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Title: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Eighthman on June 05, 2017, 08:46:57 am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/06/01/the-u-s-cant-quit-the-paris-climate-agreement-because-it-never-actually-joined/?utm_term=.9575155e110a#comments

So, the US withdrew from the Paris Treaty.....except that it was never ratified and the Constitution is explicit about it.  Mind-boggling that this topic gets heated discussion and headlines without the basics being considered.  Funny too, that it was put forward by a reputed "Constitutional Scholar".
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: The Seeker on June 05, 2017, 09:37:21 am
8thman, that is why it pays to research everything and check the facts  8) They don't...

They have been screaming for impeachment since the day after the election, yet how can the POTUS be impeached when he hasn't taken office yet, and hasn't committed any wrong doing? Seriously?

Perhaps this will help you understand the travesty that is today's MSM  8)

Seeker

Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: ArMaP on June 05, 2017, 02:05:04 pm
I find it strange that the article says that the four-year withdrawal provision was "designed to limit Trump’s ability to exit". How can it be, if it was written before Trump was even a candidate to the US presidency?

Also, that four-year withdrawal provision is not like he says in the article. He says:
"A country party to the deal can withdraw only four years after giving notice of its intent to do so."

That's not true. What the the agreement says is:
"1. At any time after three years from the date on which this Agreement has entered into force for a Party, that Party may withdraw from this Agreement by giving written notification to the Depositary.

2. Any such withdrawal shall take effect upon expiry of one year from the date of receipt by the Depositary of the notification of withdrawal, or on such later date as may be specified in the notification of withdrawal."

So there's a three-year period in which countries cannot even give notice of withdrawing, then there's a one-year period after they have given notice of withdrawing.

It sounds to me like he hasn't a clear case of the Paris agreement not being active for the US, otherwise he would have stated it clearly in two or three sentences.

But I'm sure of one thing, most people do not have the slightest idea of what the Paris agreement says, and many politicians are included in that list.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: The Seeker on June 05, 2017, 04:23:56 pm
But I'm sure of one thing, most people do not have the slightest idea of what the Paris agreement says, and many politicians are included in that list.
Exactly, Armap, they do not have a clue what it says  8) and they are too busy spinning bovine feces that everyone takes as gospel truth for anyone to actually read it, much less understand it...

Seeker
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Eighthman on June 05, 2017, 05:24:28 pm
These perversions of the Constitution are disgusting. Treaties that aren't treaties. Due process that doesn't apply to property.  Attacks committed on nations without Congressional vote.  A second amendment interpretation that can exclude military weapons broadly while ignoring the term 'militia". Corporations that are "people".

Oh, and let's not forget the perversion of the Commerce Clause in which the Federal gov. can ban anyone from growing pot even for their own exclusive use with no sales or barter taking place. That one was from Scalia - the originalist (ha-ha).

And the final perversion? The fact that the Constitution was written in such simple language that a common man could understand it, so as to support it - while courts now freely treat it as esoteric, obscure, almost occult - often divorced from the common man.  And they wonder why opinion polls show little confidence in the Supreme Court.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: ArMaP on June 05, 2017, 05:55:51 pm
And the final perversion? The fact that the Constitution was written in such simple language that a common man could understand it, so as to support it - while courts now freely treat it as esoteric, obscure, almost occult - often divorced from the common man.  And they wonder why opinion polls show little confidence in the Supreme Court.
I think the US constitution needs a rewrite, but...
a) I think most would not let it be changed, even if they don't have any good reason for that;
b) it would be a great opportunity to insert articles that would be bad for most people;
... so I don't see it happening any time soone.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: The Seeker on June 05, 2017, 06:35:06 pm
Woodrow Wilson sold out the entire country when he signed the acts that created the IRS and the Federal Reserve; we haven't had a legal government since then, rather we have the corporation of the United States; but until changes are made to remove those 2 entities and return the majority of the control to the states, where it belongs, we have this mess to deal with...

