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Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
« Reply #255 on: March 08, 2017, 02:53:54 pm »
Perhaps you could make that a research project :P Then you would be able to present a better opinin based on evidence collected  be it for or against

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That would really be a change, not only because it would be something I never did but also because it would be a rare occasion on Pegasus, seeing a real research project.  :P

Too bad I don't have the time.  :(

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Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
« Reply #256 on: March 13, 2017, 08:13:53 am »
Personally I feel that expanding earth makes so much sense in regards to watching land pieces form together.
I have to agree with ArMaP that the idea of increase mass to this extent seem illogical.
For this theory to be accurate, the earth must be hollow. Not necessarily the inner earth h theory where people live there, but full of caverns, or perhaps the center of earth is full of gases rather than a solid molten core.

If it were gaseous, then the earth expanding would be no different than blowing up a balloon.

How do "They" know the center of earth is a solid iron core? Somebody been there?
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« Reply #257 on: March 13, 2017, 11:21:06 am »
Personally I feel that expanding earth makes so much sense in regards to watching land pieces form together.

Yes it does  :D

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I have to agree with ArMaP that the idea of increase mass to this extent seem illogical.

Under our current laws of physics, yes I agree. Where would the extra mass come from?

But then scientists tried to tell us that the entire EXPANDING universe came from a single BIG BANG. So where did all that matter suddenly materialize from?  And the universe is still expanding. maybe  just maybe there is a law of creation we don't yet have a grasp on :P


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For this theory to be accurate, the earth must be hollow. Not necessarily the inner earth theory where people live there, but full of caverns, or perhaps the center of earth is full of gases rather than a solid molten core.

Caverns eh? Well lets look at that   Jules Verne Journey to the Center of the Earth...  he never showed the world as hollow but rather a series of interconnected caves



He sketched one cave with giant crystals that dwarf a man, this is one of my favorite images



because in 2002 they found such a cave in Mexico

Naica Crystal Cave Mexico



So HOW did Jules verne know?  Just a lucky guess? Hmmmm in any case his vision of a hollow earth consisting of a series of caves seems to be easily proven :D

Then look at that recently discoverded cave in Viet Nam  Son Doong cave



The super caves in China  heck the whole mountain is hollow




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If it were gaseous, then the earth expanding would be no different than blowing up a balloon.

Oddly enough methane gas presure has been EXTREMELY high in recent years..  so high that it is literally blowing holes open in Siberia

Giant holes are bursting open in Siberia, and you can hear the explosions from 60 miles away
http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-exploding-permafrost-methane-craters-global-warming-2016-6

The Gulf oil spill was made difficult to seal because of EXTREMELY high gas pressure  35-40 times what is considerd normal

Mass bird and fish die offs caused by huge methane bubbles  like the one at Redondo beach 

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=4113.msg54478#msg54478

Methane Hydrate blamed for depleting the oxygen in the water  from under water methane mud volcanoes

So there is your expanding gas.  Is it enough to inflate rock?  Maybe

In Long Beach, California, oil wells (which can be seen all over the city) were pumping out the oil. This caused the land to subside  25 FEET!!!

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In the late 1930s, oil was discovered under Long Beach harbor. Its production helped Long Beach recover from the Depression and provided revenue to support expansion and modernization of the harbor as well as enriching individuals who owned land in the area. As a result when land near the oil field began to sink, those who were profiting from pumping the oil out from under the land resisted any suggestion that there could be a link between oil production and subsidence. They hired experts to defend their position. As the subsidence continued, those whose property was damaged by the sinking, but who were not benefiting from the oil production, hired experts to determine what was really causing the sinking.

While the controversy continued, the land kept sinking. It sunk like a big bowl and the bottom of the bowl was more than 25 feet below its previous elevation. Some warned that if the sinking continued, the ocean might inundate the city. The Navy Shipyard was near the bottom of the bowl and the Navy didn't own the mineral rights of the Shipyard so they were suffering damage but receiving no benefit so in 1958 the Navy sued all of the oil operators. Although the suit was never litigated or settled, it helped to convince many people that a proposed solution, pumping water into the fault blocks where the oil had been taken out, should be implemented. And that solution stopped the sinking.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/Endangered_Earth_Subsidence_01.html




They don't know :D the theory of what the core is like is constantly changing

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Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
« Reply #258 on: March 13, 2017, 11:29:40 am »
Another Jules Verne sketch

Notice it's not very far underground :P



This cave with the giant mushrooms and dinosaurs has clouds in it...



