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Title: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: zorgon on June 24, 2015, 01:43:19 am
The Lazar Report (Fraud, Fiction and Fantasy at S4)
(A technical white paper analysis of the claims made by Robert Scott Lazar)
Copyright by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015



https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9rY6dthFxwRQXlVOG1haVRwZk0/edit?pli=1e

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RWBazhv1G1c/Ufi2NAy9lQI/AAAAAAAAF10/MCV1DPdGDas/s1600/Luxor-pyramid-area51-plane.jpg)
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: Pimander on June 24, 2015, 03:26:26 am
I think it is possible that Bob was deliberately deceived.  Things like the "Dept of Naval Intelligence" (it should be "The Office of Naval Intelligence") on his tax/payslip could be part of the evidence that Bob was genuinely employed by someone and also taken to where he was told was S4.  The alien files he claims to have read may also have been deliberate deception.

If there is one thing I don't buy it is the insistence on pointing anyone getting close to UFO information in the direction of grey aliens and so on.  The information about these aliens almost always leads back to someone from or linked to military intelligence.
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: astr0144 on June 24, 2015, 05:56:01 am
Can you still click on the link ok.

When I try, it does not open !
I get this come up..

This webpage has a redirect loop

ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS

At one point something came up about a google App. That was not available or something.

I tried again

I get a initial message saying its directing..on one browser

Then on firefox I get...

The page isn't redirecting properly

Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: astr0144 on June 24, 2015, 06:08:06 am
I would hope after seeing the evidence that A51 has shown with the Craft that I think many now believe that it seems to indicate that Bob was at least telling the truth about that.  Hopefully that would make his story as credible as I think we will get.

 I am still not sure if Bob did actually see a ET at the so claimed  S4 or just read the information given to him.

But after seeing that craft.. if it worked like he claimed.. back then it would be very unlikely anyone would doubt it as being extreme advanced technology... and I am sure if he was told it was ET.. he would not question it.

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I think it is possible that Bob was deliberately deceived.  Things like the "Dept of Naval Intelligence" (it should be "The Office of Naval Intelligence") on his tax/payslip could be part of the evidence that Bob was genuinely employed by someone and also taken to where he was told was S4.  The alien files he claims to have read may also have been deliberate deception.



With ref to Greys.. if you don't believe they/there  are  ETs on Earth..Have you ever heard the suggestion that that could be manmade ?

Programmable Generated Lifeforms  !

As you are the Biology expert on PRC  Pim...

I wonder what you make of not just the rumors of ET cross breeds... but also Various Earth Creature cross breeding that maybe we were led to believe not possible..  Or Animal / Insect with Man Cross breed ?.

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If there is one thing I don't buy it is the insistence on pointing anyone getting close to UFO information in the direction of grey aliens and so on.  The information about these aliens almost always leads back to someone from or linked to military intelligence.
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: astr0144 on June 24, 2015, 08:05:51 am
I was able to see the report on a mobile device...but so far it was not easy to view...

its a PDF doc.

It would be better to view on a PC or laptop.

It looks an impressive report at 1st glance.some material that I don't think that I have seen before.

I think Micheal Schratt   has done an impressive job on it.

It will take some studying.

I note there is a ref to our member "Shot in the Dark" ...Dan.


The Lazar Report (Fraud, Fiction and Fantasy at S4)
(A technical white paper analysis of the claims made by Robert Scott Lazar)
Copyright by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015


https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9rY6dthFxwRQXlVOG1haVRwZk0/edit?pli=1e
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: zorgon on June 24, 2015, 10:24:47 am
Google chrome and firefox are at war with adobe   Chrome is about to dump ALL plugins  Adobe Flash, Adobe PDF reader, Silverlight etc  It is a real PAIN right now because many sites like backs and government services use plugins like silverlight to do transactions

I keep getting warnings that "this feature will no longer be supported"

You best download the PDF  and view it with adobe reader or similar free standing program.

I hope these dumb ass broswer techs stop this crap soon.  It effect the website as well because old YT embed codes no longer work, neither do sound files and other features. It is REALLY pissing me off but not much I can do about it

The new html5 iframe works but means I have to go through every webpage to fix it
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: astr0144 on June 24, 2015, 10:33:12 am
I can see that will be Highly frustrating if that is what is happening...it will cause a lot of people chaos and a lot of their time.


As far as I know I do have adobe reader..and thought that when I click the link it would auto open it..

Do you have another suggestion , link where it can be downloaded direct or have I missed something somewhere that indicated it.

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You best download the PDF  and view it with adobe reader or similar free standing program.
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: ArMaP on June 24, 2015, 11:50:34 am
Do you have another suggestion , link where it can be downloaded direct or have I missed something somewhere that indicated it.
See if this (https://doc-14-9c-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/securesc/ha0ro937gcuc7l7deffksulhg5h7mbp1/5pln3m07i84s7429nbmgjbt41v0a36g1/1435168800000/10365956153788920422/*/0B9rY6dthFxwRQXlVOG1haVRwZk0?e=download) works. :)
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: astr0144 on June 24, 2015, 11:58:36 am
Not sure what we would do without you ArMaP.

Not sure how you did it but so far that worked fine.

Many thanks.  :)



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See if this works. :)
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: A51Watcher on June 24, 2015, 08:44:19 pm


His allegation about what Bob said in 2015 contradicting himself is untrue. Listen to it again slowly and get a grip on what he is saying.

It all boils down to what you know about the case or don't.

Which brings up an interesting point, if this guy is so educated about the Lazar case, why couldn't he answer his own simple questions?

"Oh look at these maps here, S4 couldn't possibly be where he said it was."

Anyone paying attention will know - that is what Bob was told it was.

Simple enough right? Who is he to argue with them?


Simplistic objections all the way through that biased skepdick presentation were quite boring and made the intentions quite clear.

And his "evidence in favor" at the end was equally lame.

"Why haven't any of his co- workers come forward to verify his claim?"

Gee that's a hard one to answer... can anybody think of an explanation for that?  ::)

All of the stupid questions in there are equally lame.

As well as pure fabrication.

Bob never said his piece of e-115 got away from him. Never heard the block of cement story?

"How did Bob get ahold of pieces of E-115?"

Really... you don't know that one either?  ::)

Apparently his knowledge of the case is not as extensive as he thought it was, or presented to us it was.

Just another skepdick in sheeps clothing, trying to masquerade as a fair and impartial observer.


   
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: A51Watcher on June 24, 2015, 09:08:56 pm
Here are the questions he should have been concentrating on -


How did Bob know when and where these craft were going to be flown, so that he could take 5 different witnesses on 3 different occasions out there, to witness craft break all known laws of physics?