Seeker
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Irene on June 06, 2017, 11:41:30 am
I think the US constitution needs a rewrite, but...
a) I think most would not let it be changed, even if they don't have any good reason for that;
b) it would be a great opportunity to insert articles that would be bad for most people;
... so I don't see it happening any time soone.

I'm glad you're not American, ArMaP. The Constitution is a sound document as it is. The dysfunction is in how it is interpreted.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: The Seeker on June 06, 2017, 01:32:47 pm
I'm glad you're not American, ArMaP. The Constitution is a sound document as it is. The dysfunction is in how it is interpreted.
The entire federal government needs to be reworked, and go back to following the Constitution instead of thinking it is an anachronism for occasional reference ...

The first step is to take being politically correct and stuff it in the trash can...

John F. Kennedy said "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what can you do for your country"

The Democrats and SJW's need to ponder on that and realize that nothing is free, that someone has to pay for everything...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: ArMaP on June 06, 2017, 01:45:32 pm
The Constitution is a sound document as it is. The dysfunction is in how it is interpreted.
The problem is that the US constitution, by not being updated, turned into an easy target for those that want to circumvent it.

For example, The Seeker wrote:
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Woodrow Wilson sold out the entire country when he signed the acts that created the IRS and the Federal Reserve

That was only possible because the constitution didn't have any provisions that could stop the president from doing that, like in all other situations when presidents or the congress did things that should be unconstitutional but are not because they were considered at the time.

In such a lawyer-controlled country like the US all official texts should be made lawyer-proof, if they are not they are likely to be abused.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: The Seeker on June 06, 2017, 01:50:12 pm
That is true, it could use a revision or two; but the way to do that is by amendments, keeping the original document intact but adding the provisions needed to update and protect it, and us...
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Irene on June 06, 2017, 02:02:36 pm
The problem is that the US constitution, by not being updated, turned into an easy target for those that want to circumvent it.

For example, The Seeker wrote:
That was only possible because the constitution didn't have any provisions that could stop the president from doing that, like in all other situations when presidents or the congress did things that should be unconstitutional but are not because they were considered at the time.

In such a lawyer-controlled country like the US all official texts should be made lawyer-proof, if they are not they are likely to be abused.

ArMaP, have you read the Constitution? It's a necessarily broad document, and timeless.

It is not being objectively interpreted, rather, politically interpreted, which was never the intent of the Founders.

There is now so much bad case law that the Constitution is practically unrecognizable in higher court decisions.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Amaterasu on June 06, 2017, 02:30:13 pm
Of course, the constitution was written for rich white land owners, and, as it is a top-down system, will promote psychopaths who are drawn to that power over Others.  And long ago even that poor piece was vacated and a corporation took over (1871), and the 1913 Fed, etc. just sealed the deal.  Personally, I would rather eliminate the power of the psychopaths on top and solve problems Ethically as they arise, rather than passing "laws" (acts, statutes, bills, codes, edicts, declarations, regulations, mandates, constitutions, rules, etc.) and enFORCING them on Others.

It is deeply indoctrinated in Americans that the constitution is the be-all and end-all of ways We could do things here.  And Many, though They cannot say WHY They are upset, take umbrage when I point out the issues with such a system - especially with money side by side, allowing the bribing, setting up for blackmail, threatening, ruining and killing of politicians who do not do as the money controllers on Our planet want Them to do.

Patriotism is the antithesis of critical thinking, blindly believing, rather than fully grasping what such systems WILL create:  psychopaths in control.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Irene on June 06, 2017, 02:43:14 pm
Of course, the constitution was written for rich white land owners, and, as it is a top-down system, will promote psychopaths who are drawn to that power over Others.  And long ago even that poor piece was vacated and a corporation took over (1871), and the 1913 Fed, etc. just sealed the deal.  Personally, I would rather eliminate the power of the psychopaths on top and solve problems Ethically as they arise, rather than passing "laws" (acts, statutes, bills, codes, edicts, declarations, regulations, mandates, constitutions, rules, etc.) and enFORCING them on Others.

