012, 08:01:42 pm
Actually i believe it all started,one Sunday morning, no,
before that, i believe it first caught my attention , when i read ,
"chandlers wobble " stopped.

yup just up and stopped.
no one new why.
 and then it just,
started again.
totally impossable.
it is against the Laws of Physics,
an Object in Motion, etc,
i dont think to this day that it can be explained.

10 years ago? maybe?

any updates?
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Linda Brown on June 01, 2012, 08:44:01 pm
For reasons that are probably solely my own... your use of the word " Wobble" stopped me in my reading tracks.... but I have to admit the rest of your message makes no sense to me.  What am I missing? And would you please fill me in?


"chandlers wobble " stopped.

yup just up and stopped.
no one new why.
 and then it just,,,
started again.
totally impossable.
it is against the Laws of Physics,,
an Object in Motion,,etc,,
i dont think to this day that it can be explained.

10 years ago? maybe?

any updates?

Chandlers Wobble??????    Linda
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: bobathome on June 01, 2012, 08:46:52 pm
:)

http://www.michaelmandeville.com/earthmonitor/polarmotion/2006_wobble_anomaly.htm

luv it :)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Linda Brown on June 01, 2012, 09:23:02 pm
And from that link

This fascinating conjecture

"In any event, we may have livid proof in front of our eyes of Cayce’s famous prediction about the shifting of the poles.  During the 1930’s he predicted, in answering questions about future changes which would impact humanity, that a shifting of the poles, or a new cycle would begin, in the years 2000/2001, eventually to culminate in catastrophic upheavals.

We are very close on Cayce’s schedule.  In fact, this current wobble cycle began in 1999/2000 and is closing or terminating abruptly leaving us hanging in mid-air so to speak, waiting for the outstretched ballerina of the Earth to regain her sense of balance after an ambitious leap…

which….

she may be unable to do….

This may be the beginning of an escalating slide, one which may take many more years, even a couple more decades, to fully play out.  I hope a couple more decades.  I am not ready. Are you?

Given the profound seriousness of all this I have spend the last several days pouring over my tables and graphs of polar motion, especially the circular plots. I have tried to compare them in a systematic way to come to a 100 year perspective.  This is not easily done and in fact is impossible without a deep dive into the attics of geophysics which are not on the Iway.  The data series is just not adequate.

I find it interesting that this scientist would even mention Cayce...... do you?   Linda
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: bobathome on June 01, 2012, 09:32:10 pm
well from a purely scientific view,i would like too know,
why it started back up,
keep researching, :)
almost there.

 yes it did, just statred back up,

 :)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: bobathome on June 02, 2012, 12:49:14 am
well from a purely scientific view,
its 

Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs.

crickets should go too recipies :)

no offence.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Linda Brown on June 02, 2012, 12:55:26 am
No offense taken

However if you think that eating crickets should be relegated to a recipe section of this conversation because its not related????? you are not getting the thrust of it here!

Worsening weather. Earthquakes, Volcanoes.... eating bugs!  All part of one big situation!!!   ;)  Linda
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: bobathome on June 02, 2012, 01:10:07 am
first one too spot the most recent development,
pertaining too this thread,
gets a BLOODHOUND AWARD.
i pick.
cause i know what it is . :)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: bobathome on June 02, 2012, 01:11:51 am
too late,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2153200/Last-months-solar-flare-created-mysterious-pulse-Earth-answer-suns-blast.html
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: bobathome on June 02, 2012, 01:15:03 am
too late,,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2153200/Last-months-solar-flare-created-mysterious-pulse-Earth-answer-suns-blast.html

 ********** PEGASUS RESEARCH CONSORTIUM**********

thats research.
lets discuss. ltr.
going too bed.

:)

nice bunch.

:)


Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Linda Brown on June 02, 2012, 01:21:21 am
Goodnight Kiddo.   Linda
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: SarK0Y on June 02, 2012, 03:05:38 pm
yet another piece  (http://rapidcityjournal.com/news/pine-beetle-infested-trees-also-produce-haze-study-says/article_6558d964-e125-5474-aca8-568bd031614a.html) has to be put to Entire Puzzle.  ;)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: bobathome on June 02, 2012, 03:30:09 pm
yet another piece  (http://rapidcityjournal.com/news/pine-beetle-infested-trees-also-produce-haze-study-says/article_6558d964-e125-5474-aca8-568bd031614a.html) has to be put to Entire Puzzle.  ;)
yup,

I do What Me'n'Universum  want :-)

well tech. should be galaxsum want :)

no offence.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: SarK0Y on June 02, 2012, 03:45:07 pm
yup,

I do What Me'n'Universum  want :-)

well tech. should be galaxsum want :)

no offence.

Disease of Forests is real Climatic weapon, but not haarp  ;)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: bobathome on June 02, 2012, 04:00:32 pm
Disease of Forests is real Climatic weapon, but not haarp  ;)

harp,,is an elf. period.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 02, 2012, 10:23:27 pm
And from that link

This fascinating conjecture

"In any event, we may have livid proof in front of our eyes of Cayce’s famous prediction about the shifting of the poles.  During the 1930’s he predicted, in answering questions about future changes which would impact humanity, that a shifting of the poles, or a new cycle would begin, in the years 2000/2001, eventually to culminate in catastrophic upheavals.

We are very close on Cayce’s schedule.  In fact, this current wobble cycle began in 1999/2000 and is closing or terminating abruptly leaving us hanging in mid-air so to speak, waiting for the outstretched ballerina of the Earth to regain her sense of balance after an ambitious leap…

which….

she may be unable to do….

This may be the beginning of an escalating slide, one which may take many more years, even a couple more decades, to fully play out.  I hope a couple more decades.  I am not ready. Are you?

Given the profound seriousness of all this I have spend the last several days pouring over my tables and graphs of polar motion, especially the circular plots. I have tried to compare them in a systematic way to come to a 100 year perspective.  This is not easily done and in fact is impossible without a deep dive into the attics of geophysics which are not on the Iway.  The data series is just not adequate.

I find it interesting that this scientist would even mention Cayce...... do you?   Linda

Linda,

I know this is off topic but it has been driving Me bananas.  I note that You highlight most of Your quotes in pink.  It is likely My screen, with its red snow (bad screen weather? [grin]), but I cannot tell the difference between the pink and the white. I can easily distinguish yellow, though...  (Trying to determine what is something You are saying from something You are quoting is the issue.)

Back to the weather.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: sky otter on June 07, 2012, 08:17:48 pm
we have been having very nasty storms here..but wow to this..3 feet of hail.. :o

Hail, flooding swamp cars in Colorado
More severe weather expected after 6 twisters also reported
(http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/13/55/53/83/12060710.jpg)

By Miguel Llanos
msnbc.com
updated 6/7/2012 1:32:50 PM ET 2012-06-07T17:32:50
Denver and other parts of Colorado were told to expect a second straight day of extreme weather -- anything from tornadoes, hail and flooding -- after Wednesday storms that made for surreal scenes, including some cars swamped by hail and floodwater.

 KOAA-TV
Hail and floodwaters swamped this vehicle in Colorado Springs Wednesday night. A rescuer is seen helping someone from the vehicle, in this video clip from NBC Affiliate KOAA-TV
Six tornadoes touched down across northeast Colorado on Wednesday, including one near Denver's airport, though none caused any damage.

But golf-ball sized hail punched holes in car windshields and combined with heavy rain to flood streets in Colorado Springs, where NBC affiliate KOAA-TV lost count of the numerous water rescues.

"Holy hail," was how KOAA-TV anchor Rob Quirk began his broadcast Wednesday night.

KOAA video showed a person being rescued from a car swamped by hail and water at an intersection near a mall, one of 10 rescues at that site alone.

By Thursday morning, floodwaters had receded but some areas of Colorado Springs, as well as some Denver suburbs, were still coated in compacted hail.

One area south of Denver had knee-deep hail still piled up in a ditch, NBC affiliate KUSA-TV reported.

"It looks just like winter," commented KUSA-TV anchor Gary Shapiro, "except the grass is green."

© 2012 msnbc.com Reprints

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47722386/
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Linda Brown on June 07, 2012, 08:49:45 pm
AMY.... I can put the quotes up and put it in italics. Would that be better? sorry you were having a hard time with the pink!  Linda
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 07, 2012, 09:55:08 pm
AMY.... I can put the quotes up and put it in italics. Would that be better? sorry you were having a hard time with the pink!  Linda

That would help greatly!  Not a problem overall.  [smile]

we have been having very nasty storms here..but wow to this..3 feet of hail.. :o

Yeah, I got a tweet that said Colorado was getting megaloads of hail.  Wow!
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: sky otter on June 10, 2012, 10:45:05 am

it continues
 ::)

Record rainfall inundates central Gulf coast
..PENSACOLA, Fla. (AP) — Record amounts of rain dropped on the central Gulf coast Saturday, causing what could be millions of dollars in flood damage in the Pensacola area alone with more rain on the way.

The National Weather Service said 13.11 inches fell on Pensacola over 24 hours by Saturday, coming close to the city's all-time record of 15.29 inches set in 1934.

The rain hit a lull by Saturday night, but NWS meteorologist Jason Beaman said they expected more showers and thunderstorms overnight and more intense rain again on Sunday and into Monday.

The Florida Panhandle's Escambia County declared a state of emergency. Sheriff David Morgan told the Pensacola News Journal that he estimated the damage around the county at around $20 million. The sheriff's department's central booking building was among the buildings flooded.

Emergency shelters were opened at a few local schools for people who were urged to evacuate from low-lying areas, the newspaper reported. Thousands were without power. Neighboring Santa Rosa County had about 40 homes flooded.

Streets were flooded throughout Mobile, Ala., which got 5.79 inches of rain. County authorities warned residents to stay off the roads until the waters receded and workers could look for damage and downed utilities.
http://news.yahoo.com/record-rainfall-inundates-central-gulf-coast-011317160.html
..

By Kristina Pydynowski, Senior Meteorologist
Jun 10, 2012; 12:51 PM 
Photo by Jorgen Udvang/Photos.com.
 The tropical downpours further soaking the central Gulf Coast today will continue to expand northward into Tuesday, eventually reaching the Northeast.

More drenching showers and thunderstorms will stream onto the central Gulf Coast through tonight, adding to the extreme rain totals that put Pensacola, Fla., and Mobile, Ala., Saturday.

Saturday is now Pensacola's second wettest day on record with a total of 13.13 inches. The 5.79 inches that soaked Mobile Saturday shattered the day's rainfall record of 1.39 inches from 1968.

Additional bouts of heavy rain that followed earlier this morning put roads under one to two feet of water near Covington, La., located just north of Lake Pontchartrain.

Flash flooding remains a serious concern throughout the central Gulf Coast into tonight as the drenching showers and thunderstorms persist. Low-lying and poor drainage areas and places along streams and rivers are most susceptible.

While avoiding flooding issues Saturday, New Orleans may not be so lucky as this weekend comes to a close.

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/gulf-coast-flooding-downpours/66366
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Littleenki on June 10, 2012, 08:47:28 pm
I have to tell ya Sky, we got over six inches in three days here near tampa, and it was the most wet week in years.

I cant even imagine 13 inches, wow!

I will say, my plants are perking up quite nicely though!

Hope you do ok with the deluge, and where is that thread about Noah's flood when ya need it?
Cheers!
Littleenki
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Caver78 on July 22, 2012, 10:14:41 am
for no particular reason.....

is there a way to correlate some of these storms geographically to see if what's going on with the earth's core is attracting them to specific spots? Or at least magnifying their intensity?

One pattern I noticed is the counterclockwise motion. In extremely simplistic terms [I'm a twit] it's a bringing in of energy from the atmosphere. It would seem to me, something would also have to be ''pulling'' from ground level as well.

Maybe it's possible by looking at the fields in flux of the earths core to begin predicting ''hot spots'' of nasty weather?

....lol...go easy on me....I'm a self admitted noob an uneducated goof!
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: sky otter on July 24, 2012, 08:09:49 pm


yikes... ::)



Greenland Ice Melt, Measured By NASA Satellites, Reaches Unprecedented Level
Posted: 07/24/2012 2:07 pm Updated: 07/24/2012 5:56 pm

Unprecedented melting of Greenland's ice sheet this month has stunned NASA scientists and has highlighted broader concerns that the region is losing a remarkable amount of ice overall.

According to a NASA press release, about half of Greenland's surface ice sheet naturally melts during an average summer. But the data from three independent satellites this July, analyzed by NASA and university scientists, showed that in less than a week, the amount of thawed ice sheet surface skyrocketed from 40 percent to 97 percent.

In over 30 years of observations, satellites have never measured this amount of melting, which reaches nearly all of Greenland's surface ice cover.

When Son Nghiem of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory observed the recent melting phenomenon, he said in the NASA press release, "This was so extraordinary that at first I questioned the result: Was this real or was it due to a data error?"

Scientists at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, University of Georgia-Athens and City University of New York all confirmed the remarkable ice melt.

NASA's cryosphere program manager, Tom Wagner, credited the power of satellites for observing the melt and explained to The Huffington Post that, although this specific event may be part of a natural variation, "We have abundant evidence that Greenland is losing ice, probably because of global warming, and it's significantly contributing to sea level rise."

Wagner said that ice is clearly thinning around the periphery, changing Greenland's overall ice mass, and he believes this is primarily due to warming ocean waters "eating away at the ice." He cautiously added, "It seems likely that's correlated with anthropogenic warming."

This specific extreme melt occurred in large part due to an unusual weather pattern over Greenland this year, what the NASA press release describes as a series of "heat domes," or an "unusually strong ridge of warm air."

Notable melting occurred in specific regions of Greenland, such as the area around Summit Station, located two miles above sea level. Not since 1889 has this kind of melting occurred, according to ice core analysis described in NASA's press release.

Goddard glaciologist Lora Koenig said that similar melting events occur about every 150 years, and this event is consistent with that schedule, citing the previous 1889 melt. But, she added, "if we continue to observe melting events like this in upcoming years, it will be worrisome."

"One of the big questions is 'What's happening in the Arctic in general?'" Wagner said to HuffPost.

Just last week, another unusual event occurred in the region: the calving of an iceberg twice the size of Manhattan from Greenland's Petermann Glacier.

Over the past few months, separate studies have emerged that suggest humans are playing a "dominant role" in ocean warming, and that specific regions of the world, such as the U.S. East Coast, are increasingly vulnerable to sea level rise.

Wagner explained that in recent years, studies have observed thinning sea ice and "dramatic" overall changes. He was clear, "We don’t want to lose sight of the fact that Greenland is losing a tremendous amount of ice overall."


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NASA CAPTION: Extent of surface melt over Greenland’s ice sheet on July 8 (left) and July 12 (right). Measurements from three satellites showed that on July 8, about 40 percent of the ice sheet had undergone thawing at or near the surface. In just a few days, the melting had dramatically accelerated and an estimated 97 percent of the ice sheet surface had thawed by July 12. In the image, the areas classified as “probable melt” (light pink) correspond to those sites where at least one satellite detected surface melting. The areas classified as “melt” (dark pink) correspond to sites where two or three satellites detected surface melting. The satellites are measuring different physical properties at different scales and are passing over Greenland at different times. As a whole, they provide a picture of an extreme melt event about which scientists are very confident. Credit: Nicolo E. DiGirolamo, SSAI/NASA GSFC, and Jesse Allen, NASA Earth Observatory

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/24/greenland-ice-melt-nasa_n_1698129.html
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on July 24, 2012, 08:23:51 pm
As the Ice Melts......

...and Sea Levels Rise...

... Bill Cosby asks... How long can you tread water?

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Seas/jurassic_seaway_900.jpg)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: deuem on July 24, 2012, 11:58:49 pm
Typhoon here the past few days, Lots of things blowing in the wind, Some trees dowm and a lot of new fresh water.
 
As long as no one gets hurt, the benifit of this is that it cleans up the place. It is like power washing your car. The rain and wind are so stong it gets everywhere and does a good job cleaning. All you have to do is stay out of the way and have a home that can take it. In the concrete jungle, they all can take it and a lot worse.  Deuem
Oh, I can tread water for several hours, but that ain't gonna be long enough! Need a boat!
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Amaterasu on July 25, 2012, 04:05:00 am
I note They didn't mention how this " anthropogenic warming" is affecting all the planets in the solar system.  Seems this "natural cycle," the likes of which have never been seen before since 1887 (huh?) is Our fault!  Efforts to resurrect cap & trade, Methinks.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: petrus4 on July 25, 2012, 04:15:54 am
Reminds me of a joke I heard online, back in 2005 or so.

"Want some beach front property in Florida?  Buy around 15 miles inland from the current coastline, and wait 20 years or so." ;)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: SarK0Y on July 25, 2012, 04:21:16 am
Typhoon here the past few days, Lots of things blowing in the wind, Some trees dowm and a lot of new fresh water.
 
As long as no one gets hurt, the benifit of this is that it cleans up the place. It is like power washing your car. The rain and wind are so stong it gets everywhere and does a good job cleaning. All you have to do is stay out of the way and have a home that can take it. In the concrete jungle, they all can take it and a lot worse.  Deuem
Oh, I can tread water for several hours, but that ain't gonna be long enough! Need a boat!
Deuem, my the Best Wishes to ye. Hard Times are needed to make Strong People Stronger  ;)
Amici, perhaps this info (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/greenland-ice-sheet-had-biggest-thaw-since-1973-this-month-scientists-say/2012/07/24/gJQASlJa7W_story.html) already'w posted, the event seems as precursor 4 new floods & more furious droughts + redistribution of such the colossal Water's masses can be very efficient to trigger some quakes over the Globe.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 25, 2012, 05:59:40 am
Reminds me of a joke I heard online, back in 2005 or so.

"Want some beach front property in Florida?  Buy around 15 miles inland from the current coastline, and wait 20 years or so." ;)

Greetings:

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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Littleenki on July 25, 2012, 07:32:32 am


Quote
That's why we sold the condo in West Palm Beach and moved to Rabun County.

Hey, y'all, I bought 20 years ago + and still dont have my waterfront property!LOL!

I do have a house on the highest point in Pinellas county, and when looking at a flood insurance map, we arent required to even have it.

As for the weather changing...as I observe my almanac Ive kept for the last 20 years, I see that we have never had such high winds during July, and as a matter of fact the average wind speed in July here has been around 6-8 mph out of the West or Southwest.

For the last few days we have had winds of well over 15 mph and no discernable gusts to speak of. Noaa says its not that unusual, but my little almanac doesnt lie, like their windspeed indicators do at the NDBC site, where they vary wildly with my own super accurate Davis anomometer here on my roof.

And I am also seeing another bit of shifty behaviour where the local weather people are using the composite reflectivity link for their radar to make it look like the storms are way stronger...theyll say its raining cats and dogs, and there isnt a drop.

Turn up the gain, billy bob! We be gettin' more viewers!
What do they have to GAIN from misstating the radar data? FEAR in the minds of everyone who worries about rain and storms, and more frightened people means more viewers to watch their crappy commercials while they stare at the radar waiting for rain.

Disinfo from NOAA? Damn everyone's in on the act now, and it seems HAARP is becoming more of a nuisance than a benefit.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: sky otter on July 25, 2012, 11:59:27 am

well i'm in a good spot so i hope you guys get boats or move soon - if you have to ::)



Antarctic: Grand Canyon-sized rift 'speeding ice melt'
By Richard Black
 Environment correspondent, BBC News


 
A rift in the Antarctic rock as deep as the Grand Canyon is increasing ice melt from the continent, researchers say.

A UK team found the Ferrigno rift using ice-penetrating radar, and showed it to be about 1.5km (1 mile) deep.

Antarctica is home to a geological rift system where new crust is being formed, meaning the eastern and western halves of the continent are slowly separating.

The team writes in Nature journal that the canyon is bringing more warm sea water to the ice sheet, hastening melt.

The Ferrigno rift lies close to the Pine Island Glacier where Nasa scientists found a giant crack last year; but the newly discovered feature is not thought to be influencing the "Pig", as it is known.

The rift lies beneath the Ferrigno Ice Stream on a stretch of coast so remote that it has only been visited once previously.

 The British Antarctic Survey (BAS) project revisited the area two years ago in the person of Aberdeen University glaciologist Robert Bingham.

The plan was to make ground observations that could link to the satellite data showing unexpectedly pronounced ice loss from the area.

The team towed ice-penetrating radar kit behind a snowmobile, traversing a total of about 2,500km (1,500 miles).

"What we found is that lying beneath the ice there is a large valley, parts of which are approximately a mile deeper than the surrounding landscape," said Dr Bingham.

"If you stripped away all of the ice here today, you'd see a feature every bit as dramatic as the huge rift valleys you see in Africa and in size as significant as the [US] Grand Canyon.

"This is at odds with the flat ice surface that we were driving across - without these measurements we would never have known it was there."

 (http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/13/55/53/83/_6175910.jpg)
The Ferrigno rift extends into a seabed trough, called Belgica.

The scientists suggest that during Ice Ages, when sea levels were much lower than at present, the rift would have channelled a major ice stream through the trough.

Now, they suggest, the roles are reversed, with the walls of the Belgica trough channelling relatively warm sea water back to the ice edge.


(http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/13/55/53/83/_6175911.jpg)


The nearby Pine Island Glacier appears set to calve a 900 sq km iceberg Penetrating between the Antarctic bedrock and the ice that lies on it and lubricating the join, the water allows ice to flow faster into the sea.

"We know that the ice loss from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is governed by delivery of warm water, and that the warm water is coming along channels that were previously scoured by glaciers," said Prof David Vaughan of BAS.

"So the geology and the present rate of ice loss are intricately linked, and they feed back - if you have fast-flowing ice, that delivers ice to the edge where it can be impacted by warm water, and warm water makes the ice flow faster," he told BBC News.

Prof Vaughan doubted there would be more such features around the West Antarctic coast, though in the remoter still regions of the east, it was a possibility.

Ice loss from West Antarctica is believed to contribute about 10% to global sea level rise.

But how the West Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets respond to warmer temperatures is the biggest unknown by far in trying to predict how fast the waters will rise over the coming century and beyond.

A total melt of either sheet would raise sea levels globally by several metres.

East Antarctica, by contrast, is so cold that the ice is projected to remain solid for centuries.

"Since the last Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report [in 2007], which highlighted uncertainties connected with ice sheets, almost every significant piece of research we've produced has increased the significance of the ocean for West Antarctica and Greenland," said Prof Vaughan.

"There are changes in precipitation now and in future; but the really big, potentially fast, changes are connected to the oceans, and the goal for us is to model that system."

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18959399

................................

Warm ocean driving Antarctic ice loss
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17803693



Antarctic's hidden world revealed
An animated view of Antarctica, revealing its great mountains and deepest depressions
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15735625



Map tracks Antarctica on the move
Scientists have produced what they say is the first complete map of how the ice moves across Antarctica.

Built from images acquired by radar satellites, the visualisation details all the great glaciers and the smaller ice streams that feed them.

The map has been published online by Science magazine.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14592547



British Antarctic Survey (BAS) is one of the world's leading environmental research centres and is responsible for the UK's national scientific activities in Antarctica.
http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Littleenki on July 25, 2012, 12:22:22 pm
Great post, Sky! Antarctica has been popping up a lot in the USGS world lately, and the Russians have been down there for years, especially finding the great lake there with liquid water beneath km's of ice.

Lake Vostok....http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46309166/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/russian-scientists-reach-lake-under-antarctica/

 (http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/10/56/66/2289043/3/628x471.jpg)

Cheers!
Le
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: COSMO on July 27, 2012, 06:45:16 pm
Weather gone crazy!  On top of the hottest year on record and a drought comparable to the dust bowl years, we have had some very intense storms.  Here's a recent one that New Yorkers got to experience:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179504/Superstorm-strikes-East-Coast-At-300-000-power-TORNADO-sweeps-New-York.html

Astonishing images of the moment apocalyptic 'derecho' superstorm battered New York killing two

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/27/article-2179504-143F4C55000005DC-297_964x726.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/27/article-2179504-143F6E0B000005DC-285_964x398.jpg)

Looks like s scene from Ghostbusters!



Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on July 27, 2012, 07:19:15 pm
Every Major Odd storm has the 'Storm Spirit' easily visible in it. This one is no different. He is right there dead center in the first image.

You can call me crazy, but they are there. I have collected them for years. The following clip is rotated 90 degrees right... but you can spot it in the original image

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Earth/Clouds/NY_2012.png)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: COSMO on July 27, 2012, 07:49:51 pm
Wow!  You are right!  Here's one in a hurricane over Bikini Bottom!

(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh605/subatomic_dude/spongebobhurricane.jpg)

Sorry couldn't resist....hahha   ;D ;D ;D

But seriously, post some more of your pics, I DO want to see!  I have seen some interesting things in the past that gave me a sense of something or some energy being represented in clouds.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on July 27, 2012, 07:59:40 pm
Just a couple.. :P Needs a whole section :D

Cloud Spirit
The Watcher
Noctilucent Cloud, Denmark


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Earth/Eyes/Eyes_000.jpg)
Photo Credit: Anders Mørup-Petersen Copenhagen, Denmark

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Earth/Eyes/Eyes_000a.jpg)

Black Sea Storm December 2007, the eye of?
This one was visible for a long period and video taped (see below)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Earth/Eyes/Russia_001.png)

[youtube]AOoWfUw-jNM[/youtube]
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: COSMO on July 27, 2012, 08:08:31 pm
Woa!  That second one is very freaky, gave me goosebumps! 

Noctilucent clouds are an interesting phenomenon, I have seen pics of them and read that they are increasing in regularity.  Wonder what that means?

If you ever find the time, it would be an interesting thread Z!
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: sky otter on July 28, 2012, 09:30:24 am


yeah.. weather out of control here....stinkin hot and dry and then intense freaking storms
and i luv storms...
but these have been scary.
.i have never heard thunder go on for so long in the same spot..had to be a good 5 minutes right over top of us..
and now cool and damp....

can't help but think of the cayce stuff i read so long ago
about the growing season being too short to actually grow crops..i think we are there

layin in some extra supplies while i can still get em...doesn't matter how much cash you have if
there isn't anything to buy..and if i'm wrong i will just consider it helping the economy..lol
nothing will go to waste...


gotta go pick up limbs..only lost a couple of young trees..we;ve been very lucky


 ::)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: sky otter on August 09, 2012, 09:12:51 am


Z
i know there was a thread  and you posted some faces in the sky..spirit stuff

but i can't find it..

if you think this fits.. please move it

otherwise.. just wierd skies lately and this was as i went to take some squash pics for deuem just a bit ago


11:47 am est
(http://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/13/55/53/83/hpim3022.jpg)

(http://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/13/55/53/83/hpim3023.jpg)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Shasta56 on August 09, 2012, 10:21:35 am
Otterpop, I got chills when I looked at those pics.  I was meditating on the matrix last night, and that's exactly what I saw.  I also saw what Matrix Traveller is experiencing, right down to the colors.  I pm'd him about,  and he confirmed what I was seeing.  I forgot to save the pm copy in my outbox, but he has my permission to share it if he wishes.

Shasta
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: COSMO on August 18, 2012, 05:08:09 pm
This happened last month, but I did not see this photo.  Wouldn't it scare the crap outa ya to see that barreling towards you?  :o

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/18/article-0-1497E6ED000005DC-114_964x639.jpg)


Weather gone wild. Amazing National Geographic pictures show extreme natural disasters hitting the U.S.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2190397/Weather-gone-wild-Amazing-National-Geographic-pictures-extreme-natural-disasters-hitting-U-S.html#ixzz23whzHoEt

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: sky otter on August 19, 2012, 07:56:17 am


whoaaaaaaa...that looks biblical   (http://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/13/55/53/83/affrai10.gif)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: 1Worldwatcher on August 19, 2012, 08:00:11 am
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SOLAR ACTIVITY PICKS UP: Following a week of quiet, solar activity is picking up again with a series of M-class solar flares off the sun's northeastern limb.  So far none of the eruptions has been Earth-directed.  This could change, however, with the approach of an active farside sunspot that appears set to turn toward our planet in the days ahead.

http://www.spaceweather.com

There is more too come, and it is so strange because we , as a species have never experienced this day and age of our cosmic and earths natural cycles. IMHO

1Worldwatcher
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 26, 2012, 01:24:47 pm
Greenland Ice Melt
Was Predicted In Advance


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Image of the great Greenland melt courtesy NASA.

The image above is based on data from the Indian Oceansat-2 satellite and shows that on 12 July 2012 virtually all of the Greenland ice sheet surface was melting.

The highest point on the ice sheet, Summit at 3,200 meters saw temperatures at 36 degrees! The melt areas can be detected by the albedo of the ice sheet and this can be confirmed by a network of automated surface stations that send data via satellites.



(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/IMG_3146-2.jpg)

When temps. approach freezing flights to support science on the Greenland ice cap become very difficult. This is my picture from NEEM Ice core site north of Summit in the middle of the ice cap. It took 4 tries to get enough speed to take off the day we left on that LC-130.


Daily surface temperatures in June-August 2012 have peaked more than 5 C (~9 F) warmer for the whole ice sheet than the 2000-2009 daily averages according to my analysis of ice surface temperatures from  daily NASA MODIS MOD11 satellite derived Land Surface Temperature (LST) retrievals. Over the highest elevations, surface temperatures were nearly 10 C (~18 F) warmer than in the 2000?s decade, leading to an area of ice sheet surface melting, unprecedented in the satellite observational record beginning in 1978.


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Fig. 1. Greenland clear sky ice surface temperature anomaly relative to the 2000-2009 baseline.

To a first approximation, when ice sheet temperature increases, its reflectivity decreases (Box et al. 2012).


After a low temperatures 10-13 August, 2012 the surface reflectivity of sunlight (a.k.a. albedo) increased from the accumulation of fresh bright snow (Fig. 2). Then as surface temperatures rose again, above one standard deviation of the 2000-2009 average, the ice sheet albedo again dropped 18-23 August, 2012 below previous observations (since 2000), especially at the intermediate elevations of 1000-1500 m where melting in all likelihood remains active this year.

As reported by Marco Tedesco, 2012 melting is already setting the record since the late 1950s, and with this late melt season albedo drop and high surface temperature anomaly, this “Goliath” melt has got to be growing.


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Fig. 2. Daily Greenland ice sheet reflectivity (a.k.a. albedo) values spanning nearly 13 years; 2000-2012.


The daily albedo anomaly map (Fig. 3) indicates widespread low reflectivity, especially at the ice sheet periphery where surface elevations are lower, the atmosphere is warmer, and melting persists. Positive reflectivity anomalies over the northwest ice sheet suggest the return and persistence of fresh snow.



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ig. 3. Daily albedo anomaly map.

About the surface temperature data

Land surface temperature MODIS thermal infrared observations enable retrieval of land surface temperature (LST) under cloud-free conditions at 1 km horizontal resolution. The MODIS MOD11A1 data product is based on daily averaged LST retrievals from swath data and a split-window algorithm using MODIS thermal bands 31 (11 ?m) and 32 (12 ?m) (Wan et al., 2002). These data have a RMS error 1 deg. C in comparison with independent in-situ observations (Wan et al., 2008), with higher RMS errors found over Greenland (Hall et al., 2008a; Hall et al., 2008b; Koenig and Hall, 2010).


Having spent two weeks at the NEEM ice core site in 2010 I can tell you that it is a usually very cold place. It did reach -3C the day of my departure and the ski equipped  LC130 took 4 tries to get enough speed to take off on the soft snow. I imagine that it would be nearly impossible for any flights to and from Greenland during that week but I hear that temperatures have now dropped back to 21st century summer levels.


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Automated weather station in Northern Greenland near NEEM. My pic.


Now, imagine you are an expert on Greenland ice, and you write a paper that predicts this very thing might happen within the next decade. Imagine further that the paper has been accepted, and while waiting for it to be published for the rest of the scientific community to read, that the very thing you predicted..HAPPENS!

Meet Dr. Jason Box of the Byrd Polar Research Center at The Ohio State Univ. He co-authored a paper with other well-known experts like Konrad Steffen and the abstract says this:

“Abnormally strong anticyclonic circulation, associated with a persistent summer North Atlantic Oscillation extreme since 2007 enabled three amplifying mechanisms to maximize the albedo feedback:

(1) increased warm (south) air advection along the western ice sheet increased surface sensible heating that in turn enhanced snow grain metamorphic rates, further reducing albedo;

(2) increased surface downward shortwave flux, leading to more surface heating and further albedo reduction; and

(3) reduced snowfall rates sustained low albedo, maximizing surface solar heating, progressively lowering albedo over multiple years. The summer net infrared and solar radiation for the high elevation accumulation area approached positive values during this period.

Thus, it is reasonable to expect 100% melt area over the ice sheet within another similar decade of warming.”

The cite is: Box, J. E., Fettweis, X., Stroeve, J. C., Tedesco, M., Hall, D. K., and Steffen, K.: Greenland ice sheet albedo feedback: thermodynamics and atmospheric drivers, The Cryosphere Discuss., 6, 593-634, doi:10.5194/tcd-6-593-2012, 2012
All of this is on Dr. Box’s blog at http://www.meltfactor.org/blog/. The accepted paper is here (http://bprc.osu.edu/~jbox/temp/Box%20et%20al.%202012%20-%20TCD%20-%20resubmitted%20after%20review%20round%202.pdf).


NASA says it was Son Nghiem of the JPL who spotted the sudden melt in the Indian satellite data. He almost couldn’t believe is eyes I hear. At the same time, as all of this is underway, the Arctic Ocean ice is once again flirting with the all time record low. The NSIDC today released an update on the summer melt and if there is not a new record this year, it will certainly rank as one of the biggest melts on record in the Arctic.

The news media and the public want to ascribe one reason for this melt. It is far from being that simple. Can this event be blames on solely on climate change? No, of course not. The ice core record shows this has happened before. It seems to happen about once every 150 years or so, but don’t use that to claim it is not related to climate change.

The fact that it’s happened before does not negate the fact that the Arctic has warmed signficantly over the past 100 years. The loss of sea ice is also almost certainly changing weather patterns that will lead to increasingly warm weather on the icecap.



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Figure 3. The massive 46 square-mile iceberg two times the size of Manhattan that calved from Greenland's Petermann Glacier on July 16, 2012, as seen on July 21, 2012, using MODIS satellite imagery. Image credit: NASA.



Here is what the paper about to be published says about it:

In the 12 years beginning in 2000, the reduced albedo combined with a significant increase in downward solar irradiance yielded an accumulation area net radiation increase from -0.9 to -0.2Wm^2. Another similar decade may be sufficient to shift the average summer accumulation area radiation budget from negative to positive, resulting in an abrupt ice sheet melt area increase.

The ice sheet mass budget deficit is therefore expected to become more sensitive to increasing temperatures via the ice albedo feedback, especially in negative summer NAO index conditions [which did persist in 2012].

Future work should therefore be concerned with understanding potential tipping points in ice sheet melt regime as the average radiation budget shifts from negative (cooling) to positive (heating), as it seems the threshold of this has just been reached.

It will take some time, perhaps years for the cold content of the firn to be sufficiently eroded to allow continuous summer melting and an ice sheet surface characterized by 100% melt extent. Further warming would only hasten the amplification of melting that the albedo feedback permits.


I’m beginning to think that the summer of 2012 will be looked back on as the year the public finally understood just what the world’s scientists have been telling them for the past 15-20 years. Our climate is changing, and this is just the beginning unless we get a handle on our carbon emissions.

Yes, there are a lot of unknowns, but the basics are well understood, despite the shrill voices of the dwindling minority whose political beliefs make it impossible to except the statements of every major scientific body on the planet.


Works Cited

      Box, J. E., Fettweis, X., Stroeve, J. C., Tedesco, M., Hall, D. K., and Steffen, K.: Greenland ice sheet albedo feedback: thermodynamics and atmospheric drivers, The Cryosphere, 6, 821-839, doi:10.5194/tc-6-821-2012, 2012. open access

      Hall, D. K., Williams Jr., R. S., Luthcke, S. B., and Digirolamo, N. E.: Greenland ice sheet surface temperature, melt and mass loss: 2000–2006, J. Glaciol., 54, 81–93, doi:10.3189/002214308784409170, 2008a.

      Hall, D. K. J. E. Box, K. Casey, S. J. Hook, C. A. Shuman, K. Steffen, Comparison of satellite-derived and in-situ observations of ice and snow surface temperatures over Greenland, Remote Sensing of Environment, 2008b

      Koenig, L. S., and D. K. Hall, 2010: Comparison of satellite, thermochron and station temperatures at Summit, Greenland, during the winter of 2008/09. J. Glaciol., 56, 735–741.


Note: There are some other very good blog posts on the big Greenland melt. Links below:

MELTFACTOR.ORG (http://www.meltfactor.org/blog/) (Jason Box’s site where the above paper and quotes are from)

Climate Central- Andrew Freedman (http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-and-unusual-weather-pattern-yields-record-greenland-ice-loss?utm-source=feedburner&utm-medium=feed&utm-campaign=Feed%3A+climatecentral%2FdjOO+Climate+Central+-+Full+Feed)

Arctic Sea Ice Blog (http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/2012/07/unprecedented-greenland-ice-sheet-surface-melt-.html)

Jeff Masters’ at Weather Underground (http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2160)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Littleenki on August 26, 2012, 01:50:07 pm
http://www.spaceweather.com

There is more too come, and it is so strange because we , as a species have never experienced this day and age of our cosmic and earths natural cycles. IMHO

1Worldwatcher

It's definitely different 1WW, and Thor, but how and where?

Whats really odd, is with all this talk of warming, here in Tampa, weve had the coolest average temps since 1997 in my personal almanac.

And the average wind speed for the last three weeks has been twice that of the normal and some days it has been three times the usual.

Last night we had a wind of 15-20 mph and it got don to 77 degrees by 9pm...very unseasonable here.

Now with Isaac going by, the winds have changed, and Ill be looking to see what they do after he passes.

I have a feeling HAARp is heating an area south of west texas in the Gulf, and is causing the shift in our weather, and also pulling the hurricane westawrd to avoid the PTB in Tampa this week.

Here we are under a tropical strom warning, and all day weve been in and out of the pool enjoying the beautiful weather...usually this time of year we are inside staying out of the 2-3 mph south winds with 95% humidity and 95 degree heat....very odd indeed!

Cheers!
Le
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on August 26, 2012, 03:28:23 pm
Here is the big Picture...

Global Warming is REAL

Global Warming is NOT caused by mankind... it has happened MANY times in our history

The ice core samples taken at Lake Vostok while they drilled down to that lake do not lie... they record accurately the change in temperatures over 415000 years

What do they show?

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Seas/415k-year-temp-graph.jpg)

Look carefully at the warm periods compared to the cold

Look carefully at the SHARP change from cold to hot and hot to cold. When the change comes it comes FAST  over a few years.

Look closely at where we are today on that chart...

Now here is the way it works... global warming triggers record meltdown of sea and land ice... Arctic, Greenland Antarctica even the Himalayan Mountains...

This causes fresh water to decrease the salinity of the oceans which in turn heats up the ocean currents....

The heated oceans currents then create more severe storms... way above Katrina strength are possible...

All it then takes is ONE SINGLE HUGE STORM that causes a down draft of extreme cold air and it triggers an ice age OVERNIGHT

They found Mastadons trapped in the ice still chewing their last meal... think about it...

There was a movie made that dramatized this very effect... perhaps a bit overkill but close enough

Imagine what a SINGLE category 10 could do
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/HurricaneDean.jpg) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/HurricaneDean.jpg)

We are seeing the changes in the weather now. You have the Ice Age chart. I live nland and south of the last ice age limits :D but I have stocked lots of firewood and droping 20 degreed would make me happy :D Its been over 100F for three months straight now and ewe had one day in April that hit 100 this year.

We did have one storm a few days ago.... temp dropped from 110F at 11:30 pm to 68 in literally 20 minutes while we were watching the lightning show

The Day After Tomorrow... Where will YOU be?

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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on August 26, 2012, 04:46:52 pm
Otterpop, I got chills when I looked at those pics.  I was meditating on the matrix last night, and that's exactly what I saw.  I also saw what Matrix Traveller is experiencing, right down to the colors.  I pm'd him about,  and he confirmed what I was seeing.  I forgot to save the pm copy in my outbox, but he has my permission to share it if he wishes.

Shasta

Hi Shasta,

No problem... Here is a copy of the pm you sent to me.

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I think your editing work is progressing.  I had a "slide show" for lack of a better ter presented to me as I was dozing.  It seemed to be a small area of your lower spine, but I could see the matrix adjusting ever so slightly, and I could see an improvement in the flow of blood and nutrients to the area.  It seemed to be in the L1 through L3 region.  I saw a lot of blues, greens and gold.  Similar to scaffolding, but different.  If you want to go public with my impressions please do so.  I didn't because it isn't my body I'm getting impressions of.  It's a nurse thing.

Now about this changing weather, earthquakes, etc. etc.

Those who observe Sun rises on a regular basis will have noted the increase
in water vapor or moisture in our skies over the last 20 years or so.

I understand these changes involves the Earths "Thermal Cycles" driven by both
external energy and Internal Energy produced by Gravity and the Solar Tides.

It will be discovered soon, on Mars that the bulk of Mars's Water exists at present
under Mars's Crust.

Terrestrial bodies go through "Thermal Cycles" playing a major role in their environments.

This is what may happen on the Earth in the future.

We are approaching one end (Hottest) of the "Thermal Cycle", where the seas will relocate
between the Earths Crust and the Mantle.

Re the Oceanic Trenches near Japan (Part of the adjoining Pacific Plate)


(http://www.hp1039.jishin.go.jp/eqchreng/figures/f2-7.jpg)







(http://images.wikia.com/gwangipedia/images/3/31/Japan_trench.gif)


A little different than drawings involving these Trenches...   :D


The last Japanese tsunami, was generated by activity taking place in a Oceanic Trench.

Because we are approaching the Hotter end of the "Thermal Cycle", pressure changes
between the tectonic plates are taking place.

When Sea water is permitted to gain access to the upper regions of the Mantle
a chain reaction takes place.

The temperature starts rising, when we reach a certain depth, and the location
I am referring to, is much higher than boiling water at these pressures.
(far higher than 100° C at these pressures)

When Water suddenly makes Contact with these Temperatures, it can explode violently.
The release of Energy will cause the walls in this location of the Trench
to contract (away from each other), allowing another greater flow of water to gain entry
through the Trench.

Much water will be converted to Steam, but as further water is allowed access
this action will increase and eventually the Earths Crust will separate
from the Mantle, allowing water to enter this location also.

At some point all the seas will have relocated under the Earths Crust.

If we look back in history, we may find evidence of such phenomena taking
place, at either end of these cycles.

There is both a Hot end and a Colder end in the "Thermal Cycle".

The Length of this Cycle will change according to what drives the cycle.

So the Seas keep changing their Location from one side of the Earths Crust
to the other i.e. top side to underside of the crust.

Notice that in some locations on Earth the seas appear to be rising, while in
other areas appear to be dropping. Perhaps we are seeing distortions taking
place in the Earths Crust as we approach the end of this cycle.

The Seas Changing Temperature has a major affect on weather as you know.

Changing temperatures in the Seas may be the result of the release of Internal Energy
as well as being externally driven.

There are other factors which come into these changes as well affecting thunder storms
and tornado's, cyclones etc.

These are determined by the Earths Electrostatic Capacitance as the Earth behaves
like a large Spherical Capacitor, the crust acting as a Saturated Dielectric.

So how violent will these actions become?

Huge to us humans on our scale.

Will it be the End ?

NO.

In ancient writings involving forecasting, two different major events are confused as One.

The First involves the relocation of the Seas recorded in biblical material.

The Second does NOT involve the Earth as such but rather the Processing System
which produces our experiences.

I would expect Climate changes to take place over a few more years yet but to the human
experience this can be rather unpredictable.

But it must be appreciated what we are experiencing is Not by some chance, nor is it
some kind of test or anything of human understanding at this stage nor of any
religious nature but purely involves learning about our real selves and the Environment
we are experiencing.

Science has barely scratched the surface regarding this universe let alone why we are here,
experiencing both the human species and the environment it interacts with.

To whether these  changes relate to an end or Not, I understand the writings describe
yet another 1,000 years, that is if human understanding is indeed correct,
which I would suggest that we don't really know very much at all at this stage.

There will always be, those who fear and those who try to understand what this is really
all about.

Believing in an Idea of what the future may or may not produce will NOT provide
the Answers, but the Past will. Its a bit like reading a book where we only know the Story
when we have read the whole book...  :D

But in saying this we can't predict reliably the future by observing the Past.

We may have to adapt to these new conditions, and at the same time learn from this.

I think primarily we have placed too much attention on what may or may Not happen
in the future, and have neglected to gain greater understanding about our "Real Selves"
i.e. LIFE (The Observer).

The Experience involves both the body as well as the environment but it is
the "Partitions" of LIFE which experiences these 2.

We won't find safety in the Universe... But we will find Safety in our Real Selves,
i.e. a "Partition" of LIFE we refer to sometimes as "Awareness".

Some of the ancient writings refer to the Earth or Universe as "The CITY of Endurance"
and where we observe from "The CITY of Habitation" also referred to as The Place of LIFE.

Simply meaning we observe or experience the universe etc. from "Outside" rather than
internally.

Its just that the whole Program is done so well, we believe we are IN a Universe.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 27, 2012, 04:49:39 am
Wow, Matrix!

This is truly interesting, inspiring and frightening at the same time.

Much to understand and research here to get a handle on what you have postulated.

Thank you.

tfw
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Littleenki on August 27, 2012, 06:21:40 am
Great post, Matrix..connecting your work with the work of nature..I love it!

As a people, we like to think we are capable of effecting lasting changes on this planet..chemtrails, global warming, etc, but the real game changer is the LIFE experience as you call it...and the past shows us what we did and didnt do to effect those changes.

All we can change as humans is the experience, not the existence..and the cycles of Earth dont care about our puny technology or such, they just keep going in a Lacuna Coil.

Someday we will try to understand where we stand in the scheme of things, but the current mindset, and those others who havent had the gift of your teaching, arent going to solve anything for us.

Our puny efforts will only make life harder as we compromise instead of working within the partitions we are given.

I love the last statement...
Quote
Its just that the whole Program is done so well, we believe we are IN a Universe.

So true, so true!

Cheers!
Le
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on August 27, 2012, 05:31:46 pm
There are 2 parts to this experience.

a.    Things we can change within strict boundaries.
and
b.    Things we can't change involving the Program theme i.e. what happens in the overall
course of things.


Re. the "Changes" taking place; we just need to adapt to the changes and learn more
about our "Real Selves" i.e. LIFE or "Awareness" and what we are experiencing.

LIFE should Drive the Body or Flesh... Rather than the Body or Flesh trying to drive LIFE
in vain.

It is the "Flesh" which WAR'S against LIFE but LIFE wins in the End.   :D

Our Parent (Larger portion of LIFE) Creates, so too does its Children
or smaller portions, in the form of "Partitions" of the Greater (Larger or Collective) One.

Before we can "Create" we need to learn about the workings, just like driving a car.
If we don't know how to drive a car we can't drive it, simple as that.

This world Universe we experience is purely a Complex form of multiplexed "Communication"
( Different Senses) between 2 Ends of the Mind.

So we could say our daily experiences are in fact a Geometric based form of "Communication".

All our senses including Psychology, and emotions involves the Interpretation of Form. (Geometry)

What we don't see are the changes taking place in the "Processing Construct" (Some refer to
as the Soul) unless it is brought to our notice.

We should NOT Fear these things, but TRUST LIFE.

The more we TRUST LIFE i.e. "Awareness", the more we will be shown.

If we Run from LIFE we will NOT be shown anything except our own Imaginations and Fears.

One of the biggest "Challenges" that face us all, is coming to TRUST LIFE instead of trying
in vain, to destroy it.

Nothing happens by chance... There is No test or even Loss, these emotions come from
the human species as the flesh knows nothing.

All that we experience is NOT for the "Flesh", but instead "The LIVING ONE" i.e. our "Real Selves".

We that is the "Partitions" of LIFE have been from the Beginning of "The ALL" and shall remain eternally.

So we must learn (Come to Understand "The Workings") in order to mature to point of "Creating",
but in the correct way conforming to those things by which ALL has/is being Created by/through.

When the Seas do relocate at the changeover in the Earths "Thermal Cycle" we will be
given a little help, which will change our whole perspective of both our "Real Selves"
and the Universe we have/will enjoy.

The Universe exists, NOT to fear but to "Explore", for pure enjoyment.
Fear only results from a lack of knowledge and Understanding.

We only fear what we don't fully understand, because we Lack "TRUST" in LIFE.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on September 21, 2012, 12:22:56 am
I came across this Interesting "Sculpture" in our City the other Day...

It is a large Stainless Steel "Sphere" reflecting the surrounding environment.

But Look at the large, deep "Fissures" (Cracks) Around it ?

Reminded me of those "Trenches" on our Planet, and "The Relocation of the Seas",
re. "The Earths Thermal Cycles".

And from an Ancient writing Titled "The Book of E'NOCH" Ch. 1 verse 7  Quote;

Quote
7.  And the Earth shall be wholly rent in sunder,

See Attachments below....
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on February 13, 2013, 02:45:58 pm

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Extinctions are, by their very nature, unforeseen events. The fact that this much magma is coalescing under the thinnest part of the planet’s crust, that is likewise subducting, should raise more concerns than Yellowstone.

Geological events generally require a catalyst and we know both seismicity, heightened volcanism, and ocean floor warming has been accelerating in the Pacific basin of late- so we live constantly on the edge of a knife on this planet.

Add to this, scientists knew about the location of these magmatic reservoirs since the 1990s and said nothing of them.



Part 2: Extinction-level supervolcano growing in the Pacific (http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2013/02/12/part-2-extinction-level-supervolcano-growing-in-the-pacific/)



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February 12, 2013 – RING OF FIRE – Bad news, everyone – you have another near-certain world-ending catastrophe to look forward to.

Scientists have confirmed that two continent-sized chemical blobs of partially melted rock are converging in the Pacific, and look set to create a massive new volcano, which could prove cataclysmic to life on Earth.

Geologist Michael Thorne at the University of Utah reports in Earth and Planetary Science that the collision is slowly happening 1,800 miles beneath the ocean. He says that the collision could lead in two possible directions – both of which are bad, and would wipe out millions of species.


(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/volcanoundersea.jpg)


One is just a massive single eruption, which would kill us all, the other is a thousand-year flood basalt eruption, which would also kill us.

The problem is that two enormous “thermochemical piles” of molten rock about 3,000 miles across are moving towards each other at the bottom of the Earth’s mantle. The piles have been known about for decades, but it was originally thought they were static.

But after extensive study with seismic waves, Thorne is convinced they’re in fact moving together. The result is a massive, molten blob that will one day be created beneath the ocean, creating a huge amount of pressure that will eventually blow up in our face.

“What we may be detecting is the start of one of these large eruptive events that – if it ever happens – could cause very massive destruction on Earth,”

 said Thorne. Luckily the process is slow – it shouldn’t happen for another 100 million years or so. –Huffington UK


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Trouble in the Pacific: But in the 1990s, geophysicists found evidence for the continent-size thermochemical piles beneath Africa and the Pacific. These are known technically as LLSVPs, or “large low shear velocity provinces,” because seismic shear waves passing through them move 5 percent slower that through surrounding mantle rock.

That suggests they have a different composition and-or temperature than the surrounding mantle. Previous studies also have observed smaller blobs of rock, measuring perhaps 60-by-60 miles on the edges of the continent-sized masses.

Seismic shear waves move as much as 45 percent slower through these blobs – known technically as ULVZs or “ultra low velocity zones” – indicating they may be spongy and partly molten.

Thorne says his analysis of seismic waves passing through the core-mantle boundary reveals the Pacific pile really represents two or more continent-sized piles slowly sliding atop the core and colliding so that partly molten blobs on their edges are merging into the largest such blob or ULVZ ever observed – roughly the size of Florida.

“My study might be the first to show actual seismic evidence that the piles are moving,” he says. “People who have done previous simulations have suggested this. They are sitting atop the core and getting pushed around by overlying mantle forces like subduction. They move around on the core somewhat like continental plates drift at Earth’s surface.” -UU

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on March 04, 2013, 02:21:40 pm

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'Soon the snow on either side of me is towering over the car.
A little further on, it is higher than the large bus I am following.'

BBC News - Tackling northern Japan's record snow (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21626040)

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The snow looks beautiful in the winter sunlight, like a giant meringue curling from the rooftops.

Across northern Japan, 13 places have broken all previous snow records this year. Is it a freak, one-off year?


"I've lived here all of my 77 years,
But I have never seen anything like this snow.
This is at least twice as much as we usually get."


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Measuring the height of the snow proved to be challenging.

Or, as some have suggested, is it another result of global warming?



Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on March 04, 2013, 06:29:21 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/embed/bkYXn6UfZPs


Dr Richard Fisher, the director of Nasa's Heliophysics division, is very clear in the quotes, and our reporter, Andrew Hough, was very careful to check his facts with Dr Fisher before publishing. It sounds like a lot of serious people think that this is a real danger.

Apparently the concern is in 2013, the sun will reach a stage of its cycle when these large events are more likely.

This might strike you as a bit strange, as you've probably heard (as have I) that the sun has been especially active for the last half-century or so and is expected to die down in the next couple of years -- I spoke to Marcus Chown, the physicist and author of We Need to Talk about Kelvin (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0571244017/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=0571244017&link_code=as3&tag=pegasreseacon-20), who said

"Solar activity has been abnormally high for the past 50 years, but the extremely feeble start to the latest 11-year cycle suggests this activity is coming to an end and things are going to be quiet on the Sun for quite a few years."

Dr Ruth Bamford, a plasma physicist at the Rutherford-Appleton Laboratory, agrees:

"The sun has been particularly quiet for the last few years in a protracted solar minimum. It has just woken up, as it were, and started its usual 11-year cycle a bit later than most."

So what's going on?

Well, something similar has happened before. In 1859, a huge solar storm burned out telegraph wires across Europe and the United States. Dr Stuart Clark has written a book, The Sun Kings: The Unexpected Tragedy of Richard Carrington and the Tale of How Modern Astronomy Began (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691141266/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=0691141266&link_code=as3&tag=pegasreseacon-20), about when that happened.


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He says that the "Carrington flare", as it was known, "smothered two-thirds of the Earth's skies in a blood-red aurora a night later, and crippled all of global navigation and global communication, such as it was at that time. Compasses span uselessly and the telegraph network went down as phantom electricity surged through the wire."

The sun had indeed been running at a record high for the latter half of the 20th century, and has now died down to its lowest level for a century. But Dr Clark warns that "average levels of solar activity has fallen does not mean that the Sun is immune from large flares or even giant ones. Low average levels of activity may even promote the giant flares.


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"Perhaps like earthquakes, when there are constant flares/tremors the energy is dissipated evenly over long periods of time. But in periods of quiet, that energy can build up and then suddenly be released in a giant event. This remains speculation, however."

Dr Clark says that the largest flares are often shortly after the peak.

Of course, if a proper 'Carrington event' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859) happens again, it has the potential to be far more problematic now than in 1859 when electric communication was barely in its infancy.

Dr Clark says "There is absolutely no reason to believe that we are heading for solar armageddon in 2013, but sooner or later we should expect there to be another Carrington event and that is what these scientists [at NASA] are trying to prevent. Legislation in the US has just passed Congress to help harden the grid against solar flares."


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So -- it's a real thing, and we should be concerned. But preventive measures can be taken -- satellites can be sent offline during big flares, power grids and communication networks can be shielded against electromagnetic radiation and so on.

As Dr Bamford says: "The extreme events like the 1859 Carrington Event are 1-in-100-year probabilities, about the same probability as a storm of the level of Katrina hitting New Orleans -- and New Orleans did not build their defences to withstand the extreme-magnitude.

The Katrina catastrophy is small compared to getting hit with solar flares."


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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on March 18, 2013, 02:16:16 pm
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Earth-Directed Coronal Mass Ejection From the Sun Released Today (http://spaceref.com/space-weather-1/earth-directed-coronal-mass-ejection-from-the-sun-released-today.html)


CME Released on 15 March 2013

The ESA and NASA Solar Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) captured these images of the sun spitting out a coronal mass ejection (CME) on March 15, 2013, from 3:24 to 4:00 a.m. EDT. This type of image is known as a coronagraph, since a disk is placed over the sun to better see the dimmer atmosphere around it, called the corona. Credit: ESA&NASA/SOHO

On March 15, 2013, at 2:54 a.m. EDT, the sun erupted with an Earth-directed coronal mass ejection (CME), a solar phenomenon that can send billions of tons of solar particles into space and can reach Earth one to three days later and affect electronic systems in satellites and on the ground. Experimental NASA research models, based on observations from the Solar Terrestrial Relations Observatory (STEREO) and ESA/NASA's Solar and Heliospheric Observatory, show that the CME left the sun at speeds of around 900 miles per second, which is a fairly fast speed for CMEs. Historically, CMEs at this speed have caused mild to moderate effects at Earth.

The NASA research models also show that the CME may pass by the Spitzer and Messenger spacecraft. NASA has notified their mission operators. There is, however, only minor particle radiation associated with this event, which is what would normally concern operators of interplanetary spacecraft since the particles can trip on board computer electronics.

Not to be confused with a solar flare, a CME is a solar phenomenon that can send solar particles into space and reach Earth one to three days later. Earth-directed CMEs can cause a space weather phenomenon called a geomagnetic storm, which occurs when they connect with the outside of the Earth's magnetic envelope, the magnetosphere, for an extended period of time. In the past, geomagnetic storms caused by CMEs such as this one have usually been of mild to medium strength.

NOAA's Space Weather Prediction Center (http://swpc.noaa.gov) is the United States Government official source for space weather forecasts, alerts, watches and warnings.

Updates will be provided if needed.

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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: sky otter on March 19, 2013, 07:13:19 am




BRACE YOURSELF
Climate Change Has Already Doubled Risk Of Katrina-Sized Storm Surges: Study


Storm Surge Risk Amplified By Climate Change, Study Finds
Posted: 03/18/2013 4:57 pm EDT  


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/storm-surge-risk_n_2902823.html


Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on March 27, 2013, 09:29:12 am
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From our friend, George Ure (http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm).

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Quake Up Call?
As we are quickly sliding into the Good Friday - Easter earthquake window that some have been predicting, including Ure's truly. 

Not only would such a quake this year fit with things like Joe Brandt's dream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYeQ5HW5QL0), predictions from people like Patrick Geryl and some of the buzz on earthquake boards, it would dovetail with quakes hitting on auspicious dates such as Boxing Day (2004) and Good Friday (1964). 



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In fact, some researchers have pointed out more. 

Perhaps it's because holidays (from holy days) tend to arise from astrologically or astronomically significant times of the year.
 
Whatever the underlying mechanics, we had a 6.2 magnitude "warm-up" quake overnight down in the mountains of Guatemala (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/) on Monday, not too far south of Mexico. 

If you have some topographical resource handy, take note of the location:  Where mountains rise, not far east of the Pacific rim fault lines in the ocean west of the quakes.
 

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Seems to me I recall in some of Clif's work imagery of a breakup of the land bridge between North and South America, but it's too early to put that many brain cells in motion.

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Remember, I told you back in November that I had expected that after Dec. 2012 turned into a bust that I expected that the mechanics of disaster globally would shift-forward toward the May 20-22 area which is Clif's hot range.
 
As a result of his research, Patrick developed a unique way of looking at earthquakes, since they should presage a major East-changer which gets us to this morning's email that he was kind enough to share, especially because of an uptick in (so far low level) earthquake in the La Palme/el Hierro/Canary Islands area:
 
"I am currently researching May 4 as a possible date... March 27 - 28... Still big dates for quake activity... Gloom & doom approaching...   Patrick"


There are several ways (linguistically) that the Global Coastal Event could show up and unfortunately precision in future predicting, even using the latest techniques and blending in some of the old so as to arrive as what is a "best practices" model, is frustratingly imprecise. 

That said:
 
Best guess is still that we will have a global coastal 'something' around late May to early June.  It could be caused by:

   •   La Palme/ el Hierro / Canary Islands landslide, which would scrub the US East Coast off up to about 150-feet, or so. 

OR...

   •   The source may be a northwest Pacific basin undersea break (mega quake larger than Japan. 

OR...

   •   It could be the RV'er concept of breaking-up bolide in which case discussed impact areas might include...

   •   Indian Ocean

   •   Gulf of Mexico to landside Mexico

   •   Multiple large enough fragments to mess up world

   •   Note this from one reader on this bolide stuff:

   •   "Note: "George in a line about 1/2 way down this article, they say " but if it comes in 3 weeks, pray". Don't you find that a bit curious? 

Large asteroid heading to Earth? ‘Pray, says NASA’ (http://www.nbcnews.com/id/51250777/ns/us_news-environment/t/large-asteroid-heading-earth-pray-says-nasa/#.UU50OOgUOy4.email) Coincidence?

   •   And, whatever all this aggregates to, people on the US west coast should get (roughly concurrent to this) a large (9+ plus likely) kind of earthquake and...

   •   The tsunami language should be willing out all over the place.
   
   
Not that we have to wait that long for things to begin to fall apart.

And that is the word from George.



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Let’s take an interesting look at earthquakes in history that occurred between 26 March and 4 April - essentally considering Good Friday and Easter Sunday quakes, with others sprinkled in.  :P

Today in Earthquake History (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/)


26 March

M7.4 - California, 1872 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=3&day=26&submit=View+Date)
The was one of the Largest Earthquakes in the United States and the most devastating effects of this earthquake occurred at Lone Pine, where 52 of 59 houses (mostly constructed of adobe or stone) were destroyed and 27 people were killed. A few fatalities also were reported in other parts of Owens Valley. One report states that the main buildings were thrown down in almost every town in Inyo County. About 100 kilometers south of Lone Pine, at Indian Wells, adobe houses sustained cracks. Property loss has been estimated at $250,000.


M7.7 - Venezuela, 1812 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=3&day=26&submit=View+Date)
City of Caracas destroyed. Severe damage. 26,000 killed. ?From the National Geophysical Data Center (NGDC) Significant Earthquake Database.


M6.8 - Guinea, 1984 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/)
Eleven people injured and many buildings destroyed (VIII) on Karkar. Minor ground fissures and two holes 3-7 meters in diameter and 2 meters deep occurred.


27 March

1964 Good Friday

The Prince William Sound, Alaska 9.2 earthquake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Alaska_earthquake), the second biggest earthquake ever recorded, is surpassed only by the 1960 Chile 9.5 quake.

The 1964 Alaskan earthquake, also known as the Great Alaskan Earthquake, the Portage Earthquake and the Good Friday Earthquake, was a megathrust earthquake that began at 5:36 P.M. AST on Good Friday, March 27, 1964.[2] Across south-central Alaska, ground fissures, collapsing structures, and tsunamis resulting from the earthquake caused about 143 deaths.

Lasting nearly three minutes, it was the most powerful recorded earthquake in U.S. and North American history, and the second most powerful ever measured by seismograph.[3] It had a magnitude of 9.2, making it the second largest earthquake in recorded history.[2][4]


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The initial seismic waves from the Good Friday Earthquake were so powerful that buildings as far away as Seattle, Washington swayed. The ground in Houston, Texas, was briefly lifted by four inches (10 cm), and lifted by as much as 2.5 inches (6 cm) in Florida. For two weeks, the entire planet vibrated like a giant gong as the seismic waves cirlced the globe.

This quake altered more of the earth's crust than any other earthquake on record. More than 25,000 square miles (40,233 square km) of land north and west of the fault had shifted to the southeast. Much of this land dropped between 2.5 and 7.5 feet (.75 and 2.3 meters). Much of the ground south and east of the fault had lifted an average of six feet (1.8 meters), with the maximum being 38 feet (11.6 meters) at Montague Island.

Undersea ground in a line from Ninchinbrook Island to the Trinity Islands--parallel to the faultline--lifted as much as 50 feet (15.2 meters). This is what caused the tsunamis that devestated Valdez, Seward, Kodiak, and many other towns. Anchorage shifted laterally six feet (1.8 meters), Valdez 33 feet (10 meters), and Seward 47 feet (14.3 meters).

For three days after the quake, almost 300 aftershocks shook Southcentral Alaska. Eighteen months passed before the aftershocks finally ceased, which numbered more than 10,000.


What are the chances of such a disaster striking Alaska again?

The answer is, pretty good. Alaska is one of the world's most seismically active areas.

11% of the world's earthquakes occur in Alaska, and three of the 10 largest earthquakes ever recorded in world history were in Alaska.

The only reason that the total death toll for the Good Friday Earthquake didn't even come close to the large December 26, 2004 Asia 9.0 earthquake is because Alaska is so sparsely populated.

Alaska's population has grown greatly since 1964, so if the same quake was to happen again, the death toll would easily be much higher.


28 March
M8.6 - Indonesia, 2005 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=3&day=28&submit=View+Date)

At least 1,000 people killed, 300 injured and 300 buildings destroyed on Nias; 100 people killed, many injured and several buildings damaged on Simeulue; 200 people killed in Kepulauan Banyak; 3 people killed, 40 injured and some damage in the Meulaboh area, Sumatra. A 3 meter tsunami damaged the port and airport on Simeulue. Tsunami runup heights as high as 2 meters were observed on the west coast of Nias and 1 meter at Singkil and Meulaboh, Sumatra. At least 10 people were killed during evacuation of the coast of Sri Lanka.

The 2005 Sumatra earthquake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Sumatra_earthquake), referred to as the Nias Earthquake by the scientific community, was a major earthquake on 28 March 2005, located off the west coast of northern Sumatra, Indonesia. Approximately 1300 people were killed by the earthquake, mostly on the island of Nias. The event caused panic in the region, which had previously been devastated by the massive tsunami triggered by the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, but this earthquake generated a relatively small tsunami that caused limited damage. It was the third most powerful earthquake since 1965 in Indonesia.

The earthquake occurred at 16:09:36 UTC (23:09:36 local time) on 28 March 2005. The hypocenter was located at 2°04?35?N 97°00?58?E, 30 kilometres (19 mi) below the surface of the Indian Ocean, where subduction is forcing the Indo-Australian Plate to the south-west under the Eurasian plate's Sunda edge. The area is 200 kilometres (120 mi) west of Sibolga, Sumatra, or 1,400 kilometres (870 mi) northwest of Jakarta, approximately halfway between the islands of Nias and Simeulue. Seismic recordings give the earthquake a moment magnitude of about 8.6[1] and effects were felt as far away as Bangkok, Thailand; over 1,000 kilometres (620 mi) away.[2]


M6.0 - Ecuador, 1996 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=3&day=28&submit=View+Date)
At least 27 people killed, 100 injured, several thousand homeless and considerable damage and destruction to homes, bridges and water pipes in Cotopaxi, Pastaza and Tungurahua Provinces. Land- slides blocked several roads in the epicentral area. Minor damage (VI) at Ambato, Latacunga and San Miguel de Salcedo. Felt (IV) at Quito; (III) at Ibarra; (II) at Cuenca and Guayaquil. Felt in many parts of Ecuador.


M6.2 - Idaho, 1975 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=3&day=28&submit=View+Date)
This earthquake shifted several ranch houses on their foundations and toppled many chimneys in the Ridgedale area of the sparsely populated Pocatello Valley.


M6.9 - Turkey, 1970 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=3&day=28&submit=View+Date)
Over 1,000 killed. One of the world's deadliest earthquakes. ?More than 12,000 houses were destroyed or severely damaged in the Gediz-Emet area of Kutahya Province. Over 50 percent of the buildings were damaged in 53 villages in the area. A large amount of the damage was caused by landslides and fires triggered by the earthquake. Some damage occurred at Bursa and Yalova.

It was felt at Ankara, Istanbul, Izmir and as far east as Erzincan. It was also felt on Chios (Khios) and Lesvos, Greece. Strong aftershocks caused considerable additional damage. A total of 61 km (38 mi) of predominantly normal (vertical, extensional or "pull-apart") faulting was observed in several zones in the Gediz area with a maximum offset of 275 cm (9 ft) on the Ayikayasi Fault. A large part of the fault displacements may be due to creep after the earthquake, rather than from the quake itself. Numerous landslides and changes in thermal springs occurred in the epicentral area.


M6.4 - Turkey, 1969 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=3&day=28&submit=View+Date)
This strong earthquake hit the Alasehir region of western Turkey. The shock centered near the Anatolia fault system, which lies in the active Alpide seismic belt. Eleven people were killed and over 7,000 houses destroyed or moderately damaged. Foreshocks preceded this earthquake on March 22 and 23.

The March 23 event alone destroyed 1,776 houses, according to reports. Alasehir, known in classical times as Philadelphia, sustained less property damage than surrounding villages. A total of 1,328 houses and office structures collapsed. Roads sank and reports were made of boiling water gushing from ground cracks. Thousands here and in surrounding villages were made homeless by the earthquakes. ?
(From Significant Earthquakes of the World 1969 and Earthquake Information Bulletin, Volume 2, Number 1.)


M7.1 - Chile, 1965 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=3&day=28&submit=View+Date)
About 400 persons were killed or missing, 350 were injured, and extensive property damage was reported throughout the area. The mining village of El Cobre completely disappeared after the shock shattered a 230-foot dam, cascading two million tons of water and mud into the town. There was extensive damage to bridges, roads, and public utilities, and structural damage to thousands of buildings in Santiago and Valparaiso. At Llay-Llay, almost every building was heavily damaged by the earthquake and ensuing fires. Several other towns north of Santiago reported extensive property damage. ?(From United States Earthquakes, 1965.)


M9.2 - Alaska, 1964 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=3&day=28&submit=View+Date)
Local time: March 27 05:36:14 p.m. ?This great earthquake and ensuing tsunami took 128 lives (tsunami 113, earthquake 15), and caused about $311 million in property loss. ?Abridged from Seismicity of the United States, 1568-1989 (Revised), by Carl W. Stover and Jerry L. Coffman. ?The second Largest Earthquake in the World, since 1900.


29 March

M6.6 - India, 1999 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=3&day=28&submit=View+Date)
Local time: March 29. ?At least 61 people killed and 125 injured in the Chamoli district; 34 killed and 177 injured in the Rudraprayag district; 5 killed and 60 injured in the Tehri Garhwal district; 19 injured in the Bageshwar district; 13 injured in the Pauri Garhwal district, India. Over 21,100 houses destroyed. Many landslides blocked roads in the epicentral area.


M6.4 - Ethiopia, 1969 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=3&day=29&submit=View+Date)
The earthquake completely razed the town of Sardo, killing 24 persons and injuring 165. There were 100 huts destroyed in the village; all were made of mud. The 300 surviving villagers were moved to the nearby town of Loggia, 50 kilometers west. Damage and reported felt area were restricted to an apparent radius of about 30 kilometers. Several aftershocks were noted, but none were damaging. ?(From Earthquake Information Bulletin, Volume 2, Number 1.)


M7.9 - Spain, 1954 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=3&day=29&submit=View+Date)
The earthquake occurred in the south of Spain, and caused property damage at Malaga. Felt at Madrid, Granada and Cadiz, Spain; Tangier, Spanish Morocco, and Casablanca, French Morocco. The depth was 640 kilometers. ?(From United States Earthquakes, 1954.)


M7.0 - Hawaii, 1868 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=3&day=29&submit=View+Date)
Foreshock of the 7.9 earthquake on April 03, 1868. ?One of the Largest Earthquakes in the United States. ?At Kahuku, a stone house was destroyed, the chimney of the Mission parsonage was thrown down, and the walls of the stone church were cracked. At Kona, stone walls were thrown down, masses of rock were thrown off the cliff at the bay, stone buildings were damaged, and the cisterns of the Kona Plantation were cracked. At Waiohinu, walls were shaken down, and the stone church was cracked from top to bottom. Also slightly felt at Hilo.


30 March

M7.3 - Alaska, 1965 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=3&day=30&submit=View+Date)
One of the Largest Earthquakes in the United States, the 1965 Rat Islands earthquake occurred at 05:01 UTC, on 4 February. It had a magnitude of 8.7 and triggered a tsunami of over 10 m on Shemya Island,[1] but caused very little damage.


31 March

The 2006 Borujerd earthquake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Borujerd_earthquake) occurred in the early morning of March 31, 2006 in the South of Borujerd with massive destruction in Borujerd, Silakhor and Dorood areas of the Loristan Province in Western Iran. The centre of the earthquake was in Darb-e Astaneh village in South of the Borujerd City.

A lighter foreshock happened the night before, and people stayed outside overnight and this reduced the number of casualties significantly. However, the mainshock at 4:47 a.m on March 31, shook Borujerd, Dorud and other towns and villages on Silakhor Plain for more than 55 seconds. The earthquake measured 6.1 on the Richter Scale.

This powerful earthquake shook the entire land of Loristan Province and most areas of Hamedan Province, Markazi Province and destroyed many villages in Khorramabad, Alashtar and Arak County as well. More than 180 aftershocks followed the main earthquake in April, May and June and people had to stay outside for several weeks.


M5.7 - California, 1986 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=3&day=31&submit=View+Date)
Six people were treated for minor injuries. Slight damage (VI) in the Fremont area and power outages in parts of Fremont and San Jose. Felt (V) at many cities in the southern San Francisco Bay area including Alameda, Cupertino, Milpitas, Mountain View, Palo Alto, Pleasanton, Redwood City, San Jose, San Leandro, Santa Clara, Sunnyvale and Union City. Felt throughout much of central California from Santa Rosa to San Luis Obispo and east to Yosemite National Park. ?(From Significant Earthquakes of the United States, 1986 - June 1989.)

M6.0 - Nicaragua, 1931 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=3&day=31&submit=View+Date)
The earthquake and fire destroyed much of the city of Managua. 2,500 dead. One of the world's deadliest earthquakes.


1 April

M8.1 - Alaska, 1946 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=4&day=1&submit=View+Date)
One of the Largest Earthquakes in the United States. ?

This major earthquake caused only minor damage to buildings on Unimak Island, but it generated a tsunami that devasted the lighthouse and swept away its five occupants. The height of the wave at the lighthouse was estimated at about 35 meters. Tsunami damage also occurred at Dutch Harbor and Ikatan Island in the Aleutian Islands, on the west coasts of North and South America, and in Hawaii. At Hilo, Hawaii, the tsunami took 159 lives and caused $26 million loss to property. The tsunami caused one death in California.


2 April

M - Bangladesh/India, 1762 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=4&day=2&submit=View+Date)
A very destructive and violent earthquake felt all over Bengal, Arakan, etc., chiefly and most severely in the north part of the east coast of the Bay of Bengal. In Calcutta, water in tanks rose 6 feet; direction said to have been north and south; lasted ten minutes. At Ghitotty, 18 miles above Calcutta, river rose more than 6 feet perpendicularly.

At Dacca, water rose so suddenly as to carry up hundreds of boats, and many lives were lost. Chittagong suffered very severely; great explosion heard at first; openings in the earth were formed 10 to 12 cubits in length, and chasms were filled with water. Water was spouted out like a fountain together with fine sand or mud; earth continued to sink day by day little by little. Sixty square miles said to have been permanently submerged. At Dollazari houses fell; cavity opened 200 cubits in length and filled with water. Two volcanoes said to have opened on the Seeta Kunda Hills.

At Nahar Charcak the island clove asunder and was swallowed up by the waters. Minor shocks continued up to the 19th. To this severe earthquake is attributed an elevation, of varying amount, of the coast of Arakan, stated to extend over more than 100 miles in length. Oysters were found adhering to a pinnacle of rock, about 40 feet high, on a line about 13 feet above the second line of beach (that produced in 1766), which itself marked in a similar way. ?(From Southeast Asia Association of Seismology and Earthquake Engineering, Series on Seismology, Volume II - Thailand, June 1985.)


3 April

M7.3 - Costa Rica, 1983 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=4&day=3&submit=View+Date)
Five people died from heart attacks, one person killed by a collapsing house, and several people injured in southeastern Costa Rica. Also felt strongly in southwestern Panama. ?From Significant Earthquakes of the World, 1983.


M7.9 - Hawaii, 1868 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=4&day=3&submit=View+Date)
Local time: April 02?This earthquake caused 77 deaths (tsunami, 46; landslide, 31). It knocked almost all wooden houses off their foundations in the Keiawa, Punaluu, and Ninole areas. In those areas, straw houses supported by posts in the ground reportedly were "torn to shreds." At Kau, the more substantial houses and every stone wall were thrown down. At Waiohinu, a large stone church collapsed within 10 seconds of the onset of shaking. The shock "ruined" the few stone buildings in Hilo and shook down almost every wall. Brooks became muddy.

One of the Largest Earthquakes in the United States and the largest historical earthquake in Hawaii.


4 April

M7.5 - India, 1905 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/today/index.php?month=4&day=4&submit=View+Date)
One of the deadliest earthquakes in Indian history. Over 19,000 deaths. Damage in the Kangra area and at Dehra Dun One of the world's deadliest earthquakes.


Easter Sunday

The 2010 Baja California earthquake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Baja_California_earthquake) (also known as 2010 Easter earthquake, 2010 Sierra El Mayor earthquake, or 2010 El Mayor – Cucapah earthquake) was an earthquake of 7.2 magnitude on the moment magnitude scale.

It started 26 kilometers (16 mi) south of Guadalupe Victoria, Baja California, Mexico, at a depth of 10 km (6.2 mi).[3] It occurred at 3:40:41 pm Pacific Daylight Time (PDT) (22:40:41 UTC) on Easter Sunday, April 4, 2010, and it is said to have lasted about a minute and a half. The strongest shaking was felt in the ejido of Alberto Oviedo Mota, municipality of Mexicali, at Mercalli intensity scale VIII (Severe).

In Mexicali, Calexico and Guadalupe Victoria it rated VII (Very Strong), while in Ensenada and Tijuana it measured VI (Strong).[1] Most of the damage in this earthquake occurred in the twin cities of Mexicali and Calexico on the Mexico–United States border.[4] Four people were killed and 100 people were injured.[2]


6 April 2010   Easter Sunday

Northern Sumatra, Indonesia

The April 2010 Sumatra earthquake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_2010_Sumatra_earthquake) was a 7.8 Mw earthquake[3] that occurred on April 7, 2010, at 5:15 AM local time (April 6, 2010, 22:15 UTC) near Banyak Islands, off the island of Sumatra in Indonesia. A tsunami watch was issued according to the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center in Honolulu[4] which was later canceled.[5] A 40 cm surge was reported in the Banyak Islands an hour after the quake, along with 62 injuries.[6] Power outages were reported throughout the province of North Sumatra[7] as well as in Aceh.[8][9] This quake is one of the sequence of large earthquakes along the Sunda megathrust in 2000s.

In Simeulue Regency, 21 were hospitalized in Gunung Putih, Teluk Dalam subdistrict,[10] and 41 were injured in Teupah Selatan subdistrict. Some of the injured were treated at Simeulue general hospital in Sinabang.[11]



Well, the clock’s ticking on Holidays...  :P

   •   First day of Passover    Tuesday, March 26, 2013
   •   Maundy Thursday    Thursday, March 28, 2013
   •   Holy Saturday    Saturday, March 30, 2013
   •   César Chávez Day    Sunday, March 31, 2013
   •   Easter Sunday    Sunday, March 31, 2013





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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Littleenki on March 27, 2013, 11:22:14 am
Great post Thor, excellent insight...Id guess Ishtar got her reputation for a good reason. Whole lotta shakin going on!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on March 27, 2013, 02:14:13 pm
Listing Earthquakes is all fine and dandy. And naturally EQ's will kill more people today than in the past because of simple population density.

Also I see a lot of people freaking out over EQ chains of 4.0 or less on various forums and websites. ATS had one thread where people were going nuts seeing over 100 quakes a day in the islands of Alaska...

But a simple check on USGS history of the area shows this to be NORMAL activity.

So lets have a quick refresher course on magnitude...

Richter magnitude scale

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The Richter magnitude scale (often shortened to Richter scale) was developed to assign a single number to quantify the energy released during an earthquake.

The scale is a base-10 logarithmic scale. The magnitude is defined as the logarithm of the ratio of the amplitude of waves measured by a seismograph to an arbitrary small amplitude. An earthquake that measures 5.0 on the Richter scale has a shaking amplitude 10 times larger than one that measures 4.0, and corresponds to a 31.6 times larger release of energy.

Since the mid-20th century, the use of the Richter magnitude scale has largely been supplanted by the moment magnitude scale in many countries. However, the Richter scale is still widely used in Russia and other CIS countries. Also worth noting is that earthquake measurements under the moment magnitude scale in the United States—3.5 and up, on the MMS scale—are still usually erroneously referred to as being measured under the Richter scale in the general public, as well as the media, due to the familiarity with earthquakes being measured by the Richter scale instead of the MMS scale.

(http://thelivingmoon.com/Vault/Scale_001.png)

So lets forget everything BELOW a 5.0  :D

Now I can predict that there will be at LEAST 4 5.0 quakes somewhere in the world tomorrow  :D (and it doesn't matter which day you read this :P )

What we need to look at is FREQUENCY OF THE BIG ONES

Need a list of all the big ones over the last 10-20 years and compare that rate to today to see if there is any MAJOR INCREASE

If there is, the "Houston we have a problem..."

I have shown the ice core sample chart above a few posts back. That is a long term chart over 400,000 years. In the METHANE thread I have more detail of how methane being released today at increasing rates can cause problems. Both in global warming and stress on the plates. As the gas escapes, the pressure is less on those plates allowing (or triggering) them to move

Global Warming is REAL  make no mistake about that. What is FALSE is that it was/is caused by us. This is a NATURAL cycle. True we are likely adding to the problem rather than helping it... but in the end one really BIG volcano would produce as much pollution as mankind has done for the last 100 years total

Here is a temp map on a shorter scale  from 2500 BC to 2007 AD...  It shows the 'Mini Ice Age' in Europe that forced the invention of the fireplace for those old castles

(http://thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Seas/2065311545_2abdf79551.jpg)

Notice the VOLCANOES and their relation to temp changes

I created a discussion thread alongside the METHANE thread. Seems people care more about girls igniting their farts than what the gas release implies... :P

But as more ice melts, more and more trapped methane hydrate will leak into the air...

If that happens... you are all going to PRAY those chemtrails work :P
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on March 27, 2013, 03:40:46 pm
Quote
Global Warming is REAL  make no mistake about that. What is FALSE is that it was/is caused by us. This is a NATURAL cycle. True we are likely adding to the problem rather than helping it... but in the end one really BIG volcano would produce as much pollution as mankind has done for the last 100 years total

100% Correct Z

Our input is very, very, small, its NOT so much the chemicals and Gasses we are adding
into the water and Atmosphere, but rather it is The "ENERGY" we are Producing,
and "Pumping" Directly into our Environment !

