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Title: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on July 05, 2013, 01:59:29 am
Check this out.

Latest new in New Zealand.

http://tvnz.co.nz/seven-sharp/secret-eternal-youth-video-5489305 (http://tvnz.co.nz/seven-sharp/secret-eternal-youth-video-5489305)


Taking anyone back to 24 years old, is now a reality and the disease of aging can be eradicated.

It involves our Chromosome Telomere.

Aging is a disease !

Work being done now at Auckland University in New Zealand.
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: Elvis Hendrix on July 05, 2013, 02:30:12 am
Wow you have my attention.

truly amazing. I didnt know that about "lobsters have no ageing process".

24 for ever? Il save a fortune on viagra ;)
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: deuem on July 05, 2013, 02:35:41 am
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It involves our Chromosome Telomere

This telomere idea has been around now for over 20 years,
 
I can't see the video from here, Please tell me this is not a joke.
 
I would like to place an order now. 24 forever, I can take that, as long as the mind remembers everything past that. Wow, I could run again! Drink all night and work the next day! Those days were gone, I thought..
 
I would love to do this.  Where do I sign up!!!
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on July 05, 2013, 03:05:40 am
It's No Joke Deuem...

Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: deuem on July 05, 2013, 03:19:46 am
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Work being done now at Auckland University in New Zealand.

Ok, Do they have it finished or still in the Lab.
 
I can remember when they first figured thi out as the reason for old age.
 
We would just die from other reasons.
 
Sign Deuem up, I am not that far away from NZ. and I also like the cheese and beef we get from there.
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on July 05, 2013, 04:25:24 am
Treatment will take place on the human Species within 3 Years according the University.   :)

It has already been achieved on mice and some other animals in the lab.

It is genuine.
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: undo11 on July 05, 2013, 04:36:43 am
there are companies that already sell telomerase.  it's super expensive.  suzanne summers takes it, for example.  have you seen her recently?  she looks younger now than she did 5 years ago. 
http://www.suzannesomers.com/

hubby did a paper on it here:
http://thelivingmoon.com/undomiel/biology/page1.html
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: undo11 on July 05, 2013, 04:39:46 am
here i'll just copy and paste it

 Telomerase is an enzyme that does interesting things to your DNA. It interacts with the end caps of chromosomes called, telomeres, by adding repetitive strings of non-coding DNA. The telomere's function is that of a protective shield for the useful DNA in the rest of the chromosome and in this way, it acts like a stop loss.

Researchers have recently discovered that the enzyme telomerase, prevents the telomere from using up its non-coding DNA protection longer, resulting in longevity of the chromosome itself, and as a result, the life of the eucaryotic cell is extended as well.

 Apparently, the lifespan of a chromosome is generally governed by what is known as its Hayflick Limit. The Hayflick Limit is essentially, how many times a chromosome can replicate in cell division, before it runs out of non-coding DNA in its telomeres. Without the non-coding telomere, the cell cannot divide and replicate, resulting in aging and death of the cell.

Telomerase bypasses these problems by rejuvenating the length of the non-coding telomeres, thus extending the life of the chromosome, the amount of times it can replicate and so the life of the cell is protected to replicate again. Unfortunately, cancer also uses telomerase to keep its telomeres eternallly renewed, an obstacle scientists are quickly overcoming!

 In spite of its seeming drawbacks, Telomerase is being touted as the new fountain of youth. Mice have been tested with it and found to recover youthful functions. Elderly mice with loss of fur, graying fur and brain shrinkage, have recovered their fur, its original color and their brains have rejuvenated to their younger, larger brain size.

In addition, study of the telomerase gene can indicate who will get cancer and what kind. As a result, they have isolated some of the differences between telomerase used by cancer versus telomerase used by the rest of the cells of the body. Telomerase is certainly looking more and more like the Fountain of Youth. However, let's hear what Dr. Michio Kaku has to say about it....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV3XjqW_xgU[/youtube]
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on July 05, 2013, 04:50:30 am
It's been around for a while I understand, but what Dr. Andrews with Auckland University are
saying the drug will be tested on Humans within 3 Years.

