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Title: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Eighthman on May 28, 2017, 10:25:31 am
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-28/watershed-moment-merkel-says-germany-can-no-longer-rely-america

This is huge.  The US Empire is in serious trouble.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Irene on May 28, 2017, 11:11:41 am
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-28/watershed-moment-merkel-says-germany-can-no-longer-rely-america (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-28/watershed-moment-merkel-says-germany-can-no-longer-rely-america)

This is huge.  The US Empire is in serious trouble.

Good, time for us to pull out of Europe so they will know true pain and abandonment.

They have thrived under the umbrella of US protection. Time to pull the carpet out from under them.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Amaterasu on May 28, 2017, 11:57:05 am
Sounds like the script is calling for the US to be on opposite sides of Germany again in the WWIII the play is leading up to.  The play is getting boring and I suggest everyOne leave the theatre and create better.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: The Seeker on May 28, 2017, 01:46:09 pm
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-28/watershed-moment-merkel-says-germany-can-no-longer-rely-america

This is huge.  The US Empire is in serious trouble.
You need to eat more buffalo  8) it isn't the US that is in trouble; we have been propping up and sustaining most of Nato and Europe in general since WW2...

The situation as it stands is that the wrong people have been in charge; and it seems to be that you are just gleeful every time the US might be having issues of any kind; so why don't you move to Russia, or China, since you think they are such great and wonderful places?

Hmmm? Leave this festering pool of decadent capitalistic barbarism behind and join your new comrades in their brave new world heirachy; then you can write us and tell us how wonderful your new life is  ::)

and for the last time, PUT THIS CRAP IN THE POLITICAL FORUM.
Not general discussion, not breaking news...

Seeker
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Eighthman on May 28, 2017, 04:03:50 pm
It is breaking/recent news, put it where you wish.

I see people who can't get decent jobs, debts piling up and the American dream ending.  Racism seems to be making a comeback in bizarre ways.  The way out?  Stop the pointless wars and hostility and focus on the things the American people need.

Since there is no way for voters to stop the military-industrial complex, a new solution is needed - and it is now emerging:  a multipolar world order in which the US is firmly limited from wasting anymore resources that should be spent for the people's needs. 

Yes, I do feel "glee" - in that my intuition of hope for my grandkid's generation might come true.  If it offends anyone, then tell me how you think the US and the western world can avoid disaster and give their children a better future.  The people of the EU enjoy a better standard of living now than they ever did as colonial empires and I see that as hopeful for the US.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Irene on May 28, 2017, 04:59:12 pm
Bah. Europe's SOL is due solely to their outrageous socialist tax rates. While I wouldn't mind seeing a national health care plan based on the Scandinavian/Swiss model, again, the taxes required to fund it will seriously piss off the majority of the American people.

Europe is no longer as advanced as you seem to think. They've imported millions of supposed "refugees" who are now wreaking havoc and quickly destroying their host cultures. Classical Europe is dying. That, in my view, is a major cultural crime against humanity.

Merkel is the biggest moron on the Continent. Go ahead and genuflect at her altar. She has absolutely no concern for her heritage and does nothing to protect and preserve it. France is close behind.

Europe should be an example, yes. An example of what NOT to do.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: ArMaP on May 28, 2017, 05:05:06 pm
Europe's SOL is due solely to their outrageous socialist tax rates.
What does "SOL" mean? ???
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Irene on May 28, 2017, 05:07:15 pm
What does "SOL" mean? ???

Standard of living.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Eighthman on May 28, 2017, 05:15:47 pm
I have no admiration for EU leaders and their carelessness about their own heritage.  My primary point is that we need to return to being a republic, not an empire and benefit from the savings.

EU refugee problems are a direct result of US intervention in the Middle East.  I'm not enthused about national healthcare but it could add weight to better foreign policy as fewer resources will be available for undeclared wars.

Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Irene on May 28, 2017, 05:23:52 pm
I have no admiration for EU leaders and their carelessness about their own heritage.  My primary point is that we need to return to being a republic, not an empire and benefit from the savings.

EU refugee problems are a direct result of US intervention in the Middle East.  I'm not enthused about national healthcare but it could add weight to better foreign policy as fewer resources will be available for undeclared wars.

Whatever the cause of the shift of population, Europe should have repelled boarders.