A small car is dumping up to 280,000 Watts under full throttle on a hill.

280 to 300 K/Watts.

A domestic Oven dumps about 3,000 Watts just to give you a comparison.

3 K/Watts

Do the Sums on the Global Dumping of "ENERGY" into our Environment, and you will desperately,
want to flee this Environment...    :(
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on March 28, 2013, 09:07:44 am
FOR THE RECORD
28 March 2013
Significant Earthquake Activity Worldwide


(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/16-31%20March%202013%20SNAPPY/SeismicMap28mar13-600.png) (http://www.iris.edu/seismon/bigmap/index.phtml)


(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/16-31%20March%202013%20SNAPPY/KermadecIslandsRegion.png)


(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/16-31%20March%202013%20SNAPPY/EQTaiwan27mar13.gif)


27 March 2013

TAIWAN   6.0     02:03:20 UTC
LAT:   23.840     
LON:  121.135    
DEPTH:   20.7 km


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Strong earthquake hits central Taiwan –
1 death, at least 94 injured + a lot of damage



UPDATE: March 28th, 09.40 UTC. Chinese medias are currenty reporting a number of 94 injuries caused by the quake in Taiwan.

- 21 injuries and the death from Nandou Country - 66 injuries from Taichung Country - 7 injuries from Changhua Country. There are no damage reports from China.

UPDATE: 13:09 UTC : The number of injuries rises again. Now at least 86 people are confirmed injured.

- most of this people have only minor injuries
- at least 37 students were injured by trying to escape a school building during the quake

(THIS IS AGAINST EARTHQUAKE PREPAREDNESS GUIDANCES)

- The government of the Chinese province of Fujian (closest to Taiwan), send rescue teams through the villages to check for damage to buildings. The quake prompted the activation of emergency plans in China. So far there are no damage reports from Fujian.


(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/16-31%20March%202013%20SNAPPY/eqTaiwan28mar13.jpg)
(Image courtesy and copyright Chinanews.com)



UPDATE: 11:40 UTC :The number of injured has increased from 19 to 44.- Schools are closed for the time being - a lot of damage in buildings and houses (mostly cracks in walls, broken windows, etc) and some roads have been blocked. The damage has not been calculated yet but will be considerable.


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(Image courtesy and copyright cna.com.tw)


UPDATE: 07:52 UTC : The earthquake caused a lot of perturbation of the railway system as rails had to be inspected. Many trains have been canceled until after the inspection. Many Chinese mainland cities felt the shaking very well and people ran out of their office buildings.

The picture shows a damaged shop where a salesperson was crushed in between the shelves. She was only slightly injured.


People do not seem to learn what to do during an earthquake ! NEVER run out of the building while the shaking is going on, but hide against an inner wall or below a sturdy table or office with your hands on top of your head. Running away is VERY DANGEROUS. Even more, if the shaking gets worse you will not be able to walk normally.

UPDATE: 06:42 UTC : The military have set up an emergency center in Nantou to provide rescue assistance if needed.


(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/16-31%20March%202013%20SNAPPY/Screen-Shot-2013-03-27-at-073032.png)


UPDATE: 06:28 UTC : Interesting to notify is that people in China may have felt this earthquake stronger than in the capital Taipei.

The reason : the propagation of the earthquake waves. The waves have been moving in a North-Westerly direction towards the Chinese mainland.


UPDATE: 06:22 UTC : A 72 year old woman was the deadly victim of this earthquake. She was hit by  collapsing temple wall.

UPDATE: Unfortunately, 1 death has been registered in Nantou County. If the death is deemed to be not secondary (heart attack) then the earthquake will be classified CATDAT Red.

UPDATE: All classes at Taichung university have been suspended for the day. Apart from that, good news with most of the checks of roads completed without damage.

UPDATE: 'Coming from Malaysia and not having any earthquake experiences before, this one left a very deep impression. I was in class when the tremors came, and at first I thought the person behind me was shaking my seat, but then the lights started to swing and the room was swaying to the sides. It was so scary that I am still shaking as I’m typing this. All classes were suspended and one building suffered a lot of damage with cracks in the walls for every floor.' (– Jason, earthquake-report.com reader.)



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(Image courtesy and copyright Weibo.com)


UPDATE: Some more information – a fire that was set off from the shaking has been contained. In addition, the previous elevator story was badly translated – in fact there have been 5 separate elevator incidents (2 in Nantou County, 1 in Taichung City and 2 in Changhua County), in which 2 people have been saved. It is unclear whether more people remain trapped.

In addition, a few minor power outages have occurred, and roads are being checked for landslides and additional effects.


UPDATE: 19 people have been injured – 4 in Nantou County, 14 in Taichung City and 1 in Changhua County. In addition an elevator stopped, trapping 5 people. 2 NASC people (search and rescue) have been sent to the epicentral region of the earthquake. Broken windows and fallen items in addition to cracking occurred.


UPDATE: A spectacular crack has occurred along the length of a high rise building in Nantou County.


(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/16-31%20March%202013%20SNAPPY/Crackinbuilding.jpg)
Crack along the length of a building in Nantou County, Taiwan.


UPDATE: At least 1 person has been injured by a falling ceiling. An additional 3 people have been injured by a fire that broke out in Nantou County.

UPDATE: The PAGER model / USGS Shakemap has the highest intensity as IV (4) - light shaking. Although we would like to believe this, the shaking has already been felt at VI-VII, somewhere between the Taiwanese solution and the US solution.

UPDATE: The high speed railway is being currently checked for effects.

UPDATE: Renai Township has been pronounced as the epicentral region.
The earthquake hit close to that of the 21st September, 1999 earthquake of Mw7.7 which caused 2444 deaths and over $10 billion USD damage.

Resources:

Earthquakes Today (http://earthquakestoday.info/)

Current earthquakes world-wide, Thursday, 28 March 2013: past 24 hours (http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/earthquakes/today.html)

USGS (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html)

IRIS Seismic Monitor - Recent Earthquakes World Map (http://www.iris.edu/dms/seismon.htm)

earthquakereport.com (http://earthquake-report.com/2013/03/27/strong-earthquake-hits-central-taiwan/)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on March 28, 2013, 02:38:05 pm
Hi  thorfourwinds

Another example of your Excellent Posts. High Quality..


What I believe we have to do is take notice, come to understand this experience (World)
and change our Living Habits. This involves redesigning our buildings and "decentralize".

Changes will take place as they have done before.

Note these Earthquakes are in the Boundaries of "Tectonic Plates".

And its all to do with The "Thermal Cycle/s" involving the Earth.


It's Not so much the Temperature at the surface of the planet, but rather the behaviour
regarding the Flow of Energy, from within the Earth itself.

As Temperature rises slightly, the Earth expands a little, which brings about more activity
between the "Tectonic Plates".

NOT to be confused with the mechanics involving "Continental Drift" etc.


These temperature differences, tend to tear the Plates apart, rather than one sliding on another.


Japan is a typical example of this which can be seen by the tsunami configuration.

This is shown by its unusual wave fronts. (Water)

Some tsunamis produce Curved wave fronts while the Japanese tsunami had a Linear wave front.

Linear "Wave Fronts" are produced by the opening and closing action of an "Oceanic Trench" such as what
is around the Pacific Basin.


The one we need to look for, is when such an event takes place again, and water gets through to
the HOT stuff on a large scale, i.e. along a greater distance.

If this happens, then a "Chain Reaction" may take place, tearing the Plates apart, allowing access for
more seawater, to enter cycle upon cycle, until sea water stars to relocate under the Earth crust.

All Hell lets loose when this happens, and a transformation takes place, where the seas relocate
under the earths Crust, within about an 8 to 12 hour period, from start to finish.


When completed, we now have much more room to inhabit, so our "Population Explosion"
no longer exists, as before 4/5ths of the earths surface was covered in water.


LIFE has a strange way of doing things, so we need to learn from LIFE rather than fearing
for ourselves.

Perhaps we ALL need to TRUST LIFE a Little more rather than being at WAR against LIFE
all the time.


The Sun also plays a big role in all of this, BUT not in the way Science believes at present.

The Inner of our Planet also plays a big role in this too which is NOT understood at all by Science.

We All are about to be "Educated" about our "Environment", which will turn out to be far different
than believed by Science at present !   :)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 21, 2013, 08:33:30 pm
[youtube]WWVp2CCu60A[/youtube]

Earth in Decline: Extreme Weather Events - May 2013, Part 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWVp2CCu60A)


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Earth in Decline: Extreme Weather Events - May 2013, Part 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ek5PtRLuI4)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 21, 2013, 08:36:34 pm
[youtube]N5wPd-H-hpI[/youtube]


Extreme Weather Phenomena Escalating Worldwide - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5wPd-H-hpI)

Published on May 7, 2013
Over the past year the world has experienced unprecedented and bizarre weather phenomena - from record breaking heat and cold to increasing earthquake activity worldwide. It's not just global warming, but rather, a system wide surge of strange weather activity. ??

This video compiles extreme earth changes and weather events, with footage including meteors entering the atmosphere, sinkholes opening up worldwide, the discovery of dark lightning, increasing volcano activity, and a uniquely unusual UFO sighting in Ireland.??

While this video does NOT imply extreme weather is a result of human activity - it does suggest that climate change is real and occurring all around us.

Whatever the source, one may ask - will extreme weather define our world's history for decades to come?
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 21, 2013, 08:54:03 pm

State of the Climate | Global Analysis - May 2013 (http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2013/5)

Global Highlights

   •   The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for May 2013 tied with 1998 and 2005 as the third warmest on record, at 0.66°C (1.19°F) above the 20th century average of 14.8°C (58.6°F).

   •   The global land surface temperature was 1.11°C (2.00°F) above the 20th century average of 11.1°C (52.0°F), also the third warmest May on record. For the ocean, the May global sea surface temperature was 0.49°C (0.88°F) above the 20th century average of 16.3°C (61.3°F), tying with 2003 and 2009 as the fifth warmest May on record.

   •   The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for the March–May period was 0.59°C (1.06°F) above the 20th century average of 13.7°C (56.7°F), tying with 2004 as the eighth warmest such period on record.

   •   The March–May worldwide land surface temperature was 0.97°C (1.75°F) above the 20th century average, the 11th warmest such period on record. The global ocean surface temperature for the same period was 0.45°C (0.81°F) above the 20th century average and tied with 2001 as the seventh warmest such period on record.

   •   The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for the January–May period (year-to-date) was 0.59°C (1.06°F) above the 20th century average of 13.1°C (55.5°F), the eighth warmest such period on record.


Select national information is highlighted below:

(Edit by thorfourwinds: Aa usual, most of the links provided by NOAA were invalid.)  :P
“ERROR 404
We apologize, but the page or resource for which you are looking could not be located.”
(Of course, we fixed ‘em.)

   •   According to the Finnish Meteorological Institute (http://en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/), May was unusually warm across the country, with the greatest warmth in the north. Temperatures were 4°C (7°F) above average in northernmost Lapland and 2°–3°C (4°–6°F) above average in southern and western Finland.
      
   •   Norway (http://met.no/Klima/Klimastatistikk/Varet_i_Norge/2013/mai_2013/) observed one of its warmest Mays in the country's 113-year period of record, with a monthly average temperature 2.6°C (4.7°F) above the 1971–2000 average. Trøndelag region was record warm and Northern Norway was second warmest on record.
      
   •   Iceland (http://en.vedur.is/)observed a monthly average temperature that was 0.5°C (0.9°F) below the 1961–1990 average, marking the coolest May since 2005.
      
   •   May 2013 ranked among the top five warmest Mays over the past century for Sweden (http://www.smhi.se/en). Several stations were record warm, including Sarna in northern Dalarna (records began in 1892) and Östersund / Frösön (records began in 1937) that were 10.4°C (18.7°F) and 10.5°C (18.9°F) above their respective averages. Many other stations reported near-record warmth for the month.
      
   •   The nationally-averaged monthly May temperature for Spain was 1.3°C (2.3°F) below the long-term mean, the coldest May on record since 1985 according to AEMet (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.aemet.es/&prev=/search%3Fq%3DAEMet%2BMeteorological%2BInstitute,%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den). The coldest anomalies were observed across the north of the country. The port city of Santander, Catabria on the north coast had its coolest May since records began in 1951.
      
   •   The Republic of Moldova had monthly temperatures that were 2.5–3.5°C (4.5–6.3°F) above normal, an event that occurs on average every 10 to 15 years, according to Moldova's national meteorological agency, Serviciul Hidrometeorologic de Stat.Meteo in Moldova pentru 7 zile, vremea prognoza meteo in Chisinau (http://www.meteo.md/mold/nsluna.htm)
         
   •   The nationally-averaged May maximum temperature for Australia (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/month/aus/archive/201305.summary.shtml)was 0.80°C (1.44°F) above the 1961–1990 average. Anomalies were highest over South Australia, with a monthly temperature of 2.38°C (4.28°F) above average, the fourth warmest May in its 104-year period of record. The May minimum temperature was record high for the state, at 2.57°C (4.63°F) above average, breaking the previous record set in 1921 by 0.32°C (0.58°F). Western Australia and the Northern Territory each had top 10 warm minimum May temperatures.
   •   
   •   At the South Pole station in Antarctica, the average May temperature was -62.4°C (-80.3°F), 4.5°C (-8.1°F) below average. Minimum temperature records were broken at this station on two days during the month.

The average global sea surface temperature for May was 0.49°C (0.88°F) above average, tying with 2003 and 2009 as the fifth warmest May on record. Prior to the start of the Atlantic hurricane season, which begins June 1st, sea surface temperatures in the Main Development Region of this basin were much warmer than average.

Generally, higher-than-average temperatures in this region are one of the factors that help provide ideal conditions for an active hurricane season. For the 14th straight month, ENSO conditions across the eastern and central equatorial Pacific Ocean remained neutral; however, below-average sea surface temperatures in the eastern equatorial Pacific did strengthen compared with the previous month.

According to NOAA's Climate Prediction Center (http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_advisory/ensodisc.html), neutral conditions are favored through the Northern Hemisphere summer 2013. Elsewhere, record warm sea surface temperatures were observed in part of the northeastern Pacific, the western equatorial Pacific near the Philippines, sections of the Indian Ocean off of the southern Australian coast, and the eastern Mediterranean Sea.

No record cold ocean surface temperatures were observed across the globe during May. Images of sea surface temperature conditions are available for all weeks during 2013 from the weekly SST page (http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/sst/weekly-sst.php).
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on July 11, 2013, 02:09:11 pm
Worst floods in 50 years lay waste to China’s Beichuan county- 30 believed buried alive
Posted on July 10, 2013


(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/68645000/jpg/_68645541_68644260.jpg)


Quote
July 10, 2013 – BEIJING — Flooding in western China, the worst in 50 years for some areas, triggered a landslide Wednesday that buried about 30 people, trapped hundreds in a highway tunnel and destroyed a high-profile memorial to a devastating 2008 earthquake. Meanwhile, to the northeast, at least 12 workers were killed when a violent rainstorm caused the collapse of an unfinished coal mine workshop they were building, said a statement from the city government of Jinzhong, where the accident occurred. The accident Tuesday night came amid heavy rain and high winds across a swath of northern China, including the capital, Beijing. There was no immediate word on the chances of survival for the 30 or so people buried in the landslide in the city of Dujiangyan in Sichuan province, but rescue workers with search dogs rushed to the area, the official Xinhua News Agency said. State-run China Central Television said hundreds of people were trapped in a highway tunnel between Dujiangyan and Wenchuan – the epicenter of the earthquake five
years ago that left 90,000 people dead or missing.

Authorities were not able to make contact with the people, the report said. Mudslides and flooding are common in China’s mountainous areas, killing hundreds of people every year. Deforestation has led to soil erosion and made some parts of China prone to mudslides after strong rains. In nearby Beichuan county, flooding destroyed buildings and wrecked exhibits at a memorial for the 2008 earthquake. The quake left the Beichuan county seat unlivable. The town was abandoned, and 27 square kilometers (10 square miles) of ruins were turned into a memorial and museum. The flooding also caused the collapse of an almost 50-year-old bridge in a neighboring county, sending six vehicles into the raging waters and leaving 12 people missing. Since Sunday, flooding in Sichuan has affected 360,000 people, damaging or destroying 300 homes and forcing at least 6,100 emergency evacuations, state media reported. –Charlotte Observer


Worst floods in 50 years lay waste to China’s Beichuan county (http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/worst-floods-in-50-years-lay-waste-to-chinas-beichuan-county-30-believed-buried-alive/)

At least 7 dead, 48 missing in west China flooding (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/07/10/4156400/west-china-flooding-destroys-earthquake.html)


[youtube]GMAQVKAV-8I[/youtube]
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 18, 2013, 08:07:41 am

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/rollingwave.jpg)

On July 16, the sun unleashed a coronal mass ejection that is heading toward Earth. (courtesy: SDO)


Coronal mass ejection heading toward Earth, may spark Northern Lights (http://globalnews.ca/news/722806/coronal-mass-ejection-heading-toward-earth-may-spark-northern-lights/)


17 July 2013

By Nicole Mortillaro  Global News

TORONTO – If the skies are clear the next few nights, Canadians might get a light show.

On July 16, the sun unleashed an Earth-directed coronal mass ejection (CME). A coronal mass ejection, a release of plasma and particles, can eject a billion tons of matter and travel at several million kilometres per hour. This CME should reach Earth on July 18.

When they reach Earth, the particles get trapped in our magnetic field, resulting in Northern Lights. Typically Northern Lights, or aurorae, are visible closer to Earth’s poles. As Canadians, we are in a prime viewing location.

An Earth-directed CME can cause a geomagnetic storm, which funnels energy into our planet’s magnetosphere for a few days. Aside from producing the Northern Lights, CMEs can also disrupt communication signals and cause electrical surges in power grids. In 1989, an Earth-directed CME caused a blackout in Quebec for several days.



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/aurora.jpg)

Aurorae dance in the skies near Lake Diefenbaker, about 100 kilometres south of Saskatoon. (Garry Stone)


NASA said that typically, geomagnetic storms of this magnitude have been mild.

NASA has determined that this CME left the sun at 900 km/s. It may also pass by the MESSENGER spacecraft orbited Mercury as well as the Juno spacecraft that is on its way to Jupiter. NASA operators may put the spacecraft into safe-mode to protect their instruments.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 07, 2013, 10:52:48 pm
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Katrina-Haiyan.png) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/qu527c7342.png)


[youtube]AIDvItCGVuI[/youtube]

Typhoon Haiyan / Yolanda in Tacloban City Leyte, Philippines (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIDvItCGVuI)

Published on Nov 7, 2013
The strongest typhoon of the year has reached Eastern Samar in the Philippines, according to meteorologists.

Thousands of residents have been evacuated from villages in Haiyan's path amid fears the wind damage could be the worst in Philippines history.

President Benigno Aquino III assured residents in high-risk areas, including 100 coastal communities, of war-like preparations with three C-130 air force cargo planes and 32 military helicopters and planes on standby, along with 20 navy ships.

"No typhoon can bring Filipinos to their knees if we'll be united," he said in a televised address.

The US Navy's Joint Typhoon Warning Center in Hawaii said Haiyan's maximum sustained winds were 314km per hour (195 mph), with gusts up to 379km per hour (235 mph).

Local journalist Mike Cohen told Sky News: "We're seeing a lot of strong winds but not a lot of rain. The eye of the storm has not yet made landfall, this is just the outer wall of the storm and it's 600km across.

"There are already reports of some landslides and very strong storm surge entering towns and villages in the path of the storm."

Jeff Masters, a former hurricane meteorologist who is meteorology director at the private firm Weather Underground warned residents to prepare for "catastrophic damage".

"195-mile-per-hour winds; there aren't too many buildings constructed that can withstand that kind of wind. The wind damage should be the most extreme in Phillipines history,"

he said.

Local Philippines meterologists forecast lower readings, saying the storm's speed at landfall had sustained winds at 234km per hour (145mph) with gusts of 275km per hour (170.88 mph).

Haiyan is forecast to barrel through the Philippines' central region before blowing toward the South China Sea over the weekend, heading towards Vietnam.

The head of the government's main disaster response agency in the capital Manila said people are still being moved from communities prone to landslides and flooding.

These include residents of Bohol, many of whom are still living in tents after being made homeless following an earthquake last month

But there is hope that, as Haiyan is a fast-moving storm, flooding from heavy rain - which usually causes the most deaths from typhoons in the Philippines - may not be as bad.

Haiyan is the 24th tropical storm to hit the Philippines this year.

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 05, 2013, 07:00:00 pm
Fukushima Fallout Express
( Jet Stream )
Spawns Epic U.S. Ice Storm



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/GFS_Model_Sunday.png)



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/epic_5dec13_1256pm.png)


UPDATE 2 PM: Here's a map comparing the forecast for this week's storm versus the one in January 2009,
which killed 23 people and knocked out power to 1,400,000 customers:



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/2009_ice_storm.png)


Oops !

Much bigger impact this time, and the 'squall line' keeps moving Southward with each update.
  :P



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/2013_icy_mix.png)

ORIGINAL POST: The forecasts are coming into agreement on a major ice storm over the next week,
one that could last for several days, causing "regional" power outages.
Indeed, some of the ice amounts that the forecasts are printing out are extreme.



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/590x395_12041753_ufdb-acmice--pa-144-b-ufdbacumicenews.jpg)

The map above shows the estimated ice (sleet + freezing rain accumulation)
from our internal "AccuModel" (a model blend tweaked by our meteorologists).

Clearly, it's off the chart.

Part of this is because the ice will simply last for such a long time...
the GFS model has been forecasting that the ice (red & orange) could last nearly two days.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/590x785_12041743_earth1204a.jpg)


This would be terrible for power outages:

- January 2009 ice storm (1.4 million lost power)
- December 2007 ice storm (1.2 million)
- Dec. 12, 2008, ice storm (1 million)
- Dec. 15, 2005, ice storm: (700,000)
- Others (including 1998, at 3-4 million).

Yesterday, the 4KM NMM model printed out 5 inches of sleet!


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/BaktaVUCQAAuEsX.png)



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/U_S__Snowfall_forcast_5dec13.png)

Don't eat the yellow snow!   :P

The Sperry-Piltz Ice Accumulation Index (SPIA) (http://www.spia-index.com/scIce.php), a newly developed ice storm rating system, will be interesting to watch during this event, although forecasts only go out 36 hours.


Locked and loaded and we'll see.   :P

This is what is looked like when OPERATIONS TREE DISASTER RELIEF TEAM rolled into the January, 2009 ice storm.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/gravescountycourthouse_icestorm-650.jpg)



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/NWS_Louisville_Ice_Map.png)




(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/AR_ice_storm.jpg)




(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/ice_highway_trees_car.jpg)




(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/ice_storm_AR_tree_house.jpg)




(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/ice_tree_x_street.jpg)


And this from a few minutes ago:   :P


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/thor_cantori_twit.png)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)

tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

FUKUSHIMA FALLOUT CLOCK
Elapsed Time since March 11, 2011, 2:46 PM - Fukushima, Japan (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20110311T1446&p0=2155)

The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5453.msg74364#msg74364)

“In a time of universal deceit
telling the truth is considered a revolutionary act."
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: sky otter on December 06, 2013, 07:14:38 am
 ;D

ah Thor
the weather channel is one of my favorite things to watch..i think it is the geography !
but dang
they make you think the world is ending every broadcast..lol
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: sky otter on January 27, 2014, 07:57:51 am



and now a frost quake.. really..unreal

hubby woke up with the wind hitting thw house around 4 and said he saw lightning too
the last wind and below zero temps took out our greenhouse ( it was coming down in the spring but dang)


http://www.timesherald.com/general-news/20140124/frost-quakes-a-real-possibility-geologist-says

Frost quakes a real possibility, geologist says
By MICHAEL ROKNICK, The Sharon Herald
Posted: 01/24/14, 4:54 PM EST |

SHARON, Pa. (AP) — If you heard a bang or felt the earth shake a bit Tuesday night you weren’t alone.

The noise and accompanying vibration were reported from Hubbard to South Pymatuning Township.

Unlike the mysterious explosion sounds people reported hearing last summer in various parts of Mercer County, this sound was literally closer to home.

“It was like something hit the house,” people said over and over again.

While he can’t say with scientific certainty, geologist Lindell Bridges said he believes the sound came from a phenomenon known as cryoseisms - more commonly known as frost quakes.

“I think it’s a very good possibility,” Bridges said of the clamor and vibrationst. “I think that’s exactly what you heard.”

The president of Pure Earth Resources LLC in Sharpsville is called upon for his services in the oil, gas and mining industries. And while he never experienced a frost quake firsthand, he believes there’s a strong case to be made that such an event occurred in the area.

“It’s pretty uncommon for it to happen — but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen,” he said.

During past couple weeks frost quakes have been reported in Canada, Wisconsin, Vermont, Cincinnati and elsewhere.

Two primary elements are needed to trigger frost quakes - water saturated ground and a sharp drop in temperature. Both conditions were present; heavy rains last week soaked the ground and in recent days temperatures rapidly dropped more than 40 degrees.

Frost quakes occur mainly at night when temperatures bottom out. As the water in the ground freezes, it expands and cracks the soil, bedrock or stones around it to create room.

“It’s something like an earthquake, Bridges said. “The reason you get an earthquake is stress builds up in the ground and it breaks and releases stored-up energy.”

There are significant differences. Earthquakes occur a mile or two beneath the surface when fault lines shift. Frost quakes are five feet beneath the surface or closer.

“It sounds like the near surface groundwater was frozen and built up some stress and finally exceeded the stress limit and it broke just like an earthquake - only much closer to the surface,” Bridges said.

Besides the sound and vibration, people have reported seeing distant flashing lights before or during frost quakes. Those likely are caused by electrical changes when rocks are compressed. Cracks and fissures may also be seen on the surface, which can range from a few inches up to a couple miles.

Bridges advised anyone who might have experienced a frost quake to check around their homes.

“I would inspect around the house to see if anything is out of order,” he said. “I doubt that it would crack a foundation. But if you have a natural gas or water line and smell or see gas or water seeping, call the gas or water company. Those lines are probably deeper than any damage you might see on the surface - but it’s better to be safe than sorry.”

Mercer County 911 said dispatchers had not received any reports of loud sounds or damage.




good pictures here but won’t let me copy..sorry
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2538979/Wisconsin-cold-experiencing-ice-quakes.html

'Ice quakes' hit Wisconsin: Deep booms heard in the middle of the night cracks open in frozen ground
Ice quakes occur when water sinks into the soil, freezes and expands
The expansion causes a popping sound that can sound like gunshots and even feel like an earthquake
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: sky otter on May 06, 2014, 04:35:42 pm


Rare Earthquake Warning Issued for Oklahoma



Mile for mile, there are almost as many earthquakes rattling Oklahoma as California this year. This major increase in seismic shaking led to a rare earthquake warning this week from the U.S. Geological Survey and the Oklahoma Geological Survey.

In a joint statement on Monday, the agencies said the risk of a damaging earthquake — one larger than magnitude 5.0 — has significantly increased in central Oklahoma.

Geologists don't know when or where the state's next big earthquake will strike, nor will they put a number on the increased risk. "We haven't seen this before in Oklahoma, so we had some concerns about putting a specific number on the chances of it," Robert Williams, a research geophysicist with the USGS Earthquake Hazards Program in Golden, Colorado, told Live Science. "But we know from other cases around the world that if you have an increasing number of small earthquakes, the chances of a larger one will go up." [Watch 2500+ Oklahoma Earthquakes Since 2012 (Video)]

That's why earthquakes of magnitude 5 and larger are more frequent in states such as California and Alaska, where thousands of smaller temblors hit every year.

This is the first time the USGS has issued an earthquake warning for a state east of the Rockies, Williams said. Such seismic hazard assessments are more typically issued for Western states following large quakes, to warn residents of the risk of damaging aftershocks, he said.

The geological agencies took action after the rate of earthquakes in Oklahoma outpaced that of even California for the first few months of 2014. (California regained the lead in April.) [The 10 Biggest Earthquakes in History]

"The rate of earthquakes increased dramatically in March and April," Williams said. "That alerted us to examine this further and put out this advisory statement."

- Becky Oskin, LiveScience
This is a condensed version of a report from LiveScience. Read the full report. Email Becky Oskin or follow her @beckyoskin. Follow us @OAPlanet, Facebook and Google+. Original article at Live Science's Our Amazing Planet.

•Oklahoma: 2500+ Earthquakes Since 2012 - Wastewater to Blame? | Visualization
•7 Ways the Earth Changes in the Blink of an Eye
•Image Gallery: This Millennium's Destructive Earthquakes
•Top 10 Ways to Destroy Earth


http://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/rare-earthquake-warning-issued-oklahoma-n98496
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 29, 2015, 07:25:51 pm
4/29/2015 — East coast earthquake movement begins — New Hampshire 2.3M event — Earthquake forecast hit | Dutchsinse (http://dutchsinse.com/4292015-east-coast-earthquake-movement-begins-new-hampshire-2-3m-event-earthquake-forecast-hit/)

29 April 2015

New Hampshire / New England has been hit with an earthquake, as expected.  Measuring in at a magnitude 2.3.

This small earthquake event is a sign of the greater pressure on the carton.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/new-hampshire-east-coast-craton-earthquake-april-29-2015.jpg)


5 days ago, on April 24th, New England / SE Quebec (along the US Canada border) was named in the earthquake forecast for possible earthquake activity.

At about 19 minutes into this video I discuss the Northeast, and the possibility of an earthquake near the US / SE Quebec border… which New Hampshire resides along the border of.

[youtube]6N8JU2ep8H4[/youtube]

4/24/2015 -- Global Earthquake Activity on the rise -- Full earthquake update + forecast - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N8JU2ep8H4)


Information on this 2.3M earthquake in New Hampshire from the USGS:

M2.3 – 1km ESE of Sanbornton, New Hampshire
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/ld60090596#scientific_origin:ld_ld60090596

MAGNITUDE / UNCERTAINTY              2.3 ml± 0.3
LOCATION / UNCERTAINTY                 43.485°N 71.570°W± 0.4 km
DEPTH / UNCERTAINTY                      5.0 km± 31.6
ORIGIN TIME                                     2015-04-29 08:11:23.940 UTC
NUMBER OF STATIONS                      39
NUMBER OF PHASES                          65
MINIMUM DISTANCE                          7.00 km (0.06°)
TRAVEL TIME RESIDUAL                     0.55 sec
AZIMUTHAL GAP                                47°
FE REGION                                        New Hampshire (474)

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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 29, 2015, 07:31:11 pm
[youtube]graQDfDT7T0[/youtube]

4/29/2015 -- Hawaii Volcano Alert -- Kilauea lava lake COMPLETELY overflows - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=graQDfDT7T0)

Published on Apr 29, 2015
by DUTCHSINCE
REUSE BY MEDIA AND OTHER CHANNELS FULLY ALLOWED -- just give credit back to the USGS and to me for putting the video together.   :)

April 29, 2015 -- 11am Hawaii Time -- The lava lake inside the the Kilauea volcanic crater has now fully overflowed into the greater crater !!

Full website post here, with screenshots of the event as it built up over the past several days (and weeks): 4/27/2015 — Lava Lake in Hawaii at record levels — Locals come from miles around to see rare event | Dutchsinse (http://dutchsinse.com/4262015-lava-lake-in-hawaii-at-record-levels-locals-come-from-miles-around-to-see-rare-event/)

This rare event is being watched closely by the USGS , and local Hawaii residents who have not seen this kind of activity before in this particular lava lake.

No one knows what the next step in this event will be, but ultimately everyone who studies this volcano knows that these very high levels of lava will eventually build to a point where the lava lake drains-- forming new lava flows on the flanks of Kilauea + Pu'u O'o volcanic complexes.

I did a full explanation on WHY these event is happening, see that video from a day ago (April 28th) here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTTWdxnCZDs
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 30, 2015, 01:02:53 pm
Measuring in at a magnitude 2.3.
This small earthquake event is a sign of the greater pressure on the carton.

Back in Toronto we used to have on average over 750 small earthquakes annually  all below 3.0

So what does that mean? Well as long as there are several small quakes continuously the pressure doesn't have a chance to build to a Big Snap like we saw in Japan

Look at the Richter scale...  it is based on a ten fold logarithmic system

(http://www.sms-tsunami-warning.com/theme/tsunami/img/earthquakes/richter-scale/richter_scale_graphic_representation.gif)

So looking at the USA Annually...

Less than 2.0   Micro   I   Microearthquakes, not felt, or felt rarely by sensitive people. Recorded by seismographs.   Continual/several million per year

2.0–2.9   Minor   I to II   Felt slightly by some people. No damage to buildings.   Over one million per year

3.0–3.9   II to IV   Often felt by people, but very rarely causes damage. Shaking of indoor objects can be noticeable.   Over 100,000 per year

IRIS doesn't even bother listing them until they are a 4.0

http://ds.iris.edu/seismon/

A few years ago at ATS there was a big Bruhaha over Alaska getting a swarm of over 120 quakes in a few days,,, Scary huh?  But when you look at the history of those Aleutian Islands you will see that is about normal :P
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 30, 2015, 01:23:07 pm
That's why earthquakes of magnitude 5 and larger are more frequent in states such as California and Alaska, where thousands of smaller temblors hit every year.

I see this was a year ago  but here is today's reading from Oklahoma

29-APR-2015 16:42:26   36.29   -97.53   4.1   2   0   OKLAHOMA     5112272
04-APR-2015 13:21:17   36.13   -97.57   4.2   5   18   OKLAHOMA     5109477
27-APR-2015 22:22:17   35.95   -97.35   4.1   4   41   OKLAHOMA     5112074
19-APR-2015 05:27:15   35.94   -97.34   4.1   8   43   OKLAHOMA     5111078
08-APR-2015 20:51:59   35.85   -97.42   4.3   5   50   OKLAHOMA     5109882

Gotta love 'scientists' Seems there are 20 opinions all touted as fact :D  Some say the small earthquake relieving pressure is a myth, others say dropping nukes along the fault to bump it along is the answer.  Even USGS says there are not enough small ones to stop the occasional bug one from happening "So, even though we always record many more small events than large ones, there are far too few to eliminate the need for the occasional large earthquake."

California and Alaska get more quakes because they are on the Ring of Fire  DOH!!! Alaska is a subduction zone like Japan and the Aluetian Is are a long sting of volcanoes 

There are faults all over the world  Some active others not recorded yet. When we bought our house here in Vegas I got a soil study map from the county  showing the under ground rivers, subduction areas and fault lines  This is one but I have a large more detailed map

(http://earthquakes.unlv.edu/map/Fault%20Map_Large.jpg)

People seem to forget that all the mountain ranges in the US were created by earth movement :P and are still forming

This is the first time the USGS has issued an earthquake warning for a state east of the Rockies, Williams said. Such seismic hazard assessments are more typically issued for Western states following large quakes, to warn residents of the risk of damaging aftershocks, he said.

The geological agencies took action after the rate of earthquakes in Oklahoma outpaced that of even California for the first few months of 2014. (California regained the lead in April.) [The 10 Biggest Earthquakes in History]

"The rate of earthquakes increased dramatically in March and April," Williams said. "That alerted us to examine this further and put out this advisory statement."

- Becky Oskin, LiveScience
This is a condensed version of a report from LiveScience. Read the full report. Email Becky Oskin or follow her @beckyoskin. Follow us @OAPlanet, Facebook and Google+. Original article at Live Science's Our Amazing Planet.

•Oklahoma: 2500+ Earthquakes Since 2012 - Wastewater to Blame? | Visualization
•7 Ways the Earth Changes in the Blink of an Eye
•Image Gallery: This Millennium's Destructive Earthquakes
•Top 10 Ways to Destroy Earth


http://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/rare-earthquake-warning-issued-oklahoma-n98496
[/quote]
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 26, 2015, 05:34:02 pm
Quayle Alert: Jade Helm Revenge Starts? Bastrop TX Stood Up Against the Jade Helm Excercise & Look What’s Happening -Deadly Weather Warfare Right Before our Eyes Against Them (http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=1424)

Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:21


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(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/1-15%20May%202013/Ikefire.photo.jpg)


As I’m looking through breaking news headlines, and seeing the continuous references to the extreme weather so concentrated over TX, and coupled with the continuous chemtrailing that happens throughout the US, I can’t help but think that what is going on right now as part of the Jade Helm “exercise”, could not actually be the domestic roll out of weather warfare on an aggressive scale. We know they can control the weather to at least some degree.

We know that the chemtrailing over CA and in the Pacific modifies the jet stream to both keep CA dry and to force that precipitation east towards TX and other southern states. We know that Jade Helm is “pretending” that TX is a hostile enemy that must be engaged. The military is already rolling out across the state as part of this “drill”.

Why then, is it not reasonable to assume that as part of this “mock civil war drill” that they would not practice using the tools that they have in their arsenal? They used typhoons against the enemy in the Vietnam War, why would they not use this form of warfare against a domestic enemy as well?

I mean, how perfect is it that the military will be on hand to help “assist” the state with any effects of this “freak weather”?

The citizens would stand down as the military rolls into major cities to assist in “humanitarian efforts” as opposed to protesting martial law drills in their peaceful state.

It’s just too coincidental that this Jade Helm thing is going on with TX the stated target, the biker shooting in Waco involved the Banditos gang which a year ago Holder’s (criminal) Justice Dept released a report about that gang and stated concern that they have many active and retired military, police and other federal government personnel as members (one of their “red list” targets that now they can portray as criminals), AND on top of all that TX is being completely hammered with extreme weather that seems suspiciously like what one would characterize as weather war.

I’m sorry, but to me this all seems too coincidental and too perfectly timed not to be part of an orchistrated and unified program. This is just conjecture but as we know, the truth is most often stranger than fiction.

Thought maybe I’d share this perspective as something to be considering as the alternative media tries to stay a step ahead of where they want us to be.

May God bless and protect you!

May 26, 2015
http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=1424
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on May 26, 2015, 07:40:58 pm
Gee I wonder what people did before all the neat pretty radar images beamed to their home computers. I remember a local weatherman back in the 50's using a whiteboard to hand draw the paths of hurricanes! The earth is an evolving moving piece of rock and water. It's been doing this for 4.5 billion years!!! Without puny humans input. We just know faster what's been happening. Much to do about nothing! Everyday ocurances.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 23, 2015, 09:51:08 am
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11:21  #1 Environmental Threat Revealed - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKTe4yy1x0Y)

Published on Jul 21, 2015
Infowars reporter Rex Jones details the biggest threat to our environment today, Genetically Modified Organisms.

In this in depth report, Rex covers: litter, runoff, Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD), particulates coming in from the jet stream and nuclear radiation coming from places like Fukushima; yet none of these compare to the genetic roulette we are playing with GMOs.

We know the consequential damages of pollution, but do we really know the dangers of GMOs, and can we trust our government to tell us?
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on July 23, 2015, 11:41:18 am
Ice Age is coming :P
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on July 24, 2015, 01:46:11 am
Gee I wonder what people did before all the neat pretty radar images beamed to their home computers.

They used the FARMERS ALMANAC

My daughter has been watching that  Seems they have 100% accurately predicted the weather here for Las Vegas this year  about two weeks ahead

And it has been a very odd year  80F in Jan  cool till end of May (I needed no Ac till June) Then record ever high for June and back to cooler than normal for July   all predicted within a few degrees by the Almanac

Ice Age is a commin  :P
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on July 24, 2015, 03:03:37 am
We just know faster what's been happening. Much to do about nothing! Everyday ocurances.

Not exactly :P   Severe weather changes happen when you get closer to a temperature flip. And when it happens it happens FAST

You recall the Ice Core sample chart I have posted many times

(https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11218754_496240333885848_6421073050986956751_n.jpg?oh=1d85ec5833ae7df7d4b9a35e605149c3&oe=561047ED)

THIS chart is using a different dataset but when you compare the two... they are almost identical

(https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11226171_960741420636705_4063540311165341890_n.jpg?oh=0a24f9587cd689f666770ffbd322ba3c&oe=564C21E6)

And now even NASA is saying ICE AGE   

Early records of sunspots indicate that the Sun went through a period of inactivity in the late 17th century. Very few sunspots were seen on the Sun from about 1645 to 1715 (38 kb JPEG image). Although the observations were not as extensive as in later years, the Sun was in fact well observed during this time and this lack of sunspots is well documented. This period of solar inactivity also corresponds to a climatic period called the "Little Ice Age" when rivers that are normally ice-free froze and snow fields remained year-round at lower altitudes. There is evidence that the Sun has had similar periods of inactivity in the more distant past. The connection between solar activity and terrestrial climate is an area of on-going research.

http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/SunspotCycle.shtml
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on July 24, 2015, 07:07:49 am


THE power of the press


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/theres-a-mad-rush-to-buy-earthquake-survival-kits-in-seattle/ar-AAdnGVQ


There's a Mad Rush to Buy Earthquake Survival Kits in Seattle

And the people felt the ground shaking and saw the water rising. Or at least, they heard the cries of the New Yorker saying so. And when the people knew that the Big One was coming, they trembled with fear. Well, some of them did.

The Biblical tone is appropriate. There really is a 9.0 earthquake/skyscraper-sized tsunami predicted to unmoor coastal life as we know it in the Pacific Northwest—quite possibly within the next 50 years.
Last week the New Yorker trumpeted the story of these apocalyptic truths with terrifying exactness. 13,000 are projected to die, and millions more will be injured or displaced. It will take decades, and an incalculable sum, to recover.

But the article’s fear-mongering has also had an activating effect:
People are suddenly buying emergency survival kits in droves. The Seattle Timeswrites of earthquake packages ‘flying off shelves’:


“Holy cow!” Steve O’Donnell remembers thinking, as he checked the online orders at the Burien headquarters of American Preparedness.



Sales were going through the roof.

If you go on the websites of Costco, Staples or Amazon, you’ll see the small, eight-person company’s earthquake-preparedness kits for sale.

For $179.99, you can get a 2-person, 7-day kit.

For $139.99, it’s a 4-person, 3-day kit.

video at link
Packed with water, meal bars, ponchos, matches, and much more, these kits offer a convenient measure of preparedness, which the region is woefully short on. As the New Yorker article details, the region’s states are still lax on building standards and lack much in the way of evacuation training or communication. One Oregon community recently voted down a bond measure that would have paid for a new K-12 campus outside the tsunami inundation zone.

And even though American Preparedness is seeing a sharp rise in sales, the uptick in action isn’t universal. The Seattle Times writes:


Only a quarter of Seattleites are putting together an earthquake kit and building a family plan, says Barb Graff, director of emergency management for the city. That’s from a just-completed city survey.

And this “boomlet” for survival kits is probably just that—a temporary spark in concern, lit by a viral article. As I recently wrote, psychology tells us that we tend to have trouble getting worked up and mobilized over risks that are far-off and faceless. Certainly, it helps when an influential magazine runs a particularly well-written account of what those risks will look like.

To really sustain and spread an interest in preparedness, however, the Pacific Northwest will need to do more than stock earthquake kits. Government agencies will need to regularly, and thoughtfully, communicate the risks of the earthquake and tsunami to come. Building standards should be amped up and reported to the public. Cities should help subsidize the relatively low costs of securing foundations and bolting water heaters for homeowners and apartment managers.

But there’s no doubt that emergency kits are a great place to start. And anyone—whether their city is prone to earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes, or stormy power outages—can prepare their own kits. The Centers for Disease Control,FEMA, and the city of Seattle all have handy tips and checklists. We can hope to never have to use them. Unfortunately, as big natural hazards increase in frequency and severity all over the world, the odds have never been higher.

Top image: Photka/Shutterstock.com.



Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on July 24, 2015, 07:18:53 am
(https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11218754_496240333885848_6421073050986956751_n.jpg?oh=1d85ec5833ae7df7d4b9a35e605149c3&oe=561047ED)
That chart's time axis starts at 10,000 years before present, so that "Today" arrow is misleading.

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And now even NASA is saying ICE AGE
Where do they say "ICE AGE"? I could only see reference to the "little ice age".
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on July 24, 2015, 11:01:37 am
When Japan had their BIG ONE...

people bought Potasium Iodide pills and Geiger Counters 

They bought so many Pills in regions that had no need for them that the areas that DID need them had no supply

A $10.00 bottle was selling on Ebay for over $300.00. There is always some Sad Sack that will profit on disaster

Geiger Counters were relatively cheap  This Gamma Scout just before Fukushima was around $90.00

(http://ct1aic.dyndns.info/radioactive/images/gamma-scout01.gif)

Shortly after Fukushima they jumped to around $899.00

Today they have dropped and settled in at $599.00
http://www.amazon.com/Geiger-Counter-Gamma-Scout-Online-Version/dp/B009HB0E3Q

This was the unit I wanted to buy just before the SHTF for mineral hunting... but now it is so far out of wack price wise   

This is what FEAR does  it feeds the Money Grubbers

Look at Gasoline prices  just before the "War" against Iraq... prices had dropped to .99 cents for extended periods

Then we get the war after 9/11  and we are told gas prices must jump "because of the war" and everyone bought into it

Never mind that we are noat at war with Iraq  (It's called Operation Iraqi Freedome :P )
Never mind we NEVER bought any oil from Iraq before the "war"
Never mind that OPEC DROPPED prices in fear
Never mind that EXXON made RECORD EVER quarter profits the first year of the "war"

but prices jumped to $4.00  and have only now started to drop to the $3.00 range


It's all about the MONEY

BOYCOTT EXXON :P  Buy your gas from any other dealer (because America will never boycott gasoline) but boycott EXXON and their affiliates    EXXON is the NEW Standard Oil



Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on July 24, 2015, 12:26:15 pm
Where do they say "ICE AGE"? I could only see reference to the "little ICE AGE".

 ::)

Yes the Arrow of TODAY is a tad misleading... we are still a little higher on that warm slope :P  But its COMING...  May be another 50 years but its on the way

But you should be okay in Portugal

(http://www.geowanderweg-sonsbeck.de/images/Flyer_Tafel_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: 08rubicon on July 25, 2015, 08:19:06 am
   Almost all world leaders are claiming that the most important issue today is
 'man made global warming', including the pope. The issue is "man" in global
  warming. The rush to control this problem will eventually lead to an 'extintion
  level event'. Wind turbines will be found to alter air flow and cause deserts,
  solar will be found to contribute to higher temps.The planting, harvesting,
  and transportation of food will be reduced or eliminated..atomic power plants
  will expand, and the human race will be reduced to a few stone age types.
    And that is the good part.Consider me to be optomistic.
     rubicon
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on July 25, 2015, 01:12:40 pm
Wind turbines will be found to alter air flow and cause deserts,

Chemtrail supporters will HATE this picture :P  Wind Turbine contrail effects

(http://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/medium_1x_/public/import/2013/images/2010/01/horns_rev.jpg)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on July 28, 2015, 01:54:12 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-james-hansen/multi-meter-sea-level-rise-is-an-issue-for-todays-public_b_7875828.html

 Dr. James Hansen Become a fan
Climatologist
 Posted:  07/26/2015 10:20 pm EDT    Updated:  07/27/2015 2:59 pm EDT

Disastrous Sea Level Rise Is an Issue for Today's Public --
Not Next Millennium's

In 2005, I argued that ice sheets may be more vulnerable than the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) estimated, mainly because of effects of a warming ocean in speeding ice melt. In 2007, I wrote "Scientific Reticence and Sea Level Rise," describing and documenting a phenomenon that pressures scientists to minimize the danger of imminent sea level rise.

About then I became acquainted with remarkable studies of geologist Paul Hearty. Hearty found strong evidence for sea level rise late in the Eemian to +6-9 m (20-30 feet) relative to today. The Eemian is the prior interglacial period (~120,000 years ago), which was slightly warmer than the present interglacial period (the Holocene) in which civilization developed. Hearty also found evidence for powerful storms in the North Atlantic near the end of the Eemian period.

It seemed that an understanding of the late Eemian climate events might be helpful in assessing the climate effects of human-made global warming, as Earth is now approaching the warmth that existed then. Thus several colleagues and I initiated global climate simulations aimed at trying to understand what happened at the end of the Eemian and its relevance to climate change today.

More than eight years later, we are publishing a paper describing these studies. We are publishing the paper in an open-access "Discussion" journal, which allows the paper to become public while undergoing peer-review (a pdf of the paper with figures imbedded in the text for easier reading is available here). I will get to the reasons for that in a moment, but first let me mention some curious numerology to get you thinking about scientific reticence.

Did you read any of the recent papers that concluded ice sheets may be disintegrating and might cause large sea level rise in 200-900 years? The time needed for ice sheets to respond to climate change is uncertain, and there are proponents for time scales covering a huge range. However, 200-900 years should cause a scientist to scratch his head. If it is uncertain by an order of magnitude or more, why not 100-1000? Where does the 200-900 precision come from?

Why the peculiar 900 years instead of the logical 1000? Probably because nobody cares about matters 1000 years in the future (they may not care about 900, but 200-900 does not seem like infinity). A scientist knowing that sea level is a problem does not want the reader to dismiss it.

Why 200 years? For one thing, 100 years would require taking on the formidable IPCC, which estimates that even the huge climate forcing for a hypothetical 936 ppm CO2 in 2100 would yield less than one meter sea level rise. For another thing, incentives for scientists strongly favor conservative statements and militate against any "alarmist" conclusion; this is the "reticence" phenomenon that infects the sea level rise issue2. "Scientific Reticence and Sea Level Rise" will be the subject of a session at the American Geophysical Union meeting this year.

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Fig. 1. Stratification and precipitation amplifying feedbacks. Stratification: increased freshwater/iceberg flux increases ocean vertical stratification, reduces AABW formation, and traps ocean heat that increases ice shelf melting. Precipitation: increased freshwater/iceberg flux cools ocean mixed layer, increases sea ice area, causing increase of precipitation that falls before it reaches Antarctica, adding to ocean surface freshening and reducing ice sheet growth. Retrograde beds in West Antarctica and the Wilkes Basin, East Antarctica make their large ice amounts vulnerable to such melting.

IPCC conclusions about sea level rise rely substantially on models. Ice sheet models are very sluggish in response to forcings. It is important to recognize a great difference in the status of (atmosphere-ocean) climate models and ice sheet models. Climate models are based on general circulation models that have a long pedigree. The fundamental equations they solve do a good job of simulating atmosphere and ocean circulations. Uncertainties remain in climate models, such as how well they handle the effect of clouds on climate sensitivity. However, the climate models are extensively tested, and paleoclimate changes confirm their approximate sensitivities.

In contrast, we show in a prior paper and our new paper that ice sheet models are far too sluggish compared with the magnitude and speed of sea level changes in the paleoclimate record. This is not surprising, given the primitive state of ice sheet modeling. For example, a recent ice sheet model sensitivity study finds that incorporating the physical processes of hydrofracturing of ice and ice cliff failure increases their calculated sea level rise from 2 meters to 17 meters and reduces the potential time for West Antarctic collapse to decadal time scales. Other researchers7,8 show that part of the East Antarctic ice sheet sits on bedrock well below sea level. Thus, West Antarctica is not the only potential source of rapid change; part of the East Antarctic ice sheet is also susceptible to rapid retreat because of its direct contact with the ocean and because the bed beneath the ice slopes landward (Fig. 1), which makes it less stable.

Our simulations were aimed to test my suspicion that ice sheet disintegration is a very nonlinear phenomena and that the IPCC studies were largely omitting what may be the most important forcing of the ocean: the effect of cold freshwater from melting ice. Rather than use an ice sheet model to estimate rates of freshwater release, we use observations for the present ice melt rate and specify several alternative rates of increase of ice melt. Our atmosphere-ocean model shows that the freshwater spurs amplifying feedbacks that would accelerate ice shelf and ice sheet mass loss, thus providing support for our assumption of a nonlinear ice sheet response.

Our analysis, however, is based on much more than the climate simulations, as it relies on a huge body of research by the relevant scientific communities, as indicated by the 300 references. Our analysis is based on about equal parts of information gleaned from paleoclimate studies, climate modeling, and modern observations of ongoing climate changes.

We submitted our paper to an open-access "Discussion" journal (ACPD) in hopes of engaging the scientific and policy-making communities in an important conversation about the urgency of reducing fossil fuel emissions and the adequacy of current and proposed policies. We conclude, for example, that 2°C global warming, rather than being a safe "guardrail," is highly dangerous.

Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics Discussion is an open-access peer-reviewed journal in which the reviews and our response are published and freely available to the public. We hope this publication procedure will reduce the chance of the paper turning out to be unhelpful, which might be the case if criticisms were misinterpreted by the public. I think there is an analogy of this paper to my congressional testimony in 1988-89. Then as now, conclusions are drawn from a combination of information from paleoclimate, modeling, ongoing observations, and theory.

Stakes in climate change are high, so conclusions about climate change are sure to draw fire. That's as it should be; skepticism is the lifeblood of science, essential to success of an analysis. So criticisms of my testimony, as described well by Richard Kerr, were inevitable and useful.

Kerr's article is instructive about scientific reticence, which can deprive policymakers of the gut feeling of experts. This is all important for sea level rise because of lags in the system (policies ? emissions ? climate change ? sea level rise). Information is needed as soon as possible.

The most perceptive comments in Kerr's interviews may have been, as was often the case, from our good old friend Steve Schneider: "All that objective stuff rests on assumptions. The future is not based on statistics, it's based on physics." By "objective stuff" Steve referred to the arbitrary choices made to define probabilities of an outcome. The media accepts resulting probabilities as meaningful, yet entirely different results would be obtained from alternative initial choices.

Steve's "objective stuff" defines IPCC's sea level analysis precisely. They choose certain 'process-based models' as first choice to define future sea level. This gives sea level rise in 2100 (relative to 1986-2005 mean sea level) of 0.74 m with likely range 0.52-0.98 m for business-as-usual greenhouse gases (RCP8.5 scenario), where 'likely' is defined as >66 percent probability. Ugh.

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Fig. 2. Surface air temperature change relative to 1880-1920 in 2055-2060 based on climate simulations assuming ice melt increases with a 10-year doubling time.

A policymaker will take this as meaning that sea level rise is probably going to be less than a meter even if CO2 increases to 936 ppm, in other words, policymakers will take this "objective stuff" as serious, reliable estimates of what to expect. Yikes! What if someone decided to include processes such as hydrofracturing and ice cliff failure in these objective models?

Steve Schneider modestly described his preferred approach as one based on "physical intuition". In other words, his best judgment based on all of the information at his disposal. "All of the information" surely includes knowledge gained from paleoclimate, modeling, observations of ongoing climate change, understanding of physical processes, etc. Of course, with this approach there is no way to specify an exact number for the sea level rise corresponding to >66 percent chance. Nevertheless, alternatives to the "objective stuff", at least in this case, are superior, in my opinion, but the result does depend on the scientific ability of the practitioner.

Dick Kerr is one of the best science writers. His article contains information relevant to the scientific method in general and how we reach conclusions, not just scientific reticence. He allows readers to think and read between the lines, and draw their own conclusions.

We can always say that more research is needed. Yet as the evidence accumulates at some point a scientist must say it is time to stop waffling so much and say that the evidence is pretty strong. In my opinion, we have reached that point on the sea level issue.

My conclusion, based on the total information available, is that continued high emissions would result in multi-meter sea level rise this century and lock in continued ice sheet disintegration such that building cities or rebuilding cities on coast lines would become foolish.

That brings me to the other reason for publishing in an open-access "discussion" journal, in addition to wanting to give the sea level rise issue more prominence prior to Paris meetings. There is a danger that the public -- not too familiar with the scientific method -- may misinterpret criticisms, which are natural and healthy for science. I'm hoping that this publication process will make that process clearer and thus also make the reality of the climate situation clearer.

A startling conclusion of our paper is that effects of freshwater release onto the Southern Ocean and North Atlantic are already underway and 1-2 decades sooner in the real world than in the model (Fig. 2). Observed effects include sea surface cooling and sea ice increase in the Southern Ocean around Antarctica and cooling in the North Atlantic. We suggest that the sluggishness (delayed response) of the climate models may be a result of a common excessive small scale mixing in many ocean models, including ours, as discussed previously. One of our objectives is to draw attention to this -- I also hope to get support for our group to do climate modeling to investigate the issue, because we recognize several ways that we could improve the model.

Here, I expand on our conclusion that the science indicates 2°C is not a safe target. Indeed, 2°C is not only a wrong target, temperature is a flawed metric due to meltwater effect on temperature. Sea level, a critical metric for humanity, is at least on the same plane. Earth's energy imbalance is a critical metric, because energy balance must be restored to stabilize climate, which thus informs us about the required limit on greenhouse gases (GHGs). The Framework Convention on Climate Change, agreed upon at Rio in 1992, defines GHGs as the critical metric, saying that GHGs must be stabilized at a level that avoids "dangerous anthropogenic interference" with climate. Why have policymakers turned away from GHG amount to temperature as the metric with a value (2°C) seemingly pulled from a hat? Could it be because 2°C allows politicians to set emission targets to be achieved in the future when they will be out of office? If we stick to the Framework Convention's GHG metric, we find that the CO2 stabilization level is not 450 ppm or 400 ppm, it is 350 ppm and possibly lower with immediate implications for policy.

The bottom line message scientists should deliver to policymakers is that we have a global crisis, an emergency that calls for global cooperation to reduce emissions as rapidly as practical. We conclude elsewhere and reaffirm in our present paper that the crisis calls for an across-the-board rising carbon fee and international technical cooperation in carbon-free technologies.

Despite the increased threat of sea level rise, I believe that it is still possible to keep impacts of human-made climate change moderate. However, that optimism is based on the assumption that we are close to the point when it is widely recognized that a policy with an across-the-board rising carbon fee that rapidly phases down carbon emissions also makes good economic sense.




it's already happening.. check out the local news stories for any coastal town or city
like this one..it's old news


http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/southeast/2014/09/22/341140.htm

Miami Hopes Storm Pumps, Seawall Will Protect Against Rising Seas

By Jennifer Kay | September 22, 2014   

Climate change is not only already visible in iconic South Beach, but so is climate change adaptation, in the form of new storm water pumps meant to keep rising sea levels from swamping low-lying streets, city officials said Wednesday.

Extreme high tides in the fall and spring push seawater up through aging infrastructure, flooding some Miami Beach streets with more than a foot of water even on sunny days, snarling vehicle and pedestrian traffic. National and regional climate change risk assessments have used the flooding to illustrate the Miami area’s vulnerability to rising sea levels.

Watching a new storm water pump being readied for installation along the city’s bay front, officials said they hoped the project would make Miami Beach, a barrier island with an average elevation of 4.4 feet above sea level, an example of climate change adaptation instead of only risk.

A system of about 60 new pumps across the city will keep streets dry for the next 25 to 30 years, said Mayor Philip Levine. A higher sea wall also is being built to cope with storm surge flooding.

“The one thing we won’t do as a city is sit by and wait for water to rise around us. We’re taking aggressive, offensive actions,” he said.

At least two pumps will be working by the time the annual king tides emerge later this fall, officials said. Those tides are expected to be almost 3 inches higher than last year, according to National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration projections, and they can be exacerbated by heavy rainfall or offshore ocean swells.

Miami Beach expects to spend up to $400 million over five years to upgrade the storm water system to improve drainage and reduce neighborhood flooding. The Florida Department of Transportation also is installing new pump stations in the city.

According to a regional agreement for climate change adaptation, the waters off South Florida could rise up to 2 feet by 2060. Florida’s porous limestone foundation — structured like Swiss cheese — makes the state particularly vulnerable to rising seas because water seeps up through the ground, flooding roads and outdated sewage systems.

Levine pointed to millions of dollars of new investment and development in Miami Beach as evidence that people believe in the city’s long-term viability. Some residents trying to negotiate traffic around the construction, though, were skeptical.

“Are you kidding me? Sea level rise is inevitable,” said Luis Epperson, shaking his head. “You’re going to have to lift the city on floaters or something.”

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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on July 29, 2015, 07:00:30 am
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-triple-threat-to-coastal-united-states/ar-AAdEg95

International Business Times
Avaneesh Pandey    4 hrs ago



A 'Triple Threat' To Coastal United States



Nearly 40 percent of America’s population, including those living in some of its biggest cities, is facing the threat of serious floods caused by a “triple threat” of sea-level rise, storm surge and heavy rainfall, according to a study published in the journal Nature Climate Change. The combination of these phenomena can potentially result in “compound flooding” that can devastate several low-lying, densely populated coastal areas in the country.

While several studies have, in the past, examined the correlation between sea-level rise and an increase in floodings, the latest study is the first to explore the connection between the primary and secondary effects of climate change.

“When storm surge and heavy precipitation co-occur, the potential for flooding in low-lying coastal areas is often much greater than from either in isolation,” the study warned. However, even now, “long-term sea level rise is the main driver for accelerated flooding.”

The researchers sifted through historical data of precipitation, tide levels and hurricane tracks to identify instances when heavy precipitation and storm surges occurred at the same time. This revealed a significant correlation between these factors along the Gulf of Mexico and Atlantic coasts, where compound flooding events are now happening more frequently than ever before.

In New York City, for instance, the risk of flooding from a combination of factors outlined in the study have doubled over the past 60 years, the researchers found.

“If sea levels continued to rise, this would certainly have an effect on storm surges, and storm surges have an effect on compound flooding,” Thomas Wahl, from the University of South Florida and the lead author of the study, told the Guardian.

This means that even without a drastic rise in sea levels, severe floods and storms would become more frequent, bringing the effects of climate change right into U.S. coastal cities, where nearly 40 percent of the American population resides. And, if the worst-case prediction of a sea-level rise of over 20 feet comes to fruition, the consequences are likely to be near-catastrophic.

Since records began in 1880, global temperatures have risen by 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit. And, over the last 100 years, the global average sea level has gone up by seven inches. This rise is likely to accelerate in the coming decades as Antarctica’s floating ice shelves -- which act as doorstops and hold back its glaciers and ice sheets from spreading outward into oceans -- continue to melt.



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http://ecowatch.com/2015/05/28/nasa-antarctica-ice-shelf/

Is Antarctica Ice Melting or Growing? Watch This NASA Video and See for Yourself

The Climate Reality Project | May 28, 2015 11:39 am | Comments
You might have seen the news from NASA last week: Antarctica’s Larsen B Ice Shelf could disappear before the end of the decade.

But even while the Antarctic land ice disintegrates down south, and Arctic ice contracts further up North, climate change deniers are touting the record extent of Antarctic ice and using that to claim that climate change isn’t even happening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2a3Oemo1e4

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Antarctica’s Larsen B Ice Shelf: The Final Act 
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NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory   

 

What’s really going on with the polar ice caps?

In short, there’s a difference between sea ice and land ice. Antarctica’s land ice has indeed been melting at an alarming rate.

Land ice—also called “glaciers” or “ice sheets”—is ice that has accumulated over time on land. Sea ice is frozen, floating seawater.

Overall, the Antarctic sea ice has been stable—but that fact doesn’t contradict the evidence that our climate is warming.

The ice sheet—land ice—that covers most of Antarctica is melting at the rate of about 159 billion tons every year in recent years. When land ice melts, it flows as water into the ocean, contributing to sea-level rise. Antarctica’s melting land ice poses a direct threat to the hundreds of millions of people living on islands and near coasts.

Here’s more about why this is the case—and how glaciologists know this isn’t normal—from our friends at Yale Climate Connections:

What can you do?

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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: rdunk on July 29, 2015, 09:40:23 am
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-triple-threat-to-coastal-united-states/ar-AAdEg95

International Business Times
Avaneesh Pandey    4 hrs ago

A 'Triple Threat' To Coastal United States

Nearly 40 percent of America’s population, including those living in some of its biggest cities, is facing the threat of serious floods caused by a “triple threat” of sea-level rise, storm surge and heavy rainfall, according to a study published in the journal Nature Climate Change. The combination of these phenomena can potentially result in “compound flooding” that can devastate several low-lying, densely populated coastal areas in the country.

When we see articles like this, we should be reminded that one significant fact about this Earth is......it is alive, and it does continually change in most every way, naturally. It has changed much over time, and it will continue to change much over future time. Seas/oceans will rise and fall, and deserts may begin to blossom while new deserts may form elsewhere. Geological evidence clearly shows that some land areas today were once covered by water in ages past. And, water freezing or ice melting in various places around this Earth is simply a part of the natural life of this Earth, with or without man! And all of these such Earth-life events simply work together to make this Earth be what it is to be.

One comment on all of this dissertation about the ice Arctic/Antarctic ice melt to maybe bring a little more focus to what man actually faces with this- there is a lot more "natural happenings" to consider than just what is noted here. The writer of this article notes here, "The ice sheet—land ice—that covers most of Antarctica is melting at the rate of about 159 billion tons every year in recent years". Well, how about the 75 billion tons of water from Alaskan glaciers that melt into the sea each year? http://www.cbsnews.com/news/alaska-glaciers-sending-75-billion-tons-of-water-into-sea-each-year/  And how about the estimated 40 cubic miles of water added to by sea/ocean springs each year? http://www.icr.org/article/springs-ocean/
40 cubic miles of water equates to 184 billion tons of ocean spring water water each year that is also an additional part of incoming new ocean water.

Yes, this Earth is alive, and man places himself in harms way, if he builds cities below sea level, such as New Orleans, La. and Venice Italy, or builds right at or near sea level along the worlds sea shores. Sea levels are subject to change, and that is a big reason many people who build close to the seashores build their houses upon stilts, to allow for some changes. :)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 29, 2015, 09:51:18 am
Chemtrail supporters will HATE this picture :P  Wind Turbine contrail effects

(http://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/medium_1x_/public/import/2013/images/2010/01/horns_rev.jpg)



Chemtrail deniers will HATE this picture  :P

Chemtrails over Lake Seed, Rabun County, Georgia, March 27, 2015. All photos by Thor.

So here we are, out on a beautiful spring day on Lake Seed (Rabun County, Georgia) testing a new pump on the fireboat, when the sky took on a new look.   :P

(As always, CLICK on the graphic to 'enlarge)

…here, try this for practice:


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/obamaleaf.png) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/obama_no_leaf.png)


Well, that didn't work as expected…lol…try these.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/fireboat_long_water-640.jpg) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/fireboat_long_water.jpg)

We tried to wash them dang things out of the sky...


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/fireboat_trails_long_pump_640.jpg) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/fireboat_trails_long_pump_1600.jpg)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/fireboat_rainbow_640-1.jpg) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/fireboat_rainbow_1600-1.jpg)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/fireboat_rainbow_trails_640-2.jpg) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/fireboat_rainbow_trails_1600-2.jpg)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/fireboat_rainbow_nothing-640.jpg) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/fireboat_rainbow_nothing.jpg)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/chemtrails_4-640.jpg) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/chemtrails_4-1600.jpg)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/chemtrails_8-640.jpg) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/chemtrails_8-1600.jpg)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/chemtrails_6-640.jpg) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/chemtrails_6-1600.jpg)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/chemtrails_7-640.jpg) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/chemtrails_7-1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on July 29, 2015, 12:38:28 pm
What chemicals did those chemtrails have?
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 29, 2015, 01:34:02 pm
[youtube]UdtLTyNOB0A[/youtube]

Danger In The Sky - The Chemtrail Phenomenon - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdtLTyNOB0A)


[youtube]R4CB-GXDcto[/youtube]

"What Chemtrails Are Doing IS CRIMINAL" Neurosurgeon Reveals Shocking Facts. - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4CB-GXDcto)

Published on May 28, 2015
"What Chemtrails Are Doing To Your Brain IS CRIMINAL"

- Neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock Reveals Shocking Facts.

- Dr. Blaylock explains the devastating health effects of the Chemtrails and Geoengineering Programs which have been implemented in secret without public consent.

This is a CRIMINAL ACT since PEOPLE WORLDWIDE "WILL DIE FROM THIS."

- Chemtrails are DEFINITELY a "DEPOPULATION CONSPIRACY"

"We will definitely see a drastic INCREASE in MORTALLITY especially within the weak part of the population."

- Chemtrails Exotic Weapon System Act HR_2977_page1

Links:

1) What Chemtrails Are Doing To Your Brain - Neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock Reveals Shocking Facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3lW-...

2) Wikimedia commons images - Chemtrail Clouds
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index....

3) Wikimedia commons images - Alzheimer's Brain (Human) Thumbnail image)
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fil...

4) Wikimedia commons images - Human baby by Drmies.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index….

5) Wikimedia commons images - Chemtrail morning Glory clouds
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cat...

6) Music: Youtube Audio Library
"Wishing Well" by Bird Creek
https://www.youtube.com/audiolibrary/...


Independent analysis of chemtrail fallout has identified many toxic chemicals including;

Aluminum Oxide Particles

Arsenic

Bacilli and Molds

Barium Salts

Barium Titanates

Cadmium

Calcium

Chromium

Desiccated Human Red Blood Cells

Ethylene Dibromide

Enterobacter Cloacal

Enterobacteriaceae

Human white Blood Cells-A (restrictor enzyme used in research labs to snip and combine DNA)

Lead

Mercury

Methyl Aluminum

Mold Spores

Mycoplasma

Nano-Aluminum-Coated Fiberglass

Nitrogen Trifluoride

Known as CHAFF)

Nickel

Polymer Fibers

Pseudomonas Aeruginosa

Pseudomonas Florescens

Radioactive Cesium

Radio Active Thorium

Selenium

Serratia Marcscens

Sharp Titanium Shards

Silver

Streptomyces

Stronthium

Sub-Micron Particles

(Containing Live Biological Matter)

Unidentified Bacteria

Uranium

Yellow Fungal Mycotoxins
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on July 29, 2015, 01:59:47 pm
Independent analysis of chemtrail fallout has identified many toxic chemicals including;
How can they know that that's the fallout of chemtrails, did it have a "made in chemtrail" sticker?  :P

PS: the links don't work.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 29, 2015, 08:28:47 pm
Nor did it have a 'Made in Fukushima' label.

What's your view of where this fallout originated?

TY…will check them lynx.    ;)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on July 30, 2015, 06:27:21 am


Quote
When we see articles like this, we should be reminded that one significant fact about this Earth is......it is alive, and it does continually change in most every way, naturally. It has changed much over time, and it will continue to change much over future time.

that is so true rdunk..the earth is alive and changing daily..



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/washington-sinks-into-the-sea_55b8f540e4b0a13f9d1b0d4b?

Kate Sheppard
Senior reporter/Environment and energy editor, The Huffington Post
Posted: 07/29/2015 02:16 PM EDT | Edited: 1 minutes ago

Washington Is Finally Getting What It Deserves As It Sinks Into The Sea

Mother Nature has a great sense of humor.


New research indicates that Washington, D.C., is rapidly sinking into the ocean, news that might not make the rest of the country all that sad.



The research, from the University of Vermont, the U.S. Geological Survey and several other institutions, projects the land beneath the Washington area will drop 6 or more inches in the next 100 years. That's in addition to rising sea levels due to climate change, which is melting ice sheets and causing thermal expansion of the oceans. Climate change has already caused 8 inches of sea level rise since 1880, and is expected to raise average global sea levels another 1 to 4 feet by the end of this century.

Relative sea level rise in the Chesapeake Bay region is happening faster than any other part of the Atlantic coast, according to tidal records, and twice as fast as global averages.

(http://img.huffingtonpost.com//asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/55b8f7fe1700002500565e43.jpeg)

This is because the land there has been settling since the glaciers retreated 20,000 years ago, creating what the authors describe as a "forebulge collapse." Lead author Ben DeJong, who conducted the research as a doctoral student in Vermont's Rubenstein School of Environment and Natural Resources, explains: "It’s a bit like sitting on one side of a water bed filled with very thick honey … the other side goes up. But when you stand, the bulge comes down again."

The report was published in the journal Geological Society of America Today this week.

While geologists have discussed this phenomenon for some time, the latest research analyzes sediment records in the area of the Blackwater National Wildlife Refuge, which is in Maryland's Eastern Shore about 100 miles from Washington, and determines the age of each layer. The study links that geological history to three-dimensional mapping data for the region.

Meanwhile, Congress has thus far failed to do anything to address climate change, instead spending its time trying to undo the actions the Obama administration's Environmental Protection Agency has taken to address planet-warming emissions. And the majority of candidates for the 2016 Republican nomination maintain that human activity isn't causing climate change and that people who say it is are "alarmists."


"It's ironic that the nation's capital -- the place least responsive to the dangers of climate change -- is sitting in one of the worst spots it could be in terms of this land subsidence," University of Vermont geologist Paul Bierman said in a statement accompanying the research. "Will the Congress just sit there with their feet getting ever wetter? What’s next, forebulge denial?"
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: 08rubicon on July 30, 2015, 09:42:25 am
  Of course, congres must pass a law making 'forebulge' illegal, to prevent
 the place from sinking!!
    rubicon
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on July 30, 2015, 12:57:27 pm
They can rename Washington to NEW HOLLAND :P

New Dykes in Holland... while we still use DIRT BERMS in New Orleans :P

(http://www.picturesofholland.nl/Deltaworks/DSC06690.JPG)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on July 30, 2015, 01:20:46 pm
What's your view of where this fallout originated?
Let's start from the beginning: is it fallout?
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on August 03, 2015, 10:14:54 am

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/glaciers-melting-fastest-rate_55bf7090e4b06363d5a2a494


Nick Visser
Associate Editor, The Huffington Post
Posted: 08/03/2015 12:15 PM EDT | Edited: 25 minutes ago


World's Glaciers Melting At Fastest Rate Since Record-Keeping Began

"Globally, we lose about three times the ice volume stored in the entirety of the European Alps every year."

The world's glaciers have melted to the lowest levels since record-keeping began more than 120 years ago, according to a study conducted by the World Glacier Monitoring Service that was released on Monday.

The research, published in the Journal of Glaciology, provides new evidence that climate change has spurred the rapid decline of thousands of the world's ice shelves over the past century. The first decade of the 21st century saw the fastest loss of ice since scientists began tracking it in 1894 -- and perhaps in recorded history, WGMS reported.

"Globally, we lose about three times the ice volume stored in the entirety of the European Alps every year," Michael Zemp, director of the WGMS and lead author of the study, told The Huffington Post.

On average, the world's glaciers will lose 30 inches of ice thickness this year, Zemp said. That's twice the rate lost in the 1990s, and three times the rate lost in the 1980s.

The news comes just a few months before many of the world's leaders gather in Paris for the United Nations Conference on Climate Change. The planet's leading scientists have emphasized the importance of reaching a deal, saying there is "no plan B" if the talks fail.

(http://img.huffingtonpost.com//asset/crop_0_227_5184_2429,scalefit_630_noupscale/55bf881f17000025005665c8.jpeg)
"We’re getting used to the message that glaciers are melting," Michael Zemp, director of the World Glacier Monitoring Service, said. | Credit: Joe Raedle/Getty Images


The latest news on ice melt continues a trend of worrying statistics. The planet saw the warmest year on record in 2014, and researchers observed the lowest maximum ice extent ever seen earlier this year. All of that lost ice will very likely contribute to catastrophic sea level rise, which some scientists predict could approach 10 feet in the next 50 years.

Preliminary data for the past five years suggest that the melting has continued at an alarming rate, and the "bad news is getting worse," according to Zemp. Up to 90 percent of the glaciers in the European Alps could disappear by the end of the century.

"We’re getting used to the message that glaciers are melting," Zemp said. "But we should not get too used to it."

Glaciers often provide a highly visual signifier of climate change that can be a more effective message than statistics. While it can be hard to feel a tenth of a degree in temperature change over time, the collapse of an ice sheet is hard to ignore, Zemp said.

"I always say to people, 'Go take your children and sit in front of the glacier and take a picture, then go back every year,'" he said. "It reminds you of what you could lose."

lots of links embedded in article at source..two listed below

..................


http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2015/03/2015-maximum-lowest-on-record/

On February 25, 2015, Arctic sea ice extent appeared to have reached its annual maximum extent, marking the beginning of the sea ice melt season. This year’s maximum extent not only occurred early; it is also the lowest in the satellite record. However, a late season surge in ice growth is still possible. NSIDC will post a detailed analysis of the 2014 to 2015 winter sea ice conditions in early April.

Overview of conditions

NSIDC scientists provide  Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis, with partial support from NASA.

.....................

http://www.igsoc.org/journal/

Journal of Glaciology

Issue 227 cover

The Journal of Glaciology is published six times a year and is available online to IGS members. The Society is grateful to our founder's widow, Loris Seligman, for a generous bequest that made it possible to publish back issues of the Society's journals online for the benefit of glaciologists worldwide.

The Journal of Glaciology is listed in the ISI Web of Science. The impact factor as published in July 2014 was 3.213.

It is possible to purchase articles from recent volumes online
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/igsoc/jog/

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on August 04, 2015, 02:43:59 pm


if ya can't move inland soon you better learn to swim or have a good boat handy



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-e-box/ice-melt-fast_b_7927186.html
Jason E Box
Professor in Glaciology, Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland
Posted:  08/04/2015 11:14 am EDT    Updated:  5 hours ago


Earth's Ice Is Melting Much Faster Than Forecast. Here's Why That's Worrying.


COPENHAGEN -- For me it was only after eight years of studying Greenland -- installing and maintaining a network of on-ice climate stations and examining how much snow evaporates from the island -- that I suddenly realized glaciology textbooks needed a major revision. This was 2002. Prior to the epiphany, conventional knowledge held that the ice sheet was frozen at its bed and so the reaction time of the ice sheet to climate warming was measured in tens of thousands of years. A heck of a long time.

Climate warming had just infiltrated Greenland glaciology in earnest. Summer melt water, it turned out, drains down quickly to the bed, lubricating the glacier's flow. Suddenly we realized an expanding melt season meant the ice sheet would be sliding faster, longer. It was not to be the only time our philosophy got hit with a major surprise that connected the ice sheet with climate change and the threat of abrupt sea level rise.

The next one came in 2006.

Somehow all marine-terminating glaciers across the southern half of Greenland doubled in speed simultaneously between 2000 and 2005. We didn't yet know why.

In the meantime, scientists tried defining a plausible upper limit for the contribution to sea level rise from Greenland's ice. That was at a time when surging glacier speeds -- ice flow -- was thought to be the dominant conveyer of ice loss, and would be for the foreseeable future. Well -- surprise! -- it became clear that for six years in a row, starting in 2007, ice loss from surface meltwater runoff took over the lead position in the competition for biggest loser. From 2007 to 2012, nearly each summer set higher and higher melt records, owing to persistent and unforseen weather that by 2012 would become a signature of climate change.

The competition between how much ice is lost through glacier flows into fjords versus meltwater runoff is intimately synergistic with meltwater interacting with ice flow all along the way. Increasing melt sends more water down through the ice sheet, softening the ice so it flows faster. Once at the bed the water lubricates flow. Squirting out the front of glaciers into the sea, the meltwater drives a heat exchange that undercuts glaciers, promoting calving, loss of flow resistance and faster flow. Put it this way: in Washington, D.C., to know what's happening, you follow the money; in Greenland you follow the meltwater.


“Put it this way: in Washington, D.C., to know what's happening, you follow the money; in Greenland you follow the meltwater.



Glaciologists became oceanographers when they realized, in 2008, the trigger effect for galloping glaciers was warm pulses of subtropical waters that undermine glaciers at great depth in the sea, at the grounding lines where this warm water can invade.

Indeed, ocean warming is arguably the climate change story. The planetary energy imbalance due to the enhanced greenhouse effect is loading far more heat into the oceans than the atmosphere or land. The world is 70 percent ocean-covered after all. While there were signs of a warming hiatus in air temperatures from 1998 to 2012, the ocean continued to heat up, an equivalent of four Hiroshima bombs, per second, all day, every day. The increase is continuing as we load the atmosphere with CO2.

The fundamental climate heating issue is a problem of too much of a good thing. The natural greenhouse effect -- a good thing -- keeps temperatures tolerable at night. But it has been enhanced by more than a century of people externalizing the environmental costs of stupendous economic growth, loading the atmosphere now with 42 percent more carbon dioxide, 240 percent more methane, 20 percent more nitrous oxide, 42 percent more tropospheric ozone, etc. We have far too much gaseous carbon compounds now in our atmosphere, people. The carbon pollution is, by the way, making our oceans too acidic, threatening the base of the marine food chain. Would someone step forward and deny the changing ocean chemistry? Do I digress?


“We have far too much gaseous carbon compounds now in our atmosphere, people.



The key question, as I see it, is how to project what the sea level will soon be due to ice sheet melting. But this is confounded by us not really knowing what to expect. We keep being surprised by nature being more sensitive and complex. As the science develops, we see more interconnection, where multiplying feedbacks produce surprisingly fast responses.

Will there be some saving self-regulation of human-induced climate warming and its melting land ice consequences? The enormous increase of heat in our oceans, from past decades of enhanced greenhouse effect, negates any hope that negative feedbacks or even solar output will prevent a much warmer world. The few negative feedbacks we have found for ice -- like more snow as a result of a warming climate, more reflective frost, more efficient sub-glacial water transmission -- are clearly being outdone. And at the global scale, despite some negative feedbacks like more clouds, clearly we are not seeing net cooling. Feedbacks, whether positive or negative, only do their thing after the initial effect. Negative feedbacks don't reverse the perturbation.

Seemingly the biggest issue with abrupt sea level rise comes from the now unstoppable loss of key sectors of west Antarctic ice and the discovery of more marine instability than we thought elsewhere. Like glaciers thinning rapidly in east Antarctica. Or in Greenland where improved bedrock maps reveal a marine connection an average of 40 kilometers further inland than previously thought. Or like how new fjord underwater mapping reveals greater fjord depths, increasing the odds that deep warm ocean water can communicate with more Greenland glaciers than previously thought. Surprise, surprise, surprise.


“I'd say we are in for more surprises.



If the past decade of scientific inquiry is any indication, I'd say we are in for more surprises. That notion is further supported by the fact that climate models used to project future temperatures lack key processes that likely reinforce warming or the effects of warming, not regulate it.

Despite decades of progress by many clever scientists engaged with climate modeling, climate models used to inform policymakers don't yet encode key pieces of physics that have ice melting so fast. They don't incorporate thermal collapse -- ice softening due to increasing meltwater infiltration.

Climate models also don't yet incorporate increasing forced ocean convection at the ocean fronts of glaciers that forces a heat exchange between warming water and ice at the grounding lines.

Climate models don't yet include ice algae growth that darkens the bare ice surface.

Climate models don't yet prescribe background dark bare ice from outcropping dust on Greenland from the dusty last ice age.

Climate models don't include increasing wildfire delivering more light-trapping dark particles to bright snow covered areas, yielding earlier melt onset and more intense summer melting.