Can weather exist in a cave?

Apparently so

Cave So Big, It Has Its Own Weather!
The weather inside Son Doong Cave - The largest cave in the world.



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Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
« Reply #259 on: March 13, 2017, 11:39:17 am »
And what about THIS?

Huge Underground "Ocean" Discovered Towards Earth's Core


http://www.iflscience.com/environment/huge-underground-ocean-discovered-towards-earths-core/

Earth may have underground 'ocean' three times that on surface

Scientists say rock layer hundreds of miles down holds vast amount of water, opening up new theories on how planet formed Three-quarters of the Earth's water may be locked deep underground in a layer of rock, scientists say. After decades of searching scientists have discovered that a vast reservoir of water, enough to fill the Earth’s oceans three times over, may be trapped hundreds of miles beneath the surface, potentially transforming our understanding of how the planet was formed.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jun/13/earth-may-have-underground-ocean-three-times-that-on-surface

Huge 'Ocean' Discovered Inside Earth



http://www.livescience.com/1312-huge-ocean-discovered-earth.html

Earth's LARGEST OCEAN Discovered Underground!




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Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
« Reply #260 on: March 13, 2017, 02:26:58 pm »
How do "They" know the center of earth is a solid iron core? Somebody been there?
They suppose it's solid because, among other things, of the way seismic waves go through and reflect on the several layers down to the core.

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Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
« Reply #261 on: March 13, 2017, 05:00:51 pm »

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Crippling snow storm looking more certain for the NE U.S.

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• Makings of a large snow storm for all of the Northeast US and adjacent Canada was about to take place with first snowflakes arriving in southern Vermont Tuesday daybreak...lasting into Wednesday night/early Thursday morning.

• This continues to look like a big snow storm, one of the top 10 Nor’easters of recent years that could cripple portions of the Northeast I-95 Corridor region with blizzard like conditions due to cold temperatures and giant fluff factor in snowfall and powder that will be easily blown around.

• Wind gusts were also impressive just south and east of Vermont exceeding levels of power outages.

• The snow shield is huge covering well north of the Canadian border with impressive precipitation amounts: melted water 1 to 1.6” across Vermont.

• Temperatures that are well below normal were making this storm “Utility friendly” with a medium dry snowfall likely more than a foot and possibly ending with amounts nearing 2 feet in many locations.

• Snow to liquid ratios continued to be very high greater than 15:1 and possibly more like 16-8:1.

• The primary jackpot zone for most snow lies across eastern Pennsylvania New Jersey and up the I-95 corridor to around Bar Harbor ME. But expansiveness of the snows bring greater than 10 inches to the Canadian border based off European Ensemble model runs.

• ECMWF control model runs from last night and this morning seemed to have locked on after zigzagging considerably between one model run and the other, thus confidence for a MONSTER STORM was growing.

• Still historically these systems this year dud out as the very last moment, and this storm system may end up in the 60 percentile and not the 80-90th percentile.



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Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
« Reply #262 on: March 13, 2017, 05:33:49 pm »
Have you noticed it's only news if it happens in the NE US?

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« Reply #263 on: March 13, 2017, 06:04:45 pm »
Just another day where I live in Ontario with Lake effect snow. This year though has been soft compared to a couple of years ago.   ::)
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Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
« Reply #264 on: March 17, 2017, 10:51:40 am »

GREEN 03/16/2017 09:38 pm ET

American Fears About Climate Change Hit Record High, Poll Finds

A new Gallup poll finds 68 percent believe humans are causing warming, and two-thirds are “worried” about it.
By Mary Papenfuss

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As President Donald Trump aims to slash funding for the Environmental Protection Agency and dismisses concerns about global warming, American worries about climate change are at a record high, according to a new poll.

A Gallup survey found that 68 percent of those polled believe humans are causing climate change, and 62 percent are convinced we’re already experiencing its negative effects.

Almost half of Americans — 45 percent — say they worry a “great deal” about climate change. An additional 21 percent say they worry a “fair amount” about the problem, according to the poll, which was conducted March 1-5.

A separate poll found that 57 percent believe Trump will do a “poor job” of protecting the environment. (Gallup found at the start of Barack Obama’s presidency that 79 percent believed he would do a “good job” on the environment, compared to just 36 percent for Trump — though the poll was conducted before Trump unveiled his proposed cuts to the EPA budget.)

Worry about the issue is at its highest in 30 years, Gallup found.