It is deeply indoctrinated in Americans that the constitution is the be-all and end-all of ways We could do things here.  And Many, though They cannot say WHY They are upset, take umbrage when I point out the issues with such a system - especially with money side by side, allowing the bribing, setting up for blackmail, threatening, ruining and killing of politicians who do not do as the money controllers on Our planet want Them to do.

Patriotism is the antithesis of critical thinking, blindly believing, rather than fully grasping what such systems WILL create:  psychopaths in control.

I'm not surprised you are physically ill. Your negativity is absolutely poisonous.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: ArMaP on June 06, 2017, 03:54:43 pm
ArMaP, have you read the Constitution?
Yes.

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It's a necessarily broad document, and timeless.
I know it's a broad document, all constitutions need to be broad, as they are the framework for how a country should work from an administrative point of view, but the problem is that although the basis in which the US constitution was created and the creators' intentions are timeless, the world has changed since it was written, and situations that weren't considered at the time.

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It is not being objectively interpreted, rather, politically interpreted, which was never the intent of the Founders.
Exactly, and that's a result of the way it was written. If it was written more like a legal document (with some definitions, for example) it would be harder for people to "bend" it to their own intentions.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Irene on June 06, 2017, 04:01:24 pm
Yes.
I know it's a broad document, all constitutions need to be broad, as they are the framework for how a country should work from an administrative point of view, but the problem is that although the basis in which the US constitution was created and the creators' intentions are timeless, the world has changed since it was written, and situations that weren't considered at the time.
Exactly, and that's a result of the way it was written. If it was written more like a legal document (with some definitions, for example) it would be harder for people to "bend" it to their own intentions.

There's a reason it's not written in legalese. The Founders intended that it be understood by everyone, not just a chosen few.

It annoys the piss out of me when non-Americans say they think we should mangle our Founding document.

We don't need a rewrite. We need a return to its basic principles. We need less complication, not more.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Eighthman on June 06, 2017, 04:19:06 pm
What the heck is a lawyer proof document when interpretation seems to be a form of psychotic deconstructionism?

You have "Commerce" that involves no commerce.  Corporations that are a "person".  We had legal 'experts' claim the death penalty was unconstitutional when the Bill of Rights mentions a 'capital' offense

 
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Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: ArMaP on June 06, 2017, 04:35:29 pm
There's a reason it's not written in legalese. The Founders intended that it be understood by everyone, not just a chosen few.
I understand that, but as times change, how many of today's people understand (or even know) what it says and the intention behind those words?

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It annoys the piss out of me when non-Americans say they think we should mangle our Founding document.
I'm not suggesting that you mangle it, I am suggesting that it should be updated to avoid being so easily manipulated and circumvented.

Any country's constitution (and all countries, as far as I know, have one, it's not something only the US has, as I have seen some people thinking) is not only a historic document (in all of it's versions, if any), it's a working document that shapes the laws and administration of the country, and, as such, benefits from being updated.

As the US constitution has provisions to be amended, they could make some amendments to help bring it more to a present day document, or, at least, clear some situations.

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We don't need a rewrite. We need a return to its basic principles. We need less complication, not more.
I think that you need at least some clarifications so you can return to its basic principles, as people today are very good at distorting ideas and ignoring the original idea.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: ArMaP on June 06, 2017, 04:41:58 pm
What the heck is a lawyer proof document when interpretation seems to be a form of psychotic deconstructionism?
A document that has clear definitions, so there is no space to interpretations.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: biggles on June 06, 2017, 04:57:23 pm
A document that has clear definitions, so there is no space to interpretations.

I'm sure the US constitution, Bill of Rights was fine when first brought in; but unfortunately it doesn't matter what it says you have no rights and that's that, at least by the psychopathic groups running the country.

We still haven't been successful getting the medicinal marijuana passed for people with chronic illnesses; at least you've got it up there, that's something.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Irene on June 06, 2017, 05:03:42 pm
I understand that, but as times change, how many of today's people understand (or even know) what it says and the intention behind those words?

I'm not suggesting that you mangle it, I am suggesting that it should be updated to avoid being so easily manipulated and circumvented.