As a result of some of these factors and probably some as yet unknown others, climate models have under-predicted the loss rate of snow on land by a factor of four and the loss of sea ice by a factor of two.

Climate models also don't yet sufficiently resolve extended periods of lazy north-south extended jet streams that produce the kind of sunny summers over Greenland (2007-2012 and 2015) that resulted in melting that our models didn't foresee happening until 2100.

While individual climate models come close to observations on this or that piece of the complex big picture, what ends up in global assessment reports intended to help guide policy decisions and national discussions of climate change are very conservative averages of dozens of models that don't include the latest, higher sensitivity physics.

So, alas, when it comes to ice, how fast it can go and how fast the sea will rise, if I were a betting man, I'd put my money on it going faster than forecast.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on August 15, 2015, 08:07:37 pm


YIKES   :o    ::)


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cold-and-snow-predicted-by-farmers-almanac_55cfcac1e4b0ab468d9d888e?kvcommref=mostpopular

Associated Press
Posted: 08/15/2015 07:41 PM EDT | Edited: 3 hours ago


Cold And Snow Predicted By Farmers' Almanac

Even places that normally don't see wintry weather are set for cold hit, according to the old secret formula.

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) -- Just when you thought you had gotten over last winter, be warned: The Old Farmer's Almanac predicts it will be super cold with a slew of snow for much of the country, even in places that don't usually see too much of it, like the Pacific Northwest.

If you don't want to read about those four-letter words, there's plenty more to peruse in the folksy, annual book of household tips, trends, recipes and articles, such as animal jealousy, the history of shoes and anticipation for the biggest Supermoon in decades in November 2016.

Otherwise, look for above-normal snow and below-normal temperatures for much of New England; icy conditions in parts of the South; and frigid weather in the Midwest. The snowiest periods in the Pacific Northwest will be in mid-December, early to mid-January and mid- to late February, the almanac predicts.

"Just about everybody who gets snow will have a White Christmas in one capacity or another," editor Janice Stillman said from Dublin, New Hampshire, where the almanac is compiled. It's due out in the coming week.

The almanac says there will be above normal-rainfall in the first half of the winter in California, but then that will dry up and the drought is expected to continue. "We don't expect a whole lot of relief," Stillman said.

The weather predictions are based on a secret formula that founder Robert B. Thomas designed using solar cycles, climatology and meteorology. Forecasts emphasize how much temperature and precipitation will deviate from 30-year averages compiled by government agencies.

No one's perfect, and some meteorologists generally pooh-pooh the Almanac's forecasts as too unscientific to be worth much. The almanac, which defends its accuracy for its predictions overall, says its greatest errors were in underestimating how far above normal California temperatures and Boston-area snowfall would be, although it did predict both would be above normal.

The record-breaking winter in Boston dumped more than 110 inches of snow on the city. The almanac doesn't call for as much this year.

The 224-year-old almanac, believed to be the oldest continually published periodical in North America, is 26 years older than its closest competitor, "The Farmers' Almanac," published in Maine and due out later in August.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on August 18, 2015, 09:51:34 am

http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/astronauts-in-space-have-captured-a-rare-image-of-a-giant-red-sprite/ar-BBlQmvR

An astronaut took a beautiful photo of Earth at night, below, while flying over Central America in the International Space Station.


The moon is in the upper left, and a massive thunderstorm off to the right.
But there's something weird lurking in this image, captured on August 10.
Can you spot it?

(http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBlMnAz.img?h=485&w=728&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f)
© Provided by Business InsiderNASA



Look to the right, just above the thunderstorm.
Upon closer inspection, space writer Jason Major saw a big red sprite:

(http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBlMsGv.img?h=546&w=728&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f)
© Provided by Business InsiderNASA



Below is a closer look at this oddity.

Note the tendrils (purple) rising from the thunderstorm (bright white/blue) up toward the flash of the sprite (red), sort of like an electrical puppeteer and marionette:

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Sprites are enormous.


This one, like the handful of others astronauts have captured, probably rises up 50 miles and stretches a few miles wide.

Although they are very common, sprites are rarely photographed. A thunderstorm produces a sprite once or twice a minute yet each flash lasts only a few milliseconds. They're very hard to see from the ground, too — typically because a big, fat, scary thunderstorm is in the way.

But they can be caught by Earth-based photographers. Jason Ahrns gets incredible shots of them by flying a small aircraft around thunderstorms over Nebraska and other central US states.

Here's a sprite from the side that Ahrns photographed from an airplane in 2013:

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Ahrns also managed to take high-speed videos of the fleeting phenomena.
This clip, slowed about 500 times, shows a sprite bursting into sparks:

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Here's another sprite video by Ahrns, slowed down by roughly 666 times:
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Sprites are akin to gigantic red lightning bursts.


Steve Cummer, a Duke University engineer who's studied sprites for years, summed up how they form quite nicely in a National Geographic News story I wrote a few years ago:

"They're sparks created in the upper atmosphere, well above a storm cloud, that follows lightning below the cloud," Cummer said. "The [lightning] charge creates an electric field and, when it's big enough, it drives a spark that propagates upward."

The spark turns red because of nitrogen floating high in Earth's atmosphere. Something like a fluorescent tube, the gas gets excited by the burst of electricity and emits a red glow.

Sprites aren't just a curious phenomenon. They might play an important role in shaping the the air we breathe by combining and breaking apart different types of atmospheric molecules.

Read more about Jason Ahrns' sprite photography here and here. (Thanks to science writer Corey Powell for the tip about the sprite photographed from space.)

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Post by: space otter on August 27, 2015, 08:00:06 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/global-sea-levels-climbed-3-inches-since-1992-research-shows_55df8216e4b0c818f61756ba


Reuters
Posted: 08/27/2015 06:03 PM EDT | Edited: 3 hours ago


NASA: Sea Level Rise Likely To Get Much Worse

Sea levels are rising faster than they did 50 years ago, and it's only going to get worse

Sea levels worldwide rose an average of nearly 3 inches (8 cm) since 1992, the result of warming waters and melting ice, a panel of NASA scientists said on Wednesday.

In 2013, a United Nations panel predicted sea levels would rise from 1 to 3 feet (0.3 to 0.9 meters) by the end of the century. The new research shows that sea level rise most likely will be at the high end of that range, said University of Colorado geophysicist Steve Nerem.

Sea levels are rising faster than they did 50 years ago and “it’s very likely to get worse in the future,” Nerem said.

The changes are not uniform. Some areas showed sea levels rising more than 9 inches (25 cm) and other regions, such as along the U.S. West Coast, actually falling, according to an analysis of 23 years of satellite data.

Scientists believe ocean currents and natural cycles are temporarily offsetting a sea level rise in the Pacific and the U.S. West Coast could see a significant hike in sea levels in the next 20 years.

“People need to understand that the planet is not only changing, it’s changed,” NASA scientist Tom Wagner told reporters on a conference call.

“If you’re going to put in major infrastructure like a water treatment plant or a power plant in a coastal zone ... we have data you can now use to estimate what the impacts are going to be in the next 100 years,” Wagner said.

Low-lying regions, such as Florida, are especially vulnerable, added Michael Freilich, director of NASA's Earth Science Division.

”Even today, normal spring high tides cause street flooding in sections of Miami, something that didn’t happen regularly just a few decades ago,” Feilich said

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This Sept. 21, 2009 photo shows people on motorbikes wading through floodwaters caused by heavy rainfall in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam. Sea levels rising because of global warming, along with increased storminess as the climate changes, will expose tens of millions of people in the world's port cities to coastal flooding, says a report by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

More than 150 million people, mostly in Asia, live within 3 feet (1 meter) of the sea, he added.

The biggest uncertainty in forecasting sea level rise is determining how quickly the polar ice sheets will melt in response to warming temperatures.

“Significant changes are taking place today on ice sheets,” said Eric Rignot, a glaciologist at the University of California in Irvine. “It would take centuries to reverse the trend of ice retreat.”

Scientists said about one-third of the rise in sea levels is due to the expansion of warmer ocean water, one-third to ice loss from the polar ice sheets and the remaining third to melting mountain glaciers.

(Reporting by Irene Klotz; Editing by David Adams and Cynthia Osterman)

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on August 28, 2015, 08:29:55 am


Pennsylvania warming to bring 'profound' changes, Penn State report says

By Donald Gilliland    
 Thursday, Aug. 27, 2015, 5:54 p.m.
 Updated 12 hours ago

 

 
By mid-century, Pittsburgh might feel a lot more like the heat and humidity of summer in the nation's capital.

Average temperatures in Pennsylvania likely will rise 5.4 degrees Fahrenheit in the next 35 years, causing “profound” changes in the composition of the state's forests and more frequent and severe flooding and heat waves, according to Penn State University scientists studying potential impacts of climate change.

“There will be increased heat-related stresses, especially in cities,” said Dr. James Shortle, lead author of the report. He cautioned that “older people and lower-income populations will be especially susceptible.”

The  2015 Climate Impacts Assessment  is the second update to a report published by the Department of Environmental Protection in 2009 at the direction of the state Legislature. The 200-page assessment contains chapters by different scientists examining aspects of climate science and the likely effects on Pennsylvania. Shortle said it should be viewed as an addition to, rather than a replacement of, earlier reports.

“The findings are stark,” said DEP Secretary John Quigley. “I personally find this report profoundly disturbing.”

It predicts worsening air quality, with an increase in pollen and mold concentrations and ground-level ozone, which can lead to respiratory ailments and heart disease. Severe storms and flooding likely will increase.

The state's agriculture, forest products, recreation and energy industries would be affected, the scientists said.

Traditional tree species important to the forest economy, such as black cherry and sugar maple, would struggle to survive, but species such as loblolly pine, common persimmon and post oak would thrive, according to the scientists.

That transition “could be very, very messy,” said Shortle, who noted the last such change occurred when 19th-century logging decimated pine forests.

“Climate change is upon us,” said Pittsburgh Mayor Bill Peduto, “with real impacts on not only weather but public safety, housing, business and other facets of city life.”

That's why Pittsburgh joined the 100 Resilient Cities network and named a “chief resilience officer” this summer, Peduto said. He joined the Local Climate Leaders Circle, which will “push for climate plans on the local level during the United Nations climate talks in Paris” in December, he said.

The Penn State report presented the science; policy arguments can come later, said John Hanger, Gov. Tom Wolf's secretary of policy and planning.

The report predicts excessive heat-related deaths in Pittsburgh nearly to double, rising to 45 each year by 2050.

That would depend on how people adapt and respond — whether they adopt air conditioning and check on their neighbors, said Dr. Karen Hacker, director of the Allegheny County Health Department. Heat waves impact the elderly the most, she said, and “communities where the elderly do the best are where there are a lot of people checking on them.”

Hacker said health officials are preparing for increases in insect-borne diseases, heat-related health issues, and a rise in allergies.

“There has already been an increase in many of the plants that cause allergies,” said Hacker, and longer growing seasons could make it worse.

The combination of warmer and wetter weather could encourage the spread of West Nile Virus and Lyme disease, she said.

“We're not going to stop this from happening, so we're focused on being prepared,” Hacker said.

The  full report  is available on the  DEP website  (link to pda  on article page); the state will accept public comment on the report through Nov. 4.

Donald Gilliland is a Trib Total Media assistant metro editor. He can be reached at dgilliland@tribweb.com.


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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on August 29, 2015, 08:44:51 am


what are they going to do when they see all these rules hardly make a dent in the changes the earth is going thur?...the planet is in constant  change/evoling...humans aren't to blame even though they are the only creature to fowl their own nests..stupid humans..





http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/california-climate-bills_55e0de88e4b0b7a96339265a

Kate Sheppard
Senior reporter/Environment and energy editor, The Huffington Post
Posted: 08/28/2015 08:17 PM EDT



California Climate Bills Could Set A High Bar For The Rest Of The Country
The state would be set up to reduce emissions 80 percent by 2050.

As states prepare to develop plans for meeting new greenhouse gas standards from the Environmental Protection Agency, they might look to California as an example of what's possible.

Right now, the California legislature is considering two bills, SB 32 and 350, which would allow the state to meet interim climate goals that Gov. Jerry Brown (D) established through an executive order in April. Brown's order calls for reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 40 percent below 1990 levels by 2030, a stopping point along the path to reaching an 80 percent cut by 2050 -- a goal scientists have said is necessary to preventing the worst impacts of climate change.

The state is already on pace to bring emissions down to 1990 levels by 2020, a goal established in the landmark state law known as the California Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006. The latest bills would set the state up for long-term reductions and establish specific energy goals to make that possible.

SB 32, from state Sen. Fran Pavley (D), would inscribe the 2030 and 2050 targets in state law. SB 350, from Senate President pro Tempore Kevin de León (D) and Sen. Mark Leno (D), would increase the amount of energy the state is required to draw from renewables 50 percent, reduce petroleum use 50 percent, and improve the energy efficiency of buildings 50 percent, all by the year 2030. The bills have both passed in the state Senate, and the assembly is expected to debate the bills in the next few weeks.

Lawmakers said the bills will allow the legislature to shape the state's goals. "The governor is moving forward with or without us," Pavley said Tuesday in a press conference. "I want the legislature to engage in this process."

They're also pointing to the success the state has had in meeting the goals laid out in their 2006 bill. "Ten years ago we didn't know if all of this was possible," Pavley said. "We know today that we can do this, and that we have a moral imperative to do this."

Advocates cited the advances the state has made since the 2006 law was passed: It claims 430,000 jobs in the advance energy field, has more than 100,000 electric vehicles on the road and is on pace to hit 25 percent renewable energy by the end of 2016. All as the state's economy has continued to grow.

"Skeptics have said that our clean air policies would destroy the economy, that we set unrealistic targets," de León said at the presser, where he was joined by leaders from a number of California businesses that support the bills. "And yet here we are today, well on the way to meeting those targets with an economy that is stronger than ever, that is the envy of other states."

That's not to say the bills aren't meeting opposition, particularly from the oil industry, which is not a fan of the goal of cutting petroleum use in half.

"California’s petroleum industry is proud to produce the world’s cleanest gasoline and diesel," Western States Petroleum Association President Catherine Reheis-Boyd said in a statement. "Ultimately, Californians will be best served by inclusive public policy that protects our environment and supports a thriving economy."

Utilities in the state have been more supportive, but may seek some changes in the Assembly bill, according to the Los Angeles Times.

For environmental groups, passing these two bills into law will ensure some permanence for climate policy. "A new governor can dispose of [Brown's executive order] as he or she sees fit," said David Pettit, director of the southern California air program at the Natural Resources Defense Council. "It's a different story if you see it in legislation. It puts this in concrete, so to speak."


The bills again set California up to be a leader on climate policy nationally, particularly when it comes to setting interim targets.


"Having a long-term goal is usually based on what the science says is necessary, while setting a medium-term goal combines looking at where you need to be in 2050 with some analysis of how you get there over the next decade or two," said Gabriel Pacyniak, the climate change mitigation program manager at the Georgetown Climate Center. "It's really combining both -- a 'where we need to go' approach and a 'how do we get there' approach."

Clean air policy is also an area where California has led historically -- "purely out of necessity," said Larry Gerston, professor emeritus of political science at San Jose State University. The state's large population and pollution-trapping topography have long create air quality concerns; the five worst cities for air pollution in the U.S. are all in California.

"There are a lot of instances where we've really screwed up, especially on agriculture and the way we abuse water," Gerston said. "But when it comes to energy and environment, we're way ahead of everybody."

Advocates are hopeful that, as it did with the 2006 law, California can once again be a model for other states.

"I think the biggest lesson conceptually is that you can have a robust greenhouse gas reduction program and grow the economy at the same time," Pettit said. "That happened here. I don't see any reason it can't happen in every other state."


MORE: Climate Change, Climate Bill, greenhouse gas


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Post by: space otter on August 31, 2015, 10:48:54 am



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http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/with-obama-to-visit-nearby-alaskan-villagers-struggle-as-their-island-disappears/ar-AAdL14e

Los Angeles Times
Maria L. La Ganga
18 hrs ago


With Obama to visit nearby, Alaskan villagers struggle as their island disappears

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Millie Hawley, Kivalina tribal president, in front of the sea wall the village hopes can protect it from the Chukchi Sea until plans are made to relocate. (Maria LaGanga/Los Angeles Times/TNS)



KIVALINA, Alaska — This is what climate change looks like.

In this town of 403 residents 83 miles above the Arctic Circle, beaches are disappearing, ice is melting, temperatures are rising, and the barrier reef Kivalina calls home gets smaller and smaller with every storm.

There is no space left to build homes for the living. The dead are now flown to the mainland so the ocean won't encroach upon their graves. Most here agree that the town should be relocated; where, when and who will pay for it are the big questions. The Army Corps of Engineers figures Kivalina will be underwater in the next decade or so.

Because the town's days on the edge of the Chukchi Sea are numbered, no money has been invested to improve residents' lives. Eighty percent of the homes do not have toilets. Most rely on homemade honey buckets — a receptacle lined with a garbage bag topped by a toilet seat.

Residents haul water from tanks in the middle of town, 25 cents for five gallons. The school is overcrowded. Still, the unpaved streets here ring with the laughter of children, the buzz of all-terrain vehicles, the whoosh of the wind.

This summer, White House advance staff cased the slender, apostrophe-shaped island to see whether President Barack Obama could get here during his visit to the Arctic this week — the first by a sitting White House occupant. At the very least, he is scheduled to visit Kotzebue, less than 100 miles away, the heart of Alaska's Northwest Arctic Borough.

Obama has high hopes for addressing climate change during his remaining time in office. The Alaska trip is part of a global warming tour. In Washington he will talk environmental issues with Pope Francis in late September, and in Paris he will attend the United Nations Climate Change Conference in November.

The Alaska trip is part of an effort to "speak openly, honestly and frequently about how climate change is already affecting the lives of Americans and the strength and health of our economy," senior White House adviser Brian Deese said.

Alaskans, Obama said Saturday in his weekly address, are already living with climate change's effects: "More frequent and extensive wildfires. Bigger storm surges as sea ice melts faster. Some of the swiftest shoreline erosion in the world — in some places, more than 3 feet a year.

"Alaska's glaciers are melting faster too," he said, "threatening tourism and adding to rising seas. And if we do nothing, Alaskan temperatures are projected to rise between six and 12 degrees by the end of the century, changing all sorts of industries forever."

Although Obama views this state as the U.S. poster child for climate change, some Alaskans beg to differ. They are glad the president agreed to allow limited offshore oil exploration. They want more access to the vast state's natural resources. And they are wary of a leader who views their home as a global warming disaster area.

Gov. Bill Walker, who will meet with Obama during his visit to the Last Frontier, said he wants the president to support a natural gas pipeline and allow drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

But most of all, the independent governor said in a news conference Tuesday, he doesn't want the Lower 48 to achieve its environmental goals on the backs of Alaskans by barring access to natural resources.

"We probably have the smallest footprint per capita in the nation, if not the world, on impacting climate change," Walker said. "We have some impacts, there's no question, but ... I'm going to talk a lot about the economic climate change that we're experiencing today. That's really what my focus is going to be on with the president."

Shelby Adams has a different message for Obama. That is, if she gets to talk to him when he travels more than 3,600 miles from the Beltway to see the Arctic with his own eyes. Shelby, who just turned 13, has lived in Kivalina her entire life, and she loves her island home dearly.

"It's where I grew up, where everybody I know is," she said five days before Obama was scheduled to land in Kotzebue. "We need to relocate because the ocean is slowly eating away our island."

Shelby was in fourth grade when much of Kivalina was forced to evacuate during a fierce storm in 2011. She and her family were on one of the few planes that made it to the mainland before flying conditions became too dangerous. Everyone else sheltered in the school, the highest point on the nearly flat island.

"We had people sleeping in all the classrooms and the gym," said Emma Knowles, who was Shelby's teacher at McQueen School that year. "Someone had gotten a caribou the day before, so we made a huge pot of caribou stew ... The school didn't even budge. As dilapidated as it looks, it survived."

Kivalina is no stranger to harsh weather, and erosion worries have dogged the 27-acre town almost since its inception in 1905. In the 21st century, however, warming temperatures and the perilous changes that cascade from them have stripped the island of its major source of protection: ice.

Normally each fall, ice begins hugging the Kivalina shoreline around the end of October and stays until the end of June. Even during fierce storms, ice keeps the raging ocean away. But climate change has caused the ice to appear later and melt earlier, leaving the barrier island more vulnerable to storm surges.

Thinner ice also makes it harder for the Inupiat to go whaling. Normally, crews will build camps at the edge of the so-called shore-fast ice and hunt bowhead and beluga whales as they swim north in spring.

"If the shore-fast ice is thin and weak, it's not safe to make a camp," said Timothy Schuerch, president of the Maniilaq Association, a tribally operated health services organization with clinics in Kivalina and the other borough villages. "Whaling crews have drifted out to sea."

The Inupiat who live in Kivalina get most of their food from the land and sea around them. The increasingly warm weather means an abundance of   cloudberries and low-bush blackberries, said Millie Hawley, Kivalina tribal president, but it also threatens many of the food staples on which Alaska natives here depend.

"With the caribou, usually it's like clockwork," Hawley said. "Every June, we'd hunt. We haven't done that in years. It's unpredictable. We don't know when we'll see them."

Kivalina residents hang the caribou's hindquarters outside of their homes to age. The frozen meat is eaten raw, dipped in seal oil, which is also harvested in June. Trout is eaten the same way. The Inupiat also depend on seal for meat.

"Usually we get 80 to 100 seals for the whole community," Hawley said. "This year, we were looking to get eight. The community now has to go without dried meat and oil."

When their traditional foods become scarce, island residents must depend on the Kivalina Native Store, the only one in town. Kivalina is closer to Russia than it is to Anchorage, and nearly all supplies are shipped here by air. Which accounts for astronomical prices:

A quart of shelf-stable whole milk runs $4.19. A can of Campbell's tomato soup is $2.95. A 5-pound bag of unbleached, all-purpose flour is $8.75. A 25.5-ounce bottle of Bertolli extra virgin olive oil is $23.79.

The store is Kivalina's pride and joy, the newest building in this wind-battered town. The old store burned down in December. Its replacement opened in July. It is big, clean, warm and well-stocked. And it stands out in a town of peeling paint and crowded, threatened structures, most on short stilts to protect from flooding.

The school, attended by 154 students from pre-kindergarten through high school, is so jammed that every available space is used for storage. Hallways, stairwells and classrooms are lined with books and supplies. A working washing machine stands at the end of one hall.

The main drags, Bering and Channel streets, are unpaved, their gravel surfaces deeply rutted from the rain and the ATVs that residents use to get around in summer.

Small houses crowd together; each is home to extended families, some of up to 17 or so. At least two houses, Hawley said, are in imminent danger of tumbling into the water. The cemetery lines Kivalina's slender runway, its crosses visible on takeoff and landing.

Because of erosion, there is almost no room to build, Hawley said, so "we break every state and federal regulation. The airport is supposed to be a mile or a mile and a half from the dump. It's 500 feet away."

The fuel tanks that run the power plant were in danger of falling into the Chukchi Sea, so the town moved them to higher, safer ground. Fifty feet away is a small cluster of housing for teachers, which cozies up right next to the school.

When Hawley is asked why her people don't move — somewhere, anywhere to be safe — she is polite but firm. The land and the water make the Inupiat who they are.

If they moved to Kotzebue, they would be visitors.

Moving to Anchorage or Fairbanks, she said, "would be like asking us not to be a people anymore."

So what does she want to tell the leader of the free world when she greets him next week — in Kotzebue, if not Kivalina?

"We are American citizens," she said, fast and fierce. "We have as much right as all of America to have access to the resources Washington provides. ... If you are going to provide millions of dollars to stop hunger in Africa, my people are hungry. Stop hunger here."

———

(Times staff writer Michael A. Memoli contributed to this report.)

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 04, 2015, 12:43:13 pm
Another good one from friend Michael:    :)


[youtube]IMJY6SwDOM4[/youtube]

9/01/2015 -- Global Earthquake Forecast -- United States + International unrest growing - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMJY6SwDOM4)

Published on Sep 1, 2015
After multiple M-class flares, and an Earth facing coronal hole -- we now see a flurry of new activity develop at a deep (and shallow) level across multiple regions stemming from the West Pacific across to adjacent plates.

The movement which has now struck in the Pacific Northwest, striking Central Washington State (instead of the offshore Juan Defuca zone as we were looking for) has hit the reset button for the United States / North American Craton.

Now we can expect a spreading out of new activity in the Southernmost portion of North America... mainly in Southern California, and along the Southern edge of the carton.

Renewed M4.0 activity should be expected to strike the Southern edge of the craton, including Colorado, Texas, and Oklahoma. All three areas should be struck by noteworthy movement near M4.0 due to the M4.3 along the Northwest edge of the craton (in Washington state) causing new pressure to be placed on the craton edge...

The pressure coming from the NW (Pacific NW) will cause new mid-M3.0 earthquakes in California / Nevada at the dormant volcanoes, and possible M3.0 activity in the far Northeast United States (again) reaching into New Brunswick / SE Quebec (again) over the next 7 days.

Japan, as shown in the video, is an area of particular concern due to the multiple M5.0 earthquakes striking in succession of one another across the entire region. Topping out with a M6.0 earthquake before I could even get this video fully processed.

Japan should show larger movement over the next 7 days, larger than the M6.0 which just struck a few hours ago (September 1 2015)....... we need to watch particularly near the area shown in the video (Central Japan along the Izu trench).

Papua New Guinea, hopefully we'll only see a mid-M6.0 strike on land or near land in the next 7 days…  Watch the area further WEST from Papua New Guinea .. Sumatra Indonesia for the larger movement to the South this week.

Sumatra Indonesia is the silent spot which is clearly building into a larger event... ??All the way South of New Zealand, be on watch for a moderate upper M5.0 to lower M6.0 to strike out to sea in the area shown in the video.

Mainly 4 small areas to watch in the West Pacific over the next 7 days. Coast of Japan at the Izu trench junction, Sumatra Indonesia near the India coast, Papua New Guinea near land, and South of New Zealand out to sea.

In the EAST Pacific... watch Southern California, and the North American Craton edge for noteworthy movement.

Central America.. watch near Panama / El Salvador for possible M6.0 activity (lower M6.0) over the next 7 days.

South America.. Coast of Peru into Bolivia .. watch near the coastline for possible lower M6.0 activity over the next 7 days.

Chile.. watch for a possible new blast at Villarica volcano or nearby the past eruption location from a few months ago. It has been quiet (volcanic eruption wise) in Chile over the past 2 months.. possible new eruptive activity will be reported in the next week if this forecast holds true.

In Europe, watch England! Upper M3.0 to lower M4.0 activity should strike the area based upon the movement in South Europe (North Italy struck by a M4.0 causing pressure to be placed on North Europe).

The Italy M4.0 should cause an additional similar earthquake to the North.. Possibly the North Sea into South UK... don't rule out the English Channel coast of France as the release point, but I'm leaning towards the North sea due to the location of the Italy M4.0 event.

Asia, now keep watch for possible upper M5.0 to lower M6.0 activity to strike near Nepal, possibly a few hundred miles NORTH of Nepal due to the location of the deep movement in the Pacific striking further North near Kamchatka Russia.

Thus, watch Nepal for a magnitude HIGHER than the deep Kamchatka events, which were upper M4.0 at a deep level... which means upper M5.0 to lower M6.0 would be coming in the area WEST of the deep movement along the Himalayan mountains going into Nepal / China / Russia - Siberia border regions.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on September 04, 2015, 12:58:14 pm
Is there a time-frame for that "forecast"?
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 04, 2015, 01:04:23 pm
Ask Dutch…not my video.   ;)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on September 04, 2015, 01:32:41 pm
Looking at all that text again (I didn't read it all, I'm too tired for that) I see several references to "the next 7 days", so I suppose that's it. :)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 04, 2015, 03:12:34 pm
Michael's record of successful prognostications continues to improve.    8)

Quote
(from post 1 September 2015)
Sumatra Indonesia is the silent spot which is clearly building into a larger event…

All the way South of New Zealand, be on watch for a moderate upper M5.0 to lower M6.0 to strike out to sea in the area shown in the video.

Mainly 4 small areas to watch in the West Pacific over the next 7 days. Coast of Japan at the Izu trench junction, Sumatra Indonesia near the India coast, Papua New Guinea near land, and South of New Zealand out to sea.

One might guess that this falls within the '7-day window.'   :P

6:00PM EST 4 September 2015
Dutchsinse
1 hr
Java / Sumatra Indonesia struck by M5.5 earthquake.
http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/earthquake.php?id=457701

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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on September 04, 2015, 04:28:25 pm
Michael's record of successful prognostications continues to improve.    8)
As I said before, I didn't read it all, but now, looking at that snippet, it looks like statistic probabilities. Indonesia had 43 earthquakes with a magnitude of 4.5 of higher in the last 30 days.

I will wait for something less common. :)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on September 04, 2015, 05:21:03 pm
Michael's record of successful prognostications continues to improve.    8)
One might guess that this falls within the '7-day window.'   :P

I PREDICT!!!

"There will be at LEAST 2 5.0 earthquakes tomorrow...!

 :o

 ::)

Foot note: It doesn't matter which day you read this :P

15-AUG-2015 07:47:06   -10.90   163.88   6.6   6   SOLOMON ISLANDS     5155608
10-AUG-2015 04:12:14   -9.35   158.06   6.6   15   SOLOMON ISLANDS     5155099
12-AUG-2015 18:49:23   -9.32   157.93   6.4   5   SOLOMON ISLANDS     5155310
01-SEP-2015 15:25:09   31.17   141.60   6.0   7   SOUTH OF HONSHU, JAPAN     5157285
06-AUG-2015 23:59:46   -26.46   -178.25   6.0   269   SOUTH OF FIJI ISLANDS     5154850
02-SEP-2015 01:18:30   4.36   124.72   5.9   310   CELEBES SEA     5157372
10-AUG-2015 04:24:31   -9.30   157.95   5.9   10   SOLOMON ISLANDS     5155100
09-AUG-2015 04:46:20   -27.45   -176.24   5.8   10   KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION     5155020
07-AUG-2015 01:25:02   -2.15   28.89   5.8   11   LAKE TANGANYIKA REGION     5154857
26-AUG-2015 13:51:35   -57.47   -25.91   5.7   32   SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS REGION     5156658
24-AUG-2015 09:41:26   -30.88   -178.32   5.7   221   KERMADEC ISLANDS, NEW ZEALAND     5156450
20-AUG-2015 11:00:10   0.51   126.62   5.7   50   NORTHERN MOLUCCA SEA     5156068
17-AUG-2015 14:42:31   21.93   146.64   5.7   3   MARIANA ISLANDS REGION     5155769
10-AUG-2015 10:05:25   36.52   71.20   5.7   224   AFGHANISTAN-TAJIKISTAN BORD REG.     5155110
03-SEP-2015 13:23:59   2.08   126.71   5.6   44   NORTHERN MOLUCCA SEA     5157572
01-SEP-2015 15:24:08   31.29   141.69   5.6   10   SOUTH OF HONSHU, JAPAN     5157276
17-AUG-2015 16:16:59   13.70   51.80   5.6   10   EASTERN GULF OF ADEN     5155773
14-AUG-2015 13:28:00   -27.32   -176.04   5.6   13   KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION     5155543
13-AUG-2015 14:04:58   -3.94   152.91   5.6   137   NEW IRELAND REGION, P.N.G.     5155434
10-AUG-2015 07:43:38   -19.62   -174.81   5.6   57   TONGA ISLANDS     5155107
04-SEP-2015 20:08:30   -7.98   107.24   5.5   34   JAWA, INDONESIA     5157746
04-SEP-2015 04:49:21   29.25   130.55   5.5   10   RYUKYU ISLANDS     5157665
29-AUG-2015 03:53:23   19.15   145.66   5.5   124   MARIANA ISLANDS     5156917
23-AUG-2015 23:10:03   -29.67   -71.43   5.5   34   NEAR COAST OF CENTRAL CHILE     5156415
20-AUG-2015 13:29:09   -8.13   149.54   5.5   52   EASTERN NEW GUINEA REG., P.N.G.     5156094
14-AUG-2015 22:03:34   -6.98   131.50   5.5   53   TANIMBAR ISLANDS REG., INDONESIA     5155570
14-AUG-2015 18:03:04   21.11   -45.85   5.5   19   NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RIDGE     5155555
13-AUG-2015 10:39:53   -37.03   78.06   5.5   10   MID-INDIAN RIDGE     5155413
12-AUG-2015 00:14:40   -31.70   -71.62   5.5   30   NEAR COAST OF CENTRAL CHILE     5155242
07-AUG-2015 01:28:37   -2.09   28.95   5.5   10   LAKE TANGANYIKA REGION     5154861
04-SEP-2015 04:49:38   40.93   47.51   5.4   14   EASTERN CAUCASUS     5157666
03-SEP-2015 16:51:47   37.21   143.51   5.4   10   OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN     5157588
01-SEP-2015 17:04:15   15.40   -92.65   5.4   111   MEXICO-GUATEMALA BORDER REGION     5157295
01-SEP-2015 15:28:49   -19.68   -69.06   5.4   84   NORTHERN CHILE     5157277
15-AUG-2015 20:16:23   51.76   -175.26   5.4   45   ANDREANOF ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN IS.     5155646
13-AUG-2015 14:07:59   23.96   122.50   5.4   16   TAIWAN REGION     5155436
11-AUG-2015 13:35:49   -27.11   -176.23   5.4   10   KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION     5155193
10-AUG-2015 23:53:10   -5.55   151.82   5.4   8   NEW BRITAIN REGION, P.N.G.     5155149
28-AUG-2015 15:30:59   23.19   142.51   5.3   115   VOLCANO ISLANDS REGION     5156882
27-AUG-2015 19:10:11   45.35   147.20   5.3   132   KURIL ISLANDS     5156794
25-AUG-2015 22:51:36   32.04   131.79   5.3   32   KYUSHU, JAPAN     5156590
16-AUG-2015 21:05:12   -5.77   154.01   5.3   68   SOLOMON ISLANDS     5155729
13-AUG-2015 15:58:31   -32.89   -178.35   5.3   9   SOUTH OF KERMADEC ISLANDS     5155553
13-AUG-2015 15:58:24   -32.89   -177.36   5.3   2   SOUTH OF KERMADEC ISLANDS     5155443
12-AUG-2015 18:19:16   -9.28   157.91   5.3   10   SOLOMON ISLANDS     5155309
07-AUG-2015 18:21:02   -16.77   177.29   5.3   18   FIJI ISLANDS     5154909
07-AUG-2015 14:22:14   -18.07   -174.16   5.3   26   TONGA ISLANDS     5154893
07-AUG-2015 12:18:49   1.08   -85.20   5.3   10   OFF COAST OF ECUADOR     5154885
07-AUG-2015 05:53:57   24.15   -108.56   5.3   10   GULF OF CALIFORNIA     5154868
07-AUG-2015 04:34:59   23.88   -108.94   5.3   10   GULF OF CALIFORNIA     5154865
06-AUG-2015 05:05:49   -9.78   115.94   5.3   35   SOUTH OF BALI, INDONESIA     5154755
27-AUG-2015 15:06:25   -19.69   -176.47   5.2   10   FIJI ISLANDS REGION     5156789
26-AUG-2015 21:56:37   27.02   -44.39   5.2   10   NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RIDGE     5156701
23-AUG-2015 04:48:49   13.13   -90.23   5.2   49   NEAR COAST OF GUATEMALA     5156336
22-AUG-2015 06:25:38   14.71   147.02   5.2   35   MARIANA ISLANDS REGION     5156267
21-AUG-2015 18:45:40   -22.43   -178.17   5.2   373   SOUTH OF FIJI ISLANDS     5156218
17-AUG-2015 00:45:42   27.14   143.68   5.2   7   BONIN ISLANDS REGION     5155738
15-AUG-2015 17:29:20   -26.98   -176.28   5.2   7   SOUTH OF FIJI ISLANDS     5155641
14-AUG-2015 14:09:17   -26.02   -177.03   5.2   100   SOUTH OF FIJI ISLANDS     5155546
14-AUG-2015 13:43:17   -27.11   -176.14   5.2   43   KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION     5155544
14-AUG-2015 04:43:44   42.64   143.18   5.2   87   HOKKAIDO, JAPAN REGION     5155511
13-AUG-2015 11:28:15   -36.82   78.34   5.2   10   MID-INDIAN RIDGE     5155423
12-AUG-2015 12:50:43   -16.52   -177.25   5.2   403   FIJI ISLANDS REGION     5155283
10-AUG-2015 19:19:33   -27.15   -176.24   5.2   10   KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION     5155133
10-AUG-2015 09:40:09   -29.49   -71.20   5.2   40   NEAR COAST OF CENTRAL CHILE     5155109
08-AUG-2015 04:13:41   -6.68   152.08   5.2   42   NEW BRITAIN REGION, P.N.G.     5154947
07-AUG-2015 06:52:19   24.02   -108.89   5.2   10   GULF OF CALIFORNIA     5154870
06-AUG-2015 10:08:55   1.03   98.93   5.2   78   NORTHERN SUMATERA, INDONESIA     5154776
06-AUG-2015 09:22:28   36.50   140.59   5.2   44   NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN     5154773
03-SEP-2015 07:32:46   -15.48   -174.67   5.1   221   TONGA ISLANDS     5157546
01-SEP-2015 16:08:26   -29.68   178.69   5.1   566   KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION     5157278
01-SEP-2015 08:57:25   -19.35   167.59   5.1   31   VANUATU ISLANDS REGION     5157244
30-AUG-2015 05:30:59   29.68   130.43   5.1   45   RYUKYU ISLANDS     5157009
29-AUG-2015 20:02:27   -10.79   116.40   5.1   46   SOUTH OF SUMBAWA, INDONESIA     5156974
27-AUG-2015 10:50:57   26.92   -44.25   5.1   10   NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RIDGE     5156764
25-AUG-2015 03:29:35   4.99   93.31   5.1   32   OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATERA     5156528
19-AUG-2015 22:15:47   -9.67   28.61   5.1   15   ZAIRE     5156012
18-AUG-2015 11:53:29   -56.14   -26.49   5.1   35   SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS REGION     5155858
17-AUG-2015 11:40:34   30.81   131.03   5.1   10   KYUSHU, JAPAN     5155757
14-AUG-2015 22:04:25   -26.33   -177.81   5.1   174   SOUTH OF FIJI ISLANDS     5155571
11-AUG-2015 15:53:08   -7.13   129.19   5.1   143   BANDA SEA     5155198
09-AUG-2015 18:20:48   52.25   -168.72   5.1   35   FOX ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN ISLANDS     5155061
09-AUG-2015 17:51:34   -10.29   165.01   5.1   24   SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS     5155058
09-AUG-2015 02:39:55   -13.97   -14.47   5.1   10   SOUTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RIDGE     5155013
07-AUG-2015 17:39:27   -56.42   -25.92   5.1   3   SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS REGION     5154911
07-AUG-2015 13:48:35   1.07   -85.33   5.1   31   OFF COAST OF ECUADOR     5154891
06-AUG-2015 13:10:27   -53.49   23.72   5.1   10   SOUTH OF AFRICA     5154817
02-SEP-2015 07:20:30   14.04   53.75   5.0   10   OWEN FRACTURE ZONE REGION     5157407
01-SEP-2015 23:06:28   -19.27   167.63   5.0   26   VANUATU ISLANDS REGION     5157353
01-SEP-2015 13:24:45   23.90   121.52   5.0   21   TAIWAN     5157260
28-AUG-2015 15:08:31   52.13   156.78   5.0   176   KAMCHATKA     5156881
28-AUG-2015 04:11:52   -15.84   -71.83   5.0   16   SOUTHERN PERU     5156824
26-AUG-2015 05:58:53   -0.81   -16.02   5.0   10   NORTH OF ASCENSION ISLAND     5156623
24-AUG-2015 11:51:01   56.18   164.30   5.0   32   KOMANDORSKY ISLANDS REGION     5156453
23-AUG-2015 09:02:09   27.85   86.06   5.0   35   NEPAL     5156350
22-AUG-2015 05:28:14   21.51   143.10   5.0   317   MARIANA ISLANDS REGION     5156262
18-AUG-2015 20:48:23   -7.38   128.57   5.0   162   BANDA SEA     5155903
16-AUG-2015 08:49:03   -62.38   -159.43   5.0   10   PACIFIC-ANTARCTIC RIDGE     5155693
15-AUG-2015 08:19:33   -3.71   101.81   5.0   58   SOUTHERN SUMATERA, INDONESIA     5155617
14-AUG-2015 10:11:05   21.14   -45.80   5.0   10   NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RIDGE     5155528
13-AUG-2015 20:13:34   37.19   141.43   5.0   43   NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN     5155466
13-AUG-2015 19:30:15   14.12   -91.37   5.0   65   GUATEMALA     5155461
10-AUG-2015 04:23:26   -9.39   158.06   5.0   10   SOLOMON ISLANDS     5156821
10-AUG-2015 03:27:31   -9.33   158.48   5.0   10   SOLOMON ISLANDS     5155097
09-AUG-2015 15:27:36   -48.26   -9.90   5.0   13   SOUTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RIDGE     5155049
09-AUG-2015 08:36:13   5.20   -82.63   5.0   10   SOUTH OF PANAMA     5155035
09-AUG-2015 04:49:50   13.48   120.51   5.0   91   MINDORO, PHILIPPINE ISLANDS     5155021
08-AUG-2015 21:15:32   -13.91   -14.47   5.0   10   SOUTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RIDGE     5155009
08-AUG-2015 19:09:34   52.44   -169.62   5.0   41   FOX ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN ISLANDS     5155004
07-AUG-2015 18:25:20   -16.42   -173.07   5.0   10   TONGA ISLANDS     5154908
06-AUG-2015 21:36:58   0.81   -28.54   5.0   10   CENTRAL MID-ATLANTIC RIDGE     5154830


Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on September 04, 2015, 05:24:39 pm
Hmmm Actually it's been pretty quiet last few months :D

I bet they are using HAARP earthquake waves to NEUTRALIZE natural waves and keep California quiet all these years when LOGIC say it should have had activity :P

And yes equal and opposite waves DO cancell each other out :P  Funny how no one griping about HAARP ever thought about that

 ::)

EVERY DAY around the Rim of Fire

(http://ds.iris.edu/seismon/views/eveday//imgs/zmMap.eveday.N_Pacific.gif)

(http://ds.iris.edu/seismon/views/eveday//imgs/zmMap.eveday.Australia_NZ.gif)

(http://ds.iris.edu/seismon/views/eveday//imgs/zmMap.eveday.S_America.gif)

yet barely a rumble on the West Coast

(http://ds.iris.edu/seismon/views/eveday//imgs/zmMap.eveday.N_America.gif)

Prediction tool :P  Go ahead try some

http://ds.iris.edu/seismon/
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on September 07, 2015, 12:05:41 pm

ice levels.. very interesting who ever is the cause

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW9x3eZinbs

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW9x3eZinbs[/youtube]
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on September 09, 2015, 08:44:50 pm


interesting..but how to know if it's true..and look at the date...I know it takes awhile for these reports to get out..so how much has it changed since last year..?


http://www.sciencealert.com/antarcticas-lost-so-much-ice-its-changed-earths-gravity

SCIENCEALERT STAFF    2 OCT 2014


Antarctica’s lost so much ice it’s changed Earth’s gravity

(http://www.sciencealert.com/images/stories/new2014/Ice_loss_dips_gravity.jpg)


A visualisation of satellite data, showing the gravity change over West Antarctica.
Image: European Space Agency

It sounds like something out of a science fiction film, but Antarctica has now lost so much ice it’s caused a noticeable shift in Earth’s gravity, the European Space Agency (ESA) announced last week.

“The loss of ice from West Antarctica between 2009 and 2012 caused a dip in the gravity field over the region,” the ESA wrote in a press release.

But while it sounds extreme, the change in gravity won’t affect us much - for example, if you were in Antarctica right now you wouldn’t actually feel any more “weightless” than you do anywhere else in the world.

The biggest implication of the discovery, as Eric Holthaus from Slate.com and the climate desk over at Wired report, is that it confirms global warming is significantly changing the Antarctic.

Although we often think of gravity as a constant, the strength of gravitational force actually varies depending where on Earth’s surface you stand, and the density of the land (or ice) you’re standing on.

Over the past four years the ESA’s GOCE satellite measured Earth’s gravitational field in unprecedented detail, and revealed that there’s been a significant decrease over West Antarctica. The change was confirmed by lower resolution data from a US and German-run satellite called GRACE.

Although it's pretty grim news, it's not exactly surprising - earlier this year, an unrelated team concluded that major West Antarctic glaciers have now begun “unstoppable” collapse, and would lead to unpreventable sea level rise of several metres over the next several hundred years.

The ESA’s CryoSat satellite, which measures the altitude of regions on Earth, also recently revealed that the rate at which ice has been lost from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet has increased by a factor of three every year since 2009.

The ESA team is now hoping to scale up their investigation and map the change in gravity over the entire Antarctic continent, to better measure the impact climate change is having on the region, and help the world to better predict sea level rise.

Watch a visualisation of the change in gravity:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgMl7nufgF0
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgMl7nufgF0[/youtube]
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: rdunk on September 09, 2015, 10:40:16 pm
Well, I haven't read anything on Antarctica in several months, but it hasn't been very long ago - ( a year), that Antarctica had much more/growing more ice than normal??? Has the situation changed so fast?? :)

Here is a link to one of the places we discussed Antarctica ice here about a year ago -

"Antarctica sets new record for sea ice area"

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6961.0
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on September 10, 2015, 05:45:16 am
"Antarctica sets new record for sea ice area"
If I'm not mistaken, there was a bigger surface covered with ice but it was thin and the rest of the ice was getting thinner, so the volume (and mass) was less than before.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: rdunk on September 10, 2015, 06:04:46 am
If I'm not mistaken, there was a bigger surface covered with ice but it was thin and the rest of the ice was getting thinner, so the volume (and mass) was less than before.
Yes, I think that was discussed, but I am not sure that was truly ascertained. From a global temperature standpoint, I would think that surface ice area could have more direct affect on global temperatures than does ice thickness anyway.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on September 10, 2015, 09:59:17 am
LAKE VOSTOK  ANTARCTICA

A very very cold frozen place  (yet the lake is warm  :P )

Take a drill  and do some core samples through 2.2 miles of ice, going back 420,000 years..

(http://www.tovima.gr/files/1/2013/03/08/lake_vostok_nsf_h.jpg)

Collect the data from the annual thickness of the layers of ice. Like tree rings will tell you wet and dry years, the ice cores will tell you warm and cold years

(http://www.lavoisier.com.au/images/Figure1.jpg)

They will also give you CO2 levels (long before man came along but I suppose Dino farts are just as bad as cow farts :P )

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Vostok_co2_temp_CO2_415000_yrs_print.jpg)

Religious people may ignore this data :P
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on September 10, 2015, 10:07:52 am
NASA SAYS:

Current State of the Sea Ice Cover


Quote
J. C. Comiso, C. L. Parkinson, T. Markus, D. J. Cavalieri and R. Gersten
The sea ice cover is one of the key components of the climate system. It has been a focus of attention in recent years, largely because of a strong decrease in the Arctic sea ice cover and modeling results that indicate that global warming could be amplified in the region by a factor of about 3 to 5 times on account of ice-albedo feedback. This results from the high reflectivity (albedo) of the sea ice compared to ice-free waters. A satellite-based data record starting in late 1978 shows that indeed rapid changes have been occurring in the Arctic, where the perennial ice cover has been declining at the rate of about 13% per decade and the ice cover as a whole has been declining at the lesser rate of about 5% per decade. In the Antarctic, the trend is opposite to that in the Arctic, with the sea ice cover increasing at about 1 to 2 % per decade. This is despite unusual warming in the Antarctic Peninsula region and declines in the sea ice cover in the Amundsen/Bellingshausen Seas of about 6% per decade. In the Arctic, a slight recovery in the sea ice cover has been observed in 2008 and 2009, following a major decline of the ice in 2007, while in the Antarctic, the sea ice cover was more extensive than normal in 2007, 2008, and 2009. Shown below are up-to-date satellite observations of the sea ice covers of both the Arctic and the Antarctic, along with comparisons with the historical satellite record of more than 30 years. The plots and color coded maps are chosen to provide information about the current state of the sea ice cover and how the most current daily data available compare with the record lows and record highs for the same date during the satellite era..

(http://neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov/uploads/images_db/CSIC_figure1.png)
Figure 1: 10-year averages between 1979 and 2008 and yearly averages for 2007, 2012, and 2015 of the daily (a) ice extent and (b) ice area in the Northern Hemisphere and a listing of the extent and area of the current, historical mean, minimum, and maximum values in km2.

(http://neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov/uploads/images_db/CSIC_figure2.png)
Figure 2: Color-coded map of the daily sea ice concentration in the Northern Hemisphere for the indicated recent date along with the contours of the 15% edge during the years with the least extent of ice (in red) and the greatest extent of ice (in yellow) during the period from November 1978 to the present. The extents in km2 for the current and for the years of minimum and maximum extents are provided below the image. The different shades of gray over land indicate the land elevation with the lightest gray being the highest elevation.

(http://neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov/uploads/images_db/CSIC_figure3.png)
Figure 3: 10-year averages between 1979 and 2008 and yearly averages for 2012, 2014, and 2015 of the daily (a) ice extent and (b) ice area in the Southern Hemisphere and a listing of the extent and area of the current, historical mean, minimum, and maximum values in km2.

(http://neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov/uploads/images_db/CSIC_figure4.png)
Figure 4:Color-coded map of the daily sea ice concentration in the Southern Hemisphere for the indicated recent date along with the contours of the 15% edge during the years with the least extent of ice (in red) and the greatest extent of ice (in yellow) during the period from November 1978 to the present. The extents in km2 for the current and for the years of minimum and maximum extents are provided below the image. The different shades of gray over land indicate the land elevation with the lightest gray being the highest elevation.

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Figure 5. Seasonal cycle of Northern Hemisphere sea ice extents (a) and areas (b), given as daily averages, for the years 2007 through 2015. The vertical line represents the last data point plotted.

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Figure 6. Seasonal cycle of Southern Hemisphere sea ice extents (a) and areas (b), given as daily averages, for the years 2007 through 2015. The vertical line represents the last data point plotted.

http://neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov/csb/index.php?section=234
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on September 10, 2015, 12:44:52 pm
If I'm not mistaken, there was a bigger surface covered with ice but it was thin and the rest of the ice was getting thinner, so the volume (and mass) was less than before.
I was mistaken, the data was for the Arctic and it was a bigger volume, not smaller.

I suppose I couldn't be wronger. ;D
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on October 08, 2015, 11:53:51 am


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/coral-bleaching-climate-change_561568d9e4b021e856d33d0f
Nick Visser
Reporter, The Huffington Post
Posted: 10/08/2015 11:06 AM EDT | Edited: 2 hours ago

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Bleached corals in West Papua, Indonesia. The world's corals are experiencing a mass bleaching as a result of warmer ocean temperatures and other factors.

Here's Evidence That Something Very Bad Is Happening In Our Oceans
You may never see them, but coral reefs are suffering along with the rest of our planet.

The planet's coral reefs are experiencing a mass global bleaching, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration announced on Thursday. The bleaching, only the third event of its type in recorded history, is another troubling sign of the damaging effects of climate change on the planet's health.

Bleaching happens when usually vibrantly colored corals lose their hues and turn bright white due to warmer oceans or other environmental factors. The colorful algae that live in and feed coral polyps leave in stressful times, turning the otherwise breathtaking formations into ghostly shells.

Warmer ocean temperatures are wreaking havoc on the undersea biome, causing widespread damage to delicate coral ecosystems that may well get worse due to the potential effects of a strong El Niño tropical weather system.

Reefs cover about 0.1 percent of the ocean floor, but are home to some 25 percent of marine life and have long been one of the main victims of a hotter world. However, Mark Eakin, the coordinator for NOAA's Coral Reef Watch program, said corals are often out of the public eye simply because they're underwater.

"What do you think people would do if, in a matter of months, 60 percent of the redwood forest would die?" he asked. "It's a bit of a problem of being out of sight, out of mind."

Eakin was referring to a smaller-scale bleaching that took place in the Caribbean in 2005 that wiped out 60 percent of corals in that region, but went relatively unnoticed. Now, however, bleaching is taking place on a much larger scale. Mass bleaching has happened just twice before, Eakin said, once in 1998 and again in 2010.

The current global bleaching began in the northern Pacific in the summer of 2014 and has since expanded throughout the Pacific and Indian Oceans. Corals in the U.S. have been among the hardest-hit, and scientists are particularly concerned with formations around Hawaii and the Caribbean.

The chart below shows the probable threat of bleaching around the globe for the next several months, with the dark red areas showing the places that face the greatest risk.

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NOAA's standard 4-month bleaching outlook showing threat of bleaching continuing in the Caribbean, Hawaii and Kiribati, and perhaps expanding into the Republic of the Marshall Islands, from October 2015 to January 2016.

When algae leave coral during a bleaching, the reef is left sick, hungry and vulnerable. This doesn't necessarily kill the coral, and some certainly recover. But severe or long-term bleaching -- like the current phenomenon -- is often fatal, according to NOAA. As reefs die, a slew of biodiversity is thrown out of whack. Fish lose their homes, crustaceans leave and many other species die as well

"After corals die, reefs quickly degrade and the structures corals build erode," a press release from NOAA reads. "This provides less shoreline protection from storms and fewer habitats for fish and other marine life, including ecologically and economically important species."

However, Eakin was quick to note that while the current bleaching event is severe enough, the ongoing El Niño could amp it up to "frightening" levels in the near future, as illustrated below

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An extended bleaching outlook showing the threat of bleaching expected in Kiribati, the Galapagos, the South Pacific -- especially east of the dateline and perhaps affecting Polynesia -- and most coral reef regions in the Indian Ocean, from February to May 2016.

The news is the latest in a series of troubling climate-related milestones. Last month, NOAA announced that this year's summer had been the hottest in recorded history. In August, scientists said the world's glaciers had melted to the lowest levels since record-keeping began more than 120 years ago. And in March, researchers said Arctic sea ice had seen the smallest annual growth ever.

NOAA's announcement about the bleaching comes a little less than two months ahead of the highly anticipated Paris climate summit in December. Hundreds of world leaders will attempt to devise a global plan for combating climate change, as time is running out to keep the planet below an agreed-upon warming threshold of 2 degrees Celsius.

Oceans will be a key issue during the summit, and Eakin says there's an "absolutely urgent need" for action. By the end of the current bleaching event, he says, some 4,600 square miles of reefs could be dead.

"One of the most heart-wrenching dives I've made in my life was in 2010 during the second global bleaching event," Eakin said of a dive he took in Thailand. "It was just fields of bleached coral. The fish were swimming around in midwater looking stunned."
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: rdunk on October 08, 2015, 01:04:22 pm
"NOAA's announcement about the bleaching comes a little less than two months ahead of the highly anticipated Paris climate summit in December. Hundreds of world leaders will attempt to devise a global plan for combating climate change, as time is running out to keep the planet below an agreed-upon warming threshold of 2 degrees Celsius".

My my, such "coincidental timing" of this news release with the upcoming meeting!

Is it even remotely possible that "hundreds of world leaders" have even a vague notion of what the reality of climate and climate change is all about? Isn't it a ludicrous suggestion that this "summit" might achieve anything other than completing another tax-payer paid boondoggle to Paris in the month December? Oh, the religion of climate change!!! Wonder when they will want a Climate Change mosque @ ground zero in New York city??  :P

A global plan to stop climate change:

1. Turn off the Sun. Uh oh, that turns off the Moon too!
2. If we cannot turnoff the Sun, then completely cover the earth with clouds (or with other light dimming subject material) during normal daylight hours around the globe.
3. Bring the Moon closer to the Earth, until its shadow from the Sun completely covers the Sun-side of the Earth's surface.
4. Plug all volcanos, on the surface, and under water, to stop the heat ejections.
5. Bring in enough "dark matter", and position it in a constant position between the Earth and the Sun, to block just the right amount of sunlight, so that the Earth continues to have days and nights, but with much less "global warming" light.
6. Learn to totally control the weather, so that rain producing/snow/ice clouds can always be positioned to the right places to preclude excessing overheating by the Sun!
7. Move everyone to Mars, as it appears as if global warming may have already happened there!!

 8. etc etc

And then - - HOW TO  REVERSE all of THE ABOVE (except #7) "defeat global warming stuff" when the "ice age" actually begins to start!!!!! Because, we can live with it hot, but we will freeze solid in the ice age, as did the Hairy Mammoths during the last one!!!  ;) ;) :D
 
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on October 10, 2015, 10:43:09 am

weather you believe that WE DID IT or it is just the earth evolving really doesn't matter anymore
it's past the half way mark now


http://graphics.latimes.com/exxon-arctic/
By Sara Jerving, Katie Jennings, Masako Melissa Hirsch and Susanne Rust

Oct. 9, 2015


What Exxon knew about the Earth's melting Arctic


About this story: Over the last year, the Energy and Environmental Reporting Project at Columbia University’s Graduate School of Journalism, with the Los Angeles Times, has been researching the gap between Exxon Mobil’s public position and its internal planning on the issue of climate change. As part of that effort, reporters reviewed hundreds of documents housed in archives in Calgary’s Glenbow Museum and at the University of Texas. They also reviewed scientific journals and interviewed dozens of experts, including former Exxon Mobil employees. This is the first in a series of occasional articles.

Additional credits: Digital producer: Evan Wagstaff. Lead photo caption: Ice in the Chukchi Sea breaks up in open water season, making oil exploration cheaper and easier.

Back in 1990, as the debate over climate change was heating up, a dissident shareholder petitioned the board of Exxon, one of the world’s largest oil companies, imploring it to develop a plan to reduce carbon dioxide emissions from its production plants and facilities.
 
The board’s response: Exxon had studied the science of global warming and concluded it was too murky to warrant action. The company’s “examination of the issue supports the conclusions that the facts today and the projection of future effects are very unclear.”

Yet in the far northern regions of Canada’s Arctic frontier, researchers and engineers at Exxon and Imperial Oil were quietly incorporating climate change projections into the company’s planning and closely studying how to adapt the company’s Arctic operations to a warming planet.

Ken Croasdale, senior ice researcher for Exxon’s Canadian subsidiary, was leading a Calgary-based team of researchers and engineers that was trying to determine how global warming could affect Exxon’s Arctic operations and its bottom line.

 
Top, the loss of sea ice due to climate change has taken a toll on wildlife. (Mike Lockhart / U.S. Geological Survey, Associated Press) Bottom, rapidly thawing permafrost is changing the landscape in Canada’s Northwest Territories. (Scott Zolkos / The Canadian Press)

“Certainly any major development with a life span of say 30-40 years will need to assess the impacts of potential global warming,” Croasdale told an engineering conference in 1991. “This is particularly true of Arctic and offshore projects in Canada, where warming will clearly affect sea ice, icebergs, permafrost and sea levels.”

Between 1986 and 1992, Croasdale’s team looked at both the positive and negative effects that a warming Arctic would have on oil operations, reporting its findings to Exxon headquarters in Houston and New Jersey.

The good news for Exxon, he told an audience of academics and government researchers in 1992, was that “potential global warming can only help lower exploration and development costs” in the Beaufort Sea.


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Top, the loss of sea ice due to climate change has taken a toll on wildlife. (Mike Lockhart / U.S. Geological Survey, Associated Press) Bottom, rapidly thawing permafrost is changing the landscape in Canada’s Northwest Territories. (Scott Zolkos / The Canadian Press)

But, he added, it also posed hazards, including higher sea levels and bigger waves, which could damage the company’s existing and future coastal and offshore infrastructure, including drilling platforms, artificial islands, processing plants and pump stations. And a thawing earth could be troublesome for those facilities as well as pipelines.

As Croasdale’s team was closely studying the impact of climate change on the company’s operations, Exxon and its worldwide affiliates were crafting a public policy position that sought to downplay the certainty of global warming.

The gulf between Exxon’s internal and external approach to climate change from the 1980s through the early 2000s was evident in a review of hundreds of internal documents, decades of peer-reviewed published material and dozens of interviews conducted by Columbia University’s Energy & Environmental Reporting Project and the Los Angeles Times.

Documents were obtained from the Imperial Oil collection at Calgary’s Glenbow Museum and the Exxon Mobil Historical Collection at the University of Texas at Austin’s Briscoe Center for American History.

“We considered climate change in a number of operational and planning issues,” said Brian Flannery, who was Exxon’s in-house climate science advisor from 1980 to 2011. In a recent interview, he described the company’s internal effort to study the effects of global warming as a competitive necessity: “If you don’t do it, and your competitors do, you’re at a loss.”

The Arctic holds about one-third of the world’s untapped natural gas and roughly 13% of the planet’s undiscovered oil, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. More than three-quarters of Arctic deposits are offshore.

Imperial Oil, about 70% of which is owned by Exxon Mobil, began drilling in the frigid Arctic waters of the Canadian Beaufort Sea in the early 1970s. By the early 1990s, it had drilled two dozen exploratory wells.

The exploration was expensive, due to bitter temperatures, wicked winds and thick sea ice. And when a worldwide oil slump drove petroleum prices down in the late 1980s, the company began scaling back those efforts.

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Before: Arctic ice coverage in 1984. After: Receding coverage in 2013.


But with mounting evidence the planet was warming, company scientists, including Croasdale, wondered whether climate change might alter the economic equation. Could it make Arctic oil exploration and production easier and cheaper?

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Seismic lines are used to detect natural gas and other underground deposits on the frozen Beaufort Sea. (Tom Cohen / Associated Press)
“The issue of CO2 emissions was certainly well-known at that time in the late 1980s,” Croasdale said in an interview.

Since the late 1970s and into the 1980s, Exxon had been at the forefront of climate change research, funding its own internal science as well as research from outside experts at Columbia University and MIT.

With company support, Croasdale spearheaded the company’s efforts to understand climate change’s effects on its operations. A company such as Exxon, he said, “should be a little bit ahead of the game trying to figure out what it was all about.”

Exxon Mobil describes its efforts in those years as standard operating procedure. “Our researchers considered a wide range of potential scenarios, of which potential climate change impacts such as rising sea levels was just one,” said Alan Jeffers, a spokesman for Exxon Mobil.

The Arctic seemed an obvious region to study, Croasdale and other experts said, because it was likely to be most affected by global warming.

That reasoning was backed by models built by Exxon scientists, including Flannery, as well as Marty Hoffert, a New York University physicist. Their work, published in 1984, showed that global warming would be most pronounced near the poles.

Between 1986, when Croasdale took the reins of Imperial’s frontier research team, until 1992, when he left the company, his team of engineers and scientists used the global circulation models developed by the Canadian Climate Centre and NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies to anticipate how climate change could affect a variety of operations in the Arctic.

These were the same models that — for the next two decades — Exxon’s executives publicly dismissed as unreliable and based on uncertain science. As Chief Executive Lee Raymond explained at an annual meeting in 1999, future climate “projections are based on completely unproven climate models, or, more often, on sheer speculation.”

One of the first areas the company looked at was how the Beaufort Sea could respond to a doubling of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, which the models predicted would happen by 2050.

Greenhouse gases are rising “due to the burning of fossil fuels,” Croasdale told an audience of engineers at a conference in 1991. “Nobody disputes this fact,” he said, nor did anyone doubt those levels would double by the middle of the 21st century.

Using the models and data from a climate change report issued by Environment Canada, Canada’s environmental agency, the team concluded that the Beaufort Sea’s open water season — when drilling and exploration occurred — would lengthen from two months to three and possibly five months.

They were spot on.

In the years following Croasdale’s conclusions, the Beaufort Sea has experienced some of the largest losses in sea ice in the Arctic and its open water season has increased significantly, according to Mark Serreze, a senior researcher at the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colo.

For instance, in Alaska’s Chukchi Sea, west of the Beaufort, the season has been extended by 79 days since 1979, Serreze said.

An extended open water season, Croasdale said in 1992, could potentially reduce exploratory drilling and construction costs by 30% to 50%.

 
Members of the environmental group Greenpeace work to hang a banner protesting oil drilling at the Alyeska Pipeline Service Co.’s Valdez, Alaska terminal, on August 5, 1991. (Carey Anderson / Associated Press)

He did not recommend making investment decisions based on those scenarios, because he believed the science was still uncertain. However, he advised the company to consider and incorporate potential “negative outcomes,” including a rise in the sea level, which could threaten onshore infrastructure; bigger waves, which could damage offshore drilling structures; and thawing permafrost, which could make the earth buckle and slide under buildings and pipelines.

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Members of the environmental group Greenpeace work to hang a banner protesting oil drilling at the Alyeska Pipeline Service Co.’s Valdez, Alaska terminal, on August 5, 1991. (Carey Anderson / Associated Press)

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The most pressing concerns for the company centered on a 540-mile pipeline that crossed the Northwest Territories into Alberta, its riverside processing facilities in the remote town of Norman Wells, and a proposed natural gas facility and pipeline in the Mackenzie River Delta, on the shores of the Beaufort Sea.
 
The company hired Stephen Lonergan, a Canadian geographer from McMaster University, to study the effect of climate change there.

Lonergan used several climate models in his analysis, including the NASA model. They all concluded that things would get warmer and wetter and that those effects “cannot be ignored,” he said in his report.

As a result, the company should expect “maintenance and repair costs to roads, pipelines and other engineering structures” to be sizable in the future, he wrote.

A warmer Arctic would threaten the stability of permafrost, he noted, potentially damaging the buildings, processing plants and pipelines that were built on the solid, frozen ground.

In addition, the company should expect more flooding along its riverside facilities, an earlier spring breakup of the ice pack, and more-severe summer storms.

But it was the increased variability and unpredictability of the weather that was going to be the company’s biggest challenge, he said.

Record-breaking droughts, floods and extreme heat — the worst-case scenarios — were now events that not only were likely to happen, but could occur at any time, making planning for such scenarios difficult, Lonergan warned the company in his report. Extreme temperatures and precipitation “should be of greatest concern,” he wrote, “both in terms of future design and … expected impacts.”

The fact that temperatures could rise above freezing on almost any day of the year got his superiors’ attention. That “was probably one of the biggest results of the study and that shocked a lot of people,” he said in a recent interview.

Lonergan recalled that his report came as somewhat of a disappointment to Imperial’s management, which wanted specific advice on what action it should take to protect its operations. After presenting his findings, he remembered, one engineer said: “Look, all I want to know is: Tell me what impact this is going to have on permafrost in Norman Wells and our pipelines.”

As it happened, J.F. “Derick” Nixon, a geotechnical engineer on Croasdale’s team, was studying that question.

He looked at historical temperature data and concluded Norman Wells could grow about 0.2 degrees warmer every year. How would that, he wondered, affect the frozen ground underneath buildings and pipelines?

“Although future structures may incorporate some consideration of climatic warming in their design,” he wrote in a technical paper delivered at a conference in Canada in 1991, “northern structures completed in the recent past do not have any allowance for climatic warming.” The result, he said, could be significant settling.

Nixon said the work was done in his spare time and not commissioned by the company. However, Imperial “was certainly aware of my work and the potential effects on their buildings.”
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Exxon Mobil declined to respond to requests for comment on what steps it took as a result of its scientists’ warnings. According to Flannery, the company’s in-house climate expert, much of the work of shoring up support for the infrastructure was done as routine maintenance.

“You build it into your ongoing system and it becomes a part of what you do,” he said.

Today, as Exxon’s scientists predicted 25 years ago, Canada’s Northwest Territories has experienced some of the most dramatic effects of global warming. While the rest of the planet has seen an average increase of roughly 1.5 degrees in the last 100 years, the northern reaches of the province have warmed by 5.4 degrees and temperatures in central regions have increased by 3.6 degrees.

Since 2012, Exxon Mobil and Imperial have held the rights to more than 1 million acres in the Beaufort Sea, for which they bid $1.7 billion in a joint venture with BP. Although the companies have not begun drilling, they requested a lease extension until 2028 from the Canadian government a few months ago. Exxon Mobil declined to comment on its plans there.

Croasdale, who still consults for Exxon, said the company could be “taking a gamble” the ice will break up soon, finally bringing about the day he predicted so long ago — when the costs would become low enough to make Arctic exploration economical.

Amy Lieberman and Elah Feder contributed to this report.


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hummmmmmmmmmmm

something else going on here, I think




This story has been updated.

In a setback for dreams of Arctic oil riches, Royal Dutch Shell announced early Monday morning it will indefinitely suspend its Arctic drilling off the Alaska coast after finding insufficient oil and gas in one of its exploratory wells to justify costly development.

The move puts an end — for now — to the contentious debate over whether oil and gas exploration should take place in the environmentally sensitive area off Alaska’s coast. President Obama has come under intense fire for allowing drilling to proceed, and environmentalists cheered Shell’s announcement.

It also highlights the tremendous costs and risks of drilling in the Arctic frontier, which is thought to have vast oil reserves but where little exploration has taken place so far. Daunted by the task, half a dozen companies had already put their Arctic plans on ice; while Exxon Mobil found oil in Russia’s Kara Sea, economic sanctions forced it to halt operations there.

In a statement at 1 a.m. Eastern time, Shell said

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/09/28/royal-dutch-shell-suspends-arctic-drilling-indefinitely/

By Juliet Eilperin and Steven Mufson September 28

Royal Dutch Shell suspends Arctic drilling indefinitely
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on October 10, 2015, 02:35:18 pm
Meanwhile in Antarctica....

Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches New Record Maximum

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Sea ice surrounding Antarctica reached a new record high extent this year, covering more of the southern oceans than it has since scientists began a long-term satellite record to map sea ice extent in the late 1970s. The upward trend in the Antarctic, however, is only about a third of the magnitude of the rapid loss of sea ice in the Arctic Ocean.

The new Antarctic sea ice record reflects the diversity and complexity of Earth’s environments, said NASA researchers. Claire Parkinson, a senior scientist at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, has referred to changes in sea ice coverage as a microcosm of global climate change. Just as the temperatures in some regions of the planet are colder than average, even in our warming world, Antarctic sea ice has been increasing and bucking the overall trend of ice loss.

“The planet as a whole is doing what was expected in terms of warming. Sea ice as a whole is decreasing as expected, but just like with global warming, not every location with sea ice will have a downward trend in ice extent,” Parkinson said.

Since the late 1970s, the Arctic has lost an average of 20,800 square miles (53,900 square kilometers) of ice a year; the Antarctic has gained an average of 7,300 square miles (18,900 sq km). On Sept. 19 this year, for the first time ever since 1979, Antarctic sea ice extent exceeded 7.72 million square miles (20 million square kilometers), according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center. The ice extent stayed above this benchmark extent for several days. The average maximum extent between 1981 and 2010 was 7.23 million square miles (18.72 million square kilometers).

The single-day maximum extent this year was reached on Sept. 20, according to NSIDC data, when the sea ice covered  7.78 million square miles (20.14 million square kilometers). This year's five-day average maximum was reached on Sept. 22, when sea ice covered 7.76 million square miles (20.11 million square kilometers), according to NSIDC.

https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on October 11, 2015, 08:37:31 pm


whatever you believe or read.. the weather is in constant flux


http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/cold-blob-in-north-atlantic-ocean-may-affect-weather-in-europe-eastern-us/ar-AAfhPgG?li=AAa0dzB&OCID=msnHomepage

AccuWeather
Alex Sosnowski, AccuWeather.com Senior Meteorologist
12 hrs ago

Cold 'Blob' in North Atlantic Ocean May Affect Weather in Europe, Eastern US

A "blob" of abnormally cold water in the North Atlantic, located near Greenland, has the potential to put enough drag on the ocean current to impact weather conditions in the years to come.


According to data compiled by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), sea surface water temperatures over much of the Atlantic were warmer than average spanning January to August 2015. Waters from the northwestern Caribbean to the central part of the ocean were not only very warm but were record warm.

However, very chilly to record cold water has developed near Greenland, the NOAA data revealed.

The reason for the cold pocket and less salty water is believed to be due to the melting ice in Greenland discharging fresh water into the nearby North Atlantic.

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While the cold, less salty pool near Greenland may be some sort of balancing act in the Earth's complex climate, it could cause the Gulf Stream to weaken. A weakening Gulf Stream could have major impact on the weather and climate.

The Gulf Stream is a strong ocean current that transports warm water northward just off the East Coast of the United States and sends branches of water along western Europe. The Gulf Stream is a part of the Atlantic's circulatory system.

According to According to AccuWeather Chief Meteorologist Elliot Abrams, "If the Gulf Stream and correspondingly other currents in the Atlantic weaken, then it could change long-term temperature patterns all around the Atlantic basin."

Some scientists believe that prior temperature anomalies have already begun to alter and slow the Gulf Stream and the balance of the currents circulating through the Atlantic over the past 100 years or so.

The temperature of surface ocean water can vastly affect the temperature of nearby land areas.

In a short-term example, people along the New England coast notice the routine chilling effect the cold Labrador Current and a sea breeze have on their weather during a number of days in the spring.

The colder the water is along the coast, the colder nearby communities will be during a sea breeze. As the Labrador Current weakens and water warms later in the summer, the cooling effect becomes less pronounced.

"London, at 51.5 North latitude, is north of all of the contiguous states, even Caribou, Maine," Abrams said. "Despite how far north it is, the climate in London is fairly mild due to the influence of the warm Gulf Stream waters."

Fairly routine fluctuations in temperatures of the tropical Pacific Ocean, known as the El Niño Southern Oscillation have been known to affect weather patterns around a large part of the globe.

Temperature changes, related to El Niño have been known to impact fish population distribution. When fishing conditions change, it can make a real difference in regional economies.

Long-term effects of the altering of the Gulf Stream and other Atlantic currents are complex.

Assuming the Atlantic current slow-down theory is correct, and should the abnormally cold water off of Greenland remain consistent, it could continue to partially block the transport of warm water and correspondingly warm air into western Europe for years to come.

The climate in the region including in London, Amsterdam, Paris and Lisbon could then cool a few degrees, relative to the warming conditions around the globe.

According to AccuWeather Long-Range Experts Brett Anderson and Bob Smerbeck, there is always a cause and effect relationship in terms of the ocean and the atmosphere.

"When there is an anomaly with either the atmosphere or ocean temperature you can bet there will be some effect on the other nearby or far away," Anderson said.

Areas other than western Europe could also become cooler or warmer due to the effects of slowing currents; this includes Iceland, southeastern Canada, the U.S. East Coast and the Caribbean islands.

It could also make some areas around the Atlantic shoreline more or less stormy and cause fluctuations in rain, snowfall and tropical storms.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on October 12, 2015, 02:35:37 am
Used to be a show on TV called "CONNECTIONS"

They did one on CASTLES  a favorite subject of mine :P

Most English Castles were just made of stone... no window, just openings, no interior wall covering, etc. You would think they were cold and drafty...

Well it was WARMER back then    until the last time the Gulf Stream weakens and cause the MINI ICE AGE

Those castles then got very cold and damp and drafty..

The CONNECTION is that this sudden cold spell cause the invention of the Fire Place and Window Panes,  as well as Tapestries to hang on the wall to act as insulation on the now cold stone walls.

That was really a cool show... as it followed how things were invented by necessity and developed from there


Diminishing solar activity may bring new Ice Age by 2030

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The arrival of intense cold similar to the one that raged during the “Little Ice Age”, which froze the world during the 17th century and in the beginning of the 18th century, is expected in the years 2030—2040. These conclusions were presented by Professor V. Zharkova (Northumbria University) during the National Astronomy Meeting in Llandudno in Wales by the international group of scientists, which also includes Dr Helen Popova of the Skobeltsyn Institute of Nuclear Physics and of the Faculty of Physics of the Lomonosov Moscow State University, Professor Simon Shepherd of Bradford University and Dr Sergei Zharkov of Hull University.

http://astronomynow.com/2015/07/17/diminishing-solar-activity-may-bring-new-ice-age-by-2030/
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Post by: A51Watcher on October 13, 2015, 08:04:07 pm

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Post by: A51Watcher on October 13, 2015, 08:36:31 pm


California has gotten out of the avacado growing business due to exteme drought and high water prices, and the fact that it takes 74 gallons of water to produce one pound of avocados.

Since drought-stricken California produces 95 percent of the avocados grown in the United States, Oregon farmers have been talking about trying to take up the slack, despite having no experience growing the crop.

They seem to be under some delusion that we have plenty of water.

I suggest they take a look at the current state of Mt. Hood (shown above) and do some serious re- thinking.

I have never seen the mountain look this bare or even close to it my whole life.

 
 
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Post by: space otter on October 13, 2015, 08:47:03 pm

here's the link to check out your coast for higher water
http://choices.climatecentral.org/#12/40.7116/-74.0006?compare=scenarios&carbon-end-yr=2100&scenario-a=unchecked&scenario-b=extreme-cuts





More Than 400 U.S. Cities May Be 'Past The Point Of No Return' With Sea Level Threats

But there are still cities that could be saved by reducing carbon emissions.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/us-cities-sea-level-threats_561d338fe4b0c5a1ce60a45c
Lydia O'Connor
Associate News Editor, The Huffington Post
Posted: 10/13/2015 07:28 PM EDT

Millions of Americans live in places where it's too late to slow the threat of rising sea levels, a new study warns, and researchers are hoping those findings will serve as a call to action for cities that can still be saved by cutting carbon emissions.

The study, published Monday in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences,
http://www.pnas.org/content/current
 examines how much rising sea levels will affect cities across the United States over time if carbon emissions stay the same or decrease. The most startling finding is that 414 towns and cities have already passed their lock-in date, or the point at which it's guaranteed that more than half the city's populated land will eventually be underwater no matter how much humans decrease carbon emissions; it's just a matter of when.

That's "the date where we let the genie out of the bottle, when it’s past the point of no return," lead study author Benjamin Strauss of Climate Central told The Huffington Post.

Of those 414 cities, New Orleans stands to be one of the most compromised.

"Even in a best-case carbon emissions scenario, 98 percent of populated land in New Orleans would be below the future sea level," Strauss said, because it's so flat and low-lying. "So it’s really just a question of building suitable defenses or eventually abandoning the city."

Those defenses could include higher levees around the city, but that's not an ideal solution, Strauss said.

"How deep a bowl do you want to live in?" he asked. "We already saw with [Hurricane] Katrina what can happen when a levee is breached, and the higher the water gets and the taller the levee gets, the more catastrophic a levee breach would become."

Conditions in New Orleans could be even worse than the study predicts, he noted, as it didn't take into account the fact that New Orleans is already sinking.

Low, flat Miami, another city that's past its lock-in date, is also of great concern because of the type of land beneath it.

"The extra problem that Miami has is that it’s sitting on porous limestone, or, in other words, the bedrock underneath Miami is a lot like Swiss cheese," he said. "Water can just go through it and so building levees is not going to be effective in South Florida."

In every scenario in the study except the two most extreme ones, Florida contains at least 40 percent of the people living on potentially affected land.

How quickly these situations would play out remains a mystery.

"Think of a pile of ice in a warm room," Strauss said. "It’s very easy to know that it’s going to melt, but it’s harder to say just how quickly, and we have a similar problem with sea level projections."

While the future looks bleak in some cities, Strauss emphasized that many cities can be saved if people take swift action against carbon emissions.

"The most interesting thing to me is there are a great deal of cities where our carbon choices make a huge difference," he said. "For example, if you look at Philadelphia, under business as usual, land that accounts for more than 100,000 people could be submerged. But you divide that total by 10 with an extreme carbon cut. The very biggest difference of all is for New York City, where you can avoid submergence of land where one and a half million people live."

There's similar promise in Virginia Beach, Sacramento and Jacksonville, Florida, he said.

"To me this is really a question of our American legacy and American heritage," Strauss said. "Are we going to let the ocean take a state-sized bite out of America? If we make extreme efforts to cut carbon, we can avoid that."

You can find out how much rising sea levels will affect your city -- or any city -- under different carbon emissions scenarios using this map tool from Climate Central.
http://choices.climatecentral.org/#12/40.7116/-74.0006?compare=scenarios&carbon-end-yr=2100&scenario-a=unchecked&scenario-b=extreme-cuts
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Post by: zorgon on October 14, 2015, 12:12:04 pm
Since drought-stricken California produces 95 percent of the avocados grown in the United States, Oregon farmers have been talking about trying to take up the slack, despite having no experience growing the crop.

I HATE Guacamole :P  They try to put it on everything down here.  They should also stop the almonds  I hear that takes ridiculous amounts of water

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They seem to be under some delusion that we have plenty of water.

I think that comes from all those years of us hearing about the constant flooding in Oregon and Washington.  I too was under the impression that you guys are all wet :P

The pipeline is still a good idea  but lets go east... Look at the recent flooding out that way

Surely we are technologically advanced enough to manage our water between flood zones and dry zones... The Romans did it without pipes and pumps... built huge aquaducts that still stand today

But we are too busy messing around in the Middle East to take care of our own issues

Looks pretty wet to me in Oregon :P

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Post by: space otter on October 24, 2015, 06:57:47 am

ah-ha


http://www.inquisitr.com/2516818/how-deep-sea-bacteria-could-help-solve-climate-change/

October 24, 2015
Justin Streight

How Deep Sea Bacteria Could Help Solve Climate Change

Scientists may have a new weapon against CO2 buildup and the struggle against climate change – deep sea bacteria. One rare bacterium can change industrial CO2 into chalk with the help of human scientists. It may not be a silver bullet, but perhaps it could be one more tool to keep future temperatures down.

 
It’s called Thiomicrospira crunogena, or T-Cru for short, and it produces an enzyme called carbonic anhydrase.

That substance reacts with water to convert CO2 into bicarbonate – which can then be used to make all sorts of products that don’t change the climate, like chalk and baking soda. The reaction is normally used to remove CO2 from organisms, but there’s a potential to use it in human industrial processes too.

T-Cru evolved on the sea floor near hydrothermal vents, where the pressure and heat are intense. That means the bacteria’s enzyme can work in equally extreme industrial environments, like when sucking CO2 from the flue gases produced by burning fossil fuels, according to Doug Bennett at the University of Florida Health.

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Credit: David McNew Getty images


A vent from the deep sea, a similar environment to the one T Cru is used to. [Image Credit: P. Rona/NOAA Photo Library]
The main idea is called sequestration, the capturing and neutralizing of the climate change gas CO2.

Exactly how that would work using the enzyme is what Professor Robert McKenna from the University of Florida and his two graduate assistants, Brian Mahon and Avni Bhatt, are trying to figure out.