How is it that private individuals including myself, unconnected to the case were able to venture out to the exact same location on the same nights and again witness craft  break all known laws of physics?

How is it that videos of these craft when examined closely with advanced imaging software reveal very impressive results unlike anything the operators have ever seen before?

How is it that video of military flares and Janet airlines flights produce mundane results while footage of Area 51 craft do not, and do not resemble each other?

Once again the answer to these questions is pretty simple, depending on your knowledge of the case.



 
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: A51Watcher on June 24, 2015, 09:34:32 pm

I also got to see these things close up twice.

Once when one flew over head, and also when I triggered the 'intruder with camera' alert and they all landed on the desert floor in front of me.

I would say they were as close as if I was in the back row of the crowd in 'The Day The Earth Stood Still'.

Both times my impression was they were about 50 ft wide.

A few years ago you could actually see where S4 was on google earth.

There was an image taken during winter when there was snow on the ground. On the edge of papoose lake nine rectangular spots on the snow had melted, all in a row next to each other.

After the guy who discovered this mentioned it on a forum, that image quickly disappeared.

To this day you can not find it anymore on past google earth images or the wayback machine or anything.

Mark my words the day will come when everyone will discover it is all true, every word he said.


Bob's appearance at the 2015 conference must have these guys worried if they are mounting a new offensive against him.

The crowd was obviously on his side.


Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: astr0144 on June 24, 2015, 09:35:37 pm
From an initial read..

I think that I have seen quite a lot of those points raised at one time or another that his report addresses.

Some I agree one could see alternative views on.

Some other points he indicates...He may have made some fair points that make one question...and may need further investigation or explanation.

Even if some of his facts seem to make sense..and the finer details were considered...

There may be other reasons Bob MAY have indicated that he may have not fully told the truth about..I don't suppose we can ever really know.

At the moment I am not swayed in my view based on   several points that he has come up with to discount the story.

It may be that the location was NOT at Papoose Lake..and if Papoose is radiated.. He may have some good points.

I have questioned that for some time.

With ref to the hanger sizes etc... I am not too keen on thinking the dimensions are so critical..

I am not too bothered about the Chairs within the craft..whether there was 2 or 3 or one could have been removed somehow.

Not too concerned about the Hatch details..

I am sure that if there were small Aliens that they would have some means to reach the Hatch, be it steps or some other means.

He may have some points about the size of the crafts inner dimensions and whether a Human could operate  it... But how do we know if Bob was aware who was operating it at the time.

I am sure many could offer suggestions to many of the points that he raises if one decided to consider doing a reply to his report.

The stuff to do with Bobs qualifications, did he work at Las Alamos,  the brothel connections.. I think that I have seen or thought of other suggestions or answers to most of them in the past at some time.

It seems he did have  degrees, in Physics and Electronics... but I am not sure How a Masters degree varies from that... I assume its not like a PHD but just a higher degree.

Would they need to worry about that if they set him up ?

If he was set up I am sure he was chosen for a reason and all the Interviews with Dr Teller etc ,Clearance issues would have been taken care of.

If Bob obtained a sample of E115...maybe from Los Alamos.. How secure was Los Alamos at the time to stop him smuggling a sample out ?

I don't think we know much about the details of operation and material of  the dome Anti Matter reactor that is suggested that the Element 115 is put into ...and what that is made of and how it may relate with the E115 itself to be able to really make any real conclusion as to how it all may actually work.  There could be a LOT more about that part  that has not been explained.


Hopefully A51 can show us some further footage of what he witnessed...if he has actual photos of the 3 craft that he says he witness land at Area 51.
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: zorgon on June 24, 2015, 09:56:09 pm
Well up untill ShotInTheDark linked me to that I had always thought Michael Schratt was on our side on the Area 51 thing

Seems I have fallen off the boat and can't swim fast enough to keep up :(

I posted it figuring the right people would dissect it.   I also so an interview done in Holland by George Knapp  very recent. I forgot to post it last night so will have to do a quick search now

back in a few....
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: A51Watcher on June 24, 2015, 09:58:36 pm
Bob's claim his job and education history was erased.

It has been proven Bob DID work where he said he did, despite official denials from the company.

Score one for proof of job history being erased.

His job there was operating a behemoth multi million dollar particle accelerator.

Are they going to let a janitor with no educational degrees at the controls of this thing?  ::)

Score another one for proof of his educational background.

So occasionally we DO get a peek behind the official curtain of denial.


 


Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: zorgon on June 24, 2015, 09:59:28 pm
That was easy LOL It popped up in my url history

George Knapp Interview - Bob Lazar - Copenhagen - 5 October 2014


[youtube]eB7RSCYtyXI[/youtube]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB7RSCYtyXI
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: zorgon on June 24, 2015, 10:00:52 pm
Bob's claim his job and education history was erased.


George makes that point too  Quite a good interview :D
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: zorgon on June 24, 2015, 10:12:45 pm
Well DANG  George Knapp confirms that Ben Rich did make that statement on ET Technology :D  at 15:00
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: zorgon on June 25, 2015, 09:40:26 pm
Going to post this in THIS thread... I can sort it out later... but there are some issues. 


This is from a conversation with ShotInTheDark on Facebook...


This conversation came about because of postings on John Lear's Facebook page and I want this out here for people to see. The rest of the convo will go into the private room

Bear with me I am posting this as I get it and will fill in the blanks shortly

This is from Satnton Friedman at the 2015 International UFO Congress

(http://static1.squarespace.com/static/54247d50e4b016149c77301f/t/557130dee4b0f64cdbb12114/1433481443446/?format=1500w) (http://static1.squarespace.com/static/54247d50e4b016149c77301f/t/557130dee4b0f64cdbb12114/1433481443446/?format=1500w)

Going to see if I can find the larger report

ETA  Nevermind found one :P

This copy came from HERE

EXTRAORDINARY BELIEFS
AN INVESTIGATIVE FILM SERIES by JEREMY KENYON LOCKYER CORBELL


It’s time to shake things up, press the red button and initiate the launch sequence. Keeping it real just came back in style, and Ufology is due for a proper makeover.

I used to believe that Bob Lazar's story was a fabrication.  Oddly enough I also know that Bob used to think flying saucers designed and built by a non-human intelligences, and being back-engineered by a faction of the United States Military, was a concoction of human imagination.

It’s funny how information can dramatically alter opinion.

Change can happen slowly or it can happen in an instant, but the common denominator is information.  Without NEW information, theories and ideas can’t be tested in either direction.  A considerable body of evidence about Bob Lazar has surfaced in the past 25 years, but somehow, nearly all of it has escaped the notice of Ufology's "cop on the beat.”