They didn't, and now they're dead in the water.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Eighthman on May 28, 2017, 05:35:03 pm
I wish to repeat that this Political subject should not be seen as unrelated to a primary purpose of this website.  The whole UFO/Alien Disclosure topic seems always bound up within US dominance and stuck there for decades.

Now, that context may change ....... the logjam may be broken up.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Irene on May 28, 2017, 05:37:28 pm
I wish to repeat that this Political subject should not be seen as unrelated to a primary purpose of this website.  The whole UFO/Alien Disclosure topic seems always bound up within US dominance and stuck there for decades.

Now, that context may change ....... the logjam may be broken up.

Bulls***.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Eighthman on May 28, 2017, 05:59:31 pm
Are there reports of Tall Whites or other Alien groups interfacing with US leaders? Why? Because the US is the dominant world power?  How about Area 51 or Stargates or global recovery of crashed craft associated with the US military?

if conventional economic and political power shifts towards Eurasia, what might follow together with that shift?
What is unreasonable about this idea?
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: The Seeker on May 28, 2017, 09:31:44 pm
It is unreasonable and untenable in my eyes because I am first and foremost a patriotic American; I bleed red,white, and blue; everyone has their panties in a wad because our new president is pushing for NATO to be funded by All it's members, not solely by the US...

Merkel will destroy the German Republic and turn it into a vassal of the European Union; if things do not change, within a decade all the members of the EU will be as the old USSR was; name only with no control or choice in what happens within their borders; it is happening already...

Our new president has stated the goal of having the country energy independent, free from the yoke of foreign petro imports; personally I hope he can encourage American business to withdraw from using cheap foreign labor and products, to rekindle manufacturing on our soil, bolstering our economy and creating jobs for our citizens;

You also seem very ignorant of the fact that you live in the freest country in the world, praise countries that care little for any human rights; explain to us why citizens of these nations you praise so highly are so eager when given the opportunity or means to immigrate to the US? If they are such great places, why do their own people want to move to the place you are always talking down about, and never want to return to their homeland?

It is Memorial Day Weekend, the day we are supposed to honor the memory of those who paid the ultimate price so you have the right to talk your bovine feces without censorship or fear of retribution; try doing that in China

  ::)
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Cyanhide on May 29, 2017, 12:56:25 am
Good, time for us to pull out of Europe so they will know true pain and abandonment.

They have thrived under the umbrella of US protection. Time to pull the carpet out from under them.

Seriously? talk about ASS
American Supremacy Syndrome, we have thrived? You mean when your government isn't dragging every western nation in a war?
I didn't expect to see stupid remarks like this in here.

Ugh I could write a 1000 word reply but not one letter would stick.
The time for thinking the USA had any moral high ground has been long past.



Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: robomont on May 29, 2017, 01:35:16 am
imho,its about resources.
if im right,there are future tectonic catastrophes coming.the state dept wants us well prepared.what we see on the surface is almost always a lie.
im sensing a revival of isolationism.
hopefully not 1984 the movie.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on May 29, 2017, 03:29:32 am
If tomorrow all the things were gone
I'd worked for all my life
And I had to start again
With just my children and my wife
I'd thank my lucky stars
To be living here today
Cause the flag still stands for freedom
And they can't take that away
And I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me
And I gladly stand up
Next to you and defend her still today
Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God bless the USA
From the lakes of Minnesota
To the hills of Tennessee
Across the plains of Texas
From sea to shining sea
From Detroit down to Houston,
And New York to L.A
Well there's pride in every American heart
And its time we stand and say
That I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free...........

Rock  8)
VETERAN
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: The Seeker on May 29, 2017, 04:03:46 am
American Supremacy Syndrome, we have thrived? You mean when your government isn't dragging every western nation in a war?
Typical  ::) Perhaps you would rather be goose stepping whilst worrying about whether or not you would be sent to one of the relocation camps for your ethnicity or views?