The team’s findings, so far, have been published in two journals Acta Crystallographica D: Biological Crystallography and Chemical Engineering Science.

They also figured out that they can genetically engineer strands of E. Coli bacteria to produce Thiomicrospira crunogena’s valuable enzyme. That saves the trouble of going into the deep sea to try and collect the organisms.


Using the E. Coli, the team have produced several milligrams of carbonic anhydrase, and they believe they can ramp up production to the several kilograms that would be required for a practical application.

There’s still a major problem though – the enzyme doesn’t work fast enough. Avni Bratt explained further.


“You want it to do the reaction faster and more efficiently. The fact that it has such a high thermal stability makes it a good candidate for further study.”


The next steps are to increase the longevity and efficiency of the substance through testing different variants.

That’s something scientists like McKenna have been trying to accomplish for sometime.


As previously reported by the Inquisitr, progress on the policy has been picking up steam too. President Barack Obama and Chinese President Xi Jinping, leaders of the two biggest CO2 contributing nations, spoke informally about climate change plans and strategies on September 25th.

Part of the discussion was a cap and trade system, which China hopes to unveil in 2017. China has already rapidly decreased the amount of coal they use as the country’s renewable energy sector continues to boom. China’s switch from coal was likely a contributing factor to the halt in the rise of CO2 emissions in 2014, according to the BBC.


Likewise, the U.S. has pledged to cut carbon emissions by 26 to 28 percent below 2005 levels by 2025 and plans to make companies apply for permits for their emissions.

When those policies get underway, the value of a bacteria like T-Cru and its enzymes might start rising.


Although that may be a ways off, Prof. McKenna is confident about the potential of the deep sea bacteria and its enzyme as a tool against climate change.


“It shows that it’s physically possible to take known enzymes such as carbonic anhydrase and utilize them to pull carbon dioxide out of flue gas.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk_u3OrxWZQ
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Post by: zorgon on November 05, 2015, 02:39:46 am
River of Ice through Saudi Arabia with hail the size of golf balls


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNwpxqDnJqg
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Post by: space otter on November 05, 2015, 11:07:05 am


wow Z...luv'd this next headline  from Christian today..heh heh heh  ;)

'Hell freezes over' as ice storm sweeps Saudi Arabia desert

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/apocalyptic.signs.hell.freezes.over.as.ice.storm.sweeps.saudi.arabia.desert/69626.htm

Apocalyptic signs? 'Hell freezes over' as ice storm sweeps Saudi Arabia desert
Andre Mitchell    Published 04 November 2015



To many people, Saudi Arabia is a land of dry deserts where the sun shines bright and where the rain rarely falls.

Just recently, however, parts of Saudi Arabia experienced unusual hailstorms, thunderstorms and heavy rains, which turned deserts white and caused floods that have so far claimed the lives of 19 people.

A terrifying footage of the hailstorm, posted on the website of The Mirror, showed hailstones the size of golf balls raining heavily down at an alarming speed on the desert. The video clip has already been seen 50,000 times.

When the hailstones melted, the dry desert turned into a raging river of ice water. The amount of rain and hail that poured over Saudi Arabia in the past two days was estimated to be eight years' worth of precipitation.

Some residents also took to social media to post photos of the flooding, which turned a dry valley in a virtual body of water.

Others on social media, including Christian evangelicals, meanwhile expressed fears that the odd hailstorm and flooding in Saudi Arabia could be another sign that the end of the world is near.

"There was an ice storm in the desert. This surely is a sign that 'Hell freezes over'," one of the social media posters commented, as quoted by The Express.

Climate scientist Dr Abd al-Aziz al-Rubaie, however, explained that the hailstorm and heavy rains were caused by the seasonal low pressure area.

Unprecedented downpours were also experienced in the Middle Eastern nations of Iraq and Iran in the past days, with 50 people needing to be rescued by the government due to flooding. The flashfloods have also affected Syrian refugees in these areas.

Al-Rubaie also predicted that the precipitation may become even heavier in the coming days, especially in Yemen and Oman, due to Tropical Cyclone Chapla.?

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Post by: space otter on November 07, 2015, 09:49:28 am

maybe if we learn chinese and how to swim we'll be ok..bwhahahahahah

or heck.. just move to higher ground  ;)   I won't be around so what do I care.  :(



http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/new-york-prepares-for-up-to-6-feet-of-sea-level-rise/ar-BBmKSmJ?li=BBgzzfc



New York Prepares for Up to 6 Feet of Sea Level Rise
 


LaGuardia Airport is about to be rebuilt in New York City, but by the end of the century, fish could be swimming where airplanes once parked at the terminal. That’s because sea levels in the area could rise by as much as 6 feet over the next 75 years, according to new predictions released by the state of New York.


New York State environment officials announced Friday that they’re creating new sea level rise regulations that will help coastal communities build more resilient homes and other buildings that will be better able to withstand storm surges and other flooding made worse by rising seas driven by climate change.


The new regulations will require developers in New York City, along Long Island and on the shores of the Hudson River to prepare for sea levels that could rise between 15 and 75 inches by 2100.  At the far end of that scale, many of the areas hit hard by Hurricane Sandy — the Rockaway Peninsula and the shores of Staten Island, for example — could be underwater.

In addition to increasing temperatures and more frequent extreme weather, rising seas are expected to be among the most destructive effects of climate change. If greenhouse gas emissions are left unchecked, most of the U.S. population could be affected by rising seas, submerging some of America’s most famous icons, such as Wall Street, New Orleans and the Everglades.

About 500,000 people live on the 120 square miles of land that lie less than 6 feet above the mean high tide line in the state of New York. More than $100 billion in property value exists in that area.

The sea level rise projections were created as part of New York’s Community Risk and Resiliency Act of 2014, which requires the state to set official sea level rise projections for the end of the century. It also requires many building permit applicants to consider future flooding risks posed by rising seas.

The sea level rise range the state uses comes from a study conducted by Cornell and Columbia universities and Hunter College showing that rapid melting of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets could raise sea levels much faster and much higher than previously expected.

The study projects that sea levels could rise between 15 and 72 inches at Montauk Point on the eastern edge of Long Island, and between 15 and 75 inches in New York City. The level of the Hudson River near Albany, more than 150 miles inland from New York Harbor, could rise by up to 71 inches.

Cynthia Rosenzweig, study co-author and senior research scientist at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies and Columbia University's Center for Climate Systems Research, said the state’s use of the study ensures consistency between resilience planning at both the state and city levels because New York City’s climate change panel is using the same methods to determine the threat from sea level rise.

"The New York State sea level rise projections, developed using state-of-the-science methods, will provide the best available climate risk information for decision makers throughout the state,” she said.

Daniel Zarrilli, director of the New York City Mayor’s Office of Recovery and Resiliency, said in a statement that accurate science is critical to effective climate adaptation.

“These coordinated projections, which also inform the city’s investments, will support critical work of making investments in climate adaptation and resiliency across the entire state,” he said.
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Post by: zorgon on November 07, 2015, 01:51:26 pm
maybe if we learn chinese and how to swim we'll be ok..bwhahahahahah

or heck.. just move to higher ground  ;)   I won't be around so what do I care.  :(


http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/new-york-prepares-for-up-to-6-feet-of-sea-level-rise/ar-BBmKSmJ?li=BBgzzfc

That explains why Morgan Chase sold Chase Manhattan Plaza to the Chinese :P

Sell out while it still has value :P

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Post by: space otter on November 12, 2015, 07:47:19 pm

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/dramatic-retreat-seen-in-greenland-glacier/ar-BBmW2B0?ocid=ansmsnnews11

AFP
7 hrs ago

'Dramatic retreat' seen in Greenland glacier

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© Provided by AFP This NASA satellite image released on August 2, 2015 shows the edge of the Zachariae Isstrom glacier on Greenland?'s east coast

A major glacier in northeastern Greenland is rapidly crumbling into the Atlantic Ocean and experts warned on Thursday the breakup will likely raise global sea level by 18 inches (a half meter).

The glacier, known as Zachariae Isstrom, "entered a phase of accelerated retreat in 2012" tripling the pace of melting. It is now losing mass at a rate of five billion tons per year, said the study in the journal Science.

"The shape and dynamics of Zachariae Isstrom have changed dramatically over the last few years," said lead author Jeremie Mouginot, an assistant researcher in the Department of Earth System Science at the University of California, Irvine.

The glacier is dumping "high volumes of icebergs into the ocean, which will result in rising sea levels for decades to come," he said.

The findings are based on 40 years of satellite data from global space agencies as well as aerial surveys monitoring the shape, size and position of glacial ice over time.

Warmer ocean water is eroding the glacier from below, and increasing air temperatures are melting it from above.

"Zachariae Isstrom is being hit from above and below," said senior author Eric Rignot, professor of earth system science at UCI.

"The top of the glacier is melting away as a result of decades of steadily increasing air temperatures, while its underside is compromised by currents carrying warmer ocean water, and the glacier is now breaking away into bits and pieces and retreating into deeper ground."

Another large glacier near Zachariae Isstrom -- known as Nioghalvfjerdsfjorden -- is also melting but not as quickly because it is protected by an inland hill.

The study said the two glaciers "make up 12 percent of the Greenland ice sheet and would boost global sea levels by more than 39 inches if they fully collapsed."




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http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=4771

News | November 12, 2015

In Greenland, Another Major Glacier Comes Undone

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It's big. It's cold. And it's melting into the world's ocean.

It's Zachariae Isstrom, the latest in a string of Greenland glaciers to undergo rapid change in our warming world. A new NASA-funded study published today in the journal Science finds that Zachariae Isstrom broke loose from a glaciologically stable position in 2012 and entered a phase of accelerated retreat. The consequences will be felt for decades to come.

The reason? Zachariae Isstrom is big. It drains ice from an area of 35,440 square miles (91,780 square kilometers). That's about 5 percent of the Greenland Ice Sheet. All by itself, it holds enough water to raise global sea level by more than 18 inches (46 centimeters) if it were to melt completely. And now it's on a crash diet, losing 5 billion tons of mass every year. All that ice is crumbling into the North Atlantic Ocean.

"North Greenland glaciers are changing rapidly," said lead author Jeremie Mouginot, an assistant researcher in the Department of Earth System Science at the University of California, Irvine. "The shape and dynamics of Zachariae Isstrom have changed dramatically over the last few years. The glacier is now breaking up and calving high volumes of icebergs into the ocean, which will result in rising sea levels for decades to come."

Mouginot and his colleagues from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, California; and the University of Kansas, Lawrence, set out to study the changes taking place at Zachariae Isstrom.

The team used data from aerial surveys conducted by NASA's Operation IceBridge and satellite-based observations acquired by multiple international space agencies (NASA, ESA, CSA, DLR, JAXA and ASI) coordinated by the Polar Space Task Group. The NASA satellite data used are from the joint NASA/USGS Landsat program. The various tools used -- including a highly sensitive radar sounder, gravimeter and laser profiling systems, coupled with radar and optical images from space -- monitor and record changes in the shape, size and position of glacial ice over long time periods, providing precise data on the state of Earth's polar regions.

The scientists determined the bottom of Zachariae Isstrom is being rapidly eroded by warmer ocean water mixed with growing amounts of meltwater from the ice sheet surface. "Ocean warming has likely played a major role in triggering [the glacier's] retreat," Mouginot said, "but we need more oceanographic observations in this critical sector of Greenland to determine its future."

"Zachariae Isstrom is being hit from above and below," said the study's senior author Eric Rignot, Chancellor's Professor of Earth system science at UCI, and Joint Faculty Appointee at JPL. "The top of the glacier is melting away as a result of decades of steadily increasing air temperatures, while its underside is compromised by currents carrying warmer ocean water, and the glacier is now breaking away into bits and pieces and retreating into deeper ground."

Adjacent to Zachariae Isstrom is another large glacier, Nioghalvfjerdsfjorden, which is also melting rapidly but is receding at a slower rate because it's protected by an inland hill. The two glaciers make up 12 percent of the Greenland ice sheet and would boost global sea levels by more than 39 inches (99 centimeters) if they fully collapsed.

The sector where these two glaciers reside is one of three major marine-based basins in Greenland, along with Jakobshavn Isbrae in central west Greenland and the Petermann-Humboldt sector in central north Greenland. The latter two sectors hold enough water to raise global sea level by 2 feet (0.6 meters) each, and both are also undergoing significant changes at present. The authors conclude it is likely that Nioghalvfjerdsfjorden and Petermann-Humboldt glaciers will lose their ice shelves in coming years, further increasing Greenland's future contributions to global sea level rise.

"Not long ago, we wondered about the effect on sea levels if Earth's major glaciers in the polar regions were to start retreating," Rignot noted. "We no longer need to wonder; for a couple of decades now, we've been able to directly observe the results of climate warming on polar glaciers. The changes are staggering and are now affecting the four corners of Greenland."

In 2015, NASA kicked off a new six-year field campaign, Oceans Melting Greenland, which will examine ocean conditions around Greenland affecting the Ice Sheet. For more information on OMG, visit:

https://omg.jpl.nasa.gov/portal/

Ongoing research into the health of ice sheets and glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica is supported by funding from NASA's Cryospheric Sciences Program.

For more information on the study, visit:

http://news.uci.edu/research/massive-northeast-greenland-glacier-is-rapidly-melting-uci-led-team-finds/


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Post by: space otter on November 23, 2015, 02:39:23 pm



Viewers were treated to a rare moment of candor at the end of a recent PBS NewHour interview with Kenneth Cohen (above), ExxonMobil's vice president of public and government affairs.

NewsHour host Judy Woodruff pressed Cohen about an accusation New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman made during a taped interview that aired just before Cohen's segment. Schneiderman -- who had announced the week before that he was investigating ExxonMobil over whether it had misled the public and shareholders about climate change risks -- had charged that ExxonMobil funds climate change denier organizations to malign mainstream climate science.

"Has Exxon been funding these organizations?" she asked.

"Well, the answer is yes," Cohen replied. "And I will let those organizations respond for themselves."




the rest is here

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elliott-negin/did-exxonmobil-just-admit_b_8625514.html


Elliott Negin Become a fan
Senior Writer, Union of Concerned Scientists

Did ExxonMobil Just Admit It's Still Funding Climate Science Deniers?

  Posted:  11/23/2015 9:07 am EST    Updated:  1 hour ago


Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on November 28, 2015, 07:47:48 pm


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jvvv-WBaG8[/youtube]


http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34908482

COP21: Rhone Glacier drone footage shows ice retreat
26 November 2015 Last updated at 00:07 GMT

Diplomats and climate experts are to meet in Paris for the UN Conference on Climate Change, aiming to secure a new global deal that would limit emissions of carbon dioxide.

For many of us the impact of climate change can often seem distant and difficult to visualise - but that is far from the case in Switzerland.

There, a temperature rise of 2C in the last 150 years has led to a rapid acceleration in the melting of the country's glaciers.

If greenhouse emissions continue to rise according to current trends, all of the large masses of ice in the Swiss Alps will have almost vanished by the end of the century, scientists warn.

BBC video journalist Howard Johnson travelled to the Rhone Glacier, which has receded by 30m in the last year alone.

He met glacier expert Dr David Volken who set out the evidence for the ice sheet's retreat - and why the world should sit up and pay attention.


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The basic facts about climate change?

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-24021772

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Special report: Climate change

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34320399

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http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34915448
COP21: 2015 likely to be warmest on record, says UN weather body
By Matt McGrath
Environment correspondent, BBC News
25 November 2015


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The map shows how far this year's temperatures have deviated from the 1961-1990 average


Global average temperatures in 2015 are likely to be the warmest on record, according to the World Meteorological Organisation (WMO).

Data until the end of October showed this year's temperatures running "well above" any previous 12 month period.

The researchers say the five year period from 2011 to 2015 was also the warmest on record.

The rise, they state, was due to a combination of a strong El Nino and human-induced global warming.

The WMO said their preliminary estimate, based on data from January to October, showed that the global average surface temperature for 2015 was 0.73 degrees C above the 1961-1990 average.


Their scientists also found that global temperatures were approximately 1 degree C above the 1880-1899 period, mirroring a recent finding by the UK Met Office.

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'Bad news'

The record-breaking five year period from 2011 to 2015 was 0.57C above the average for 1961-1990.

The WMO said that levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere reached new highs. In the northern hemisphere, the spring of 2015 saw the three-month global average concentration of CO2 cross the 400 parts per million barrier for the first time.

"The state of the global climate in 2015 will make history for a number of reasons," said WMO secretary-general Michel Jarraud.

"2015 is likely to be the hottest year on record, with ocean surface temperatures at the highest level since measurements began. It is probable that the 1C threshold will be crossed.

"This is all bad news for the planet."
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The graph shows the divergence of annual temperatures from the 1961-1990 average

Other researchers agreed that the latest data from the WMO reinforces the view that human emissions of carbon dioxide, from burning fossil fuels, are continuing to heat the Earth beyond natural variability.

"The fingerprint of a warming planet is becoming clearer in nearly every corner of the world," said Dr Ed Hawkins, a climate scientist at the University of Reading.

"Moreover, 2015 is not a one-off, as indicated by the last five years' average also being the warmest on record.

"In the UK, our variable weather means that 2015 will not set any records for warmth, but the longer view shows UK temperatures have risen about 20% faster than the global average. We can expect this faster rate to continue in future."

As well as warming the land, much of the heat has gone into the oceans. The WMO said the waters have been absorbing more than 90% of the energy that has accumulated in the climate system from human emissions of greenhouse gases. The temperature of the tropical Pacific was more than 1C above average, consistent with a strong El Nino.

The WMO said this weather phenomenon has been a factor in pushing this year past previous records. El Nino has gained in strength over the past few months and has been rated as one of the three strongest since 1950.

The researchers said that the impact of an El Nino is typically felt more strongly in the second calendar year, meaning that 2016 is likely to be more strongly influenced by the event than 2015.

The record temperatures of 2015 were being felt in many different parts of the world. China recorded its warmest ever January to October period. For Africa, this year has been the second warmest on record.

Heat waves affected many parts of the world, with India seeing average maximum temperatures over 45C in some areas. There were also extremely hot periods in Europe, North Africa, the Middle East and elsewhere.

The WMO also argued that many of the extreme weather events in the past five years, especially those relating to higher temperatures, have had their probabilities substantially increased as a result of human-induced climate change.

The new findings are likely to feature prominently at COP21 in Paris next week, when global political leaders and negotiators will aim to secure a new global deal that would limit emissions of carbon dioxide.

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Post by: space otter on December 04, 2015, 08:48:26 pm


good lead in and the original article is very in depth with good drone footage..



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/marshall-islands-drone-footage-climate-change_565f0ae2e4b08e945fed82bf?utm_hp_ref=science&ir=Science&section=science

Damon Beres
Tech Editor, The Huffington Post ? ?
 
? 12/02/2015 04:46 pm ET

Drone Footage Shows The Harsh Reality Of Rising Sea Levels
"It gives you a scale you can't get anywhere else."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/marshall-islands-drone-footage-climate-change_565f0ae2e4b08e945fed82bf?utm_hp_ref=science&ir=Science&section=science



In the next 40 years, millions of people may lose their homes because of rising water levels brought on by global warming.

To illustrate this problem, The New York Times on Wednesday published startling footage of the Marshall Islands. Residents of the Pacific country deal with floods of saltwater and sewage as a result of rising seas. Staff photographer Josh Haner used a drone to capture shots of homes at the water's edge, where the shoreline is disappearing.

Haner previously used a drone to capture footage of Greenland's melting ice sheet, and he told The Huffington Post that he hopes the unique perspective provided by these flying machines will provide readers with a different way to think about climate change.

"Many of us have been dulled by images of melting glaciers and sinking islands, and we want to avoid using a drone just for the sake of using a drone," Haner said in an email. "But drone imagery here adds a new visual layer that hopefully draws readers into an important story gives them a new perspective on a complicated subject."

Residents are desperately working to avert damage to their homes by building makeshift sea walls. Needless to say, the footage of far-off vistas is striking, but Haner doesn't want that to be a distraction.

"We are also highly aware that we don't want the beauty of the footage to mask the severity of the problem. That's why we bring you different angles throughout the piece; some micro, some macro. It gives you a scale you can't get anywhere else," Haner said.

You can view the full New York Times feature here
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/12/02/world/The-Marshall-Islands-Are-Disappearing.html?_r=1
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Post by: space otter on December 23, 2015, 12:37:35 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/melting-arctic-ice-precipitation_56796ffde4b014efe0d6c7fa

Here's Yet Another Alarming Effect Of Melting Arctic Sea Ice
Scientists reveal why the influence melting sea ice has on precipitation could be bad.

? 12/23/2015 10:53 am ET
Jacqueline Howard
Associate Science Editor, The Huffington Post

Scientists have long known that the melting sea ice in the Arctic leads to more heat being absorbed by our planet, which can disturb the ecosystem.

However, according to a new study, published Tuesday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences,  there is yet another effect that vanishing ice has on our planet: The disappearing sea ice is linked to more precipitation in the Arctic.

This could impact the environment in a way that's comparable to doubling the amount of carbon dioxide in the global atmosphere, Ben Kopec, a Ph.D candidate in Dartmouth College's Department of Earth Sciences and lead author of the study, told The Huffington Post.

"As sea ice is reduced, ocean water is exposed to the atmosphere, leading to increased evaporation, and ultimately more precipitation," Kopec said. "The impacts of changing precipitation on the global climate system are significant."

The researchers collected measurements of the precipitation at six sites across the Arctic from 1990 to 2012. They took a close look at the chemical makeup of the precipitation samples to establish how sensitive the precipitation was to ice melt, the Christian Science Monitor reported.

Then, the researchers empirically compared that data to how the sea ice changed during the same time period.

The researchers found that as the sea ice shrunk 38,610 square miles, the percentage of moisture in the atmosphere increased by 18.2 percent in the Canadian Arctic and 10.8 percent in the Greenland Sea regions.

The findings not only confirm a link between ice melt and precipitation, but they also correspond with other findings that show that the environment may be adapting to warming temperatures, according to the researchers.

If the increased moisture in the atmosphere leads to snow, Kopec said, then the snowfall may have the potential to reflect more sunlight and actually reduce the amount of heat absorbed. But problems may arise if the moisture leads to rainfall. Not only would rain melt even more snow and ice in the Arctic but it could also stall the onset of autumn snow, which would lead to additional warming.

"Sea ice is declining at an alarming rate, so it is important to understand the consequences of the climate feedbacks caused by these changes," Kopec said in a statement. "We show that the loss of sea ice will likely increase precipitation, which will impact communities and ecosystems around the Arctic. The change of precipitation, depending on the seasonal distribution, may impact the energy balance on the same order of magnitude as the feedbacks associated with doubling carbon dioxide."

The new study supports the growing consensus that melting sea ice, caused by climate change, results in increased Arctic precipitation, Julienne Stroeve, senior research scientist at the National Snow and Ice Data Center at the University of Colorado in Boulder, told the Associated Press.

"At least statistically there's a correlation between less sea ice and more precipitation in certain parts of the Arctic," she said.
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Post by: space otter on December 28, 2015, 09:29:56 am


ah what irony...and cool brrrrrrr

http://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/amid-global-warming-north-america-has-a-new-glacier/ar-AAg2ozR?li=BBnbfcL
Condé Nast Traveler
Ken Jennings
11 hrs ago


Amid Global Warming, North America Has a New Glacier

 


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Many of the world's glaciers are shrinking today at unprecedented rates, say climate scientists. Glaciers that have been there for millions of years, and the ice that's been flowing through them for tens of thousands of years, are now melting. Glacier National Park in Montana may be entirely glacier-free within a decade. But let me introduce you to the world's newest glacier, which is still getting bigger every year. It's an oddity on a warming earth.

The eruption of Mt. St. Helens killed 57 people—and 12 glaciers.

It may seem surprising that there's a growing baby glacier in Washington State, but its location is even more surprising: inside the steaming caldera of Mt. St. Helens itself! When St. Helens was still a placid Fuji-like cone, it was covered with a dozen small glaciers, but that all ended on May 18, 1980, when the top 1,300 feet of the mountain were blown off in a massive eruption of rock and lava. It was the largest landslide in recorded human history.

A new glacier rises from the ashes.

When the dust settled, the summit of Mt. St. Helens was a horseshoe-shaped ridge, a shadow of its former self. But speaking of shadows: the new horseshoe opens to the north, which means a lot of the crater is well-shaded from the sun. By 1988, there was snow and ice in the crater year-round, and by 1996 it was carving crevasses into the crater rim—making it, by definition, a glacier. The flowing layers of ice and rock were soon 660 feet deep.

Glaciers can grow even amid an active volcanic inferno.

In 2004, a second, slower eruption began at Mt. St. Helens, and geologists assumed that the new ice field would melt, causing new mudslides. In fact, the opposite happened. Amazingly, the hot magma pushed up a 900-foot-high dome inside the crater, shielding the baby glacier even more effectively. All winter, snow and ice slides down the crater rim into the glacier, so it's still expanding—though recent hot summers have slowed its growth somewhat.

Almost no one can visit the glacier, and no one knows what to call it.

The glacier is still off-limits to hikers, except for those who pay a hefty fee for a guided tour to its base. Geologists from the U.S. Geological Survey are the only ones who get the real fun: the chance to rappel down 90 feet through the glacier's "Godzilla Hole" into a maze of tunnels where ice is sculpted into eerie shapes by hot volcanic gas venting from below. Washington (the state) still calls the glacier "Tulutson," using a local Indian word for ice, while Washington (the federal government) has officially (but boringly) dubbed it Crater Glacier. Let's hope the glacier sticks around long enough to have to settle this question of its name at some point.

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Post by: space otter on December 30, 2015, 08:29:22 am

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/weather/the-storm-that-will-unfreeze-the-north-pole/ar-BBo2Bxy?li=BBnb7Kz

The Atlantic
Robinson Meyer
8 hrs ago


The storm that will unfreeze the North Pole

The sun has not risen above the North Pole since mid-September. The sea ice — flat, landlike, windswept, and stretching as far as the eye can see—has been bathed in darkness for months.

But later this week, something extraordinary will happen: Air temperatures at the Earth’s most northernly region, in the middle of winter, will rise above freezing for only the second time on record.

On Wednesday, the same storm system that last week spun up deadly tornadoes in the American southeast will burst into the far north, centering over Iceland. It will bring strong winds and pressure as low as is typically seen during hurricanes.

That low pressure will suck air out of the planet’s middle latitudes and send it rushing to the Arctic. And so on Wednesday, the North Pole will likely see temperatures of about 35 degrees Fahrenheit, or 2 degrees Celsius. That’s 50 degrees hotter than average: It’s usually 20 degrees Fahrenheit below zero there at this time of year.

Winter temperatures have only snuck above freezing at the North Pole once before. Eric Holthaus, Slate’s meterologist, could not find an Arctic expert who had witnessed above-freezing temperatures at the pole between December and early April.

2015 is the warmest year ever recorded. Thirteen of the top 14 warmest years on the books have happened this century. And here in the United States, it has been a hot, strange month. Many cities across the northeast smashed their Christmas and Christmas Eve temperature records not at midday, but at the stroke of midnight. For the hundred-plus years that New York temperatures have been recorded, the city has never been warmer than 63 degrees Fahrenheit on a December 24. Yet at 1 a.m. on Christmas Eve of this year, the thermometer measured 67 degrees.

Some of this North American heat is a regular feature of every El Niño. (Indeed, I wrote about this El Niño-associated heat a few weeks ago.) But in the Arctic, this level of warmth is unprecedented. In order for this huge, hot storm to reach Iceland on Wednesday, it’s punching  right through the Jet Stream, the atmospheric “river” that brings temperate weather to Europe. Yet El Niño should typically reinforce this current, explains the climate writer Robert Scribbler—for the Jet Stream to weaken is a sign that something else is going on.

While institutional science will take years, if not decades, to confirm a correlation between human-forced climate change and strong North Atlantic storms, Scribbler believes that Wednesday’s insane warmth at the pole resembles the southern incursions of the “polar vortex” that have been seen in recent winters. These changes are related to human-forced climate change, he writes: a sign that something in the atmosphere has gone “dreadfully wrong.”
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Post by: zorgon on December 31, 2015, 05:10:17 pm
Yeah I saw this the other day  I have a map  hang on,,,

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This storm in the far North Atlantic is the same storm that caused two tornado outbreaks and widespread flooding in the United States. Now, it’s pushing temperatures at the North Pole well above average. (earth.nullschool.net)

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This story has been updated to include buoy measurements that confirm the North Pole temperature climbed above 32 degrees on Wednesday.

A powerful winter cyclone — the same storm that led to two tornado outbreaks in the United States and disastrous river flooding — has driven the North Pole to the freezing point this week, 50 degrees above average for this time of year.

From Tuesday evening to Wednesday morning, a mind-boggling pressure drop was recorded in Iceland: 54 millibars in just 18 hours. This triples the criteria for “bomb” cyclogenesis, which meteorologists use to describe a rapidly intensifying mid-latitude storm. A “bomb” cyclone is defined as dropping one millibar per hour for 24 hours.

NOAA’s Ocean Prediction Center said the storm’s minimum pressure dropped to 928 millibars around 1 a.m. Eastern time, which likely places it in the top five strongest storms on record in this region.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/12/30/freak-storm-has-pushed-north-pole-to-freezing-point-50-degrees-above-normal/
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Post by: space otter on January 04, 2016, 09:25:43 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/north-pole-warm-temperature_5684152ee4b014efe0d9cb7d?utm_hp_ref=science&ir=Science&section=science

12/30/2015 02:58 pm ET | Updated 4 days ago 
Michael McLaughlin
Reporter, The Huffington Post

North Pole Temperature Jumps Above Freezing From Bizarre Storms
It's unusually warm for being the North Pole.

Update (December 31, 2015): There has been some debate about how warm it actually got near the North Pole on Wednesday. One buoy maintained by the International Arctic Buoy Program recorded a high temperature of about 33-degrees Fahrenheit. But Dr. Jamie Morison, principal investigator for the North Pole Environmental Observatory, said in a statement that a buoy closer to the North Pole recorded a high temperature of only about 16-degrees Fahrenheit, which is still much hotter than average in winter.

"So in summary, the forecast warming was qualitatively pretty good even though temperatures at the Pole didn't reach up to the freezing point," he said.


The Washington Post, however, reports that data from the Global Forecast System (GFS) forecast model showed high temperatures at a latitude of 90 degrees North "for at least a brief moment" exceeding the melting point.

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A combination of rare and powerful weather conditions were predicted to raise temperatures at the North Pole to more than 50 degrees Fahrenheit above average on Wednesday.

The forecast appeared correct as a reading on a weather buoy drifting in ice near the pole climbed above the freezing point -- an almost unthinkable temperature for the Arctic in the middle of winter considering there's no daylight for weeks.

If the reading was accurate, it was warmer there than in some cities, such as Moscow and Chicago, The Guardian reports.

The bizarre, and in some cases cataclysmic, weather reached across other regions of the North Atlantic on Wednesday. Forecasts said hurricane-force winds would blast Iceland.

In fact, the storm threatened to be one of the most powerful on record in the North Atlantic.

One feature of the weather is a sudden and severe loss of barometric pressure. If it drops fast enough, it could unleash a phenomenon ominously called a "bomb cyclone," according to The Washington Post.

The low-pressure system disturbing the normal Arctic conditions is the same behemoth that produced devastating cyclones in the southern United States and triggered flooding along the Mississippi River in recent days.

Called Storm Frank in the United Kingdom, the heavy rain and strong winds are looming over the U.K., which is reeling from severe flooding there over the weekend.
Temperatures above freezing could halt, at least temporarily, the growth of winter ice, the BBC reported. Diminishing ice coverage is associated with rising sea levels and can be hazardous to low-lying coastal communities.

The Arctic is experiencing a period of rapid warming, according to a recent report from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. The region is heating up twice as fast as anywhere in the world, the 2015 Arctic Report Card notes, and its average temperature is 5.2 degrees higher than it was in 1900.


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Post by: space otter on January 06, 2016, 03:04:28 pm


with all of this warning I would move back from the waters edge if I lived  there




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/greenland-ice-melting-study_568c0e60e4b0b958f65d20ea?utm_hp_ref=science&ir=Science&section=science

01/05/2016 05:10 pm ET
Lydia O'Connor


Greenland's Melting Ice Problem May Be Far Worse Than We Realized
A new study shows climate change can undercut nature's way of protecting the ice.


Greenland's massive ice sheet may be in more serious peril from climate change than scientists previously thought, a new study has found.

Studies agree that rising global temperatures are causing the ice sheet that covers most of the world's largest island to shrink. If the entire ice sheet were to melt, global sea levels could increase by as much as 23 feet.

But in a study published Monday in the journal Nature Climate Change, researchers found that global warming is also undermining the ability of Greenland's "firn" to limit the effects of climate change.

The firn is the sponge-like snow pack atop the ice sheet, which traps and stores melting water that would otherwise run off into the oceans. It thereby helps to maintain the ice sheet in the face of the usual summer's warmer temperatures.

Past studies had concluded that the firn's storage capability was largely undiminished. But Greenland endured exceptionally warm summers in 2010 and 2012 -- in the latter year, it experienced "the largest observed melt extent" on record.

Now the latest study has found that the firn has become denser and less porous, making it far less absorbent
What happened? The researchers found that the greater amounts of meltwater from those warmer summers filled up the firn's pores and hardened into an impenetrable layer of ice. Consequently, meltwater in the following years couldn't be absorbed by the firn and "instead drained along the ice sheet surface toward the ocean."

As study author and York University researcher William Colgan explained in a press release, that finding "overturned the idea that firn can behave as a nearly bottomless sponge to absorb meltwater. Instead, we found that the meltwater storage capacity of the firn could be capped off relatively quickly."

The study is a reminder that we don't know all the ways that climate change is affecting our world.

"Basically our research shows that the firn reacts fast to a changing climate," said Horst Machguth, the lead researcher from the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland.

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Post by: zorgon on January 06, 2016, 05:33:17 pm

with all of this warning I would move back from the waters edge if I lived  there


Well the last time all the ice melted  THIS was the USA :P I would look up your state and decide if you need to invest in a rubber Dinghy... just in case :D

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Post by: space otter on January 12, 2016, 07:20:57 pm
iron..hummmmmmmm  8)




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/icebergs-climate-change_5695453be4b09dbb4bacc6f7?utm_hp_ref=science&ir=Science&section=science


? 01/12/2016 08:33 pm ET
Jacqueline Howard
Associate Science Editor, The Huffington Post


How Melting Giant Icebergs May Help Slow Climate Change (Just A Little)
Who knew?
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Eastcott Momatiuk via Getty Images

Water dripping off of icebergs in the Antarctic Ocean contains nutrients for phytoplankton, which can help absorb carbon dioxide.
 


Melting icebergs may be fighting against the very forces that cause them to melt, a new study suggests.

Water dripping off icebergs and into the Antarctic Ocean, also known as the Southern Ocean, contains iron and other nutrients, according to research published Monday in the journal Nature Geoscience. These nutrients fertilize phytoplankton, the microscopic marine life that plays a key role in oceanic ecosystems, and help the tiny plants absorb carbon dioxide in the atmosphere as they grow into plumes.

In other words, there might be even more carbon dioxide in our atmosphere if it weren't for the help of phytoplankton, said Dr. Grant Bigg, professor of earth system science at the University of Sheffield in England and lead author of the study.

"Previous research had shown that there was a fertilizing effect from iceberg meltwater but no one had looked at the giant icebergs in a systematic way before," he said. "The extent, and strength, of the fertilized phytoplankton plume was the big surprise."

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Satellite image of the Earth centered on Antarctica, showing the surrounding Antarctic Ocean.


For the study, Bigg and his colleagues analyzed 175 satellite images taken between 2003 and 2013 that show ocean water and at least 18-kilometer-long icebergs in the remote Antarctic Ocean. A greenish color of the water indicated high levels of phytoplankton productivity.

They noticed the colorful phytoplankton plumes in the photos extended hundreds of kilometers from giant icebergs and persisted for at least a month after the iceberg passed by. The researchers concluded that this biological process involving meltwater and phytoplankton may be responsible for up to 20 percent of the carbon that's stored in the deep Antarctic Ocean.

"The research is important as it has shown that there is more carbon stored in the Southern Ocean than previously calculated, which will have knock-on consequences for the global carbon budget," Bigg said. "It also demonstrates an unusual negative feedback on climate -- even if it is a secondary one and merely slowing climate change."

But this does not mean that meltwater and phytoplankton will save us from climate change, many scientists caution.

"I would hate for somebody to look at this and say, see it's a negative feedback, we can do whatever we want and it's not going to have an effect," Dr. Ronald Kaufmann, a marine and environmental scientist at the University of San Diego who was not involved in the study, told The Christian Science Monitor.

"This is moving the needle back in the other direction, there's no question about that," he said. "But...I don't think this is going to offset the burning of coal, for example."

After all, the relationship between the ocean and atmosphere remains complicated. Carbon dioxide may be absorbed by meltwater, but it can be released by seasonal warming of the water as well.

A separate team of scientists led by the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, plans to further investigate this month just how much excess carbon dioxide the Antarctic Ocean's icy waters are able to absorb.

"If we want to better predict the temperature in 50 years, we have to know how much carbon dioxide the oceans and terrestrial ecosystems are going to take up," Dr. Britton Stephens, a scientist at the center, said in a statement. "Understanding the Southern Ocean's role is important because ocean circulation there provides a major opportunity for the exchange of carbon between the atmosphere and the vast reservoir of the deep ocean."


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http://www.dw.com/en/giant-icebergs-slow-global-warming/a-18973873

Giant icebergs slow global warming
Researchers have found that the plume of cold water released from massive icebergs increases carbon storage in the seas - far more than previously thought. This negative feedback loop significantly slows climate change.



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Phytoplankton blooms in the wake of icebergs in the South Atlantic Ocean

It seems a paradox: giant icebergs, a symbol of climate change, can actually slow down warming of the Earth.

This is possible because the cold, mineral-rich water melting icebergs leave in their wakes nourishes phytoplankton. These tiny marine organisms take up carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, and when they die, sink to the ocean floor to create a literal carbon bank.

"When phytoplankton grow, they give off fecal matter and die, and some of that material sinks deep in the ocean, where it stays for centuries or millennia," explained study author Grant Bigg, an Earth systems professor at the University of Sheffield in England.

Particularly giant icebergs - that is, those at least 18 kilometers long - have this effect, due to the area covered.

Research for the paper, published in "Nature Geoscience," analyzed satellite images of giant icebergs in the Southern Ocean around the Antarctic, measuring the intensity of the color of chlorophyll produced by phytoplankton.

This "plume of productivity extends five to 10 times from the iceberg," Bigg said - meaning "the net carbon storage is much larger than suspected."

"It's essentially slowing the rate at which carbon dioxide is remaining in the atmosphere," Bigg told DW.

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Rising global temperatures are causing more icebergs to calve from ice sheets and ice fields

The concentration of atmospheric carbon is currently around 400 parts per million, and is increasing by roughly 2 ppm each year. "Giant icebergs have slowed that increase by 5 to 10 percent," Bigg said.

Antarctica is warming faster than other world regions, which is causing the ice sheet to melt and contributing to sea level rise. Warming there is often understood in terms of a positive feedback loop, where warming causes more ice to melt, thus accelerating further warming.

Some research indicates that warming in Antarctica has already reached a tipping point for melting, from which there would be no return.

The finding that melting icebergs can slow global warming was a surprise, as the scale of the phenomenon hadn't before been known.

"We still don't fully understand the climate system - I wouldn't be surprised if there were further both negative and positive feedback that could possibly accelerate or slow down global warming," Bigg concluded.



WWW links
"Nature Geoscience" paper on giant icebergs and marine productivity
http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ngeo2633.html



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Post by: space otter on January 20, 2016, 09:26:12 pm


get your fans ready...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/planet%e2%80%99s-heat-record-shattered-%e2%80%94-and-2016-likely-to-be-even-warmer/ar-BBou0Xw?li=BBnbcA1
San Francisco Chronicle
By Kurtis Alexander
7 hrs ago

Planet’s heat record shattered — and 2016 likely to be even warmer


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© Noaa, NOAA Last year was the planet's hottest since record-keeping began in 1880, according to NASA and NOAA.


Last year was far and away the hottest the planet has seen since at least 1880 when record-keeping began -- and 2016 is likely to be even warmer, federal scientists said Wednesday.

The historic heat, confirmed by both NASA and the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration, continues an alarming trend that climatologists say is driving shifts in worldwide weather with places like California saddled with less snow, rising seas and potentially more wildfires.

The NOAA data show average global temperature shattered the previous high set in 2014 by 0.29 degrees, a seemingly small bump but significant considering that increases have continued over several decades and show little sign of ceasing.

The planet'??s average surface temperature --?? 58.62 degrees last year -- is up about 1.8 degrees since the late 19th century, with most of that warming occurring in the past 35 years. Fifteen of the 16 hottest years have been observed since 2001.

Scientists cite greenhouse gas emissions from burning fossil fuels and deforestation as the primary cause of the heat. Last year also got a bump from El Niño, a cyclical warming of the Pacific Ocean that can lead to balmier temperatures elsewhere.

The same drivers are in play this year.

"??Because it's starting with a very strong El Niño and will kind of build during the year, 2016 is expected to be an exceptionally warm year and perhaps a record,"? said Gavin Schmidt, director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies.

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© Handout, AFP / Getty Images This illustration obtained from NASA on January 20, 2016 shows that 2015 was the warmest year since modern record-keeping began in 1880, according to a new analysis by NASAs Goddard Institute for Space Studies…
NASA and NOAA independently track temperatures at thousands of weather stations on land and water, from buoys in tropical seas to field equipment at the Earth'??s poles, and each analyzes the differences over time.

Both of the agency'??s data point to a roughly 0.25 degree rise in temperature in each of the past five decades.

In December, world leaders meeting in Paris reached a first-ever agreement to limit the planet's warming temperatures -- to 2.7 degrees, or 1.5 degrees Celsius, above pre-industrial levels. The new data show just how difficult that goal is.

"We don'??t have very far to go to reach 1.5," said Thomas Karl, director of NOAA's National Centers for Environmental Information.

Kurtis Alexander is a San Francisco Chronicle staff writer.E-mail: kalexander@sfchronicle.com Twitter: @kurtisalexander
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on January 20, 2016, 11:15:50 pm

get your fans ready...

No such thing as global warming :P
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on January 21, 2016, 09:28:30 am

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No such thing as global warming :P
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you are so right..bwhahahahahahaha..it's just the normal earth changes that we are only seeing cause we are at the point of movement....maybe we humans  make it - then it will only be history

http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/disappearance-of-bolivias-no-2-lake-a-harbinger/ar-BBov6km?li=BBnb7Kz

Associated Press
By CARLOS VALDEZ, Associated Press
8 hrs ago


14 pics at link

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UNTAVI, Bolivia — Overturned fishing skiffs lie abandoned on the shores of what was Bolivia's second-largest lake. Beetles dine on bird carcasses and gulls fight for scraps under a glaring sun in what marshes remain.

Lake Poopo was officially declared evaporated last month. Hundreds, if not thousands, of people have lost their livelihoods and gone.

High on Bolivia's semi-arid Andean plains at 3,700 meters (more than 12,000 feet) and long subject to climatic whims, the shallow saline lake has essentially dried up before only to rebound to twice the area of Los Angeles.

But recovery may no longer be possible, scientists say.

"This is a picture of the future of climate change," says Dirk Hoffman, a German glaciologist who studies how rising temperatures from the burning of fossil fuels has accelerated glacial melting in Bolivia.

As Andean glaciers disappear so do the sources of Poopo's water. But other factors are in play in the demise of Bolivia's second-largest body of water behind Lake Titicaca.

Drought caused by the recurrent El Nino meteorological phenomenon is considered the main driver. Authorities say another factor is the diversion of water from Poopo's tributaries, mostly for mining but also for agriculture.

More than 100 families have sold their sheep, llamas and alpaca, set aside their fishing nets and quit the former lakeside village of Untavi over the past three years, draining it of well over half its population. Only the elderly remain.

"There's no future here," said 29-year-old Juvenal Gutierrez, who moved to a nearby town where he ekes by as a motorcycle taxi driver.

Record-keeping on the lake's history only goes back a century, and there is no good tally of the people displaced by its disappearance. At least 3,250 people have received humanitarian aid, the governor's office says.

Poopo is now down to 2 percent of its former water level, regional Gov. Victor Hugo Vasquez calculates. Its maximum depth once reached 16 feet (5 meters). Field biologists say 75 species of birds are gone from the lake.

While Poopo has suffered El Nino-fueled droughts for millennia, its fragile ecosystem has experienced unprecedented stress in the past three decades. Temperatures have risen by about 1 degree Celsius while mining activity has pinched the flow of tributaries, increasing sediment.

Florida Institute of Technology biologist Mark B. Bush says the long-term trend of warming and drying threatens the entire Andean highlands.

A 2010 study he co-authored for the journal Global Change Biology says Bolivia's capital, La Paz, could face catastrophic drought this century. It predicted "inhospitable arid climates" would lessen available food and water this century for the more than 3 million inhabitants of Bolivia's highlands.

A study by the German consortium Gitec-Cobodes determined that Poopo received 161 billion fewer liters of water in 2013 than required to maintain equilibrium.

"Irreversible changes in ecosystems could occur, causing massive emigration and greater conflicts," said the study commissioned by Bolivia's government.

The head of a local citizens' group that tried to save Poopo, Angel Flores, says authorities ignored warnings.

"Something could have been done to prevent the disaster. Mining companies have been diverting water since 1982," he said.

President Evo Morales has sought to deflect criticism he bears some responsibility, suggesting that Poopo could come back.

"My father told me about crossing the lake on a bicycle once when it dried up," he said last month after returning from the U.N.-sponsored climate conference in Paris.

Environmentalists and local activists say the government mismanaged fragile water resources and ignored rampant pollution from mining, Bolivia's second export earner after natural gas. More than 100 mines are upstream and Huanuni, Bolivia's biggest state-owned tin mine, was among those dumping untreated tailings into Poopo's tributaries.

After thousands of fish died in late 2014, the Universidad Tecnica in the nearby state capital of Oruro found Poopo had unsafe levels of heavy metals, including cadmium and lead.

The president of Bolivia's National Chamber of Mining, Saturnino Ramos, said any blame by the industry is "insignificant compared to climate change." He said most of the sediment shallowing Poopo's tributaries was natural, not from mining.

In hopes of bringing it back, Morales' government has asked the European Union for $140 million for water treatment plants for the Poopo watershed and to dredge tributaries led by the Desaguadero, which flows from Lake Titicaca.

Critics say it may be too late.

"I don't think we'll be seeing the azure mirror of Poopo again," said Milton Perez, a Universidad Tecnica researcher. "I think we've lost it."

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Associated Press writer Frank Bajak contributed to this report from Lima, Peru.

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but hey no worries the money guys are already  checking out future money making spots




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http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-world-has-discovered-a-dollar1-trillion-ocean/ar-BBowEny?li=BBnbfcL
Bloomberg
Eric Roston
2 hrs ago

The world has discovered a $1 trillion ocean

As chairman of investments at Guggenheim Partners, Scott Minerd thought he had a realistic view on how big an economic challenge climate change poses.

Then, at a Hoover Institution conference almost three years ago, he met former U.S. Secretary of State George Shultz. Minerd recalled him saying: “Scott, imagine that you woke up tomorrow morning, and the headline on the newspapers was, 'The World Has Discovered a New Ocean.’” The opening of the Arctic, Shultz told him, may be one of the most important events since the end of the ice age, some 12,000 years ago.

And while Shultz’s spokesman couldn’t confirm the conversation, there’s no doubting the melting of the Arctic ice cap, and the unveiling of resources below, presents mind- boggling opportunities for energy, shipping, fishing, science, and military exploitation. Russia even planted its flag on the sea floor at the North Pole in 2007.



Energy and shipping have been first up. Norway made its national fortune drilling in northern waters, and Arctic fossil fuel exploration has become a more prominent part of U.S. energy policy. Melting ice means that in summer months, cargo can travel approximately 5,000 km from Korea to New York, rather than the 12,000 km it takes to pass through the Panama Canal. Warming waters also open up access to commercial fish stocks, making the Arctic a growing source of food.

Not long after that Hoover conference, Minerd joined a World Economic Forum advisory council. Its task? Develop guidelines for those nations looking to do business at the top of the world. That framework is to be released Thursday, in Davos.

“The history of economic development in regions of the world has really been fraught with a mass of mistakes,” said Minerd, who before Guggenheim worked at Credit Suisse and Morgan Stanley. “It really seems that someone needed to start developing a minimum standard, as a guide for economic development in the region.”

The Arctic Investment Protocol, developed by a 22-member WEF “global agenda council,” puts forward sustainability principles similar to initiatives developed for mature economies in recent years. The focus is long-term: tap the expertise of indigenous communities and treat them as commercial partners, protect ecosystems (even as rising temperatures change them before our eyes), and prevent corruption while encouraging international collaboration. The Arctic nations include Canada, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Russia, Sweden and the U.S., so there is a lot of collaboration to be had.

The WEF protocol seeks to address a region changing dramatically, and rapidly. Guggenheim, the first financial services firm to endorse the protocol, started its Arctic research about five years ago. That’s when Minerd made his first trip up north. Growing up in Pittsburgh, he saw first-hand how investment can help develop a community, and then just as quickly leave it to rust. The trick will be to avoid having the same thing happen to the Arctic.


Guggenheim has long provided infrastructure finance, because it’s an area that can offer long-term, stable returns. That’s partly why the firm was drawn to the Arctic. From there, researchers started looking into just what the region needed to become networked into the global economy.

The financial measure of opportunities available there is difficult to estimate, but $1 trillion may be a solid first- pass.


That’s the figure Guggenheim says may be needed to get the Arctic up and running in a manner that won’t deplete it in the long run. The figure is based on a list of public and private infrastructure projects already being planned. Not all of those efforts will even need outside investment, particularly in the energy sector.

The list isn’t meant to be an investment blueprint, but a research-driven assessment of what’s needed, Minerd said. Its purpose is to provoke discussion—and hopefully reasoned investment—in the region.

The Arctic guidelines are voluntary, like many other sustainable investment initiatives, including the Principles for Responsible Investment or even the WEF’s own work on “sustainable competitiveness.”


How does anyone expect to protect the Arctic environment in such a gold rush? The project is designed to complement the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals, and while the green earth is littered with do-good business pledges, the notion received a shot in the arm recently.


In December, almost 200 nations agreed in Paris to adhere to the first-ever universal climate goals. How nations contribute to progress toward them is their call, since there are no binding demands to cut greenhouse gas emissions. The Paris agreement will work—if it works at all—by relying on the soft power of international political consensus to encourage change, in business and government. Laying waste to the Arctic would seem to contradict that.

The next step for the protocol, Minerd said, is to encourage national and local governments, and financiers, to sign on. If those responsible for infrastructure-permitting and investment are on board, perhaps there’s a chance to develop the Arctic without destroying it.

Such an effort will require significant scientific observation, especially given how little data there is, and how few have ever lived north of 66 degrees.Jan-Gunnar Withner, director of the Norwegian Polar Institute and a member of the WEF group, said increases in shipping, mining or other natural resource harvesting will be at the mercy of a fast melting ice cap. The retreat of ice sheets has created a shifting seascape of shipping channels. Melting glaciers are spawning more pesky icebergs that can wreak havoc on container ships and drilling platforms.

The Arctic is warming faster than any other part of the globe, Winther says: “These changes are like nothing we have seen. We don't have anything to compare with in history.”





 
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Post by: space otter on February 06, 2016, 01:40:34 pm

http://www.takepart.com/article/2016/02/03/atlantic-ocean-now-acidifying-at-a-rapid-rate?cmpid=tp-ptnr-huffpost&utm_source=huffpost&utm_medium=partner&utm_campaign=tp-traffic
Feb 3, 2016
Emily J. Gertz is an associate editor for environment and wildlife at TakePart


The Atlantic Ocean Is Acidifying at a Rapid Rate

A new study finds it’s absorbing 50 percent more carbon than it was a decade ago, and that could have dire consequences for dolphins, whales, and other marine life.

Over the past 10 years, the Atlantic Ocean has soaked up 50 percent more carbon dioxide than it did the decade before, measurably speeding up the acidification of the ocean, according to a new study.

The paper, published Saturday in the journal Global Biogeochemical Cycles,
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2015GB005248/pdf
 “shows the large impact all of us are having on the environment,” Ryan Woosley of the University of Miami said in a statement. “Our use of fossil fuels isn’t only causing the climate to change but also affects the oceans by decreasing the pH.”

The burning of oil, coal, and natural gas for energy and the destruction of forests are the leading causes of the carbon dioxide emissions driving climate change. The amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has risen from 355 parts per million in 1989 to just over 400 ppm in 2015.

Decreasing pH in seawater can harm the ability of shelled organisms, from microscopic coccolithophores to the oysters and clams that show up on our dinner plates, to build and maintain their bony exteriors.

Researchers reported last year that acidification is also threatening to wipe out large populations of phytoplankton, the tiny ocean plants at the base of food webs that support fish, dolphins, whales, and other marine life.

Climate change is altering ocean chemistry in other ways as well. Scientists announced on Tuesday that the melting of the Greenland ice sheet is not only releasing huge amounts of freshwater into the Atlantic Ocean—slowing down an important heat-carrying ocean current—but may also be carrying about 441,000 tons of phosphorous into coastal waters.

The meltwater picks up the mineral as it flows along the bedrock at the base of the ice sheet, which is continually pulverized by the weight and movement of the ice.

“We find annual phosphorus input (for all of Greenland’s outlet glaciers) are at least equal to some of the world’s largest rivers, such as the Mississippi and the Amazon,” Jon Hawkings, a researcher at the University of Bristol, said in a statement.

This phosphorous flow could increase as the great melt of the Greenland ice sheet continues, Hawkings and his colleagues believe—and that matters because the mineral is a crucial nutrient in food webs.
They speculate that a richer supply of phosphorous in the Arctic Ocean could lead to increased plankton populations, which could help support more fish, birds, whales, and other marine mammals in both the Arctic and the subarctic.

Those regions, however, are acidifying along with the rest of the world’s oceans.

This post has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction 2/4/16: An earlier version of the photo caption in this article misstated the location of Gloucester Harbor. It is in Massachusetts.


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Post by: space otter on February 23, 2016, 08:25:32 am

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/study-reveals-acceleration-of-sea-level-rise-20055
Published: February 22nd, 2016
By John Upton


Study Reveals Stunning Acceleration of Sea Level Rise


The oceans have heaved up and down as world temperatures have waxed and waned, but as new research tracking the past 2,800 years shows, never during that time did the seas rise as sharply or as suddenly as has been the case during the last century.

The new study, the culmination of a decade of work by three teams of farflung scientists, has charted what they called an “acceleration” in sea level rise that’s triggering and worsening flooding in coastlines around the world.

The findings also warn of much worse to come.

The scientists reported in a paper published Monday in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that they have greater than 95 percent certainty that at least half of more than 5 inches of sea level rise they detected during the 20th century was directly caused by global warming.

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“During the past millennia, sea level has never risen nearly as fast as during the last century,” said Stefan Rahmstorf, a physics professor at Potsdam University in Germany, one of 10 authors of the paper. “That was to be expected, since global warming inevitably leads to rising seas.”

By trapping heat, rising concentrations of atmospheric pollution are causing glaciers and ice sheets to melt into seas, lifting high tides ever higher.

Globally, average temperatures have risen about 1°C (nearly 2°F) since the 1800s. Last year was the hottest recorded, easily surpassing the mark set one year earlier. The expansion of warming ocean water was blamed in a recent studyfor about half of sea level rise during the past decade.

Changes in sea level vary around the world and over time, because of the effects of ocean cycles, volcanic eruptions and other phenomenon. But the hastening pace of sea level rise is being caused by climate change.

“The new sea level data confirm once again just how unusual the age of modern global warming, due to our greenhouse gas emissions, is,” Rahmstorf said. “They also demonstrate that one of the most dangerous impacts of global warming, namely rising seas, is well underway.”

Were it not for the effects of global warming, the researchers concluded that sea levels might actually have fallen during the 20th century. At the very least, they would have risen far less than was actually the case.

A report published by Climate Central on Monday, the result of an analysis based in part on the findings in Monday’s paper, concluded that climate change was to blame for three quarters of the coastal floods recorded in the U.S. from 2005 to 2014, mostly high tide floods. That was up from less than half of floods in the 1950s.

“I think this is really a first placing of human fingerprints on coastal floods, and thousands of them,” said Ben Strauss, vice president for sea level and climate impacts at Climate Central. Strauss led the analysis, which also involved government and academic researchers.

Governments and communities have been slow to respond to the crisis of rising seas, though efforts to adapt to the changes underway are now being planned around the world.

“There’s a definite recognition among people who weren’t talking about sea level rise 5 years ago that it’s something to be concerned about,” said Laura Tam, a policy director at SPUR, which is an urban planning think-tank based in San Francisco. “And something that needs to be planned for.”

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A high-profile effort to track long-term changes in sea levels was based on analysis of sediment layers at a single location in North Carolina. Published in 2011, that study produced a chart of sea levels that bounced up and down over time, changing with global temperatures, and then ticked sharply upward as industrialization triggered global warming.

“North Carolina basically showed us that this could be done,” said Andrew Kemp, a sea level scientist at Tuft’s University. He was a co-author of both Monday’s paper and the paper published in 2011.

Monday’s paper combined the data from North Carolina with similar analyses from 23 other locations around the world plus data from tide gauges.

Rob DeConto, a professor at UMass Amherst who researches prehistoric climates, and who was not involved with the study, described the report as a “nice job” that “used a lot more data than anybody else has used in a study like this.”

The analysis goes further than explaining historical sea level rise. It includes worrying projections for the future.

By extending their findings to future scenarios, the scientists showed that the amount of land that could be inundated in the coming years will depend heavily on whether humanity succeeds in slashing pollution from fuel burning, deforestation and farming.

The Paris Agreement negotiated in December aims to do just that, with nations agreeing to take voluntary steps to reduce the amount of pollution they release after 2020. It could take decades, though, before that untested approach is revealed to have been a success, a failure, or something in between.

Even If humans quickly stop polluting the atmosphere, potentially keeping a global temperature rise to well below 2°C (3.8°F) compared with preindustrial times — a major goal of the Paris climate agreement — seas may still rise by an additional 9 inches to 2 feet this century, the study concluded. That would trigger serious flooding in some areas, and worsen it in others.

Under the worst-case scenario investigated, if pollution continues unabated, and if seas respond to ongoing warming by rising at the fastest rates considered likely, sea levels could rise more than 4 feet this century alone, wiping out coastal infrastructure and driving communities inland.

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The problem would be made far worse if the Antarctic or Greenland ice sheets collapse — something that’s difficult to forecast.

Their projections for future sea level rise were similar to those published in 2013 by scientists convened by the United Nations, following the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s most recent assessment of climate science.

They also closely matched projections that were coincidentally published in a separate paper in the same journal on Monday.

The similarity of the other papers’ projections “strengthens the confidence” in the findings, said Robert Kopp, a Rutgers University climate scientist who led the analysis.

The convergence of the findings in Monday’s papers was a “nice result,” said Matthias Mengel, a researcher at at Potsdam University who coauthored the other sea level rise study released Monday. He led a team of sea level scientists who took a different approach than Kopp’s team to projecting future sea levels.

Mengel’s team projected future sea levels by combining the results of models that anticipate changes to icebergs, ice sheets and ocean expansion in the years ahead, and used those findings to predict sea levels.

For years, different approaches to projecting future sea level rise have arrived at different results, but the gap has recently been closing, which Mengel described as “a really good sign for sea level science” — even if it’s ominous news for humanity.


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Post by: thorfourwinds on February 28, 2016, 11:03:33 pm
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Massive CO Clouds Over West Coast/Earthquake Watch!!

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Post by: space otter on March 04, 2016, 07:52:07 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/greenland-ice-climate-change_us_56d7c02be4b0000de4036b5b?ir=Science&section=us_science&utm_hp_ref=science

Nick Visser
General Assignment Reporter ?
 Jacqueline Howard
Senior Science Editor, The Huffington Post
03/04/2016 10:10 am ET



Greenland's Ice Sheet Is Filthy, And That's A Problem

Yet another sign that climate change is a major threat to our planet.

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An aerial image of Greenland shows rivers of meltwater and areas of dark ice. Greenland's surface is absorbing more solar radiation as melting increases grain size and brings old impurities to the surface.
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/why-greenland-dark-snow-should-worry-you
 

Scientists have long known that Greenland's surface is neither green nor snowy white like you'll find on a world map. Rather, many of the country's massive ice fields have morphed into an ugly grey-black you'd find on the side of the road a few days after a blizzard.

Now, a new paper links this darkening of Greenland's ice to a familiar culprit, climate change, and warns that the worst is yet to come as the planet warms.

The study, published Thursday in the journal The Cyrosphere,
http://www.the-cryosphere.net/10/477/2016/
 suggests that a "feedback loop" of melting ice in turn causes the once-white landscape to collect impurities like soot, where it then soaks up more heat and melts further.

"We knew that these processes had been happening," Dr. Marco Tedesco, a professor at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory and lead author of the study, told The Christian Science Monitor. "What’s new is the acceleration of the darkening, which started in 1996."
http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2016/0303/Why-is-Greenland-s-ice-sheet-getting-darker




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Dirty sea ice breaking up in Kulusuk, Greenland.


Due to the ongoing plight of climate change, the Earth has seen year after year of record-breaking warmth,
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/2015-hottest-year_us_568e9101e4b0a2b6fb6ef5eb
which can cause several seasons' worth of snowfall to melt. Additionally, soot from global wildfires or atmospheric dust that has settled year after year then gets concentrated on the ground as surrounding snow layers disappear. This mixture of melted snow and atmospheric dust causes the black appearance.

"You have impurities stored in the snowpack, and as you start melting in the snow, part of the impurities will be flushed away, and the other part will be basically standing on the surface," Tedesco told The Washington Post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/03/03/greenlands-vast-ice-sheet-is-getting-darker-heres-why-thats-really-bad-news/
 "Snow acts really like a filter. So the idea here is, the more you melt the snowpack, the more you will release these impurities on the surface of the snow, or the ice."

Other, less noticeable changes happen in another "feedback loop" when the melted snow and ice then refreezes into larger crystals that can absorb more solar radiation than before -- causing more melting.

"I call it melting cannibalism," Tedesco said in the Post. "You have melting feeding on itself."

For the study, the researchers analyzed satellite data to compare the reflectivity and darkening of Greenland's ice and snow from 1981 to 2012. White snow reflects more radiation from the sun, which keeps the ice cooler, while black snow absorbs radiation and leads to more ice melt.

The researchers also created a computer model to simulate the future of Greenland's surface temperature, grain size, exposed ice area and albedo.

They noticed that beginning around 1996, Greenland's ice began absorbing more solar radiation -- and they warn that the reflectivity of the ice could fall by as much as 10 percent by the end of the century, spurring further melt.

Tedesco and the paper's co-authors noted that the decrease in reflectivity could be stopped with a heavy bout of snowfall and less melting. But seeing as the world just had its hottest year on record in 2015, that option seems unlikely.

Scientists have long turned to Greenland to measure the impacts of climate change, since more than 650,000 square miles of the country are covered by a thick layer of snow and ice. Previous studies have shown that the ice sheets are shrinking at ever-increasing rates as glaciers retreat, and some scientists have warned the melt may soon become irreversible.

This drastic level of melt is the source of several climate-related doomsday scenarios that would force sea levels to rise dramatically, flooding many of the world's major cities. The new research sheds light on yet another process by which melting can occur.

"It’s worrying because if the ice sheet continues to get darker, it becomes more sensitive to atmospheric warming," Tedesco told The Guardian. "The impact of two weeks of sunshine with no clouds, for example, is far greater than it was 20 years ago. The ice is going to melt much more quickly, with more water flowing off on to the sea."



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Published on Mar 6, 2016
We've got a storm that might bring some parts of California over a foot of Rain & 5 feet of Snow. They say it is an atmospheric river. They are professional meteorologists, yo.

Rounds of heavy rain will heighten the risk of flooding and mudslides across California as storms persistently roll ashore into the second week of March.

Rain bypassed the state during most of February, but a shift in the weather pattern will steer storms into the California coast through Monday.

"Storms will usher in moderate to heavy rain across California and heavy snow to the Sierra Nevada [through Monday]," AccuWeather Meteorologist Brett Rathbun stated.

Over half a foot of rain could fall across northern California.

Across Southern California, a few gusty thunderstorms could accompany the rain on Monday.

Snow levels will fall throughout the weekend, allowing feet of snow to accumulate in the Sierra Nevada. Travel will be extremely difficult and dangerous through the mountain passes.

As these storms roll ashore, winds could gust up to 60 mph especially along the coast, potentially causing downed trees and power outages.

While this rain will help replenish depleted water reservoirs and put a dent in the long-standing drought, the large amount of rain in a short time frame may lead to hazards such as flooding, mudslides and debris flows.

Recent burn areas will be most susceptible to mudslides and debris flows, AccuWeather Western U.S. Weather Expert Ken Clark said.
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Post by: space otter on April 12, 2016, 10:31:50 am


ah thoughts of Cayce come to mind..




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earth-poles-climate-change_us_5706c52ee4b0537661892db4

04/11/2016 08:45 pm ET | Updated 2 hours ago
Jacqueline Howard
Senior Science Editor, The Huffington Post ?
 
Chris D’Angelo
Associate Editor, HuffPost Hawaii



Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift
Scientists solve mystery of why the planet’s axis is tilting eastward.



The position of Earth’s axis has dramatically shifted, likely because of melting ice sheets (fueled by climate change) and natural changes in water storage on land, according to a new study in the journal Science Advances.

Erik Ivins, senior research scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and co-author of the study published on Friday, told The Huffington Post that the movement of water on Earth’s surface affects the planet’s distribution of mass — and its axis — much like adding weight to a spinning top.

“If you considered a spinning top, and then placed a piece of chewing gum on the top, it would start spinning around a new axis,” Ivins said in an email. “On the Earth, since water can be transported in and out of the oceans to the land — affecting global mean sea-levels — this also changes the moments of inertia, in exact analogy to the piece of chewing gum on a spinning top.”

The shifting axis might add to the effects of climate change on our stressed-out planet: Global temperatures are getting hotter. Weather events are becoming more extreme. Sea levels are rising.

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Earth does not always spin on an axis running through its poles. Instead, it wobbles irregularly over time, drifting toward North America throughout most of the 20th Century (green arrow). That direction has changed drastically due to changes in water mass on Earth.


Earth, as many of us remember from grade school, spins on an axis. This axis is an imaginary line that stretches through the center of the planet from the North Pole to the South Pole, and is tilted at an angle of around 23.5 degrees with respect to the orbital plane that includes the sun and Earth.

Scientists have long known that Earth tends to wobble as it spins, causing its poles to drift slightly. However, a dramatic shift occurred around the year 2000, when the North Pole turned east.

In an attempt to understand why, Ivins and his colleague Surendra Adhikari analyzed space geodetic and satellite gravimetric data from 2003 to 2015. This data allowed the researchers to unambiguously identify the causal mechanism for the Earth’s drifting poles after 2003.

The researchers wrote in their study that the Earth’s spin axis has been shifting 75-degrees eastward from its normal long-term drift direction since the early 2000s. That shift, they found, is being driven not only by melting ice sheets, but also a loss of water mass in Eurasia due to the depletion of aquifers and drought, according to a NASA release.

“This is the first time we have solid evidence that changes in land water distribution on a global scale also shift which direction the axis moves to,” Adhikari, lead author of the study, told New Scientist.

Jonathan Overpeck, professor of geosciences at the University of Arizona, who was not involved with the study, told The Guardian that “this highlights how real and profoundly large an impact humans are having on the planet.”

While the findings are surprising, Ivins said, there is no need for alarm. The shift, he said, is relatively small, and there is no real chance that the amount of solar radiation reaching sensitive parts of Earth will increase.

“What the shift does tell scientists,” Ivins said, “is that we have a new tool to probe past climate changes in a very quantitative and accurate way. To us, that is significant.”




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Post by: funbox on April 12, 2016, 11:09:40 am

Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

should the adj be switched in that conjecture?


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Post by: space otter on May 03, 2016, 05:47:58 am
http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/resettling-the-first-american-%e2%80%98climate-refugees%e2%80%99/ar-BBsy4QS?li=BBnb7Kz
The New York Times
By CORAL DAVENPORT and CAMPBELL ROBERTSON
10 hrs ago


Resettling the First American ‘Climate Refugees’
 


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Isle de Jean Charles in southeastern Louisiana. A $48 million federal grant has been allocated to resettle its residents because of flooding.


ISLE DE JEAN CHARLES, La. — Each morning at 3:30, when Joann Bourg leaves the mildewed and rusted house that her parents built on her grandfather’s property, she worries that the bridge connecting this spit of waterlogged land to Louisiana’s terra firma will again be flooded and she will miss another day’s work.

Ms. Bourg, a custodian at a sporting goods store on the mainland, lives with her two sisters, 82-year-old mother, son and niece on land where her ancestors, members of the Native American tribes of southeastern Louisiana, have lived for generations. That earth is now dying, drowning in salt and sinking into the sea, and she is ready to leave.

With a first-of-its-kind “climate resilience” grant to resettle the island’s native residents, Washington is ready to help.

“Yes, this is our grandpa’s land,” Ms. Bourg said. “But it’s going under one way or another.”

In January, the Department of Housing and Urban Development announced  grants totaling $1 billion in 13 states to help communities adapt to climate change, by building stronger levees, dams and drainage systems.

One of those grants, $48 million for Isle de Jean Charles, is something new: the first allocation of federal tax dollars to move an entire community struggling with the impacts of climate change. The divisions the effort has exposed and the logistical and moral dilemmas it has presented point up in microcosm the massive problems the world could face in the coming decades as it confronts a new category of displaced people who have become known as climate refugees.

“We’re going to lose all our heritage, all our culture,” lamented Chief Albert Naquin of the Biloxi-Chitimacha-Choctaw, the tribe to which most Isle de Jean Charles residents belong. “It’s all going to be history.”

Around the globe, governments are confronting the reality that as human-caused climate change warms the planet, rising sea levels, stronger storms, increased flooding, harsher droughts and dwindling freshwater supplies could drive the world’s most vulnerable people from their homes. Between 50 million and 200 million people — mainly subsistence farmers and fishermen — could be displaced by 2050 because of climate change, according to estimates by the United Nations Institute for Environment and Human Security and the International Organization for Migration.

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“The changes are underway and they are very rapid,” Interior Secretary Sally Jewell warned last week in Ottawa. “We will have climate refugees.”

But the problem is complex, said Walter Kaelin, the head of the Nansen Initiative, a research organization working with the United Nations to address extreme-weather displacement.

“You don’t want to wait until people have lost their homes, until they flee and become refugees,” he said. “The idea is to plan ahead and provide people with some measure of choice.”

The Isle de Jean Charles resettlement plan is one of the first programs of its kind in the world, a test of how to respond to climate change in the most dramatic circumstances without tearing communities apart. Under the terms of the federal grant, the island’s residents are to be resettled to drier land and a community that as of now does not exist. All funds have to be spent by 2022.

“We see this as setting a precedent for the rest of the country, the rest of the world,” said Marion McFadden, who is running the program at the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

But even a plan like this — which would move only about 60 people — has been hard to pull off. Three previous resettlement efforts dating back to 2002 failed after they became mired in logistical and political complications. The current plan faces all the same challenges, illustrating the limitations of resettlement on any larger scale.

For over a century, the American Indians on the island fished, hunted, trapped and farmed among the lush banana and pecan trees that once spread out for acres. But since 1955, more than 90 percent of the island’s original land mass has washed away. Channels cut by loggers and oil companies eroded much of the island, and decades of flood control efforts have kept once free-flowing rivers from replenishing the wetlands’ sediments. Some of the island was swept away by hurricanes.

What little remains will eventually be inundated as burning fossil fuels melt polar ice sheets and drive up sea levels, projected the National Climate Assessment, a report of 13 federal agencies that highlighted the Isle de Jean Charles and its tribal residents as among the nation’s most vulnerable.

Already, the homes and trailers bear the mildewed, rusting scars of increasing floods. The fruit trees are mostly gone or dying thanks to saltwater in the soil. Few animals are left to hunt or trap.

Violet Handon Parfait sees nothing but a bleak future in the rising waters. She lives with her husband and two children in a small trailer behind the wreckage of their house, which Hurricane Gustav destroyed in 2008.

The floods ruined the trailer’s oven, so the family cooks on a hot plate. Water destroyed the family computer, too. Ms. Parfait, who has lupus, is afraid of what will happen if she is sick and cannot reach a doctor over the flooded bridge.

Ms. Parfait, who dropped out of high school, hopes for a brighter future, including college, for her children, Heather, 15, and Reggie, 13. But the children often miss school when flooding blocks their school bus.

“I just want to get out of here,” she said.

Still, many residents of Isle de Jean Charles do not want to leave. Attachment to the island runs deep. Parents and grandparents lived here; there is a cemetery on the island that no one wants to abandon. Old and well-earned distrust of the government hangs over all efforts, and a bitter dispute between the two Indian tribes with members on the island has thwarted efforts to unite behind a plan.

“Ain’t nobody I talk to that wants to move,” said Edison Dardar, 66, a lifelong resident who has erected handwritten signs at the entrance to the island declaring his refusal to leave. “I don’t know who’s in charge of all this.”

Whether to leave is only the first of the hard questions: Where does everyone go? What claim do they have to what is left behind? Will they be welcomed by their new neighbors? Will there be work nearby? Who will be allowed to join them?

“This is not just a simple matter of writing a check and moving happily to a place where they are embraced by their new neighbors,” said Mark Davis, the director of the Tulane Institute on Water Resources Law and Policy.

“If you have a hard time moving dozens of people,” he continued, “it becomes impossible in any kind of organized or fair way to move thousands, or hundreds of thousands, or, if you look at the forecast for South Florida, maybe even millions.”

Louisiana officials have been coping with some of the fastest rates of land loss in the world — an area the size of Delaware has disappeared from south Louisiana since the 1930s. A master plan that is expected to cost tens of billions of dollars envisions a giant wall of levees and flood walls along the coast.

But some places, like the island, would be left on the outside. For those communities, wholesale relocation may be an effective tool, if a far more difficult and costly one.

“That’s one of the things we need to learn from the creation of this model, which is how to do it economically,” said Pat Forbes, the executive director of the state’s Office of Community Development, the agency in charge of administering the federal climate grant.

A vast majority of the $1 billion disaster-resilience grant program is spent on projects to improve infrastructure, like stronger roads, bridges, dams, levees and drainage systems, to withstand rising seas and stronger storms.

But experts see places like Isle de Jean Charles as lost causes.

“We are very cognizant of the obligation to taxpayers to not throw good money after bad,” Ms. McFadden of the Department of Housing and Urban Development said. “We could give the money to the island to build back exactly as before, but we know from the climate data that they will keep getting hit with worse storms and floods, and the taxpayer will keep getting hit with the bill.”

With door-to-door visits, the state is only beginning to find out what the residents want in a new plan, Mr. Forbes said.

The location of the new community has not been chosen. Chiefs of the two tribes present on the island — the Biloxi-Chitimacha-Choctaw and the United Houma Nation — have debated who would be allowed to live there beyond the islanders themselves, and whether some islanders could resettle elsewhere. One of the planners involved in the resettlement suggested a buffer area between the new community and its surrounding neighborhood to reduce tension. Chief Naquin wants a live buffalo on site.

What has been decided, and what was essential for the islanders’ support, is that the move be voluntary.

“I’ve lived my whole life here, and I’m going to die here,” said Hilton Chaisson, who raised 10 sons on the island and wants his 26 grandchildren to know the same life of living off the land.

He conceded that the flooding has worsened, but, he said, “we always find a way.”
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Post by: thorfourwinds on May 04, 2016, 09:03:19 pm
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The Earth is Entering Halley's Comet Debris Field - YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL8vOJrgrBo)

BPEarthWatch
Published on May 4, 2016

METEORS FROM HALLEY'S COMET:
Earth is entering a stream of debris from Halley's Comet, source of the annual eta Aquariid meteor shower. Forecasters expect the shower to peak on the nights around May 5th and 6th with 30+ meteors per hour. The best time to look, no matter where you live, is probably during the dark hours before sunrise on Friday.

Got clouds? No problem. You can still experience this meteor shower by listening to it. Meteor radar echoes are being streamed live on Space Weather Radio, http://spaceweatherradio.com/ and http://www.livemeteors.com/ Solar and Quake Links @ http://www.BPEarthWatch.Com

Debris from Halley's Comet:
The eta Aquarid Meteor Shower
SpaceWeather.com

The 2016 eta Aquarid meteor shower peaks on the nights around May 5th and 6th. The shower can be seen from both hemispheres, but the southern hemisphere is favored with twice as many meteors as the northern hemisphere--60 meteors per hour in the south vs. 30 per hour in the north. The best time to look, no matter where you live, is during the hours just before local sunrise.

astronomy binoculars
Eta Aquarids are flakes of dust from Halley's Comet, which last visited Earth in 1986. Although the comet is now far away, beyond the orbit of Uranus, it left behind a stream of dust. Earth passes through the stream twice a year in May and October. In May we have the eta Aquarid meteor shower, in October the Orionids. Both are caused by Halley's Comet.

The shower is named after a 4th-magnitude star in the constellation Aquarius. The star has nothing to do with the meteor shower except that, coincidentally, meteors appear to emerge from a point nearby. Eta Aquarii is 156 light years from Earth and 44 times more luminous than the Sun.

The constellation Aquarius does not rise very far above the horizon in the northern hemisphere, and that's why northerners see relatively few meteors. But the ones they do see could be spectacular Earthgrazers.

Earthgrazers are meteors that skim horizontally through the upper atmosphere. They are slow and dramatic, streaking far across the sky. The best time to look for Earthgrazers is between 2:00 to 2:30 a.m. local time when Aquarius is just peeking above the horizon.

Experienced meteor watchers suggest the following viewing strategy: Dress warmly. Bring a reclining chair, or spread a thick blanket over a flat spot of ground. Lie down and look up somewhat toward the east. Meteors can appear in any part of the sky, although their trails will point back toward Aquarius.

Tidbits:
    Eta Aquarid meteoroids hit Earth's atmosphere traveling 66 km/s (147,638 mph).
    Typical eta Aquarid meteors are as bright as a 3rd magnitude star.
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Post by: thorfourwinds on May 06, 2016, 12:23:28 pm
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SAN ANDREAS/EXTREME PRESSURE/ 5.6 Quake - 247km SW of Tomatlan, Mexico - YouTube[/url)

Published on May 5, 2016
Scientists are Now Warning of Over 100 Years of Back Pressure building along the 800 Miles of the San Andreas Fault Zone in California.
Solar and Quake Links @ http://www.BPEarthWatch.Com
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Post by: space otter on May 07, 2016, 10:09:18 am
http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/sea-level-rise-claims-five-islands-in-solomons-study/ar-BBsJQqk?li=BBnb7Kz

AFP
10 hrs ago

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© Provided by AFP At least 11 islands across the northern Solomon Islands have either totally disappeared over recent decades or are currently experiencing severe erosion, an Australian study shows 

Five islands have disappeared in the Pacific's Solomon Islands due to rising sea levels and coastal erosion, according to an Australian study that could provide valuable insights for future research.

A further six reef islands have been severely eroded in the remote area of the Solomons, the study said, with one experiencing some 10 houses being swept into the sea between 2011 and 2014.

"At least 11 islands across the northern Solomon Islands have either totally disappeared over recent decades or are currently experiencing severe erosion," the study published in Environmental Research Letters said.

"Shoreline recession at two sites has destroyed villages that have existed since at least 1935, leading to community relocations."

The scientists said the five that had vanished were all vegetated reef islands up to five hectares (12 acres) that were occasionally used by fishermen but not populated.

"They were not just little sand islands," leader author Simon Albert told AFP.

It is feared that the rise in sea levels will cause widespread erosion and inundation of low-lying atolls in the Pacific.

Albert, a senior research fellow at the University of Queensland, said the Solomons was considered a sea-level hotspot because rises there are almost three times higher than the global average.

The researchers looked at 33 islands using aerial and satellite imagery from 1947 to 2014, combined with historical insight from local knowledge.

They found that rates of shoreline recession were substantially higher in areas exposed to high wave energy, indicating a "synergistic interaction" between sea-level rise and waves, which Albert said could prove useful for future study.

Those islands which were exposed to higher wave energy -- in addition to sea-level rise -- were found to have a greatly accelerated loss compared with the more sheltered islands.

"This provides a bit of an insight into the future," he said.

"There's these global trends that are happening but the local responses can be very, very localised."

For now, some communities in the Solomons are already adapting to the changed conditions.

"In addition to these village relocations, Taro, the capital of Choiseul Province is set to become the first provincial capital globally to relocate residents and services due to the threat of sea-level rise," the study said.


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http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/08/18/3472645/pacific-island-town-relocate-climate-change/


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http://www.smh.com.au/interactive/2015/the-vanishing-island/


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Post by: space otter on May 14, 2016, 07:14:50 am

ah just another side of the ice melting...sigh...i'm getting real close to turning off all media and just growing my veggies....sigh


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elena-e-giorgi/ice-caps-melt-prehistoric_b_9805334.html

THE BLOG
Ice Caps Melt, Prehistoric Virus Escapes. No, It’s Not a Movie.
 05/13/2016 03:58 pm ET

Elena E. Giorgi
Scientist, Photographer, and Writer

A couple of months ago I talked about the connection between global warming and the Zika virus. Today I would like to discuss another interesting side effect we might observe in the next decades thanks to global warming. The ice caps will melt. Big deal, we already knew that. But have you ever thought of the stuff trapped in that ice that’s going to thaw? What if some of that stuff isn’t really dead, just dormant, waiting to come back? Sounds like fiction, but it’s not.

Up until a few years ago the general notion was that viruses were small. How small? Let’s think in terms of genome units: viruses usually carry a handful of genes, either coded into DNA or RNA, and you can think of these as longs strings of four letters: A, C, T (or U if it’s RNA), or G. The letters are called nucleotides, and the genome of most common viruses is typically in the order of tens of thousands of nucleotides long. By comparison, the human genome, with its 3 billion nucleotides, is enormous.

The notion of viruses being “small” compared to living cells was turned upside down with the discovery of megaviruses in 2010 (over one million bases) and, in 2013, of the pandoraviruses, a family of viruses that can reach a staggering 2.5 million bases in genome size.