I recently read Stanton Friedman’s MUFON journal entry for April 2015 and was deeply disappointed.  I had hoped that after a quarter of a century, the conversation would have elevated from its past status of synthesized analogies regarding Bob Lazar and his testimony, to something more relevant, or at least contemporary.  Instead, the same allegorical and erroneous third-hand arguments that ignore the bulk of evidence in support of Bob’s claims, sadly permeated the discourse. I’m not surprised at sleight-of-hand tactics used to obscure the truth.  I expect the mirage-men treatment from the governing agencies who want to confuse or distort the organized attempt to understand the UFO phenomenon, but I am greatly disillusioned to see one of the idols of Ufology employ the same kind of scurrilous tactics that he has long condemned.

Ufology owes a debt of gratitude to Mr. Friedman. His decades of work have earned our respect, but his long tenure does not give him the right to pull the same kind of close-minded dirty tricks as the "noisy negativists" he has so often criticized.  Sadly, that is exactly what he has done regarding Bob Lazar.  And to a lesser degree, to me.  When Stan makes broad and unsupported allegations such as "Bob Lazar is a con-man and a fraud”, he should back it up with direct and conclusive evidence.  It’s one thing to declare that you don't believe someone. It is quite another to attack a man’s character in the most bitter and personal terms.

Stan continues to act as judge, jury and executioner regarding all things Lazar.  Yet he has never met Lazar.  And now we know, after his own admission at the 2015 International UFO Congress, that Stan has, “never even had an in-depth conversation with Lazar.”  For me, that was an important moment.  A revealing moment.  It underscores the sad but relevant fact that Stan is relying on the deceptive practices that once served Phil Klass so well, dismissing a case and denigrating an individual based on Stan's own perception of his status as Ufology's ultimate authority. 

http://www.extraordinarybeliefs.com/news/2015/5/29/corbell-public-response-about-bob-lazar

Now if you recall  JEREMY CORBELL is the fellow making that movie with John that never seems to get finished "Immacualt Deception"  He is also posting AS John on Facebook  promoting the movie and the C2C show

I noticed that when he posts as himself, he puts HIMSELF in front of John... Now what kind of a Journalist does that?

Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell
3 hrs ·
 ~ It's official!!! The cat is out of the bag. Check out Coast to Coast this Sunday with Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell and John Lear hosted by George Knapp. We will be talking about all things LAZAR, UFO, ALIEN, NANOTECH... and SOOOOOOOO much more. There will be some revelations, some new information, and LOTS of new film work by Corbell available exclusively for the Coast to Coast AM audience. Tune in!

This was the post he made using John's account..

John Lear
2 hrs ·
 ~ The rumor is true. I will be on Coast this Sunday with Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell and hosted by George Knapp. Buckle up.

John did tell Sgt and me that Jeremy was posting as him. There is more but I will be posting that concern in John's private den. I need to go over to see John tomorrow, but it's not easy for me either  especially when it's 110F oit there.


Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: astr0144 on June 25, 2015, 10:14:58 pm
It seemed an interesting Interview with George Knapp.

After observing and trying to think about certain things..If the story is true...It may  still be a mystery as to was Bob set up and why ! Was it to get attention or did things happen that they did not expect or want to happen.

Its one of those situations that one can see various possibilities but cannot draw a conclusion.

Overall I thought that he presented it very well.

I have not watched that many George Knapp videos in the past in relevant detail to compare as yet. So I wonder if maybe he discussed some more in depth or new material maybe not covered in such detail in other presentations.

I am not sure if the main presentation that he did at the Exopolitics Denmark event has been posted.

if not here is a link to it.


George Knapp - Area 51, Flying Saucers and Bob Lazar - Copenhagen 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1viG6PRjiw

Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: ShotInTheDark on June 27, 2015, 04:34:37 pm
I'm back everyone  8) Feel free to ask me anything you would like before I begin to post. I'm not here to get in a heated argument I want to go through this in a constructive/productive manner no name calling anything like that.

I co-authored the paper Schratt wrote of course he did all the drawings we took a number of months talking back and fourth at night on our free time. Michaels responsible for much more info on here then myself.

He obtained all of the late John Andrews files from John Andrews widow and there is some incredible information in these files what is in "The Lazar Report" is nothing. There's one paper that I'm trying to get Michael to release to me as we speak but he's out of town and it will stir this whole story up believe me.  8)  ;)
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: astr0144 on June 27, 2015, 04:49:03 pm
Nice to see you return Dan.

Not sure what to make of the report.

I have seen some of the points made before to some degree... and considered some opposing possibilities.

But if you have more info... that you suggest still suggest that the report is likely valid...

Then hopefully some of the members can comment further and we can observe your replies.

I know Bobs recently returned after his event with George Knapp at the UFO conference..

Did you attend it ?
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: ShotInTheDark on June 27, 2015, 05:09:15 pm
Hey Pete, great to talk with you again last year was a bad year as you know for me on a personal level this years bad as well my eldest brothers terminal right now so it starts all over again.

Didn't attend but saw the whole video it was up for free for one week then OpenMinds and started charging $5.99 . Now as far as the report it was 100% authored b y Michael this is the original there are 10 additional pages and corrections made.

Unfortunately I don't have that one I have to get ahold of Michael to get the latest and there are some mistakes I don't need the paper to present my case I use Bobs own videotaped testimony and transcripts for what I believe is the truth.

Now with that said I'm not saying Bob Lazar is a liar he could possibly been mind controlled who knows... Not to sound arrogant I don't need to read to tell what I know as fact on this cased or use Lazars own words to at least prove he has lied.

Im going to make series of posts that pertain to Knapps speech in Copenhagen and going the whole way back to Lazar at "The Little Ale Inn" in 1994. This story has changed and some o0f what Bob says is a direct contradiction of what he is saying at the time and I can prove this using abstract logic.
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: astr0144 on June 27, 2015, 05:32:14 pm
Very sorry to read about your brother. I know one family crisis can lead to others suffering. I wish you all best and hope you can all overcome and cope with it.

We all get times when bad things just happen.

Having something to take ones mind of it is sometimes what one needs to break away for a while.

With regards to Bobs recent UFO Conference Interview.. it was good to see him return. and of interest to see if his stories may vary.

After 25 yrs though.. I think it is likely to have altered in some ways...and it may be hard to hold him to some changes in his scripts.

But at the same times interesting to compare.

I hope that others can join in and comment and ask you questions. I am not so sure that many members still follow the Bob Lazar story with the same passion that some may have done some years ago.

Over the last year or so.. Some things that I have come across have strengthened my beliefs in some of his general story. but somethings have arised that have created some further considerations.

Hope that it is a interesting topic.
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: ShotInTheDark on June 27, 2015, 06:40:49 pm
I got in to a whole new area of science that could and does prove the existence of future and past humans has to do with Quantum Entanglement and to grasp some of these concepts take a lot of time and mathematics to say the very least.