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I didn't expect to see stupid remarks like this in here.
Same here, but not surprised

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Ugh I could write a 1000 word reply but not one letter would stick.
The time for thinking the USA had any moral high ground has been long past.
You lot aren't even appreciative or grateful that you can air your opinions
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Amaterasu on May 29, 2017, 04:46:34 am
Well, from the comments after Mine above, it is clear that many here are still buying the script as "reality."  Some cling to the indoctrination that some area of Our planet is "better," with its imaginary lines placed by the psychopaths to divide Humanity here, to create "enemies," and thereby to profit off war, while having Their willing (soldiers) and unwilling ("collateral damage") sacrifices to Their sick egos.

Sad so Many are not fully awake to the fact that the "reality" in the "news" is all a script, played out by actors on the literal world stage, leading the audience as the writers of the script want Us to go, gaining consent for the next scripted path They would take Us on.

Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on May 29, 2017, 05:13:29 am
If tomorrow all the things were gone
I'd worked for all my life
And I had to start again
With just my children and my wife
I'd thank my lucky stars
To be living here today
Cause the flag still stands for freedom
And they can't take that away
And I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me
And I gladly stand up
Next to you and defend her still today
Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God bless the USA
From the lakes of Minnesota
To the hills of Tennessee
Across the plains of Texas
From sea to shining sea
From Detroit down to Houston,
And New York to L.A
Well there's pride in every American heart
And its time we stand and say
That I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free...........

Rock  8)
VETERAN

https://youtu.be/je7GCe06-3E
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Eighthman on May 29, 2017, 07:09:24 am
Freedom. Principles .Equality. The American Dream.  Things that countless good, brave men and women suffered and died for.

It's a good day to remember those people and those things they found so important.  It's a good day to remember what an incredible miracle the Constitution is - and how in contrast, it seems impossible to think that its adoption would be possible in today's atmosphere of polarization.

One of the reasons we need to honor these men and these principles is that we might lose what was sacrificed for - and how easy that would be.  Our Founding Fathers warned us about entangling foreign alliances.
It is now open to question as to how 'free' we actually are - given NSA surveillance, TSA patdowns, asset forfeiture laws,  and much more.

I suppose we could ignore all that and think, 'well, it's worse in Russia or China' but I also think that a powerful sense of progress has ALWAYS been a central part of being an American.   Without that,  we're in big trouble.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Irene on May 29, 2017, 07:26:23 am
If tomorrow all the things were gone
I'd worked for all my life
And I had to start again
With just my children and my wife
I'd thank my lucky stars
To be living here today
Cause the flag still stands for freedom
And they can't take that away
And I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me
And I gladly stand up
Next to you and defend her still today
Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God bless the USA
From the lakes of Minnesota
To the hills of Tennessee
Across the plains of Texas
From sea to shining sea
From Detroit down to Houston,
And New York to L.A
Well there's pride in every American heart
And its time we stand and say
That I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free...........

Rock  8)
VETERAN

My favorite version of it -

https://youtu.be/PvPgYLhOq24

And for good measure -

https://youtu.be/ruNrdmjcNTc
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: The Seeker on May 29, 2017, 12:23:05 pm
https://youtu.be/je7GCe06-3E
Gold, brother, and a special thank you to all veterans everywhere...

SOME GAVE ALL, ALL GAVE SOME...

and we still have so many that don't have a clue...

Seeker
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Amaterasu on May 29, 2017, 01:27:39 pm
May We, as co-creational Gods, bless this planet with better than psychopaths in control writing plays, putting them on through THEIR media, and selling them to Us as "reality."
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Irene on May 29, 2017, 01:32:36 pm
May We, as co-creational Gods, bless this planet with better than psychopaths in control writing plays, putting them on through THEIR media, and selling them to Us as "reality."

May I ask what you do for a living?
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: robomont on May 29, 2017, 07:08:53 pm
i have literally handed yall a monster of corruption,cops threatening my life on multiple occasions,freemasons trying to steal my land,ct forums run by gov agencies,had my ideas stolen by gov agents.
but this america is the greatest country on earth?
hmmm?
what im greatful for is americas past,what im not greatful for is the america of now and the america of the future.
some would say,why not change it?
i am,one cop at a time,one ufo at a time,one weapon of war at a time,one giant conspiracy at a time.all at same time!
i challenge each one of you to do just one of these things,not all, just one.i bet you cant!
so even though me and amy may be at the bottom of the barrel,our results move mountains!
love you amy and big hugs from robo!
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Irene on May 29, 2017, 07:12:22 pm
i have literally handed yall a monster of corruption,cops threatening my life on multiple occasions,freemasons trying to steal my land,ct forums run by gov agencies,had my ideas stolen by gov agents.
but this america is the greatest country on earth?
hmmm?
what im greatful for is americas past,what im not greatful for is the america of now and the america of the future.
some would say,why not change it?
i am,one cop at a time,one ufo at a time,one weapon of war at a time,one giant conspiracy at a time.all at same time!
i challenge each one of you to do just one of these things,not all, just one.i bet you cant!
so even though me and amy may be at the bottom of the barrel,our results move mountains!
love you amy and big hugs from robo!