Before you freak out: so far these gigantic viruses have only been found in unicellular organisms called amoebas, not in humans or any other animals. Amoebas acquire their nutrients through phagocytosis and that’s also how the gigantic viruses infect them: the cell membrane forms a vesicle around the viral particle and engulfs it.

Two specimens of pandoraviruses have been found in shallow water sediments, one in Chile and the other one in Australia. They were both so big that they could be seen with just an optical microscope, reaching 1 ?m in length and 0.5 ?m in diameter. The researchers found over 2,000 genes in these pandoraviruses, of which over 90% looked nothing like any other previously known gene. In fact, they appear to be unrelated to the previously discovered megaviruses. So what are they? A fourth domain of life? A completely isolated niche in the tree of life? Or could they be — as the sci-fi writer in me wants to think — the remnants of a completely different form of life, one that existed so long ago that these gigantic particles are all there is left of it?

I thought I was original when I raised that hypothesis, but I wasn’t. The researchers who’d first discovered the pandoraviruses posed the exact same question and, in order to find an answer, they went digging through fossils. They took a sample of Siberian permafrost layer (corresponding to late Pleistocene sediments older than 30,000 years) and used it to inoculate a particular culture of amoebas (called Acanthamoeba castellanii). Lo and behold, they indeed observed particles of a prehistoric giant virus multiplying in the amoeba culture, making it the most ancient eukaryote-infecting DNA virus revived to date! The observed viral particles were examined through transmission electron microscopy and found to have many similarities with the pandoraviruses, only they were even bigger.

The researchers named the giant virus pithovirus and hypothesized that there may be more gigantic viruses frozen out there that could be released from the ice as global warming takes over. Unlike pandoraviruses, though, these pithoviruses showed many more similarities to present-day viruses that normally infect humans and animals. This prompted the researchers to raise the alarm: the average temperature of the surface of the Arctic permafrost has increased by 3 °C during the past 100 years, faster than the average global temperature. Could there be more pathogens lurking in there waiting to be released again?

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I think I just got an idea for the my next post-apocalyptic thriller.

References

Philippe, N., Legendre, M., Doutre, G., Coute, Y., Poirot, O., Lescot, M., Arslan, D., Seltzer, V., Bertaux, L., Bruley, C., Garin, J., Claverie, J., & Abergel, C. (2013). Pandoraviruses: Amoeba Viruses with Genomes Up to 2.5 Mb Reaching That of Parasitic Eukaryotes Science, 341 (6143), 281-286 DOI: 10.1126/science.1239181

Legendre, M., Bartoli, J., Shmakova, L., Jeudy, S., Labadie, K., Adrait, A., Lescot, M., Poirot, O., Bertaux, L., Bruley, C., Coute, Y., Rivkina, E., Abergel, C., & Claverie, J. (2014). Thirty-thousand-year-old distant relative of giant icosahedral DNA viruses with a pandoravirus morphology Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 111 (11), 4274-4279 DOI: 10.1073/pnas.1320670111
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Post by: funbox on May 14, 2016, 07:20:34 am
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ah just another side of the ice melting...sigh...i'm getting real close to turning off all media and just growing my veggies....sigh

if only Otters could curb their inquisitiveness eh :D

funbox
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Post by: space otter on May 14, 2016, 07:24:00 am
 ;)

 :o

 ::)

anything is possible.. especially since i have curbed my desire to smack certain others who bug me on forums by just ignoring them...mostly

bwhahahahahahahahahah

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Post by: funbox on May 14, 2016, 07:27:46 am
;)

 :o

 ::)

anything is possible.. especially since i have curbed my desire to smack certain others who bug me on forums by just ignoring them...mostly

bwhahahahahahahahahah

the speed at which you move about this forum, one cares not for blinking, im certain they don't even know the blow has landed , or perceive  that mildly lingering fishy odour that appears like lightning afterwards

funbox
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on May 14, 2016, 07:36:47 am


mildly lingering fishy odour

that's the best you can come up with  in your self proclaimed word-smithing...tsk tsk

guess i ate those lily-of-the-valley for nothing this morning...sigh

garden time
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: funbox on May 14, 2016, 07:42:45 am

mildly lingering fishy odour

that's the best you can come up with  in your self proclaimed word-smithing...tsk tsk

guess i ate those lily-of-the-valley for nothing this morning...sigh

garden time

indeed it is.. but I didn't know that shrubs helped in an otters digestion...?

you are an otter, aren't you ?

funbox
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Post by: space otter on May 14, 2016, 10:29:03 am



since you ask
 
no I am NOT an otter..silly boy.. otter is just one of my spirit totems I wish to personify..
I used to be sky otter but broadened my scope and became space otter (on line)
 
 (just so you will know) this is a quote
otter is very curious and will not start a fight unless attacked first.. otter is friendly and believes other creatures are friendly unless proven otherwise.. otters energy creates space for others to enter their lives without preconceptions or suspicious
 

so I use one of my spirit totems as a balanced female energy
the avatar I found was of an otter waving and then  a another with space helmets
I thought the avatar representation was true
as is the lack of avatar now
oh fyi one of my other spirit totems is a badger..just so you know I have more than one side

I do hope your avatar isn’t a true portrait of your intent on line
but the way you chase people around pecking at them  maybe you should change it to angry bird


now for clarity
lily of the valley, sometimes written lily-of-the-valley,
scientific name Convallaria majalis /?k?nv??l??ri? m??d?e?l?s/,
is a sweetly scented, highly poisonous woodland flowering plant
that is native throughout the cool temperate Northern Hemisphere
 
to me irony here is funny 

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: funbox on May 14, 2016, 10:53:29 am
then you must also like mashpotatoe

[youtube]SAeRHAjzyeE[/youtube]

funbox
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Post by: space otter on June 21, 2016, 05:57:47 am


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/environmentalists-killed-2015_us_57678e8ee4b015db1bc9be9a?section=
 06/20/2016 10:43 am ET
Nick Visser
Reporter, The Huffington Post


Record Number Of Environmentalists Killed Last Year For Defending The Planet
On average, more than three were killed per week, a watchdog group found.

For those tasked with the protection of our planet, 2015 was a year steeped in blood.

At least 185 land and environmental defenders, those who take peaceful action to protect natural resources, were killed in 2015, according to a new report released Monday. Those figures, the highest ever documented by the watchdog group Global Witness, represent a stark increase of nearly 60 percent from just a year earlier and an average death rate of more than three people per week.

“The environment is emerging as a new battleground for human rights,” the report, “On Dangerous Ground,” reads.

More than half of those killed came from just three countries, Brazil had 50 deaths, the Philippines, 33, and Colombia, 26. All are home to fierce battles between indigenous residents and corporations engaged in environment-harming enterprises like logging, mining and the expansion of plantations.


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“What we’re seeing is an increasing scramble for environmental prizes,” Billy Kyte, campaign leader for Global Witness, told The Huffington Post earlier this year. “Corporations are entering more remote areas where they get more bang for their buck, and they’re encroaching on indigenous land.”

Mining enterprises have been linked to at least 42 of these deaths, agriculture and logging another 20 and 15, respectively. The report found indigenous groups were particularly vulnerable to violence, accounting for 40 percent of those killed last year.

While the number of activists killed has increased since last year, the report notes the official 185 figure represents only reported deaths. The actual figure is likely “far higher,” the paper notes, citing war-torn regions in Africa and South Asia that have little oversight but likely violent political retribution over environmental advocacy.

Sadly, even the reported deaths often go uninvestigated and unpunished, according to the report, which chronicles the shooting of two prominent advocates in the Philippines.  Filipino activist Michelle Campos saw both her father and grandfather, fierce opponents of encroaching mining interests, killed in front of their family by paramilitary groups linked to the military.

“They told us to leave our community in two days or else they will finish us all,” Campos wrote in a letter published by The Philippine Reporter. “They killed Onel, my father and our chairperson. They shot him in the head in front of our community, in front of my three younger siblings.”

About 3,000 people were forced to leave their homes following the incident, and although several suspects have been identified, no arrests have been made.

Campos’ story is a common narrative around the world. Other examples include the death of a Guatemalan teacher who helped close a palm oil plantation and the shooting of a land defender in Myanmar.

The report also comes just months after the death of Berta Cáceres, a high-profile environmentalist who for decades worked to defend indigenous land rights in Honduras. That country was the deadliest in which to conduct such work from 2010 to 2015, though it ranked eighth in 2015 alone. Cáceres, a winner of the prestigious Goldman Environmental Prize for grassroots activism, was gunned down in her home after receiving death threats for years.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR1kwx8b0ms[/youtube]


In her speech last year upon receiving the Goldman Prize, Cáceres called on humanity to act on the urgent need for protection. She dedicated the award to those “who gave their lives in the struggle to defend our natural resources.”

“Let us wake up. Let us wake up, humankind,” she said. “We’re out of time.”
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: A51Watcher on June 21, 2016, 07:27:43 pm


Sky sounds like those countries may be fighting more than they realize.



[youtube]yTbdnNgqfs8[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbdnNgqfs8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbdnNgqfs8)


Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Dyna on June 22, 2016, 10:26:02 am
Man-made pollutants found in Earth's deepest ocean trenches
June 21, 2016
WASHINGTON, June 21 (UPI) -- Even the creatures living in Earth's deepest oceanic trenches aren't safe from man-made toxins. New research has revealed surprisingly significant concentrations of pollutants among deep-sea species.

Shrimp-like crustaceans called amphipods were collected from water depths between 23,000 and 33,000 feet.

Sizable concentrations of polychlorinated biphenyls, or PCBs, and polybrominated diphenyl ethers, or PBDEs, were found in amphipods from both trenches.
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2016/06/21/Man-made-pollutants-found-in-Earths-deepest-ocean-trenches/6951466521352/?spt=sec&or=sn
 :(
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 05, 2016, 12:37:28 pm
Climate Chaos GLOBAL EMERGENCY: 'Jet Stream Shift Threatens Food Supplies' - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIms0NE21E0)

Published on Jul 4, 2016
GLOBAL WEATHER EMERGENCY WARNINGS
'Jet stream shift from North to South Threatens Food Supplies' End of Winter and Changing Seasons.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on July 09, 2016, 11:44:47 am

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/marshall-islands-climate-refugees_us_577e7996e4b01edea78cc4bc?section=

 07/07/2016 03:17 pm ET
Renee Lewis Refugees Deeply

Marshall Islanders Set To Become Climate Refugees Before International Law Can Catch Up
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BIKINI ATOLL LOCAL GOVERNMENT/ASSOCIATED PRESS
A woman and a child walk through knee-deep water to reach their home during a king tide event on Kili in the Marshall Islands in January 2015.
As warming seas climb their shores, Marshall Islanders face becoming climate refugees before the international community can decide what rights, if any, that status confers.

Sandbags surround the Majuro airstrip while hurriedly-built bridges span flooded sections of road, and many Marshall Islanders have built seawalls to protect their homes on this remote nation in the Pacific Ocean.

The Marshall Islands are made up of five main islands and 29 coral atolls spread across three-quarters of a million miles of ocean, but they amount to just 70 square miles of actual land. And even that is now at the mercy of the seas, which are rising thanks to climate change.

The United Nations has predicted sea levels will rise by up to three feet by 2100 if global carbon emissions continue unchecked, and a recent paper published in the journal Nature said this estimate should be doubled to more than six feet because of ice melt in Antarctica.

The Marshall Islanders seem destined to become climate refugees as the whole country threatens to disappear below sea level by the end of the century. And the seas are rising faster than international law can adapt. There is no international recognition of people displaced by climate change as refugees, leaving them without legal protection or rights.

The average elevation in the Marshall Islands is six feet, with many areas just above sea level. In recent years the “king tides” – two especially high tides that come each year at around the same time – have swept through the streets of the capital, Majuro. King tides never used to swamp the atoll; now they do.

Entire rows of damaged and abandoned homes can be seen in some areas of the atoll. About 170 miles southwest, Kili island has been flooded so regularly that its residents are thinking about leaving for good.

“If we lose our islands, we would become aimless refugees,” said Kathy Jetnil-Kijiner, a Marshallese poet and climate activist who lives in Majuro. “We could be the first to leave our entire country, our entire home.”

Two years ago, Jetnil-Kijiner was invited to speak at the United Nations Climate Summit in New York, where she called on world leaders to take action to save her island nation. She read one of her poems that describes the threat that faces the Marshallese people.

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AP/ROB GRIFFITH
A small uninhabited island that has slipped beneath the water line and only shows a small pile of rocks at low tide on Majuro Atoll in the Marshall Islands.
“Tell them we are a proud people toasted dark brown as the carved ribs of a tree stump.
Tell them we are descendants of the finest navigators in the world.
Tell them about the water, how we have seen it rising.
Tell them what it’s like to see the entire ocean level with the land.”
If displaced because of rising seas, the Marshall Islanders – like anyone put in this position by climate change or natural disaster – would find themselves in legal limbo. They would not qualify as refugees, so would not receive the same international protection, even though they were forced to leave their homes. That’s because “climate refugee” is not a term recognized under international law.

Alex Randall from Climate Outreach and Information Network (COIN), the Oxford, UK-based climate NGO, says the term is widely used but holds no legal currency: “The phrase ‘climate refugees’ isn’t used much within law or research any more, for the very same reason that such people don’t have similar rights to other kinds of refugees.”

Climate refugees are not covered by the 1951 Geneva Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, according to the International Organization for Migration (IOM).

That is because “natural disasters or environmental degradation do not constitute a form of persecution as per the Convention criteria (fear of persecution for reasons of race, religion, nationality or membership of a particular social group or political opinion),” according to a 2014 IOM report.

The IOM and the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR) have called for international human-rights law to be used to cover the legal gaps threatening people displaced by climate change. That is because its framework covers respect for the rights of all individuals at all times, including protection from arbitrary loss of life.

“The key thing is creating systems that protect all migrants and displaced people,” said Randall.

One effort in this direction has come from Switzerland and Norway through a state-led process known as the Nansen Initiative. Conceived to fill the legal gap in cross-border migration due to climate change and disasters, its agenda was endorsed by some 110 countries last year.

But the Nansen Initiative may not help those displaced from countries that cease to exist altogether.

“I think people understand that climate change will cause migration, but I don’t think they really get what that means for the Marshall Islands,” Jetnil-Kijiner said. “It would mean changes in our status in the international realm.”

If the islands were swamped by rising seas, the country would likely lose its sovereignty, making its people stateless under international law.

The 1954 Convention Relating to the Status of Stateless Persons sets out a minimum standard of treatment for them, including providing travel documents and identity papers. It does not, however, compel any state to accept a stateless person for entry or residence, according to the UNHCR.

Thousands of people have already left the islands for a variety of reasons, with many settling in diaspora communities in Hawaii, California and Oregon. In Springdale, Arkansas – another hot spot for Marshallese migration – traffic signs are written in the Marshallese language.

Several thousand islanders live in the town. One of them, a retired pastor from Majuro who moved there with several members of his family, said Marshallese residents remain close-knit even after leaving the islands.

But some aspects of the culture are incompatible with U.S. customs and norms, including the common practice of family members and relatives living together and speaking Marshallese as a first language.

“We speak Marshallese a lot, but the young ones have to talk in English, too, because of school,” said pastor Charles Heam. “Only the older people speak Marshallese, the younger are not fluent.”

The pastor admits that his family’s new home comes with advantages, like better education and better healthcare, but this does not remove the sense of loss.

“I miss my home island, Majuro,” he admitted.

This article originally appeared on Refugees Deeply. For weekly updates and analysis about refugee issues, you can sign up to the Refugees Deeply email list.
https://www.newsdeeply.com/refugees/articles/2016/07/01/seas-rising-faster-than-refugee-law-can-adapt




also
http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/photos/7-wonders-of-the-world-that-may-soon-be-underwater/ss-AAhGPYL?li=BBnbfcP#image=12

7 wonders of the world that may soon be underwater

35 slides with captions

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on July 09, 2016, 12:58:55 pm

The Marshall Islands are made up of five main islands and 29 coral atolls spread across three-quarters of a million miles of ocean, but they amount to just 70 square miles of actual land. And even that is now at the mercy of the seas, which are rising thanks to climate change.

The United Nations has predicted sea levels will rise by up to three feet by 2100 if global carbon emissions continue unchecked, and a recent paper published in the journal Nature said this estimate should be doubled to more than six feet because of ice melt in Antarctica.


...meanwhile NASA SAYS:

Oct. 7, 2014
Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches New Record Maximum
https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum


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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Dyna on July 09, 2016, 01:57:26 pm
2016 Arctic Sea Ice Wintertime Extent Hits Another Record Low

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/2016-arctic-sea-ice-wintertime-extent-hits-another-record-low :o

Are we going to roll?
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on July 09, 2016, 03:11:18 pm
More ice at the south pole, less ice at the north pole?

It's the opposite of what happens on Mars, with a bigger north pole ice cap and smaller south pole ice cap, maybe if we understand one situation we can understand the other.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on July 14, 2016, 10:28:19 am

whatever you want to blame it on.. or not we are  into change bigtime
hope everyone has picked their place of safety


http://inhabitat.com/climate-change-is-pushing-earths-clouds-higher-and-towards-the-poles/

by Lacy Cooke

VIEW SLIDESHOW

A new study published in Nature warns that climate change is pushing Earth’s clouds higher and towards the poles. Why do these cloud patterns matter? For starters, there isn’t much solar radiation near the poles, so the clouds won’t reflect as much heat back into the atmosphere. Also, when cloud tops are higher they act similar to greenhouse gases, trapping radiation on Earth. These patterns only serve to bolster climate change.


wow check out the face in this one..
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As scientists work to understand how climate change will affect our planet, one of the biggest uncertainties has been how warming will impact clouds. In the past, it was hard to obtain reliable observations; satellites gathering data typically weren’t designed to collect long-term records.

Scientists at institutions in California and Colorado scrutinized “corrected satellite records” from as far back as the 1980’s. They found cloud patterns similar to those described by climate change simulations. These patterns predict that some clouds will move towards the poles, and some cloud tops will stretch higher into the sky.

The scientists tried to account for natural variations by looking at models that incorporated elements like volcanic eruptions and increasing greenhouse gases, and models that didn’t incorporate those elements. Study lead author Joel Norris of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography said, “The pattern of cloud change we see is the pattern associated with global warming.”

Related: World’s largest fog harvester produces water from thin air in the Moroccan desert

The study doesn’t provide all the answers we need; it doesn’t look at low subtropic clouds, which some scientists speculate will be more important, and the cloud shift patterns could be due to erupting volcanoes in addition to greenhouse gas emissions. However, the study is another step on our path towards understanding how climate change will impact Earth.

Max-Planck-Institute for Meteorology director Bjorn Stevens said, “This study reminds us how poorly prepared we are for detecting signals that might portend more extreme (both large and small) climate changes than are presently anticipated.”

...................................

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/09072016/clouds-patterns-could-contribute-global-warming-climate

hanging Cloud Patterns Could Lead to More Global Warming

Clouds' impact on climate change has been a scientific mystery, but a new study zeroes in on how they may be accelerating the warming of the Earth's atmosphere.

Zahra HirjiBY

Cloud patterns have been shifting over the past 30 years in ways that a new study says are possibly due to global warming––and may even lead to more warming in the future.

Climate scientists believe cloud changes are one of the biggest sources of uncertainty in climate models and understanding how cloud patterns respond to rising greenhouse gas levels is critical to determining how much and how quickly global temperatures will rise.

This new study, published Monday in the journal Nature, provides for the first time a reliable record of past cloud changes spanning nearly three decades and a comparison of those changes with climate models. This brings researchers much closer to solving the mysterious cloud-climate relationship.

Most climate models have projected that global warming would cause the tops of certain clouds to move higher in the atmosphere and also trigger a decrease of cloudiness in the subtropics, expanding the dry zone there. The models also predict that these patterns will trigger more warming, creating what's called a positive feedback loop.

The new findings offer "more evidence that clouds are going to be ... [an] exacerbating factor" on climate change and not a mitigating one, lead author Joel Norris told InsideClimate News.

Norris is a climate professor at the University of California San Diego's Scripps Institution of Oceanography. He conducted this study with five scientists from the University of California Riverside, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and Colorado State University.

Because the only satellites available to monitor clouds for decades weren't designed for this task, scientists haven't been able to conclusively track cloud changes and compare them with the model results—until now. The study shows that these two cloud pattern changes predicted by the models have already been occurring in parts of the globe since at least the 1980s.

"It think it's a very good study but it's not really the smoking gun in terms of proving we know" how exactly clouds are impacting global warming, said Dennis Hartmann, a professor of atmospheric sciences at the University of Washington. Hartmann was not involved in the study.

Measuring cloudiness has been difficult, if not impossible, for researchers because they've had to rely on satellites designed to measure weather patterns, not clouds. Scientists seeking to use this data grapple with a daunting array of challenges: satellites shift orbits over time; sensors degrade; instruments have to be replaced. So the data are inconsistent, and previous attempts to correct for these issues have left flaws (called "artifacts") in the data that have led to incorrect or ambiguous interpretation.

To fix that, Norris and his colleagues developed a way to systematically find and remove these data artifacts. This allowed them to clean up the data from two satellite projects—International Satellite Cloud Climatology Project (ISCCP) and Extended Pathfinder Atmospheres (PATMOS-x)—to clearly observe cloud patterns between 1983 and 2009.

"It's a huge accomplishment," said Joyce Penner, an atmospheric science professor at the University of Michigan who was not involved in the study.

Their findings showed an increase in cloudiness in some regions and a decrease in others. They found that the subtropical dry zones—longitudinal bands containing many of the world's deserts—are expanding. These areas could expect to see warmer surface temperatures and more evaporation, and possibly exacerbated droughts too.

The corrected data also showed the tops of the highest clouds are moving even higher in the atmosphere across the globe. This pattern could be even worse for the climate because clouds both absorb thermal radiation emitted from the Earth's surface and emit some of that radiation to space. How well a cloud emits radiation to space depends on its temperature. Low clouds are more effective than high clouds at emitting radiation.

The researchers confirmed their findings with three other sources of satellite data used to indirectly measure cloudiness during the same time period.

After confirming that the cloud patterns they'd observed were real, Norris and others ran thousands of climate model simulations to see how they compared. Models set up to track changes in cloudiness due to natural variability did not match the observed patterns. Nor did models measuring the impact of ozone or other factors.

But models tracking cloud changes linked to greenhouse gas emissions or the impact of volcanoes spewing particles in the atmosphere did match. This means it is likely climate change along with the recovery of the atmosphere from volcanic eruptions has influenced the cloud changes observed between the early 1980s and late 2000s.

Penner said, however, the study doesn't attempt to prove these cloud changes will then exacerbate global warming.

Hartmann praised the study, but said it raised a lot of questions, including why the observations revealed much more dramatic changes to cloudiness than the models predicted. Hartmann also said the study's short time period was a limitation and questioned the findings that natural variability did not appear to account for the changes to cloudiness in the last few decades.

The study identified general changes in cloud patterns and did not attempt to measure and quantify such changes, either globally or in specific regions. Without these details, it's difficult to predict how changing cloud patterns might impact Atlantic hurricane frequency or paths, for example, or other regional weather phenomena.

"It's very enticing," Penner said. "It leaves all these issues hanging out there that need further work."


ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Zahra Hirji

Zahra Hirji is a Boston-based reporter for InsideClimate News. She covers natural gas drilling, fossil fuel divestment, renewable energy policy and climate science, among other issues. She also runs ICN's two news aggregations, Today's Climate and Clean Economy Wire, as well as helps with multimedia presentations, social media and website upkeep. She has a degree in geology from Brown University and a masters degree in science writing from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on July 14, 2016, 12:39:15 pm
whatever you want to blame it on.. or not we are  into change bigtime
hope everyone has picked their place of safety

NEVADA :P

It was here when the Dinosaurs roamed

It was here when the Wooly mammoths roamed

It was high and dry when the sea levels flooded most of the center USA

It will survive the Apocalyse too :P
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 13, 2016, 06:16:06 pm
It appears Zorgon is right, again.   8)

Published on Nov 30, 2016

MINI-ICE AGE SETTING UP!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TCdmHNQnYY&t=17s

GLOBAL WARNING/RECORD TEMP. PLUNGE BY DEC. 3
BPEarthWatch


T Wine    20 hours ago
BPEarthWatch :  Amazing the connections you've made with the date of the magnetar wave arrival in Dec 2004 and the correlating 9.3 EQ in Sri Lanka. And another one is headed this way in days??? CHILLING. Especially since he's been predicting the second wave of energy for some time now, with a date of 12/26/16.

Makes sense of the recent Exec Order for space weather disasters, doesn't it? Glad to hear you and Mike and Paul are getting together again. Dig deep, my friend. (Btw, the trolls are going to be so surprised when Christ returns. All that troll time wasted. Just like that.) God bless.?

Michael's Full Interview, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTRvalL7mqs?
Michael's Website, http://www.Counciloftime.Com
Listen to live shows on his site: http://www.counciloftime.com/mediaplayer.aspx?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S_F6KanYlY

THE DESTROYER, CLOSEST LOOK/36 HOURS
Published on Dec 9, 2016
THE JUNO MISSION



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0isfkb0duN4

EARTH WARNING! MASSIVE WAVE OF ENERGY/16 DAYS AWAY!
BPEarthWatch
Published on Dec 10, 2016



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD2Sqak9usM

MINI ICE AGE BEGINNING/SOLAR MINIMUM/DNA CHANGE.
Published on Nov 2, 2016


From a few days ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikt9yIXTjkY

COLD FRONT COMING TO AMERICA: WEATHER MANIPULATION OF JET-STREAM
Published on Dec 1, 2016
James Munder

There is a massive cold front coming to America next week they say, according to European forecasting. The jet stream will take the frigid air out of Alaska and bring it down into the United States as it spreads out into the Eastern United States; what they call, in the mainstream media, a polar vortex. I call it weather manipulation and jet stream manipulation.


 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh_dFYkv1wI

Western half of US to be hit with temperatures of up to 30 degrees colder than normal...
Published on Dec 1, 2016

Get ready for the big freeze! Western half of US to be hit with temperatures of up to 30 degrees colder than normal after Alaska experiences bone-chilling lows of minus 41F.

Record-setting cold weather could strike large parts of the United States in the next week as record-setting low temperatures from Alaska sweep south, climatologists have warned.
The Last Frontier state is already experience its coldest weather in almost two years, with temperatures in Fairbanks hitting minus 41F.

Now the bitter conditions are set to move into the northwestern states, pushing temperatures well below the average for this time of year.

The cold blast is set to last between six and eight days.

One weather model expects low temperatures of 25F degrees below the norm in Denver, Colorado, and Rapid City, North Dakota, by December 7, according to Pivotal Weather.

The mercury will only reach the high teens in Billings, Montana, and the 20s around Salt Lake City, Utah.

Forecasters predict the weather will move east in the next 10 days, but it will lose some intensity.

Some models suggest cities such as New York and Washington could be slightly higher than usual, but only by 1F or 2F.

When the cold air from the west clashes with warmer breezes from the east, it is also likely to form a storm.

This means central parts of the Lower 48 could see severe snow and thunderstorms.

'Cannot recall last time I have seen such a cold anomaly forecast across almost entire USA,' climatologist Roger Pielke Sr. said on Twitter.

Alaska set the record for its coldest November in 1970 at minus-62F, according to the National Weather Service.

Computer models predict the near-freezing temperatures will spread east in the next week.

'When the cold assaults the western United States this time next week and clashes with milder air to the east, a storm is likely to form, producing heavy snow west of its center and potentially strong thunderstorms to the east,' wrote Jason Samenow, chief meteorologist of the Post's Capital Weather Gang.

'It is far too early to pin down the specific storm track, but the central United States should start to monitor the situation in the coming days.'



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvgPUa65-Ko

Dec 4 Jet Stream Report Get Ready
R Wayne Steiger



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg2EVPyFcvc

Could This Winter Be A Repeat Of 2013 With A Polar Vortex?
CBS Chicago
8 December 2016



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZAgtUUdB2c

MINI-ICE AGE/ARCTIC VORTEX/TEMPS PLUNGING
Published on Dec 12, 2016
BPEarthWatch




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plllgpQY2PA

*SEVERE WEATHER ALERT* EARTH'S EXTREME WOBBLE MAIN CAUSE!
Published on Dec 13, 2016



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U01NNHNOLg

Crazy Polar Vortex Coming - Dec 14th-21st, 2016
Weather Decoded

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Shasta56 on December 23, 2016, 06:12:08 pm
I was out in the polar vortex. I had full days of nursing visits both Saturday a day Sunday.  It wasn't enjoyable. The weather is getting crazier. I really would like to know where the climate change deniers think people are going to live when this world becomes incapable of supporting life. 

Shasta
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on January 10, 2017, 05:34:04 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2NQfiys3EY

Forget Yellowstone! Long Valley Super Volcano/ Thousands of Quakes.
Published on Dec 21, 2016
Higher Truth Channel

Long Valley activity has always, always exceeded Yellowstone quakes.
Scalding hot springs happened years before Yellowstone's incident, and now?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiAoYh7wWjw

Super-volcano Campi Flegrei Reawakening
Nearing Critical Phase | Veiling Sunlight, Volcanic Winter
Published on Jan 5, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbXmTwFsR28

Europe Freezes: Snow on Greek & Italian Beaches, S.E. USA Snow Covered (286)
Adapt 2030
Published on Jan 8, 2017

Europe engulfed in blizzards and record breaking snows down to the beaches of southern Italy and Greece. Coldest Orthodox Christian Christmas Eve in 120 years, Bosporus Straight closed due to sea ice and high winds, Istanbul slammed with 2+ feet of snow. Eastern Europe's roads impassable and the Danube River freezes over.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2mxhowF2c8

Mini Ice Age/Polar Vortex Breaking Down. 175 MPH Winds/CA
Published on Jan 9, 2017


Seeker and I both live in North Georgia.   :P

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/20_ft_DFS_Georgia.png)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/20ft_ga_closeup.png)


Here's but two of the volcanoes erupting and sending ash clouds (higher each time) 25-30-35-40 thousand feet into the atmosphere,


Bogoslof volcano (Aleutian Islands): another strong explosion last night (https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/bogoslof.html)
Monday Jan 09, 2017 10:23 AM | BY: T

The series of strong explosions at the volcano continues.

Another event started at about 22:30 AKST local time last night (or this morning 07:30 UTC) and was detected in seismic and infrasound data from neighboring islands and produced lightning.

The highly explosive nature of the eruption is most likely due to the fact that the new vent is located at or near sea level and water-magma interaction increases the violent fragmentation of the erupted magma.

According to the Alaska Volcano Observatory, "seismic data suggest two strong eruptive pulses within that period, at 22:33-22:34 and 22:56 AKST (07:33-07:34 and 07:56 Jan 9 UTC), consistent with two distinct volcanic clouds observed in satellite images.

"The second cloud is larger and reached as high as 35,000 ft asl. Winds are blowing the volcanic clouds to the northwest.

"Additional explosive events at Bogoslof may occur without warning."



Cluster of Big Earthquakes Rattles Iceland’s Katla Volcano (https://www.wired.com/2016/08/cluster-big-earthquakes-rattles-icelands-katla-volcano/)

Last night, a brief earthquake swarm rattled the caldera at Katla in southern Iceland. The largest earthquakes were over M4, ranging from a few kilometers deep ...
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on February 11, 2017, 09:47:29 pm
https://youtu.be/5IKTOAqN6Nc

100 MILE CRACK OPENS UP IN PAKISTAN AFTER EARTHQUAKE
Nibiru Planet X 2016
Published on Feb 11, 2017
https://watchers.news/2017/02/10/large-earth-crack-pakistan-february-2017/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDxwaWAGZ0

Longest earth fissure in Qila Abdullah Baluchistan Pakistan

City51 TV
Published on Feb 9, 2017
Following recent driving downpours in Balochistan, an earth fissure opened up in Qila Abdullah. The fissures spans several hundred miles sparking panic among the local residents.


https://watchers.news/2017/01/25/earth-fissure-arizona-january-2017/
Large earth fissure discovered in Arizona
on January 25, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXVJy8jgg4I

Fissure in Arizona is the largest of its kind

Business Insider
Published on Feb 1, 2017
There's a 2-mile-long crack in the desert of Arizona. At 10 feet wide and up to 30 feet deep in some parts, it is the largest of its kind. It continues to grow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=47&v=KIRoTD2CLi4


https://watchers.news/2017/01/16/earth-fissure-northern-cape-south-africa-january-2017/
Large earth fissure opens in Northern Cape, South Africa
January 16, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIA5rsLgDg
Massive Sinkhole Documentary - World's Most Terrifying Sinkhole


https://watchers.news/2017/02/11/storm-flood-nevada-california-idaho-february-2017/
Devastating floods hit western US, new storm approaching
February 11, 2017
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Irene on February 11, 2017, 10:23:15 pm
These fissures fascinate me. I view them as symptoms of a larger issue with the Earth's crust. I think it's been compromised. By what, I have no idea.

We have been poking it full of holes and emptying it of many of its contents for some time now. Maybe it's reaching its limit.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on February 12, 2017, 03:32:58 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on February 12, 2017, 06:33:31 am
These fissures fascinate me. I view them as symptoms of a larger issue with the Earth's crust. I think it's been compromised. By what, I have no idea.
Those fissures are only on the soil, they are not deep, so they are not symptoms of issues with the Earth's crust, only with the top few metres.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on February 12, 2017, 10:26:28 am
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Those fissures are only on the soil, they are not deep, so they are not symptoms of issues with the Earth's crust, only with the top few metres.

Please PROVE that your statement above is correct, as I think it is totally without merit.  :P

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large earth fissure has opened up between the cities of Daniëlskuil and Kuruman in Northern Cape, South Africa after heavy rains hit the region at the beginning of the month. The fissure is still growing and is nearing dangerously close to the R31 road between the two cities, which is now officially closed.

The crack was discovered on January 6, 2017, during heavy rains and floods in which at least 7 people lost their lives. As of Friday, January 13, it was about 300 m (980 feet) long and 30 m (98 feet) deep. It is located about 55 km (34 miles) south of Kuruman.

30 meters is a lot more than "the top few". You make it seem that it's only a few feet, when, in reality, it's 98.

Why are you misleading the reader?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIRoTD2CLi4


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"... they are not symptoms of issues with the Earth's crust..."

And here you make out like you're a geologist.

Are you really a geologist, or just blowing smoke to further your agenda?    ::)

Please share with us what 'they' are.

Thank you for all you do.   :-*

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/grapefruitnevilleshaze02_zpsa9c6e8b9.jpg)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on February 12, 2017, 11:32:21 am
Please PROVE that your statement above is correct, as I think it is totally without merit.  :P
It's not really correct, as the soil is usually some centimetres deep. :)

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30 meters is a lot more than "the top few". You make it seem that it's only a few feet, when, in reality, it's 98.
30 metres is "the top few" when compared with the crust's thickness, around 1000 times that. If we were talking about fissures 1000 metres (3280 feet for the metric system challenged :P ) deep then it would be different.

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Why are you misleading the reader?
I'm not.

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And here you make out like you're a geologist.
I'm not a geologist, but I studied geology at school and I like geology. :)

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Are you really a geologist, or just blowing smoke to further your agenda?    ::)
Not a geologist and no agenda. :)

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Please share with us what 'they' are.
Sorry, I thought Portuguese and English use pronouns in the same way, serving as a reference to a subject used at the start of the sentence. In this case, "they" is the same as "Those fissures".

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Thank you for all you do.   :-*
You're welcome. :)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on February 12, 2017, 12:17:13 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXQy_jbPsDo

Big crack in Ethiopia , Israel beach front property soon to be available

Mary Greeley
Published on Jan 11, 2017
In 2005, a gigantic, 35-mile-long rift broke open the desert ground in Ethiopia. At the time, some geologists believed the rift was the beginning of a new ocean as two parts of the African continent pulled apart, but the claim was controversial...

The northern part of the system is the Jordan Rift Valley. The Jordan Rift Valley stretches from the Golan Heights, near Israel’s border with Syria and Lebanon, to the Dead Sea, to the Gulf of Aqaba—an inlet of the Red Sea that separates the Sinai Peninsula from the Arabian Peninsula.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on February 12, 2017, 12:51:17 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF4w7O46-7w
Huge Crack in the Earth Opens Up East of Yellowstone Caldera by Big Horn Mountains

DAHBOO777
Published on Oct 28, 2015
www.undergroundworldnews.com

This giant crack in the earth appeared in the last two weeks on a ranch we hunt in the Bighorn Mountains. Everyone here is calling it “the gash”. It’s a really incredible sight.

Posted by SNS Outfitter & Guides on Friday, October 23, 2015
A follow-up post from today explains a little bit more about the large opening.

“An engineer from Riverton, WY came out to shed a little light on this giant crack in the earth. Apparently, a wet spring lubricated across a cap rock. Then, a small spring on either side caused the bottom to slide out. He estimated 15 to 20 million yards of movement. By range finder, an estimate is 750 yards long and about 50 yards wide.”
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on March 03, 2017, 05:47:33 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mWyttDl7Tw
Yet Another Dam Imminent Warning, N Philippines Coldest in 46 Years, Oz Snows (320)

Adapt 2030
Published on Feb 25, 2017
Another dam warning of imminent collapse with flash flood warnings in Nevada, the event has passes but with levies breaking across California, Nevada and now dam over tops in these two states, what is happening that's not being told to us. Summer snow in Australia, more images emerge, 24 feet of snow for Tahoe in JANUARY ALONE. Avalanches at Snowbird, people trapped.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laBkMGH4g70
End Times Signs Latest Events

Mr Watchman
Published on Mar 2, 2017



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3ZzfQsXrnM
End Times Signs Latest Events

Mr Watchman
Published on Mar 3, 2017



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdnxPVwxK5A
FEMA & World Government Think Tanks Ready for Global Food Shortages:
Timeline and Which Countries

Adapt 2030
Published on Jun 29, 2016
FEMA representatives came out and said that food shortages will about by 2020 and food prices will rise by 400%. This summary was from the larger Food Chain Reaction Global Food Security Group Workshop. The findings were startling. All governments across the planet know the Grand Solar Minimum is arriving, and they had this exercise to discover the ramifications on our global food yields and delivery systems. Losses and chaos was the outcome.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvCVXJWMu38
Global Food Shocks 2017: Seven Crops that Will Rise in Price
Mini Ice Age 2015-2035 (139)

Adapt 2030
Published on Feb 27, 2016
Following patterns of drought and cold cycles along with La Nina intensification forecast, there will be a drive on oranges, rice, maize, almonds, walnuts, tropical fruit and vegetables starting 2017.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv3Nx4CWskk
Record Snow Iceland, Food Costs Spike in EU & Heat Not Record Hot (322)

Adapt 2030
Published on Mar 1, 2017
Record snows blanket Iceland, inflation up 8.8% in EU driven by 60% rises in vegetables and food. Weather channel claims spring arrives 20 days early and then freeze blankets S.E USA. Polar Vortex is set to roll over North America in coming week and Alaska -40C.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on March 04, 2017, 09:54:46 pm


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/antarctica-sees-record-heat-as-scientists-worry-about-rising-seas_us_58b6d5bce4b0780bac2ee87b?

03/01/2017 09:12 am ET
Antarctica Sees Record Heat As Scientists Worry About Rising Seas
Huh, it’s almost like the climate is changing.

OSLO, March 1 (Reuters) - An Argentine research base near the northern tip of the Antarctic peninsula has set a heat record at a balmy 17.5 degrees Celsius (63.5° Fahrenheit), the U.N. weather agency said on Wednesday.

The Experanza base set the high on March 24, 2015, the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) said after reviewing data around Antarctica to set benchmarks to help track future global warming and natural variations.

“Verification of maximum and minimum temperatures help us to build up a picture of the weather and climate in one of Earth’s final frontiers,” said Michael Sparrow, a polar expert with the WMO co-sponsored World Climate Research Programme.

Antarctica locks up 90 percent of the world’s fresh water as ice and would raise sea levels by about 60 meters (200 ft) if it were all to melt, meaning scientists are concerned to know even about extremes around the fringes.

The heat record for the broader Antarctic region, defined as anywhere south of 60 degrees latitude, was 19.8°C (67.6°F) on Jan. 30, 1982 on Signy Island in the South Atlantic, it said.

And the warmest temperature recorded on the Antarctic plateau, above 2,500 meters (8,202 feet), was -7.0°C (19.4°F) on Dec. 28, 1980, it said.

Wednesday’s WMO report only examined the highs.

The lowest temperature set anywhere on the planet was a numbing -89.2°C (-128.6°F) at the Soviet Union’s Vostok station in central Antarctica on July 21, 1983.

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http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

2017 ushers in record low extent
February 7, 2017

Record low daily Arctic ice extents continued through most of January 2017, a pattern that started last October. Extent during late January remained low in the Kara, Barents and Bering Seas. Southern Hemisphere extent also tracked at record low levels for January; globally, sea ice cover remains at record low levels.


Overview of conditions
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Figure 1. Arctic sea ice extent for January 2017 was 13.38 million square kilometers (5.17 million square miles). The magenta line shows the 1981 to 2010 median extent for that month. Sea Ice Index data. About the data

Credit: National Snow and Ice Data Center
High-resolution image

Arctic sea ice extent for January 2017 averaged 13.38 million square kilometers (5.17 million square miles), the lowest January extent in the 38-year satellite record. This is 260,000 square kilometers (100,000 square miles) below January 2016, the previous lowest January extent, and 1.26 million square kilometers (487,000 square miles) below the January 1981 to 2010 long-term average.

Ice growth stalled during the second week of the month, and the ice edge retreated within the Kara and Barents Seas, and within the Sea of Okhotsk. After January 16, extent increased at a more rapid pace, but the rate of ice growth was still below average for January as a whole. For a few days towards the end of the month, the extent was slightly greater than recorded in 2006, a year which also saw many record low days in January, but by the 30th it was tracking below 2006. Through most of January the ice edge remained north of the Svalbard Archipelago, largely due to the inflow of warm Atlantic water along the western part of the archipelago. However, by the end of January, some ice was found to the northeast and northwest of Svalbard. At the end of January, ice extent remained well below average within the Kara, Barents, and Bering Seas.

Conditions in context

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Figure 2a. The graph above shows Arctic sea ice extent as of February 5, 2017, along with daily ice extent data for four previous years. 2016 to 2017 is shown in blue, 2015 to 2016 in green, 2014 to 2015 in orange, 2013 to 2014 in brown, and 2012 to 2013 in purple. The 1981 to 2010 average is in dark gray. The gray areas around the median line show the interquartile and interdecile ranges of the data. Sea Ice Index data.

Credit: National Snow and Ice Data Center
High-resolution image

(http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/files/1999/02/airtemp-350x344.png)
Figure 2b. The plot shows Arctic air temperature difference from average, in degrees Celsius, for January 2017.

Credit: NSIDC courtesy NOAA/ESRL Physical Sciences Division
High-resolution image



January air temperatures at the 925 hPa level (approximately 2,500 feet above sea level) were above average over nearly all of the Arctic Ocean, continuing the pattern that started last autumn (Figure 2b). Air temperatures were more than 5 degrees Celsius (9 degrees Fahrenheit) above the 1981 to 2010 average over the northern Barents Sea and as much as 4 degrees Celsius (7 degrees Fahrenheit) above average in the northern Chukchi and East Siberian Seas. It was also unusually warm over northwestern Canada. Cooler than average conditions (up to 3 degrees Celsius, or 5 degrees Fahrenheit below average) prevailed over the northwest part of Russia and the northeast coast of Greenland.

Atmospheric circulation over the Arctic during the first three weeks of January was characterized by a broad area of below average sea level pressure extending over almost the entire Arctic Ocean. Higher-than-average sea level pressure dominated over the Gulf of Alaska and the North Atlantic Ocean south of Iceland. This set up warm southerly winds from both the northern North Atlantic and the Bering Strait areas, helping to explain the high January air temperatures over the Arctic Ocean. According to the analysis of NASA scientist Richard Cullather, the winter of 2015 to 2016 was the warmest ever recorded in the Arctic in the satellite data record. Whether the winter of 2016 to 2017 will end up warmer remains to be seen; conditions are typically highly variable. For example, during the last week of January, the area of low pressure shifted towards the Siberian side of the Arctic. In the northern Laptev Sea, pressures fell to more than 20 hPa below the 1981 to 2010 average. This was associated with a shift towards cooler conditions over the Arctic Ocean, which may explain why ice extent towards the end of the month rose above levels recorded in 2006.

January 2017 compared to previous years

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Figure 3. Monthly January ice extent for 1979 to 2017 shows a decline of 3.2 percent per decade.

Credit: National Snow and Ice Data Center
High-resolution image

Through 2017, the linear rate of decline for January is 47,400 square kilometers (18,300 square miles) per year, or 3.2 percent per decade.

Amundsen Sea nearly free of ice
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Post by: space otter on March 04, 2017, 10:04:33 pm
GOP Wants NASA To Stop Worrying About Earth And Focus On Space
There are talks of “rebalancing” the agency’s mission as it continues to tweet about climate change.
By Mary Papenfuss
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NASA continues to steadfastly tweet urgent climate change information despite GOP efforts to force the agency to stick to space and forget the Earth.

The Trump administration aims to largely restrict NASA’s focus to its space missions and have it abandon climate change research, which is a part of its Earth Sciences Division. The division, which accounts for just $2 billion of NASA’s $20 billion budget, also includes gathering weather information, which the Republicans don’t want to drop.

At a House Science, Space and Technology Committee hearing last Thursday, Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas) said he wants a “rebalancing” of NASA’s mission to allow other agencies to take over its climate change research. But it’s unclear which agencies could pick up the slack.

The new head of the Environmental Protection Agency, climate-change skeptic Scott Pruitt, has vowed to cut the EPA’s budget and staff in the wake of Trump’s campaign promise to “get rid” of the agency, The New York Times noted. The EPA has also been under orders from the Trump administration to refrain from tweeting anything about climate change.

Meanwhile, NASA posts daily climate change updates on @NASAclimate and Facebook, with frequent warnings about rapid global changes.


https://twitter.com/NASA/status/832027677167071237/photo/1NASA ? @NASA
Monthly @NASAGISS temp update shows January 2017 was the 3rd warmest January in 137 years of modern record-keeping: http://go.nasa.gov/2krCi2S
7:43 PM - 15 Feb 2017
  2,086 2,086 Retweets   2,351 2,351 likes


NASA Climate ? @NASAClimate
“I want to put images right in front of people that show that #globalwarming is, in fact, happening.” —@thaw2017 https://climate.nasa.gov/blog/2552/science-on-canvas-photographs-capture-thawing-greenland/ …
1:44 PM - 16 Feb 2017


Yale Environment 360 ? @YaleE360
Humans are changing the climate 170 times faster than natural forces, according to a new study http://e360.yale.edu/digest/scientists-find-equation-to-demonstrate-impact-of-human-activity-on-climate-change …
12:19 PM - 13 Feb 2017

*sorry pics aren't moving

Despite NASA’s own calls for more knowledge and action on climate change, Smith wants “more funds to go into space exploration,” he told E&E News. “I’d like for us to remember what our priorities are, and there are another dozen agencies that study earth science and climate change. We only have one agency that engages in space exploration, and they need every dollar they can muster for space exploration.”

The move is viewed as yet another way to starve funds from research on climate change, which President Donald Trump, during his campaign, called a “Chinese hoax” invented to hurt U.S. manufacturing.

Fearful of a crackdown on NASA and other agencies, scientists and techies have been busily downloading all available research information from federal databases through groups like DataRefuge and The Environmental Data and Governance Initiative, Wired reported. The gag order against EPA and other federal agencies has also given birth to a large family of “underground” alternative Twitter sites, many with information about climate change.



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03/03/2017 09:09 pm ET
White House Targets Climate Change Programs In Proposed EPA Cuts
One climate protection program would have its budget cut by 70%.

Timothy Gardner and Valerie Volcovici

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House is proposing to slash a quarter of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s budget, targeting climate-change programs and those designed to prevent air and water pollution like lead contamination, a source with direct knowledge of the proposal said on Thursday.

President Donald Trump has long signaled his intention to reverse former Democratic President Barack Obama’s climate-change initiatives. But the Republican president has vowed his planned overhaul of green regulation would not jeopardize America’s water and air quality.

The 23-page 2018 budget proposal, which aims to slice the environmental regulator’s overall budget by 25 percent to $6.1 billion and staffing by 20 percent to 12,400 as part of a broader effort to fund increased military spending, would cut deeply into programs like climate protection, environmental justice and enforcement.

Politico and other news outlets reported the staff and overall budget cuts earlier, but the source disclosed new details on the impact the cuts would have on programs and grants to states.

Environmentalists slammed the proposed cuts, which must be approved by the Republican-led Congress.

The agency did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the budget proposal or its counter proposal. The White House said it had no comment.

Under the proposal, which was sent to the EPA this week, grants to states for lead cleanup would be cut 30 percent to $9.8 million, according to the source, who read the document to Reuters.

Grants to help Native American tribes combat pollution would be cut 30 percent to $45.8 million. An EPA climate protection program on cutting emissions of greenhouse gases like methane that contribute to global warming would be cut 70 percent to $29 million.

The proposal would cut funding for the brownfields industrial site cleanup program by 42 percent to $14.7 million. It would also reduce funding for enforcing pollution laws by 11 percent to $153 million.

The budget did not cut state revolving funds for programs, that Congress tapped last year to provide aid to Flint, Michigan, for its lead pollution crisis.

All staff at a research program, called Global Change Research, as well as 37 other programs would be cut under the plan.

CONGRESSIONAL HURDLES

Some of the cuts are unlikely to pass the Republican-led Congress as they are popular with both Democrats and Republicans. Congress would be unlikely to approve a proposal to cut all staff in a diesel emissions program, for example.

Scott Pruitt, the new head of the EPA, told U.S. mayors on Thursday he would make a priority of cleanups of industrial and hazardous waste sites and improving water infrastructure, even as the White House proposed severe proposed cuts to those programs.

“In this budget discussion that is ongoing with Congress that is just starting, there are some concerns about some of these grant programs that EPA has been a part of historically,” Pruitt said.

“I want you to know that with the White House and also with Congress, I am communicating a message that the brownfields program, the Superfund program and the water infrastructure grants and state revolving funds are essential to protect,” he said.

Greenpeace spokesman Travis Nichols said: “As a candidate, Trump made a big deal out of EPA’s failure in Flint, but now he’s cutting 30 percent out of lead cleanup in his proposed budget. This is an example of his empty promises to do right by the American people.”

Officers of the Environmental Council of the States, composed of local regulators, raised concerns to the White House and EPA about the budget process, which they said lacked input by directly affected states.

ECOS officers will meet with the environment team of the Office and Management and Budget, a White House office, on Friday and have slated a teleconference with Pruitt in March.

ECOS head Alexandra Dapolito Dunn said states had been hopeful after Pruitt’s confirmation hearing that they would get resources to do their work. “Now they are feeling very vulnerable,” she said.


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http://mentalfloss.com/article/72157/melting-glaciers-italy-reveal-shocking-surprise-century-old-corpses

Melting Glaciers in Italy Reveal a Shocking Surprise: Century-Old Corpses

During World War I, elite Italian soldiers who were trained to fight in freezing climates climbed high up into the Alps to battle enemies from Austria and Germany. The three-year war they waged, at elevations topping 6500 feet, is often referred to as the White War. Now, 100 years later, that snow and ice is slowly melting—and what lies beneath is like something straight out of a horror movie: The century-old corpses of both Austrian and Italian soldiers, perfectly preserved.

The great thaw seems to have started in 2004, when three Austrian Hapsburg soldiers revealed themselves. Nearly every summer since, the melting ice has given way to a handful of corpses—more than 80 so far. There are certainly plenty more to find: Roughly 150,000 men died on the Alpine front, and not all in battle. In fact, the elements were more cruel to the soldiers than the fighting was, with more than two-thirds dying due to avalanches, frostbite, and illness.

Bodies aren’t the only things hiding under the ice. Incredibly complex tunnels and garrisons were built right into the glaciers and snow; as it all melts, other wartime relics have slowly appeared. Archaeologists have discovered photos of soldiers’ families, letters and diaries, decks of cards, even food that has been preserved in the cold for all of these years. But, in addition to battling the natural process of decay, archaeologists have another challenge: getting to the remains and artifacts before looters unearth and sell them, either for scrap metal in the case of artillery, or online when the items seem collectible.

Despite the incredible preservation, it’s nearly impossible to identify the soldiers. Even so, the fallen men receive respectful military funerals once they’ve been excavated and sometimes studied by archaeologists. In 2013, more than 500 people turned out to honor two soldiers who had died during the Battle of Presena in May 1918.

Editor's note: This story has been updated.


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Post by: ArMaP on March 05, 2017, 05:09:28 am
Record snows blanket Iceland, inflation up 8.8% in EU driven by 60% rises in vegetables and food.
One more case of throwing information at the reader without any sources...  ::)

Here, in this EU country (Portugal), I haven't seen any rise in the price of vegetables.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: micjer on March 05, 2017, 08:00:01 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo0R5tyI5Mc


The latter part of this video is very interesting as it shows how high sea levels could possibly reach if the ice pack melts in Antarctica.  1 or 2 degrees difference in temp could make a huge change.  It has happened before so who knows.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Phedre on March 05, 2017, 10:23:55 am

I do not wish to change minds(Impossible), but only offer some suggestions, for your consideration.  :)



I have been under the impression for some years that Antarctica has been in ice Making Mode and the Arctic was melting. Which it is but, I am not aware of any "beach front" property in Idaho as yet?  So where is that Melt going?

The idea that we want to be rid of Co2 is deadly wrong. Quote: "Carbon dioxide, on the other hand, is a naturally occurring gas that existed in the atmosphere long before humans. Plants need it to survive. The CO2 greenhouse effect keeps our climate from freezing over. How can CO2 be considered a pollutant?"  *  We need the plants and animals that eat them to survive, or Humans don't survive.  Too many people jump on the "panic wagon" without any knowledge of what little we do Know for a fact!

All you here know that NASA lies like a rug on many fronts, they are busy airbrushing things out of existence on the Moon and Mars. Why would they be considered "Trust Worthy" for much of any thing? I ask you for a practical answer, solution, to the fearsome Crap they put out, when basically the want your money and your allegiance.

As far as new holes,  new lakes, lakes disappearing, volcanic eruptions and etc, etc. The Earth plates are always in "movement"  it is called the "Continental Drift" or the new term(1950s) "Plate Tectonics" . If you have ever looked at an "Ancient Map " of the Continents they are certainly Not in the same place as we see them now. Nor do I believe that Map Makers of those times where such rotten "Map Makers".

Speaking of Movement, we are here on spaceship Earth, hurtling through space around our sun in this star system. We are all travelers and explorers, whether aware of it or not.  :)

So let's get off this Planet and Do some really exciting Explorering! ;D

Sources

What Is Plate Tectonics?
http://www.livescience.com/37706-what-is-plate-tectonics.html

Is CO2 a pollutant?
https://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-pollutant.htm






Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on March 05, 2017, 11:12:16 am
I have been under the impression for some years that Antarctica has been in ice Making Mode and the Arctic was melting. Which it is but, I am not aware of any "beach front" property in Idaho as yet?  So where is that Melt going?
When ice floating on water melts there's no change in the volume of the water, as the water was already there, in ice form.

When ice on land melts then it flows until it eventually reaches the ocean (or some closed system, like a lake), and as that water was not there then the water level rises.

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The idea that we want to be rid of Co2 is deadly wrong.
I have never seen anyone saying that we should get rid of CO2.

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All you here know that NASA lies like a rug on many fronts, they are busy airbrushing things out of existence on the Moon and Mars.
That's debatable, as I have never seen any real sign of image tampering in the science side of NASA.

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Why would they be considered "Trust Worthy" for much of any thing? I ask you for a practical answer, solution, to the fearsome Crap they put out, when basically the want your money and your allegiance.
NASA is not the only source of data.

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If you have ever looked at an "Ancient Map " of the Continents they are certainly Not in the same place as we see them now. Nor do I believe that Map Makers of those times where such rotten "Map Makers".
What do you mean by "ancient maps"? Plate movement is very slow, so slow that it hasn't changed even the oldest maps, any differences to modern maps are a result of the data they had and how they got it.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Phedre on March 05, 2017, 05:06:20 pm

Very Slow in most areas of the World, But in a few areas, we can almost watch the movement.At the top of the article you can see some of the configurations, that more than likely have taken place. There are "ancient maps"  out there, but I don't like posting too much stuff of "no interest"  :)


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"What do you mean by "ancient maps"? Plate movement is very slow, so slow that it hasn't changed even the oldest maps, any differences to modern maps are a result of the data they had and how they got it."


Continental Drift

From last part of Article

Today, we know that the continents rest on massiveslabs of rock called tectonic plates. The plates are always moving and interacting in a process called plate tectonics. 

 

The continents are still moving today. Some of the most dynamic sites of tectonic activity are seafloor spreading zones and giant rift valleys. 

 

In the process of seafloor spreading, molten rock rises from within the Earth and adds new seafloor (oceanic crust) to the edges of the old. Seafloor spreading is most dynamic along giant underwater mountain ranges known as mid-ocean ridges. As the seafloor grows wider, the continents on opposite sides of the ridge move away from each other. The North American and Eurasian tectonic plates, for example, are separated by the Mid-Atlantic Ridge. The two continents are moving away from each other at the rate of about 2.5 centimeters (1 inch) per year. 

 

Rift valleys are sites where a continental landmass is ripping itself apart. Africa, for example, will eventually split along the Great Rift Valley system. What is now a single continent will emerge as two—one on the African plate and the other on the smaller Somali plate. The new Somali continent will be mostly oceanic, with the Horn of Africa and Madagascar its largest landmasses.

 

The processes of seafloor spreading, rift valley formation, and subduction (where heavier tectonic plates sink beneath lighter ones) were not well-established until the 1960s. These processes were the main geologic forces behind what Wegener recognized as continental drift.

http://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/continental-drift/
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Post by: ArMaP on March 05, 2017, 05:46:45 pm
Very Slow in most areas of the World, But in a few areas, we can almost watch the movement.
That doesn't mean that the faster moving plates move so fast as to make a difference of tens of kilometres, enough to appear in any map.

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At the top of the article you can see some of the configurations, that more than likely have taken place.
I studied geology at school (only one year), I'm familiar with all that. :)

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There are "ancient maps"  out there, but I don't like posting too much stuff of "no interest"  :)
Then why speak of them?
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Phedre on March 05, 2017, 07:47:22 pm


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"That doesn't mean that the faster moving plates move so fast as to make a difference of tens of kilometres, enough to appear in any map."


I had in mind this, quote from article : "Africa, for example, will eventually split along the Great Rift Valley system. What is now a single continent will emerge as two—one on the African plate and the other on the smaller Somali plate. The new Somali continent will be mostly oceanic, with the Horn of Africa and Madagascar its largest landmasses."

This area seems to be moving quite fast, as compared to other parts of the world. This has been watched quite closely. Over the last , lets say 50 years, you can "eyeball" the change. And also map it

Quote:" difference of tens of kilometres, enough to appear in any map."


That is a lot of distance!

Thinking of all the earth quakes that we have on a daily basis, there is a "whole lot of shaking" going on, quite remarkable.



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Post by: micjer on March 06, 2017, 06:51:11 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ

Nobody commented on this video.  Expanding earth is something that I feel is quite probable.  May have to jiggle pieces to make them fit his theory, but I feel it makes enough sense to at least think about it.

It explains how leaves and tree branches were found under the ice in Antarctica, as it was once located in warmer climate area.

One thing Adams didn't account for is the huge mountain ranges that have been, and still are  being pushed up.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on March 06, 2017, 07:09:56 am
This area seems to be moving quite fast, as compared to other parts of the world. This has been watched quite closely. Over the last , lets say 50 years, you can "eyeball" the change. And also map it
OK, how much did it move in the last 50 years?

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That is a lot of distance!
It has to be a relatively big distance to appear on world maps. Local maps are different, as they can have smaller scales, but then they wouldn't show a global change.
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Post by: The Seeker on March 06, 2017, 07:19:03 am
One thing Adams didn't account for is the huge mountain ranges that have been, and still are  being pushed up.
That is pressure relief, Mic, just as volcanoes and earthquakes are; if the static pressure isn't strong enough to expand the plates outward yet, it goes upward at weak points in the seams...
What concerns me is what happens if the pressure gets way too high before it is released, say at the Yellowstone super cauldera?

 8)

Seeker
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Post by: Amaterasu on March 06, 2017, 10:10:50 am
Nobody commented on this video.  Expanding earth is something that I feel is quite probable.  May have to jiggle pieces to make them fit his theory, but I feel it makes enough sense to at least think about it.

It explains how leaves and tree branches were found under the ice in Antarctica, as it was once located in warmer climate area.

One thing Adams didn't account for is the huge mountain ranges that have been, and still are  being pushed up.

So...  Where did all the water come from?
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: micjer on March 06, 2017, 11:19:37 am
So...  Where did all the water come from?

I have wondered the same thing.  Even if Adams' theory is incorrect, the same question arises...

Comets hitting the earth?


Yes, Seeker, Yellowstone erupts it will not be good! 
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Post by: Phedre on March 06, 2017, 11:49:41 am


Here is some more information on the "major rifts" of the World as you can really see the product of the Earths movement.

Fascinating stuff.  The "Water" question, is a great one.

Snippit from article

A rift valley is a lowland region that forms where Earth’s tectonic plates move apart, or rift. Rift valleys are found both on land and at the bottom of the ocean, where they are created by the process of seafloor spreading. Rift valleys differ from river valleys and glacial valleys in that they are created by tectonic activity and not the process of erosion.


Tectonic plates are huge, rocky slabs of Earth'slithosphere—its crust and upper mantle. Tectonic plates are constantly in motion—shifting against each other in fault zones, falling beneath one another in a process called subduction, crashing against one another at convergent plate boundaries, and tearing apart from each other at divergent plate boundaries.

http://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/rift-valley/

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Post by: The Seeker on March 06, 2017, 01:11:17 pm
I have wondered the same thing.  Even if Adams' theory is incorrect, the same question arises...

Comets hitting the earth?
According to how the planets supposedly formed originally from swirling masses of assorted molten materials and gasses, I would say the ol' mudball had a high concentration of hydrogen and oxygen trapped inside the core's magnetic field, and as it gradually cooled enough they combined to make h2o...

I have pondered if one could snag a couple of large ice comets, plop them down on mars, melt them out and replenish both the atmosphere and the h2o supply...

since co2 is supposed to be a greenhouse gas, increasing the percentage of it in Mars' atmosphere should help raise the temperature also...

Seeker
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Phedre on March 06, 2017, 01:11:59 pm

Adams Theory is very interesting. If the earth continues to expand as in his theory, would there not be some way to have measurements?  We do have the tech and lots of satellites. ?

And he alluded to some sort of conspiracy about this knowledge he has. Well, that always "tweaks" my interest! Any guesses why that would be?
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Phedre on March 06, 2017, 01:27:21 pm


I'm going to go out on a limb here, feel free to saw it off.  ;D

According to our friend "Lou" the planets are spit out by the Sun. Where they take up an orbit. But I have to wonder if they are not deliberately terraformed  with assistance?  ::)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on March 06, 2017, 01:33:24 pm
Nobody commented on this video.
I didn't comment because I think there's nothing to comment, as he only says that things must be as he says, without even explaining how the Earth is supposed to grow.

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Expanding earth is something that I feel is quite probable.  May have to jiggle pieces to make them fit his theory, but I feel it makes enough sense to at least think about it.
So, how does it happen?

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It explains how leaves and tree branches were found under the ice in Antarctica, as it was once located in warmer climate area.
Plate tectonics also explain that, as both theories (if we can call the expanding Earth a theory) say the continents were together.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Irene on March 06, 2017, 03:27:04 pm
I didn't comment because I think there's nothing to comment, as he only says that things must be as he says, without even explaining how the Earth is supposed to grow.
So, how does it happen?
Plate tectonics also explain that, as both theories (if we can call the expanding Earth a theory) say the continents were together.

ArMaP,

It's common knowledge that the planet is actively "growing". Volcanism, remember? Is it really getting bigger? I don't know, but I have read that the Mid-Atlantic Ridge is one location where it is measurably taking place.

I suppose subduction accounts for some shrinkage as well.

The inflexibility of your thinking is really starting to piss me off. Do you do it on purpose?

Wait, we've had this f***ing discussion before. Yes, you do.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: micjer on March 06, 2017, 03:44:41 pm
I am the first to admit I just don't know the answers.

I do like to think outside the box, and have learned that many many things that we have been taught and told are not the truth.  I wouldn't be on this forum if I believed things, as do the "normal" people do.

I don't have a problem with ArMaP.  Many times he is correct as the internet is full of falsehoods.

He is like the teacher that challenges your hypothesis and makes one rethink their conclusions. 

Anyways back on topic.

Ask yourself...What is the earth's core made up of??

Answer:
At the center of the Earth is the core, which has two parts. The solid, inner core of iron has a radius of about 760 miles (about 1,220 km). It is surrounded by a liquid, outer core composed of a nickel-iron alloy.

Next question.

What do metals do when they heat up?

Metal expands when heated because an increase in temperature is actually an increase in the vibration of the atoms that compose the metal, and this vibration forces the atoms slightly apart. Unless a phase change occurs, the increased distance is not enough to break the lattice structure between atoms.

So if the earth's core has heated up then the conclusion that it also has expanded could be reached.


Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Irene on March 06, 2017, 04:05:43 pm
micjer,

Regarding that person, I have a low tolerance for inflexible thinking. It is the kind of small-mindedness best left to the Vatican.
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Post by: micjer on March 06, 2017, 04:20:28 pm
That's a good one. Mind if I use that?
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Post by: Irene on March 06, 2017, 04:25:38 pm
That's a good one. Mind if I use that?

By all means.  8)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on March 06, 2017, 04:41:50 pm
It's common knowledge that the planet is actively "growing".
Is it really growing? How much the Earth's diameter grows each year?

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The inflexibility of your thinking is really starting to piss me off.
What inflexibility? The fact that I think that the growing Earth theory (if we can call it that, as I haven't see an explanation of the process) is without merit?

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Do you do it on purpose?

Wait, we've had this f***ing discussion before. Yes, you do.
I wasn't talking to you and you are the one complaining about my "inflexibility", so if anyone did any thing on purpose it was you. If you don't like my opinions, though, I am as entitled to them as anyone else.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: biggles on March 06, 2017, 04:47:57 pm
micjer,

Regarding that person, I have a low tolerance for inflexible thinking. It is the kind of small-mindedness best left to the Vatican.

You do put a smile on my face Irene, thank you.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Irene on March 06, 2017, 04:58:28 pm
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Is it really growing? How much the Earth's diameter grows each year?

Do your research. Start with the Island of Hawaii. Two volcanoes have been adding real estate to that chain for decades. The other islands, now inactive and having been formed by the static vent under that area, have been moving northwest over millions of years.

Now what would that be?

Next -

sub·duc·tion
[s?b?d?kSH?n]
NOUN

    geology
    the sideways and downward movement of the edge of a plate of the earth's crust into the mantle beneath another plate.


Say it with me now, s h r i n k a g e .

Growth + Shrinkage = Variations in the size of the planet.

Edited by author to remove insults.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: rdunk on March 06, 2017, 05:07:42 pm
How much the Earth's diameter grows each year?

ArMaP - One scientific answer to your question could very well be:

"The specific growth of the Earth each year is directly relative to the sum total size and weight of the amount of POOP that is deposited upon it", plus the size and weight of the cadavers and ashes of dead HUmons (and all other surface beings) also deposited on and in the Earth's surface!!!!   ;)   ;D
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on March 06, 2017, 05:38:27 pm
So if the earth's core has heated up then the conclusion that it also has expanded could be reached.
Probably, but the expansion of most materials (metals included) is limited to a few percent, and for the Earth to keep on expanding it would need to keep on heating more and more, right?
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on March 06, 2017, 05:44:04 pm
Growth + Shrinkage = Variations in the size of the GD planet.
Local growth and local shrinkage, not global growth, like in the video.

When you have a pimple do you say you are growing?
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: micjer on March 07, 2017, 06:46:35 pm
Why would the earth have 30 percent land in one section and the balance be ocean before continental drift started?  Seems lopsided.

Wouldn't it make more sense that a crust formed world wide and then water was formed from oxygen and hydrogen as the atmosphere cooled, which in turn created lakes in land depressions.

Where I live, is 500 feet above sea level. Also 300 feet above closest lake lake level. Yet beneath the topsoil is 20 feet of sedimentary rock which was formed by an ancient sea bed.  You can see shell fossils in the rock.


NASA says the Universe is expanding, so why can't the earth?  ArMaP makes a good point in regards to where does the increase in mass / matter come from.  But the same can be said for the Universe.

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Mass addition[edit]
In 1888 Ivan Osipovich Yarkovsky suggested that some sort of aether is absorbed within Earth and transformed into new chemical elements, forcing the celestial bodies to expand. This was connected with his mechanical explanation of gravitation.[6] Also the theses of Ott Christoph Hilgenberg (1933, 1974)[7][8] and Nikola Tesla (1935)[9] were based on absorption and transformation of aether-energy into normal matter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_Earth



Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: micjer on March 07, 2017, 06:50:22 pm
Neal Adams wrote the following.....

  MY ANSWERS IN CAPS.Dear Mr Adams,
1. What do you consider the strongest proof for a growing earth?
A. SIZE OF DINOSAURS.B. DIFFERENTIATED LIGHTER  MOLTEN GRANITIC CRUST THAT COATED THE WHOLE EARTH. NOW SHATTERED INTO PIECES BY A SPREADING UNDER CRUST.  C. LACK OF FISH FOSSILS IN THE DEEP OCEANS OLDER THAN 70 MYOLD.  D. LONGER DAY.  E. LONGER YEAR.
F.   SHALLOW SEAS COVERING 2/3'S OF THE CONTINENTAL PLATE MAKING SEA LEVEL OVER 700 FEET DEEPER THAN TODAY.  G. TWICE THE NUMBER OF FRESH FISH FAMILIES THAN SALT WATER FISH FAMILIES.  H.  NO MOUNTAINS OLDER THAN 60 MYOLD. I. ALL SUNS GROW.  J. JUPITER HAS BECOME THE INNER PLANETS METEORITE UMBRELLA. K. THE MOON IS MOVING AWAY FROM THE EARTH. IMPOSSIBLE UNLESS THE SOLAR SYSTEM IS GROWING. L. THE UNIVERSE CAN'T BE EXPANDING. THERE IS NO SUCH PHYSICAL CONCEPT. IT MUST BE GROWING. M. THE UNIVERSE ONCE HAD NO MATTER!  N. I DON'T BELIEVE IN MAGIC.



Picking up on the Dinosaur subject.  Wouldn't it make sense that gravity was weaker when they existed.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on March 07, 2017, 07:48:46 pm
Is it really growing? How much the Earth's diameter grows each year?

I do not know I have no way to measure such growth and I don't know if anyone is doing that :P But it would certainly fit the hollow earth theory :P  I personally don't think it is hollow, just filled with chambers like Swiss Cheese. Jule's Verne's book shows the interconnected caverns concept, not a full hollow earth. And we are finding more and more huge caverns these days, like the Crystal cave in Mexico that has crystals the same relative size Jules Verne sketched in his book in the 1800's

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What inflexibility?

Sometime not everything needs to be debunked. Don't forget that Pegasus was created to explore OUTSIDE the box. people come here to discuss the possible ALTERNATIVE answers to what they experience and are not seeking the 'normal' explanations that are so easily offered by skeptics and those who have NOT experiences the things being discussed.

 ::)


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The fact that I think that the growing Earth theory (if we can call it that, as I haven't see an explanation of the process) is without merit?

Well here is the thing... if you haven't seen an explanation of the theory, how can you know the theory has no merit?  Would you not need to actually see the theory to make a fair accessment of it before deciding it has no merit?

I personally like this explanation  as it fits :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ


Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on March 07, 2017, 07:52:44 pm
Picking up on the Dinosaur subject.  Wouldn't it make sense that gravity was weaker when they existed.

The lower gravity in ancient time has not only been brought up regarding dinosaurs, but also in building the gigantic megaliths in the past, stones moved that are so huge we cannot move them today with modern technology and yet we are to believe the ancients did it with ropes and slaves :P

(https://sg-dae.kxcdn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Quarries_Baalbek.jpg)
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Post by: zorgon on March 07, 2017, 08:02:08 pm
So...  Where did all the water come from?

Well the Bible say God made it rain for 40 days and 40 nights :P

But there is something else that we over look.   back in the days of Ancient Egypt people in Egypt, Greece and Rome ran around almost naked, wearing just light clothing and mostly bare skinned... You can see it in the Egyptian tomb paintings

yet today we know if your exposed to the sun for a long time you FRY  literally  And even Arabs living in the desert now cover up completely in heavy cotton robes

So what changed?

What IF the Earth at that time had cloud cover like venus?  They could not see the stars because it was cloudy... they did not get sunburn because it was cloudy... and they had longer lives because the couds kept the radiation from space to a minimum...

Then something happened... a cataclysm (more on that soon) that is recorded sporatically (and out of time sequence) in all the old texts..

So the firmament opened and now you could see the stars, the clouds dumped their water and created floods... after that the space radiation shortened lifespans, which are slowly getting longer as we adapt to the radiation levels

And today the water is slowly draining into the hollow cavities of the earth.  If the expansion theory has any merit, it will mean that soon the surface will dry up as all the water seeps into the caverns.

national Geographic already showed us an ocean under ground the size of the Arctic ocean  800 MILES below the surface
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on March 07, 2017, 08:03:20 pm
Is it really growing? How much the Earth's diameter grows each year?

Perhaps you could make that a research project :P Then you would be able to present a better opinin based on evidence collected  be it for or against

 ::)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on March 08, 2017, 07:10:03 am
Picking up on the Dinosaur subject.  Wouldn't it make sense that gravity was weaker when they existed.
No, because although the big dinosaurs are the most famous, there were also small dinosaurs. For example, in the Jurassic there was the 10 metres long Saurophaganax and the 25 centimetres Epidexipteryx.

Also, the bone structure of the heavier dinosaurs is consistent with them weighing as much then as now.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on March 08, 2017, 02:51:27 pm
Sometime not everything needs to be debunked.
True.

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Don't forget that Pegasus was created to explore OUTSIDE the box. people come here to discuss the possible ALTERNATIVE answers to what they experience and are not seeking the 'normal' explanations that are so easily offered by skeptics and those who have NOT experiences the things being discussed.

 ::)
No, I don't forget that, but that has nothing to do with inflexibility. Inflexibility would be me ignoring facts pointing that one alternative theory was right and keep on denying the possibility of it being true.

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Well here is the thing... if you haven't seen an explanation of the theory, how can you know the theory has no merit?  Would you not need to actually see the theory to make a fair accessment of it before deciding it has no merit?
That's true, I should have said that the video is without merit, as it doesn't present any hypothesis or theory, it just presents their alternative ideas as facts, even saying that something else is impossible.

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I personally like this explanation  as it fits :P
Fits what? ???
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on March 08, 2017, 02:53:54 pm
Perhaps you could make that a research project :P Then you would be able to present a better opinin based on evidence collected  be it for or against

 ::)
That would really be a change, not only because it would be something I never did but also because it would be a rare occasion on Pegasus, seeing a real research project.  :P

Too bad I don't have the time.  :(
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: micjer on March 13, 2017, 08:13:53 am
Personally I feel that expanding earth makes so much sense in regards to watching land pieces form together.
I have to agree with ArMaP that the idea of increase mass to this extent seem illogical.
For this theory to be accurate, the earth must be hollow. Not necessarily the inner earth h theory where people live there, but full of caverns, or perhaps the center of earth is full of gases rather than a solid molten core.

If it were gaseous, then the earth expanding would be no different than blowing up a balloon.

How do "They" know the center of earth is a solid iron core? Somebody been there?
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on March 13, 2017, 11:21:06 am
Personally I feel that expanding earth makes so much sense in regards to watching land pieces form together.

Yes it does  :D

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I have to agree with ArMaP that the idea of increase mass to this extent seem illogical.

Under our current laws of physics, yes I agree. Where would the extra mass come from?

But then scientists tried to tell us that the entire EXPANDING universe came from a single BIG BANG. So where did all that matter suddenly materialize from?  And the universe is still expanding. maybe  just maybe there is a law of creation we don't yet have a grasp on :P


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For this theory to be accurate, the earth must be hollow. Not necessarily the inner earth theory where people live there, but full of caverns, or perhaps the center of earth is full of gases rather than a solid molten core.

Caverns eh? Well lets look at that   Jules Verne Journey to the Center of the Earth...  he never showed the world as hollow but rather a series of interconnected caves

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d2/aa/94/d2aa94c0cd88b63f775736719238b280.jpg)

He sketched one cave with giant crystals that dwarf a man, this is one of my favorite images

(http://www.trueanomalies.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Verne-diamond.png)

because in 2002 they found such a cave in Mexico

Naica Crystal Cave Mexico

(http://s.ngm.com/2008/11/crystal-giants/img/crystal-cave-615.jpg)

So HOW did Jules verne know?  Just a lucky guess? Hmmmm in any case his vision of a hollow earth consisting of a series of caves seems to be easily proven :D

Then look at that recently discoverded cave in Viet Nam  Son Doong cave

(http://darianculbert.com/wp-content/uploads/hang-son-doong-cave.jpg)

The super caves in China  heck the whole mountain is hollow

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/13/55/53/83/o-imag10.jpg)


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If it were gaseous, then the earth expanding would be no different than blowing up a balloon.

Oddly enough methane gas presure has been EXTREMELY high in recent years..  so high that it is literally blowing holes open in Siberia

Giant holes are bursting open in Siberia, and you can hear the explosions from 60 miles away
http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-exploding-permafrost-methane-craters-global-warming-2016-6

The Gulf oil spill was made difficult to seal because of EXTREMELY high gas pressure  35-40 times what is considerd normal

Mass bird and fish die offs caused by huge methane bubbles  like the one at Redondo beach 

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=4113.msg54478#msg54478

Methane Hydrate blamed for depleting the oxygen in the water  from under water methane mud volcanoes

So there is your expanding gas.  Is it enough to inflate rock?  Maybe

In Long Beach, California, oil wells (which can be seen all over the city) were pumping out the oil. This caused the land to subside  25 FEET!!!

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In the late 1930s, oil was discovered under Long Beach harbor. Its production helped Long Beach recover from the Depression and provided revenue to support expansion and modernization of the harbor as well as enriching individuals who owned land in the area. As a result when land near the oil field began to sink, those who were profiting from pumping the oil out from under the land resisted any suggestion that there could be a link between oil production and subsidence. They hired experts to defend their position. As the subsidence continued, those whose property was damaged by the sinking, but who were not benefiting from the oil production, hired experts to determine what was really causing the sinking.

While the controversy continued, the land kept sinking. It sunk like a big bowl and the bottom of the bowl was more than 25 feet below its previous elevation. Some warned that if the sinking continued, the ocean might inundate the city. The Navy Shipyard was near the bottom of the bowl and the Navy didn't own the mineral rights of the Shipyard so they were suffering damage but receiving no benefit so in 1958 the Navy sued all of the oil operators. Although the suit was never litigated or settled, it helped to convince many people that a proposed solution, pumping water into the fault blocks where the oil had been taken out, should be implemented. And that solution stopped the sinking.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/Endangered_Earth_Subsidence_01.html


(http://How do "They" know the center of earth is a solid iron core? Somebody been there?)

They don't know :D the theory of what the core is like is constantly changing
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on March 13, 2017, 11:29:40 am
Another Jules Verne sketch

Notice it's not very far underground :P

(http://library.si.edu/sites/default/files/fantastic-worlds-verne-0006.jpg)

This cave with the giant mushrooms and dinosaurs has clouds in it...

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/%27Journey_to_the_Center_of_the_Earth%27_by_%C3%89douard_Riou_38.jpg/300px-%27Journey_to_the_Center_of_the_Earth%27_by_%C3%89douard_Riou_38.jpg)

Can weather exist in a cave?

Apparently so

Cave So Big, It Has Its Own Weather!
The weather inside Son Doong Cave - The largest cave in the world.


(https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/04/b8/20/77/hanoi.jpg)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on March 13, 2017, 11:39:17 am
And what about THIS?

Huge Underground "Ocean" Discovered Towards Earth's Core


http://www.iflscience.com/environment/huge-underground-ocean-discovered-towards-earths-core/

Earth may have underground 'ocean' three times that on surface

Scientists say rock layer hundreds of miles down holds vast amount of water, opening up new theories on how planet formed Three-quarters of the Earth's water may be locked deep underground in a layer of rock, scientists say. After decades of searching scientists have discovered that a vast reservoir of water, enough to fill the Earth’s oceans three times over, may be trapped hundreds of miles beneath the surface, potentially transforming our understanding of how the planet was formed.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jun/13/earth-may-have-underground-ocean-three-times-that-on-surface

Huge 'Ocean' Discovered Inside Earth

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SCaIOQ-uVIw/VRSUGK5NrZI/AAAAAAAAmbM/CCoDBcZLMw0/s1600/2hedjq8.jpg)

http://www.livescience.com/1312-huge-ocean-discovered-earth.html

Earth's LARGEST OCEAN Discovered Underground!

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/szsFd8SqYWQ/hqdefault.jpg)

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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on March 13, 2017, 02:26:58 pm
How do "They" know the center of earth is a solid iron core? Somebody been there?
They suppose it's solid because, among other things, of the way seismic waves go through and reflect on the several layers down to the core.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on March 13, 2017, 05:00:51 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1VxwUo8TJg
Nor'easter Blizzard Warning Eastern USA, Power Outages to be Severe (329)

Adapt 2030
Published on Mar 13, 2017
With a huge Nor'easter bearing down on the eastern part of the USA, expect, incredible power outages with strong wind, ice and heavy wet snow. Travel disruptions will be monumental, and record cold all the way down to Florida. This is a forecast for where, when and how much to be expected in each area.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g06AnjTN0IY
Crippling snow storm looking more certain for the NE U.S.

Roger Hill
Published on Mar 12, 2017

• Makings of a large snow storm for all of the Northeast US and adjacent Canada was about to take place with first snowflakes arriving in southern Vermont Tuesday daybreak...lasting into Wednesday night/early Thursday morning.

• This continues to look like a big snow storm, one of the top 10 Nor’easters of recent years that could cripple portions of the Northeast I-95 Corridor region with blizzard like conditions due to cold temperatures and giant fluff factor in snowfall and powder that will be easily blown around.