I think that some of the ET events are actually future human. You know in  disinformation there's always small bits of truth I think Burisch new the truth about future humans but described them as JRods so did William Uhouse. Thing is Future humans are more like Nordics almost perfect looking just as people are trying to keep from aging.

I'm here to talk about a number of things not Lazar his stories a great one whether true or not.
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: astr0144 on June 27, 2015, 08:50:03 pm
You suggest that you are becoming a Scientist now, if you are into Quantum stuff and applying Mathematics... :-\  ???

seems like you may be into some deep stuff...

Cosmo and a few others may be interested in that I would think.

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I got in to a whole new area of science that could and does prove the existence of future and past humans has to do with Quantum Entanglement and to grasp some of these concepts take a lot of time and mathematics to say the very least.


I have always wondered about time travelers.

Certainly a very interesting topic and theory.It may explain a lot.

I wonder if anything and everything can somehow be connected in what we think as in our universe.
As if its possible to travel what we think as large distances almost instant.. or travel into what we see as future time space or back into time space.

Maybe Time does not really exist.

But I wonder do these future humans travel in what we think are UFO craft...or do you think that they do not need craft to travel and say for eg  they can materialize ? maybe like in Star Trek ?

Or are they like what I think is the term ... interdimensional travelers. rather than traveling from far away galaxies.

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I think that some of the ET events are actually future human. You know in  disinformation there's always small bits of truth I think Burisch new the truth about future humans but described them as JRods so did William Uhouse. Thing is Future humans are more like Nordics almost perfect looking just as people are trying to keep from aging.
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: astr0144 on August 18, 2015, 06:21:46 pm
Hi Dan,

Just noticed you online first time since your previous post that you made  back in late June.

Just wondered if you get the time if you may make some posts on what you mentioned in your prior visit.

Also since your last visit there has been a few other thread posts made in the UFO section on Bob Lazar that may be of interest with ref to Bobs interview at the UFO conference earlier this year.

Special Q & A with Bob Lazar hosted by George Knapp 2015

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=8495.0

2 year gap between Trinity and 1947 flap now closed

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=8581.0

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I got in to a whole new area of science that could and does prove the existence of future and past humans has to do with Quantum Entanglement and to grasp some of these concepts take a lot of time and mathematics to say the very least.
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: ShotInTheDark on August 18, 2015, 11:56:05 pm
The only involvement I had in "The Lazar Report" was Bobs schooling or lack their of. Michael did all of this on his own he did the drawings everything. I can try to help with what you are looking for but again I didn't write the paper.
So what do you want to know exactly what page are you referring to?? I could also ask Schratt any questions you would like answered I personally would had written the paper completely different. I don't argue about Lazar or care about his case much anymore. Michael contacted me and asked me to help him in a few areas which was Lazars schooling.
Michael has papers that are beyond interesting but for now he wont go public with them they are from the late John Andrews of Testors his widow gave Michael all of John Andrews material. There a file a for thick about lazar many latters from many different individuals involved and one is John Lear I can describe Lears letter head perfectly form the early 90s. Michael had claimed he would make these papers public but I don't think he wants to upset of offend a certain person and I kind of understand. To me the truth is the truth and it needs to be exposed no matter what and whose feelings may be hurt.....
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: ShotInTheDark on August 19, 2015, 12:19:47 am
You suggest that you are becoming a Scientist now, if you are into Quantum stuff and applying Mathematics... :-\  ???

seems like you may be into some deep stuff...

Cosmo and a few others may be interested in that I would think.


I have always wondered about time travelers.

Certainly a very interesting topic and theory.It may explain a lot.

I wonder if anything and everything can somehow be connected in what we think as in our universe.
As if its possible to travel what we think as large distances almost instant.. or travel into what we see as future time space or back into time space.

Maybe Time does not really exist.

But I wonder do these future humans travel in what we think are UFO craft...or do you think that they do not need craft to travel and say for eg  they can materialize ? maybe like in Star Trek ?

Or are they like what I think is the term ... interdimensional travelers. rather than traveling from far away galaxies.
In no way am I a scientist. In my spare time I have got into the study of Quantum Entanglement with probably one of the smartest men on the planet, Warren York he's on Facebook and will share his theories with anyone. My whole outlook on what would be real UFOs has changed they have to all be Time Machines its impossible to travel at the speed of light for thousands of years to get to another star system I think that's a ruse.

If one can grasp the theory of entanglement then one can grasp Past Present/The Now and Future. Its possible that who we are being visited by are future humans. I realize that sounds absurd but this may answer a number of paranormal phenomenon such as BigFoot ,Ghosts UFOs with humanoids that look perfect after all humans strive for physical perfection turn back the hands of time today plastic surgery is a booming business and pills that allegedly turn back the hands of time etc.. reason I mention the look of perfection we here about all of these humanoid type ETs like Nordics they are always perfect looking and are built very well I just find it hard to believe that all these ETs are human like BiPedal walking on 2 feet.

Now imagine if you will that the past present and future overlap each other at a point and there is a way to tap into that point?? If their is like Project Looking Glass we could easily gain technology from the future and at the same time tap into energy sources from the past this becomes very hard to understand. I could post some of Warren Yorks papers on here he's brilliant I have spent many hours talking to him on OOvOO.

I'm willing to talk somewhat about Lazar but I'm not here for any arguments at all. You had mentioned the Q&A with Knapp the link is broken I have seen the whole video and I have some questions but its impossible to talk to Lazar himself to get answers. But there are some discrepancies for sure if we can kleep everything professional and not argue I can point out the largest problem.

I hope all is well Pete and thanks for your thoughts on my brother he passed away last month.

Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: astr0144 on August 19, 2015, 08:11:48 am
First, I am very sorry to read about the passing of your Brother after the prior issues that you have faced. This is when Life seems at its cruelest and incredibly hard to deal with:(  I will contact you further on this sad news.

I was not trying to suggest /encourage that you made further replies to debunking Bob Lazar maybe with ref to the Michael Schatt report. But more in a prior post that you made indicted below.
(Im going to make series of posts that pertain to Knapps speech in Copenhagen and so on)


I don't know why I said that I indicated that  that you were now a Scientist...It was a very poor description on my behalf.. and if It was not wrote for all to see id swear almost that I would not have wrote it that way.
(That not to indicate that I  think that you do not have a good science related background or understanding) Its just that as far as I recall your background is more in Electrical Engineering.. and that you did  not study to become an official Scientist in whatever particular related field.


What you refer to however seems certainly interesting and I suspect could be something that the major Scientists at the likes of Los Alamos and Area 51 could research into.