Any country's constitution (and all countries, as far as I know, have one, it's not something only the US has, as I have seen some people thinking) is not only a historic document (in all of it's versions, if any), it's a working document that shapes the laws and administration of the country, and, as such, benefits from being updated.

As the US constitution has provisions to be amended, they could make some amendments to help bring it more to a present day document, or, at least, clear some situations.

I think that you need at least some clarifications so you can return to its basic principles, as people today are very good at distorting ideas and ignoring the original idea.

Education.

As I wrote earlier, the document is sound as it is. No "update" is necessary. Citizens need a proper education to understand its history, what it is, and what it means.

It is not designed to address contemporary issues. That is not its purpose.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: ArMaP on June 06, 2017, 05:15:57 pm
Education.
I couldn't agree more, too bad education takes several years to show results.

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It is not designed to address contemporary issues. That is not its purpose.
I also agree, but in that case what do you have for that purpose?
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Irene on June 06, 2017, 05:34:23 pm
I couldn't agree more, too bad education takes several years to show results.
I also agree, but in that case what do you have for that purpose?

Federal, state, and municipal law.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Eighthman on June 06, 2017, 06:10:58 pm
Legal definitions?  What BS!  The whole nation was privileged to watch a lawyer President explain his special meaning of 'is' as referring to the absence of sexual intercourse at the moment of interview, as I best comprehend it.

Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Amaterasu on June 07, 2017, 05:49:37 am
I'm not surprised you are physically ill. Your negativity is absolutely poisonous.

LOL!  I am very positive, dear One.  Always smiling and all.  I am not "negative," but merely accepting facts.  That You thought I was "negative," suggests to Me You don't like the facts and want to put up some barrier to deny them.  And FYI...  I became "ill" at 6 when I was given a polio vax.  So truly, My attitude (whatever it may be) is not a factor here.

Enjoy the day, Irene.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Amaterasu on June 07, 2017, 05:51:23 am
Legal definitions?  What BS!  The whole nation was privileged to watch a lawyer President explain his special meaning of 'is' as referring to the absence of sexual intercourse at the moment of interview, as I best comprehend it.

I don't consent to the legal system - it thwarts Ethics FAR more than serves them.  I consent to the three Laws of Ethics ONLY.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Irene on June 07, 2017, 07:14:11 am
LOL!  I am very positive, dear One.  Always smiling and all.  I am not "negative," but merely accepting facts.  That You thought I was "negative," suggests to Me You don't like the facts and want to put up some barrier to deny them.  And FYI...  I became "ill" at 6 when I was given a polio vax.  So truly, My attitude (whatever it may be) is not a factor here.

Enjoy the day, Irene.

Well, quite honestly, when I read your posts now, all I hear is "psychopath this" and "psychopath that" and my eyes glaze over. That isn't positivity. It's toxicity.

I'm not in denial. I see what our politicians and agencies are up to. I fight it, as an individual, by voting and respectfully contacting those whom I've chosen to represent me.

How are you fighting it? Do you vote? Do you contact your senators and representatives? Most importantly, do your educate yourself on all sides of the issues we are dealing with as a country?
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Amaterasu on June 07, 2017, 01:03:39 pm
Well, quite honestly, when I read your posts now, all I hear is "psychopath this" and "psychopath that" and my eyes glaze over. That isn't positivity. It's toxicity.

I'm not in denial. I see what our politicians and agencies are up to. I fight it, as an individual, by voting and respectfully contacting those whom I've chosen to represent me.

How are you fighting it? Do you vote? Do you contact your senators and representatives? Most importantly, do your educate yourself on all sides of the issues we are dealing with as a country?

LOL!  The fact that money systems and top-down controlmind are the twin towers to psychopaths in power should be a clue that there ARE psychopaths in control on Our planet, whether You want to beLIEve it or not.  Then there's the loathsome vine of the legal system supporting those towers and thwarting Ethics FAR more than serving them.  The whole is stacked against caring, empathetic, compassionate, loving People.



As to what I have been doing?  I devised a system that promotes the CARING Ones to take care of things.  I withdrew My consent from that whole psychopath-driven set of systems, I share awareness of this better way of doing things, I help Others grasp how to withdraw consent without creating controversy.