• Wind gusts were also impressive just south and east of Vermont exceeding levels of power outages.

• The snow shield is huge covering well north of the Canadian border with impressive precipitation amounts: melted water 1 to 1.6” across Vermont.

• Temperatures that are well below normal were making this storm “Utility friendly” with a medium dry snowfall likely more than a foot and possibly ending with amounts nearing 2 feet in many locations.

• Snow to liquid ratios continued to be very high greater than 15:1 and possibly more like 16-8:1.

• The primary jackpot zone for most snow lies across eastern Pennsylvania New Jersey and up the I-95 corridor to around Bar Harbor ME. But expansiveness of the snows bring greater than 10 inches to the Canadian border based off European Ensemble model runs.

• ECMWF control model runs from last night and this morning seemed to have locked on after zigzagging considerably between one model run and the other, thus confidence for a MONSTER STORM was growing.

• Still historically these systems this year dud out as the very last moment, and this storm system may end up in the 60 percentile and not the 80-90th percentile.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48ENuAt__v0
4pm earthquake update dutchsinse 3/9/17

coppertropicals
Published on Mar 9, 2017
Dutchsinse FAQ: https://dutchsinse.com/dutchsinse-faq/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv3Nx4CWskk
Record Snow Iceland, Food Costs Spike in EU & Heat Not Record Hot (322)

Adapt 2030
Published on Mar 1, 2017
Record snows blanket Iceland, inflation up 8.8% in EU driven by 60% rises in vegetables and food. Weather channel claims spring arrives 20 days early and then freeze blankets S.E USA. Polar Vortex is set to roll over North America in coming week and Alaska -40 C.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5piEllAui3U
Herd of Elk Frozen at Echo Lake December 30, 2014

Adapt 2030
Published on Jan 27, 2015

Misha Garcia discovered a herd of elk had froze to death.
The details on what happened are not released by DOW yet.
Officials from the Colorado Parks and Wildlife came out to the scene and confirmed that 21 elk had died. Parks and Wildlife employees had to work quickly to remove the elk carcasses from the lake before the water froze over again, and Garcia snapped a quick photo of the animals on shore.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Irene on March 13, 2017, 05:33:49 pm
Have you noticed it's only news if it happens in the NE US?

Arrogant b*****ds.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: micjer on March 13, 2017, 06:04:45 pm
Just another day where I live in Ontario with Lake effect snow. This year though has been soft compared to a couple of years ago.   ::)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on March 17, 2017, 10:51:40 am

GREEN 03/16/2017 09:38 pm ET

American Fears About Climate Change Hit Record High, Poll Finds

A new Gallup poll finds 68 percent believe humans are causing warming, and two-thirds are “worried” about it.
By Mary Papenfuss

vid at link


As President Donald Trump aims to slash funding for the Environmental Protection Agency and dismisses concerns about global warming, American worries about climate change are at a record high, according to a new poll.

A Gallup survey found that 68 percent of those polled believe humans are causing climate change, and 62 percent are convinced we’re already experiencing its negative effects.

Almost half of Americans — 45 percent — say they worry a “great deal” about climate change. An additional 21 percent say they worry a “fair amount” about the problem, according to the poll, which was conducted March 1-5.

A separate poll found that 57 percent believe Trump will do a “poor job” of protecting the environment. (Gallup found at the start of Barack Obama’s presidency that 79 percent believed he would do a “good job” on the environment, compared to just 36 percent for Trump — though the poll was conducted before Trump unveiled his proposed cuts to the EPA budget.)

Worry about the issue is at its highest in 30 years, Gallup found.

Gallup speculates that the high number of Americans fearful about climate change was likely impacted by the second warmest February on record, which was just before the survey. Last year’s high numbers also followed a record February heat wave.

Fears spiked in 2007 as well, and analysts theorize it may have been because people were affected by a key 2006 documentary on the problem, “An Inconvenient Truth.” Concerns were not as pronounced between 2007 to 2011 because Americans may have been more fearful about the recession and distracted from worries about global warming, according to Gallup.

According to the Gallup poll, 71 percent of Americans — another record high — agree that most scientists believe global warming is occurring.

But their current concerns fly in the face of the attitude of the Trump administration.

The president’s proposed budget would gut the EPA, with a 31 percent cut in funding.

“We’re not spending money on that anymore,” Mick Mulvaney, director of the Office of Management and Budget, said Thursday of efforts to battle climate change. “We consider that to be a waste of your money.”

Trump has said climate change is a hoax cooked up by and for the Chinese. His new EPA head Scott Pruitt said just last week that he doesn’t believe carbon dioxide is to blame for global warming, ignoring scientific findings to the contrary.

The Sierra Club on Tuesday called on the EPA’s inspector general to investigate Pruitt’s comments on carbon dioxide, saying he violated the agency’s 2012 Scientific Integrity Policy, which requires that agency workers and officials “respect” the findings of the broader scientific community.

Lawyers for the environmental organization said in letter that Pruitt’s comments contradict “decades of work by international scientific authorities and federal agencies, including the EPA, that have found carbon dioxide to be a primary cause of global warming.” His comments are “not only erroneous, but appear to be politically motivated,” the letter adds.

An EPA spokesman insisted Pruitt’s comments were “perfectly in keeping” with the policy, insisting there is debate on the issue within the scientific community, Reuters reported.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/global-warming-record-fear_us_58cb0ffce4b00705db4dcead?s65osv0ir90ms4i&
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on March 17, 2017, 11:17:34 am
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“We’re not spending money on that anymore,” Mick Mulvaney, director of the Office of Management and Budget, said Thursday of efforts to battle climate change. “We consider that to be a waste of your money.”
I agree with this statement; according to those same scientists every planet in the solar system is getting warmer; if co2 is playing a large part in it as they state, how do they propose to convince Mother Nature to quit pouring co2 into the atmosphere?

Considering Mt Pinatubo pumped out more in 3 days than mankind has in 200 years...

Seems like a waste of our money and resources to me
 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: micjer on March 17, 2017, 12:04:24 pm
Agree totally. Also if you want cold just get a volcano to put a few million tonnes of ash in upper atmosphere. Instant ice age. It's all a scam to get more tax money
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on March 17, 2017, 02:27:08 pm
American Fears About Climate Change Hit Record High, Poll Finds

A new Gallup poll finds 68 percent believe humans are causing warming, and two-thirds are “worried” about it.

This is because of the political fear mongering and misleading data.

No SANE person that has done even the smallest amount of research will deny that climate change is real... it is just not caused by mankind, nor can we do much about it.   As Seeker pointed out this global warming trend is being noticed on ALL the planets in the solar system...

So unless mankind is out there on all those planets messing them up, then how can this be a man made problem?


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A separate poll found that 57 percent believe Trump will do a “poor job” of protecting the environment. (Gallup found at the start of Barack Obama’s presidency that 79 percent believed he would do a “good job” on the environment, compared to just 36 percent for Trump — though the poll was conducted before Trump unveiled his proposed cuts to the EPA budget.)

Sounds like more political posturing. Obama had 8 years  Did he fix global warming? or has it got worse during his reign?  Hmmmm Can Trump fix the weather?  NO  Can Hillary fix the weather?  NO  Even though conspiracy nuts say HAARP and Chemtrails are to blame while others say that HAARP and chemtrail are the solution...  NO ONE can fix the weather

Japan builds a 30 foot high tsunami wall... Japan say "Ah now we are safe...  no need to listen to warnings"   nature says "Oh yeah? tryu THIS!" and throws a 40 foot tsunami at them and knocks down their wall..

Was that HAARP that made the tsunami? well some will say so :P  but NO ONE can stop Nature from doing what it will

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Worry about the issue is at its highest in 30 years, Gallup found.

fear mongering and social media effect


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“We’re not spending money on that anymore,” Mick Mulvaney, director of the Office of Management and Budget, said Thursday of efforts to battle climate change. “We consider that to be a waste of your money.”

I agree 100%  Total waste of money to try to stop global warming.  Remeber a few years back all the money and research grants to study the holes in the ozone layer over the polls? Also a huge waste of money and deliberate fear mongering

The holes over the poles are NATURAL  They have always been there and will always be there. We were taught the ozone cycle back in high school... (they also taught us that if a tide suddenly goes out fast DO NOT collect the pretty seashells... run as fast as you can UPHILL :P)

The ice core samples taken by the Russians drilling at lake Vostok are stored in Norway for anyone to study. Those ice cores go back 415,000 years  I have posted this many times and have several pages on it. There are corresponding CO2 and Methane charts as well  415,000 years  LONG before mankind made any smoke  :P

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47brotherthebig/04images/Antarctica/415k-year-temp-graph.jpg)

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Trump has said climate change is a hoax cooked up by and for the Chinese. His new EPA head Scott Pruitt said just last week that he doesn’t believe carbon dioxide is to blame for global warming, ignoring scientific findings to the contrary.

Well climate change is real and not sure about the Chinese spreading the Hoax as I was sure it was Al Gore and crew :P but I would like to read what Trump ACTUALLY said rather than the Huffington Post who are 100% biased to the Liberal side. As for 'scientific studies" these days you can get any number of scientists to say just about anything.

There were scientists who suggested drilling a hole in the magma bubble at yellowstone to 'relieve pressure". There were scientists who thought using small tactical nukes on the San Andreas fault would gently ease it along. There were scientistrs who thought exploding a nuke on the Moon would allow them to see organic debri in the blast (Carl Sagan was on that team :P )

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The Sierra Club on Tuesday called on the EPA’s inspector general to investigate Pruitt’s comments on carbon dioxide, saying he violated the agency’s 2012 Scientific Integrity Policy, which requires that agency workers and officials “respect” the findings of the broader scientific community.

Lawyers for the environmental organization said in letter that Pruitt’s comments contradict “decades of work by international scientific authorities and federal agencies, including the EPA, that have found carbon dioxide to be a primary cause of global warming.” His comments are “not only erroneous, but appear to be politically motivated,” the letter adds.


hmmm yup  It all depends what your agenda is  :D

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: micjer on March 17, 2017, 02:43:34 pm
Reminds me of Trumps wall! Better ban ladders and ropes in Mexico also. 2500 miles long. I think the Mexicans could lean a ladder up one side of the wall and throw a rope or bedsheets down the other in remote places and be over

Hey throw a carbon tax on everyone to pay for the wall.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on March 17, 2017, 02:48:08 pm
A lesson in OZONE and simple Chemistry

Most people, especially Americans, have little understanding of ozone.

OZONE is OXYGEN  nothing more....


OXYGEN is usually written as O  (as in H2O where H is hydrogen)

So why H2?  Because when molcules bond they have 'hooks" that attach based on certain laws.  We won't get into the laws :P that is several years of Chemistry 101

So H has ONE hook  as it is Element # 1  O has TWO hooks (in the outter shell)

So we see H-   -O-   -H   These hooks attach easily and creaye H=O=H  or H2O as it is standerized


Now OXYGEN (O) is POISONOUS to us  Fortunately -O-  does not like to be alone so either bonds with H- to make water or with another -O-

So the Oxygen we breath is O2

Oxygen is Happy and so are we because THAT is what keeps us alive

We breathe out CO2  which PLANTS need to survive  so the more CO2 there is the more plants will thrive and convert it to carbon (for growth) and free O that is released back into the air where it can once again for O2  thus an endless cycle

A side note  80-85% of the oxygen created is from ALGAE the rest from trees and other plants  ALGAE is the number on oxygen regenerator and THRIVES in a CO2 rich environment

Back to OZONE

Ozone is O3  When UV LIGHT hits the O2 in high altidudes, the energy splits open the O2 and adds in a third O giving us O3

O3 is thus heavier and falls to the Earth. In the process the extra energy from the UV is lost (as O2 is the prefered state of oxygen) and splits apart into O and O2

This process also removed POLUTANTS from the air as they attache or 'hook' on to that single O

This is an on going RENEWABLE cycle

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/fde832579e07.jpg)

So WHY are there HOLE OVER THE POLES?

Simple...

Since Ozone is formed by DIRECT UV light from the sun, the thickness of the Ozone layer depends on how direct those rays are. Over the equator the rays are 100% direct, but over the poles the sun is always on the horizon in summer or below the horizon in winter

Ergo THERE ARE NO DIRECT UV RAYS over the poles

(http://www.norwegianfjordscruise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/midnight-sun-nordkapp-margeroi-island-norway.jpg)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on March 17, 2017, 02:50:45 pm
Reminds me of Trumps wall! Better ban ladders and ropes in Mexico also. 2500 miles long. I think the Mexicans could lean a ladder up one side of the wall and throw a rope or bedsheets down the other in remote places and be over

The way I understood Trumps Wall was that it was more an Affirmative action thing than a physical wall  :P

CANADA/US has a 'wall" It is a wall of Killer Drones patrolling that border
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on March 29, 2017, 07:58:45 am
ok second attempt  it worked after i removed the charts.. hummmmmmmm
have to relearn how that works


yes it's huff post  :P
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-climate-order_us_559aab91e4b0c706985a42be?o3&
 
 
Donald Trump’s Disastrous Plan To Derail U.S. Climate Action
A tale in two charts.

By Alissa Scheller ,  Alexander C. Kaufman
03/28/2017 02:35 pm ET | Updated 16 hours ago
 
President Donald Trump signed a sweeping executive order on Tuesday aimed at reversing much of former President Barack Obama’s efforts to shrink the United States’ carbon footprint.
 
The long-awaited order instructs the Environmental Protection Agency to review the Clean Power Plan, the Obama administration’s signature policy for slashing greenhouse gas emissions from the utility sector, by far the country’s biggest emitter. This review marks the first step toward scrapping the regulation.
 
“Perhaps no single regulation threatens our miners, energy workers and companies more than this crushing attack on American industry,” Trump said at the 2 p.m. signing at the EPA. “We’re ending the theft of American prosperity and rebuilding our beloved country.”
 
Trump’s order also directs the Department of the Interior to lift a temporary ban, put in place last year, on coal leasing on federal lands. In addition, it eliminates federal guidance instructing agencies to factor climate change into policymaking and disbands a team tasked with calculating the “social cost of carbon.”
 
By undoing the Clean Power Plan, the Trump administration is putting projected carbon emissions back on an upward trajectory. It is also abandoning any hope of meeting the U.S. emissions reduction targets set out in 2015 in the 195-country Paris Agreement, the first global climate pact to include China and the U.S., the world’s top polluters.
 
China ratified the Paris climate deal in September. In January, Chinese President Xi Jinping urged the U.S. not to withdraw from the agreement. Trump’s executive order does not contain language critical of the Paris accord, reflecting pressure from Trump’s few advisers who don’t take a hard-line stance against climate science.
 
 
Scott Pruitt sued the Obama administration to block the plan, claiming the rule overstepped the EPA’s legal mandate.
 
In a victory for Pruitt and other Republican state attorneys general, the Supreme Court issued a stay on implementing the plan in February 2016. But the high court’s 2007 ruling in Massachusetts v. EPA, which categorized greenhouse gases as a pollutant, legally compels the federal environmental agency to police emissions.
 
“It looks like there’s going to be a reopening of the whole question of the best way, the legal way, to get at the largest source of greenhouse gas pollution in our country, which is the fossil fuel-fired power plants,” Frank Rambo, head of clean energy and air pollution at the nonprofit Southern Environmental Law Center, told The Huffington Post in an interview ahead of the order’s release.
 
Environmentalists are likely to sue to protect the Clean Power Plan, forcing the White House to prove in court that the regulation meets the legal standard of “arbitrary and capricious.” To successfully employ this standard to overturn a previous court ruling, White House attorneys would have to debunk the overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is man-made.
 
The biggest problem with dismantling the Clean Power Plan is that the plan itself represents only a preliminary step toward reaching emissions reduction goals. Even if the plan were to be perfectly implemented, the U.S. would still be progressing only halfway toward achieving its emissions goals for 2025. Trump may fail to completely undo the plan, but his administration seems unlikely to enact other policies to reduce emissions.
 
 
Trump pledged to boost the U.S. economy by gutting environmental regulations he blames for holding back businesses. Earlier this month, he proposed slashing the EPA budget by nearly one-third, eliminating popular programs like Energy Star and hampering the agency’s enforcement division. The EPA already rescinded a rule this month requiring oil and gas drillers to report leaks of methane, a greenhouse gas 40 times more potent than carbon dioxide.
 
Kneecapping U.S. participation in the Paris Agreement could jeopardize the future of the deal itself. The accord, signed in December 2015, set out global emissions targets far below what’s required to prevent world temperatures from surpassing the 3.6-degree Fahrenheit increase that scientists say will irreversibly damage human civilization.
 
The language of the Paris deal urges the United Nations to reconvene every five years to set new, more stringent goals. If a country as wealthy and powerful as the U.S. fails to meet its baseline commitments, it’s unlikely that poor, developing countries that depend on fossil fuels to grow their economies will make ambitious emissions cuts themselves.
 
The failure of previous global deals, such as the 1992 Kyoto Protocol, hinged in large part on the U.S.’s refusal to implement emission cuts. And already, Trump has proposed curtailing payments to the U.N.-administered Green Climate Fund, which helps poorer countries build renewable energy infrastructure and prepare for the effects of climate change.
 
“The world is safer when America is strong,” Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke said in a speech before Trump. “Our strength relies on energy.”
 
 
 
.................
 
Our carbon footprint says it all.
This graph shows the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, as measured at Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii, from 1958 to today. In September, scientists at Mauna Loa announced that C02 levels had likely surpassed the threshold of 400 parts per million permanently.
 

 
7 slides here cause i can't tell if they are  being copied because of error
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-climate-order_us_559aab91e4b0c706985a42be?o3&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009&slideshow=true#gallery/582f6f2ce4b058ce7aab16a4/2
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: micjer on April 02, 2017, 06:34:28 am
Back to expanding earth theory.


Let's assume for one moment that the earth's core was a giant block of ice, rather than an iron core.
It would have been formed at absolute 0.  Pretty cold!

Fast forward a few years (millions) and ice starts to melt....there's your oceans folks.  Above and below the surface.

Now add magma into this ....

https://www.reference.com/science/magma-form-719dca69a562886


QUICK ANSWER
Magma forms when rocks in the mantle melt due to changes in pressure or the addition of water. Although temperatures in the earth's mantle are much hotter than melting temperature, there is not a layer of magma or molten rock under the earth's surface at any given time because there is too much pressure for rock to melt. Rather, magma forms here and there because of certain changes.

FULL ANSWER
According to How Stuff Works, magma exists in solid, liquid and gaseous states simultaneously. Magma typically occurs along tectonic plate boundaries because of the way these plates interact with each other. If plates move away from each other, the pressure in the mantle changes, because suddenly there is a void for the rock to fill. This change in pressure starts melting the mantle rock into magma. Magma also forms when two plates collide. This collision forms a trench where once more pressure in the mantle changes. If it occurs in the ocean, water lowers the melting point of the rocks. In both instances magma once more forms.
According to Volcano World, occasionally the magma will be contained within a magma chamber, usually beneath a volcano. This magma is released when gas from the magma exerts a great enough pressure.



Ok..... so what is produced when water is heated to temperatures that can melt rock?


Of course STEAM.  What does steam do? Creates pressure/energy.  Make trains operate, create electricity, etc.

So if there is a tremendous amount of gas/pressure being created, would it not make sense that the earth started expanding much the same as balloon would?


Food for thought!


 
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on April 02, 2017, 07:28:13 am
Let's assume for one moment that the earth's core was a giant block of ice, rather than an iron core.
It would have been formed at absolute 0.  Pretty cold!

Fast forward a few years (millions) and ice starts to melt....there's your oceans folks.  Above and below the surface.
First question: why millions of years? The pressure from the weight of the upper layers on the core would create a tendency to melt the core from the moment it was created.

Second question: does it mean that below the continents and ocean bottom it would be all water, down to the core?

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Now add magma into this ....
Where does it come from? Do you mean that only a small(ish) core was ice, the rest was rock? If yes, how would the heavier rock keep above the lighter ice?

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Ok..... so what is produced when water is heated to temperatures that can melt rock?
Where would that heat come from?

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Of course STEAM.  What does steam do? Creates pressure/energy.  Make trains operate, create electricity, etc.

So if there is a tremendous amount of gas/pressure being created, would it not make sense that the earth started expanding much the same as balloon would?
I don't think so, as soon as it would find an escape route all the steam would be gone. If, when losing pressure, the escape route closed and the steam kept on creating more pressure then the escape route would open and close until there wasn't enough ice to create steam with a strong enough pressure to reopen the escape route.

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Food for thought!
Yes, but I don't think it explains a theoretical expanding Earth.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on April 06, 2017, 11:04:28 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/greenland-coastal-ice-caps-melting_us_58e5f007e4b0fe4ce08840b1?bs&

04/06/2017 11:31 am ET
Greenland’s Coastal Ice Caps Have Melted Past The Point Of No Return
Coastal ice has passed a critical “tipping point,” a new study shows. And it doesn’t bode well for the rest of the island’s ice.
By Dominique Mosbergen

(http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_720_noupscale/58e6201b2c00006268ff2969.jpeg)
JOE RAEDLE/GETTY IMAGES


The coastal glaciers and ice caps of Greenland are “doomed,” according to a new study.
Even as President Donald Trump and his administration continue to deny the urgency of climate change, an international team of researchers has revealed how global warming has already melted Greenland’s coastal glaciers and ice caps past the point of no return.

In a study published in Nature Communications on Friday, scientists based in Europe and the U.S. describe how the glaciers and ice caps that cover tens of thousands of square miles along the coast of Greenland have reached a critical “tipping point,” beyond which further melting is unavoidable.

Troublingly, the ice had already surpassed this tipping point 20 years ago, the researchers said — only the technology to confirm this hadn’t existed until now.

“These peripheral glaciers and ice caps can be thought of as colonies of ice that are in rapid decline, many of which will likely disappear in the near future,” said Ian Howat, study co-author and glaciologist at Ohio State University, in a statement last week. “In that sense, you could say that they’re ‘doomed.’”

(http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_720_noupscale/58e6204b2c00006268ff296a.jpeg)
JOE RAEDLE/GETTY IMAGES


A meltwater stream on Greenland’s ice sheet.
The complete melting of Greenland’s coastal ice could raise global sea levels by about 1.5 inches, researchers said. It’s an increase that could impact some islands and low-lying coastal areas through flooding, erosion and other effects. But according to the study’s authors, there’s much more at stake than even that.

“The [1.5 inch figure] does not sound like much,” lead author Brice Noël told The Huffington Post on Thursday from Utrecht University in The Netherlands, where he’s a doctoral researcher. “But these ice caps are an alarm signal of what will happen on the Greenland ice sheet if temperatures continue to increase.”

The Greenland ice sheet, which covers about 80 percent of the island’s surface, is the second-largest ice body in the world after the Antarctic ice sheet. The same processes that have caused the accelerated melting of Greenland’s coastal ice bodies could also influence the island’s massive ice sheet — with devastating results, Noël said.

“For now, the ice sheet is still safe,” he said. “Its tipping point hasn’t been crossed yet. But if warming continues, it’s very likely that it will be crossed.”

If the entire Greenland ice sheet were to melt, it would cause a global sea level rise of more than 20 feet.


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About 80 percent of Greenland, pictured in this satellite image, is covered in an enormous ice sheet. According to NASA, the ice sheet stretches 1,540 miles long and contains roughly 8 percent of all of Earth’s fresh water. Greenland also has isolated glaciers and small ice caps around its periphery. This coastal ice is disappearing at a breakneck pace, say scientists.

Snow Like A ‘Sponge’

To understand why Greenland’s coastal glaciers and ice caps have reached the tipping point the researchers describe, you need to know how these ice bodies are formed.

Glaciers (slow-moving masses of ice) and ice caps (essentially mini ice sheets) are created when snow accumulates in an area and eventually transforms into ice. When new layers of snow fall, the compress the previous layers and eventually force them to recrystallize, forming larger and larger grains of snow that later become larger and larger crystals of ice. As the crystals grow, air pockets between them diminish, and after many years — typically, many decades — near-impermeable glacial ice forms.

But between the snow phase and the glacial ice phase, there’s an intermediate phase called “firn” ― when layers of compressed snow have yet to turn into ice. It typically takes about two winters to form firn in colder regions like Greenland, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center in the U.S.

Firn is critical for preventing glaciers and ice caps from melting, researchers say in the new study. When snow melts on the surface of these ice bodies during the warmer months, meltwater collects in gaps in the firn on the way down to the layer of glacial ice below. The bottom layer of this meltwater will re-freeze, ensuring that the glacier or ice cap keeps its size or continues to grow.

These peripheral glaciers and ice caps can be thought of as colonies of ice that are in rapid decline, many of which will likely disappear in the near future.
Ian Howat, Ohio State University
The firn, explained Noël, “works like a sponge that can buffer a large amount of meltwater.”

But Noël and his team discovered that Greenland’s coastal glaciers and ice caps have melted so quickly in the past few decades that about 20 years ago, the firn of these ice bodies became fully saturated with frozen meltwater.

In other words, there was “enough melt to fill up all the pore spaces in the snowpack,” explained Allen Pope, an NSIDC glaciologist who was not involved in the study, in an email to HuffPost on Thursday.

With nowhere else to go, the meltwater from these coastal glaciers and ice caps started running into the sea, causing these ice bodies’ rapid decline, the study says.

Until 1997, the glaciers and ice caps had been able to “contain and refreeze enough meltwater to remain stable despite temperature fluctuations,” Utrecht University said in a news release. Since then, however, they’ve been melting at an accelerated pace, losing about three times as much mass annually as they did before 1997. It’s an effect that the scientists have called “irreversible.”

“It would require decades to regrow a new, healthy snow cover that can buffer the summer melt again,” said Noël. And with temperatures continuing to rise because of climate change, this regrowth will likely be impossible.

“In a warmer climate, rainfall will increase at the expense of snowfall, further limiting the formation of a healthy snow cover,” Noël added.

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As the World Climate Change Conference (COP21) took place in Paris in 2015, ice blocks harvested in Greenland were installed on the city’s Place du Pantheon.


Climate Change To Blame

Greenland’s coastal glaciers and ice caps measure about 35,000 square miles (about the size of Maine), and according to Utrecht University, represent the largest glacierized area on Earth outside of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets.

Citing earlier research, Noël said up to 30 percent of Greenland’s coastal ice is expected to disappear by 2100.

Global warming, said researchers, is a clear culprit of this precipitous decline: Higher temperatures have meant not just more meltwater production, but also less firn accumulating every year to absorb the meltwater.

Observers have known for years that Greenland’s coastal ice is shrinking, but until now, it was impossible to confirm the exact cause due to technological limitations, the study’s authors said. Ohio State glaciologist Howat said in an email that past researchers lacked three necessities: a high-resolution topographic model of the glaciers and ice caps, a detailed map of their boundaries and a high-resolution numerical model of drainage processes.

Today, however, new technology like Howat’s Greenland Ice Mapping Project Digital Elevation Model, and the Regional Atmospheric Climate Model, developed in part by Utrecht University, have allowed scientists to better understand the processes that are shrinking Greenland’s coastal ice.

The results of the study, said Noël, were “quite surprising.” His team had not expected the saturated firn to contribute so significantly to the ice’s accelerated decline, he said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo8ym0kiddE

An Ice Sheet’s Uncertain Future

This information could have far-reaching implications, researchers said.

If the Earth’s temperature increases by 2 degrees Celsius, the benchmark agreed upon in the landmark Paris climate agreement, the Greenland ice sheet could experience the same accelerated melting that the island’s coastal glaciers and ice caps are facing, said Noël.

The ice sheet is larger and more climatologically isolated than the coastal ice bodies and therefore more stable, but researchers have already observed similar changes to certain parts of the ice sheet’s firn layer, said Howat. These changes are part of “an important process in increasing the rate at which the ice sheet responds to warming, even if it is much slower than the little glaciers at the periphery,” he said.

The Greenland ice sheet has been melting at an accelerated pace since 1979. A study published in December revealed that the large ice cache is less stable than previously believed.

These ice caps are an alarm signal of what will happen on the Greenland ice sheet if temperatures continue to increase.
Brice Noël, Utrecht University
Trump and some members of his administration, including Scott Pruitt, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency, have denied that climate change is an immediate threat worth tackling. Trump signed an executive order last week targeting climate change regulations introduced by his predecessor Barack Obama. Trump’s call to roll back the Clean Power Plan, a regulation aimed at reducing carbon emissions from existing power plants, could significantly handicap U.S. efforts to meet its Paris Agreement commitments.

Last month, Pruitt prompted a furor when he contradicted overwhelming scientific consensus by claiming that carbon dioxide released by humans is not definitively the primary contributor to climate change.

Trump has proposed steep budget cuts at the EPA, the agency Pruitt now leads. According to reports this week, these cuts could imperil the jobs of hundreds of employees working on climate change.

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Dominique Mosbergen is a reporter at The Huffington Post covering climate change, extreme weather and extinction. Send tips or feedback to dominique.mosbergen@huffingtonpost.com or follow her on Twitter.

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A tipping point in refreezing accelerates mass loss of Greenland’s glaciers and ice caps

B. Noël, W. J van de Berg, S. Lhermitte, B. Wouters, H. Machguth, I. Howat, M. Citterio, G. Moholdt, J. T. M. Lenaerts & M. R. van den Broeke
Nature Communications 8, Article number: 14730 (2017)
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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Irene on April 06, 2017, 02:44:47 pm
Otter,

Your huge post crashed my phone, which is always what happens with huge posts that have vids and pics.  :(

Could you, perhaps, make several smaller posts?

Thanks,

Irene :)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: biggles on April 06, 2017, 03:53:00 pm
The way I understood Trumps Wall was that it was more an Affirmative action thing than a physical wall  :P

CANADA/US has a 'wall" It is a wall of Killer Drones patrolling that border


That's what I thought too Mic; the Mexicans can be very smart and work well.  I don't think no darn physical wall will keep them out, some will get through.

Zorgon you crack me up.  ;D
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on April 06, 2017, 05:56:07 pm
Is it just me, or wasn't it named Greenland when the Vikings first discovered it because it was a green land instead of a giant Popsicle?

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: biggles on April 06, 2017, 06:38:00 pm
Is it just me, or wasn't it named Greenland when the Vikings first discovered it because it was a green land instead of a giant Popsicle?

 8)

Seeker



Greenland as in one word dear.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: biggles on April 06, 2017, 06:40:51 pm
I probably misinterpreted what you were trying to say Seeker.  Some Americans get very toey with me over that, sorry.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on April 06, 2017, 06:45:53 pm


Greenland as in one word dear.
Biggsy, my point is that Iceland means covered in ice; Greenland means covered in green as in vegetation...

Seeker
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on April 06, 2017, 06:50:08 pm

you guys are funny


Etymology[edit]
The early Viking settlers named the island as Greenland. In the Icelandic sagas, the Norwegian-born Icelander Erik the Red was said to be exiled from Iceland for manslaughter. Along with his extended family and his thralls, he set out in ships to explore an icy land known to lie to the northwest. After finding a habitable area and settling there, he named it Grœnland (translated as "Greenland"), supposedly in the hope that the pleasant name would attract settlers.[17][18][19]
The name of the country in Greenlandic (Kalaallisut) is Kalaallit Nunaat ("land of the Kalaallit").[20] The Kalaallit are the indigenous Greenlandic Inuit people who inhabit the country's western region.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland




Irene
you may or may not have noticed that i do make longer posts when copying stuff..
sigh.. it's so i don't have a big number of posts when i can combine things

so i have a few questions for ya
how many posts would that entry have to be to not croak your phone?

i ask cause the only thing you can do on my phone is talk  ... really

and if i had only posted the link and you went to read it would that have also crashed your phone?
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: biggles on April 06, 2017, 08:50:49 pm
Biggsy, my point is that Iceland means covered in ice; Greenland means covered in green as in vegetation...

Seeker



I did tell ya I'm off with the pixies most, if not all of  the time.  Zorg knows that.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 06, 2017, 08:51:50 pm
you guys are funny

Wikipedia is not the best source :P

Remember "global warming"? have you heard about the MINI Ice Age that hit Europe and was the reason they invented fireplaces, window panes and tapestries to keep those now frigid castles warm?  There was a show on TV called 'Connections' that covered how that all developed

But before that mini ice age there was a period of warming NOT global but in the northern European regions

Greenland used to be green

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The Greenland ice sheet is at least 400,000 years old and warming was not global when Europeans settled in Greenland 1,000 years ago

Now the 'marketing skills' of Eric may be cute but there was green land back then  In fact there are parts of Antarctica that are ice free as well (Admiral Byrd story) 
This info is even from a SKEPTIC website :P

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Greenland was green
“CIA's Sallie Baliunas […] refers to the medieval Viking sagas as examples of unusual warming around 1003 A.D. ‘The Vikings established colonies in Greenland at the beginning of the second millennium, but they died out several hundred years later when the climate turned colder,’ she notes.” (William Cromie)

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The Greenland ice sheet is at least 400,000 years old

Scientists have estimated that the Greenland ice sheet is between 400,000 and 800,000 years old. This means that the island today is unlikely to have been markedly different when Europeans settled there. However, there is evidence that the settled areas were warmer than today, with large birch woodlands providing both timber and fuel. This warmth coincided with the period known as the Medieval Climatic Anomaly, also known as the Medieval Warm Period, which we will discuss below.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/greenland-used-to-be-green.htm

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Seas/2065311545_2abdf79551.jpg)

Another interesting point is Egyptians, Romans and Greeks

They ran around basically almost naked.. shows it in the old wall paintings etc. They wore short skirts or loin cloths, thin tunics and even the Olympic athletes were almost naked.

 WHY did they not get sun burned?

Today in Egypt they are covered head to toe and wrap their head to protect from the sun

So WHAT was different back then?

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 06, 2017, 08:54:48 pm
(https://skepticalscience.com/images/Temperature_Pattern_MWP.gif)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 06, 2017, 09:07:14 pm
Zorgon you crack me up.  ;D

Why? :P  Do you think I was JOKING? :P

Brought to you by Obama.  Funny how people forgot about this when Donald mentioned a wall :P

U.S. government to patrol Canadian border with drones by end of 2015

(https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/07420725.jpg)
A U.S. Customs and Border Patrol drone aircraft lifts off, Wednesday, Sept 24, 2014 at Ft. Huachuca in Sierra Vista, Ariz.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1669012/u-s-government-to-patrol-canadian-border-with-drones-by-end-of-2015/
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: biggles on April 06, 2017, 11:34:11 pm
Maybe people who weren't happy with O'Bama could stand outside his residence with placards reading "Oh No You Didn't."  Considering his slogan for election was "Yes We Can".
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 07, 2017, 04:06:00 am
Maybe people who weren't happy with O'Bama could stand outside his residence

Can we throw tomatoes and rotten cabbage? :P or is that too Medieval?

 ::)

Nah he is ancient history :P  soon will fade from the World stage. A president is only an office Temp  4 years... 8 years tops...

The ones that REALLY run the country call the shots  and if the president doesn't agree, he ends up like Kennedy

THAT is the reality  Welcome to Amerika
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: micjer on April 07, 2017, 04:49:10 am
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The Donald is finding out that it is not easy to do the things he wanted also.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on April 07, 2017, 06:22:49 am
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/a12_zpsntemwjnn.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/a12_zpsntemwjnn.jpg.html)


The Donald is finding out that it is not easy to do the things he wanted also.
I believe he already knew it would be a tough row to hoe, Mic: But all things considered, including the leftists fighting tooth and nail against him, he is making some progress  8)

Everyone needs to stand up and speak out against those long term leftist losers and rally support for not only the Donald, but to seek and encourage new candidates, preferably strong constitutionalists and conservatives, to step forward and join the fray...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: micjer on April 07, 2017, 01:16:27 pm
https://olearyforcanada.ca/en/home/

Kevin O'Leary

Up here in Canada we have a fellow that reminds me of Donald.  Wealthy,outspoken, businessman that is willing to stand up to the old school thinking of politics.  They are very similar in that they can handle criticism and have good ideas for change.

He is gaining a lot of supporters.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on April 07, 2017, 01:19:15 pm
Wikipedia is not the best source :P
You just have to follow the links to get to the real sources, like a 1880 translation of "Erik the Red's Saga", in which it says:
In the summer Eirik went to live in the land which he had discovered, and which he called Greenland, “Because,” said he, “men will desire much the more to go there if the land has a good name.”

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Another interesting point is Egyptians, Romans and Greeks

They ran around basically almost naked.. shows it in the old wall paintings etc. They wore short skirts or loin cloths, thin tunics and even the Olympic athletes were almost naked.

WHY did they not get sun burned?
When I was young I spent hours on the beach, lying in the sun, and I never got sunburn, that's why people from the Mediterranean area have darker skin than people from the north of Europe. :)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on April 07, 2017, 01:24:48 pm
(https://skepticalscience.com/images/Temperature_Pattern_MWP.gif)

I doubt 1.4º Celsius more would turn Greenland into a green land, if I'm reading that right.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 07, 2017, 03:00:05 pm
When I was young I spent hours on the beach, lying in the sun, and I never got sunburn, that's why people from the Mediterranean area have darker skin than people from the north of Europe. :)

That MAY be true... when i was young i was outdoors a lot and never got burned but now the sun feels different :P

BUT your theory of Mediterranean darker skin doesn't explain why modern Egyptians cover up from the sun when in ancient times they didn't :P
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on April 07, 2017, 03:34:59 pm
That MAY be true... when i was young i was outdoors a lot and never got burned but now the sun feels different :P
It's called old age. ;)

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BUT your theory of Mediterranean darker skin doesn't explain why modern Egyptians cover up from the sun when in ancient times they didn't :P
Nobody goes to the beach in Egypt?
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: biggles on April 07, 2017, 03:36:28 pm
Your a card at times ArMap. xo ;D
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 07, 2017, 04:11:09 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBTqKLI3VGg

*Large Avalanche Warning*/Sierra Nevadas | RARE Storm to Impact Oregon/WA!

MrMBB333
Published on Apr 7, 2017

*Breaking* | A NEW "Large Avalanche Warning" has been issued for the Sierra Nevadas just south of Oroville down to Ebbetts. The NWS out of Reno is calling this a "dangerous situation" and are expecting large avalanches.

ALSO, coming out of Oregon, they too are under a weather warning looking at power outages today, heavy rains, high winds and hail due to a VERY RARE storm, what scientists are calling "a unique, first time event"!

This is a extraordinary low pressure for April, literally saying it is the FIRST of its kind for the area.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: biggles on April 07, 2017, 04:16:28 pm
No snowboarding for a while.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 07, 2017, 04:52:10 pm
Avalanche warnings don't stop skiers :P

On the way to the slopes in Utah we would hear the avalanche cannons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxEufHV4oZ4
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: biggles on April 07, 2017, 04:57:59 pm
I said snowboarding Zorgon, my son snowboarded in Canada on that famous mountain I cant think of.

Anyway if they still did it their nuts.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on April 18, 2017, 06:18:36 pm


WOW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL_mFqGIYwU


Canada glacier melting: diverted in the rare case of river piracy.

Published on Apr 17, 2017
Canada glacier melting: diverted in the rare case of river piracy.

Scientists have witnessed the first modern case of what they call "river piracy" and blaming global warming. Most of the water flowing from a large glacier in northwest Canada last year suddenly changed from river to river.

That changed the river Slims from a deep, raging river of 10 feet 3 meters to something so shallow that it was just above a scientist's top top sneakers in the middle of the stream. The melting of the Kaskawulsh glaciers of the Yukon now flows mostly on the Alsek River and ends in the Pacific Ocean instead of the Arctic Bering Sea.

It seemed that everything happened in about a day - May 26 last - based on data from river gauge, the University of Washington Tacoma professor who studies how terrestrial changes. A 100-foot 30-foot-high canyon formed at the end of the glacier, shifting water pathways, Shugar and colleagues wrote in a study published in Nature Geoscience on Monday.

The term river piracy is generally used to describe events that take a long time to occur, such as tens of thousands of years, and had not been seen in modern times, especially not this quickly, study co-author Jim Best Of the University of Illinois. It is different from something like the Mississippi River changing course in its delta and it is more of a river and occurs at the beginning of a watercourse, not the end.

Scientists had been on the edge of the Kaskawulsh glacier in 2013. Then the River Slims was fast, cold and deep and flowed so fast that it could be dangerous to wade through. They came back last year to find the river low and as still as a lake, while the Alsek, was deeper and faster than flowing.

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An Entire River in Canada Has Vanished in the Space of Just 4 Days
We've never seen this before.
PETER DOCKRILL 18 APR 2017

For the first time in modern history, scientists have observed an entire river disappear in the space of days.

The phenomenon – called river piracy – is where one river's flow is captured by another. Historical evidence suggests it usually takes thousands of years for the process to occur, but in this case the Slims River fed by Canada's Kaskawulsh Glacier was co-opted in only four days – a timeframe researchers describe as "geologically instantaneous and… likely to be permanent".

"Geologists have seen river piracy, but nobody to our knowledge has documented it happening in our lifetimes," says geoscientist Dan Shugar from the University of Washington Tacoma.

"People had looked at the geological record – thousands or millions of years ago – not the 21st century, where it's happening under our noses."

Shugar and fellow researchers travelled to the Slims River on a fieldwork expedition in the Yukon last August, but when they arrived they found that Slims – which had a flow averaging about 480 metres (1,575 feet) wide previously – had all but disappeared.

"[T]here was barely any flow whatsoever. It was essentially a long, skinny lake," says Shugar.

"The water was somewhat treacherous to approach, because you're walking on these old river sediments that were really goopy and would suck you in. And day by day we could see the water level dropping."

River gauges indicated that water levels had dropped sharply between 26 and 29 May 2016. To examine where all the water had gone, the team surveyed the area using drones and a helicopter, and the culprit in this case of river piracy became apparent.


For the last 300–350 years, Slims River was fed by north-running meltwaters from one of Canada's largest glaciers, Kaskawulsh Glacier.

But with the glacier retreating in recent years due to Earth's warming climate, a period of intense melting saw the flow of meltwater punch a new channel in the ice, rerouting the flow southwards via the Kaskawulsh River.

What this means is that instead of ending up in the Bering Sea by way of Kluane Lake, the meltwater now runs in a south-east direction and eventually reaches the Pacific Ocean.

It's a massive turnaround – and not only because it's the first time that river piracy has happened so quickly, but because it's the first case where scientists think the phenomenon happened due to human-caused climate change.

"The event is a bit idiosyncratic, given the peculiar geographic situation in which it happened," says one of the team, John Clague from Canada's Simon Fraser University, "but in a broader sense it highlights the huge changes that glaciers are undergoing around the world due to climate change."

Although the areas surrounding the Slims River aren't heavily populated by humans, the researchers say the effects of the rerouting will have huge consequences on natural ecosystems – and could affect future water supply in the region.

"While one remote glacial river changing its course in the Yukon might not seem like a particularly big deal, glacier melt is a source of water for many people," geoscientist Rachel M. Headley from the University of Wisconsin-Parkside, who wasn't involved with the study, told The New York Times.

"[A]nd the sediments and nutrients that glacier rivers carry can influence onshore and offshore ecological environments, as well as agriculture."

Given the particular location of Kaskawulsh Glacier, the team suggests that other melting glaciers wouldn't necessarily produce similar instances of river stealing as they melt – but it could happen.

In any case, the phenomenon serves as another powerful reminder – in case we needed any – that the ramifications of global warming can produce dramatic and difficult-to-predict tangents.

"So far, a lot of the scientific work surrounding glaciers and climate change has been focused on sea-level rise," Shugar explains in a press release.

"Our study shows there may be other under-appreciated, unanticipated effects of glacial retreat."

The findings are reported in Nature Geoscience.

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Post by: space otter on April 27, 2017, 08:53:36 pm

http://www.nature.com/news/antarctica-s-sleeping-ice-giant-could-wake-soon-1.21808

Antarctica’s sleeping ice giant could wake soon
The massive East Antarctic Ice Sheet looks stable from above — but it’s a dangerously different story below.

Jane Qiu
12 April 2017

On a glorious January morning in 2015, the Australian icebreaker RSV Aurora Australis was losing a battle off the coast of East Antarctica. For days, the ship had been trying to push through heavy sea ice. It rammed into the pack, backed up and crashed forward again. But the ice, several metres thick, hardly budged. Stephen Rintoul, an oceanographer at the University of Tasmania in Hobart, Australia, nearly gave up his goal — to reach a part of the continent that had thwarted all previous expeditions. “I really thought that would be it,” he says. “It’d be another failed attempt.”

Then the weather came to the rescue, with a wind change that blew the ice away from the shore, opening a path through the pack. The ship managed to break free and wove its way through 100 kilometres of ice, reaching the edge of the frozen continent shortly after midnight. Rintoul and his team were the first scientists to reach the Totten Ice Shelf — a vast floating ice ledge that fronts the largest glacier in East Antarctica. “It was a really exhilarating experience,” says Rintoul, chief scientist of the expedition.

The team had to work fast before the ice closed again and blocked any escape. For more than 12 hours, Rintoul and his colleagues carried on non-stop, probing the temperature and salinity of the water, the speed and direction of ocean currents as well as the shape and depth of the ocean floor. They also deployed instruments that would continue taking measurements after the ship had departed.

These first direct observations confirmed a fear that researchers had long harboured: that warm waters from the surrounding ocean can sneak underneath the floating glacier tongue and eat the ice away from below1. “This could explain why Totten has been thinning in the past few decades,” says Rintoul.
Findings such as these are revealing some scary truths about East Antarctica — the vast, remote landmass to the east of the Transantarctic Mountains (see ‘Ice king’). This region is about as big as the entire United States and the majority of it stands on a high plateau up to 4,093 metres above sea level, where temperatures can plunge to −95 °C. Because the East Antarctic Ice Sheet seems so cold and isolated, researchers thought that it had been stable in the past and was unlikely to change in the future — a stark contrast to the much smaller West Antarctic Ice Sheet, which has raised alarms because many of its glaciers are rapidly retreating.

In the past few years, however, “almost everything we thought we knew about East Antarctica has turned out to be wrong”, says Tas van Ommen, a glaciologist at the Australian Antarctic Division in Kingston, near Hobart. By flying across the continent on planes with instruments that probe beneath the ice, his team found that a large fraction of East Antarctica is well below sea level, which makes it more vulnerable to the warming ocean than previously thought. The researchers also uncovered clues that the massive Totten glacier, which holds about as much ice as West Antarctica, has repeatedly shrunk and grown in the past2 — another sign that it could retreat in the future.

Although East Antarctica doesn’t seem to be losing much ice today, there are indications that it is feeling the heat of climate change and is responding in measurable ways. This is disconcerting because its ice sheet is more than ten times bigger than the one in the west. If all the ice below sea level in East Antarctica were to disappear, the height of the world’s oceans would swell by nearly 20 metres.

Researchers are now trying to gather as much information as possible about East Antarctica to better predict what’s to come. Their concern is that over the next few centuries, the ice sheet there might reach a tipping point. “Once glaciers retreat beyond a certain point, things may go downhill very quickly and cause rapid sea level rise,” says Eric Rignot, a glaciologist at the University of California, Irvine. “We don’t want to sleepwalk into a calamity like this.”


(http://www.nature.com/polopoly_fs/7.43544.1491575043!/image/Antarctica-feature-graphic-13.04.17.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_630/Antarctica-feature-graphic-13.04.17.jpg)


Deep danger
Rignot was one of the first scientists to warn about possible trouble in East Antarctica — a region long neglected by climate researchers. In 2013, his team detailed the behaviour of ice around the margin of Antarctica by combining satellite imagery, airborne surveys and climate models. The researchers found evidence that six East Antarctic ice shelves, including Totten, were melting from below at rates much higher than expected — with some even rivalling those of fast-retreating glaciers in West Antarctica3.

More surprises emerged when the researchers took a closer look at some of those East Antarctic glaciers. Satellite imagery and airborne surveys between 1996 and 2013 showed that the surface of the Totten glacier dropped by 12 metres and that its grounding line — the point at which the ice flowing off the continent begins to float on the ocean — retreated inland by a shocking amount of up to 3 kilometres4.

“This is not an isolated incidence,” says Chris Stokes, a glaciologist at Durham University, UK. His team analysed satellite imagery obtained between 1974 and 2012 that covers all the coastal regions in East Antarctica. Most areas had no net ice gain or loss. The only exception is the Wilkes Land region — an area larger than Greenland that includes Totten glacier5. Three-quarters of the glaciers there retreated between 2000 and 2012. “Wilkes Land may be East Antarctica’s weak underbelly,” says Stokes.

As researchers were pondering the surprising retreat of East Antarctic glaciers, van Ommen and his colleagues were flying over Totten to probe its underside. “The landscape underneath the ice is fundamentally important for how glaciers flow and how they respond to climate change,” he says. When the team launched an international initiative called ICECAP (International Collaboration for Exploration of the Cryosphere through Aerogeophysical Profiling) a decade ago to systematically survey the hidden landscape of East Antarctica, “we almost knew nothing about what’s going on down there”, he says.

Every Antarctic summer since then, ICECAP's aircraft have been criss-crossing the vast continent to peer through the ice using radar as well as gravitational and magnetic sensors. “They are the best flights in the world,” says Martin Siegert, a glaciologist at Imperial College London and a principal investigator of the project. The seemingly featureless ice sheet is ever-changing — with wind-sculpted snow dunes and ice shimmering in thousands of shades under the unearthly Antarctic light. “It’s just like another planet,” he says.

The flights have revealed an astoundingly dramatic landscape hidden beneath the relatively flat ice sheet. Preliminary results from airborne surveys this January, led by glaciologist Sun Bo at the Polar Research Institute of China in Shanghai, confirmed the existence of a 1,100-kilometre-long canyon — the longest in the world, and almost as deep as the Grand Canyon in the United States. In previous flights over Wilkes Land, van Ommen’s team discovered that 21% of the Totten glacier catchment is more than 1 kilometre below sea level — an area 100 times larger than previous estimates. “We really didn’t expect it to be as extensive as it has turned out to be,” says Donald Blankenship, a geophysicist at the University of Texas at Austin and another ICECAP principal investigator.

The team also found underwater troughs that extend all the way from the edge of the Totten Ice Shelf to the grounding line 125 kilometres inland, and as deep as 2.7 kilometres below sea level6. This deeply contoured landscape could allow warming waters from offshore to quickly reach and erode the ice.

The first chance to study the fate of that water came when the RSV Aurora Australis reached Totten in 2015. Near the glacier tongue, Rintoul and his colleagues detected waters as warm as 0.3 °C — much warmer than the −2 °C freezing point of sea water1. “They are driving rapid rates of melt,” says Rintoul. The instruments he and his team left behind show that warm waters are present all year round. If these waters follow the recently discovered channel beneath Totten to the grounding line, they will be at least 3.2 °C warmer than the freezing point at that depth. “That would be really bad news,” he says.

Threats to ice shelves could also come from the Antarctic interior — from lakes under the ice sheet that periodically send flood waters towards the coast. A decade ago, Lake Cook beneath the ice sheet in Wilkes Land suddenly drained, gushing 5.2 billion cubic metres of flood water — the largest event of this type ever reported in Antarctica. Such floods could be another destabilizing factor, causing faster ice flow and more iceberg calving, says Leigh Stearns, a glaciologist at the University of Kansas in Lawrence.

Troubled past
These scenarios are not just hypothetical, say researchers. Studies in the past few years have revealed that East Antarctica has lost a lot of ice in the past, and could do so again in the near future.

Some of the evidence for that comes from a 2010 expedition supported by the Integrated Ocean Drilling Program, which retrieved sediments from the sea floor off the coast of East Antarctica. Getting those sediments was a dangerous endeavour. The ship had to repeatedly stop drilling and dodge massive icebergs. “The waters around Antarctica present some of the most challenging environments for ocean drilling,” says Tina van de Flierdt, a geochemist at Imperial College London and a principal investigator of the expedition.

The efforts paid off, however, by revealing surprising changes in the ice sheet’s history. “We had long thought when the East Antarctic Ice Sheet grew to the current size about 14 million years ago, it’s the end of the story,” says van de Flierdt. “It’s this big stable block of ice that isn’t really doing anything in the face of climate change.”

Instead, the sea-floor sediments revealed that the ice sheet waxed and waned many times between 5.3 million and 3.3 million years ago7 — an epoch called the Pliocene, when air temperatures were up to 2 °C higher than today. “We got a clear signal every time it was warm, suggesting that the ice sheet was sensitive to climate warming,” says van de Flierdt.

The researchers say that they have some intriguing preliminary results from the most recent interglacial period, between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago — when the globe was as warm as it is today. The ice sheet retreated just slightly less at that time than it did during the much warmer Pliocene. “That’s a big surprise,” says van de Flierdt.

“If the results prove to be robust, I’d say it’s really interesting,” says Maureen Raymo, a geochemist at the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in Palisades, New York. “This may mean that you can lose a certain amount of ice quite easily with a little bit of warming,” she says.

Fast forward
As East Antarctica’s vulnerability comes into focus, researchers are increasingly concerned about the future. The only way to forecast decades or centuries ahead is to use computer models that simulate how ice sheets respond to a changing climate. But the models are relatively simplistic, and until recently they couldn’t accurately reproduce some past events, such as the significant glacial retreats that scientists have been discovering in East Antarctica’s history.

Climate researchers Robert DeConto of the University of Massachusetts in Amherst and David Pollard of Pennsylvania State University in University Park have tried to make the simulations more realistic by factoring in some processes that were left out of earlier studies. Their model allows meltwater on the ice surface to deepen crevasses and splinter the ice shelves, and it simulates how ice cliffs collapse once they lose the ice shelves that buttress them.

When DeConto and Pollard included these processes, their model showed East Antarctica’s glaciers retreating substantially during the last interglacial period and in the Pliocene8. “It’s really the first successful attempt to roughly match ice-sheet simulations with our best understanding of past glacier retreat and sea-level rise,” says van Ommen.

After looking back in time, the researchers turned their model to the future. There, they saw a mix of good and bad news. In their simulations, the entire Antarctic Ice Sheet does not change much in the next 500 years if global warming is limited to less than about 1.6 °C above pre-industrial levels by the end of the century — roughly in line with what the Paris climate agreement aims to achieve.

But if temperatures rise more than about 2.5°C above pre-industrial levels by 2100 and continue climbing, Antarctic ice melt will raise ocean levels by 5 metres by 2500 (ref. 8), with nearly half of that coming from East Antarctica. With Greenland ice also melting, the global sea level would rise by at least 7 metres — enough to inundate large parts of major coastal cities such as Mumbai, Shanghai, Vancouver and New York. “This would drastically reshape the world’s coastline and affect millions,” says DeConto.

He cautions that the model is still rather crude — mainly because observations of East Antarctica are so limited. “Most of the coastline is simply unmapped,” he says.

The lack of data has also resulted in extremely poor ocean models that grossly underestimate the amount of warm water reaching the ice shelves, says DeConto. “This really calls for long-term monitoring of ocean conditions.”

In East Antarctica now, temperatures are dropping rapidly as the austral winter sets in; researchers are cosy at home reviewing the latest haul of data from the field season. A priority for the future is to map the bedrock beneath all major ice shelves. That will help researchers to identify other glaciers that might be eaten away by warm ocean waters, and to predict how the interior might respond once the ice on the coastal margins disappears.

One of the scariest finds would be large valleys in the continental interior that get deeper as they slope towards the ocean. These could destabilize large sections of East Antarctica’s glacial cap when its margins start to disintegrate over the coming decades and centuries. “Then the entire ice sheet could slide off easily,” says Blankenship. “There would be nothing to hold it back.”

Nature 544, 152–154 (13 April 2017) doi:10.1038/544152a
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: biggles on April 28, 2017, 04:56:08 am
I have been wondering for the past few days Otter, why on earth that I would be moving to where I am moving.  It will be bloody cold, in fact freezing, so why.

For decades I have been pointed in this direction.  UP.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on April 29, 2017, 06:17:59 pm


what we don't KNOW we can't complain about.. right..?


04/29/2017 01:05 pm ET | Updated 2 hours ago
EPA Purges Pages That Highlight Climate Change From Its Website
The agency says it’s making the changes to reflect the new leadership.
By Sam Levine

The Environmental Protection Agency removed portions of its website related to climate change on Friday evening ― hours before thousands were set to protest President Donald Trump’s environmental policy.

Sections dealing with climate change were only part of what is being reviewed, the agency said in a Friday press release. The EPA was making the changes “reflect the approach of new leadership,” it said.

The EPA made the changes to reflect the agency’s “new direction” under Trump  and Administrator Scott Pruitt. Trump has suggested that climate change is a hoax and Pruitt has repeatedly questioned how much human beings are contributing to it.

But the science on climate change is overwhelmingly clear. Ninety-seven percent of actively publishing climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends are extremely likely due to human activity.

Astrid Caldas, a climate scientist at the Union of Concerned Scientists, said that the changes were deliberately made to coincide with Saturday’s climate march.

“At a time when Americans are increasingly experiencing climate impacts in their daily lives, the administration has seemingly buried its head in the sand,” Caldas said in a statement. “The administration appears to have timed these changes to make information about climate science more challenging to access to coincide with the Peoples Climate March and related news stories, which will likely drive thousands of Americans to visit the EPA website.”

“The facts about climate change have not changed, however, and politics are not a valid reason to archive basic explanations of science,” the statement continued. “While it is unclear what the administration has planned for updating the web page, climate scientists will be watching closely to ensure the scientific accuracy of whatever replaces it, and that the underlying scientific data remain accessible to Americans.”

Officials purged the climate change section a week after Trump released a statement on Earth Day touting his commitment to the environment and scientific inquiry. His administration has taken a number of actions over its first 100 days that threaten the environment.

In an interview with The Washington Post, Katharine Hayhoe, a climate scientist at Texas Tech University, questioned why the website needed revision at all.

“It’s hard to understand why facts require revision,” she said.

John O’Grady, president of the American Federation of Government Employees, Council 238, which represents 9,000 EPA employees, called the website change a “sneak attack” in a Saturday statement.

“How many extreme weather events, including droughts, floods, forest fires, or other unnatural disasters do we need to experience before this Administration realizes that global climate change is real and needs to be addressed?” O’Grady said. “Something appears to be very wrong with this Administration’s position on global climate change, and this impacts all Americans, especially the poor and marginalized.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/epa-website-climate-change_us_5904bd23e4b0bb2d086ee483?fxd&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 01, 2017, 09:09:48 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3Ilc_ZnpRA

5/01/2017 -- M6.5 (M6.2) strikes NW Canada / Alaska border / Pacific Northwest
Published on May 1, 2017
dutchsinse
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 16, 2017, 05:29:56 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSYJ_u6pHOo

ALERT: EPIC FOOD SHORTAGE IS TURNING HUMANS INTO SKELETONS.
THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO SURVIVE!

The Next News Network
Published on May 9, 2017

Ben Kentish for the UK Independent reports:
The economic crisis in Venezuela is so severe that 75 per cent of the country’s population has lost an average of 19 pounds in weight, a new study has found. A third of the nation’s citizens are now only eating two or fewer meals per day, as soaring inflation creates food shortages. The new findings come from the country’s National Survey of Living Conditions, which is conducted by three Venezuelan universities. This has made it difficult to import basic goods like food, creating shortages and price hikes on the items that are available. As a result, Venezuelans are increasingly relying on cheap foods like potatoes. Joining me now with reaction is Health Guru from Get The Tea Dot Com, Ronnie McMullen.

TFW NOTE:
If California were to disappear, what would the American diet be like?

Expensive and grainy.

California produces a sizable majority of many American fruits, vegetables, and nuts: 99 percent of artichokes, 99 percent of walnuts, 97 percent of kiwis, 97 percent of plums, 95 percent of celery, 95 percent of garlic, 89 percent of cauliflower, 71 percent of spinach, and 69 percent of carrots (and the list (http://www.motherjones.com/files/2agovstat10_web-1.pdf) goes on and on).



https://youtu.be/4yKRWHQXr_Q

*Giant Hail* damages every home in Coyle, Oklahoma!

MrMBB333
May 11, 2017

Severe storms brought damaging winds and large hail as they blew through north-central Oklahoma on Thursday afternoon.



Residents near Kingfisher reported damage to vehicles from tennis ball-sized hail. Photos posted on social media showed rear windshields with large holes and hailstones littering the ground.



The same storm system moved east toward Stillwater, and a tornado warning was issued for Payne County. In Coyle, fire department officials reported softball–sized hail.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eBGHH7OgoY

(276) Farmer makes very rare observation | Everyday life form has VANISHED from his farm! Disappeared?

MrMBB333
Published on May 15, 2017

In this video, you will see a farm in SE Michigan that is clearly missing a life form that is nowhere to be found, there should have been thousands but there were none. He tends to his farm everyday, has for many years...this year something changed...and he noticed right away. (Any Entomologists here?)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sstn1d5xwYw

Nightly Earthquake Update + Forecast -- East Coast Pennsylvania HIT -- You were warned

dutchsinse
Published on May 11, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCZJfPZsUQQ

(276) Strange "humming signal" detected near North & South Poles of Earth! | Simultaneously

MrMBB333
Published on May 16, 2017

May 16, 2017: Unusual 'energy waves' are appearing on seismograms simultaneously at the North & South Poles. These patterns resemble nothing of the norm as defined at IRIS.edu. Another strange signal was detected on MIMIC just prior to these showing up. The MIMIC signal spanned the entire Pacific Ocean.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: biggles on May 16, 2017, 05:44:33 pm
As we say down here, bloody hell.  I've been waiting for the food shortages; gonna stack up when I move, not for me, but for my beloveds.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 24, 2017, 01:06:26 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-_vBLK0ILc

"No Hatchlings"- SE Michigan (Rare) | NJ Farmer of 20 Acres "No Flies"

MrMBB333
Published on May 23, 2017

A land owner in SE Michigan shares a startling discovery she made this year and has not ever seen the entire 35 years she has lived on this property near these ponds.



Another Farmer this time from New Jersey has spoken out about the disappearing fly phenomenon, he too has observed no flies on his 20 acre farm of many animals. Pollenators are absent too, losing crops from 20 fruit trees.



From West Central Illinois a young lady too has noticed an absence of insects from her garden that are always there year after year, and the temperatures have been plenty warm, in fact slightly above average and wet. Ideal for insects…


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnj8Kb27peI

Surviving 2017/The Arctic Vortex in Chaos/Survival Skills

BPEarthWatch
Published on May 23, 2017

2017 is Proving to Be a Record Year in Rain and Temps.
Are You Ready? Survival Skills

http://www.BPEarthWatch.Com


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwxfp-GMgaA

"Sunlight Strength" | *Scorching* Soil Temp | TEAM UV-USA

MrMBB333
Published on May 23, 2017
Relevant Biosphere numbers you need to know...
**What is UV (Ultra Violet Light)**


Ultraviolet light is a type of electromagnetic radiation, as are radio waves, infrared radiation, X-rays and gamma-rays. UV light, which comes from the sun, is invisible to the human eye. It makes black-light posters glow, and is responsible for summer tans — and sunburns.


Where one will find
 OPERATIONS PRODUCTION TEAM
this Friday, Saturday, Sunday:
   ;)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Long_Creek_Music_Festival_2017_LOGO-500.png)
http://www.longcreekfest.com
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 03, 2017, 01:00:05 pm
https://youtu.be/HHbTMOZkQBo

The CERN/Apollyon Connection/Black Hole

BPEarthWatch
Published on Jun 3, 2017
Part One in a Series of the Top Ten CERN Questions.

@ 03:48   "Since CERN fired up, over 90,000 black holes have been created."
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 03, 2017, 02:51:56 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOFS3Ecv-cA

Sunspots, Earthquake, Dwarf Discovered | S0 News

Suspicious0bservers
June 3, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-qLunIwv24

Trump CLEXIT as Earth Begins to Cool, Media Overlooks Mini Ice Age Observations (387)

Adapt 2030
Published on Jun 3, 2017

With President Trumps pull out from the socialist re-distribution of wealth United Nations program the Paris Climate Accord / treaty, we can now get back to real science and looking at the facts that throughout history the Earths temperatures have always risen and fallen over multi century time frames, no CO2 needed.

With the new grand solar minimum intensifying, I have put out a timeline for the amplification effects and we need a plan in place now to tell the planet what is unfolding and implement solutions to do so.

This where President Trump / The Donald can excel. The time for change is now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_bbPdqYL8A

We are Repeating 14th Century Climate During
the Wolff Grand Solar Minimum Minimum (384)

Adapt 2030
Published on May 28, 2017

To my Patreon Supporters thank you. You have a new newsletter in your inbox detailing the upcoming changes in our weather patterns broken down by year and intensity. 

Also an incredible free ebook on the collapse of Europe during the Wolff Minimum and the condition in society then that we are quickly racing towards in our own era. 

We are Repeating 14th Century Climate During the Wolff Grand Solar Minimum Minimum https://abruptearthchanges.com


From commenter Guy Wilson:

In 1963 NASA researcher Joanne SImpson trialed a bootleg experiment using silver oxide to punch holes into clouds.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Simpson/simpson5.php

Was used on a larger scale later on by NASA for experimentation of drought relief and places like California set up cloud seeding operations atop mountains in hope of rain, modern day rain men lol.

https://dpw.lacounty.gov/wrd/Projects/Cloudseeding/CloudSeedingFAQ.pdf

SO2 and other ph-altering agents were used later to mimic volcanoes.

To progress the program farther NASA then proposed spraying the atmosphere with chemicals for further geoengineering.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/04/18/nasa-admits-to-chemtrails-as-they-propose-spraying-stratospheric-aerosols-into-earths-atmosphere/

Shortly following farmers first started noticing reduced crop growth especially in cereal crop growth. The excess of aluminum which is a known agent of the geoengineering platform. Explanations of the excess metals are explained in response to the outbreak of heavy metals in every fashion leaving off the biggest elephant in the room. Go Figure, right.

Just one report of many wishing away the aluminum alarms. Now recently they are geoengineering aluminum friendly crop substitutes. Hum, their way of telling us the heavy metals in the soils is here to stay for quite a while one would think?

http://www.farmandranchguide.com/news/crop/acid-soils-aluminum-toxicity-cause-production-problems/article_33705dc8-ec6c-11e5-ab64-83a8676c6320.html

CIA documents from 1970 revealed the increase of CO2 of 240ppm during hard cooling cycles.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/05/25/the-cia-documents-the-global-cooling-research-of-the-1970s/

 The U.N. decided to for some reason after evidence was provided them that the slope of cooling was quickly progressing to reverse the research that CO2 in reality promotes a slight cooling effect? Come to think of it hasn't the U.N. had my lively hood in their best interest for a NWO?  Here is some more modern research into the increase of CO2 preceding mini ice ages.

https://www.iceagenow.info/demolishing-link-co2-climate/

Hope that helps, Good Day
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on June 03, 2017, 03:30:16 pm
US Paid $1B to Green Climate Fund, Top Polluters Paid $0

(http://a57.foxnews.com/media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2017/06/03/780/438/694940094001_5458698438001_Green-Climate-Fund.jpg)

Quote
The United States contributed $1 billion to the global Green Climate Fund, but the world's top polluters contributed nothing, David Asman reported.

Asman said on "Forbes on Fox" that China, Russia and India contributed no money to the Green Climate Fund, yet that international community pressured the U.S. to join the Paris Climate Accord.

Steve Forbes said that the billion-dollar payment is another reason why President Trump was smart to withdraw the U.S. from the Paris agreement.
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http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/03/paris-climate-accord-green-fund-america-paid-billion-united-nations
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: micjer on June 04, 2017, 05:56:23 am
I am in agreement with Trump pulling out of Paris agreement.  Whole thing is a scam to put more tax  burden on us
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 04, 2017, 06:33:46 am
I am in agreement with Trump pulling out of Paris agreement.  Whole thing is a scam to put more tax  burden on us

While it is indeed a scam,Trump's "pulling out" is part of the script.  No doubt the script writers are trying to corral the Ones who see the fraud and keep Them consenting to be led in the system They control...
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 17, 2017, 09:47:33 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u3CbNR1XFU

Sun UV/ "Intense" | *203 outdoor surface temp*

MrMBB333
Published on Jun 15, 2017
Relevant data you need to know...Be safe out there.

*What is Intense UV?*

A UV Index reading of 8 to 10 means very high risk of harm from unprotected sun exposure. Take extra precautions because unprotected skin and eyes will be damaged and can burn quickly.


Minimize sun exposure between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m.


If outdoors, seek shade and wear protective clothing, a wide-brimmed hat, and UV-blocking sunglasses.

Generously apply non-toxic sunscreen every 2 hours, even on cloudy days, and after swimming or sweating.


Watch out for bright surfaces, like sand, water and snow, which reflect UV and increase exposure.

*What is Irradiance?*

Solar Irradiance is the power per unit area received from the Sun in the form of electromagnetic radiation in the wavelength range of the measuring instrument. Irradiance may be measured in space or at the Earth's surface after atmospheric absorption and scattering.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7ls6dYRHV8

6/15/17 4am Huge radar pulse shown on Intellicast in Alaska

coppertropicals
Published on Jun 15, 2017

NEXRAD weather radar at Middleton Island, Akaska
Middleton Island is a small, uninhabited island in the U.S. state of Alaska, located in the Pacific Ocean approximately 80 miles southwest of Cordova. The island was briefly home to Middleton Island Air Force Station, an early warning radar station, from 1958 until the station's closure in 1963. During the 1964 Alaska earthquake the island was raised an additional 12 feet above sea level. The island now hosts the unattended Middleton Island Airport and a NEXRAD weather radar.
en.wikipedia.org · Text under CC-BY-SA license
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 17, 2017, 09:56:19 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBSr4upQ4N8

Large earthquake threat in Pacific -- West Coast USA, Japan, W. Pacific BE ON WATCH

dutchsinse
Published on Jun 16, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IadMB4-oj6k

Atlantic Storm Strengthens/Yellowstone Quake/Stocks

BPEarthWatch
Published on Jun 16, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAw2AhSHkLM

Double Atmospheric River on the Way to the USA - YouTube

thornews
Published on Jun 15, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNyNpaQaMsM

pt.0ne - I am asking you a favor & giving you a warning. #THORnews - YouTube

thornews
Published on Jun 13, 2017
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 17, 2017, 10:06:08 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDyl2P2aX2c

Tropical Updates - Both Storms 70% Chance of Strengthening

BPEarthWatch
Published on Jun 17, 2017
Both Storms appear to he headed for the Gulf of Mexico.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV7VdY-q3yg

GULF STORM COULD BE A MONSTER! - YouTube

BPEarthWatch
Published on Jun 17, 2017
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 19, 2017, 11:26:05 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ91NncQPtA

Monster Storm Strengthens, Heads for Florida/Alabama Line

BPEarthWatch
Published on Jun 18, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0xPfnKdSvo

Solar Report/Cern/Storm Strengthens/Eyes New Orleans

BPEarthWatch
Published on Jun 18, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySPvWLn1i3s

Tropical Update/Gulf Storms Veers Toward Louisiana/Texas

BPEarthWatch
Published on Jun 19, 2017
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 19, 2017, 12:14:56 pm
Latest graphics - this is a Head's Up!

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Tropical_update_307.png)

That CMC Model purple line goes directly over Rabun County where we live.    :(


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Tropical_update_320.png)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Tropical_update_346.png)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Tropical_update_last.png)

OPERATIONS DISASTER RELIEF TEAM is locked and loaded!
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on June 19, 2017, 01:13:20 pm
Tropical Updates - Both Storms 70% Chance of Strengthening
GULF STORM COULD BE A MONSTER! - YouTube

This is probably what pushed all the hot air into Las Vegas this week

Be safe
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Irene on June 19, 2017, 01:18:10 pm
Yellowstone is up to no good. Very interesting stuff. I've been all over the net today, so I can't remember where I read it, but it is claimed one of the calderas, as a whole has uplifted a bit.

Before anyone jumps me on the issue of how many calderas there are, there are three, each of them from separate historic eruptions there.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on June 19, 2017, 01:31:25 pm
That CMC Model purple line goes directly over Rabun County where we live.    :(
Take care of yourself.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on June 19, 2017, 05:35:53 pm
I am watching the tropical updates now on the weather channel; looks like Thor may get 3-5 inches of rain; I am in the 5-8 inches of rain slot. Fortunately, this whole side of the state will have to flood drastically before I have to climb on the pontoon boat  8)

we are under a flash flood alert until midnight tonite...

they just updated the numbers, appears we both are in the 3-5 zone as of now, will probably change several times between now and Friday.

Seeker
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: biggles on June 19, 2017, 05:40:27 pm
I am watching the tropical updates now on the weather channel; looks like Thor may get 3-5 inches of rain; I am in the 5-8 inches of rain slot. Fortunately, this whole side of the state will have to flood drastically before I have to climb on the pontoon boat  8)

we are under a flash flood alert until midnight tonite...

they just updated the numbers, appears we both are in the 3-5 zone as of now, will probably change several times between now and Friday.

Seeker

I know you will both have everything in hand for this. xo
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on June 19, 2017, 05:47:45 pm
Seeing storm clouds all around us now  That wasn't in the forecast :D

I see the 10 day dropped a few degrees now  119 before now 116
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on June 19, 2017, 06:09:33 pm
Seeing storm clouds all around us now  That wasn't in the forecast :D

I see the 10 day dropped a few degrees now  119 before now 116
Keep an eye on them, Z; you know how fickle the desert can be when it's that hot and those unexpected storms roll in...

Sounds like a haboob in the offing
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 19, 2017, 06:28:49 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPRoYqoC010

Gulf Storm Track Moves West/GALVESTON TX!!
Published on Jun 19, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6GVup0c6UU

NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER/SPECIAL REPORT
Published on Jun 19, 2017


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/nat_hurricane_123.png)


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I know you will both have everything in hand for this. xo

Thank you.

As a volunteer firefighter for 51 years, hurricanes fit perfectly with our tree removal skills, and, being First Responders - roadblocks by the 'authorities' dissolve when we show up.   ;D

We generally roll with a 75-foot bucket truck, crane, T-300 tracked Bobcat and half a dozen support 4WD trucks, 20 or so saws and 6-12 crew persons, all professionals, plus, my partner, Tim, is a US Army medic, Captain of our local volunteer fire department, and a professional tree slayer. Because sometimes things can get a bit bizarre immediately following a disaster (think Katrina), most of us have concealed carry permits.   ;)

Sometimes, it takes longer to set up the equipment that it does to remove the offensive tree from the dwelling.

My cell # is: 678-725-1523. It does not work here in the mountains where we now live.

We'll keep you posted as events draw nearer.

Much Love. 
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on June 19, 2017, 06:48:40 pm
Over 800 acres on fire in California today

Lake Fire near Castaic Lake in Southern California

(http://wildfiretoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/LakeFire_6-17-2017_LA-Co_FD-1200x603.jpg)

850-Acre Holcomb Fire Burns Northeast of Big Bear; Evacuations in Effect

(https://zachnews.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/ch1eiqjuwaesj7y.jpg?w=474)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 19, 2017, 07:04:49 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhT22E8GEGg

Gulf Storm Stops/Path Could Change! - YouTube

BPEarthWatch
Published on Jun 19, 2017
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 20, 2017, 04:18:35 am
Well since I'm first to get hit with all the rain, I thought I'd pass along an update.

This is at 6:13 CST...

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10011/Weather-1.PNG)

This is a closeup of where I live, Belle Chasse, La.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10011/Weather-2.PNG)

Not too worried about this rain event, been through many a tropical storm...the local pumps are manned and ready (all that FEMA money paid for the upgrade)  ;D

I'm just worried about my daughter and grand daughter who are on a cruise right now and suppose to return on Thursday to New Orleans port.. They might have some rough weather to get home.... ???
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Littleenki on June 20, 2017, 05:41:31 am
Heres my favorite link to Hurricane news and analysis

http://flhurricane.com/

Be safe all!

Cheers
Le
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Littleenki on June 20, 2017, 05:45:54 am
This site provides predictive products better than most...

www.windy.com

Cheers
Le
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: micjer on June 20, 2017, 06:46:51 am
That's a great site.  Thx

Looking at eye of hurricane it reminds me of a black hole as winds all go to center and that's it.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Littleenki on June 20, 2017, 07:54:34 am
That's a great site.  Thx

Looking at eye of hurricane it reminds me of a black hole as winds all go to center and that's it.

My pleasure, as we see, its all about spin spin spin!
Cheers!
Le
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on June 20, 2017, 09:38:38 pm

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40347552

In pictures: Greenland tsunami aftermath
20 June 2017
 From the section Europe

A rare magnitude-four earthquake hit Greenland's west coast on Sunday, producing a surge of water that swept away homes and led to reports of a number of people missing.
Joint Arctic Command, the group tasked with the search and rescue mission, has since published images of the aftermath of the disaster and told the BBC that it continues to monitor the situation, warning that further incidents could take place.

Homes were submerged and washed away after a tsunami hit the village of Nuugaatsiaq, north-western Greenland.

pics at link are amazing

The surge of water is believed to have swept away 11 homes in the small village.

(https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/15A78/production/_96569688_7ff152aa-f22d-4903-9957-790fb9b28d0d.jpg)



Meteorologists said it was "not normal" for such an earthquake to hit Greenland and warned of aftershocks.


More on this story
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: biggles on June 21, 2017, 02:16:23 am
One never knows if this type of thing is because of climate change or Haarp or what.

I wouldn't want to be in the midst of that.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on June 21, 2017, 03:23:24 am
That is very odd  A magnitude 4.0 shouldn't cause a tsunami big enough to wash away houses


Okay there was a 5.2 just off shore

http://ds.iris.edu/ieb/index.html?format=text&nodata=404&starttime=1970-01-01&endtime=2025-01-01&minmag=0&maxmag=10&mindepth=0&maxdepth=900&orderby=time-desc&limit=200&maxlat=81.740&minlat=78.140&maxlon=2.440&minlon=-1.160&sbl=1&caller=smevlnk&evid=10202192&name=VICINITY%20of%20GREENLAND%20SEA&zm=4&mt=sat
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on June 21, 2017, 03:35:21 am
That is very odd  A magnitude 4.0 shouldn't cause a tsunami big enough to wash away houses
Unless the earthquake caused some big volume of ice to fall into the ocean, creating the tsunami.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on June 21, 2017, 03:43:16 am
Unless the earthquake caused some big volume of ice to fall into the ocean, creating the tsunami.

That would move away from the land not towards

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on June 21, 2017, 04:05:29 am
That would move away from the land not towards
Away from the falling ice, but if it happened on one side of a bay or on an island that could reach land, like what some people fear could happen with that volcano in the Canary Islands.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on June 21, 2017, 04:10:18 pm


https://www.rt.com/news/392937-greenland-tsunami-flooding-evacuation/

With a population of some 56,000 people, Greenland, the world’s largest island, has a vast ice sheet which covers around 80 percent of its area and is particularly affected by climate change.

The settlement of Nuugaatsiaq suffered the most, with 11 houses being washed away and the community being left with no electricity. With a registered population of 101, 78 people have been evacuated to the town of Uummannaq, the Greenlandic Broadcasting Corporation (KNR) reported, citing police officials.



vid at link



READ MORE: NASA study links Greenland ice loss to ‘gigantic invisible wave’

https://www.rt.com/viral/389979-nasa-wave-greenland-ice/

lots of graphs

The Rink Glacier typically flows at a speed of a mile or two a year. However, during the period between June and September 2012, the wave moved through the giant ice block at a speed of about 2.5 miles (4km) a month for the first three months, increasing to 7.5 miles (12km) during September.

The same wave pattern was detected in GPS data for 2010 – the second hottest summer on record in Greenland.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: biggles on June 21, 2017, 04:27:40 pm

https://www.rt.com/news/392937-greenland-tsunami-flooding-evacuation/

With a population of some 56,000 people, Greenland, the world’s largest island, has a vast ice sheet which covers around 80 percent of its area and is particularly affected by climate change.

The settlement of Nuugaatsiaq suffered the most, with 11 houses being washed away and the community being left with no electricity. With a registered population of 101, 78 people have been evacuated to the town of Uummannaq, the Greenlandic Broadcasting Corporation (KNR) reported, citing police officials.



vid at link



READ MORE: NASA study links Greenland ice loss to ‘gigantic invisible wave’

https://www.rt.com/viral/389979-nasa-wave-greenland-ice/

lots of graphs

The Rink Glacier typically flows at a speed of a mile or two a year. However, during the period between June and September 2012, the wave moved through the giant ice block at a speed of about 2.5 miles (4km) a month for the first three months, increasing to 7.5 miles (12km) during September.

The same wave pattern was detected in GPS data for 2010 – the second hottest summer on record in Greenland.

Hell in a handbasket, no good that.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 21, 2017, 06:19:34 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0C1UGPaC5c

Monster STORM Update - Gulf Coast & Eastern Seaboard USA

thornews
Published on Jun 19, 2017

We've got severe weather tearing up the East Coast as the Mega 
Nasty Moisture Monster storm begins to bring insane amounts of rain to Florida, Mississippi, Alabama & Louisiana. The Lightning has been off the charts!



The Models have this storm lasting about a week, so be prepared.



God bless everyone, T


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pppBy6uVuD4

Biloxi Ms. Live. Strong WInds pulling Off Shore. - YouTube

bpearthwatch
20 June 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_xZqxYyMKc

Tropical Storm Cindy is a very dangerous rainmaking high cloud 21st Century storm

thornews
Published on Jun 20, 2017
WARNING - YOU NEED TO BE A SMART TOUGH BADASS WITH A HEART & A SENSE OF HUMOR TO WATCH THIS. -- -

We've got a tropical storm severe weather multi-day mutli-event event in progress. The future of weird weather is here right now. How are we going to react to it?



Wake up. Be Alert. Get Prepared, & let us start making good plans.



CREATE GREAT ARCHITECTURE & INFRASTRUCTURE



The Sun hasn't died.
So let's own this and look alive.


We are all God's Children.

We are all family.


Now let's live up to our potential, y'all.


God less everyone, T


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3d1ni8deDA

I've never seen a Weather System like Tropical Storm Cindy before

thornews
Published on Jun 20, 2017
On top of that, we have a new storm exploding across the USA.


Strange days, indeed. 

God Bless Everyone, T
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 21, 2017, 06:23:14 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0DpWco0gJk

RedZone Weather LIVE - YouTube

RedZone Weather
21 June 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaaBPu8PdIQ

The Weather Channel LIVE Coverage - YouTube
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 22, 2017, 05:20:36 am
Well since I'm first to get hit with all the rain, I thought I'd pass along an update.

This is at 6:13 CST...