What you have wrote could have some possibilities.
and that would certainly be quite mind blowing if it proved correct.

I have always wondered about the likes of the "Philadelphia Experiment "that may be along the lines of what Warren York may be researching.

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In no way am I a scientist. In my spare time I have got into the study of Quantum Entanglement with probably one of the smartest men on the planet, Warren York

Shot in the dark.
Reply #22 on: June 27, 2015, 05:09:15 PM »
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Unfortunately I don't have that one I have to get ahold of Michael to get the latest and there are some mistakes I don't need the paper to present my case I use Bobs own videotaped testimony and transcripts for what I believe is the truth.

Now with that said I'm not saying Bob Lazar is a liar he could possibly been mind controlled who knows... Not to sound arrogant I don't need to read to tell what I know as fact on this cased or use Lazars own words to at least prove he has lied.

Im going to make series of posts that pertain to Knapps speech in Copenhagen and going the whole way back to Lazar at "The Little Ale Inn" in 1994. This story has changed and some o0f what Bob says is a direct contradiction of what he is saying at the time and I can prove this using abstract logic.
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: bigpappy51 on January 06, 2019, 02:01:20 pm
Bob's claim his job and education history was erased.

It has been proven Bob DID work where he said he did, despite official denials from the company.

Score one for proof of job history being erased.

His job there was operating a behemoth multi million dollar particle accelerator.

Are they going to let a janitor with no educational degrees at the controls of this thing?  ::)

Score another one for proof of his educational background.

So occasionally we DO get a peek behind the official curtain of denial.


 
All Bob Lazar has to do is get on faceBook and find his classmates from CalTech and MIT. I had no problems finding his graduation class and there 2016 reunion with ease.

Why doesn't Lazar do this because his education credentials are false a far as MIT and CalTech more to come about MIT hopefully this week. I think Bob rebuilt Alpha Probes for Los Alamos thru Kirk Mayer nothing more. If he was such a brilliant physicist hy did he quit Los Alamos to become a photo processor in Vegas among with another profession i wont say on here. Why leve Los Alamos ??

There is no doubt that if he worked in the facility it was through Kirk Mayer here's a job clipping from Kirk Meyer same time frame read very carefully the first job is an Electronics Technician.

(https://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x471/bigpappy51/KMLAZAR_zpsmikbta3l.jpg)

And as far as Michael Schratt goes he doesn't believe Lazar at all after Corbells movie it became worse he has some documents that are beyond interesting that will be posted one day that are from John Andrews.

BigPappy51
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: bigpappy51 on January 06, 2019, 02:09:08 pm
The dangers of Papoose Dry Lake bed the alleged home of S-4 The following was written and researched by Peter Merlin he talks about the differences in amounts of Plutonium at Groom Lake and Papoose Lake. Papoose ha never been cleaned up there were plans to have Papoose cleaned up by 1992 it never took place.

Area 13 This map shows the location of the Project 57 site in Area 13 and its relation to Area 51. The groom lake airbase is shown much as it appears today. The first challenge of Project 57 was to select a test site. A lengthy discussion at the first project meeting focused on a choice between "Papoose Lake with adjoining valleys and the Groom Lake Valley lying due north of it," both outside the Nevada Test Site. Both sites were considered equal from an operational viewpoint, but the decision was ultimately based on soil contamination levels from previous testing. Samples taken by K. H. Larson of the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA) indicated that "in the first inch of cover, maximum plutonium backgrounds differed by a factor of 60." Soil in the Groom Lake area contained a maximum of 0.5-micrograms of plutonium per- square-meter versus 30-micrograms per-square-meter around Papoose Lake. After reviewing these results, according to the minutes of the first meeting, "the choice of Groom Lake Valley went uncontested." The Project 57 test site was added to the NTS as Area 13, an approximately 10-by-16-mile block of land abutting the northeast boundary of the Test Site, and partially overlapping the Watertown facility. The overlap area was not considered part of Area 13. Ground Zero for the shot was only five miles northwest of Groom Lake and seven miles from the main cantonment area of the airbase. Personnel approaching the site from the NTS would drive over Groom Pass from Yucca Flat, then head north on Valley Road for about eight miles to reach the turnoff for Ground Zero. A formerly secret AEC report dated 14 March 1957 described the new test area, stating that it, "is not contaminated to a degree that would effect the experiment, and, when contaminated, will not interfere with the conduct of the PLUMBBOB nuclear tests which are scheduled to begin in May 1957. The Armed Forces Special Weapons Project has obtained approval for the use of the land for the test." An appendix to the report contained a letter to Brigadier General Alfred D. Starbird from Maj. Gen. Alvin R. Luedecke, USAF, Chief of the AFSWP, further explained that "entry into the
31. area has also been approved and has been coordinated with the agency which has been using the Range." The XW-25 warhead was flown to the airstrip at Yucca Flat, then trucked to Watertown. It was stored in Building 10 prior to being moved to Area 13 for final placement. The Project 57 shot was originally scheduled for early April, but was pushed back several times. Personnel at Watertown were undoubtedly evacuated before the shot in case of unfavorable winds that could spread plutonium over the airbase, or an unexpected nuclear yield. Evacuation must have been terribly inconvenient to flight test and training operations at Watertown. According to declassified documents, most of the delays were due to unfavorable weather conditions. Finally, on the morning of 24 April, the signal was sent to the detonator, and the warhead's high explosive charge destroyed the weapon. Although there had been no obvious atomic explosion, a three-man team in protective clothing was dispatched to determine whether or not any beta or gamma radiation hazard existed from a partial nuclear yield. There was none, but all personnel entering the area were required to wear full protective suits and respirators to shield themselves from alpha radiation emitted by plutonium. Plutonium hazards This Russian satellite image shows Area 51 and Area 13. Groom Lake is about three miles long from north to south. Ground Zero for the Project 57 plutonium dispersal test was located five miles northwest of the edge of Groom Lake. Several isotopes of plutonium (Pu) are typically found at safety experiment sites: Pu-238 (with a half-life of 89 years), Pu-239 (24,300 years), Pu-240 (6,600 years), and Pu-241 (14 years). Pu-239 is the most abundant. The decay of Pu-241 produces an americium isotope, Am-241, which emits gamma rays and has a half-life of 432 years. Radiation Safety (Rad-Safe) technicians measure gamma emissions from Am-241 with a device called a FIDLER (Field Instrument for the Determination of Low-Energy Radiation). Am-241 activity in contaminated soil provides a reasonable indication of Pu-239/240 levels. Plutonium emits alpha particles, the weakest form of radiation. A sheet of paper is sufficient shielding against alpha radiation. Although alpha particles are highly energetic, they are not

Breathing in plutonium on Papoose Dry lake is more then likely what killed Jerry Freeman . After all he spent 2 days and nights there going over every inch of the dry Lake bed and hillsides and found an Ox shoe  in search of the lost 49ers in the 90s. There i an entire roll of film floating around with nothing but photos of Papoose Lake how amazing some of these photos are.