I served the public for 30 years. In doing so I destroyed my personal life and then my health.

Is that not enough?
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Amaterasu on May 29, 2017, 07:16:30 pm
May I ask what you do for a living?

I was a graphic designer, editor, video editor and creator.  Now My hands are so bad with psoriatic artritis and fybromyalgia, and I have Lyme disease...  I am disabled and struggle even to type.  I surely could not make any deadlines!  LOL! 
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Amaterasu on May 29, 2017, 07:19:02 pm
i have literally handed yall a monster of corruption,cops threatening my life on multiple occasions,freemasons trying to steal my land,ct forums run by gov agencies,had my ideas stolen by gov agents.
but this america is the greatest country on earth?
hmmm?
what im greatful for is americas past,what im not greatful for is the america of now and the america of the future.
some would say,why not change it?
i am,one cop at a time,one ufo at a time,one weapon of war at a time,one giant conspiracy at a time.all at same time!
i challenge each one of you to do just one of these things,not all, just one.i bet you cant!
so even though me and amy may be at the bottom of the barrel,our results move mountains!
love you amy and big hugs from robo!

[blush]  Thank You, robo, for all You do.  We WILL succeed in removing the systems that promote psychopaths to power!  [big hugs right back!]
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Irene on May 29, 2017, 07:26:13 pm
I was a graphic designer, editor, video editor and creator.  Now My hands are so bad with psoriatic artritis and fybromyalgia, and I have Lyme disease...  I am disabled and struggle even to type.  I surely could not make any deadlines!  LOL!

So you are on SSDI and/or a pension?
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Amaterasu on May 29, 2017, 07:29:23 pm
So you are on SSDI and/or a pension?

Nope.  Homeless and destitute, I.  But for friends who let Me crash on Their floors, hang out, and use Their WIFIs, I would be living in a park.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Irene on May 29, 2017, 07:31:56 pm
Nope.  Homeless and destitute, I.  But for friends who let Me crash on Their floors, hang out, and use Their WIFIs, I would be living in a park.

How do you treat your various illnesses? That must be difficult in your situation.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: biggles on May 29, 2017, 07:56:43 pm
Nope.  Homeless and destitute, I.  But for friends who let Me crash on Their floors, hang out, and use Their WIFIs, I would be living in a park.

That is deplorable, there should be agencies around the States that could or should help you with the state your in.

Big friggin thumbs down.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: biggles on May 29, 2017, 08:05:55 pm
My place is sold, and the one that I am after is double story with a unit underneath; if you lived down here, you could have occupied that unit.

And I would have got the right supplements for your ails.

I mean if I could get friggin John Stormm out of ketoacidosis with the supplements I sent him in 2014 and recently, then I can help with yours.  Bloody man he is.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Amaterasu on May 29, 2017, 08:07:06 pm
How do you treat your various illnesses? That must be difficult in your situation.

I take cat's claw for the Lyme - blessed are friends for providing!  I endure the pain, mostly, and take fish oil for the rest.  I do not like pharmaceuticals - I watched My mom, who had rheumatoid arthritis, chase side effects until She was taking a HUGE number of things.  It killed Her. 
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Amaterasu on May 29, 2017, 08:08:27 pm
That is deplorable, there should be agencies around the States that could or should help you with the state your in.

Big friggin thumbs down.

I have been applying for disability for a decade now.  I keep being turned down.  Gotta love the US of A!
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Amaterasu on May 29, 2017, 08:10:01 pm
My place is sold, and the one that I am after is double story with a unit underneath; if you lived down here, you could have occupied that unit.

And I would have got the right supplements for your ails.

