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Re: Syrian Refugees - Should we be alarmed Yet?
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2016, 10:03:46 pm »
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Re: Syrian Refugees - Should we be alarmed Yet?
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2016, 10:05:27 pm »
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Re: Syrian Refugees - Should we be alarmed Yet?
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2016, 10:17:27 pm »
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Re: Syrian Refugees - Should we be alarmed Yet?
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2016, 08:14:53 am »
So, how are muslim refugees different from the people who started these fine enclaves in our own US of A?

Heres some places in the US where specific ethnic groups have formed populations in their own locales over hundreds of years.....

http://www.chinatown-online.com

http://www.miamihispanicculturalartscenter.org

http://www.exploreminnesota.com/travel-ideas/swedish-heritage-itinerary/

http://www.visitflorida.com/en-us/articles/2011/june/1811-tarpon-springs-junction-of-greek-heritage-and-florida-history.html

among the thousands of places here which show high percentage of non typical "American" citizenry, we dont really see a high percentage of dangerous interaction with surounding populations..for the most part..

Crime statistics are usually within standard guidelines for any ethnic community embedded in picket fence ideological cities and towns...to me there is one difference between these mainly peaceful locations and what the muslim refugees would have us allow them to construct once they arrive in greater numbers...

Sharia Law.

Watch what you wish for, those with a bleeding heart....history shows the outcomes of allowing extremist religions to take over various worldwide locations to have been very detrimental to those involved.

In religion, we find insanity, in insanity, the breakdown of logical discourse, and subsequently human advancement takes a real beating...everyone loses.
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Re: Syrian Refugees - Should we be alarmed Yet?
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2016, 06:44:27 am »
Even if they were destroying themselves, which I don't doubt has and is happening to an extent, what business have we got in adding to it?

Do you actually condone US, UK, and Israeli foreign policy?

(And their allies)

If you do, this is something which we will never agree on.
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Re: Syrian Refugees - Should we be alarmed Yet?
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2016, 08:26:35 am »
Well, I dont condone anything done by megalomaniacal leadership, but sadly, whether we condone any acts or behavior towards other nations or not, it wont matter as the power rift is far too great for us to effect any type of solution, or rational approach.

As for people..people usually do ok at keeping themselves safe and their societal behavior patterns are typically within the accepted norm for western ideology, but when you mix in an insane doctrine of misogyny and disregard for basic human rights on this planet...such as the right to live unfettered by insane doctrines....failure is the only option.

The religion of Islam has kept a good part of its brainwashed laity in caveman mentality now for over 1400 years, and islam is also playing catch up with christianity, which had its violent era, and is now a religion of inactivity and shame for many of its locked in membership.

Like the abrahamic religions, islam shows no hope for human progress in the mental arena, and stifles the human nature so badly, those who follow its twisted and insane doctrine spend their life in useless piety, we see in islam, the norm these days is to either blow up that which disagrees with their mindless march of madness, or to sit stewing in their own hateful and intolerant juices, awaiting the end result..either complete insanity, or death.

So, in a nation so wrapped up in Kardashians, government sponsored race baiting, and corporate greed that has grown to Rome type proportions...do we really want to incorporate another entire segment of people who will add exactly zero to our culture, and even less to our forward progress as a nation of strength in the world....all the while either wanting to blow us up for denying allah as a god, or actually blowing us up as a certain percentage of them most surely will try to do?

I say, if one is inept of mind enough to want these people to enter their country for whatever pretense, let them have them, the US although an aggressor over the last century, has kept Europe and other nations safe from certain doom on more than one occasion, and possibly even your nation, if these refugees gain a toehold in your society.

As for the US, I think we have accepted enough deadweight and human fodder through the years, and a drive through any heavily ethnic socialistic housing project here will tell you they make lots of babies, and are now a large segment of the populace...perhaps it is time to filter in immigration for the people who truly will add to our society, and filter out those who wish to force their insane doctrines upon us because they feel it is for our own good.