Gallup speculates that the high number of Americans fearful about climate change was likely impacted by the second warmest February on record, which was just before the survey. Last year’s high numbers also followed a record February heat wave.

Fears spiked in 2007 as well, and analysts theorize it may have been because people were affected by a key 2006 documentary on the problem, “An Inconvenient Truth.” Concerns were not as pronounced between 2007 to 2011 because Americans may have been more fearful about the recession and distracted from worries about global warming, according to Gallup.

According to the Gallup poll, 71 percent of Americans — another record high — agree that most scientists believe global warming is occurring.

But their current concerns fly in the face of the attitude of the Trump administration.

The president’s proposed budget would gut the EPA, with a 31 percent cut in funding.

“We’re not spending money on that anymore,” Mick Mulvaney, director of the Office of Management and Budget, said Thursday of efforts to battle climate change. “We consider that to be a waste of your money.”

Trump has said climate change is a hoax cooked up by and for the Chinese. His new EPA head Scott Pruitt said just last week that he doesn’t believe carbon dioxide is to blame for global warming, ignoring scientific findings to the contrary.

The Sierra Club on Tuesday called on the EPA’s inspector general to investigate Pruitt’s comments on carbon dioxide, saying he violated the agency’s 2012 Scientific Integrity Policy, which requires that agency workers and officials “respect” the findings of the broader scientific community.

Lawyers for the environmental organization said in letter that Pruitt’s comments contradict “decades of work by international scientific authorities and federal agencies, including the EPA, that have found carbon dioxide to be a primary cause of global warming.” His comments are “not only erroneous, but appear to be politically motivated,” the letter adds.

An EPA spokesman insisted Pruitt’s comments were “perfectly in keeping” with the policy, insisting there is debate on the issue within the scientific community, Reuters reported.




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Re: Worsening Weather, Earthquakes, Vortices, Volcanoes, CMEs ... What's Up?
« Reply #265 on: March 17, 2017, 11:17:34 am »
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“We’re not spending money on that anymore,” Mick Mulvaney, director of the Office of Management and Budget, said Thursday of efforts to battle climate change. “We consider that to be a waste of your money.”
I agree with this statement; according to those same scientists every planet in the solar system is getting warmer; if co2 is playing a large part in it as they state, how do they propose to convince Mother Nature to quit pouring co2 into the atmosphere?

Considering Mt Pinatubo pumped out more in 3 days than mankind has in 200 years...

Seems like a waste of our money and resources to me
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« Reply #266 on: March 17, 2017, 12:04:24 pm »
Agree totally. Also if you want cold just get a volcano to put a few million tonnes of ash in upper atmosphere. Instant ice age. It's all a scam to get more tax money
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« Reply #267 on: March 17, 2017, 02:27:08 pm »
American Fears About Climate Change Hit Record High, Poll Finds

A new Gallup poll finds 68 percent believe humans are causing warming, and two-thirds are “worried” about it.

This is because of the political fear mongering and misleading data.

No SANE person that has done even the smallest amount of research will deny that climate change is real... it is just not caused by mankind, nor can we do much about it.   As Seeker pointed out this global warming trend is being noticed on ALL the planets in the solar system...

So unless mankind is out there on all those planets messing them up, then how can this be a man made problem?


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A separate poll found that 57 percent believe Trump will do a “poor job” of protecting the environment. (Gallup found at the start of Barack Obama’s presidency that 79 percent believed he would do a “good job” on the environment, compared to just 36 percent for Trump — though the poll was conducted before Trump unveiled his proposed cuts to the EPA budget.)

Sounds like more political posturing. Obama had 8 years  Did he fix global warming? or has it got worse during his reign?  Hmmmm Can Trump fix the weather?  NO  Can Hillary fix the weather?  NO  Even though conspiracy nuts say HAARP and Chemtrails are to blame while others say that HAARP and chemtrail are the solution...  NO ONE can fix the weather

Japan builds a 30 foot high tsunami wall... Japan say "Ah now we are safe...  no need to listen to warnings"   nature says "Oh yeah? tryu THIS!" and throws a 40 foot tsunami at them and knocks down their wall..

Was that HAARP that made the tsunami? well some will say so :P  but NO ONE can stop Nature from doing what it will

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Worry about the issue is at its highest in 30 years, Gallup found.

fear mongering and social media effect


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“We’re not spending money on that anymore,” Mick Mulvaney, director of the Office of Management and Budget, said Thursday of efforts to battle climate change. “We consider that to be a waste of your money.”