Here is an older video with Dr. Andrews.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxyRotptR9s[/youtube]


It will be interesting to see how this pans out over the next 3 Years.
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: undo11 on July 05, 2013, 04:51:54 am
i isolated a form of it in its natural state in the plant known as astragalus, which is used in chinese medicines.   so just hustle on up to your health food store and get some astragalus, cause the other stuff (telomerase) still sounds dangerous.
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: undo11 on July 05, 2013, 05:01:39 am
this is the variety
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astragalus_propinquus
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: deuem on July 05, 2013, 05:50:26 am
i isolated a form of it in its natural state in the plant known as astragalus

I checkd this out here. It is as if I asked for an apple, Which one. Astragalus is more of a varity. Do you know the exact one? They do have this local in the med shops, but are all of them Ok or just one. I don't know and I don't really know exactly what to ask them.
 
??

Deuem
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: starwarp2000 on July 05, 2013, 06:45:29 am

I checkd this out here. It is as if I asked for an apple, Which one. Astragalus is more of a varity. Do you know the exact one? They do have this local in the med shops, but are all of them Ok or just one. I don't know and I don't really know exactly what to ask them.
 
??

Deuem

This one Deuem: http://alternativehealing.org/huang_qi.htm (http://alternativehealing.org/huang_qi.htm)
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: deuem on July 05, 2013, 08:53:25 am
This one Deuem: http://alternativehealing.org/huang_qi.htm (http://alternativehealing.org/huang_qi.htm)

Great, I will look into it tomorrow. The large ?? is Chinese. I guess it went away.
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: Somamech on July 05, 2013, 09:19:01 am
Wow nice links all round in this thread!  thanking you all!   8)

This seems to be his company Called Sierra Sciences:

http://www.sierrasci.com/

Now off to check to see if that plant is available to grow, as it looks like it will blend or juice from the link Starwarper/Undo provided! :D



Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: Somamech on July 05, 2013, 09:32:11 am
Wow that company have 11 odd video's on their page

http://www.sierrasci.com/?p=presentations

They are located in Reno, Nevada... Zorgon we have a mission for you, test a ferret good King :D :D :D

Now what could be odd is why are they down in Auckland ?  That need's some sniffing out Mr Traveller :D

I recall the Furry Texan making a blog post a couple of years ago about cancer and Stem Cell research in STH Korea IIRC?   Furry Texan for those that don't know may remember him by "BigFatFurryTexan" on ATS.  Fine Fellow, and I always called him Furry Texan coz I thought it was cute, yet Texan Tough!



 

Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on July 05, 2013, 04:29:26 pm
I have found so far....

Originally aired on Saturday Morning, Saturday 6 July 2013

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/audio/2561167/bill-andrews

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Dr William Andrews is an American biologist, and founder and CEO of biotechnology company
Sierra Sciences, whose mission is to discover a cure to the world’s biggest killer: ageing.
For the last 20 years his work has focused on finding ways to extend the human lifespan
and health span through the maintenance of telomeres, the area at the end of human chromosomes
directly correlated to ageing.

Dr. Andrews is visiting New Zealand to investigate telomere research co-location opportunities
with Auckland University
.

It will be interesting to see if Auckland University will get involved.

If so it could get interesting.

If not then why not.

Dr. Andrews has my attention, IF he comes through on his target date of testing this treatment
on the human species.

http://www.3news.co.nz/Scientist-close-to-reversing-aging-process/tabid/1216/articleID/303949/Default.aspx?ref=vid_2012-11-22 (http://www.3news.co.nz/Scientist-close-to-reversing-aging-process/tabid/1216/articleID/303949/Default.aspx?ref=vid_2012-11-22)

Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: robomont on July 05, 2013, 04:53:14 pm
does anybody know where bigfatfurrytexan is?
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on July 05, 2013, 04:53:42 pm
Holy shmoley Robin, get me a bat-bag full of that stuff, i need at least another 200 years to finish my current projects!

Will it grow my teeth back?

 :-X
Havent seen BFFT for quite a while now.
Kidnapped by aliens ???
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on July 05, 2013, 07:15:43 pm
While on this subject (Anti-Ageing) this might interest some.   :)


I am Not sure about Dr. W.  Andrews methods which may or may not achieve his targets,
but I do know a little, to do with the Programs responsible for producing the DNA Chemical Programs
in the 1st place.