I mean if I could get friggin John Stormm out of ketoacidosis with the supplements I sent him in 2014 and recently, then I can help with yours.  Bloody man he is.

Oh, that is so sweet, biggles!  I'm guessing that it's a wee bit too far (and over water!) to hitchhike...  [hugs!!!]
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: biggles on May 29, 2017, 08:12:46 pm
I'm in the southern most part of Victoria, Australia. lol.

Soon to be in the southern highlands of Victoria, Australia.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: robomont on May 29, 2017, 08:25:49 pm
I served the public for 30 years. In doing so I destroyed my personal life and then my health.

Is that not enough?
ive built over 100 cellphone and microwave towers around the usa that have aided in the stripping of americas privacy and sanity.i recieve no retirement or pension from it nor do i get a cheerful parade at christmas for my tainted efforts.i fight it everyday to inform the public of the beast i so mistakenly aided and abetted in the usa destruction.its the best i can do from my cell i call four property lines.my safe space or was until last thursday when a cop pointed a gun in my face for backing up to avoid him.then being arrested/detained while in my yard.
i shall march forward unimpeded in my struggle with karma!
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Irene on May 29, 2017, 08:28:10 pm
ive built over 100 cellphone and microwave towers around the usa that have aided in the stripping of americas privacy and sanity.i recieve no retirement or pension from it nor do i get a cheerful parade at christmas for my tainted efforts.i fight it everyday to inform the public of the beast i so mistakenly aided and abetted in the usa destruction.its the best i can do from my cell i call four property lines.my safe space or was until last thursday when a cop pointed a gun in my face for backing up to avoid him.then being arrested/detained while in my yard.
i shall march forward unimpeded in my struggle with karma!

We don't point a gun in your face for no reason. What really happened?
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 29, 2017, 08:55:05 pm
Quote
Ugh I could write a 1000 word reply but not one letter would stick.

Greetings:

How about a couple hundred and let me be the judge of what would stick.

This is a discussion forum, not a witch hunt and I would like to see what you got.

Thank you for your tome, consideration and participation.

With great respect,
thorfourwinds
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: robomont on May 30, 2017, 01:26:25 am
thankyou irene for asking,
got 5 bucks for neilson rating.wife says go to store get two liter and candy bar.go down road,see cop car either stopped or creepin down my lonesome county road.so i creep .follow him to stop sign.he illegally uses blinker.100ft is law.watched him creep another eigth mile and pull over barely off road.i was turned at sign and about 20 feet past.he waved like he wanted me up there seated in car.just a wave by or come up wave.i backed up and drove home.got 100ft inside of circle thickly wooded drive.saw red and blue flash from side mirror.couldnt see car but i knew it was one.pulled up another 100ft.to park in driveway.more room for him too.big open spot in front of my house door.opened door with wallet in hand.looked up,gun,yelling,mean stare.put hands on roof,while sitting.put wallet on roof,handcuffed.interrogated and car searched.got ticket for driving backwards,then let go.im gettin real mad as i write this.real mad.more of what ive been preachin on here for over a year.i dress nice for the mortician,when he comes to pick me up.ive gotten about ten fired or whatever excuse,they gone,in the last twelve months!
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: robomont on May 30, 2017, 01:36:24 am
he had 15 years on force,after i let go ,i convo with him.i told my wife to get on net and let them know i was arrested.my buddies at fbi.so then i told him basically hes history,in a nice polite unassuming way.i told him i could get a restraining order against them and he said then i would be above the law.i just looked and smiled.......as i left,i told him AI will have no mercy on any of us including the police.he laughed.
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Amaterasu on May 30, 2017, 08:22:47 am
I'm in the southern most part of Victoria, Australia. lol.

Soon to be in the southern highlands of Victoria, Australia.

Yeah...  Don't think I can make it anytime soon!  Thank You for thinking of Me, biggles!
Title: Re: History Is Being Made Today
Post by: Irene on May 30, 2017, 12:34:00 pm
he had 15 years on force,after i let go ,i convo with him.i told my wife to get on net and let them know i was arrested.my buddies at fbi.so then i told him basically hes history,in a nice polite unassuming way.i told him i could get a restraining order against them and he said then i would be above the law.i just looked and smiled.......as i left,i told him AI will have no mercy on any of us including the police.he laughed.

 ::)