S-4 should be right behind Jerrys head I see nothing and I have looked very hard not many seem to care this is evidence of no Base no hangers no security no vehicles nothing
(https://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x471/bigpappy51/JerryFreemanPapooseLake_zpsvcwlajox.png)
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: A51Watcher on January 09, 2019, 12:42:08 pm
The dangers of Papoose Dry Lake bed the alleged home of S-4 The following was written and researched by Peter Merlin he talks about the differences in amounts of Plutonium at Groom Lake and Papoose Lake. Papoose ha never been cleaned up there were plans to have Papoose cleaned up by 1992 it never took place.

Area 13 This map shows the location of the Project 57 site in Area 13 and its relation to Area 51. The groom lake airbase is shown much as it appears today. The first challenge of Project 57 was to select a test site. A lengthy discussion at the first project meeting focused on a choice between "Papoose Lake with adjoining valleys and the Groom Lake Valley lying due north of it," both outside the Nevada Test Site. Both sites were considered equal from an operational viewpoint, but the decision was ultimately based on soil contamination levels from previous testing. Samples taken by K. H. Larson of the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA) indicated that "in the first inch of cover, maximum plutonium backgrounds differed by a factor of 60." Soil in the Groom Lake area contained a maximum of 0.5-micrograms of plutonium per- square-meter versus 30-micrograms per-square-meter around Papoose Lake. After reviewing these results, according to the minutes of the first meeting, "the choice of Groom Lake Valley went uncontested." The Project 57 test site was added to the NTS as Area 13, an approximately 10-by-16-mile block of land abutting the northeast boundary of the Test Site, and partially overlapping the Watertown facility. The overlap area was not considered part of Area 13. Ground Zero for the shot was only five miles northwest of Groom Lake and seven miles from the main cantonment area of the airbase. Personnel approaching the site from the NTS would drive over Groom Pass from Yucca Flat, then head north on Valley Road for about eight miles to reach the turnoff for Ground Zero. A formerly secret AEC report dated 14 March 1957 described the new test area, stating that it, "is not contaminated to a degree that would effect the experiment, and, when contaminated, will not interfere with the conduct of the PLUMBBOB nuclear tests which are scheduled to begin in May 1957. The Armed Forces Special Weapons Project has obtained approval for the use of the land for the test." An appendix to the report contained a letter to Brigadier General Alfred D. Starbird from Maj. Gen. Alvin R. Luedecke, USAF, Chief of the AFSWP, further explained that "entry into the
31. area has also been approved and has been coordinated with the agency which has been using the Range." The XW-25 warhead was flown to the airstrip at Yucca Flat, then trucked to Watertown. It was stored in Building 10 prior to being moved to Area 13 for final placement. The Project 57 shot was originally scheduled for early April, but was pushed back several times. Personnel at Watertown were undoubtedly evacuated before the shot in case of unfavorable winds that could spread plutonium over the airbase, or an unexpected nuclear yield. Evacuation must have been terribly inconvenient to flight test and training operations at Watertown. According to declassified documents, most of the delays were due to unfavorable weather conditions. Finally, on the morning of 24 April, the signal was sent to the detonator, and the warhead's high explosive charge destroyed the weapon. Although there had been no obvious atomic explosion, a three-man team in protective clothing was dispatched to determine whether or not any beta or gamma radiation hazard existed from a partial nuclear yield. There was none, but all personnel entering the area were required to wear full protective suits and respirators to shield themselves from alpha radiation emitted by plutonium. Plutonium hazards This Russian satellite image shows Area 51 and Area 13. Groom Lake is about three miles long from north to south. Ground Zero for the Project 57 plutonium dispersal test was located five miles northwest of the edge of Groom Lake. Several isotopes of plutonium (Pu) are typically found at safety experiment sites: Pu-238 (with a half-life of 89 years), Pu-239 (24,300 years), Pu-240 (6,600 years), and Pu-241 (14 years). Pu-239 is the most abundant. The decay of Pu-241 produces an americium isotope, Am-241, which emits gamma rays and has a half-life of 432 years. Radiation Safety (Rad-Safe) technicians measure gamma emissions from Am-241 with a device called a FIDLER (Field Instrument for the Determination of Low-Energy Radiation). Am-241 activity in contaminated soil provides a reasonable indication of Pu-239/240 levels. Plutonium emits alpha particles, the weakest form of radiation. A sheet of paper is sufficient shielding against alpha radiation. Although alpha particles are highly energetic, they are not

Breathing in plutonium on Papoose Dry lake is more then likely what killed Jerry Freeman . After all he spent 2 days and nights there going over every inch of the dry Lake bed and hillsides and found an Ox shoe  in search of the lost 49ers in the 90s. There i an entire roll of film floating around with nothing but photos of Papoose Lake how amazing some of these photos are.

S-4 should be right behind Jerrys head I see nothing and I have looked very hard not many seem to care this is evidence of no Base no hangers no security no vehicles nothing
(https://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x471/bigpappy51/JerryFreemanPapooseLake_zpsvcwlajox.png)

Since you are now aware of what I saw at Area 51, you must realize that the Michael Schratt report is meaningless to me. Or anybody else's 'report' for that matter.

For every question he raises, you have to realize there is always an alternative answer.

I have personally seen these craft that defy all laws of physics, as you have seen.

So what use would any of these 'reports' be to me? I am already WAY ahead of the questions these guys are trying to answer. I already KNOW the answer.

Bob Lazar was telling the truth. I have seen it with my own eyes.



Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: astr0144 on January 09, 2019, 01:47:37 pm
I have a fair bit to catch up on...  but

I seen one of the UFO type documentaries... that I cannot recall the name of it at the moment... that showed someone at what was described as Plutonium Alley or something similar... that If I recall had either Joerg or Peter Merlin or someone from a similar type of group...that was some vantage point around Area 51 that the public could visit if they new were it was located..

They did suggest there were still plutonium readings being detected in that area.

so just how cantaminated it really is even still on the outer bounds surrounding Area 51 seems still hard to say.. even though I know we tried to research more into it some time ago...

BUT  why would they risk going to that area if they still detect plutonium radiation readings...

Ok the readings wont be anywhere near as high as some years ago.. during the nuke tests etc... but they seem to acknowledge its still a danger..

and this is not inside Area 51 or at Papoose Lake... and is classed as public land.


Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: bigpappy51 on January 15, 2019, 11:49:30 am
Since you are now aware of what I saw at Area 51, you must realize that the Michael Schratt report is meaningless to me. Or anybody else's 'report' for that matter.

For every question he raises, you have to realize there is always an alternative answer.

I have personally seen these craft that defy all laws of physics, as you have seen.

So what use would any of these 'reports' be to me? I am already WAY ahead of the questions these guys are trying to answer. I already KNOW the answer.

Bob Lazar was telling the truth. I have seen it with my own eyes.

I know you and a number of others who seen craft out there that allegedly defy physics as el think physics is today. But certainly breakthroughs in science, propulsion, gravity manipulation, have been made long ago. With that said I would like to ask you how do you know beyond any doubt that the craft pictured below known as The Sport Model is the exact craft you had seen ?

(https://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x471/bigpappy51/ice_screenshot_20190115-133800_zpsu5dycgbl.png)

So what i'm saying here is you cant say with absolute certainty that what you saw as the same exact craft Bob Lazar spoke of The port Model I see a ball of light bouncing around e cant be sure its an actual physical object could be a project blue beam type of projection is my point. Going by Bobs statements there is no way possible that a man was inside this cramped area flying a craft around doing these maneuvers in a craft that didn't as much as have a switch or wire in the craft.

The Wave Guides as Bob calls them would have to be it total control to make the maneuvers that craft made and what a gamble doing it right there around all those mountains?

A modern day Drone show which can be widely seen online sometimes they will use 100 drones at a time would had looked completely alien 35  or 30 years ago as well as they seem to look today.

So I completely disagree that investigating Bobs claims doesn't matter we have been told over and over now that his so called degrees didn't matter well certainly they did to be a Senior Staff physicist on this project absolutely they mattered how else would he had been qualified to be at that location ? Ad according to Bobs own transcripts he spent a total of 6 days at S4 a place that all evidence that we can see that the installation does not exist at Papoose.

Am I open to believing that maybe the installation exists at another place sure. Am I open to believing he made the craft look just like The Meier craft I guess but what would the reason be ?? I have one theory but I don't think it matters.

BigPappy51
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: WhatTheHey on January 15, 2019, 12:08:03 pm
Since you are now aware of what I saw at Area 51, you must realize that the Michael Schratt report is meaningless to me.

Howdy Bigpappy51, I too have seen craft at area 51 and I was wondering what you saw? I have been there several times and seen things that are unconventional 3

times.  The most amazing sighting we had (I was not alone) was an amber colored craft.  Bright amber colored light coming from it as it flew a zigzag pattern up and out

of the area.

WhatTheHey
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: bigpappy51 on January 15, 2019, 12:20:19 pm
At about 4:10 of the following video Luis Elizondo on CNN says that "aircraft " seen and scientifically studied are no in the current US Inventory or other govt inventories. So the issue is Lou Elizondo telling the truth ?

https://youtu.be/-2b4qSoMnKE (https://youtu.be/-2b4qSoMnKE)

I would think the first person they looked into was Bob and I have been told he doesn't believe Bobs story . Any comment when it comes to AATIP or Elizondo in specific Area51Watcher ? My feeling is the video they how known as video 3 is not an alien spaceship flying over the ocean known as The Tic Tac craft and Commander David Fravor stated we will never see the HD version of that video.

 My personal belief is we are seeing an Anti Ship missile nothing more thats why its flying so low to the ocean and that is why we will never see the HD version of the video. Why haven't they released the video f multiple Tic Tac craft coming out of the water and flying from sea level to 60,000 feet in a matter of seconds? Just some questions I would be interested in hearing hat people have to say . If there's a thread I could be pointed to would like to have a look.

Anti Ship Missile watch the portion as its over the water:

https://youtu.be/AMowaZ3I90o (https://youtu.be/AMowaZ3I90o)

BigPappy51
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: bigpappy51 on January 15, 2019, 12:30:23 pm

Howdy Bigpappy51, I too have seen craft at area 51 and I was wondering what you saw? I have been there several times and seen things that are unconventional 3

times.  The most amazing sighting we had (I was not alone) was an amber colored craft.  Bright amber colored light coming from it as it flew a zigzag pattern up and out

of the area.

WhatTheHey

I haven't seen anything at Area51 And I have zero doubts that you and others have seen lights zig zagging across the sky the question is was this hardware or a holographic projection ? Is hat you sa the exact craft that Bob shows as The Sport Model that is an identical craft to Billy Meiers so called Beam SHips that have been in his books and videos since the 70s?

There's no proof at all that what you guys had seen was the Sport Model is what my point is At best you guys would had been where Camp Fire Hill filming these craft if they are over papoose or Area51 you are miles away from the craft. I think the Govt has gravity manipulation ben Rich statements alone before his death stated that "We have the technology to take ET home"

The only proof I have ever seen that Bob was at Area51 was when he was outside the borders with Lear and Huff. The radiation contamination of Papoose makes it off limits for anything until its cleaned up and those documents were out years beforee Bobs story came out they  were going to try to have Papoose cleaned up by 1992 and I guess the time and cost was too much.

I have seen videos from Norio Hayakawa that were interesting and others but the video that Huff and Lazar show there's a major problem with the video and I can show what it is and I cant believe others have not picked up on this problem well actually I can. There was a deliberate attempt at deception with the famous video that Huff Lazar and Lear are present.

BigPappy51
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: The Seeker on January 15, 2019, 05:26:54 pm

 I have been there several times...

WTH, don't violate any NDA's, oaths, or clearances,but we would like to hear about your visits to A51 if you can speak of them  8)

Seeker
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: fansongecho on January 16, 2019, 12:04:49 am

Hi BigPappy,  :)

I am almost certain that it isn't a anti-ship missile in any of the 3 videos' released by the DOD -

https://coi.tothestarsacademy.com/2015-go-fast-footage/2018/3/9/2015-go-fast-footage

In the 3rd Video "Go Fast" there isn't evidence of a heat signature from the rear of the object and in the other video's there doesn't appear to be evidence of heat signatures either.

https://coi.tothestarsacademy.com/gimbal
 

https://coi.tothestarsacademy.com/2004-nimitz-flir1-video

In the above video's the F/A 18 Super Hornets are all around 20,000 - 25,000 Feet altitude and I believe performing a CAP (Combat Air Patrol) /  Fleet Protection Mission -

On the videos there is an explanation of the various readouts but they don't describe what the "Slave" mode is on the right hand side - Slave mode indicates the Raytheon ATFLIR Sensor is "slaved" to the Super Hornets very powerful AESA AN/APG-79 RADAR (in the nose) and we hear in one of the video's a WSO (weapon system operators) say "look at the ASA" simply meaning that what ever target the RADAR is tracking that data is automatically furnished to the ATFLIR sensor - reducing the WSO workload - why would they slave the ATFLIR to the main RADAR?.. because the RADAR's Acquisition and tracking range & field of view is greater than the ATFLIR POD Camera and IR sensor -100s of miles verses 50 - 60 miles.