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10011/Weather-1.PNG)

This is a closeup of where I live, Belle Chasse, La.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10011/Weather-2.PNG)



Not too worried about this rain event, been through many a tropical storm...the local pumps are manned and ready (all that FEMA money paid for the upgrade)  ;D

I'm just worried about my daughter and grand daughter who are on a cruise right now and suppose to return on Thursday to New Orleans port.. They might have some rough weather to get home.... ???

Update: 6/22/17 7:20 CST.
Well things are quiet now, the sun is shinning with just a little wind. Most of the rain has moved north and west of us so it's not too bad....
There are some flooding events going on but that's typical of south Louisiana this time of year. People still like the coast so there's always going to be floods.
This is nothing new...been going on for thousands of years, it's only bad for some, cause more people live near the coast.

This wasn't a 'Monster Storm' as some have called it. Just mother nature doing it's thing.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Littleenki on June 22, 2017, 07:21:32 am
This storm was standard fare for early season cyclonic formation, whereas the depression allowed for moisture and energy from farther south to be pulled northward into the body creating a real soaker, with the winds we see in typical thunderstorms making it seem worse than it was.

Call it a hybrid low, a dual source low pressure system, or just a pain in the rear, but monster storm it is not.

Right now there is the tail end of abnormal moisture migration in the GOM, and cyclonic activity will likely become very typical over the next few months, with systems staying within normal parameters, and storms drawing mainly from their own body of low pressure at the center.

Of course, those who get whacked by the tornadic events in this might not see it that way, but thats pretty much how it works.

Heres a good example of a storm which was churning along as a cold front, but became entangled with moisture and heat and warm water in its path..I can guarantee you, those who were affected by the "No Name Storm" will always remember it as way worse than the typical tropical system we experience here in Florida during most folk's lifetimes, not to mention those who got pummelled by it all along the South and Northeast.

http://www.tampabay.com/topics/specials/florida-weather.page

Cheers!
Le
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on June 23, 2017, 07:38:45 am
i think this fits better here
but  this thread http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10412.msg137371;topicseen#new


 made me go find this article that i read the other day

it seems the cycle of drought and then heavy rain changes the weight of the earth and then the earth shakes..


think about this.. ice is melting  - it's raining a lot  - water has weight

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/arkansas/articles/2017-06-19/reservoir-water-weight-blamed-for-arkansas-earthquake-swarm

Reservoir Water Weight Blamed for Arkansas Earthquake Swarm
Earthquakes that hit the Arkansas Ozarks region recently are being linked to Bull Shoals Lake, which has risen 42 feet since March 1 because of heavy rainfall.

June 19, 2017, at 12:04 p.m.
HARRISON, Ark. (AP) — Earthquakes in northern Arkansas are being linked to the weight of extra water at a flood-swollen reservoir.

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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-oroville-earthquake-20170302-story.html
Oroville Dam faces another risk: Earthquakes from rapid rise in water levels

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really good  vid with this one

http://www.news9.com/story/24792205/a-new-theory-about-whats-causing-oklahomas-earthquakes

Antonides says his research shows that aquifers near the location of certain earthquakes had been depleted, through both drought and increased human demand, and then suddenly refilled, through intense and heavy rains.
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Antonides says his research shows that aquifers near the location of certain earthquakes had been depleted, through both drought and increased human demand, and then suddenly refilled, through intense and heavy rains.

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Antonides' paper lays out evidence that this hydrologic loading could have triggered, not only the Prague earthquake, but last April's 4.3 magnitude quake in Luther, a 5.8 M quake in Virginia in 2011, and others. University of Oklahoma research seismologist Austin Holland says he may be right.

"I think, in some cases," Holland told us, "there's really strong evidence that hydrologic loads can trigger earthquakes."


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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-03/california-floods-trigger-big-one-geologists-warn-quake-risks-snowpack-rising-reserv

California Floods To Trigger "The Big One"? - Geologists Warn Of Quake Risks From Snowpack, Rising Reservoirs

Tyler Durden's picture
by Tyler Durden
Mar 3, 2017 7:25 PM

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a bit of history.. history is always interesting

https://www.earthmagazine.org/article/benchmarks-august-17-1959-hebgen-lake-earthquake-and-landslide
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on July 05, 2017, 06:08:40 am


good article..long

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40492957

Giant 'white wanderer' poised to break free
Jonathan Amos
Science correspondent
4 hours ago
 
Everybody is fascinated by icebergs. The idea that you can have blocks of frozen water the size of cities, and bigger, sparks our sense of wonder.

British astronaut Tim Peake photographed one from orbit that would just about fit inside Central London's ring road. But at 26km by 13km (16 miles by 8 miles), it was a tiddler compared with the berg that is about to break away from the eastern side of the Antarctic Peninsula.

A rift has grown across the edge of the Larsen C Ice Shelf. A thin, 5km-long section of the floating shelf is now all that prevents a 6,600-sq-km berg from drifting away into the Weddell Sea.

Think about the size for a moment. That's more than a quarter the area of Wales.

(https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/238B/production/_96799090_1.png)

A big berg, certainly, but the largest in the satellite era was almost double this size


Keen to gather some more statistics, scientists have used the Cryosat spacecraft to run the rule over the putative iceberg.

As we all know, blocks of ice sit mostly under the water, and the European Space Agency (Esa) mission has a special radar altimeter that is able to figure out by how much.
From orbit, Cryosat senses the height of the ice sticking above the surface - the so-called freeboard. It's then a relatively simple calculation to work out the draft - the hidden part below water.

(https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/11601/production/_96796117_whatsubject.jpg) T.RONGE/AWI
An icy colossus: Big bergs need to be tracked because they can eventually reach shipping lanes

"Cryosat has these two radar antennas that allow us to get an extensive swath across the berg and enable us to build an elevation model," Dr Noel Gourmelen from the University of Edinburgh told BBC News.
“The average thickness calculated from this is 190m, but the largest draft is about 210m. It means the ice is standing about 30m above the water."
Dr Gourmelen says there is an estimated 1,155 cubic km of ice in the would-be berg.

>Iceberg 'doodles' trace climate history
>Antarctica's troublesome 'hairdryer winds'
>The graveyard of giant icebergs

Past tracking history suggests the berg will eventually arc north-east towards the Atlantic Ocean
This is all very useful information because it tells scientists a lot about where and how fast the Larsen object might move once it becomes free. And those are critical details if the berg were to reach shipping lanes to become a navigation hazard.
Bergs are influenced by winds and currents, of course, but a couple of other factors also come in to play simply because of the Larsen object's sheer bulk. Remarkably, one is a gravitational effect.

The mass of Antarctica pulls the water higher near its coasts compared with the centre of the ocean - by something like half a metre. The Larsen berg will actually slide down this slope. But that's only if its keel doesn’t then snag on the ocean bottom.

(https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/63F3/production/_95778552_174aa050-e395-4e54-a356-f5fd2b647d88.jpg)
Ploughmarks: The keels of icebergs will cut deep channels in sea-floor sediments
The waters close to Antarctica are shallow and there's a good chance the berg will dig in, gouging a huge trough in the seafloor as it then turns round. Cryosat's thickness information tells researchers where the berg can and cannot go.
It's called "kedging" - a term used by sailors, coined from the use of the kedge anchor to manipulate the course of a vessel, explains Dr Mark Drinkwater, one of Esa's senior Earth observation scientists.
“The icebergs often shoal and pivot or spin around their grounding point, resulting in stop and go motion or a change in direction. So, the iceberg from Larsen C could take some time before it escapes the shallow bathymetry of the western Weddell Sea."
Dr Anna Hogg from Leeds University added: "That said, it's not impossible it could simply become stuck on some high-rise topography on the ocean floor. We've seen that before where an iceberg becomes a semi-permanent ice island in the Weddell Sea."
The expectation, however, is that the berg will bump and grind its way northward in near-coast currents, along the Peninsula.

many more pics and text at link
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 06, 2017, 12:25:01 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1tIq9sct5c

MIAC #24 Visible Changes to Earth's Climate as the Grand Solar Minimum Intensifies

Adapt 2030
Published on Jun 29, 2017
A new report and video out from NASA about the upcoming "solar minimum", they phrased it so that there is no mention of the "grand solar minimum" which will send Earth's weather patterns out of sync, so I tried my best to fill in the missing pieces of the cosmic ray increases, strength of the next solar cycle, weather changes and electrical changes in our atmosphere, the electric universe and the cause - effect relation ship of it all. Mostly the crop loss aspect which is encountered by every society during a grand solar minimum.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrQoX03uYeY

Unprecedented - 30 wildfires/9 states - "Turning livestock loose to run from wildfires"

MrMBB333
Published on Jun 29, 2017
**Millions of acres are at risk it is so incredibly dry**
Nationally, 30 large fires have burned nearly 180,000 acres.

Twenty new large fires were reported in nine states. More than 8,000 firefighters and support personnel are assigned to wildfires across the country. Firefighters contained 11 wildfires yesterday.



At 2 p.m. MDT, the National Multiagency Coordinating Group increased the national preparedness level to PL3 due to the increase in large fire activity in multiple geographic areas.



Weather: A strong ridge of high pressure centered over the Yukon and Northwest Territories will keep eastern portions of the Alaskan interior warm and dry. There will be a slight chance for isolated thunderstorms along the North Slope and east of Fairbanks. Western portions of the state will be wet under the influence of a stalled frontal system.

A broad trough over the Pacific Northwest through the Northern Great Plains will keep temperatures near normal across much of the west. Slightly breezy conditions are expected across the Great Basin and Central Rockies.

Across the Southwest, monsoonal moisture will continue to ooze northward into New Mexico and southeastern Arizona and will lead to another round of scattered wet storms in the afternoon.


http://wildfiretoday.com


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbqkbyVg1BQ

Extreme UV in Massachusetts - "Full Throttle on 4th of July" - Team UV High in MA!

MrMBB333
Published on Jul 4, 2017
July 4, 2017: Relevant data you need to know...Be safe out there.


**TEAM UV Record UV reading from Massachusetts today....yes, Massachusetts!**

(Brian, the Field Operator detected his highest UV reading from Massachusetts which was the highest for the entire country on this day for our team!)

*What is Extreme UV?*

A UV Index reading of 11 or more means extreme risk of harm from unprotected sun exposure. Take all precautions because unprotected skin and eyes can burn in minutes. 
Try to avoid sun exposure between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m.
If outdoors, seek shade and wear protective clothing, a wide-brimmed hat, and UV-blocking sunglasses.
Generously apply broad spectrum SPF 30+ non-toxic sunscreen every 2 hours, even on cloudy days, and after swimming or sweating.


Watch out for bright surfaces, like sand, water and snow, which reflect UV and increase exposure. *Excellent Sunblock Brand* "BADGER"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WavIkTybKXg

Record Cold July in Arctic & Squaw Valley & Tahoe First Time Ever July 4th Skiing

Adapt 2030
Published on Jul 4, 2017
Contrary to what the media is rattling off about above normal temperatures in the Arctic, the Danish Meteorological Institute (DMI) shows that temperatures are record low and just 1C above freezing. Also for the first time ever in history Squaw Valley and Tahoe ski areas will remain open for July 4th skiing and beyond. There is still so much snow up in the mountains that mountain biking and hiking is dangerous because of the still deep snows.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rR-Nt8iplQ

*Unprecedented* - 400,000 evacuated as 15.6 inches of rain falls in 4 hours!

MrMBB333
Published on Jul 5, 2017
Some 400,000 people have been ordered or advised to evacuate on Wednesday, July 5, 2017 after extreme amounts of rain hit western Japan, causing major floods and landslides.

As of late afternoon (local time), at least one person has been killed and 6 are still missing, believed to be buried under mud or swept away by raging rivers. Parts of Fukuoka Prefecture saw 398 mm (15.6 inches) of rain within just 4 hours, more than the region usually receives during the entire month of July. Heavy rain is expected to continue at least until Thursday night.

Japan Meteorological Agency
http://www.jma.go.jp/en/gms/smallc.html?area=6&element=0&time=201707052050
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 06, 2017, 01:36:51 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zcb6yBh5DQ

Catastrophic flood affects 10 million - 40,000+ homes collapse - MASSIVE river sets record

MrMBB333
Published on Jul 4, 2017
Massive rivers in central and south central China are at maximum capacity and the overflow is flooding millions of people from historic rainfall that began just a few days ago.

Dozens of people have perished and many are missing. 10's of thousands of homes have been wiped out by the incredible force of the flood waters.

At least 33 people have been killed and 15 are still missing since June 22, 2017 in at least 8 central and southern provinces of China, including Hunan, Hubei, Anhui, Sichuan, and Guizhou, China’s Ministry of Civil Affairs said today.

Water levels in more than 60 rivers have recently risen above warning levels. Xiangjiang River in Changsha, the capital of Hunan, reached a record high of 39.51 meters (129.6 feet) early July 3, higher than the previous record of 39.18 meters (128.54 feet) set by a massive flood in 1998.



Between 100 and 300 mm (3.9 - 11.8 inches) of rain were recorded since June 29 in central and southern Guizhou, Guangxi, Hunan, northern Jiangxi, eastern Hubei, southern Anhui and other parts. Guilin, Guangxi, Jiujiang, Loudi and Xiangtan recorded between 420 and 486 mm (16.5 - 19.1 inches).

On July 1, Guilin, Wuzhou, Yongzhou, and Xiangtan saw between 200 - 240 mm (7.9 and 9.4 inches), Gullin registered between 250 - 407 mm (9.8 - 16 inches), and the largest three-hour rainfall of 150 - 203 mm (5.9 - 8 inches).



In Hunan Province, the worst hit, floods affected 6.616 million people, 24 people were killed and 8 are still missing. 16 000 houses collapsed and 171 000 were damaged.

Bangladesh could see the same in coming days as climate conditions are favorable for more intense flooding events. Bangladesh is home to over 160 million people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGfs7aMdRTs

Media Black out on EXTREME WEATHER in Spain? Plus Solar Update!

The Grand Solar Minimum
Published on Jul 5, 2017
Why are no major outlets reporting?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1evwDQneHJ4

Huge energy beams appear over the South Atlantic on MIMIC - 1000 miles wide!

MrMBB333
July 5 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7TrSTNISxk

Yellowstone Volcano: Earthquake M5.8 150 miles From Yellowstone, Damage, Power Out, Gas leaks

Mary Greeley
Published on Jul 6, 2017
Lincoln, Montana is without power. Broken windows in Butte, MT.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1CbElP5ou0&t=317s

7/6/17 4am earthquake update dutchsinse - Missing earthquake consequences - YouTube


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yao36qeiDg

7/6/17 5am earthquake update dutchsinse - M5.2 hits near Vanatu

dutchsince


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-rWYFnMMCs

Yellowstone is Freaking Out - 5 8 Mag Earthquake & Yearly Levels reached in 1 month, July, 2017


Leak Project
Published on Jul 6, 2017
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 08, 2017, 07:57:35 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGgE3t8FpNU

Utica Flash Flood: State of Emergency

WeatherWar101
Published on Jul 2, 2017
A different community gets washed away three times a week, and Mother Nature, has exactly nothing to do with it. Anyone with eyes can look at GOES radar every day, and see it for themselves. Yesterday it was Upstate New York, today it is going to be the middle of the country, and it will be somewhere else tomorrow.



So, as Americans go about trying desperately trying to get a brief respite from wage slavery and incessant meme-driven misdirection and distraction, they will be forced to contend with flash floods, hail, and tornadoes.

Happy “Independence Day.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS-n6u4zwV8

7/08/2017 -- USA on Earthquake watch + M5.6 strikes W. Pacific as expected
dutchsinse
Published on Jul 8, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeSGmzdDm-A

Lightning Strikes Split Cone Geyser @ Yellowstone Geyser Basin
dutchsinse
Published on Jul 8, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu7L5zVwB9M

Blind Raccoon and his bodyguards
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on July 12, 2017, 06:40:25 am


http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/giant-antarctic-iceberg-breaks-free-of-larsen-c-ice-shelf/ar-BBEh4LP?li=BBnb7Kz

Giant Antarctic iceberg breaks free of Larsen C ice shelf
 The Guardian The Guardian
Nicola Davis
3 hrs ago


Photo gallery by Reuters

A giant iceberg twice the size of Luxembourg has broken off an ice shelf on the Antarctic peninsula and is now adrift in the Weddell Sea.

Reported to be “hanging by a thread” last month, the iceberg was found to have split off from the Larsen C section of the Larsen ice shelf on Wednesday morning after scientists examined the latest satellite data from the area.

The Larsen C ice shelf is now 10% smaller than before the iceberg broke off – or “calved” – an event that researchers say has changed the shape of the Antarctic peninsula.

At 5,800 sq km the new iceberg is half as big as the record-holding iceberg B-15 which split off from the Ross ice shelf in the year 2000, but it is nonetheless believed to be among the 10 largest icebergs ever recorded.

“It is a really major event in terms of the size of the ice tablet that we’ve got now drifting away,” said Anna Hogg, an expert in satellite observations of glaciers from the University of Leeds.

The huge crack that spawned the new iceberg grew over a period of years, but between 25 May and 31 May alone, the rift grew by 17km – the largest increase since January. Between the 24 June and 27 June the movement of the ice sped up, reaching a rate of more than 10 metres per day for the already-severed section.

But in the end it wasn’t a simple break – data collected just days before the iceberg calved revealed that the rift had branched multiple times, meaning that several small icebergs have also been formed.


Unlike thin layers of sea ice, ice shelves are floating masses of ice, hundreds of metres thick, which are attached to huge, grounded ice sheets. These ice shelves act like buttresses, holding back and slowing down the movement into the sea of the glaciers that feed them.

“There is enough ice in Antarctica that if it all melted, or even just flowed into the ocean, sea levels [would] rise by 60 metres,” said Martin Siegert, professor of geosciences at Imperial College London and co-director of the Grantham Institute for Climate Change & Environment.

But while the birth of the huge iceberg might look dramatic, experts say it will not itself result in sea level rises. “It’s like your ice cube in your gin and tonic – it is already floating and if it melts it doesn’t change the volume of water in the glass by very much at all,” said Hogg.

Following the collapse of the Larsen A ice shelf in 1995 and Larsen B in 2002, all eyes have turned to Larsen C.

But Siegert is quick to point out that the calving of the new iceberg is not a sign that the ice shelf is about to disintegrate, stressing that ice shelves naturally break up as they extend further out into the ocean. “I am not unduly concerned about it – it is not the first mega iceberg ever to have formed,” he said.

Andrew Shepherd, professor of Earth Observation at Leeds University, agreed. “Everyone loves a good iceberg, and this one is a corker,” he said. “But despite keeping us waiting for so long, I’m pretty sure that Antarctica won’t be shedding a tear when it’s gone because the continent loses plenty of its ice this way each year, and so it’s really just business as usual!”

Adrian Luckman, professor of glaciology at Swansea University and leader of the UK’s Midas project which is focused on the state of the ice shelf, said that while the ice shelf might continue to shed icebergs, others have suggested it might regrow.

He added that it took seven years after the release of a large iceberg from Larsen B before the ice shelf became unstable and disintegrated, and stressed that while large melt ponds were seen on Larsen B prior to its collapse - features which are thought to have affected the structure of the ice shelf - those seen on Larsen C are far smaller and are not even present at this time of year.

While climate change is accepted to have played a role in the wholesale disintegration of the Larsen A and Larsen B ice shelves to the north, Luckman emphasised that there is no evidence that the calving of the giant iceberg is linked to such processes.

Twila Moon, a glacier expert at the US National Ice and Snow Data Center agrees but, she said, climate change could have made the situation more likely.

“Certainly the changes that we see on ice shelves, such as thinning because of warmer ocean waters, are the sort [of changes] that are going to make it easier for these events to happen,” she said.

The progress of the rift, and the loss of the iceberg, has been carefully followed by analysis of radar images from the European Space Agency’s Sentinel-1 mission, which provides data from the region every six days. “Before we would have been lucky if we had got one satellite image a year of an event like this, so we would not have been able to watch it unfold,” said Hogg, pointing out that the radar system allows data to be collected whatever the weather and in the dark, while technological advances mean more data that can be downloaded than for previous satellites.

The news of the giant iceberg comes after US president Donald Trump announced that the US will be withdrawing from the 2015 Paris climate accord – an agreement signed by more than 190 countries to tackle global warming. “Truly I am dismayed,” said Moon of the move.

Now at the mercy of the ocean currents, the newly calved iceberg could last for decades, depending on whether it enters warmer waters or bumps into other icebergs or ice shelves.

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: micjer on July 12, 2017, 07:39:27 am

Quote
But while the birth of the huge iceberg might look dramatic, experts say it will not itself result in sea level rises. “It’s like your ice cube in your gin and tonic – it is already floating and if it melts it doesn’t change the volume of water in the glass by very much at all,” said Hogg.


Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on August 01, 2017, 09:13:30 pm






ahhhhhhhhh can the great lakes have too much water ?










http://woodtv.com/blog/2017/06/23/great-lakes-water-levels-90/

Great Lakes Water Levels June 23, 2017
By Bill Steffen under Bill's Blog, News, Weather

All of the Great Lakes water levels remain well above average. 

The level of Lake Michigan/Huron is up 4″ in the last month, up 3 inches year-to-year and is now 15″ above the June average level.  Lake Superior is also up 4″ in the last month and up 3″ year-to-year.  Superior is now 11″ above the June average level and only 2″ below the all-time highest June level set in 1986.  Lake Erie is unchanged in the last month and is up 9″ in the last year.  Erie is 19″ above the June long-term average.  Lake Ontario is down 4″ in the last month, but it’s still 30″ higher than one year ago!  Ontario is still at the highest June level ever.  It’s 62″ higher than the lowest all-time June level set in 1935. 





http://www.lre.usace.army.mil/Missions/Great-Lakes-Information/Great-Lakes-Water-Levels/Water-Level-Forecast/Weekly-Great-Lakes-Water-Levels/

ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS WEEKLY GREAT LAKES WATER LEVEL UPDATE
Jul 28, 2017
 
WEATHER CONDITIONS
Over the last week temperatures in the Great Lakes Basin have generally been above average. Precipitation fell through much of the basin this past week, but heading into next week expect less rainfall.  Over the entire month precipitation has been just below average over the entire Great Lakes Basin. The Lake Ontario Basin has received the most precipitation while the Lake Superior Basin has seen the least. The basin is expected to see more average summer temperatures over the weekend.
LAKE LEVEL CONDITIONS
 Each of the Great Lakes remains above their respective long term July average and are expected to remain above average for the rest of the month. All of the lakes except Lakes Erie and Ontario have risen over the last 30 days with Lake Superior being 2 inches above its level a month ago. Lakes Michigan-Huron and St. Clair are 2 and 3  inches above their level a month ago, respectively, while Lake Ontario is 6 inches lower than last month. As the summer progresses, the Great Lakes system is expected to see the lakes begin their seasonal declines. Lake Superior is expected to remain about the same over the next month while Lakes Michigan-Huron, St. Clair, Erie and Ontario are expected to decline 1, 3, 5, and 8 inches respectively over the next month. See our Daily Levels web page for more water level information.
FORECASTED MONTHLY OUTFLOWS/CHANNEL CONDITIONS
Lake Superior’s outflow through the St. Marys River is projected to be above average in July. Lake Michigan-Huron’s outflow into the St. Clair River, and Lake St. Clair’s outflow through the Detroit River are also predicted to be above average. Lake Erie’s outflow into the Niagara River is forecasted to be above average, and outflow of Lake Ontario into the St. Lawrence River is projected to be above average for the month of July as well.
ALERTS
Official records are based on monthly average water levels and not daily water levels. Users of the Great Lakes, connecting channels and St. Lawrence River should keep informed of current conditions before undertaking any activities that could be affected by changing water levels. Mariners should utilize navigation charts and refer to current water level readings. Ice information can be found at the National Ice Center’s website.
SUPERIOR
MICH-HURON
ST. CLAIR
ERIE
ONTARIO
Forecasted Water Level for Jul 28, 2017 (feet)
602.89
580.74
576.48
573.49
248.16
chart at link



http://www.twincities.com/2017/06/13/great-lakes-water-levels-this-summer-expected-to-be-highest-in-decades/

Great Lakes water levels this summer expected to be highest in decades
The Great Lakes Hydraulics and Hydrology Office at the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers’ Detroit district announced Monday in its six-month water level forecast that summer water levels on lakes Superior, Michigan-Huron, St. Clair and Erie will be at their highest since 1996-1998.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on August 30, 2017, 08:37:35 pm
  well when you can't find anything on line about climate change then we must assume that nothing is happening..i mean if something WAS happening it would be reported..right?...nah it would only be fake news
we are so f**kin screwed


http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40686984

Sea level fears as Greenland darkens
David Shukman     24 July 2017

photo
The Greenland ice sheet covers an area about seven times the size of the UK
Scientists are "very worried" that the melting of the Greenland ice sheet could accelerate and raise sea levels more than expected.
They say warmer conditions are encouraging algae to grow and darken the surface.
Dark ice absorbs more solar radiation than clean white ice so warms up and melts more rapidly.
Currently the Greenland ice sheet is adding up to 1mm a year to the rise in the global average level of the oceans.
It is the largest mass of ice in the northern hemisphere covering an area about seven times the size of the United Kingdom and reaching up to 3km (2 miles) in thickness.
This means that the average sea level would rise around the world by about seven metres, more than 20ft, if it all melted.
That is why Greenland, though remote, is a focus of research which has direct relevance to major coastal cities as far apart as Miami, London and Shanghai and low-lying areas in Bangladesh and parts of Britain.
Algae were first observed on the Greenland ice sheet more than a century ago but until recently its potential impact was ignored. Only in the last few years have researchers started to explore how the microscopically small plants could affect future melting.
A five-year UK research project known as Black and Bloom is under way to investigate the different species of algae and how they might spread, and then to use this knowledge to improve computer projections of future sea level rise.
The possibility of biologically inspired melting was not included in the estimates for sea level rise published by the UN's climate panel, the IPCC, in its latest report in 2013.

vid

That study said the worst-case scenario was a rise of 98cm by the end of the century.
One concern now is that rising temperatures will allow algae to flourish not only on the slopes of the narrow margins of the ice-sheet but also on the flat areas in the far larger interior where melting could happen on a much bigger scale.
We joined the latest phase of research in which scientists set up camp on the ice-sheet to gather accurate measurements of the "albedo" or the amount of solar radiation reflected by the surface.
White snow reflects up to 90% of solar radiation while dark patches of algae will only reflect about 35% or even as little as 1% in the blackest spots.
When we flew by helicopter onto the ice sheet, the rolling landscape seemed surprisingly grey - my first impression was that it looked dirty.

Much of the surface was covered with what looked like patches of soot and it was pockmarked with countless holes at the bottom of which were pitch-black layers of a mix of algae, bacteria and minerals known as cryoconite.
Prof Martyn Tranter of Bristol University, who is leading the project, told me:
"People are very worried about the possibility that the ice sheet might be melting faster and faster in the future.
"We suspect that in a warming climate these dark algae will grow over larger and larger parts of the Greenland ice sheet and it might well be that they will cause more melting and an acceleration of sea level rise.
"Our project is trying to understand just how much melting might occur."
Over the last 20 years, Greenland has been losing more ice than it gains through snowfall in winter - a change in a natural balance that normally keeps the ice-sheet stable.

And one of the project scientists, Dr Andrew Tedstone, a glaciologist and also of Bristol University, said that over much of the same period, images from the MODIS satellite showed a darkening trend with the years of greatest dark producing most meltwater.
He said: "We still don't think we've reached a point where we've seen the maximum darkness that we're going to see in this area so the fieldwork we're doing is to try to find out in a warming climate 'do we think the area is going to get any darker than we've already seen in the last 15 years?'"
Earlier research had found that the ice sheet is covered with a range of contaminants carried on the winds including dust and soot from as far away as Canadian prairie fires and the industrial heartlands of China, America and Europe.
But studies over the past five years have shown that the majority of the dark material may be biological with different kinds of algae turning the ice black, brown, green and even mauve.
"This is a living landscape," according to Dr Joe Cook, a glacial microbiologist at Sheffield University.
"This is an extremely difficult place for anything to live but, as we look around us, all this darkness we can see on the ice surface is living - algae, microbes, living and reproducing in the ice sheet and changing its colour."

"We know they're very widespread and we know that they're very dark and we know that that's accelerating melt but that's not something that's built into any of our climate projections - and that's something that needs to change."
The final phase of the Black and Bloom project involves weaving the new factor of biological darkening into climate models to come up with revised estimates for future sea level rise.
And, as Dr Cook explained, the retreat of the Greenland ice sheet does not need to be total to have a widespread and damaging impact.
"When we say the ice sheet is melting faster, no one saying it's all going to melt in next decade or the next 100 years or even the next 1,000 years but it doesn't all have to melt for more people to be in danger - only a small amount has to melt to threaten millions in coastal communities around world."
Meanwhile, another factor that may be driving the melting has been identified by an Austrian member of the team, Stefan Hofer, a PhD student at Bristol.
In a paper recently published in Science Advances, he analysed satellite imagery and found that over the past 20 years there has been a 15% decrease in cloud cover over Greenland in the summer months.
"It was definitely a 'wow' moment," he told me.
Although temperature is an obvious driver of melting, the paper estimated that two-thirds of additional melting, above the long-term average, was attributable to clearer skies.
What is not known is how this might affect the algae. Their darker pigments are believed to be a protection from ultra violet light - so more sunshine might encourage that process of darkening or prove to be damaging to them.
The Black and Bloom project, funded by the Natural Environment Research Council (Nerc), aims to publish its new projections for sea level rise in two years' time.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on August 30, 2017, 08:41:34 pm


http://www.nature.com/news/us-science-envoy-resigns-in-protest-at-trump-policies-1.22510

US science envoy resigns in protest at Trump policies
Energy researcher Daniel Kammen faults US president’s positions on climate change and energy and his failure to condemn white supremacists.

Jeff Tollefson
23 August 2017

An energy researcher at the University of California, Berkeley, resigned his post as a science envoy for the US Department of State on 21 August, citing US President Donald Trump’s “attacks on the core values of the United States”.

In a resignation letter addressed to Trump, Daniel Kammen joined political leaders from both major parties who have criticized the president’s equivocal response to violent demonstrations by white supremacists in Charlottesville, Virginia, on 12 August. Kammen also condemned the Trump administration’s “destructive” policies on energy and the environment, which he said have affected his work as a science envoy. Such policies include the president’s decision to pull the United States out of the 2015 Paris climate pact.

“Your presence in the White House harms the United States domestically and abroad and threatens life on this planet,” wrote Kammen, whose term as an envoy was set to end next month. The first letter of each paragraph in his message forms an acrostic that spells out the word “impeach”.

Former president Barack Obama created the science envoy programme in 2010 to boost outreach and partnerships with predominantly Muslim countries. The effort, which is run by the state department, has since expanded to cover more countries. Kammen is one of 18 scientists who have taken part in the envoy programme; his work in Africa and the Middle East has focused on national security, jobs and sustainable energy.

The White House did not immediately respond to requests for comment. A state department official confirmed that Kammen was one of three active science envoys and said the department is in the process of appointing more. The official declined to comment on Kammen’s resignation letter.

Andrew Rosenberg, who heads the Center for Science and Democracy at the Union of Concerned Scientists in Cambridge, Massachusetts, says that Kammen’s letter illustrates the moral and ethical quandaries that Trump’s policies have created for scientists who serve the US government.

“For the science envoys like Dan, where you are going and representing the United States, it’s particularly difficult,” Rosenberg says. “It’s a personal struggle that everyone has to go through.”

Another science envoy, ecologist Thomas Lovejoy of George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia, says that he understands and respects Kammen’s decision to resign. Nonetheless, Lovejoy has elected to continue in his work on biodiversity and sustainability with Amazon rainforest nations, including Peru, Columbia and Brazil. That includes working to advance an agreement between the United States and Peru to address a spike in illegal gold mining in the western Amazon.

“I’ve seen how catalytic this kind of thing can be,” Lovejoy says of his envoy efforts. “I’m just personally going ahead and doing what I think needs to be done.”


From nature.com
US government disbands climate-science advisory committee
20 August 2017
Fears rise for US climate report as Trump officials take reins
01 August 2017
Seek climate advice through established routes
01 August 2017
Trump pulls United States out of Paris climate agreement
01 June 2017
Trump agenda threatens US legacy of science diplomacy
27 January 2017
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: dreb13 on September 22, 2017, 04:54:58 am
Major water receding again: Ocean mysteriously disappears in Brazil and anomalous tides in Chile

"There is something really weird happening along the Atlantic and Pacific coasts these last weeks.
Water is receding along the Atlantic coast, while Pacific waters are expanding and flooding parts of Chile. And this exact same phenomenon occurred two days ago AGAIN.

Two weeks ago, the sea mysteriously receded in Uruguay and Brazil. At the same time, on the other side of the South American continent, huge waves were crashing on the beaches of northern Chile."

http://strangesounds.org/2017/08/major-water-receding-again-ocean-mysteriously-disappears-in-brazil-video.html.


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Apparently this occured back in August of 2017 but I don't see much info from mainstream news outlets.

Video compitation of some of the events.  Pay no mind to commentary, I added video just for the substance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZwU-n3P9fA


Any thoughts ArMaP?  Isn't this around your neck of the woods?
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on September 22, 2017, 06:10:59 am
Any thoughts ArMaP?  Isn't this around your neck of the woods?
It depends, the Atlantic, yes, but on the north side, I'm in Portugal, not in Brasil. :)

But we have at least one member from Brasil, RUSSO.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: dreb13 on September 22, 2017, 06:54:26 am
Sorry, For some reason I thought you were in Chile.  Must be another timeline collapse changing things again.  ;D
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: fansongecho on September 23, 2017, 02:16:40 am
Roll Call -

Its September 23rd 2017 10:12 am in the UK, and you cannot imagine my relief that I woke up alive this am!

I was fully expecting a event of biblical proportions to have affected me/Earth after seeing and hearing so many vids and news articles about the alignment of so many solar bodies, and that pesky brown dwarf, and its companions coming to a solar system near me/us..  :) ;)

Is everyone else who is normally here, still alive and kicking/not screaming and in general good health ?   8)

Sound off..  ;D
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on September 23, 2017, 08:19:40 am
I'm still here, but we don't know what time zone the Apocalypse uses, so it's better to wait a little longer.  :P
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on September 24, 2017, 04:14:43 am
Well it is 7:12 am here, 9/24/17... 8) anyone hear anything from rdunk?  :P
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on October 29, 2017, 03:17:49 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmlxpZjnXAE

Ghost Of Sandy/Tropical Cyclone 18 Forms In Carribean/S.Fla. Watch

BPEarthWatch
Published on Oct 27, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPCTkTqsVGY

Heads Up S.Florida/T.S. Philippe/Midnight Tonight

BPEarthWatch
Published on Oct 28, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPaeyu1uLQ8

Tropical Storm Weekend for Florida-Weather Channel Live-Why The Storm Be So Strong!

Published on Oct 28, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDl1ontmiKU

Hurricane force winds coming to Upper NE/New Brunswick- 90 to 100 mph gusts!

MrMBB333
Published on Oct 28, 2017

October 28, 2017: Possible 90 to 103 mph winds gusts are being forecasted for multiple areas across the upper NE US including New Brunswick. Widespread pockets of 'anomalous' wind gusts will be persistent beginning in the overnight hours of Monday October 30, lasting all morning and most of the afternoon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBOHJZUUDNw

TROPICAL Storm PHILIPPE! NEW YORK/NJ/MA 100 MPH WINDS! FLORIDA Tropical Storm WATCHES!

In2ThinAir
Published on Oct 28, 2017

Florida Under Tropical Storm Watches! and already feeling effects of Tropical Storm Philippe as its now between CUBA and South Florida. 3-5 Inches of rain and Tornado warnings spawning over night in FLORIDA 9 Northeast states under warnings and watches as PHILIPPE will gain a good amount of speed bringing wave heights of over 30 feet off some coasts from DE all the way up to MA.

6-8 inches of rain expected in Costal areas between New Jersey and RI. Power outages and Flooding set to be big issues with this system.
Meteorologists are warning of major power outages for 9 states in the Northeast.

Being that i am right in the path of this thing I have already begun to prepare for loss of power but the wind gusts of up to 100 MPH will indeed bring down trees and add to the already vulnerable flooding areas. Not much to say about this besides to prepare for the worst.

Any little shift between now and Tomorrow night could bring significant changes to FL as well as the effects in the North east Ill bring any significant changed as we watch out 18th NAMED storm predicted to really slam the Northeast the hardest it has been since Super Storm Sandy 5 years ago.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dWXKhBYoKk

UPDATE: CAT 3 Hurricane Force Wind Gusts Forecast for North Central NH!

MrMBB333
Published on Oct 28, 2017

October 28, 2017: *Update/MONDAY OCT 30 1:00AM Is the forecasted to to pay attention to.* The storm forecast for the upper NE US this coming Monday has changed. BIG winds!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsaxLvOvkvg

Tropical Storm Philippe outlook 10/29/17 - 7am
WPTV News | West Palm Beach Florida

Published on Oct 29, 2017
The latest on Tropical Storm Philippe.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on October 29, 2017, 03:29:49 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPUxitPsfEU

Crops crushed and 1000's of structures/cars damaged by GIANT hail!

MrMBB333
Published on Oct 26, 2017

October 26, 2017: **Climate Chaos** / Giant Hail
An intense hailstorm swept through the municipality of Formosa in northern Argentina late Wednesday afternoon, October 25, 2017, causing severe damage


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwiChl9Tf4U

*Weather INSANITY* - Hail storm drops nearly 5ft in 15 minutes - Say WHAT?

MrMBB333
Published on Oct 27, 2017

An astounding 4.9ft of hail accumulation is being reported form a storm yesterday, October 26, 2017, occurring in a mere 15 minutes!

https://watchers.news/2017/10/27/extreme-hail-accumulations-in-cordoba-argentina/
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on October 29, 2017, 04:43:23 pm
Meanwhile, in Portugal, we are having Summer temperatures (in fact, higher than many days in last August), around 30º C, and this month it only rained for 1 1/2 days.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Shasta56 on October 30, 2017, 07:42:54 am
Denver is still recovering from the one in May.  Colorado Mills Mall is hoping to be open for holiday shopping.  I'm not a big fan of commercialism, but a lot of people were put out of work.

Shasta
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on October 31, 2017, 02:49:01 pm

i was watching a documentary on how many nukes have been tested over the years and got to thinking about it

couldn't this change the weather?..short and long term ?

couldn't this be a reason for cancer, Alzheimer's, autism,
sexual/gender identity, etc ?
and other things that seem to have just popped up since the late 40's when the heavy testing commenced ?

we and our beautiful planet have been heavily exposed since then

just thinking outloud....

and looking around i guess i'm not the first to have that thought

sigh   :(    :'(


As of 1993, worldwide, 520 atmospheric nuclear explosions (including 8 underwater) have been conducted with a total yield of 545 megaton (Mt): 217 Mt from fission and 328 Mt from fusion, while the estimated number of underground nuclear tests conducted in the period from 1957 to 1992 is 1,352 explosions with a total ...
List of nuclear weapons tests - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests

The Nuclear Testing Tally | Arms Control Association
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/nucleartesttally
Sep 3, 2017 - Since the first nuclear test explosion on July 16, 1945, at least eight nations have detonated 2,056 nuclear test explosions at dozens of test sites from Lop Nor in China, to the atolls of the Pacific, to Nevada, to Algeria where France conducted its first nuclear device, to western Australia where the U.K. exploded ...


A Time-Lapse Map of Every Nuclear Explosion Since 1945 - by Isao Hashimoto
aConcernedHuman
Published on Oct 24, 2010
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Japanese artist Isao Hashimoto has created a beautiful, undeniably scary time-lapse map of the 2053 nuclear explosions which have taken place between 1945 and 1998, beginning with the Manhattan Project's "Trinity" test near Los Alamos and concluding with Pakistan's nuclear tests in May of 1998. This leaves out North Korea's two alleged nuclear tests in this past decade (the legitimacy of both of which is not 100% clear).

Each nation gets a blip and a flashing dot on the map whenever they detonate a nuclear weapon, with a running tally kept on the top and bottom bars of the screen. Hashimoto, who began the project in 2003, says that he created it with the goal of showing"the fear and folly of nuclear weapons." It starts really slow — if you want to see real action, skip ahead to 1962 or so — but the buildup becomes overwhelming.

http://www.ctbto.org/specials/1945-19...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY



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turn the sound off on this one..music sucks


5 Declassified Nuclear Explosions Caught on Film
Published on Mar 18, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n82pfo-LzXY


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oh yeah and then there are these

Since 1950, there have been 32 nuclear weapon accidents, known as "Broken Arrows." A Broken Arrow is defined as an unexpected event involving nuclear weapons that result in the accidental launching, firing, detonating, theft or loss of the weapon. To date, six nuclear weapons have been lost and never recovered.
Broken Arrows: Nuclear Weapons Accidents | atomicarchive.com
www.atomicarchive.com/Almanac/Brokenarrows_static.shtml

http://www.atomicarchive.com/Almanac/Brokenarrows_static.shtml
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: micjer on November 02, 2017, 05:57:40 am
What an insane world we live in.  Why so many tests.  Obviously it works.  Like a kid with firecrackers.  Lets blow things up!!!!

Radiation in these test areas must be high.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on November 02, 2017, 02:13:30 pm
Radiation in these test areas must be high.
Some people say that's why there were so many cancer cases among the cast and crew of the movie "The Conqueror", creating a "cancer controversy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(film)#Cancer_controversy)".
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on November 03, 2017, 02:33:06 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9ZvdwMK-A

Butter Shortages, Black Death in Madagascar & Massive Hail

Adapt 2030
Published on Oct 29, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8_uz1I9sKw

HURRICANE RINA?!
Models Showing Strong Possibility & HISTORICAL Recap 2017 Hurricane Season!

In2ThinAir
Published on Nov 1, 2017

**PLEASE READ! SKIP TO @12:04 FOR HURRICANE RINA INFO!**

Up Until then we talk current Stats and Records broken!



-In this video we go over some of the insane stats from this still active Hurricane season as well as the growing possibility of HURRICANE RINA!



-SIGNIFICANT Stats SO FAR-

$317 BILLION in estimated damage (MOST EVER)

**16 Named Storms 

**6 Tropical Storms 

**10 Hurricanes (All 10 were consecutive in a 10 week span)

**(2) CAT-5; (2) CAT-4; (2) CAT-3; (2) CAT-2; (2) CAT-1

**6 MAJOR Hurricanes of CAT3+

**$317 BILLION in estimated damage (MOST EVER)

**MOST of the $317 BILLION (HARVEY/IRMA/MARIA)

**Tropical Storm ARLENE (First Tropical Storm to form in the month of APRIL since 2003)


We also take a look at past significant NOVEMBER storms in the Atlantic as well as cover WHY it is that JUNE 1st to NOVEMBER 30TH are just guideline dates.



***Every 5 years for the past 100 years in the month of NOVEMBER we have had 1-2 significant storms in the Atlantic and considering this seasons rare activity I would not be surprised if we see 1 or more Significant storms before we can actually say goodbye to the 2017 Hurricane Season.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Z_EZR-OOQ

Record Snow in B.C Canada We Don't Need Geoengineering to Cool the Planet

Adapt 2030
Published on Nov 1, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTABTPg34zI

-Ominous Earthquakes Rock French Alps
-Panic as Tremors Shake La Palma Volcano
-Planet X on Live News

Skywatch Media News
Published on Nov 3, 2017

The French Alps region has been rocked by more than 140 tremors in the past 40 days, Seismologists in France believe that these small earthquakes are signaling the arrival of large tremors which will bring about devastating results in the area.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2C6xwsqQgc

Space Weather, 7 Stories, Flare Mechanism | S0 News

Suspicious0bservers
Published on Nov 2, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaGFVOJTHqA

When Food is the Most Precious Commodity on Earth,
Smart Contract Security is the Next Wave

Adapt 2030
Published on Oct 9, 2017
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on November 09, 2017, 07:37:23 am
well if this one and yellowstone go off together we're all done for..

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/a-massive-heat-source-was-just-discovered-under-antarctica-driving-ice-melt-and-volcanism/ar-BBEJrQ1

A Massive Heat Source Was Just Discovered Under Antarctica, Driving Ice Melt And Volcanism
 Forbes Forbes
Trevor Nace, Contributor
22 hrs ago

Recent discoveries have revealed just how volcanic Antarctica really is, despite being hidden underneath massive ice sheets. However, up until now, there remained significant debate as to what is causing the unusual amount of volcanic activity under an area covered in ice.

Recent research found the source of magma that is fueling the volcanoes underneath Antarctica. The source, a massive upwelling of mantle magma, also known as a hotspot. This is a similar mechanism that produced the Hawaiian Islands and fuels volcanic and geothermal activity in Yellowstone.

There were two key reasons this discovery was difficult to come by, despite significant research.

The first is the difficulty of measuring anything underneath kilometers of ice. Typically geoscientists gain a better understanding of the Earth’s inner workings by sending sound waves into the ground and measuring the time and angle at which they return to the surface. Using complex mathematical algorithms, geophysicists are able to reconstruct a three-dimensional picture of the subsurface. However, this was difficult to do when any acoustic signal has to travel through kilometers of chaotic ice, causing significant noise in the subsurface “picture” beneath Antarctica.

The second is the counterintuitive nature of having a massive heat source underneath an area that is covered with kilometers of ice. With an average ice sheet thickness of 2.16 km and a maximum thickness of around 4.7 km, it’s hard to believe there is a massive heat source similar to the one in Yellowstone sitting beneath the ice. How has the heat source not prevented ice build up?

To tackle these questions the research team used a numerical model to help constrain the heat required to produce the melting we currently measure in Antarctica. While direct measurements underneath Antarctica are difficult and few, there are numerous measurements of meltwater outflow. This allowed the research team to constrain their model.

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It is well known that there are rivers and lakes beneath Antarctica that drain meltwater to the ocean. Some lakes are as large as Lake Erie and can rapidly drain into the ocean, causing a sudden sinking of the overlying ice.

The numerical model, using constrained melt rates, were able to predict heat sources underneath Antarctica. The team found that the heat coming from beneath Antarctica is constrained to 150 milliwatts per square meter, with a higher heat rate causing too much melting as compared to what is measured. To compare that with other areas, the average heat flux from the Earth is 40-60 milliwatts per square meter and it reaches an average of 200 milliwatts beneath Yellowstone National Park.

Interestingly, the team found one location where the heat flow required jumped to 150-180 milliwatts underneath Antarctica. This area is the presumed source of the massive mantle upwelling and heat source. The Marie Byrd Land mantle plume appears to be the primary driver of volcanic activity in Antarctica. Geologists believe the mantle plume formed 50 to 110 million years ago when Antarctica was not covered in ice. Since then, the mantle plume has continually worked to heat up Antarctica, continually working to melt the overlying ice.

MORE FROMTrevor Nace, Contributor

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Vast rivers and waterfalls discovered across Antarctica | The ...
www.independent.co.uk/.../antarctica-rivers-waterfalls-discovered-south-pole-ice-shel...
Apr 19, 2017 - Water is flowing across Antarctica in vast rivers, lakes and waterfalls and has been for decades, scientists have discovered. ... This included rivers of up to 120km, 80km-long lakes and waterfalls that were 120m across. ... “I think most polar scientists have considered water moving ...

Antarctica's massive lakes, rivers, and streams could help us ...
https://www.theverge.com/.../antarctica-meltwater-widespread-drainage-system-ice-sh...
Apr 19, 2017 - Antarctica isn't a huge, static block of ice where very little goes on. For the first time, scientists are getting a sense of just how active the ...


We Just Found Out Antarctica Is Covered in Rivers - Gizmodo
https://gizmodo.com/we-just-found-out-antarctica-is-covered-in-rivers-1794394985
Apr 19, 2017 - Their analysis revealed widespread systems of streams, rivers and ponds—roughly 700 in total—mostly rimming the fringes of the Antarctic ice ...
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on November 11, 2017, 06:41:13 am


weird and scary
what about small and repeated amounts of radiation ?


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-radioactive-cloud-from-russia-swept-over-europe-%E2%80%94-and-no-one-knows-why/ar-BBEPdPq?li=BBnb7Kz

A Radioactive Cloud from Russia Swept Over Europe — and No One Knows Why
 Time Time    Jamie Ducharme   14 hrs ago

A mysterious radioactive cloud that swept through much of Europe this fall has officials baffled.

The cloud was harmless and has dissipated, France’s Institute for Radiological Protection and Nuclear Safety wrote in a statement Thursday, but between Sept. 27 and Oct. 13, the radioactive nuclide Ruthenium 106 was detected in “the majority of European countries.”

Experts aren’t totally sure where the substance came from, though testing suggests it was first released during the last week of September in Russia or Kazakhstan, likely somewhere between Russia’s Volga River and Ural Mountains.

“Russian authorities have said they are not aware of an accident on their territory,” IRSN Director Jean-Marc Peres told Reuters.

Based on atmospheric tests, the report says, it’s unlikely that the cloud was the result of a nuclear reactor accident. Instead, it likely stemmed from a nuclear fuel treatment or nuclear medicine treatment center.

Ruthenium 106 is produced when atoms divide in a nuclear reactor. It’s sometimes used in cancer treatment, specifically for melanoma of the eye, though it can be dangerous at high levels. The cloud drifting over Europe, however, never reached a concerning concentration, according to the IRSN report.

“The concentration levels of Ruthenium 106 in the air that have been recorded in Europe and especially in France are of no consequence for human health and for the environment,” it says.

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© Pallava Bagla—Corbis via Getty Images An interior view of the core of the Russian Fast Breeder Reactor on June 27, 2017 in Zarechny, Svedlovsk Oblast, Russia.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: RUSSO on November 19, 2017, 12:43:17 am
Major water receding again: Ocean mysteriously disappears in Brazil and anomalous tides in Chile

"There is something really weird happening along the Atlantic and Pacific coasts these last weeks.
Water is receding along the Atlantic coast, while Pacific waters are expanding and flooding parts of Chile. And this exact same phenomenon occurred two days ago AGAIN.

Regarding your question, i didn't see anything unusual happening here in Brazil, the video you posted in your thread, is on a beach (Figueira beach on Camboriu bathing place) in Santa Catarina state, sided to my state by the way.

The person in the video says  the receding is happening because the effect of a high pressure mass on the ocean plus strong north-east winds.

I found some news from this eventt for you (its a google tranlate link):

https://translate.google.com.br/translate?sl=en&tl=pt&js=y&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.visse.com.br%2Fsuper-mare-baixa-causa-espanto-em-itajai-especulacao-sobre-tsunami-foi-desmentida%2F&edit-text=

Original link : http://www.visse.com.br/super-mare-baixa-causa-espanto-em-itajai-especulacao-sobre-tsunami-foi-desmentida/

Another one:

https://translate.google.com.br/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bcnoticias.com.br%2Fmare-seca-entenda-por-que-isso-esta-acontecendo%2F&edit-text=

Original link : https://www.bcnoticias.com.br/mare-seca-entenda-por-que-isso-esta-acontecendo/

Last one from the MSM, this one is from globo (its like the cnn in usa):

https://translate.google.com.br/translate?hl=pt-BR&sl=pt&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fg1.globo.com%2Fsc%2Fsanta-catarina%2Fnoticia%2Fentenda-por-que-o-mar-recuou-ate-50-metros-em-praias-de-sc-no-fim-de-semana.ghtml

Original link : https://g1.globo.com/sc/santa-catarina/noticia/entenda-por-que-o-mar-recuou-ate-50-metros-em-praias-de-sc-no-fim-de-semana.ghtml

They basically say:

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Sum of factors

"This is the Ekman transport, which occurs every day here in the Southern Hemisphere and causes surface water to move to the left of the prevailing wind. The wind is northeast towards the sea, "he said.

According to Puchalski, despite this occurring daily, in recent days, the phenomenon still had a strong anticyclone near Argentina.

"This weather system has its winds blowing counterclockwise. As the intensity of this anticyclone was out of the norm, it helped to accentuate the Ekman transport, causing the sea retreat that was seen in many beaches ", he detailed.

In addition, according to Leandro, the last days full moon also contributed. "It intensified the low tide, even with the strong waters receding that was also intensified by this high pressure system," he said.

Hope it helps...

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on November 19, 2017, 10:32:57 pm
not good..


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/scientists-predict-that-earthquakes-will-double-in-number-next-year/ar-BBFbpsL?li=BBnbcA1

Scientists Predict That Earthquakes Will Double In Number Next Year
 International Business Times International Business Times
Suraj Radhakrishnan
12 hrs ago

A team of scientists presented a research paper to the Geological Society of America, revealing some ground shaking information. The paper has warned that there could be a big increase in numbers of devastating earthquakes  around the world next year caused by the slowing down of the Earth's rotation.

The research was conducted and presented by Roger Bilham of the University of Colorado in Boulder and Rebecca Bendick of the University of Montana in Missoula at the annual meeting of the Geological Society of America. They found that variations in the speed of the Earth's rotation could set off intense seismic activity, particularly in the tropical-equatorial regions where the population density is very high.

Any change is the Earth’s rotation speed is minuscule. It is affected by a factor of milliseconds and the changes in the length of day and night cannot be perceived, only calculated. But these small changes set off a seismic rumble that can release vast amounts of underground energy.

"The correlation between the Earth's rotation and earthquake activity is strong and suggests there is going to be an increase in numbers of intense earthquakes next year," Bilham was quoted in a report by The Guardian.

"The rotation of the Earth does change slightly – by a millisecond a day sometimes – and that can be measured very accurately by atomic clocks," noted Bilham.

The two scientists studied all the major earthquakes that registered a magnitude of 7 and above since 1900 to have a wide data-set. They identified a very visible pattern when the data for the whole century was laid out. There seemed to be visible spikes in seismic activity marked by an increase in the number of a large earthquake. Five such spikes were identified and during this period 25 to 30 large earthquakes were experienced every year.

"In these periods, there were 25 to 30 intense earthquakes a year," he said. The other periods identified only averaged 15 quakes a year, Bilham was quoted in the report.

The team was able to draw parallels to other data that could potentially affect seismic activity and found that these five spikes happened during periods when the Earth's rotation decreased in speed slightly.

The slow rotation periods came within five-year stretches. The team found that when the Earth's rotation slowed down over the last century it was followed by periods of massive earthquakes. "The Earth is offering us a five-year heads-up on future earthquakes," said Bilham.

The scary reality is that we are at the end of one of the five-year slowdowns.

"we should see a significant increase in numbers of severe earthquakes. We have had it easy this year. So far we have only had about six severe earthquakes. We could easily have 20 a year starting in 2018."

This means that areas around the equator should be on high alert for a spike in seismic activity. Earthquakes can be devastating in densely populated areas. The team says that there is no way to pinpoint the location of an earthquake. It is also unclear why the speed of rotation causes more seismic activity.

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http://www.physics.org/article-questions.asp?id=64

What causes the Earth's magnetic field?


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http://www.nnettle.com/features/610-scientists-the-earth-s-rotation-is-slowing-down-time-is-speeding-up

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and how does this affect the Schumann Resonance which is reported to be accelerated   hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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http://www.trinfinity8.com/why-is-earths-schumann-resonance-accelerating/

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ok it's out of our hands..we're just screwed
gimme some chocolate and i'll go quietly



maybe
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on November 20, 2017, 02:39:00 pm
Who came first, the earthquake or the slow down in rotation?  ;)

Could the slow down in rotation a response to less earthquakes and the Earth needs earthquakes as a kind of pacemaker?

Interesting, but not enough information.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on November 30, 2017, 03:35:54 pm
Here is a tidbit for you, Otter; they just had a 4.1 earthquake in Dover Delaware  8) This happened at 4:47 pm Eastern time.

 The last one on record was a 3.8 -45 years ago
 8)
Shake,rattle, and roll on the east coast

 :P
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on November 30, 2017, 03:50:45 pm


https://earthquaketrack.com/p/united-states/new-jersey/recent

obviously nothing new
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on November 30, 2017, 03:56:54 pm

https://earthquaketrack.com/p/united-states/new-jersey/recent

obviously nothing new
Not really, just the first one I have heard about in a long time  ;D

and since it is relatively close to you it makes me wonder what you been up to

 :P :P :P
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on November 30, 2017, 04:05:14 pm


bwhahahahahahahah
hey do you call about 350 miles close?...

earth wise.. i've been mostly inside trying to figure out the "what the hell happened'  in my personal timeline

hands in the air..wasn't me..lol
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on November 30, 2017, 04:30:16 pm

bwhahahahahahahah
hey do you call about 350 miles close?...

close enough  :P a whole lot closer than I am  8)

Quote
earth wise.. i've been mostly inside trying to figure out the "what the hell happened'  in my personal timeline
I am still running up on things that are as they shouldn't be, like a company I did business with for years that went bankrupt and closed their doors 17 years ago suddenly being back and doing well and upon inquiring, they never had any financial woes  :o
Also one that I bought parts from in the spring of 2016 that has apparently been closed down since 2012... ::)

Quote
hands in the air..wasn't me..lol
unhuh, sure, that's what they all say  :P
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on November 30, 2017, 09:00:25 pm


yeah that time line thing is holding onto my attention in a big way
with more questions all the time cause no two folk have the same preception


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/magnitude-44-quake-strikes-delaware-usgs/ar-BBFYPVW

Magnitude 4.1 quake strikes Delaware -USGS
 Reuters Reuters
4 hrs ago

Nov 30 (Reuters) - A magnitude 4.1 quake struck Delaware on Thursday, in a rare seismological occurrence for the U.S. Northeast, the U.S. Geological Survey said.

The quake, previously reported at magnitude 5.1 and then at 4.4, was centered in the Bombay Hook National Wildlife Refuge, according to a statement from the Delaware Emergency Management Agency. It was less than 10 miles (17 km) from the city of Dover and less than a mile (0.8 km) from Donas Landing.

There were no reports of injuries or damage, officials said.

The quake was downgraded to a magnitude 4.1 after data came in from several monitoring stations, U.S. Geological Survey geophysicist Rafael Abreu said by telephone.

It was felt in Philadelphia in the neighboring state of Pennsylvania, some 53 miles (85 km) from the epicenter.

The quake was shallow, only 5 miles (8 km) deep, which would have amplified its effect, and some people reported feeling light shaking in areas around New York City and Baltimore, according to the USGS website.

Many social media users also confirmed feeling the temblor and #earthquake had quickly risen to the top of trending topics on Twitter with more than 11,000 tweets mentioning the hashtag.

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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 01, 2017, 11:06:46 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-dR630XLSs

GSM Update 11/24/17
Popocatepetal Erupts - 3200 Phaethon Flyby - Antimatter Riddle Solved


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSLESnGfLYI

GSM Update 11/25/17
Pink Auroras - Scotland Freeze - Texas Frack Quakes - Flooding

Published on Nov 25, 2017
November will end on a slightly warm note (relative to normal), and December begins with that same pattern: a zonal, west-to-east flow across the Lower 48 keeping the bitterly cold air locked up north for now. That lasts through about December 5th; then things start changing.

A deeper trough (big ‘dip’ southward) in the jet stream over the eastern United States develops after the 5th; there’s a good chance it stays around through Christmas, and that should make this December a fairly cold one around this part of the country!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLiPi0OX09k

GSM Update 11/26/17 - Popo & Agung Erupt
UK Freeze & Fireballs - Surviving The GSM In A Major City

Published on Nov 25, 2017
BRITS in the North have awoken to a snowy Saturday - with even more snow due in the next week.

It is Britain's record breaking fifth weekend in a row in sub-zero temperatures, with drivers battling icy roads and gales as wintry weather sweeps the nation.

Snow falls in Glasgow as freezing Polar blast gets set to grip country. Met Office meteorologist Mark Wilson said: "The forecast is a day of sunshine and wintry showers, mostly across the north and west. "In the north and west of Scotland, the showers will be wintry at times and over higher ground we are likely to see snow, although it could fall on lower ground as well. "It will be a cold and breezy day, feeling incredibly cold for November."

Bureau of Meteorology puts Australia on alert for a ‘rare’ form of La Nina: To back up its climate call, the Bureau released a graph that showed all eight of its meteorological models pointed to equatorial sea surface temperatures dropping to -0.8C below the average 1961 to 1991 levels — the Australian threshold for a La Nina. Seven of the eight models show a likely La Nina event, this is when sea temperatures remain across the threshold for at least three months. Australia could move into La Nina in December and stay there all summer until February.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OurWYOaE_XI

GSM Update 11/27/17
Hudson Bay Record Ice - Agung Boom - New Zealand Quake - Humanure

Get used to life in the freezer! 'Significant snowfall' is forecast for Britain THIS WEEK as month-long -7C snap tightens its grip.
 
The Met Office warned of 'significant snowfall' in the north as temperatures around the UK continue to drop.
Could dip to -3C in sheltered spots, while health watchdogs have urged people to prepare for prolonged cold.

The Met Office said that Britain's -7C coldest nights of winter are possible on Wednesday and Thursday
Public Health England warned those at risk from cold to take precautions after thousands of deaths last year.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsFy07hrM94

GSM Update 11/28/17
Agung Lahar - UK Chill - Frack Quakes - Little Ice Age Lessons

Britain faces a three week chill with temperatures set to drop to -12C, and experts warning the freeze could claim 40,000 lives.


Forecasters believe we're facing the coldest December since 2010's Big Freeze, which saw transport networks grind to a halt as snow caused chaos across the country.


Health chiefs have now issued a warning ahead of the prolonged cold spell, calling on the public to check on those who may be at risk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3iDc1PXxmY

GSM Update 11/29/2017
Agung Seismic Uptick - Toxic Parsnips - NASA Press Release

Published on Nov 29, 2017
KARANGASEM, Indonesia (AP) — An erupting volcano with a deadly history on Indonesia's Bali, one of the world's most popular resort islands, has spread drifting ash 7,600 meters (4.7 miles) into the atmosphere and closed the island's international airport for a third day Wednesday.

Authorities have told 100,000 people to leave an area extending 10 kilometers (6 miles) from Mount Agung as it belches grey and white ash plumes, the low clouds hanging over the volcano at times hued red from the lava welling in the crater. The volcano's last major eruption in 1963 killed about 1,100 people, but it's unclear how bad the current eruption might get or how long it could last.

Officials extended the closure of Bali's international airport for another 24 hours due to concerns the thick volcanic ash could harm aircraft.

Airport spokesman Ari Ahsanurrohim said more than 440 flights were canceled Tuesday, affecting nearly 60,000 passengers, about the same as Monday. The closure was in effect until Thursday morning. Without aircraft, getting in or out of Bali requires traveling hours by land and taking a boat to another island, enduring choppy seas in Bali's rainy season.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 02, 2017, 12:04:38 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-lS3FGrGP4

GSM Update 11/30/17
Agung Update - New Crater Popo - Hawaii Snow - Saturn's Moon Cooling

SNOW IN HAWAII: MAUNA KEA COVERED IN UP TO 8 INCHES IN UNSEASONAL SNOWSTORM
Hawaii has experienced an unseasonal snowstorm, covering the top of Mauna Kea, the tallest volcanic mountain on the islands, with up to 8 inches of white snow. Although snow on the Hawaiian mountains is not as uncommon as it sounds, the timing of the snowfall is earlier than meteorologists would expect.



This winter could be the coldest in Scotland since records began.
 With temperatures plunging, bookmakers have cut the odds on a record-breaking cold snap.


Lows of -12C are predicted within the next few weeks, with snow also on the cards. Scotland will
be colder than the Arctic Circle, leading transport providers and local authorities to gear up for a big freeze.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa536Upxtbk

GSM Update 12/1/17
Agung 1963 Eruption - Australia Warning - Solar Update - Global Deluge Much
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on January 08, 2018, 02:20:03 pm


pretty good for a chinese hoax, huh ?


2017 Shatters Records With $306 Billion In Damages From Climate-Linked Disasters
Sixteen $1 billion-plus weather- and climate-related events killed at least 362 people.


By Alexander C. Kaufman
01/08/2018 02:41 pm ET

the headline is enough for me but the entire article is here
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/2017-natural-disasters_us_5a53b1aee4b01e1a4b183b9d?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on January 27, 2018, 08:56:02 am


south africa is rationing water and talking about day zero when there is no more
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/24/africa/cape-town-water-crisis-trnd/index.html
and here is another  story about water...
it will be ans is worth more than gold


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/an-oil-spill-off-chinas-coast-is-the-worlds-biggest-since-deepwater-horizon-%E2%80%94-and-it-more-than-tripled-in-size-over-the-weekend/ss-AAv2vh0?li=BBnbfcL

An oil spill off China's coast is the world's biggest since Deepwater Horizon — and it more than tripled in size over the weekend
Business Insider
Jeremy Berke
4 days ago
An oil spill off the coast of China is now the world's largest since the Deepwater Horizon disaster, which spilled millions of gallons of crude oil into the Gulf of Mexico in 2010.

A 900-foot Iranian oil tanker called the Sanchiwas carrying over 122,000 tons of condensate - a refined form of ultra-light crude oil - when it collided with a Chinese cargo ship earlier this month. The crash caused the tanker to explode into flames, killing all 32 crew members aboard the ship and dumping millions of gallons of oil into the East China Sea. The tanker slipped beneath the waves on Sunday, eight days after the collision.

China's State Oceanic Administration said in a statement that the oil spill more than tripled in size over the weekend. There are currently more than three oil slicks with a surface area of approximately 332 square kilometers, or 128 miles. That's up from 101 square kilometers (38 square miles) on Wednesday. It's still not clear how large the spill will become, as much of the oil may have burned up in the initial collision.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on February 26, 2018, 08:59:33 pm

how long can you tread water?    yikes





https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/north-pole-surges-above-freezing-in-the-dead-of-winter-stunning-scientists/ar-BBJCSJu?li=BBnb7Kz

North Pole surges above freezing in the dead of winter, stunning scientists
 Washington Post - Washington Post The Washington Post
Jason Samenow
2 hrs ago

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GFS model analysis of temperatures (in Celsius) Sunday over the Arctic. The temperature is above freezing at the North Pole.
2/3 SLIDES © University of Maine Climate Re-analyzer

The sun won’t rise at the North Pole until March 20, and it’s normally close to the coldest time of year, but an extraordinary and possibly historic thaw swelled over the tip of the planet this weekend. Analyses show that the temperature warmed to the melting point as an enormous storm pumped an intense pulse of heat through the Greenland Sea.


Temperatures may have soared as high as 35 degrees Fahrenheit (2 degrees Celsius) at the pole, according to the U.S. Global Forecast System model. While there are no direct measurements of temperature there, Zack Labe, a climate scientist working on his PhD at the University of California at Irvine, confirmed that several independent analyses showed “it was very close to freezing,” which is more than 50 degrees (30 degrees Celsius) above normal.

The warm intrusion penetrated right through the heart of the Central Arctic, Labe said. The temperature averaged for the entire region north of 80 degrees latitude spiked to its highest level ever recorded in February. The average temperature was more than 36 degrees (20 degrees Celsius) above normal. “No other warm intrusions were very close to this,” Labe said in an interview, describing a data set maintained by the Danish Meteorological Institute that dates back to 1958. “I was taken by surprise how expansive this warm intrusion was.”

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Such extreme warm intrusions in the Arctic, once rare, are becoming more routine, research has shown. A study published last July found that since 1980, these events are becoming more frequent, longer-lasting and more intense.

“Previously this was not common,” said lead author of the study Robert Graham, from the Norwegian Polar Institute, in an email. “It happened in four years between 1980-2010, but has now occurred in four out of the last five winters.”

Graham explained that these warming events are related to the decline of winter sea ice in the Arctic, noting that January’s ice extent was the lowest on record. “As the sea ice is melting and thinning, it is becoming more vulnerable to these winter storms,” he explained. “The thinner ice drifts more quickly and can break up into smaller pieces. The strong winds from the south can push the ice further north into the Central Arctic, exposing the open water and releasing heat to the atmosphere from the ocean.”

Scientists were shocked in recent days to discover open water north of Greenland, an area normally covered by old, very thick ice. “This has me more worried than the warm temps in the Arctic right now,” tweeted Mike MacFerrin, an ice sheet specialist at the University of Colorado.

Such warm water is appearing to have an effect on air temperatures. At the north tip of Greenland, about 400 miles to the south of the North Pole, the weather station Cape Morris Jesup has logged a record-crushing 61 hours above freezing so far this calendar year. The previous record, dating to 1980, was 16 hours through the end of April in 2011, according to Robert Rohde, a physicist at Berkeley Earth, a nonprofit that conducts temperature analysis. At one point, the temperature was as high as 43 degrees (6.1 degrees Celsius).

Kent Moore, a professor of atmospheric physics at the University of Toronto, who published a study in 2016 linking the loss of sea ice to these warm events in the Arctic, said a number of factors may have contributed to the latest warming episode.

For one, he said, recent storms have tracked more toward the North Pole through the Greenland Sea, drawing heat directly north from lower latitudes, rather than through a more circuitous route over the Barents Sea. He also said ocean temperatures in the Greenland Sea are warmer than normal. “The warmth we’re seeing in the Greenland Sea is definitely enhancing the warm events we’re seeing,” Moore said. “I’m surprised how warm it is, but I am not sure why.”

The rise in Arctic temperatures is probably also tied to a sudden warming of the stratosphere, the atmospheric layer about 30,000 feet high — above where most weather happens — that occurred several weeks ago, Moore said.  Why these stratospheric warming events happen is poorly understood, as are their consequences. However, they tend to rearrange warm and cold air masses, and this latest one has also been linked not only to the Arctic warmth but also to the “Beast from the East” cold spell over Europe.

Moore stopped short of saying that the warm spikes observed in the Arctic in recent years are a sure sign that they are becoming a fixture of the winter Arctic climate; more data is needed, he cautioned.

Whether a blip or indicative of a new normal, scientists have uniformly expressed disbelief at the current Arctic temperatures and the state of the sea ice.

“This is a crazy winter,” said Alek Petty, a climate scientist at NASA, in an interview. “I don’t think we’re sensationalizing it.”

“It’s never been this extreme,” Ruth Mottram, a climate scientist at the Danish Meteorological Institute, told Reuters.


Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on April 06, 2018, 09:06:36 am
  anyone thinking or believing that this earth is static is dreaming..


http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-43627673

Antarctica 'gives ground to the ocean'
By Jonathan Amos
BBC Science Correspondent
3 April 2018

beginning of article

Scientists now have their best view yet of where Antarctica is giving up ground to the ocean as some of its biggest glaciers are eaten away from below by warm water.

Researchers using Europe's Cryosat radar spacecraft have traced the movement of grounding lines around the continent.

These are the places where the fronts of glaciers that flow from the land into the ocean start to lift and float.

The new study reveals an area of seafloor the size of Greater London that was previously in contact with ice is now free of it.

The report, which covers the period from 2010 to 2016, is published in the journal Nature Geoscience.

"What we're able to do now with Cryosat is put the behaviour of retreating glaciers in a much wider context," said Dr Hannes Konrad from the University of Leeds, UK.

"Our method for monitoring grounding lines requires a lot of data but it means you could now basically build a permanent service to monitor the state of the edges of the continent," he told BBC News.

rest of article at link




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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on April 08, 2018, 08:38:43 am



well rte 30 in east pittsburgh has
dropped 30 feet and totally collapshed ...not far from where the first atom smasher was located ..history erased by the amount of rain we have gotten

hillsides that had 70+ yr old houses sliding away, have been news for the last few weeks

wild ride
if you are interested in seeing the pics check out the link

luckily no traffic was on the road because it had dropped about 4 feet and they had closed it the day before

the 30  apartment dwellers below were evacuated and with no bug out bags they are all  left with only the clothes on their backs




http://www.wtae.com/article/residents-being-evacuated-after-apartment-building-collapse-near-route-30/19709050

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Pimander on April 09, 2018, 04:03:05 am
Here, in this EU country (Portugal), I haven't seen any rise in the price of vegetables.
That is because the EU has import tariffs on foods from outside the EU so we don't import many vegetables from outside the EU.  Food prices inside the EU are relatively stable.  OUtside the EU increasing demand and climate are causing rising prices I think.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 09, 2018, 02:51:40 pm

how long can you tread water?    yikes


Complimentary FREE Chemistry Lesson :P

When water freezes it EXPANDS. Water is the ONLY substance that does this.

Ergo when the ice in the sea melts there will be no change in sea level.

You can do this at home  Take a glass of water with ice cubes  Fill it to the brin, the ice will float above the rim. Wait for it to melt... It will not over flow the glass The floating ice has already accounted for the displacement.

As the Arctic has no land mass beneath the ice there will be no sea level change

The bigger question is... WHY is the ANtarctic seeing record ever ice packs while the Arctic is thawing? How is this possible?

One way would be that ocean temperatures are higher. That would allow south pole freezing on land and still allow thawing in the Arctic

Watch the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" Yes it is exaggerated but the MECHANISM is correct 

Ice Age is coming soon :D
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on April 09, 2018, 05:19:43 pm
The bigger question is... WHY is the ANtarctic seeing record ever ice packs while the Arctic is thawing? How is this possible?
That reminds me of what happens on Mars, as one of the polar ice caps is much bigger than the other.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Irene on April 09, 2018, 05:26:42 pm
That reminds me of what happens on Mars, as one of the polar ice caps is much bigger than the other.

There is no land under the Arctic. Is that a possible reason?  :o
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Pimander on April 09, 2018, 05:36:02 pm
However, a new study by the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) and the British Antarctic Survey brings the worrying news that melting ice shelves can have a knock-on effect on ice flows, accelerating inland ice melt and pushing up the sea level.

"Ice shelves are highly important. They can buttress the ice flow from the continent into the ocean," Ronja Reese, lead author of the study and researcher at PIK, told DW. Erosion of ice shelves that regulate the flow means more water ends up in the ocean.
http://www.dw.com/en/new-study-links-antarctic-ice-shelf-melt-to-global-sea-level-rise/a-41756310

More precise measurements show West Antarctica ice melt accelerating (https://phys.org/news/2018-02-precise-west-antarctica-ice.html)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on April 09, 2018, 05:37:24 pm
There is no land under the Arctic. Is that a possible reason?  :o
I don't know, but look at Mars. Even with no liquid water (at least on the surface) it also has more ice on the south pole than on the north pole.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/OSIRIS_Mars_true_color.jpg/275px-OSIRIS_Mars_true_color.jpg)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Irene on April 09, 2018, 05:40:46 pm
Geez, I don't know. They look about the same.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on April 09, 2018, 06:12:41 pm
One thing I forgot and just read about Mars' polar caps and that is the same on Earth: the altitude of the north pole is lower than the altitude of the south pole, so it's natural that they have different behaviours.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 09, 2018, 07:42:09 pm
One thing I forgot and just read about Mars' polar caps and that is the same on Earth: the altitude of the north pole is lower than the altitude of the south pole, so it's natural that they have different behaviours.

That is actually a very valid point. Her e in Las Vegas we get summers that are over 100F (38C) yet in June we have had snow on Mount Charleston... that mountain is 7,510′

So valley floor is hooter than Hades :P but nice and cool up top :P

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zv5jVCEqcv4/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 09, 2018, 07:50:00 pm
Just a random post here...

This is from 1969  I guess FOX news is tired of the BS and is pulling up some old interesting articles  1969 was before the internet LOL

Photo of fiery bubble that stretches 65 feet in the air stuns the Internet

(http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/science/2018/04/04/photo-fiery-bubble-that-stretches-65-feet-in-air-stuns-internet/_jcr_content/par/featured_image/media-0.img.jpg/931/524/1522876514610.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
A "rare" lava-dome fountain spews lava in Hawaii on October 11, 1969.  (J.B. Judd/USGS)

A red-hot bubble was caught on camera spewing out steaming hot lava 65 feet in the air -- and the Internet wants to know more.

The United States Geological Survey (USGS) shared the picture on "Throwback Thursday" last week to highlight a "rare" lava-dome fountain that was spotted in Hawaii on October 11, 1969.

"Dome fountain of episode 10, October 10–13, 1969, eruption of Kilauea Volcano," USGS tweeted. "Symmetrical dome fountains such as this are rare."

Lava domes -- or volcanic domes -- vary in size and shape. They can reach up to 1,640 feet high, but typically stay within ranges of 30 to 320 feet, according to the USGS.

They're also pretty common. They're formed by viscous (gooey) magma that piles up around the opening of the volvano, also known as the "vent," according to research compiled by Oregon State.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2018/04/04/photo-fiery-bubble-that-stretches-65-feet-in-air-stuns-internet.html
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 09, 2018, 07:55:52 pm
Huge Bubble of Hot Rock May Be Rising Under New England

RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!  :P

If the findings hold up, the northeastern U.S. may be more geologically active than anyone realized.

(https://news.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/news/2017/12/05/new_england_volcano_h_00000202115716.adapt.590.1.jpg)
Colorful forests fill the landscape in the Berkshires of western Massachusetts.
PHOTOGRAPH BY BERTHOLD STEINHILBER, LAIF, REDUX


Quote
By Erin Blakemore
PUBLISHED DECEMBER 5, 2017

At first glance, New England doesn’t seem like a hotbed of geologic activity. The region doesn’t have any rumbling volcanoes. Earthquakes are almost unheard of. And its mountains are mere hills compared to ranges like the Rockies or the Sierra Nevada in the western U.S.

But don’t underestimate what’s going on beneath the surface: It turns out this idyllic pocket of the northeastern U.S. may sit atop a rising mass of warm rock—a smaller, slower version of the magma pockets under well-known volcanic zones.

The findings, recently published in the journal Geology, suggest that New England may not be so immune to abrupt geological change.

Quote
SHIFTING PERSPECTIVES
New England residents don’t need to panic. The upwelling is likely tens of millions of years old, which would make it a relatively recent development in geological terms, and it’s moving very slowly. For now, it certainly hasn’t gotten close enough to the surface to shape New England’s geography or create a volcano.

“Maybe it didn’t have time yet, or maybe it is too small and will never make it,” says Levin. “Come back in 50 million years, and we’ll see what happens.”

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/12/magma-bubble-rising-under-new-england-volcanoes-science/
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 09, 2018, 08:07:48 pm
yeah that time line thing is holding onto my attention in a big way
with more questions all the time cause no two folk have the same preception


All my life THIS symbols was on Ambulances 

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/US_Army_Medical_Corps_Branch_Plaque.gif)

Now they tell me that is WRONG  so I looked up ambulances and I see THIS

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSG1hB90XXVZ0XYkbnbcU-xGQd4lb8chsGtvnL_9TdMj0tbYYD6)

Yet if you do search the old one still appears on many old things like that patch at top
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on April 09, 2018, 08:29:18 pm
Quote
Complimentary FREE Chemistry Lesson :P

When water freezes it EXPANDS. Water is the ONLY substance that does this.

Ergo when the ice in the sea melts there will be no change in sea level.

You can do this at home  Take a glass of water with ice cubes  Fill it to the brin, the ice will float above the rim. Wait for it to melt... It will not over flow the glass The floating ice has already accounted for the displacement.

As the Arctic has no land mass beneath the ice there will be no sea level change

i am having a very hard time swallowing this free lesson  :o
the ocean isn't a glass
i need to go read stuff and figure out why your lesson isn't sitting well with me
sigh.. like i needed more things to think about...sigh

we have had so much rain that things are slippin' and slidin' around here and it's getting scary..
april 9th and i haven't been able to even put green onions in the ground..everything squishes


edit cause i can't speel  sigh
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 09, 2018, 09:54:51 pm
i am having a very hard time swallowing this free lesson  :o

No your not supposed to DRINK the water, just watch it :P

This is basic high school chemistry  well it was in my day  :P


Why does ice melting not change the water level in a container?

I have read the explanation for this in several textbooks, but I am struggling to understand it via Archimedes' principle. If someone can clarify with a diagram or something so I can understand or a clear equation explanation that would be great.


Good question.

Assume we have one cube of ice in a glass of water. The ice displaces some of that water, raising the height of the water by an amount we will call hh.

Archimedes' principle states that the weight of water displaced will equal the upward buoyancy force provided by that water. In this case,

Weight of water displaced=mwater displacedg=ρVg=ρAhg
Weight of water displaced=mwater displacedg=ρVg=ρAhg
where VV is volume of water displaced, ρρ is density of water, AA is the surface area of the glass and gg is acceleration due to gravity.

Therefore the upward buoyancy force acting on the ice is ρAhgρAhg.

Now the downward weight of ice is micegmiceg.

Now because the ice is neither sinking nor floating, these must balance. That is:

ρAhg=miceg
ρAhg=miceg
Therefore,

h=miceρA
h=miceρA
Now when the ice melts, this height difference due to buoyancy goes to 0. But now an additional mass micemice of water has been added to the cup in the form of water. Since mass is conserved, the mass of ice that has melted has been turned into an equivalent mass of water.

The volume of such water added to the cup is thus:

V=miceρ
V=miceρ
and therefore,

Ah=miceρ
Ah=miceρ
So,

h=miceρA
h=miceρA
That is, the height the water has increased due to the melted ice is exactly the same as the height increase due to buoyancy before the ice had melted.

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/110645/why-does-ice-melting-not-change-the-water-level-in-a-container


NOTE The formulas show properly on the website

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/110645/why-does-ice-melting-not-change-the-water-level-in-a-container

HOWEVER  Icebergs are fresh water because the salt doesn't freeze in the water  so there would be a very slight increase in sea level to account for the Archimedes effect, but only slight

An interesting side point is that if too much ice melts into the oceans, including land ice from glaciers and mountain, it can change the salinity of the salt water by adding fresh water to the mix.

Since Ocean Ships are designed for a specific salinity to determine their bouyancy, any drastic change in that salinity and they can sink  :D

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Pimander on April 10, 2018, 05:16:44 am
i am having a very hard time swallowing this free lesson  :o
the ocean isn't a glass

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1141.msg142684#msg142684
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on April 10, 2018, 12:09:39 pm
i am having a very hard time swallowing this free lesson  :o
the ocean isn't a glass
i need to go read stuff and figure out why your lesson isn't sitting well with me
sigh.. like i needed more things to think about...sigh
Think of the opposite situation:
You have a body of water and some of it freezes. How much water does that body of water has?
Exactly the same, as no water was added or removed. Because of that, when that ice melts everything remains the same.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 10, 2018, 04:21:57 pm
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1141.msg142684#msg142684

Yes but we are talking of SEA ICE not changing the level  and ArMaP's layman example is PERFECT as I forgot that the fresh water ice comes from salt water so it would not change at all :P Good one ArMaP  :D

IF you count all the ice and snow on LAND melting into the oceans then yes, naturally there would be an increase

But that is not happening

Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches New Record Maximum

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Antarctica and the Arctic are two very different environments: the former is a continent surrounded by ocean, the latter is ocean enclosed by land. As a result, sea ice behaves very differently in the two regions. While the Antarctic sea ice yearly wintertime maximum extent hit record highs from 2012 to 2014 before returning to average levels in 2015

https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum

They did however add THIS  (can't say the Global Warming is a sham :P )

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both the Arctic wintertime maximum and its summer minimum extent have been in a sharp decline for the past decades. Studies show that globally, the decreases in Arctic sea ice far exceed the increases in Antarctic sea ice.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on April 11, 2018, 08:29:11 pm


lots of interesting reading..and even some pictures  :D


http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-43713719
Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system
By Victoria Gill
Science correspondent, BBC News
11 April 2018

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A significant shift in the system of ocean currents that helps keep parts of Europe warm could send temperatures in the UK lower, scientists have found.