I agree 100%  Total waste of money to try to stop global warming.  Remeber a few years back all the money and research grants to study the holes in the ozone layer over the polls? Also a huge waste of money and deliberate fear mongering

The holes over the poles are NATURAL  They have always been there and will always be there. We were taught the ozone cycle back in high school... (they also taught us that if a tide suddenly goes out fast DO NOT collect the pretty seashells... run as fast as you can UPHILL :P)

The ice core samples taken by the Russians drilling at lake Vostok are stored in Norway for anyone to study. Those ice cores go back 415,000 years  I have posted this many times and have several pages on it. There are corresponding CO2 and Methane charts as well  415,000 years  LONG before mankind made any smoke  :P



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Trump has said climate change is a hoax cooked up by and for the Chinese. His new EPA head Scott Pruitt said just last week that he doesn’t believe carbon dioxide is to blame for global warming, ignoring scientific findings to the contrary.

Well climate change is real and not sure about the Chinese spreading the Hoax as I was sure it was Al Gore and crew :P but I would like to read what Trump ACTUALLY said rather than the Huffington Post who are 100% biased to the Liberal side. As for 'scientific studies" these days you can get any number of scientists to say just about anything.

There were scientists who suggested drilling a hole in the magma bubble at yellowstone to 'relieve pressure". There were scientists who thought using small tactical nukes on the San Andreas fault would gently ease it along. There were scientistrs who thought exploding a nuke on the Moon would allow them to see organic debri in the blast (Carl Sagan was on that team :P )

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The Sierra Club on Tuesday called on the EPA’s inspector general to investigate Pruitt’s comments on carbon dioxide, saying he violated the agency’s 2012 Scientific Integrity Policy, which requires that agency workers and officials “respect” the findings of the broader scientific community.

Lawyers for the environmental organization said in letter that Pruitt’s comments contradict “decades of work by international scientific authorities and federal agencies, including the EPA, that have found carbon dioxide to be a primary cause of global warming.” His comments are “not only erroneous, but appear to be politically motivated,” the letter adds.


hmmm yup  It all depends what your agenda is  :D

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« Reply #268 on: March 17, 2017, 02:43:34 pm »
Reminds me of Trumps wall! Better ban ladders and ropes in Mexico also. 2500 miles long. I think the Mexicans could lean a ladder up one side of the wall and throw a rope or bedsheets down the other in remote places and be over

Hey throw a carbon tax on everyone to pay for the wall.
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« Reply #269 on: March 17, 2017, 02:48:08 pm »
A lesson in OZONE and simple Chemistry

Most people, especially Americans, have little understanding of ozone.

OZONE is OXYGEN  nothing more....


OXYGEN is usually written as O  (as in H2O where H is hydrogen)

So why H2?  Because when molcules bond they have 'hooks" that attach based on certain laws.  We won't get into the laws :P that is several years of Chemistry 101

So H has ONE hook  as it is Element # 1  O has TWO hooks (in the outter shell)

So we see H-   -O-   -H   These hooks attach easily and creaye H=O=H  or H2O as it is standerized


Now OXYGEN (O) is POISONOUS to us  Fortunately -O-  does not like to be alone so either bonds with H- to make water or with another -O-

So the Oxygen we breath is O2

Oxygen is Happy and so are we because THAT is what keeps us alive

We breathe out CO2  which PLANTS need to survive  so the more CO2 there is the more plants will thrive and convert it to carbon (for growth) and free O that is released back into the air where it can once again for O2  thus an endless cycle

A side note  80-85% of the oxygen created is from ALGAE the rest from trees and other plants  ALGAE is the number on oxygen regenerator and THRIVES in a CO2 rich environment

Back to OZONE

Ozone is O3  When UV LIGHT hits the O2 in high altidudes, the energy splits open the O2 and adds in a third O giving us O3

O3 is thus heavier and falls to the Earth. In the process the extra energy from the UV is lost (as O2 is the prefered state of oxygen) and splits apart into O and O2

This process also removed POLUTANTS from the air as they attache or 'hook' on to that single O

This is an on going RENEWABLE cycle



So WHY are there HOLE OVER THE POLES?

Simple...

Since Ozone is formed by DIRECT UV light from the sun, the thickness of the Ozone layer depends on how direct those rays are. Over the equator the rays are 100% direct, but over the poles the sun is always on the horizon in summer or below the horizon in winter

Ergo THERE ARE NO DIRECT UV RAYS over the poles


 


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