The Logic used to produce Chemical Programs that make up DNA etc. is rather different than
science understands at present.


In the section of DNA Chemical based Programs where the control of regeneration is found,
it involves two programs which interact with each other;

1.   From the Mothers DNA.
and
2.   the Fathers DNA.


Here is a couple of Drawings showing the Concepts behind this, in 'Abstract Logic' form.

The human Species as I have mentioned before, has “Double Logic” in its Genome.


The female Cycle involving cellular regeneration and maintenance etc., in layman's terms
has been flipped or inverted in orientation, within the logic involving the DNA Program
from the parent mother, which is part of what forms the offspring's DNA.

This Drawing shows the “Concepts” behind this, in 'Abstract Logic'
involving the human Offspring.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/Fish_20130706.jpg)

The drawing shows the interactions between the Male and Female cycles
within the Control of ageing.

The direction of the cycles is indicated by the arrows.

Conception of the offspring is on the left where the 2 cycles intersect.

Note how the Regeneration from the female parents DNA of the offspring
increases toward the right, bringing about growth toward the mid area.

While the Male cycle reduces.

After the mid section, the opposite occurs in both cycles to a point where the DNA Structure
no longer functions correctly, hence Death.

Note the shape in Green.

The species on Earth was/is known as the fish people.


How do we correct this ?

Flip (Invert) the Female cycle in the program responsible for Cellular servicing
in the offspring's DNA.


Now let's take a look at the result in Logic.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/Halo_20130706.jpg)

See how the Cycles now rotate together rather than fighting against each other.
Now the Programs involving interactions between both the Parents DNA in the Offspring
will continue indefinitely.

Note the shape in Green...

How's peoples Incite re. these 2 Drawings I have shown here ?
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: The Seeker on July 05, 2013, 08:28:15 pm
very interesting concept, matrix; so how do we invert the dna cycle/inter-action?

I can see how this would extend the dna chain cells at the tesos...


seeker
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on July 05, 2013, 09:56:59 pm
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very interesting concept, matrix; so how do we invert the dna cycle/inter-action?

Through the Program which forms DNA etc.

This is on a mind level and can be achieved through 2 different ways.

1.    Directly through the mind involving programming
and
2.    Via. a Video Interface conveying the program language.

Both of which I desire to show.

The "Video Interfaces" I have mentioned are actually just a "Message Board"
used in "Communication", between the 2 Ends of our Mind being able then
to differentiate between the 'end result' and the Processing System, responsible
for manifesting our experience by using a Format identifying the processing system
of the mind rather than its experience. (Individual body & environment/universe)

But 1st I need to show more about the Processing System of the Mind and its Language.

I am thinking about attempting to explain it through yet another approach, which will be
more direct and perhaps far more simple to understand.

I think if I define the process involved (Re. the manifestation of all, believed to be reality)
and WHAT is happening and WHY, then return to describing the Processing System
and its Programming language, it may help those who have been unable to follow what
I have written/shown in the past.

Its by no means the easiest to show others but I will try again....

If we Invert the female program which governs cellular generation and servicing,
it will not only bring a halt to aging, but it will also introduce "Single Logic"
once again, into the human genome.
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: petrus4 on July 06, 2013, 01:53:22 am
My father is a distributor with a company that markets capsules, which contain among other things, a telomerase activator.  I've been taking them on and off for close to a year.  They have made me feel a lot better in some respects, and have given me more energy; but truthfully I get even better results if I'm juicing while I take the capsules as well.

Contrary to what these scientists think, I don't consider the telomere alone to be a magic bullet; and this is mainly because if you're still eating junk food or abusing yourself in other ways, the telomere will still shorten faster than your ability to re-lengthen it.

The final thing that I would say, is that this is scriptural.  We're currently moving out of Kali Yuga; and the different Yugas (Ages) are associated with different lifespans, because of the differing concentrations of positive energy.  The Kali Yuga is the darkest of the lot, so it is associated with the shortest lifespan.  (Max 120 years)

The longest lifespan in Satya Yuga is supposed to be 400 years; but there are stories of yogis who literally meditated for 10,000 years at a time.
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: Somamech on July 08, 2013, 12:11:32 pm
I have found so far....