Do not ever think for one minute, total sharia law is anything but their full and certain goal for every nation they infect with it, because that is when you are leaving the door open for the complete and utter failure of humanity as a whole.

Christianity has tried to numb us down, Jewish people have kept their bloodlines somewhat pure, and here we are, still the place everyone wants to come to love, letting another entire segment of the worlds religious insanity come here and then mollycoddling them is not on the menu for the majority of Americans.

Is it too ironic to say...
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Re: Syrian Refugees - Should we be alarmed Yet?
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2016, 01:21:31 pm »
The religion of Islam has kept a good part of its brainwashed laity in caveman mentality now for over 1400 years, and islam is also playing catch up with christianity, which had its violent era, and is now a religion of inactivity and shame for many of its locked in membership.
What keeps people brainwashed is ignorance, so it's no surprise that on all those countries where the people was not really allowed to get information and knowledge people are easier to control. There are millions of Muslims living in "western" countries, do they act in the same way?
If they do then we can say it's a religion thing, if they do not then we cannot.

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Like the abrahamic religions...
Islam is an Abrahamic religion.

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So, in a nation so wrapped up in Kardashians, government sponsored race baiting, and corporate greed that has grown to Rome type proportions...do we really want to incorporate another entire segment of people who will add exactly zero to our culture, and even less to our forward progress as a nation of strength in the world....all the while either wanting to blow us up for denying allah as a god, or actually blowing us up as a certain percentage of them most surely will try to do?
Looking at your own example of what is now your country's culture, maybe it would be better to get a new one.

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I say, if one is inept of mind enough to want these people to enter their country for whatever pretense, let them have them, the US although an aggressor over the last century, has kept Europe and other nations safe from certain doom on more than one occasion, and possibly even your nation, if these refugees gain a toehold in your society.
Yes, the good old US of A, saviour of mankind...  ::)

This is what I do not like in many people from the US, that "we are the good ones, everyone else is either our enemy or should be grateful for our existence".

Funny, if it wasn't sad...

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Re: Syrian Refugees - Should we be alarmed Yet?
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2016, 04:40:09 pm »
It's only sad looking from your side of the fence ArMap, you know secretly in your heart you love the good ole USA. ;)

Islam as for being monotheistic, and based on certain tenets of both hebrew and christian ideals  is an Abrahamic religion, but the use of a demiurge such as Mohammed makes it different as he was a prophet, not a messiah...and the hebrews had no messiah....its still structured mind control at best.

It is parallel to christianity as I said, just 600 years behind.

Id also guess somewhere in the last hundred years, your own country has been protected or shielded by the US , whether you knew it or not...from the people who wish to do harm to western society, just because you didnt or dont see it, dont assume we havent been there for your country at some point.

Its just beyond your pay grade to know how and when.

Actually as for Islam here in the US, we do have quite a number of people who incite radicalist ideologies, and pass down extreme hatred for ole whitey....I myself in the business I am in, run into dozens of them every weekend, and they almost always act as if they could give two poops about me or my life and beliefs.

So, no, ours arent any different from those in muslim nations, except they know if they try their crap in the US, someone is going to either kill them, or make them wish they were dead.

But then again, our propoganda is different from yours, so as you say, we"count yourself, but not me" are sheep in the field.

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Re: Syrian Refugees - Should we be alarmed Yet?
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2016, 05:47:13 pm »
It's only sad looking from your side of the fence ArMap, you know secretly in your heart you love the good ole USA. ;)
No, why would I love a country that got war ships with their guns pointing to my country's parliament just in case we got to close to Communism?

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Id also guess somewhere in the last hundred years, your own country has been protected or shielded by the US , whether you knew it or not...from the people who wish to do harm to western society, just because you didnt or dont see it, dont assume we havent been there for your country at some point.
Who are that "people that wish to do harm to western society"? In fact, what is that "western society"?

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Its just beyond your pay grade to know how and when.
Ah, the old excuse, "your too low on the food chain to be important and only important people know about that".