The WSO still controls the FLIR/Electro-Optics on the ATFLIR, as we observe a number of times in the videos, when he changes the Zoom control on the Optical Camera and the white - 2 - black display on the FLIR display.

"SNIP"
The Super Hornet is equipped with a Raytheon AN/APG-79 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radar, which is integrated with the aircraft's AN/ASQ-228 Advanced Targeting Forward Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) targeting pod from Raytheon; the Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS); the Multifunctional Information Distribution System
(MIDS); advanced high capacity computer system; and state-of-the-art cockpit.

Other systems on-board are the Raytheon AN/ALR-67(V)3 digital radar warning receiver (RWR), the BAE Systems/Exelis AN/ALQ-214 Integrated Defensive Countermeasures (IDECM), the BAE Systems AN/ALE-47 countermeasures dispenser, Raytheon AN/ALE-50 towed decoy, and the Rockwell Collins AN/ARC-210 VHF/UHF Airborne Communications System.

More recently, in January 2015, the U.S. Navy approved Lockheed Martin's IRST21 passive long-range sensor system for the F/A-18E/F. IRST21 uses infrared search and track technology to detect and track airborne threats. IRST21 is mounted on the nose section of the center fuel tank.
"SNIP"

 - https://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/atflir

- http://www.fi-aeroweb.com/Defense/F-18-Super-Hornet.html

I dont know what the objects where, but I was curious when the WSO stated that the wind was 120Knots (approx 130mph) in one of the videos..  pretty windy!  :o

Cheers!

Fansongecho  :)

Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: WhatTheHey on January 16, 2019, 11:03:59 am

 :) Let me just say that some of what flies through the skies at this area are clearly not craft that we have conceived.  The test flying of these craft have been

 ongoing for so long, lets hope its not our design.  :o  If it was, its time to scrap it....since it seems we cant fly it worth a dang.  lol Of course it could be there is a reason

for the unusual flight patterns.  Who knows?

   I do not work there, although I could very likely be of some help to them.  lol I'm part alien!  ;) lol  Not!

But I was allowed to play games with the security guys,  ;D like trac-an-tag.  Sort of a hide and seek game with vehicles. It was a bit scary, but they didn't do anything

to me.  They seem to avoid having any direct contact with me even when I'm at the gate.  Yep the front gate!  They flashed there head lights at me when its night.

But they never stopped me for some reason, even when my wife was with me.

   I would consider a holographic projection could be used to make an image in the sky.  However when you can see dust being kicked up and a ground reflection or

illumination.  It makes it harder to consider that its a projection.

  Its such a strange thing the way the military has boggled the information about area 51 and in the proses brought more interest from the very people they sot to

deceive.  Sometimes I wonder if this was done intentionally for some reason.

   Its a fun place to visit but I didn't like staying there.....lol

WhatTheHey
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: A51Watcher on January 16, 2019, 12:29:02 pm


Hey there WhatTheHey,

Don't you just love it when other people try to tell you what you saw? lol

It's the best!  ;D


Thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: astr0144 on January 16, 2019, 01:35:31 pm
Hi WTH..

Can you give some indication  how long ago or some estimates of the dates when you witnessed some of your sightings ?

Just wondering how the trip dates may have varied...

Were some closer to the late 80s early 90s and were any after year 2000 ?


:) Let me just say that some of what flies through the skies at this area are clearly not craft that we have conceived.  The test flying of these craft have been

 ongoing for so long, lets hope its not our design.  :o  If it was, its time to scrap it....since it seems we cant fly it worth a dang.  lol Of course it could be there is a reason

for the unusual flight patterns.  Who knows?

   I do not work there, although I could very likely be of some help to them.  lol I'm part alien!  ;) lol  Not!

But I was allowed to play games with the security guys,  ;D like trac-an-tag.  Sort of a hide and seek game with vehicles. It was a bit scary, but they didn't do anything

to me.  They seem to avoid having any direct contact with me even when I'm at the gate.  Yep the front gate!  They flashed there head lights at me when its night.

But they never stopped me for some reason, even when my wife was with me.

   I would consider a holographic projection could be used to make an image in the sky.  However when you can see dust being kicked up and a ground reflection or

illumination.  It makes it harder to consider that its a projection.

  Its such a strange thing the way the military has boggled the information about area 51 and in the proses brought more interest from the very people they sot to

deceive.  Sometimes I wonder if this was done intentionally for some reason.

   Its a fun place to visit but I didn't like staying there.....lol

WhatTheHey
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: WhatTheHey on January 16, 2019, 04:06:21 pm
      "Just wondering how the trip dates may have varied...   Were some closer to the late 80s early 90s and were any after year 2000 ?"

   Hmmmm........ it was in the mid to late 90s if I remember right...... Started about 94 or 95 to 2000.

WhatTheHey
Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: A51Watcher on February 06, 2019, 07:11:24 pm


So does Michael Schratt have room to be critical of anybody?

What type of info does HE peddle at UFO conferences?

How about the J-rod story from Dan Burisch?

Michael makes a pretty decent living touring the UFO conference circuit pushing the Burisch story -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poOUxR_HW0U


...who allegedly worked in the underground levels of S-4 and communicated  on a regular basis with an living Alien being.

All without ANY evidence or proof or corroboration.

So THIS guy is believable but Bob Lazar is NOT?? Hilarious!  ;D


Michael also loves to show this animation based completely on Bob's information on S-4's location and layout, yet then totally embellishes it with Burisch's story of lower levels and Aliens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaEZMZ1VkuM


Sounds like a Psyop misinformation agent and program to me.


Title: Re: The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015
Post by: astr0144 on February 25, 2019, 01:33:01 pm
In ref to Michael Schratt,

In past posts.. no doubt he has created some very good / interesting material,

but in more recent times, I have seen him take parts in many various UFO TV programs or videos and he has seeemed now often refer to a series of things that I would not had expected him to appear to make suggestions that they were possible or credible when my own thoughts at the time and based on certain things I seem to recall.. where I may had considered them as less than credible especially compared to certain other things that I thought overall may have had more credibility..  it maybe that he seems to have taken differing views on certain things from say 3 to 5 years ago.

Is it because hes now more on the UFO circuit or making more of a better living on it... maybe well be !or probably so.

I dont have time in this post to list what I had observed...nor can I presently recall  most of them or the programs / videos  at the moment..

but if I or others can make ref to certain things I think that  they would be worth noting..