My whole life has been dedicated to, first, figuring out why things I see do not match what I was told they were; second, defining the root problem; third, developing a solution; fourth, sharing awareness of the solution; and fifth, teaching.
Just saying.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Irene on June 07, 2017, 01:12:41 pm
LOL!  The fact that money systems and top-down controlmind are the twin towers to psychopaths in power should be a clue that there ARE psychopaths in control on Our planet, whether You want to beLIEve it or not.  Then there's the loathsome vine of the legal system supporting those towers and thwarting Ethics FAR more than serving them.  The whole is stacked against caring, empathetic, compassionate, loving People.



As to what I have been doing?  I devised a system that promotes the CARING Ones to take care of things.  I withdrew My consent from that whole psychopath-driven set of systems, I share awareness of this better way of doing things, I help Others grasp how to withdraw consent without creating controversy.

My whole life has been dedicated to, first, figuring out why things I see do not match what I was told they were; second, defining the root problem; third, developing a solution; fourth, sharing awareness of the solution; and fifth, teaching. 
Just saying.

Again, psychopath, psychopath.

I think your issue is you resent success. Most people don't get it for free. You have to work for it.

I worked my a** off in an incredibly difficult and ugly job to get where I am in retirement. I served the public for 30 years and left only due to medical issues, which were a result of my service.

Lastly, I'd appreciate it if you would corral the snark. I can be a jerk  too, but I choose not to. Please practice what you preach.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Amaterasu on June 07, 2017, 01:34:11 pm
Again, psychopath, psychopath.

I think your issue is you resent success. Most people don't get it for free. You have to work for it.

I worked my a** off in an incredibly difficult and ugly job to get where I am in retirement. I served the public for 30 years and left only due to medical issues, which were a result of my service.

Lastly, I'd appreciate it if you would corral the snark. I can be a dick too, but I choose not to. Please practice what you preach.

No snark.  Just laughter.  [shrug]  Just giving My perspective.  And FYI, I worked MY butt off for many years, first in banking and then as a graphic designer, and when I was struggling to make deadlines and work at the pace required, when I was laid off, I applied for disability.  The system denied Me that now for over a decade.  I still applied for work, even though I doubted I could keep up with the demand of any job, My hands being shot as they are.  I did not want to go homeless.  But for over a decade, 100,000+ applications with a number of job offers that were rescinded by nervous People before I even started, many applications for some HELP, I lost everything, am homeless, am destitute, but STILL do My work to solve for the (whatever name You want to call the Ones in control on Our planet who choose behavior that fits the classic definition of a psychopath).

Go ahead and brush off My words because I use one You don't like (however true).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxB7LqiCsg8
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: The Seeker on June 07, 2017, 01:47:16 pm
You are a broken record  8) always the same spiel over and over, has been for years; perhaps you need to look in the mirror and see if any labels you use so lavishly, apply to the view others have of your paradigm.

And this is a reminder to All the members here: your membership here is a privilege, not a right, and those privileges can be revoked.

Seeker
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Irene on June 07, 2017, 01:50:33 pm
It kind of amuses me that you want to educate me about what a psychopath is. By virtue of my employment I have met many, in all flavors and sizes.

I'm sure you know that to be extremely successful you usually have to have a number of psycho-/sociopathic traits.The human animal is a very strange creature, motivated by very strange things, and even the most empathetic can be brutal at times.

You, so clearly, want what the successful have, but all you do is makes excuses for why you are a have-not instead of buckling down and ramming full speed ahead.

Suffering and pain is very much a part of the struggle to be successful, but you have to suffer and endure the pain for the right reasons.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Amaterasu on June 07, 2017, 02:09:50 pm
You are a broken record  8) always the same spiel over and over, has been for years; perhaps you need to look in the mirror and see if any labels you use so lavishly, apply to the view others have of your paradigm.

And this is a reminder to All the members here: your membership here is a privilege, not a right, and those privileges can be revoked.