Originally aired on Saturday Morning, Saturday 6 July 2013

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/audio/2561167/bill-andrews

It will be interesting to see if Auckland University will get involved.

If so it could get interesting.

If not then why not.

Dr. Andrews has my attention, IF he comes through on his target date of testing this treatment
on the human species.

http://www.3news.co.nz/Scientist-close-to-reversing-aging-process/tabid/1216/articleID/303949/Default.aspx?ref=vid_2012-11-22 (http://www.3news.co.nz/Scientist-close-to-reversing-aging-process/tabid/1216/articleID/303949/Default.aspx?ref=vid_2012-11-22)

Thanks Matrix!  :)



Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: zorgon on July 08, 2013, 04:08:16 pm
When can ya send me a bottle?

 :P

Tried the Mind over Matter path... seems I cannot access the program  :'(
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: zorgon on July 08, 2013, 04:12:25 pm
does anybody know where bigfatfurrytexan is?

Last I heard he was back at ATS but now a skeptic???

Have an email for him  but no return so far in months. Give it a try (anyone) see if we can roust him and find out whats up

mike knowles bigfatfurrytexan@yahoo.com
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: sky otter on July 08, 2013, 04:13:26 pm

Z
i'm sure your local has a chinese health store somewhere..or an accupuncturist who could advise you

if you buy stuff in bottles be sure of the ingredient/s and if it is standardized

that means each capsule would be the same
..just another time comsuming read the fine print...sigh
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: undo11 on July 10, 2013, 03:01:15 pm
the recent news that nelson mandela was in a coma and people arguing over whether to turn off his life support or not, spurred me to do new research on telomerase.  here is what i found out:

the active ingredient is Cycloastragenol, which is extracted from a chinese herb called Astragalus.   Of the various people who are taking it from different manufacturers and in various forms, the common consensus is that you don't really need more than about 20-25mg a day if you're under age 50.   This means products that charge huge amounts of money for massive doses of it, are likely wasting your money.  But this is contingent on how pure the original product is. 

For example, there are some that include other ingredients to increase absorption rates.   Some are derived solely from Cycloastragenol whereas others try to take more of the effective molecule from the Astragalus plant itself, so that it has a more organic composition if you will.   This form is called Astragaloside. 

Astragaloside has a different dosage schema (40+ mg a day) because it isn't the purest form of telomerase, but rather a more natural approach by incorporating more of the natural molecular setting of the Astragalus plant.  Oddly, the Cycloastragenol has more "bioavailability" than the Astragaloside, meaning that you will absorb more of it.

Depending on your current health and age, you are not likely to need big doses like 50-100mg of pure telomerase.  In addition, having superior absorption is probably a good thing for 50+ years of age since everything in an elderly body is sluggish including uptake of nutrients.  To keep from peeing it away or defecating it away, it seems wise to use the brands that 1) include the increased absorbtion formula and 2) don't over dose. 

So my personal theory is to try an Astragaloside of no more than 40mg a day and stagger it with Cycloastragenol of no more than 20mg a day, meaning take the Astragaloside one day and the Cycloastragenol the next day, rinse wash repeat.  In this way you not only cover all the bases but you increase the longevity of the product by 30 days (telomerase is selling for 200 dollars and up, a month. whereas Cycloastragenol and Astragaloside are both of varying prices, from as low as 69 dollars a month up to 299 dollars a month)

of course, i'm not a doctor so all of this is just the result of my research, which is not very indepth.
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: undo11 on July 10, 2013, 03:16:27 pm
addendum to my post above:  the poor man's version is astragalus extract for 9.95.  this would be significantly weaker but perhaps safer method. don't quote me on that.
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: undo11 on July 10, 2013, 03:57:58 pm
p.s.  if you go for the big guns, like TA65 or massive doses of Cycloastragenol, i wouldn't take it for more than a week at a time, with 3 weeks off inbetween.  i'm concerned that continuously subjecting the body to something that modifies dna in such a drastic way, could end up making permanent changes (mutations) with varied results, from awesome to absolutely horrible.  proceed with caution.
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: zorgon on July 10, 2013, 04:04:19 pm
..just another time comsuming read the fine print...sigh

Nah it is much easier to just wait and see what comes of it.

