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Gigas:
Wayne Madsen had to leave the US. They had a hit out on him.
So, now, were beginning to see why those transatlantic deep sea data cables were chopped.
It's beginning to look a lot like the house a secret cards are crumbling.
burntheships:
Gigas,
Where do you source that from?
What is another unusual tidbit, the original story is still
on Privacy Surgeon for the moment, with the orginal
author Simon Davies.
But stragely they are pointing to the new article
that is in The Gaurdian, and The Observer, and it
is NOT the same. Curious and curiouser.
--- Quote ---Following a rather turbulent sequence of events in the reporting of this blog by the Observer and Guardian newspapers, coverage can now be found in the Guardian story here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/30/nsa-spying-europe-claims-us-eu-trade
--- End quote ---
http://www.privacysurgeon.org/blog/incision/former-nsa-contractor-warns-of-murky-interception-arrangements/
Here, Forbes has an interesting take on the entire story.
--- Quote ---It looks like The Guardian/Observer*has managed to get itself mightily stung over a revelation about PRISM and the NSA. Which is all very amusing given the paper’s part in the Glenn Greenwald/Edward Snowden revelations. But what turns it into an absolute joy is that, while the news originally came from someone with, hmm, rather “out there” views, the actual information itself seems to be roughly true. And yet they’ve still taken the piece down.
The story starts here, at a site called The Privacy Surgeon. The site does an interview with an ex-NSA guy called Wayne Madsen. In which he claims that there are various European and other countries that cooperate with the NSA in the collection and then dissemination of information picked up from the monitoring of communications.
--- End quote ---
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/06/30/the-absolute-joy-of-the-guardians-sting-over-prism-and-the-nsa/
sky otter:
from the huff post link you sited
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/28/army-blocks-the-guardian_n_3515374.html
UPDATE: US News and World Report's Steven Nelson wrote Friday that the Army's ban on NSA stories was a much broader one than initially thought:
"According to [Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Damien] Pickart, news websites that re-report information first published by The Guardian or other primary sources are also affected.
"If that particular website runs an article that our filters determine has classified information... the particular content on that website will remain inaccessible," he said.
Pickart said the blackout affects "millions" of computers on "all Department of Defense networks and systems."
Read the full report here.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/06/28/blackout-defense-department-blocks-all-articles-about-nsa-leaks-from-millions-of-computers
Washington Whispers
Blackout: Defense Department Blocks All Articles About NSA Leaks From 'Millions' of Computers
By Steven Nelson
June 28, 2013 RSS Feed Print
Washington Whispers
Blackout: Defense Department Blocks All Articles About NSA Leaks From 'Millions' of Computers
By Steven Nelson
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The Defense Department's news blackout affects millions of computers around the world.
The Department of Defense is blocking online access to news reports about classified National Security Agency documents made public by Edward Snowden. The blackout affects all of the department's computers and is part of a department-wide directive.
"Any website that runs information that the Department of Defense still considers classified" is affected, Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Damien Pickart told U.S. News in a phone interview.
According to Pickart, news websites that re-report information first published by The Guardian or other primary sources are also affected.
[BROWSE: Editorial Cartoons About the NSA Surveillance Scandal]
"If that particular website runs an article that our filters determine has classified information... the particular content on that website will remain inaccessible," he said.
Pickart said the blackout affects "millions" of computers on "all Department of Defense networks and systems."
The spokesman told U.S. News that original reports about the leaks may be specifically targeted for the blackout. He admitted that "automated filters are never perfect," and some reports may slip through the cyber blockade.
well Z..watch out....guess we ought to do some savin of our own, huh? ;)
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http://www.privacysurgeon.org/blog/incision/former-nsa-contractor-warns-of-murky-interception-arrangements/
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before
http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/9956
The National Security Agency: A global superpower
By Wayne Madsen
Posted on June 19, 2013
by Wayne Madsen
Recent revelations that the U.S. National Security Agency is conducting massive meta-data vacuuming of the phone calls and Internet transactions of tens of millions of Americans and, perhaps, billions of people around the world, with little or no effective oversight by President Obama, the U.S. Congress, or the federal court system means that the intelligence agency has become, in its own right, a global superpower.
NSA acts like a virtual “state within a state.” The director of NSA, a four-star flag officer, also wears the hat of Commander of the U.S. Cyber Command, the chief cyber-warfare echelon within the Department of Defense. Just as any nation-state, NSA also has alliances with similar signals intelligence and cyber-warfare agencies around the world, including Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), Australia’s Defense Signals Directorate (DSD), Communications Security Establishment Canada (CSEC), and the Government Communications Security Board (GCSB) of New Zealand. These English-speaking partners are known as the “Five Eyes” countries and the signals intelligence alliance began after World War II and grew in scope during the Cold War.
NSA also has “third party” intelligence sharing agreements with a number
rdunk:
This "spooks and leaks" simply gives us more insight into just how really bad things have become and are becoming for this country.
Isn't it quite apparent that the U.S. government, and the governments of the world, are performing as if they were playing a video game, with an almost "Bud Abbott and Lou Costello" approach to trying to manage their responsibilities? That would be a "dummer esel" approach (German)!
It is just one stupid thing after another that keeps "rising to the top", and stupid is as stupid does. When world leaders present themselves as being stupid and unqualified for the task, then it just becomes a matter of what leader/country will be the first to "step-up" and initiate actions to seize control of the moment - ie Hitler for example.
Russia and China both seem to be moving in that direction - and with that thought, they might could bring themselves to join together, to take over completely. Right now, only the little countries with their "hands out" will even give the U.S. the "time-of-day. Our friendly countries are becoming fewer and fewer, so, when push come to shove, the U.S. may be left out in the cold (assuming that global warming stops!) :)
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