Seeker

I see.  Well.  I am only trying to wake People up.  "Broken record," or not I CARE about Humanity and taking Us off the path the Ones in control here are leading Us to:  NO freedom, 100% surveillance, being spied upon, 1984/Brave New World, wage slavery, to be servants, slaves, sex toys, and sacrifices for the Ones who lead Us there, with Their scripted psyops Most still beLIEve, Their scripted politics Most still beLIEve, and if such CARING is not something welcome here, just say the word and I will go.  Because I will not waste My time on the willfully blind.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: biggles on June 07, 2017, 02:45:43 pm
You are a broken record  8) always the same spiel over and over, has been for years; perhaps you need to look in the mirror and see if any labels you use so lavishly, apply to the view others have of your paradigm.

And this is a reminder to All the members here: your membership here is a privilege, not a right, and those privileges can be revoked.

Seeker

That's fair enough Seeker, but as forum members I thought members had a right to say what they wanted without fear of judgement.

Just saying............as long as it doesn't get personal.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Amaterasu on June 07, 2017, 03:02:29 pm
It kind of amuses me that you want to educate me about what a psychopath is. By virtue of my employment I have met many, in all flavors and sizes.

I'm sure you know that to be extremely successful you usually have to have a number of psycho-/sociopathic traits.The human animal is a very strange creature, motivated by very strange things, and even the most empathetic can be brutal at times.

You, so clearly, want what the successful have, but all you do is makes excuses for why you are a have-not instead of buckling down and ramming full speed ahead.

Suffering and pain is very much a part of the struggle to be successful, but you have to suffer and endure the pain for the right reasons.

You are so wrong on so many a score.  But whatever.  I want to be successful at getting Humanity out of the hot water We're in.  And dear One, I am ramming full speed ahead on that goal.  It is NOT for Me that I do what I do - though I may benefit in the end - it is for EVERY STARVING CHILD on Our VASTLY abundant planet, stolen from Them, withheld from Them.  It is for every One who works crappy hours for crappy pay.  You think We ALL can be successful "if We just try?"  There are MANY, MANY People who have tried Their damnedest - Myself included - to "be successful" in this rigged, stacked game.  You say Yourself that it takes those behaviors - whether chosen by primary psychopaths (genetic) or secondary psychopaths (mind controlled, severely abused, indoctrinated into this system that forces competition on a cooperative species by nature through artificial scarcity) - to be "successful."

And the more You have those traits, the more likely You are to succeed.  Because money/power over Others promotes those sorts.  As I have said.  Sorry for the broken record.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: biggles on June 07, 2017, 05:13:36 pm
Besides all that Amy, one hopes that we are not taking pot shots at other members of a personal nature.

I think we're above that.  If I do it, the mods have full right to kick my butt big time and I mean that. xo

I'm not replying anymore to this thread, I've had my say, you can have yours and that's fair enough, but I wont be commenting again.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Amaterasu on June 07, 2017, 06:38:38 pm
Besides all that Amy, one hopes that we are not taking pot shots at other members of a personal nature.

I think we're above that.  If I do it, the mods have full right to kick my butt big time and I mean that. xo

I'm not replying anymore to this thread, I've had my say, you can have yours and that's fair enough, but I wont be commenting again.

Humbly I admit I returned a bit of fire - though more of a laugh than anything else.  I did not say such things as:

"I'm not surprised you are physically ill. Your negativity is absolutely poisonous."

"That isn't positivity. It's toxicity."

"You are a broken record  8) always the same spiel over and over, has been for years; perhaps you need to look in the mirror and see if any labels you use so lavishly, apply to the view others have of your paradigm."

"You, so clearly, want what the successful have, but all you do is makes excuses for why you are a have-not instead of buckling down and ramming full speed ahead."

[shrug]
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: robomont on June 08, 2017, 08:01:21 am
i like logic.
Title: Re: Example Of Mass Media Deception
Post by: Back on June 08, 2017, 02:39:44 pm
Hi All

Not taking sides.

This is what I see.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_l4Ab5FRwM


Bless and yes I am a vet.
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