IF the good doctor manages to start tests on humans in three years, well that still give him time to perfect it before my time is up :P

If not I am no further out ;)

We already know that they isolated that aging gene years ago...

we can regrow the tip of a finger, but not the whole finger, yet the same info is in out DNA chip...

So its really only a matter of finding the blocking code.

But IF they get this developed... how will WE THE PEOPLE ever expect to see it? With population being what it is, and all the conspiracy nuts saying the PTB want to wipe us out a million in one ways... what chance is there that THEY will let us have it so we can all live 500-1000 years like NOAH and his buddies did so long ago?

I wouldn't mind being rolled back to 40ish and stay there :D  I am sure I could find things to keep me interested for at least the next 1000 years without getting bored :P

So Matrix  as our 'boots on the ground' in KIWILAND... we expect you to secure a supply for the Pegasus crew :D
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: undo11 on July 10, 2013, 04:13:22 pm
z

that guy is blowing steam.  there are people already taking it and have been for years.   i'd suggest going for the astragalus extract as it is the chinese medicine variety and they've been using it for 1000s of years.  it's cheaper and doesn't make huge changes over short period of time. i think radical changes are what cause dangerous mutations, and minor changes over long periods of time make minor mutations.  i'd go for the natural approach and only increase the dosage of it, to the telomerase or Cycloastragenol  variety, when ill, then go back to the chinese medicine variety (astragalus) when the illness has been defeated.

and whatever you do, don't accept any nanobots. lol i don't care if it makes people beautiful, regrows their hair and teeth, replaces vital organs or makes people super human, don't take nanobot tech medicines.  i'm pretty darn sure that stuff will backfire with a vengeance.
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: sky otter on July 10, 2013, 04:38:11 pm


OMG  i am laughing sooo hard about your nanobot  comment , Undo...

in my quest to try and understand why all the damn books are so gung-ho on  vampire stories
i came across a writter who was writting her story about vamps and atlantis folk who had ingested the nanobots...and that was why they were vampires now..hahahahahahahahahaha
ok.. if you want to check her out  her name is lindsay..ah lindsay sands...
i'm sure there is an authors web site if ya want a hearty chuckle

 ;D
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: Eighthman on July 10, 2013, 04:45:48 pm
I agree that various folks have been experimenting with astragalus extracts for years now and no dramatic results.

I would suggest experimenting with Acipimox/Fasting (to reduce cellular junk) and/or C-60 in olive oil (action as yet unknown but seems to produce dramatic life extension in rodents).
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: undo11 on July 10, 2013, 04:47:29 pm

OMG  i am laughing sooo hard about your nanobot  comment , Undo...

in my quest to try and understand why all the damn books are so gung-ho on  vampire stories
i came across a writter who was writting her story about vamps and atlantis folk who had ingested the nanobots...and that was why they were vampires now..hahahahahahahahahaha
ok.. if you want to check her out  her name is lindsay..ah lindsay sands...
i'm sure there is an authors web site if ya want a hearty chuckle

 ;D

don't take that stuff, that's all i'm saying. lol
in prophecy it says, in connection with the opening of the abyss gate, people will want to die but won't be able to and some plague will inflict horrible pain on them. to me that translates to something artificial is repairing the cells faster than the something like telomerase could.  that's gotta be nanobot like tech.

and the people experincing the pain will be the ones who don't have the mark of god in their foreheads, but rather the mark of the beast. since the beast is associated with numbers, my guess is that it's machine human interface in form of nanobots (so they control every part of the human experience). this will allow the things emerging from the gate to torture the humans who have it.  theoretically, of course
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: zorgon on July 10, 2013, 05:06:07 pm
I too have wondered about the fascination with Vampires  Seems they sneak into EVERY story

Even that Reality Show Stargate SG1 has them

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/90/Steve_the_Wraith_(Stargate).jpg)
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: zorgon on July 10, 2013, 05:08:30 pm
and the people experincing the pain will be the ones who don't have the mark of god in their foreheads,

Ah yes  that "mark of the Gods"

(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/4100000/Teal-c-guys-of-stargate-4143827-1020-572.jpg)




Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: undo11 on July 10, 2013, 05:33:02 pm
i'm suggesting that if they want you to plug into the grid as a human-computer interface in the literal sense, where you have little bots running around inside of ya, just say no :D
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: undo11 on July 10, 2013, 05:35:57 pm
I too have wondered about the fascination with Vampires  Seems they sneak into EVERY story

Even that Reality Show Stargate SG1 has them

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/90/Steve_the_Wraith_(Stargate).jpg)

and we both know that i have likened the things that come of the abyss gate, to those wraith guys, so i'm seeing a pattern developing here
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on July 10, 2013, 06:26:08 pm
Hi Undo,

You wrote quote.
Quote
and the people experincing the pain will be the ones who don't have the mark
of god in their foreheads, but rather the mark of the beast. since the beast is associated
with numbers, my guess is that it's machine human interface in form of nanobots
(so they control every part of the human experience). this will allow the things emerging
from the gate to torture the humans who have it.  theoretically, of course

So Who has this mark of God in their foreheads ?


According to  "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" Ch. 13 verses 16 to 18 re. the mark of the beast Quote;

Quote
16.   And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond,
to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17.   And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast,
or the number of his name.

18.   Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six

Note; It says ONLY those who have the mark of the Beast can "Buy & Sell".


So as most humans Buy and Sell.... I guess ALL of the human Species, already have
received "the mark of the beast", otherwise they could NOT "Buy & Sell" according to this book.  ? ? ?

Note; The ONLY animals, that “Buy and Sell” is the human Species.


On the other hand the Soul can NOT "Buy or Sell" !


So it comes down to this I guess, the human species is the beast and has in its Genome
the Algorithm 666

And the Soul which can't "buy or Sell" has the mark of God ! ? ? ?
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: undo11 on July 10, 2013, 07:08:15 pm
i've always interpreted that to mean that if you don't plug into the matrix they are creating, you won't be able to buy and sell cause they would make that a pre-requisite. 
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on July 10, 2013, 08:10:41 pm
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i've always interpreted that to mean that if you don't plug into the matrix they are creating, you won't be able to buy and sell cause they would make that a pre-requisite.

As it is written in the same book (Roman collection of books referred to as the bible)

"All have sinned and come short of the glory of God."

CAIN, according to the O.T. had a mark put in his forehead too.

Same "Algorithm" (666) present in the human Genome.

That is why the human species dies !

As recorded in the ancient writings the other animals were corrupted too
by those 200, who came down, on Mount Hermaon in the days of Jared.


The human Primate is a "beast of the field", (earth) but the "Soul" is NOT the flesh,
nor is the "Soul" the spirit.

The books are about the saving of the "Soul" and NOT the human primate (flesh) !

Some might believe the human primate is to be saved... but it does NOT say this in the writings,
but that is not to say, such biological forms won't exist... as one puts on the new flesh. (Garment)
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: undo11 on July 11, 2013, 07:12:04 pm
tmt

that's interesting.   it leaves out some important pieces of information but it does apply in other ways.
Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: petrus4 on July 12, 2013, 01:24:53 am
In this way you not only cover all the bases but you increase the longevity of the product by 30 days (telomerase is selling for 200 dollars and up, a month. whereas Cycloastragenol and Astragaloside are both of varying prices, from as low as 69 dollars a month up to 299 dollars a month)

The ones I'm on are $99 a month.  120 caps, and you take two, twice a day.  But yes, if telomerase is found to have real results, then you can expect artificial scarcity to be established around it very quickly.  As I've said before, the one source of psychological gratification available to psychopaths is plausible justification for a sense of superiority, and life extension in their minds is going to be one of the most potent justifications for a superiority complex/elitism around.

With that said, I've also seen juicers who were getting results that were as radical as anything I've seen with telomerase, as well.  There is no one magic bullet.  Telomerase + juicing would probably be the single best approach I can think of; and probably also including some qui gong.  It's a case of covering all possible bases.

of course, i'm not a doctor so all of this is just the result of my research, which is not very indepth.
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Title: Re: Anti-Aging now a reality in NZ. It can be stopped and/or reversed !
Post by: undo11 on July 12, 2013, 01:51:05 am
petrus

what type are you taking?