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Re: EU UK Referendum
« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2016, 01:45:51 pm »
the virtual selloff of Greece ? :D
Do you have any evidence?

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Re: EU UK Referendum
« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2016, 01:48:08 pm »
Gun control and registration of arms!
Really? Can you show me an example?

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Environmental reqs.!
Again, do you have an example?

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.........and funding needs for the UN, which is a money black hole!
True, and some years ago I remember reading the US wasn't paying their dues to UNICEF, so they were at risk of shutting down several aid programs.

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Re: EU UK Referendum
« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2016, 01:51:40 pm »
Why would 2 or 3 million names on a petition make any difference??
The petition I saw mentioned was started before the referendum, asking for a second one if neither side got more than 60% of the votes.

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millions have already put their names on petitions (votes). More than 30 million people from England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland -- and even tiny Gibraltar -- went to the polls, with 51.89% of them deciding that Britain would become the first country to withdraw from the 28-member bloc.
The problem with that is that the UK is an union itself, so they should not be surprised if those that chose to stay in the EU make their own referendums to break away from the UK. That's the case of Scotland, Northern Ireland and tiny Gibraltar.
The case of London is different, asking for the independence of London is a bit ridiculous.

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Re: EU UK Referendum
« Reply #48 on: June 26, 2016, 03:18:50 pm »
ArMaP said, "Really? Can you show me an example"?



Breitbart

by AWR HAWKINS27 Aug 2015

Representatives attending the UN Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) in Mexico this week have set up a structure for future conferences on gun control that include a veto-proof decision making process.

According to Reuters, representatives from 130 countries gathered in Mexico, although only 72 countries have fully ratified the treaty. They determined that Geneva will be “the seat of the permanent secretariat for the ATT” and they unanimously decided that unanimous agreements would not have to be reached on gun control decisions going forward.


More: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/27/un-gun-control-body-supported-by-obama-sets-up-veto-proof-framework/

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Re: EU UK Referendum
« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2016, 03:46:00 pm »
Yes !

I Wonder however if it would had been seen as so concerning had the markets not crashed..

They are down again on the Late Sunday opening.. But I was suspecting that they will re-rally back up from today..(If the low made in the first 6 hrs holds into Monday)

I think that's the main thing that is putting fear in everyone..which is very understandable..

The thoughts of being put into severe uncertainty after some of the problems that have occurred since the 2007/8 crash..along with another recession..

In such cases.. we know we will have to deal with the changes..and some market concerns...which may not seem as bad if the markets hold up.. but if we see major declines that will create possible big problems..

and some experts had suggested a crash is likely to be coming some time ago even before they came up with  Brexit..



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Doncha think it a bit ODD, that people who just voted on a matter and lost are now asking for another vote, or, or asking that the vote of Great Britain be ruled null and void??
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Re: EU UK Referendum
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2016, 04:16:48 pm »
The Arms Trade Treaty is a treaty to regulate international trade in conventional arms. As any other treaty, only the countries that signed and ratified it are obliged to follow their rules, the countries that didn't signed and ratified the treaty have no legal obligation to do any thing.

The countries that signed and ratified the treaty must implement methods to control arms exports, among other things by creating an (or appointing an existing) organisation or governmental body that issues maintains a list of which arms are under export regulation, issues export licences, gives information about the export to the destination country, etc.

The US signed but not ratified the treaty. You can read more about it here.

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Re: EU UK Referendum
« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2016, 05:04:31 pm »
Do you have any evidence?

no, they do *Greeks* .. how much again do they owe ?they'll be paying debt for the foreseeable generational future

shouldn't you put yourself on recharge for a bit ? :D

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Re: EU UK Referendum
« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2016, 05:14:18 pm »

If D.C is just part of the plan ...then He is probably getting a large pay off ! so it wont be poor Dave ! and maybe he will take early retirement....but more than likely now become a back bencher or take on some other roll like Blair did..

maybe he climbs the ladder of the masonic, like blair , but as you can see via Blair .. it takes it's toll :D
don't worry Astro , ive not shed a single tear for the puppet

*a chorus of mfb's choke up in unison*

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Re: EU UK Referendum
« Reply #53 on: June 26, 2016, 05:33:35 pm »
no, they do *Greeks* .. how much again do they owe ?they'll be paying debt for the foreseeable generational future
The Greek debt has no relation to the UN.

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shouldn't you put yourself on recharge for a bit ? :D
I don't understand what you mean by that. ???

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Re: EU UK Referendum
« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2016, 05:41:34 pm »
The Greek debt has no relation to the UN.

who said anything about the U.N?