They say the Atlantic Ocean circulation system is weaker now than it has been for more than 1,000 years - and has changed significantly in the past 150.

The study, in the journal Nature, says it may be a response to increased melting ice and is likely to continue.

Researchers say that could have an impact on Atlantic ecosystems.

Scientists involved in the Atlas project - the largest study of deep Atlantic ecosystems ever undertaken - say the impact will not be of the order played out in the 2004 Hollywood blockbuster The Day After Tomorrow.

But they say changes to the conveyor-belt-like system - also known as the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (Amoc) - could cool the North Atlantic and north-west Europe and transform some deep-ocean ecosystems.

rest at link

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https://www.sciencealert.com/bottom-ocean-literally-sinking-under-weight-melting-glaciers-climate-change
The Bottom of The Ocean Has Started Sinking Under The Weight of Melting Glaciers
Jeez.

PETER DOCKRILL 8 JAN 2018
Decades of measurements and predictions of sea level rise could have underestimated the scale of the problem, experts warn, due to scientists not accounting for the weighty, warping effects of our ever burgeoning oceans.

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/2017GL075419

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https://www.livescience.com/62275-new-ocean-current-madagascar.html

New Ocean Current Discovered Off the Coast of Madagascar
By Sarah Wild, Live Science Contributor | April 11, 2018 10:05am ET


A previously unknown ocean current was recently discovered "by accident" off the coast of Madagascar, a rare find in the 21st century.

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https://www.livescience.com/62277-ocean-tides-magnetic-field.html
Oceans' Mysterious Magnetic Field Is Mapped in Stunning Detail from Space
By Laura Geggel, Senior Writer | April 11, 2018 01:20pm ET
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 11, 2018, 10:57:48 pm
Not that long ago.... in Medieval Tymes...  Castles were made of stone...

Temperatures were mild...

Then came THE MINI ICE AGE...

And those castles became drafty and cold  and damp...

So... they invented TAPESTRIES  to hang on the walls to stop the drafts..

they invented WINDOW PANES to stop those cold winds

they invented FIRE PLACES to take the chill off (and Bed Warmers :P )

And we saw the influx of Tudor style 5 layer heavy clothing  (Trust me that stuff is HOT in vegas :P )
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Pimander on April 12, 2018, 02:12:37 pm
Yes but we are talking of SEA ICE not changing the level  and ArMaP's layman example is PERFECT as I forgot that the fresh water ice comes from salt water so it would not change at all :P Good one ArMaP  :D

IF you count all the ice and snow on LAND melting into the oceans then yes, naturally there would be an increase

But that is not happening
Sea ice may not be changing the level but the sea level is rising.  It has risen by 2.6 inches in about ten years...

It is also wrong to say that the Arctic is all sea.  Greenland (a huge Island) is partly in the Arctic and the glaciers there are retreating...

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Why Are Glaciers Melting from the Bottom? It’s Complicated

Glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica are losing ice at alarming rates, and warmer air isn’t the only cause.  Scientists increasingly agree that warm ocean water is seeping beneath the ice and melting it from the bottom up.

It’s a growing problem in Greenland, scientists say, and it may already be the dominant driver of melting glaciers in Antarctica.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-are-glaciers-melting-from-the-bottom-its-complicated/

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Antarctic Glaciers Lost Stunning Amount of Ground in Recent Years

Linked to a warming ocean, ice retreat was more rapid than even at the end of the last Ice Age

Antarctic Glaciers Lost Stunning Amount of Ground in Recent Years

An ambitious new mapping project has given scientists one of their most complete looks yet at the movement of glaciers all around Antarctica.

The key finding: Far more glaciers are losing ground than gaining ice.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/antarctic-glaciers-lost-stunning-amount-of-ground-in-recent-years/

It looks pretty likely that sea level rises are due to retreating ice.  I know USA is making a lot from oil but lets have some balance here... :P
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Shasta56 on April 17, 2018, 01:17:33 pm
Colorado is expecting a bad wildfire season.  We already had one today, down by Larkspur.  The winter has been so dry, that Medano Creek at the Sand Dunes is not expected to have any surge flow. That's ine of our yearly outings, but it looks like we're skipping it this year. 

Shasta
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 17, 2018, 02:23:43 pm
Meanwhile in Chicago...

Upper Peninsula city gets 24.5 inches of snow, photo goes viral
Published 4:27 p.m. ET April 16, 2018


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Greater Marinette-Menominee YMCA members (from left) Jody Burns, Susan Matecki and Jean Davis stand outside the facility on Monday, April 16, 2018, between walls of snow. The city received its largest single-storm snowfall ever, 24.5 inches, over the weekend, according to National Weather Service records going back to 1919.(Photo: Allyson Bickel)

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/04/16/upper-peninsula-snow-menominee-snowfall/521828002/
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: dreb13 on April 17, 2018, 04:24:20 pm
24.5 inches??

12 inches = 1 foot

Are those people only a foot and a half tall

The only time I personally saw snow as deep as the snow in that photo was while traveling from Reno to Oakland CA and the interstate that runs through the Donner Pass had 6 FEET of snow.


**EDIT: article says it's from a "snow drift". I didn't R-E-E-D the article before I posted.  :-[ ;D
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: zorgon on April 17, 2018, 06:34:36 pm
**EDIT: article says it's from a "snow drift". I didn't R-E-E-D the article before I posted.  :-[ ;D

READing is a good thing :P

 ::)

 8)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on August 28, 2018, 09:21:56 am



ah yeah - just a chinese hoax..no reason to worry.....sigh



Farmers' Almanac predicts 'teeth-chattering' winter, lots of snow

https://www.farmersalmanac.com/weather-outlook/2019-winter-forecast


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https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/warmer-than-normal-temperatures-to-continue-in-europe/ar-BBMylhx
Warmer-than-normal temperatures to continue in Europe

Reuters  59 min.s ago

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Above average temperatures are set to continue in most of Europe during the September to November period, forecasts by The Weather Company showed on Tuesday.

"We've just experienced the warmest May-July period (ever) in many parts of northern and western Europe, including the UK," said Todd Crawford, chief meteorologist at The Weather Company.

Warmer-than-average conditions will continue, especially in northern Europe, through to November.

"The very early evidence suggests that we could have some significant cold weather, however, especially in the back half of winter," Crawford added.

The Weather Company, owned by IBM, provides weather forecasts aimed at the commodities and energy sectors.


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https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/apocalyptic-threat-dire-climate-report-raises-fears-for-californias-future/ar-BBMx8eR?li=BBnb7Kz


'Apocalyptic threat': dire climate report raises fears for California's future

The Guardian

10 hrs ago    Carla Green


 
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California’s summer of deadly wildfires and dangerous heatwaves will soon be the new normal if nothing is done to stop climate change, a report released on Monday warns.

But Goode said he was not sure whether to be hopeful. “I won’t say that I’m hopeful. I would like to feel hopeful, but I don’t see it happening right now,” he said. “I don’t see the politicians stumbling over themselves to make that change.”




Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on August 28, 2018, 03:50:53 pm
Hot, cold, hot... :)

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From a heatwave to snow storms, parts of Italy and Austria have seen a dramatic shift in weather over the weekend.

At Obertauern, a ski resort in Salzburg, almost 40 centimetres of snow fell with temperatures dropping to 2°C, and nearly -1°C in other parts.

In Schladming in northwest Austria, between 25 and 30 centimetres of snow fell.

Although snow in Austria in August is not uncommon, the quantity of snow this year is unusual, according to a local hut owner.

Pordenone in northeast Italy experienced strong storms while residents at Cortina d'Ampezzo, a ski resort in northern Italy, was coated with 10 centimetres of snow on August 26.

Rifugio Scoiattoli, an alpine lodge in the Dolomites, was also covered in snow.

The snow may be short-lived, however, with temperatures rising as high as 30 degrees in Austria this week according to weather forecasts.

http://www.euronews.com/2018/08/27/watch-snow-hits-parts-of-italy-and-austria
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on September 06, 2018, 07:35:28 pm


just a hoax - nothing to worry about  :P

it was so hot here that the latest thing is sending the kids home from school early this week

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/noaa-reports-summer-2018-fourth-hottest-on-record/ar-BBMY8jI?li=BBnb7Kz

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NOAA Reports Summer 2018 Fourth Hottest on Record
Nina Godlewski  3 hrs ago

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The summer of 2018 was one for the history books—at least those that cover temperature records across the United States.

The meteorological summer runs from the start of June to the end of August and the temperatures during those months in 2018 made it the fourth hottest year on record. In the contiguous United States, the average temperature through the summer was 73.5 degrees Fahrenheit—2.1 degrees above the average temperature, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Many states saw sweltering conditions through the summer, some of which have continued into September. Much of the Mid-Atlantic region and parts of the Northeast were still under a heat advisory Thursday, according to the National Weather Service. Some schools were even letting students out early due to the heat.

A map of the United States shared by NOAA shows that the mean temperature percentiles in some parts of the country reached points of record heat. California, Arizona, New Mexico and other states all saw record-breaking temperatures through the months of the meteorological summer.

Even parts of Massachusetts and Connecticut saw some record-breaking temperature means for the summer, the map shows. Those record-breaking temperatures are indicated by the color red on the map. Very few spots around the country saw temperatures below average, while some small patches of the country saw temperatures were near average.

The majority of the map is covered in a light orange or orange color, indicating that the mean temperature was above average in those areas.

This year’s summer tied the summer of 1934 for fourth warmest in the past 124 years and helped push the temperature for the year to date up even further. As of Thursday when NOAA released the information, the average temperature for the year to date in the U.S. was 55.7 degrees Fahrenheit, which is 1.8 degrees above the normal average, making it the 10th warmest year-to-date on record, according to NOAA.

Precipitation over the month of August was just slightly above average, with 2.99 inches of rain, or .37 inches above the average for August. That makes it the 20th wettest August on record in part due to the East Coast and Great Plains where the slow-moving storms brought above-average precipitation and in some cases record-breaking precipitation., according to NOAA.

August may have come to a close but the heat is sticking around, at least through the end of the week in some areas, with the potential to drive up the average further.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/07/03/hot-planet-all-time-heat-records-have-been-set-all-over-the-world-in-last-week/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3005637b81ec

Red-hot planet: All-time heat records have been set all over the world during the past week
By Jason Samenow
July 5

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(This article, originally published Tuesday, was updated Wednesday to add all-time heat records at Mount Washington, N.H., and Tbilisi, Georgia set since Monday. On Thursday, the story was updated to include information on heat-related deaths in Canada and extraordinary heat in Siberia. On Friday, it was updated to add the likely all-time heat record in Africa and Southern California.)

From the normally mild summer climes of Ireland, Scotland and Canada to the scorching Middle East to Southern California, numerous locations in the Northern Hemisphere have witnessed their hottest weather ever recorded over the past week.

Large areas of heat pressure or heat domes scattered around the hemisphere led to the sweltering temperatures. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation reports the heat is to blame for at least 54 deaths in southern Quebec, mostly in and near Montreal, which endured record high temperatures.

In Northern Siberia, along the coast of the Arctic Ocean – where weather observations are scarce – model analyses showed temperatures soaring 40 degrees above normal on July 5, to over 90 degrees. “It is absolutely incredible and really one of the most intense heat events I’ve ever seen for so far north,” wrote meteorologist Nick Humphrey, who offers more detail on this extraordinary high-latitude hot spell on his blog.

On Thursday, Africa likely witnessed its hottest temperature ever reliably measured. Ouargla, Algeria soared to 124.3 degrees (51.3 Celsius). If verified, it would surpass Africa’s previous highest reliable temperature measurement of 123.3 degrees (50.7 Celsius) set July 13, 1961, in Morocco.

No single record, in isolation, can be attributed to global warming. But collectively, these heat records are consistent with the kind of extremes we expect to see increase in a warming world.

Let’s take a tour around the world of the recent hot-weather milestones.

North America
A massive and intense heat dome has consumed the eastern two-thirds of the United States and southeast Canada since late last week. It’s not only been hot but also exceptionally humid. Here are some of the notable all-time records set:

The University of California Los Angeles set its all-time high-temperature of 111 degrees on July 6, along with several other locations in Southern California.
Denver tied its all-time high-temperature record of 105 degrees on June 28.
Mount Washington, N.H., tied its all-time warmest low temperature of 60 degrees on July 2.
Burlington, Vt., set its all-time warmest low temperature ever recorded of 80 degrees on July 2.
Montreal recorded its highest temperature in recorded history, dating back 147 years, of 97.9 degrees (36.6 Celsius) on July 2. The city also posted its most extreme midnight combination of heat and humidity.
Ottawa posted its most extreme combination of heat and humidity on July 1.
[Oppressive heat dome engulfs the Northeast — and it will spread west this weekend]

View image on Twitter

Europe
Excessive heat torched the British Isles late last week. The stifling heat caused roads and roofs to buckle, the Weather Channel reported, and resulted in multiple all-time record highs:

In Scotland, Glasgow had its hottest day on record, hitting 89.4 degrees (31.9 Celsius). Previously, it was reported that Scotland set its hottest temperature on record of 91.8 degrees (33.2 Celsius) on June 28 in Motherwell, about 12 miles southeast of Glasgow. However, upon further evaluation, the U.K. Met Office determined the record was invalid due to an artificial heating source near the temperature sensor.
In Ireland, on June 28, Shannon hit 89.6 degrees (32 Celsius), its all-time record.
In Northern Ireland,
Belfast hit 85.1 degrees (29.5 Celsius) on June 28, its all-time record.
Castlederg hit 86.2 degrees (30.1 Celsius) on June 29, its all-time record.

Eurasia
A large dome of high pressure, or heat dome, has persistently sat on top of Eurasia over the past week, resulting in some extraordinarily hot weather:

Tbilisi, Georgia: On July 4, the capital city soared to 104.9 degrees (40.5 Celsius), its all-time record.
Yerevan, Armenia: On July 2, the capital city soared to 107.6 degrees (42 Celsius), a record high for July and tying its record for any month.
Several locations in southern Russia topped or matched their warmest June temperatures on record on the 28th.

Middle East
As we reported, Quriyat, Oman, posted the world’s hottest low temperature ever recorded on June 28: 109 degrees (42.6 Celsius).

These various records add to a growing list of heat milestones set over the past 15 months that are part and parcel of a planet that is trending hotter as greenhouse gas concentrations increase because of human activity:

In April, Pakistan posted the hottest temperature ever observed on Earth during the month of 122.4 degrees (50.2 Celsius).
Dallas had never hit 90 degrees in November before, but it did so three times in four days in 2017.
In late October 2017, temperatures soared to 108 degrees in Southern California, the hottest weather on record so late in the season in the entire United States.
On Sept. 1, 2017, San Francisco hit 106 degrees, smashing its all-time hottest temperature.
In late July 2017, Shanghai registered its highest temperature in recorded history, 105.6 degrees (40.9 Celsius).
In mid-July, Spain posted its highest temperature recorded when Cordoba Airport (in the south) hit 116.4 degrees (46.9 Celsius).
In July 2017, Death Valley, Calif., endured the hottest month recorded on Earth.
In late June 2017, Ahvaz, Iran, soared to 128.7 degrees Fahrenheit (53.7 Celsius) — that country’s all-time hottest temperature.
In late May 2017, the western town of Turbat in Pakistan hit 128.3 degrees (53.5 Celsius), tying the all-time highest temperature in that country and the world-record temperature for May, according to Masters.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 09, 2018, 10:35:57 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0awjER89IDc

4 Atlantic Storms/Florence/CAT 4 at Land Fall

BPEarthWatch
Published on Sept 7, 2018


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTI_xbuMIT0

NEW - Hurricane Florence to be CAT 5 - NHC

MrMBB333
Published on Sep 7, 2018


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiDvgMqSpI4

WARNING - Severe risk of massive oceanic anomalies imminent

Dave Dobbs
Published on Sep 7, 2018

Last years it was very gentle most places it occurred and the water went out more than rushed in.  But it could be considerably stronger this year and have faster onset with greater seismic and volcanic activity beginning about the 13th September and lasting a full week. This will be phase one of the big effects of this complex passage we enter now. Good luck.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 09, 2018, 02:04:40 pm
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We are booked into the
Baymont by Wyndham
on Tuesday, 11 September 2018
3635 US Hwy 17 S., Chocowinity, NC 27817
252-946-8001

This will be the 4th hurricane we shared with this hotel.   :P
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on September 09, 2018, 03:43:08 pm

it's 6 pm on a sunday and has been raining since last evening
 my rain gauge only goes to 5 inches..i just dumped it out so i could keep track of how much more rain is still falling

it's right at 57 F and has been all day .. so not real cold but the kind of damp that seeps into your body
we are safe here but the basement on the older side of the house has a running small stream thru the 1939 yr old blocks and behind the garage looks like a lake

a whole bunch of sparrows have taken up huddling on the back porch to stay dry and are leaving prove of being there
and my only exercise was running out to chase a squirrel stealing butternuts from  my little green house..
sigh  so i shut the vents and closed the door

the football game that would have at least involved a few hours of watching something other than the rain gauge was damn messy with  a tie score ending.. and did not hold my interest for long

i have finished the sudoku book and am now on here reading
what the hell did they do on that arc for 40 days ?  ?

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 09, 2018, 04:05:00 pm
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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on September 09, 2018, 07:17:05 pm


hi Thor
thanks
i will check them out  in the morning...

just as i finished typing the lights blinked so i got off line fast and am just getting on

wavin at cha and hope you are keeping dry
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
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We are also working with and supporting America's Cajun Navy. To volunteer for assisting in the Carolina's, call 833-872-2586, John Billiot, President. To donate to this great cause: https://www.facebook.com/americascajunnavy/
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 11, 2018, 01:27:10 pm
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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 12, 2018, 01:09:21 pm
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Sept 12, 2018
Hurricane Florence is now expected to slow down and turn south after making a roaring landfall along the East Coast, a forecast that could have dire consequences for South Carolina, meteorologists said Wednesday.

Florence is a mammoth, Category 4 storm with sustained winds of 130 mph. It is expected to reach the Carolinas early overnight Thursday, and more than a million people have been ordered to evacuate coastal areas.

"Latest models show a ridge building over eastern U.S. slowing down Florence near our coast, stalling, then moving into South Carolina," the National Weather Service in Wilmington, North Carolina said. "Impacts will still be felt far away from the center of storm, and uncertainty still exists regarding magnitude of impacts in our area."

The office warned that Florence "will likely be the storm of a lifetime for portions of the Carolina coast."

The slowdown could mean 20 inches of rain or more in some areas, along with an extended period of high winds that could take down trees and power lines.

Unfortunately, that slight move south now puts us in jeopardy, as we are high up in the mountains at the NC/GA line. Say, SW of Charlotte towards Atlanta, Floods not a worry here.

We postponed our early response to the North Carolina coast until Friday or Saturday. We still have our reservations at the Baymont Wyndham.

We are also working with and supporting *America's Cajun Navy*. To volunteer for assisting in the Carolina's, call 833-872-2586, John Billiot, President.

As of Wednesday morning:


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I live on the border of GA/NC, "under that "L" with the circle'.   :P


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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 12, 2018, 02:29:15 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMVuuR_P85w

Over a Dozen Nuclear Reactors in Path of Hurricane Florence
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 12, 2018, 02:40:14 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmVhD6LvkGQ

They Just Ran A Simulation of a CAT 4 Hitting The Middle East Coast
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: fansongecho on September 12, 2018, 10:28:31 pm
Stay safe Thor , and I hope the Hurricane degrades massively before it reaches landfall over there guys' - I will be thinking of you later today.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on September 13, 2018, 12:08:20 pm
Stay safe Thor , and I hope the Hurricane degrades massively before it reaches landfall over there guys' - I will be thinking of you later today.
Florence did degrade  8) it was a Category 2 this morning with winds of 110 mph; the storm itself had increased in size to around 390 miles across, but the resultant drop in wind speed means a lot; as of now (3pm eastern) winds are 105 mph

looking at the live radar, it does appear to be diminishing  8)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: petrus4 on September 13, 2018, 01:12:44 pm
looking at the live radar, it does appear to be diminishing  8)

Cyclones or hurricanes are a lot like lightning, in the sense that their formation requires an extreme polarisation and conflict of hot and cold air currents.  I believe that this is why they form in coastal areas, and also why they tend to dissipate when they move further inland; the temperature of the air becomes more uniform, and so they can not maintain cohesion.

I suspect that this increased polarisation of air currents, may also have a fractal or symbolic correspondence with the similar, current state of politics among American humans.  As above, so below.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 13, 2018, 01:25:00 pm
Florence did degrade  8) it was a Category 2 this morning with winds of 110 mph; the storm itself had increased in size to around 390 miles across, but the resultant drop in wind speed means a lot; as of now (3pm eastern) winds are 105 mph

looking at the live radar, it does appear to be diminishing  8)

Same thing with Katrina. It was a 5 but by the time it hit Plaquemines Parish, it was a 2 and quickly degraded.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on September 13, 2018, 02:25:23 pm
I believe that this is why they form in coastal areas, and also why they tend to dissipate when they move further inland; the temperature of the air becomes more uniform, and so they can not maintain cohesion.
I may be wrong, but I think they form over hot areas of the ocean and lose strength when they find either some physical obstacle (like a mountain) or cold air.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on September 13, 2018, 06:11:38 pm

live storm cams
the sound is  very loud for some - be ready



http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/13/as-hurricane-florence-nears-live-surf-cam-videos-show-impact-on-carolinas.html
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on September 19, 2018, 11:25:48 am

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/wonder/massive-iceberg-breaks-from-greenland-glacier/vi-BBNy7BQ


Massive iceberg breaks from Greenland glacier
Duration: 01:36 6 hrs ago


 Reuters
Massive iceberg breaks from Greenland glacier
Duration: 01:36 6 hrs ago

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Time-lapse video shows a four-mile wide chunk of ice breaking away from the Helheim Glacier in Tasiilaq, Greenland, a rarely documented event called calving. Rough Cut (no reporter narration).

Vid at link much  or you tube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7yN3qMAwY4
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on September 26, 2018, 08:22:40 am


https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/new-research-shows-the-world%E2%80%99s-ice-is-doing-something-not-seen-before/ar-AAAF3CR?li=BBnb7Kz


 The Guardian
New research shows the world’s ice is doing something not seen before
John Abraham  4 hrs ago

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In this warming world, some parts of the planet are warming much faster than others.  The warming is causing large ice bodies to start to melt and move rapidly, in some cases sliding into the ocean. 

This movement is the topic of a very new scientific study that was just published in the journal Earth and Planetary Science Letters.  The Arctic is warming much faster than other parts of the planet and the ice there is showing the signs of rapid warming.  This fact has serious consequences. First, melting ice can cause sea levels to rise and inundate coastal areas – it also makes storms like hurricanes and typhoons more destructive.  Melting ice also causes a feedback loop, which can cause more future warming and then more ice loss.

It should be noted that there are different types of ice.  Some ice floats on water and is called sea ice.  When it melts, the ocean water level hardly budges because the ice is already in the sea displacing liquid water.  But, sea ice is really important for this feedback loop I mentioned above.

Other ice is on land and may be a large ice sheet or a smaller glacier.  These ice bodies sit atop the land and “rest” there.  In some cases, they extend out off the land and into the ocean where they partly float on liquid water.  When this land ice melts, the liquid flows into the oceans and can cause significant ocean level rising.

So, the importance of ice depends on what type it is, where it is located, and how fast it is melting. And this brings us to the new paper.

The researchers looked at a type of high latitude glacier in their study.  These glaciers hold enough water to cause about 1 foot (about a third of a meter) in sea level rise. Typically, they exist in cold and dry areas, where snowfall is limited.

How do glaciers move?  Well really by either sliding over the underlying bedrock or surface that they sit on, or by deforming and stretching under their weight. The colder glaciers tend to move by the deforming and stretching process.  Glaciers that have wetter and more temperate regions involve more sliding.  But regardless of how they move, these glaciers, particularly the glaciers that have both cold and temperate parts, experience surges in their motion.  These surges are short duration times where the glacier moves a lot.  During a surge, ice is redistributed from one part of the glacier to another region.

The authors in this study observed such a glacier surge.  It happened at an outlet glacier that is mainly of the “cold” type in Russia.  At the Vavilov Ice Cap on October Revolution Island, the authors find it “is undergoing extraordinary acceleration and thinning but displays no previous evidence of surging.”  The authors write,

the 300-600 meter thick 1820 square kilometer Vavilov Ice Cap is frozen to its bed over the majority of its area, apart from a region along its western margin where basal sliding is potentially important for faster flow.

In 2010 the ice in the region began to accelerate and the next year, crevasses were observed that matched the patterns of ice acceleration. The researchers were able to watch this surge in ice motion in real-time using satellite images. They could track the motion and show the incredible speed of flow.

What caused the rapid motion? This is an important question because if the motion is caused by human warming, we can expect the behavior to be repeated elsewhere as temperatures rise.  Importantly both air and ocean-water temperatures could be a factor.  One potential cause is surface meltwater.  The top of the ice can melt, and liquid water then can flow downwards, into the ice through cracks and holes.  This flowing water can precondition the ice for rapid motion.

This fact may be a contributing cause to the motion.  Basically, the melted water lubricated the ice/ground interface causing more sliding and more friction.  The friction caused some of the bottom ice to melt and released more liquid water, and a cycle had begun.

The researchers also took measurements of elevation to better understand areas where ice was becoming thicker or thinner.  In addition, they studied the forces that exist within the ice itself to help elucidate the cause of the increased speed. Obviously, this is an evolving area of study and all of the questions have not yet been answered.  However, I was impressed when I read that even though these types of surges are becoming more common, what the researchers observed in Russia was still unique.  They describe the rate of ice loss at Vavilov as “extreme.” The authors also point out,

It is startling that the Vavilov Ice Cap, until recently, an apparently stable ice cap with an almost entirely frozen bed that is almost entirely above sea level, is able to rapidly discharge such a large proportion of its ice in the ocean over such a short period.

So, to answer the question, how fast is it moving?  In 2015, it reached speeds of up to 82 feet in a single day. It currently is sliding 15–35 feet a day. For comparison, that is much faster than the average 2 inches per day we would see with no surge events.

The takeaway message is that once we thought these large bodies of ice responded slowly to changing conditions.  But this research shows us differently.  It shows that ice sheet can move quickly and once we pass a threshold, they may be hard to stop.  This finding makes it more crucial for us to slow down global warming before it’s too late.

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on October 08, 2018, 08:43:59 am
HURRICANE MICHAEL

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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on November 10, 2018, 07:42:47 am

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-climatechange-lawsuit/u-s-government-but-not-trump-can-be-sued-over-climate-judge-idUSKCN1MP2F8

OCTOBER 15, 2018 / 3:57 PM / 25 DAYS AGO
Tina Bellon

U.S. government, but not Trump, can be sued over climate: judge says


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(Reuters) - A group of young Americans suing the federal government over lack of action to fight climate change can proceed with their lawsuit, but U.S. President Donald Trump cannot be named as a defendant, a federal judge ruled on Monday.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Ann Aiken in Eugene, Oregon, came before the case is scheduled to go to trial in federal court on Oct. 29.

Twenty-one children and young adults, who were between 8 and 19 years of age when the lawsuit was filed in 2015 against the Obama administration, accused federal officials and oil industry executives of violating their due process rights by knowing for decades that carbon pollution poisons the environment, but doing nothing about it.

Aiken said the case revealed a delicate balance of power between the judicial and other government agencies. The judge said those concerns were not enough to warrant a dismissal of the entire case, but she concluded that the inclusion of Trump as the sitting U.S. president violated the proper separation of powers.

The original lawsuit had named President Barack Obama as a defendant. After Trump took office, the lawsuit was amended to instead name Trump as a defendant.

The lawsuit still includes the heads of other U.S. agencies. The names of the heads of those agencies were also amended with the change to the Trump administration.

The potentially far-reaching case is one of a handful seeking to have courts address global warming and its causes.

The U.S. Justice Department said it was reviewing Monday’s decision and in a statement called the lawsuit an unconstitutional attempt to control the entire country’s climate and energy policy through a single court.

A spokeswoman for the plaintiffs did not return a request for comment on Monday’s decision.

The federal government in a court filing on Friday asked the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to halt the case while it is seeking review by the U.S. Supreme Court.

The plaintiffs say in the lawsuit that extreme weather events, such as flooding, caused them emotional trauma and damage to their health, safety, cultural practices, food security and economic stability.

The government argued those injuries are widespread environmental phenomena affecting all other people on the planet and said the issue did not belong in court.

The federal defendants also contended that letting the case proceed would be too burdensome, would unconstitutionally pit the courts against the executive branch, and would require improper “agency decision-making” by forcing officials to answer questions about climate change.

Aiken in her Monday decision rejected those arguments, saying the plaintiffs had offered extensive expert declarations to link their injuries to fossil fuel-induced climate change.

She also said there was sufficient evidence that government actions, such as coal leasing, oil development and fossil fuel industry subsidies, led to the children’s injuries.
Reporting by Tina Bellon; Editing by David Gregorio and Leslie Adler

Our Standards:The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.

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really long article  but worth the read

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/midterms-democrats-attorney-general-climate-lawsuits_us_5be5f199e4b0e8438897aa58

11/10/2018 08:00 am ET
By Alexander C. Kaufman

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Wins By Democratic Attorneys General Threaten To Multiply Climate Suits Against Big Oil

The oil and gas industry’s expensive victories in the midterm elections could come at a price.

Democrats scored a string of state attorney general victories on Tuesday night, ousting loyal oil and gas allies and threatening to add to mounting lawsuits against the industry over climate change.

The party flipped four states and held 13, re-electing incumbents in seven of them. in an election sweep that secured Democrats 27 states that represent over 58 percent of the U.S. population and 63 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product. The top-cop posts are considered the “most effective way” to challenge President Donald Trump’s environmental agenda.

During the Obama administration, Republican attorneys general became a fearsome opposition force, coalescing around legal challenges to landmark power plant, health care and water regulations. The new Democratic majority comes as the party’s rising stars are already jockeying to make names for themselves by sparring with the Trump administration.

The sweep Tuesday comes as climate change-related litigation at the city and county levels is finally making landfall in state capitals, with two states now suing oil companies and another charging ahead with an investigation that’s likely to lead to a third lawsuit.

Rhode Island became the first state to sue the industry directly in July. The Ocean State named 14 oil and gas behemoths and their subsidies in a historic suit accusing the firms of creating a public nuisance under state law by failing to warn the public and regulators of warming and sea level rise the companies knew would result from increasing emissions.

Last month, New York’s acting attorney general sued Exxon Mobil, alleging that the nation’s largest oil company defrauded investors by obscuring the risks its business faced due to climate change and regulations to mitigate it.

The newly elected Democratic attorneys general in those states are expected to continue the suits.

But the seats that flipped blue could threaten an industry that notched big wins on Tuesday night after spending more than $100 million to successfully tank three ballot measures to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

In three states, the industry lost key allies.

Democrat Dana Nessel in Michigan routed her GOP opponent Tom Leonard, the state representative handpicked to replace outgoing state Attorney General Bill Schuette, who in September filed an amicus brief backing Exxon Mobil and calling climate change “unsettled science.”

In Wisconsin, Republican Attorney General Brad Schimel, who stormed to Exxon Mobil’s defense in October, fell to Democrat Josh Kaul. The former prosecutor painted Schimel as a corporate stooge who “put the interests of polluters ahead of” the Badger State.

Nevada Attorney General Adam Laxalt began quietly deploying his state’s legal resources to fight New York’s investigation of Exxon Mobil two years ago. Not only did he lose his bid for governor to Steve Sisolak on Tuesday, but Democrat Aaron Ford also edged out Laxalt’s heir apparent, Wes Duncan, in the attorney general race.

Mile-High Standards

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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on November 27, 2018, 09:00:26 pm

totally unreal  they are probably the ones still thinking the earth is flat
sigh
they drained the swamp alright..no intelligent life left


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-federal-climate-change-report-not-based-on-facts/ar-BBQaiNl?li=BBnb7Kz

White House: Federal climate change report 'not based on facts'
Steven Nelson  7 hrs ago

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White House press secretary Sarah Sanders denounced a new climate-change report as "not data driven" and "not based on facts," sharpening the Trump administration's repudiation of the document crafted by 13 federal agencies.

Sanders denounced the National Climate Assessment during a Tuesday press briefing, defending President Trump's publicly expressed doubt about its warning of potentially severe ocean-level rises and associated economic costs.

"You have to look at the fact that this report is based on the most extreme modeled scenario, which contradicts long-established trends," Sanders said. "Modeling the climate is an extremely complicated science that is never exact."

much more at link

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actual report if you want to read it

[PDF]Report - IPCC
https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/session48/pr_181008_P48_spm_en.pdf
Oct 8, 2018 - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) said on Monday. The Special Report on Global Warming of 1.5ºC was approved by the ...

[PDF]Report - IPCC - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
https://report.ipcc.ch/sr15/pdf/sr15_spm_final.pdf
An IPCC Special Report on the impacts of global warming of 1.5°C ..... Several regional changes in climate are assessed to occur with global warming up.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/27/us/politics/climate-report-fact-check.html
By Linda Qiu
Nov. 27, 2018




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FACT CHECK OF THE DAY

The Baseless Claim That Climate Scientists Are ‘Driven’ by Money
Critics of a major United States climate report, including the president and conservative pundits, have dismissed its findings with several inaccurate claims.

WHAT WAS SAID

“The reality is that a lot of these scientists are driven by the money that they receive. And, of course, they don’t receive money from corporations and Exxon and the like.”

— Rick Santorum, the former Republican senator from Pennsylvania, in remarks on CNN on Sunday

“The report is nothing more than a rehash of age-old 10- to 20-year assumptions made by scientists that get paid to further the politics of global warming.”

— Tom DeLay, Republican of Texas who was the former House majority leader, in in remarks on CNN on Monday

THE FACTS

This lacks evidence.
The federal government’s most recent climate change report, released last week, warned that global warming could cause substantial damage to the American economy, human health and the environment. The report has prompted some critics to dismiss climate scientists as corrupted by money, a common but baseless attack.

“We were paid zero dollars to produce the national assessment,” Katharine Hayhoe, an author of the report, said in an interview. “In fact, there was a reverse financial motive.”

Researchers working in climate change do not receive atypically large paychecks, nor do they strike it rich from grants. The claim also ignores that internal research from oil companies affirms the scientific consensus on climate change.

Professors at public universities who teach earth sciences and environmental studies generally earn more than their peers in humanities and social sciences, but less than faculty in the economics, business and law departments, according to data from the Association of American Universities.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/11/most-chilling-parts-2018-climate-assessment/576598/

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The Three Most Chilling Conclusions From the Climate Report
Thirteen federal agencies agree: Climate change has already wreaked havoc on the United States, and the worst is likely yet to come.

RACHEL GUTMAN
NOV 26, 2018

On Friday afternoon, the U.S. government published a major and ominous climate report. Despite being released on a holiday, when it seemed the smallest number of people would be paying attention, the latest installment of the National Climate Assessment is, as told to my colleague Robinson Meyer, full of “information that every human needs.”

Read: A grave climate warning, buried on Black Friday

The report traces the effects climate change has already wrought upon every region of the United States, from nationwide heat waves to dwindling snowpacks in the West. In blunt and disturbing terms, it also envisions the devastation yet to come.

The document’s dire claims, backed by 13 federal agencies, come frequently into conflict with the aims of the administration that released it. Where the Trump administration has sought to loosen restrictions on car emissions, the report warns that vehicles are contributing to unhealthy ozone levels that affect nearly a third of Americans. Whereas the president has ensured that the United States will no longer meet the goals outlined in the Paris Agreement on climate change, the report says that ignoring Paris could accelerate coral bleaching in Hawaii by more than a decade.

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Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Ellirium113 on November 28, 2018, 03:51:22 pm
Climate has always changed. If they want to stop it they best use the money to get off the planet because there is no amount of money you can throw at this to make it go away EVER. Only problem is...their new colonized planet will also need saving because this issue is not limited to this planet. Apparently the fly in the ointment here is the solar cycles. Sun is not a set temperature so tweaking the atmosphere to block sunlight will probably result in us dying off even faster than we normally planned to kill our own species off with brain dead knee jerk reactions. I for one, don't plan on throwing a single cent at the problem as it can not be adressed without a fundamental change to human behaviors and processes in place. At the end of the day the almighty dollar and corporate profits will out weigh any scientific data regardless of it's urgency.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on November 28, 2018, 04:23:58 pm


Ellirium113

i totally agree with you... to deny that the climate is changing  is totally stupid imo
you just have to witness the weather for a month to understand that we are beyond denial
and the earth has reached a point of change that i don't feel can be stopped either, regardless of how we got here..we are here

and i feel
it would be much better if information about survival was being shared
rather than saying it's not happening or pointing fingers as to why

as far as blocking the sun..that's been going on a lot longer than most folks know about....
our skies here are rarely blue and the beauty that we could see in the night sky is also gone..

just think about it.... it's not that your old memories were brighter  because you were young..
they were brighter both night and day..before they (who ever THEY are) started dumping stuff into the atmosphere

sad    sigh
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on November 29, 2018, 07:36:23 pm
Everything goes in cycles, and so does the ecology of our blue marble; every planet in our solar system is warming up, thanks to our sun's current cycle of activity, yet there is naught any can do to affect it

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 according to the ices cores taken detailing the last 400,000 years we are overdue for another ice age; hopefully civilization as we know it will survive it when it does occur again...

Seeker
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on December 16, 2018, 09:40:22 am



have money / have voice   this is so f***ed

this should probably go under fake news




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Revealing the influence of money in politics
Yeah like we didn't already know that >:(

Tax Return Shows Mercer Family Funded Climate Skeptics Last Year With More Than $4 Million
Rebekah Mercer and her father, Robert Mercer, have also supported Steve Bannon, Breitbart and Cambridge Analytica.
12/14/2018 02:02 pm ET

By Andrew Perez

A controversial family credited with helping Donald Trump win the White House spent $4.4 million in 2017 to finance climate change deniers, according to its foundation’s latest tax return filed in November.

The Mercer Family Foundation, led by Rebekah Mercer and funded by her billionaire father, Robert Mercer, donated almost $4 million in 2016 to organizations that reject the scientific consensus regarding man-made climate change or oppose more regulations on carbon emissions, according to BuzzFeed News.

The new details about the Mercers’ continued support for climate change skeptics come on the heels of a U.N. report that found that humans have only 12 years to significantly reduce carbon emissions or face a global catastrophe — with more extreme weather and rising sea levels likely to cause mass displacement of people.

The Mercers gave $800,000 last year to the Heartland Institute, a Chicago-based think tank that argues that the science on climate change is uncertain. The family has contributed $6.7 million to the institute since 2008. Their foundation donated $170,000 last year to the CO2 Coalition, a nonprofit that touts the benefits of carbon emissions; it gave $150,000 to the coalition in 2016.

The Energy & Environment Legal Institute, a coal-funded nonprofit that uses lawsuits and public record requests to challenge environmental regulations and climate scientists, emerged as a new recipient of Mercer family largesse in 2017. The Mercers donated $200,000 to the institute, which had previously sued a handful of state attorneys general investigating whether ExxonMobil misled the public about the dangers of climate change.

The Mercer Family Foundation contributed to four other organizations that have promoted climate change skepticism, including the Media Research Center ($2 million), the Cato Institute ($300,000), the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research ($450,000), and the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine ($500,000).

The Mercers were among the biggest boosters of Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign. The family was closely aligned with Steve Bannon, the former White House strategist and Trump campaign CEO, and funded his conservative news outlet, Breitbart. The Mercers directed and funded a pro-Trump super PAC. They also owned a stake in Cambridge Analytica, a data firm that worked for the Trump campaign and abruptly shut down after it was revealed that the company had harvested private information from the profiles of tens of millions of Facebook users.

Late last year, Robert Mercer announced his resignation as co-CEO of the hedge fund Renaissance Technologies, amid outrage over his family’s association with Trump and their financial support for a former Breitbart writer with reported ties to white nationalists.

In January, more than 200 scientists and academics endorsed a letter demanding Rebekah Mercer’s removal from the board of directors of the American Museum of Natural History in New York. The family’s foundation contributed $625,000 to the museum in 2017, and Mercer is still on its board.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tax-return-shows-mercer-family-fueled-climate-skeptics_us_5c12be38e4b0cce3ea29d15f
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Post by: thorfourwinds on May 24, 2019, 08:02:17 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKB4L6r17FE

Control the Weather to Control the World: Nukes Not Needed

Flash floods submerged 90 percent of Iran, displaced 500,000 people (https://watchers.news/2019/05/24/flash-floods-submerged-90-percent-of-iran-displaced-500-000-people/)

Posted by Teo Blašković
May 24, 2019

At the peak of the recent flood disaster in Iran, half a million people have been displaced and 90% of land submerged, the Internal Displacement Monitoring Center (IDMC) reports. One of the worst affected provinces was Golestan, which received approximately 70% of its annual rainfall in 24 hours, something that had not been seen in over 300 years.

Lorestan and the oil-rich province of Khuzestan were among the worst-affected.
The impact spread to more than 2 000 towns and villages affecting over 10 million people in both rural and urban centers, relief efforts began.

Describing systematic failure, IDMC said one of the most criticized aspects of the handling of disaster so far has been the planned redirection of floodwaters towards populated areas, as well as the release of emergency discharge waters toward farms and crops to avoid a major overflow of reservoirs and dams.

While it is undeniable that some extent of the damage and losses could have been prevented, it is also true that the unusual and unexpected situation caught population and water management authorities by surprise, IDMC said.

A new wave of deadly storms started affecting the country two weeks ago, killing at least 24 people. 4 people were killed by flooding and another 20 after they were struck by lightning, a spokesman for Iran's emergency services said May 23.
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Post by: thorfourwinds on May 25, 2019, 10:21:02 am
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/mt_everest_jam.jpg)

8 Dead on Mount Everest After Traffic Jams Form During Window of Good Weather (https://weather.com/news/news/2019-05-24-mount-everest-deaths-good-weather-traffic-jams)


Newly Released Video of Nebraska Flooding in Mind-numbing (https://weather.com/news/weather/video/newly-released-video-of-nebraska-flooding-in-mind-numbing?isSubsequent=true)
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Post by: thorfourwinds on May 25, 2019, 02:16:50 pm
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Prado_Dam.png)

In this Jan. 14, 2005 file photo crews using heavy machinery work to stop a leak of excess rainwater from the Prado Dam that forced the evacuation of hundreds of homes in Corona, Calif.
(AP Photo/Chris Carlson)


California's Prado Dam at Risk of Failure in Significant Rain Event, Corps of Engineers Says (https://weather.com/news/news/2019-05-17-prado-dam-california-at-risk)

The Weather Channel
17 May 2019


At a Glance

The dam was built in 1941.

It protects dozens of communities and 1.4 million people downstream.
Repairs to the spillway are expected to start in 2021.

California's Prado Dam, which protects some 1.4 million people, could be at risk for failure in a significant flood event, according to a new Army Corps of Engineers report.

The Corps raised the dam's risk level this week from "moderate urgency" to "high urgency" based on a recent assessment.

The Prado Dam is on the Santa Ana River in Corona, on the border of Riverside and Orange counties. A failure of the spillway could affect dozens of communities in Orange County, from Disneyland to Newport Beach, the Los Angeles Times reported.

“Our concern right now is about the concrete slab of the spillway and how well it will perform if water were to spill over the top of the dam,” Lillian Doherty, the Army Corps’ division chief, told the Times. “We will determine whether or not it is as reliable as it should be.”

Engineers are working with a national team of experts to reduce the risks associated with the spillway, according to a press release from the Corps.

"The Corps’ assessment of the dam doesn’t mean that failure is taking place," the statement reads. "It means the agency has identified performance concerns that require attention to meet the Corps’ rigorous dam safety standards."

The dam is usually dry except during winter storms, and has never experienced a storm large enough to cause water to breach the spillway, the Corps said. It was built in 1941.

It's already in the process of being modified as part of a larger effort in the Santa Ana River area that began in 2002. Modification of the spillway will be the last step, and that's expected to begin in 2021. The project has an $880 million price tag, according to the Times.

Major problems have already been identified in other aging California dams. The concrete spillway at the Oroville Dam failed during heaving rains in 2017, forcing the evacuation of 180,000 people. The spillway recently reopened, after $1.1 billion in repairs.

That same year, the Corps of Engineers found that the 60-year-old Whittier Narrows Dam, about 40 miles to the west of Prado Dam, was structurally unsafe and could put more than 1 million people at risk.

“A troubling theme is emerging as the Corps reviews its portfolio of large flood control systems that were built a long time ago and are now showing signs of severe stress,” Daniel Swain, a UCLA climate scientist, told the Times.
 
“Federal engineers are finding that these systems are not as resilient as they thought they were, and that the frequency of what were regarded as once-in-a-lifetime storms is increasing significantly.”


The Weather Company’s primary journalistic mission is to report on breaking weather news, the environment and the importance of science to our lives. This story does not necessarily represent the position of our parent company, IBM.
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Post by: space otter on May 25, 2019, 02:48:38 pm
photos and video are copyrighted so go to the link to see them
also more info at the link


really cool about the sound...makes you wonder about the loud ones folks were hearing all over the world and reporting for years



https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2019/05/strange-waves-rippled-around-earth-may-know-why/

Since May 2018, a strange seismic swarm has been rumbling around Mayotte, which includes the island of Chissioua Mbouzi seen in the bottom of this picture. Research now shows that the epicenter of the earthquake swarm and a newly detected volcano both sit northeast of this island.
PHOTOGRAPH BY HEMIS / ALAMY
SCIENCE & INNOVATION
Strange waves rippled around Earth. Now we may know why.
An “exceptional phenomenon” near the tiny islands of Mayotte may help explain a low-frequency rumble that swept around the world last year.
7 MINUTE READ
BY MAYA WEI-HAAS
PUBLISHED MAY 21, 2019

ON MAY 10, 2018, the geologic beasts of the tiny island of Mayotte began to stir. Thousands of earthquakes rattled the French island, which is sandwiched between Africa and Madagascar. Most were minor shakes, but they included a magnitude 5.8 event that struck on May 15, the largest yet recorded in the region's history.

In the midst of this seismic swarm, a strange low-frequency rumble rippled around the world, ringing sensors nearly 11,000 miles away—and baffling scientists.

Now, researchers may have at last found the source of the unexpected activity: the birth of a submarine volcano some 31 miles off Mayotte's eastern shore. Sitting about two miles underwater, the baby volcano stretches nearly half a mile high and extends up to three miles across.

The observations came after French scientists launched a multi-pronged mission to get a better grip on the origin of the ongoing seismic swarm. Coordinated by France's National Center for Scientific Research (CNRS), the work includes surveys from the ship Marion Dufresne co-led by Nathalie Feuillet from the Institut de Physique du Globe de Paris (IPGP) and Stephan Jorry of the French research institute IFREMER. The latest venture also retrieved six underwater seismometers that have been listening for earthquakes since February.

VOLCANOES 101
Volcanoes are as dangerous as they are majestic. Over 50 eruptions rock our planet every year. This video helps you understand what causes volcanoes to form and erupt—and shows where they are most likely to be found.
The data are still preliminary, and the scientists are currently working to analyze their findings and publish the research in a peer-reviewed journal. In the meantime, the team has issued a joint press release announcing the new volcano and its probable link to the odd throng of earthquakes.


Hot Zone

“In light of this discovery, the government is fully mobilized to pursue and deepen our understanding of this exceptional phenomenon and take necessary measures to categorize and prevent any risks it represents,” the agencies say in the release.

Stephen Hicks, a seismologist at Imperial College who previously analyzed Mayotte's strange seismic happenings, adds that the announcement offers some much needed clarity for the island's inhabitants, who have been thoroughly shaken after months of unexplained tremors.

The geologic mystery
Mayotte is part of the Comoro archipelago, a string of volcanic islands northwest of Madagascar. While volcanism isn't unheard of in the region, Mayotte has long remained silent, with its last eruption bursting free more than 4,000 years ago. But starting in May of last year, the geologic activity on Mayotte kicked into high gear. Since the swarm began, more than 1,800 earthquakes greater than magnitude 3.5 have rattled the tiny island. The land itself also seems to be on the move, drifting 0.6 inches east and sinking roughly 0.4 inches down each month since mid-July.


SCIENCE & INNOVATION
Strange waves rippled around Earth. Now we may know why.
In November, the curious low-frequency rumbles began their global spread, sticking around for more than 20 minutes. Too low of a frequency for humans to feel, only one person noticed the curious waves: An earthquake enthusiast who goes by the handle @matarikipax spotted the unusual zigzags on the U.S. Geological Survey's real-time seismogram displays and posted them on Twitter, drawing an international cohort of scientists to the mystery.

“It was clearly a both concerning and fascinating event that was happening,” says marine seismologist Wayne Crawford of IPGP, who was part of the recent expedition. “It was something we’d never seen before.”

Even back then, the experts' conclusion was that the quakes and strange seismic signal were likely related to the movement of molten rock. Perhaps the earthquake swarm was the result of magma squishing through the subsurface, and the low-frequency rumble was caused by waves resonating in a collapsing magma chamber.

The link to volcanic activity gained further support from a preprint study posted to the EarthArxiv server in February 2019. That research pinned the swarm on a massive magma chamber starting to drain, in what could be the largest off-shore submarine volcanic event yet documented.

Surveys from the ship Marion Dufresne are helping to explain what's happening off Mayotte's eastern shore. In this image, collected during a recent expedition, a dashed circle shows the origin of the latest… Read More
ILLUSTRATION BY INSTITUT DE PHYSIQUE DU GLOBE DE PARIS
But with limited monitoring of these earthquakes near their epicenters out at sea, and no direct evidence of an eruption, nothing more definitive could be said at the time.

Pregnant Earth
Then, on May 16, the French collaboration issued their press release, and Robin Lacassin of the Institut de Physique du Globe de Paris, one of the organizations involved in the research, posted a pair of images on Twitter. One picture shows the newborn volcano as seen via acoustic imaging, which acts somewhat like a dolphin using sonar to sense its surroundings.

“It's almost a pregnancy ultrasound ... only with larger error bars,” said geophysicist Lucile Bruhat, who was not part of the research team, about the picture on Twitter.

It's almost a pregnancy ultrasound ... only with larger error bars.
LUCILE BRUHAT, ECOLE NORMALE SUPÉRIEURE
In the image, a twisting plume rises 1.2 miles through the water column from the top of a conical edifice. Exactly what this plume is made of remains unknown, but the sound waves might be bouncing off glassy shards similar to the ash that billows out of erupting volcanoes on land, notes Helen Robinson, a Ph.D. candidate in applied volcanology at the University of Glasgow, via email. But even temperature and density differences of the water would show up in the images, Crawford adds, so the plume could just be a hot mineral-rich stream, like the roiling waters from hydrothermal vents.

While the volcano is definitely young, exactly how young remains up for debate. It was absent in seafloor maps of the region drawn up in 2015—and the team thinks that it didn't exist prior to the onset of earthquake activity last May, Crawford says. Its birth could be as recent as the summer of 2018, when GPS sensors tracked the island sinking and shifting east as, presumably, magma drained from a chamber below.

“What we know for a fact is that that thing didn’t exist in 2015, and now it’s here,” he says.

The other image reveals a series of bumpy structures on the seafloor that seems to form a loose path to the new volcanic center from where the most recent earthquakes are rattling, between three and nine miles offshore Mayotte's Petite-Terre island. Even in the area where the new volcano is forming, abundant ridges and bumps reveal past eruptions that could have emerged many years ago, Crawford says.

“Maybe that volcanic center has migrated away from the island itself,” Hicks speculates, but he notes that more data are needed to date these potential spots of volcanic activity and confirm this mechanism.

Crawford agrees that the features seem to be volcanic. And by using the new earthquake data to recalibrate the old, a curious pattern emerges, he says. The quake swarm seems to split into three activity centers along the ridge of bumpy structures: one under the new volcano, the most recent roughly six miles offshore, and a third one halfway in between. But how these regions are connected is unknown, Crawford says.

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 02, 2019, 01:59:04 pm
FOR THE RECORD:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4saE1zqMQrk

MASS EVACUATIONS FIRES AND FLOODS #WEATHERWARFARE LIVE!! #ANALYSIS

Mike Morales
Streamed live 18 hours ago


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO81C1k2h6Y

This just doesn't happen in THIS part of the World - But It DID!!

MrMBB333
Published on Jun 1, 2019
https://www.mrmbb333.com


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=472&v=BDlTlzNBMDU

Tropical System/Crossing Yucatan/Swampicane Update. End of Q Cult

The Real BPEarthWatch
Published on May 31, 2019

The National Weather Service is Watching a Tropical System Crossing the Yucatan and into the Bay of Campeche
Hurricane Links @ https://www.BPEarthWatch.Com


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=XmvI5OqfHds

London Hit by Double Quakes, M3.3, France Rattled at Fault Lines!
MAJOR QUAKE COMING?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC2Q6FslZzg

Tornado watch issued for all of central U.S.

CBS Evening News
Published on May 27, 2019

The central U.S. is stuck in a cycle of dangerous storms that won't stop anytime soon. Tornadoes struck again Monday in Iowa and Illinois, and more may fire up tonight. At least 15 people have been killed by tornadoes and flooding in the last week. Omar Villafranca reports.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXnSzUJmacw

Violent tornado' hits Missouri's capital

ABC News
Published on May 23, 2019

Authorities in Jefferson City described a scene of significant damage and "multiple" injuries, but no confirmed fatalities.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5SmSPEpW04

Storms move east as more than 50 twisters are reported in 8 states

ABC News
Published on May 28, 2019

An 81-year-old man was killed when a car crashed into his house after tornadoes struck several cities in Ohio, including Dayton.


50 tornados across 8 states in the last 24 hours…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slu4mrzSoMs

Dayton official describes devastation of tornado strike

ABC News
Published on May 28, 2019

Dayton Assistant Fire Chief Nicholas Hosford tells "GMA" how the Ohio city is recovering after a severe tornado swept through.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8cXjquEMeA

Large Waldo Kansas Tornado Entire Life Cycle

5-28-19
Adam Lucio


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl8WHpWG4UE

What's behind the recent rash of violent weather?

PBS NewsHour
Published on May 29, 2019

Violent weather has tormented regions from the Rocky Mountains to the Mid-Atlantic in recent weeks. In Kansas Tuesday night, strong tornadoes tore houses apart, littered an airport runway with debris and hoisted a car onto a roof -- but widespread flooding may be the biggest and most prolonged threat. William Brangham talks to atmospheric scientist Victor Gensini about the brutal spring weather.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcLRx55DAj8

Kansas declares tornado emergency

ABC News
Published on May 29, 2019

An apparent tornado hit Lawrence, Kansas,  injuring 11 people, while Kansas City International Airport briefly shut down due to damage.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFvsTvjWUSg

Record-breaking 12-day spate of tornadoes devastates central U.S.

CBS This Morning
Published on May 29, 2019

A record-breaking, devastating tornado pattern could threaten more Americans on Wednesday. For 12 straight days, at least eight tornadoes have been reported across the Central Plains and Midwest. That’s the longest stretch of its kind in nearly 40 years. This dangerous weather is blamed for 15 deaths in the past two weeks. Jericka Duncan reports.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIVxZPxgtBk

Weather Xtreme Video - Sunday, June 2nd, 2019

ABC 33/40 Weather
Published on Jun 2, 2019

The ABC 33/40 Weather Xtreme video is a detailed weather discussion for Alabama and the Southeast U.S. which goes beyond the normal stuff you see on TV! From James Spann and the team of meteorologists at ABC 33/40.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on July 01, 2019, 04:05:45 pm


it's upside down weather..yikes


Quote
https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/alaska-is-hot-and-on-fire/ar-AADHjc6?li=BBnb7Kz
Alaska Is Hot and on Fire
excerpt
Europe isn’t the only part of the world that’s been roasting and burning of late. So is Alaska.

Record and near-record heat swept the Last Frontier over the weekend, with stations across the state’s interior recording daily highs of close to 90 degrees Fahrenheit on Saturday. On Sunday, temperatures rose to 92 degrees in Northway near the state’s Yukon border, smashing the all-time heat record set in 1942. Temperatures in Anchorage peaked at a comparably balmy 82, which still marked the capital city’s hottest day in three years.

The heat helped wildfires explode over the weekend, and their smoke is spreading far and wide. Saturday saw Anchorage’s first-ever dense smoke advisory as the Swan Lake Fire ballooned in size on the Kenai peninsula to the south.





https://www.foxnews.com/world/freak-hailstorm-in-mexico-buries-cars-swamps-streets-in-feet-of-ice



WEATHERPublished 8 hours ago
Freak hailstorm in Mexico buries cars, swamps streets in up to 5 feet of ice

 By Travis Fedschun | Fox News
One of Mexico's largest cities was transformed into a scene straight out of winter Sunday when a freak hailstorm dropped a deluge of ice that left streets impassable and cars buried.

excerpt
The hailstorm in Guadalajara, located north of Mexico City, came after several days during which temperatures approached 90 degrees.

Residents across the city of around five million woke up Sunday morning to discover mounds of ice up to five feet deep in places from the overnight storm, Agence France-Presse reported.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on July 01, 2019, 04:31:14 pm

it's upside down weather..yikes
Yes it is, otter and it is part of the cycle we are in; read the book "The Coming Global Superstorm" co-authored by Art Bell (rip) it is what the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" was based upon; not fiction, but plausible scientific theory...

It's a long ways from me to Mexico, but I may have to head down that way some day...
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: WhatTheHey on July 01, 2019, 05:34:24 pm
 :o  Soooooooooo!........Be good for goodness sake!........Don't blink or you'll be late.........That's late as in the late Arthur dent.  lol  Sounds like a good time to hitch a ride to another planet or galaxy!  8)   My thumb is out and I'm waiting with an eye to the sky.   Now if I can only find that dang guide book of mine before someone flies in to give me a lift.!  ::)   lol

   I really enjoyed "A Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" and now it looks like we could use just such a book.  LOL ;D
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on July 01, 2019, 06:20:03 pm
It's a long ways from me to Mexico, but I may have to head down that way some day...
No escape from "upside down weather" there either...

Photos show freak summer hailstorm coating roads with 5 feet of ice in Guadalajara, Mexico (https://www.insider.com/guadalajara-mexico-freak-hail-storm-photos-2019-7)

Quote
A freak hailstorm blanketed large parts of Guadalajara on Sunday, coating the southwestern Mexican city's roads with up to 5 feet of ice.

The city had been experiencing temperatures of about 31 degrees Celsius (88 degrees Fahrenheit) in the days before the unexpected storm.

Dozens of vehicles were swept away, and cars and trucks were submerged. There were also reports of damage to homes and businesses.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on July 01, 2019, 06:33:57 pm
No escape from "upside down weather" there either...

Photos show freak summer hailstorm coating roads with 5 feet of ice in Guadalajara, Mexico (https://www.insider.com/guadalajara-mexico-freak-hail-storm-photos-2019-7)
Oh Yeah I have been watching the videos of that hailstorm in guadalahara, ArMaP; the scenario I don't want to see is the Gulf Stream to stop flowing along with the north Atlantic current; if that happens (due to desalination of the oceans) then we are all in deep shit without a dinghy, much less a paddle...
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: WhatTheHey on July 02, 2019, 05:25:17 pm
 ::)   8)   Here is something for the climate watchers.   8)   Europe’s latest heat wave has been linked to climate change. lol (Don't you just love it.) lol  ::) This report is saying climate change made it five times more likely that Europe would experience a powerful heat wave like the one that baked the region in June, an international team of scientists reports.
 
   Also......................."Global warming driven by human activity made the heat wave at least five times more likely By Carolyn Gramling 1:26pm, July 2, 2019"

   And this................."The findings, released July 2 by the World Weather Attribution Network, tackle the tricky question of how the heat wave might have been linked to global warming (SN Online: 6/2/19). The extreme weather broke heat records in parts of Germany, Switzerland, Italy, Spain, the Netherlands and the Czech Republic, and set an all-time high for France of 45.9° Celsius (114.6° Fahrenheit)."

   The page...............https://www.sciencenews.org/article/europe-france-june-heat-wave-climate-change?tgt=nr

   Oh you guys are just gona love this stuff...... :D    LOL   
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on August 14, 2019, 06:26:19 pm


Quote
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49295051

Plastic particles falling out of sky with snow in Arctic
By Roger Harrabin
BBC environment analyst
7 hours ago

lots of nice pics at the link

Even in the Arctic, microscopic particles of plastic are falling out of the sky with snow, a study has found.

The scientists said they were shocked by the sheer number of particles they found: more than 10,000 of them per litre in the Arctic.

It means that even there, people are likely to be breathing in microplastics from the air - though the health implications remain unclear.

The region is often seen as one of the world's last pristine environments.

A German-Swiss team of researchers has published the work in the journal Science Advances.

The scientists also found rubber particles and fibres in the snow.

How did the researchers carry out the study?
Researchers collected snow samples from the Svalbard islands using a low-tech method - a dessert spoon and a flask.

In the laboratory at Germany's Alfred Wegener Institute in Bremerhaven they discovered far more contaminating particles than they'd expected.

Many were so small that it was hard to ascertain where they had come from.

The majority appeared to be composed of natural materials like plant cellulose and animal fur. But there were also particles of plastic, along with fragments of rubber tyres, varnish, paint and possibly synthetic fibres.

The lead scientist, Dr Melanie Bergmann, told BBC News: "We expected to find some contamination but to find this many microplastics was a real shock."

She said: "It's readily apparent that the majority of the microplastic in the snow comes from the air."

Microplastics are defined as those particles below 5mm in size.

Addressing their potential effects on people, Dr Bergmann explained: "We don't know if the plastics will be harmful to human health or not. But we need to take much better care of the way we're treating our environment."

The scientists also analysed snow from sites in Germany and Switzerland. Samples taken from some areas of Germany showed higher concentrations than in the Arctic.

How is plastic pollution reaching the Arctic?
The researchers think microplastics are being blown about by winds and then - through mechanisms which are not fully understood - transported long distances through the atmosphere.

The particles are then "washed" out of the atmosphere through precipitation, particularly snow.

A study published in April by a British-French team showed that microplastics were falling from the sky onto the French Pyrenees, another supposedly pristine region.

Previously, research groups have found plastics in the atmospheric fallout of Dongguan, China, Tehran in Iran, and Paris, France.

As for where the pollution is coming from, here too there are uncertainties.

The presence of so many varnish particles in the Arctic was a puzzle.

The researchers assume that some of the contamination may have come from ships grinding against the ice. But they also speculate that some may have come off wind turbines.

The fibre fragments may be from people's clothing, although it's not possible to tell at the moment.

Dr Bergmann explained: "We have to ask - do we need so much plastic packaging? Do we need all the polymers in the paints we use? Can we come up with differently designed car tyres? These are important issues."

Dr Eldbjørg Sofie Heimstad, from the Norwegian Institute for Air Research, Kjeller, who was not involved in the latest study, told me that some of the particle pollution was local and some had drifted from afar.

She said: "We know that most of what we are analysing up there and measuring are long-range transported pollution coming from [Europe], from Asia, coming from all over the world.

"Some of these chemicals have properties that are a threat for the ecosystem, for living animals."

What does this mean for the Arctic?
The results follow on the heels of our exclusive report last year that the highest concentrations of plastic particles in the ocean were to be found in Arctic sea-ice.

Plastic waste is also drifting for hundreds or even thousands of kilometres to land on remote Arctic beaches.

It is depressing news for people who have regarded the far north as one of the last pristine environments on Earth.

At a dog sledding centre near Tromsø in the Norwegian Arctic, one of the staff, Lili, told us: "It makes me incredibly sad. We've got plastics in the sea-ice. We've got plastics in the ocean and on the beaches. Now plastic in snow.

"Up here we see the beauty of it every day, and to see that it's changing so much and being tainted - it hurts."
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on August 14, 2019, 06:54:58 pm

This is disturbing, for it makes me wonder how much we are inhaling with each breath  :o

I also wonder about the % of contaminants in Antartica...

At times I think we need to be invaded by a benelovent advanced race so they can maybe stop some of this stupidity and hopefully clean up and reverse the damage wrought...

 ::) ::) ::)

Seeker
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on August 15, 2019, 03:45:20 am
At times I think we need to be invaded by a benelovent advanced race so they can maybe stop some of this stupidity and hopefully clean up and reverse the damage wrought...
What we need is to stop thinking that what we do doesn't have consequences.

When we started producing too much garbage we started piling it up on specific places, thinking nothing bad would happen, until those places started to get too big and affecting water sources. Then we started throwing our garbage to the oceans. After all, they are so huge, nothing wrong can happen. Now we are seeing that the oceans are also getting too full of garbage, so we are left with no other place to send our garbage to except space, but that is too expensive right now, so I suppose that's the only reason we haven't done it yet (except for a useless car sent by an idiot with too much money).
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on August 15, 2019, 10:26:33 am
What we need is to stop thinking that what we do doesn't have consequences.
We are in total agreement on that, ArMaP, but unfortunately nobody listens to us...

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When we started producing too much garbage we started piling it up on specific places, thinking nothing bad would happen, until those places started to get too big and affecting water sources. Then we started throwing our garbage to the oceans. After all, they are so huge, nothing wrong can happen. Now we are seeing that the oceans are also getting too full of garbage, so we are left with no other place to send our garbage to except space
I worked for a recycling company for 5 years, and there are only 2 things I am aware of that cannot be readily recycled and re-purposed; styro-foam and that gelatinous glob they put in baby diapers to absorb water; it's just getting anyone interested in setting up the facilities to do it... I tried to, but there are those who do not wish it to become reality, and it was not worth dying for...

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but that is too expensive right now, so I suppose that's the only reason we haven't done it yet (except for a useless car sent by an idiot with too much money).
hehehe, now ArMaP, you know Elon Musk just had to put that car in outer space, just to show the world that he could just because he wanted to...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: ArMaP on August 15, 2019, 10:36:03 am
, hehehe, now ArMaP, you know Elon Musk just had to put that car in outer space, just to show the world that he could just because he wanted to...
That's what I said, an idiot. :)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on August 15, 2019, 10:59:35 am
That's what I said, an idiot. :)
  ;D ;D ;D

he needs to donate all those funds he wasted to us for research  :P
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on August 15, 2019, 12:50:09 pm
We are in total agreement on that, ArMaP, but unfortunately nobody listens to us...
I worked for a recycling company for 5 years, and there are only 2 things I am aware of that cannot be readily recycled and re-purposed; styro-foam and that gelatinous glob they put in baby diapers to absorb water; it's just getting anyone interested in setting up the facilities to do it... I tried to, but there are those who do not wish it to become reality, and it was not worth dying for...


I saw a show on tv sometime ago, one of those documentaries about landfills...
Everyone cries about garbage and the waste and the harm it does to the environment. How the US is a great polluter of the environment.

Well researchers took every landfill in the US in mileage and put them all together in a computer estimate.
Do you know how much space every landfill in the US takes up? 35 Sq. Miles!...That's it. It's minuscule in the great picture of everything.

Now it doesn't take into consideration where each and every landfill is located nor each ones effect on the local environment, but it is telling. 
 
edit:

Zorgon and I had a plan to design and market a garbage recycling plant. We drew up a rough sketch on my visit back in 2015 to Casa Zorgon.
But life got in the way of either of us doing much with it.
I still have the sketch that Zorgon drew somewhere. Maybe I'll scan it and post it....(just some history)(Ron always said we could make a lot of money if we got a patent.)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on August 15, 2019, 01:55:35 pm


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Maybe I'll scan it and post it....(just some history)(Ron always said we could make a lot of money if we got a patent.)

well hell sarge patent it before you post the damn thing  ::)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on August 15, 2019, 02:40:04 pm

well hell sarge patent it before you post the damn thing  ::)

Well it was Ron's baby and maybe I will in his honor.... ;D
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on August 15, 2019, 04:14:24 pm
I saw a show on tv sometime ago, one of those documentaries about landfills...
Everyone cries about garbage and the waste and the harm it does to the environment. How the US is a great polluter of the environment.

Well researchers took every landfill in the US in mileage and put them all together in a computer estimate.
Do you know how much space every landfill in the US takes up? 35 Sq. Miles!...That's it. It's minuscule in the great picture of everything.

Now it doesn't take into consideration where each and every landfill is located nor each ones effect on the local environment, but it is telling. 
what it doesn't take into consideration is the barge loads of garbage that come out of the NE, new Jersey, new york, that is constantly dumped at sea and has been for decades...
 
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Zorgon and I had a plan to design and market a garbage recycling plant. We drew up a rough sketch on my visit back in 2015 to Casa Zorgon.
But life got in the way of either of us doing much with it.
I still have the sketch that Zorgon drew somewhere. Maybe I'll scan it and post it....(just some history)(Ron always said we could make a lot of money if we got a patent.)

Post it, Sarge; My partner and I were in the process of getting a grant to set up a large MURF{municipal urban recycling facility) had a site picked out, prices on the equipment, and were going full steam ahead until we got a visit from the "group" that actually controls most of the garbage business on the east coast, and they basically told us to go ahead and get it off the ground and running, but also be prepared to either sell it or endure a takeover of the business  8)

I won't call any names but their initials were M-O-B...

so we walked away from it
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on August 16, 2019, 10:19:03 am


i put this article

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-west-is-trading-water-for-cash-the-water-is-running-out/ar-AAFQ183?li=BBnb7Kz

The West Is Trading Water for Cash. The Water Is Running Out
 Luke McGrath  6 hrs ago

here

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=11372.msg149201;topicseen#new


when it fits better here...sorry :-[
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on September 10, 2019, 11:19:46 am


yep it's me the gloom and doom  porn poster..read 'em and weep
president-there-is-no climate-change -it's all -a-chinese hoax is making the changes for global warming all by hisself


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09/10/2019 06:00 am ET
Trump Admin Leading ‘Brazen’ Public Land Liquidation In Alaska, Analysis Finds
A Center for American Progress review shows nearly 30 million acres of federal land in the state are at risk of being developed or transferred.

By Chris D’Angelo


If the Trump administration gets its way, approximately 28.3 million acres of federal land across Alaska could be transferred, sold or opened up to extractive development, according to a new Center for American Progress analysis of the federal government’s land management actions in the state.

The administration’s agenda in Alaska amounts to “one of the most brazen public land liquidation efforts in U.S. history,” the left-leaning think tank writes in its report.

The analysis highlights nine separate actions that put protected public land on the chopping block. Those include President Donald Trump’s well-documented rush to open the 1.5 million-acre Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil and gas drilling and his directive last month to allow logging and other potential development in more than 9 million acres of Tongass National Forest, the largest remaining intact temperate rainforest on the planet.

It also includes several lesser-known initiatives, including revoking a pair of land withdrawals, a move that could ultimately open 1.3 million acres to future development; a land exchange that would allow for a road to be built through the 417,000-acre Izembek National Wildlife Refuge; and an ongoing rewrite of an Obama-era management plan that protected more than 13 million acres of Alaska’s National Petroleum Reserve from oil exploration.

Kate Kelly, CAP’s public lands director and a co-author of the report, said public lands in Alaska are facing a “perfect storm” as the state’s Republican delegation and the Trump administration have partnered to push pro-extraction policies.

“The size and scope is simply staggering,” said Kelly, who also served as a senior adviser at the Interior Department during the Obama administration. “We are talking about nearly 30 million acres, [an area] approximately the size of Georgia, that are at risk of being sold out or transferred. These are lands that belong to all Americans.”

The Interior Department did not respond to HuffPost’s request for comment.

CAP’s analysis comes as the Trump administration faces backlash over the recent appointment of William Perry Pendley, a conservative lawyer who has spent decades campaigning for the sale and transfer of federal lands, as acting director of the federal Bureau of Land Management, an agency of the Interior Department. In that role he now oversees 245 million acres of public land.

Pendley, who once wrote that the “Founding Fathers intended all lands owned by the federal government to be sold,” spent his first few weeks on the job trying to repair his image, as E&E News reported. In an op-ed in The Denver Post, he swung back at what he described as “attacks on my character and misrepresentations of my past.”

Pendley’s appointment added to conservationists’ fears that it is only a matter of time before the Trump administration embraces transferring control of federal lands to states, as the Republican platform calls for. The administration maintains that it “adamantly opposes the wholesale sale or transfer of public lands,” an Interior Department spokesperson recently told The Washington Post.

Yet it continues to slash environmental protections and open up millions of additional acres of land and offshore waters to logging, mining and drilling.

Nowhere is more emblematic of Trump’s exploitation-first mindset for America’s public lands than Alaska, Kelly said. And she sees the administration’s efforts there as “doubly problematic” because of their potential to further drive global climate change.

“This plan would log America’s largest old-growth forest and at the same time lock our nation into fossil fuel emissions that we can’t afford,” she said.

The United Nations warned in a report last month that deforestation and other unsustainable land use has helped drive atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations to their highest levels in human history. And scientists the world over agree that preventing cataclysmic warming requires world governments to rapidly phase out fossil fuels.

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 10, 2019, 01:57:14 pm
The previous post cites CENTER for AMERICAN PROGRESS. Just so you know who these people really are:  ;)

The Center for American Progress is a public policy research and advocacy organization which presents a liberal viewpoint on economic and social issues. It has its headquarters in Washington, D.C.

Board of Directors

Sen. Tom Daschle, Chair (Former Democrate Senator)

Neera Tanden, President  a top aide on Hillary Clinton's first presidential campaign


Stacey Abrams A member of the Democratic Party, she was the party's nominee in the 2018 Georgia gubernatorial election, but lost to Brian Kemp


Steve Daetz a Berkeley lawyer (executive VP of the Sandler Foundation a liberal advocate foundation)


Glenn Hutchins  on Bill Clinton presidential transition team as a Senior Adviser focusing on economic policy

Eric Mindich  a former hedge fund executive who helped raise money for Barack Obama’s White House runs, plans to help former Joe Biden raise cash for the 2020 campaign

Kristin Mugford Kristin Mugford is a former director at Bain Capital, who now teaches courses on finance at Harvard Business School. She is involved in left-of-center politics as a contributor to Democratic politicians and left-of-center interest groups, most prominently serving on the board of directors of the Democratic establishment-aligned think tank the Center for American Progress, where she is also a donor. She has contributed large amounts of money to left-wing candidates and groups, especially in the 2016 election cycle, for which she spent over $177,000.

John Podesta  White House Chief of Staff to President Bill Clinton from October 20, 1998 until January 20, 2001 and as Counselor to President Barack Obama See Wikileaks

Donald Sussman donated $22.8M to the 2016 campaign of Hillary Clinton for President of the United States

Hansjörg Wyss Wyss Foundation (Swiss philanthropist) Wyss supports center-left candidates and organizations. The Federal Commission Records show contributions to left-leaning PAC groups such as the Wild PAC, White Cloud PAC, and League of Conservation Voters Action Fund. Wyss has also supported candidates such as former U.S. Senator Mark Udall (D-Colorado), former U.S. Representative Brian Baird (D-Washington), former Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-N.Y.), Governor Jay Inslee (D-Washington), and former Rep. James Matheson (D-Utah)

Please go to https://www.americanprogress.org/ for more on this group  ::)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on September 10, 2019, 03:41:31 pm

yep that is one group reporting and recording  the rape and pillage of public lands by those currently in power

who benefits?..rich friends of t rump..not you and me

i find it so very interesting that instead of addressing WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW  folks reporting the wrongs are attacked
smoke and mirrors


https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=aCV4Xd3hHuuyggf266qYCg&q=speaking+out+about+what++trump+is+doing+to+public+lands&oq=speaking+out+about+what++trump+is+doing+to+public+lands&gs_l=psy-ab.3...3133.14018..14580...0.0..1.258.6478.17j35j3......0....1..gws-wiz.......0j0i22i30j33i22i29i30j33i299j33i160.EkNH7yx6FEg&ved=0ahUKEwjdtbfGqMfkAhVrmeAKHfa1CqMQ4dUDCAc&uact=5
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 10, 2019, 04:51:59 pm
yep that is one group reporting and recording  the rape and pillage of public lands by those currently in power

Your Opinion

who benefits?..rich friends of t rump..not you and me

Once again Your Opinion

i find it so very interesting that instead of addressing WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW  folks reporting the wrongs are attacked
smoke and mirrors

Folks that have there own agenda, as you obviously do

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=aCV4Xd3hHuuyggf266qYCg&q=speaking+out+about+what++trump+is+doing+to+public+lands&oq=speaking+out+about+what++trump+is+doing+to+public+lands&gs_l=psy-ab.3...3133.14018..14580...0.0..1.258.6478.17j35j3......0....1..gws-wiz.......0j0i22i30j33i22i29i30j33i299j33i160.EkNH7yx6FEg&ved=0ahUKEwjdtbfGqMfkAhVrmeAKHfa1CqMQ4dUDCAc&uact=5


The only thing I pointed out were who the people were in the article. Sorry if the truth of these peoples agenda bothers you.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on September 10, 2019, 04:56:39 pm

geeeze  of course it's my opinion..same as what you posted is yours

but any time i state my opinion  (or post something you guys find not to your liking) it seems to cause you and others here to do the old bait and switch on topics




 oh yeah btw that should be their,  not there.. details do matter  ;)
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Folks that have there own agenda, as you obviously do
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 10, 2019, 05:31:59 pm
geeeze  of course it's my opinion..same as what you posted is yours

but any time i state my opinion  (or post something you guys find not to your liking) it seems to cause you and others here to do the old bait and switch on topics




 oh yeah btw that should be their,  not there.. details do matter  ;) Oh a spelling N.... lolol

and in my first post, in reply to yours, I only stated who the people were and their obvious agendas and what frame of the political spectrum they come from.
I did not agree nor disagree with the post.
I did not bait and switch anything. I'm sorry your sensitive feelings were obviously hurt.
 8)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Irene on September 10, 2019, 05:44:33 pm
With all due respect to both sides of this argument, Teddy had a good idea.

As much as we can, I hope we'll preserve what we can of our wilderness areas. There are places in the public domain that should never be developed.

I visited Mesa Verde NP with my sister in July. I visited Yellowstone in 1997. You cannot put a price on the preservation of such parks and reserves. They are unique.

I think it's imperative we protect the last few things that define us as a country. Protection is our Number 1 export.

We should apply it to some things in our own country.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on September 10, 2019, 07:35:21 pm

ok .. I’ll play
 first ..you do know what assume means..don’t you (ass-u-me)
so don’t assume
what my feelings, motives, ideas or general perception is
..unless I state it  you are assuming
face it  rock you’re retired and bored and enjoy trying to talk smack...see assuming  bwhahahahahahah

second.. if anyone is stupid enough to go on any forum and take stuff personally
well that is just stupid

so .... back on topic
  I do agree with what Irene said..our national lands are precious and need to be protected by us.. which was my original point

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and in my first post, in reply to yours, I only stated who the people were and their obvious agendas and what frame of the political spectrum they come from.
yep switch  of topic
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I did not agree nor disagree with the post...
no you switched topic

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I did not bait and switch anything.

ah yes you did.. the topic was what is happening under this administration not who was telling the story

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I'm sorry your sensitive feelings were obviously hurt

see above about assuming


Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 10, 2019, 08:35:13 pm
The more you post the more you make the point of who you are.

So please keep going. The hole is getting deeper . Lololol

Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on September 10, 2019, 08:59:56 pm

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The more you post the more you make the point of who you are.

yep..very observant of you  .. we all do
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 11, 2019, 03:32:31 am

ah yes you did.. the topic was what is happening under this administration not who was telling the story


So someone is telling a story. It's a good story, but you don't know who the story teller is or their background.
But hey it's a good story, right? Never mind who is telling you info, just believe it because it's a good story, right?

They only thing I posted was WHO was telling the story, I did not comment on the story itself, nor did I ASSUME anything.
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: The Seeker on September 11, 2019, 07:16:43 am
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ah yes you did.. the topic was what is happening under this administration not who was telling the story
What is happening under this administration is no different than the previous ones...

oh, wait, unemployment is the lowest it's been in 50 years, gas prices are lower, jobs are available everywhere...

maybe it is a little different

 ::)
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: space otter on September 11, 2019, 07:54:07 am

you see seeker that is what is wrong here.. the  original post  was on one topic 
 and you  men seem to have a very strong knee jerk reaction to defend the administration on any thing you can think of..

you go totally off topic and waste time and space on it... sadly i find it a reason that this once beautiful and welcoming forum is doomed

i have posted other topics to change the subject and they are totally ignored so you guys can keep coming back and continuing to go off topic

i think the break form here is much needed on my part..i tried already but was pulled back with some things i thought were worth sharing..you have proved to me  that my input isn't wanted because i don't agree with you


..i wish you well  and good luck with keeping this forum going  but i don't think you and sarge will be able to do it
but i am sure  you two will continue this   :(
Title: Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 11, 2019, 11:42:58 am

 and you  men seem to have a very strong knee jerk reaction to defend the administration on any thing you can think of..

you men, lol, I like that
I didn't say one word about this administration


you go totally off topic and waste time and space on it... sadly i find it a reason that this once beautiful and welcoming forum is doomed

I didn't go off topic, I merely researched who was CAP as they are cited over and over again in the llloooonnnggg cut and paste article you posted (talk about wasting time and taking up forum space  ::) )

i have posted other topics to change the subject and they are totally ignored so you guys can keep coming back and continuing to go off topic

i think the break form here is much needed on my part..i tried already but was pulled back with some things i thought were worth sharing..you have proved to me  that my input isn't wanted because i don't agree with you

You have proved to me that MY input is not wanted

..i wish you well  and good luck with keeping this forum going  but i don't think you and sarge will be able to do it
but i am sure  you two will continue this   :(

Best wishes to you and yours...

Rock  8)