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Actually as for Islam here in the US, we do have quite a number of people who incite radicalist ideologies, and pass down extreme hatred for ole whitey....I myself in the business I am in, run into dozens of them every weekend, and they almost always act as if they could give two poops about me or my life and beliefs.
That's because your "western society" is an extremist society, always talking about enemies (and looking for them) and about hate. Before I joined ATS (the first Internet forum I joined) I had never seen so much talk about hate, I even made a thread asking why the US appears to have the need to feel hated.

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But then again, our propoganda is different from yours, so as you say, we"count yourself, but not me" are sheep in the field.
Sorry, I don't understand that sentence.  ???

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Re: Syrian Refugees - Should we be alarmed Yet?
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2016, 06:00:52 pm »
Well ArMap, all opinion, all the time....thats all it is, and yours is no better than mine..

The query was staged, I responded, cuz its one of dem dare forum thingies, remember?

Methinks now in retrospect, you dont like us folks in the US, since I personally do the behest of my leadership in your opinion..oh theres that word..opinion again.

Wow, someone from another country that blames so much on the US, from a standpoint of thousands of miles away..and dont say the internet this or that...you are a product of what your own leadership spews...propaganda defined.

So, heres what is happening right now in the good ole US....

Tomorrow I am being sent to spread democracy to a third world nation...should be a fun day, wonder how many bombers and ground troops Ill need. Day in the life of a typical 'Murican, right?

I condemn all aggressive behavior, whatsoever, just like you.

Opinion?

Mine is....until we see a need for bringing undocumented Syrian refugees into our country, they should be kept out..hows that? No hate, just common sense. Can you debunk that, sir?

Pretty simple, but then again, opinions are said to be like ...um..what is that word.....

Now chop me up into little quotes, and try to compartmentalize your reply to this post...its all opinion anyways, so it doesnt matter.

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Re: Syrian Refugees - Should we be alarmed Yet?
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2016, 05:04:12 am »
Excellent ArMaP.
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Re: Syrian Refugees - Should we be alarmed Yet?
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2016, 06:02:28 am »
I wonder if the aliens will build in some cut out switches this time.

would anyone blame them ?

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Re: Syrian Refugees - Should we be alarmed Yet?
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2016, 01:31:12 pm »
Well ArMap, all opinion, all the time....thats all it is, and yours is no better than mine..
True, but I do not present my opinions as if they are facts.

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The query was staged, I responded, cuz its one of dem dare forum thingies, remember?
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by "the query was staged". ???

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Methinks now in retrospect, you dont like us folks in the US, since I personally do the behest of my leadership in your opinion..oh theres that word..opinion again.
You are wrong, I have nothing against the people in the US, I just don't like the actions of a small percentage of them, but I never mix a few with the whole.

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Wow, someone from another country that blames so much on the US, from a standpoint of thousands of miles away..and dont say the internet this or that...you are a product of what your own leadership spews...propaganda defined.
If you are talking about me, yes, I blame the US for bringing their war ships to a fellow NATO country and pointing the ships' guns to the Portuguese parliament, I saw them.

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Mine is....until we see a need for bringing undocumented Syrian refugees into our country, they should be kept out..hows that? No hate, just common sense. Can you debunk that, sir?
You don't see their need as a strong enough reason?

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Re: Syrian Refugees - Should we be alarmed Yet?
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2016, 08:18:15 pm »
If you are talking about me, yes, I blame the US for bringing their war ships to a fellow NATO country and pointing the ships' guns to the Portuguese parliament, I saw them.

Did you get any pics?


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Re: Syrian Refugees - Should we be alarmed Yet?
« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2016, 07:29:30 am »
Did you get any pics?
No, I was going with my family to visit my uncle and my aunt on the other side of the Tagus river and we could see the ships on the river while we were crossing the bridge to Lisbon side of the river. We only knew what they were doing there later, but we thought it was strange for them to be so up the river, as war ships usually anchor closer to the entrance.

 


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