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I don't understand what you mean by that. ???

that's because your tired ... get some kip

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Re: EU UK Referendum
« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2016, 05:53:22 pm »
forget it ArMaP, I see , but I don't see much differentiation between the acronym agency's , they're all following a  plan based around Cosmopolitanism, but sometimes triangles just wont fit into squares, as was proved last week

maybe the Aliens will be more insistent with humanity, in light of humanity's habitual failings at harmonizing  difference

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Re: EU UK Referendum
« Reply #56 on: June 27, 2016, 05:10:32 pm »
doublethink on this page me thinks



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Re: EU UK Referendum
« Reply #57 on: June 27, 2016, 05:28:47 pm »
and the first headline on space weather is about Brexit and what its caused :D

http://www.spaceweather.com/

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Re: EU UK Referendum
« Reply #58 on: June 28, 2016, 01:58:00 pm »
Branson says Virgin Group loses third of its value after Brexit.

Captain Birdseye Richard Branson's view on Brexit !



LONDON (Reuters) - Richard Branson, founder and chairman of Virgin Group, said on Tuesday the company had lost about a third of its value since last week's vote by Britons to leave the European Union, adding he believed the country was heading towards a disaster.
Branson said Britain would fall into recession and that there should be a second vote now that people could see the implications of what exiting the bloc would have on the economy.
"This country is going to go into recession. Two of the worst days ever - banks have been pounded means they are not going to lend money, we're going to go into recession," he told the "Good Morning Britain" TV programme.
"We are heading towards a disaster. I don't believe the public realised what a mess their vote would cost."
The billionaire entrepreneur said his airline-through-finance group had cancelled a "very big" deal since the vote which would have involved some 3,000 jobs.
"We're not any worse than anybody else but I suspect we've lost a third of our value," he said.
Branson called for a second EU membership referendum, saying he believed the public had not been given the true facts by those backing Brexit.
"When Brexiters told the public that people were exaggerating there would be a financial meltdown I think it's been proven they were not exaggerating," he said.
"I think one of the reasons why there should be a second referendum, particularly once the terms are known about what our entry into Europe is going to cost us, the public will then have all the facts."
In separate comments to the Guardian newspaper, he said he had met a group of Chinese businessmen who had invested heavily in England, but who would now stop future investment plans and withdraw those they had already made.
"Business people do not want politicians to completely and utterly wreck the hard work they’ve done for years and years and that is effectively what happened," he told the paper.
"Thousands and thousands of jobs will be lost as a result of this. Thousands of jobs that would have been created will be lost and the knock-on effect will be so dire."


https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/branson-says-virgin-group-loses-102714237.html


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Could Queen Elizabeth Veto Brexit?



With her country split almost down the middle following Thursday's Brexit vote to leave the European Union, Queen Elizabeth is likely "saddened" by last week's turn of events.
But as head of state, does the Queen have any power to change the result of the historic vote – including possibly vetoing the move to leave the EU? The answer, in short: No – and here’s why. The Queen’s power lies within the advice and guidance she can give Prime Minister David Cameron in the coming days during their weekly meetings. (In the wake of the Brexit vote, Cameron gave an emotional speech announcing his resignation.)
The Queen calls a prime minister from the largest party in any election to create a cabinet and lead a government. She then leaves it to them, and acts only on the advice of those ministers and the prime minister. "The U.K. has created a system whereby the monarch is not able to exercise power – although all power exists in her person," constitutional expert Alastair Bruce tells PEOPLE. "The prime minister is the holder of all executive power, which she gave him." • Want to keep up with the latest royals coverage? Click here to subscribe to the Royals Newsletter.
"She is an emblematic, human depository of all power but doesn’t exercise it. Arguably, that is how the British monarchy has survived." Like her forebears, the role of the monarch is to "be consulted, encourage and to warn," as Walter Bagheot wrote in the English Constitution in 1867. (This might be especially pertinent for someone with more than 64 years of experience.)
The only possible time she might hold practical power is if she is deciding whom to call to lead a government in a coalition. But, even then, she would do so on advice and only when the politicians have come to an agreement about how they could make a government work.
What Did Queen Elizabeth II Do for the First Time in 63 Years?


Expert Andrew Gimson agrees that it would be "astonishing" for the Queen to intervene over Brexit in any formal way. "A large part of our free press would be jumping up and down about it. It would probably be the end of the monarchy, so she wouldn’t do it," says Gimson, author of Boris: The Rise of Boris Johnson, about the man who led the Brexit campaign.
Political writer and fellow Johnson expert, Sonia Purnell (who wrote Just Boris: A Tale of Blond Ambition), says, "We are so divided now," that she wouldn’t be surprised if conversations were happening at the highest levels in the palace. "Intervening would be an exceptional thing to do and she would be loathe to do it."
One thing is certain: Whatever she has been telling Prime Minister Cameron, or others, it is likely to stay between them. "We're not going to know what she does, what she thinks and how she applies that influence," adds Bruce.



https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/could-queen-elizabeth-veto-brexit-150009181.html
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